RE: iTunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And even if you access your Apple account from a PC you can choose to “trust” 
the PC or browser the first time you use it and afterwards it will not ask for 
2-factor authentication on that computer/browser combination.
A lot of people hate 2-factor authentication, but as Anna said, it’s definitely 
the way to go with respect to security in today’s world of ransomware attacks 
and such.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:49 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.
I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?
Vicki
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
Vicki
- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.
I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.
Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
pho

Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I 
> use my phone?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
>> than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. >> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
>>> using 2 factor authentication on my phone.
>>>  
>>> I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Vicki W.
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
>>>> that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor 
>>>> authentication.
>>>> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
>>>> or my computer from my phone?
>>>> Vicki
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
>>>>> text messages.
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Anna Dresner
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
>>>>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages 
>>>>> would be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, 
>>>>> though.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. >>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
>>>>>> way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, 
>>>>>> but it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
>>>>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
>>>>>>> running an older operating system.
>>>>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>>>>>>> either way, the ap

Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.


  Best,
  Anna








On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

  Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

  I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
or my computer from my phone?

  Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
text messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly 
the same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would 
be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna





  On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

  Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With 
the way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

  Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: Anna Dresner
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older 
operating system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
running an older operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, 
and either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make 
sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 
hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's 
also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





  On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  
wrote:

  I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

  First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

  Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad 
II or older phone?

  Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer 
phone?

  The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I 
will be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
phone. 

  I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS 
versions with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones 
with IOS 13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older 
IPad or phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or 
the phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

  Hope this all makes sense.

  Thanks.

  Vicki


  -- 
 

Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
> using 2 factor authentication on my phone.
>  
> I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Vicki W.
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>  
>> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that 
>> it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.
>>  
>> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or 
>> my computer from my phone?
>>  
>> Vicki
>>  
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>  
>>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
>>> messages.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>> Anna Dresner
>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>  
>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>  
>>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
>>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would 
>>> be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.
>>>  
>>> Best,
>>> Anna
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. >>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
>>>> I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
>>>> it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>>>>  
>>>> Vicki
>>>>  
>>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>  
>>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
>>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
>>>>> running an older operating system.
>>>>>  
>>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>>>>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>>>>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, 
>>>>> and make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen 
>>>>> automatically every 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected 
>>>>> to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back 
>>>>> up the device at any time.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
>>>>> backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. >>

Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that 
it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

   

  I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or 
my computer from my phone?

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM

    Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

 

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
    Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

 

Hi Vicki,

 

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be 
backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

  On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

   

  Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

   

  Vicki

   

- Original Message - 

From: Anna Dresner

To: VIPhone Mailing List

Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

 

Hi Vicki,

 

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

 

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

 

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

 

 

  On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

   

  I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

   

  First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

   

  Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II 
or older phone?

   

  Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

   

  The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will 
be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

   

  I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

   

  Hope this all makes sense.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Vicki

   

   

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RE: ITunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

As I pointed out in another message, I cannot select to back up messages unless 
I have 2 factor authentication set up, which I don't and right now, I don't 
want to.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Feliciano Godoy 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:46 PM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Hi,

  Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

   

  Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

   

  Feliciano 

   

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  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

   

  Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   

   

On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

 

Vicki

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Anna Dresner

  To: VIPhone Mailing List

  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

   

  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

   

  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   

   

On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini 
IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

 

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

 

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

 

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

 

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

 

Hope this all makes sense.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

 

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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?

Vicki
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
  Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


  Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
  Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   





On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way 
I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

 

Vicki

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Anna Dresner

  To: VIPhone Mailing List

  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM

      Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

   

  Hi Vicki,

   

  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
older operating system.

   

  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, 
choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure 
iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or 
so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a 
Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

   

  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

   

  Best,

  Anna

   

   

   





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

 

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini 
IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

 

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

 

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

 

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

 

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 
13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone 
you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

 

Hope this all makes sense.

 

Thanks.

 

Vicki

 

 

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RE: ITunes Backups

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Hi,
Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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RE: ITunes Backups

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

- Original Message -
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
To: VIPhone Mailing List<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
> have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
> understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
>> to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an 
>> older operating system.
>> 
>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and 
>> make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 
>> 24 hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. 
>> There's also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any 
>> time.
>> 
>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
>> It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. >> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
>>> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond 
>>> IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>>>  
>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
>>> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>>>  
>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
>>> older phone?
>>>  
>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>>>  
>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
>>> currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
>>> phone. 
>>>  
>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
>>> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
>>> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
>>> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
>>> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>>>  
>>> Hope this all makes sense.
>>>  
>>> Thanks.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
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Re: ITunes Backups

[Vicki W.]

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system 
to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.


  I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.


  Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. 
It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.


  Best,
  Anna








On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or 
older phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain 
which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently 
have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How 
is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, 
but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki



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RE: ITunes Backups

[Robert Wright]

Vicki,the main difference between backing up to iTunes and backing up to iCloud 
is that when backing up to iCloud you can set up a new device from any wi-fi. 
Whereas, with iTunes you must be at your PC.

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From: Anna Dresner
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 5:54 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
 
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
 
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?
 
Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
 
The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
 
I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.
 
Hope this all makes sense.
 
Thanks.
 
Vicki
 

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Re: ITunes Backups

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:
> 
> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD 
> II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 
> 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>  
> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 
> and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>  
> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
> phone?
>  
> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>  
> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
> to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
> version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have 
> the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone. 
>  
> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with 
> older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. 
> How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or 
> phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the 
> phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.
>  
> Hope this all makes sense.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Vicki
>  
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Re: ITunes backups

[Alan Paganelli]

When a new backup is made, the previous one is deleted or at least that's how 
it is on my computer.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: marie baisez 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:19 PM
  Subject: ITunes backups


  When I do a backup of my IPod on my computer with ITunes, does it delete the 
previous one already stored there? If not, there must be lots of them 
somewhere, what is their name and file extension? where are they stored? Are 
they classified chronologically? If they are easy to find, is it ok to delete 
them and free some space on my hard drive?
  Would appreciate any comment/answers on this matter.
  Thanks in advance.
  All the best to all.
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Re: ITunes backups

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Marie,

To find a list of all your backups, open iTunes, and press Command-Comma on a 
Mac or Control-Comma in Windows to bring up Preferences. This is a multi-page 
dialog box. Choose Devices. All your backups will be listed there. To delete a 
backup, arrow to it and press Delete. You can select multiple backups and press 
Delete if you want to get rid of several.

HTH,
Anna



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> When I do a backup of my IPod on my computer with ITunes, does it delete the 
> previous one already stored there? If not, there must be lots of them 
> somewhere, what is their name and file extension? where are they stored? Are 
> they classified chronologically? If they are easy to find, is it ok to delete 
> them and free some space on my hard drive?
> Would appreciate any comment/answers on this matter.
> Thanks in advance.
> All the best to all.
> Marie
> 
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Re: Itunes backups on a windows pc

[Robert Fenton]

Hello: 

Generally speaking, I am not in favor of single ear piece methods for assessing 
audio while walking. If the traffic noise is on the same side as the ear piece, 
it can be difficult to hear your GPS or whatever other device you are listening 
to. For me, I prefer the aftershocks headphones which you can hear with both 
ears without having either ear covered. They are an even better solution now 
that a blue tooth version is available. 

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On 2013-05-17, at 10:15 PM, "Jon Pierson"  wrote:

> Hi Robert,
> You will have to "unhide" a hidden folder, more information can be found at
> the below link:
> 
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3481349?start=0&tstart=0
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
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> Subject: Itunes backups on a windows pc
> 
> 
> Hello everybody: 
> 
> Where are Itunes backups stored on a windows pc under windows seven? I
> appear to have several backups for the same device stored in my machine and
> I need to remove the duplicates because I am running out of space. 
> 
> Thanks for your help. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Fenton
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Re: Itunes backups on a windows pc

[Robert Fenton]

Perfect, that is helpful too. Thanks.

Bob Fenton

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> You will have to "unhide" a hidden folder, more information can be found at
> the below link:
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> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Robert Fenton
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:08 PM
> To: Viphone
> Subject: Itunes backups on a windows pc
> 
> 
> Hello everybody: 
> 
> Where are Itunes backups stored on a windows pc under windows seven? I
> appear to have several backups for the same device stored in my machine and
> I need to remove the duplicates because I am running out of space. 
> 
> Thanks for your help. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Fenton
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Re: Itunes backups on a windows pc

[Robert Fenton]

Yes, good point. I forgot all about that. Thank you.

Bob Fenton

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On 2013-05-17, at 10:15 PM, Ricardo Walker  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> you can delete backups from within iTunes.  Go to preferences then the device 
> tab.
> 
> hth
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> On May 18, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Robert Fenton  
> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody: 
>> 
>> Where are Itunes backups stored on a windows pc under windows seven? I 
>> appear to have several backups for the same device stored in my machine and 
>> I need to remove the duplicates because I am running out of space. 
>> 
>> Thanks for your help. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
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RE: Itunes backups on a windows pc

[Jon Pierson]

Hi Robert,
You will have to "unhide" a hidden folder, more information can be found at
the below link:

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3481349?start=0&tstart=0

Jon


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fenton
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 9:08 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Itunes backups on a windows pc


Hello everybody: 

Where are Itunes backups stored on a windows pc under windows seven? I
appear to have several backups for the same device stored in my machine and
I need to remove the duplicates because I am running out of space. 

Thanks for your help. 





Bob Fenton

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Re: Itunes backups on a windows pc

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

you can delete backups from within iTunes.  Go to preferences then the device 
tab.

hth

Ricardo Walker
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On May 18, 2013, at 12:07 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:

> 
> Hello everybody: 
> 
> Where are Itunes backups stored on a windows pc under windows seven? I appear 
> to have several backups for the same device stored in my machine and I need 
> to remove the duplicates because I am running out of space. 
> 
> Thanks for your help. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob Fenton
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