RE: screen curtain reader query

[anthonyborg001]

Thank you for your advice and your help Alan, i really appreciated. 

Regards 

 

Anthony 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: 11 May 2023 21:32
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Subject: Re: screen curtain reader query

 

Anthony, 

 

If you want to customize any of the gestures used by VoiceOver users, go to 
Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and Commands and explore the options 
available there. I like drilling down under All commands where they are grouped 
by category with their existing settings indicated. You can undo and redo as 
desired but be cautious about changing anything that is often quoted by other 
users or you'll find yourself in a state of constant confusion. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Hi 

 

I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the 
screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. 

Any help would be appreciated. 

Thanks in advance 

 

Anthony 

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Re: screen curtain reader query

[Alan Lemly]

Anthony, If you want to customize any of the gestures used by VoiceOver users, go to Settings, Accessibility, VoiceOver, and Commands and explore the options available there. I like drilling down under All commands where they are grouped by category with their existing settings indicated. You can undo and redo as desired but be cautious about changing anything that is often quoted by other users or you'll find yourself in a state of constant confusion. Good luck. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 11, 2023, at 11:06 AM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:Hi  I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance  Anthony 



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Re: screen curtain reader query

[Jody ianuzzi]

Hello Anthony,

To toggle the screen curtain do a three finger triple tap

JODY

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> On May 11, 2023, at 12:06 PM, anthonyborg...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi
>  
> I have a first se generation and i would like to know how to toggle off the 
> screen reader curtain completely or at least how to change the jesture.
> Any help would be appreciated.
> Thanks in advance
>  
> Anthony
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RE: screen curtain

[Dennis Long]

I agree

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[chrisjudge1967]

No, as previously mentioned it's a voice over function.

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Sent: February 19, 2023 4:01 PM
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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

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Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
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Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[Malcolm Parfitt]

If VoiceOver is not running you cannot have Screen Curtain on.

Screen Curtain is only available while VoiceOver is active.

If you were able to enable Screen Curtain without VoiceOver you would be unable 
to use your device as you would have no feedback visual or audio.

You can however disable speech when VoiceOver is running, useful if you are a 
Braille user only.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Sent: 19 February 2023 20:01
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Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[michv]

Hi that is interesting so if you have voice over turned off can you stilltern 
on screen curton by doing a triple finger dubble tap?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: February 19, 2023 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Debbie is correct, screen curtain is strictly a Voiceover feature. Anybody who 
is sighted would not want to use it, after all, why would they since it would 
prevent them from seeing the screen.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 5:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: screen curtain

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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Re: screen curtain

[Lyne]

Hi Janet,
Probably more brightness... Settings, brightness, screen locked ...

Lyne

> Le 19 févr. 2023 à 08:42, Debby  a écrit :
> 
> please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen 
> curtain on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't 
> know if that makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger

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RE: screen curtain

[Debby]

Hi Janet,

I am pretty sure that "screen curtain" is a feature of Voiceover, so if she is 
sighted and not using Voiceover, "screen curtain" is not available to her.

On your second question go to settings, accessibility, Voiceover, then Rotor. 
You will have to flick down the screen many times, but eventually you will come 
to "direct touch." Double tap it and it will be on the rotor.

I hope that helps!

Debby 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2023 7:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain

please could someone tell me how a fully sighted person puts the screen curtain 
on and off.  she has her phone on lock after 30 seconds so I don't know if that 
makes a difference.  I told her to try the three finger triple tap but it 
didn't work.

one final question how do I put direct touch on the rota Janet

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RE: screen curtain query

[chrisjudge1967]

This is only so if zoom is running as well. If zoom isn’t running it’s a three 
finger tripple tap for screen curtain and a three finger double tap to mute 
speech.

 

Chris Judge

  

 

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Sent: October 8, 2022 10:21 AM
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Subject: screen curtain query

 

Hi 

 

To turn off screen curtain it is a 3 fingers quadruple tap, the 3 fingers 
triple tap it is to turn off or on the screen speech. 

Best 

 

Anthony 

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RE: screen curtain query

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, Anthony, that is incorrect information.
Tapping 4 times with 3 fingers (3-finger quadruple tap) copies whatever 
Voiceover last said to the clipboard
To turn screen curtain on or off you tap 3 times with 3 fingers (3-finger 
triple tap)
To mute or unmute speech you tap 2 times with 3 fingers (3-finger double tap). 
Keep in mind this simply mutes speech, it does not turn Voiceover off.
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Subject: screen curtain query

Hi

To turn off screen curtain it is a 3 fingers quadruple tap, the 3 fingers 
triple tap it is to turn off or on the screen speech.
Best

Anthony
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Re: screen curtain query

[Amy Johnson]

You use 3 fingers to triple tap to turn screen curtain on and off.

On 10/7/22, Afik Souffir  wrote:
> 3 fingers triple tap.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> Subject: screen curtain query
>
> Hi
>
> Can somebody explain to me which it is the simple way to turn off the screen
> curtain because i tried many times to do it by four fingers four taps and i
> didn't managed to do it.
> I also asked siri to do it for me but it can't do it either.
> I'm using se, first gen.
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
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RE: screen curtain query

[Afik Souffir]

3 fingers triple tap.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain query

Hi

Can somebody explain to me which it is the simple way to turn off the screen 
curtain because i tried many times to do it by four fingers four taps and i 
didn't managed to do it.
I also asked siri to do it for me but it can't do it either.
I'm using se, first gen.
Thanks in advance

Anthony
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Dave Jones]

 When the screen curtain is turned on, screen brightness is automatically
set to zero. This would indeed save battery life.


On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 12:05 PM Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> It's the backlighting which really uses battery power, I doubt turning on
> screen curtain would make a measurable difference in battery use.
>
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> Dear Harry & List:
>
> Did not know the Screen Curtain saved battery life. It blanks the screen
> by turning on all picture elements, making it look black. This uses battery
> power.
>
> Too save battery, , say hey Siri, make screen darkest.
> If someone sighted offers to help you with the phone, say Hey Siri make
> Screen brightest.
> Or make the screen darker or brighter in 25% increments with hey Siri make
> Screen darker or brighter.
> Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
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> Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS
> 12?
> Thanks
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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's the backlighting which really uses battery power, I doubt turning on 
screen curtain would make a measurable difference in battery use.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brian K. 
Lingard
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 12:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

Dear Harry & List:

Did not know the Screen Curtain saved battery life. It blanks the screen by 
turning on all picture elements, making it look black. This uses battery power.

Too save battery, , say hey Siri, make screen darkest.
If someone sighted offers to help you with the phone, say Hey Siri make Screen 
brightest.
Or make the screen darker or brighter in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
Screen darker or brighter.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: February 5, 2019 6:00 AM
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Subject: Screen curtain and battery?

Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
Thanks
Harry  


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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Harry & List:

Did not know the Screen Curtain saved battery life. It blanks the screen by 
turning on all picture elements, making it look black. This uses battery power.

Too save battery, , say hey Siri, make screen darkest.
If someone sighted offers to help you with the phone, say Hey Siri make Screen 
brightest.
Or make the screen darker or brighter in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
Screen darker or brighter.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.
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Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
Thanks
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

Yes, I did the same thing when my phone was new.  I couldn't figure out why 
voice over wasn't working when Siri said it was on.  It is not hard to 
accidentally double tap with three fingers instead of two.


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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I'm just so glad to know about it, because a time or two, I've gotten it off 
when doing a two-finger double tap when my phone was new. 

Best regards,

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Hi Carolyn:

I find the two finger single tap very useful, especially when someone comes 
into the room and interrupts me while I am reading something on my phone. 
Kinda like hitting the control key to stop JAWS from speaking .

I haven't used the three finger double tap to turn off speech completely, but 
am sure there are uses for it.

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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

Hi Carolyn:

I find the two finger single tap very useful, especially when someone comes 
into the room and interrupts me while I am reading something on my phone. 
Kinda like hitting the control key to stop JAWS from speaking .


I haven't used the three finger double tap to turn off speech completely, 
but am sure there are uses for it.


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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That does make sense, Hollie. I just had no idea that speech was so 
significant, had just thought it part of Voice Over. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Carolyn:

If you were reading a page on the internet and turned off voice over to stop it 
from speaking, then, when you turn it on again, it will not be in the same 
place you were before you turned it off.

Using the 'speech off' feature, voice over will start just where you left off 
on the page when you tap to start again.

Hope this makes sense.

Holly 

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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That makes sense, thanks. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Carolyn,  
People with low-vision and some normally sighted folks sometimes like to use 
speech output, but they do not need it all the time.
So, under settings, general, accessibility there is a speech section where you 
can turn on speak screen; then the phone or iPad won't talk unless you do a two 
finger swipe down from the status bar. 
This method would allow someone to have the phone read to them; without having 
to learn VoiceOver.
You can even lock the phone/iPad, and it will keep reading until you stop it.
So, it is a very good thing they are not the same.
HTH,
Richard



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any." -- Alice Walker





On Feb 10, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net 
<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> > wrote:



I know there must be some reason for having both, but I do wonder why 
it is not all-in-one - Speech and voice Over. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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    Subject: Re: Screen curtain and battery?


If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when 
touching the screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do 
anything. 
It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it 
doesn't announce things etc.
And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen 
curtain on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So, if 
dimming the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
Richard



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don't have any." -- Alice Walker





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   If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the 
screen, if you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, 
you can do a two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap 
to start it speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech altogether 
by doing a three finger double tap , then start it again the same way with a 
three finger double tap.
   
   I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will 
still be on in both cases.
   
   Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and 
'speech on' when you do the three finger double tap again.
   
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

Carolyn:

If you were reading a page on the internet and turned off voice over to stop 
it from speaking, then, when you turn it on again, it will not be in the 
same place you were before you turned it off.


Using the 'speech off' feature, voice over will start just where you left 
off on the page when you tap to start again.


Hope this makes sense.

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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Christopher Chaltain]

To pause VoiceOver while it's speaking you'd perform a two finger single 
tap. To have VoiceOver start speaking where it left off do a two finger 
single tap again.



A two finger double tap will pause the audio stream that's currently 
playing. It'll also do some other things, like answer an incoming call.



To leave VoiceOver running but to keep it from speaking, use a three 
finger double tap.. This is a toggle, and you'll hear speech off and 
speech on as speech is toggled off or on. I don't think this takes any 
significant more effort then a triple click of the home key, but it does 
require less system resources to just turn off speech then it does to 
unload and reload VoiceOver.



On 2/10/19 8:51 PM, Holly wrote:
Well, it would be time consuming to turn off and on voice over every 
time you just wanted to stop speech for a couple of seconds.    A 
single two finger single tap is quick and easy.


Holly


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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

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Well, it would be time consuming to turn off and on voice over every time 
you just wanted to stop speech for a couple of seconds.A single two 
finger single tap is quick and easy.


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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Screen curtain doesn't save any battery. With an LCD display, the entire 
display is backlit so it consumes just as much energy whether it's dark 
or not. It may be the case that the new OLED displays, at least new to 
Apple, will save some battery when dark, but since the XR, which uses an 
LCD display, has better battery life then the XS, which uses an OLED 
display, this doesn't seem to be the case, at least for now.



Screen dimming will save some battery life, and as someone recently 
pointed out on list, your iPhone will dim the screen if you have screen 
curtain on, so my first paragraph could just be an exercise in splitting 
hairs.



On 2/10/19 5:24 PM, Holly wrote:
I know the screen curtain will save some battery, although, I am not 
sure how much and if it would make a considerable difference.  I use 
screen curtain when in public and don’t want on-lookers to see what I 
am doing on my phone.  I use it mainly for privacy.

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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Devin Prater]

Yes, and even I as a VoiceOver user like speak screen, because it has its
on speed and voices control... Although sometimes the language detection is
a bit too loose... Lol. But besides that, I love using it for long web
pages and books. It even sort of pauses when it detects formatted text,
like bold or italics, at least on web pages. Ah well, not everything can be
Emacspeak quality.
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 8:20 PM Richard Turner 
wrote:

>
> Carolyn,
> People with low-vision and some normally sighted folks sometimes like to
> use speech output, but they do not need it all the time.
> So, under settings, general, accessibility there is a speech section where
> you can turn on speak screen; then the phone or iPad won't talk unless you
> do a two finger swipe down from the status bar.
> This method would allow someone to have the phone read to them; without
> having to learn VoiceOver.
> You can even lock the phone/iPad, and it will keep reading until you stop
> it.
> So, it is a very good thing they are not the same.
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
> wrote:
>
> I know there must be some reason for having both, but I do wonder why it
> is not all-in-one - Speech and voice Over.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> ] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain and battery?
>
>
> If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when touching
> the screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do
> anything.
> It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it
> doesn't announce things etc.
> And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen
> curtain on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So,
> if dimming the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
> Richard
>
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Holly  mailto:fe...@comcast.net > > wrote:
>
>
>
>If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the screen,
> if you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, you
> can do a two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap
> to start it speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech
> altogether by doing a three finger double tap , then start it again the
> same way with a three finger double tap.
>
>I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will still
> be on in both cases.
>
>Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and
> 'speech on' when you do the three finger double tap again.
>
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Richard Turner]

Carolyn,
People with low-vision and some normally sighted folks sometimes like to use 
speech output, but they do not need it all the time.
So, under settings, general, accessibility there is a speech section where you 
can turn on speak screen; then the phone or iPad won't talk unless you do a two 
finger swipe down from the status bar.
This method would allow someone to have the phone read to them; without having 
to learn VoiceOver.
You can even lock the phone/iPad, and it will keep reading until you stop it.
So, it is a very good thing they are not the same.
HTH,
Richard



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On Feb 10, 2019, at 5:56 PM, Carolyn Arnold 
<4carol...@windstream.net<mailto:4carol...@windstream.net>> wrote:

I know there must be some reason for having both, but I do wonder why it is not 
all-in-one - Speech and voice Over.

Best regards,

Carolyn


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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Subject: Re: Screen curtain and battery?


If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when touching the 
screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do anything.
It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it doesn't 
announce things etc.
And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen curtain 
on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So, if dimming 
the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
Richard



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker





On Feb 10, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Holly mailto:fe...@comcast.net> 
<mailto:fe...@comcast.net> > wrote:



   If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the screen, if 
you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, you can do a 
two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap to start it 
speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech altogether by doing a 
three finger double tap , then start it again the same way with a three finger 
double tap.

   I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will still be 
on in both cases.

   Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and 'speech 
on' when you do the three finger double tap again.

   Holly
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Devin Prater]

Turning speech off is useful for braille users, and those times where you
don't want Voiceover to say anything at all, like when using Speak Screen
to read a book or article.
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.


On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:56 PM Carolyn Arnold <4carol...@windstream.net>
wrote:

> I know there must be some reason for having both, but I do wonder why it
> is not all-in-one - Speech and voice Over.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Carolyn
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen curtain and battery?
>
>
> If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when touching
> the screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do
> anything.
> It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it
> doesn't announce things etc.
> And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen
> curtain on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So,
> if dimming the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
> Richard
>
>
>
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't
> have any." -- Alice Walker
>
>
>
>
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> On Feb 10, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Holly  fe...@comcast.net> > wrote:
>
>
>
> If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the
> screen, if you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do
> something, you can do a two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two
> finger single tap to start it speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn
> off speech altogether by doing a three finger double tap , then start it
> again the same way with a three finger double tap.
>
> I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will
> still be on in both cases.
>
> Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and
> 'speech on' when you do the three finger double tap again.
>
> Holly
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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I know there must be some reason for having both, but I do wonder why it is not 
all-in-one - Speech and voice Over. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain and battery?


If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when touching the 
screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do anything. 
It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it doesn't 
announce things etc.
And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen curtain 
on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So, if dimming 
the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
Richard



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker





On Feb 10, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Holly mailto:fe...@comcast.net> > wrote:



If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the screen, 
if you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, you can do 
a two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap to start 
it speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech altogether by doing 
a three finger double tap , then start it again the same way with a three 
finger double tap.

I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will still 
be on in both cases.

Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and 
'speech on' when you do the three finger double tap again.

Holly 
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

I know the screen curtain will save some battery, although, I am not sure how 
much and if it would make a considerable difference.  I use screen curtain when 
in public and don’t want on-lookers to see what I am doing on my phone.  I use 
it mainly for privacy.

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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Richard Turner]

If VoiceOver is on but speech is off, you might hear clicks when touching the 
screen; but you would still have to use VoiceOver gestures to do anything.
It is pointless unless you just want to keep VoiceOver silent; so it doesn't 
announce things etc.
And, about screen curtain; it has been shown that if you leave screen curtain 
on for a little while; the screen brightness is turned to zero. So, if dimming 
the screen saves battery; so does screen curtain.
Richard



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any." -- Alice Walker


On Feb 10, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Holly 
mailto:fe...@comcast.net>> wrote:

If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the screen, if you 
want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, you can do a two 
finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap to start it 
speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech altogether by doing a 
three finger double tap , then start it again the same way with a three finger 
double tap.

I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will still be on 
in both cases.

Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and 'speech on' 
when you do the three finger double tap again.

Holly
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

If you are using voice over and it is reading something on the screen, if 
you want to stop voice over talking for a minute to do something, you can do 
a two finger single tap to stop speech, then a two finger single tap to 
start it speaking again.  Alternatively, you can turn off speech altogether 
by doing a three finger double tap , then start it again the same way with a 
three finger double tap.


I am not sure when you would use this feature, as voice over will still be 
on in both cases.


Siri will say 'speech off' after the three finger double tap, and 'speech 
on' when you do the three finger double tap again.


Holly 


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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

I used to tell her to turn off Voice Over, but now I press home button three 
times. How does Voice Over work, if you have speech off? I can't figure out 
about having two of them. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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David Moore
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

That is funny LOL!

A double tap is so intuitive for me to do, I do not think about it. I think 
someone would think to just ask SIRI to turn speech off LOL!

I wonder if you can say speech to SIRI instead of Voice over LOL!

We will have to see what we can ask SIRI to do that would turn off speech for 
the person who took it LOL!

Take care, Carolyn!

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From: Carolyn Arnold <mailto:4carol...@windstream.net> 
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:47 PM
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Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

 

That double tapping really throws sighted people. My husband is really good 
with computers and stuff, but that double tapping - well, he thinks it makes me 
have to work so hard to use my phone. He said if it ever got stolen, the thief 
would not be able to use my phone. My cousin says that people who steel phones 
know more than he thinks, and they'd have Voice Over off in a minute! 

 

Best regards,

 

Carolyn 

 

 

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Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

 

Dear Harry & List:

Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.

 

You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.

When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or do 
three-finger double tap.

You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
screen darker or brighter.

 

Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

 

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Subject: Screen curtain and battery?

 

Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?

Thanks

Harry  

 

 

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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Holly]

Siri will not work with telling her to turn on or off  speech.

She can only turn Voice over on and off.

Having her turn on and off speech would be a nice feature though.

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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[David Moore]

That is funny LOL!
A double tap is so intuitive for me to do, I do not think about it. I think 
someone would think to just ask SIRI to turn speech off LOL!
I wonder if you can say speech to SIRI instead of Voice over LOL!
We will have to see what we can ask SIRI to do that would turn off speech for 
the person who took it LOL!
Take care, Carolyn!
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From: Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 3:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

That double tapping really throws sighted people. My husband is really good 
with computers and stuff, but that double tapping - well, he thinks it makes me 
have to work so hard to use my phone. He said if it ever got stolen, the thief 
would not be able to use my phone. My cousin says that people who steel phones 
know more than he thinks, and they'd have Voice Over off in a minute! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

Dear Harry & List:
Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.

You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.
When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or do 
three-finger double tap.
You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
screen darker or brighter.

Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: February 5, 2019 6:00 AM
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Subject: Screen curtain and battery?

Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
Thanks
Harry  


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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Carolyn Arnold]

That double tapping really throws sighted people. My husband is really good 
with computers and stuff, but that double tapping - well, he thinks it makes me 
have to work so hard to use my phone. He said if it ever got stolen, the thief 
would not be able to use my phone. My cousin says that people who steel phones 
know more than he thinks, and they'd have Voice Over off in a minute! 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brian K. Lingard
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen curtain and battery?

Dear Harry & List:
Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.

You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.
When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or do 
three-finger double tap.
You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
screen darker or brighter.

Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: February 5, 2019 6:00 AM
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Subject: Screen curtain and battery?

Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
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Harry  


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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

['Harry Bell' via VIPhone]

Thanks! Using Siri to reduce brightness is a great idea. 
Harry

> On 10 Feb 2019, at 14:05, Brian K. Lingard  wrote:
> 
> Dear Harry & List:
> Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
> setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.
> 
> You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
> someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
> well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.
> When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or 
> do three-finger double tap.
> You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
> screen darker or brighter.
> 
> Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
> voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.
> Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.
> 
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: February 5, 2019 6:00 AM
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> Subject: Screen curtain and battery?
> 
> Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
> Thanks
> Harry  
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Herv]

3 finger double tap turns off speech but not voiceover.
I also don't think that screen curtain saves any battery.
If you want to make your screen brighter, just open control center and put it 
up.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Brian K. Lingard  wrote:
> 
> Dear Harry & List:
> Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
> setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.
> 
> You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
> someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
> well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.
> When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or 
> do three-finger double tap.
> You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
> screen darker or brighter.
> 
> Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
> voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.
> Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.
> 
> From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
> Sent: February 5, 2019 6:00 AM
> To: Abridged Recipients 
> Subject: Screen curtain and battery?
> 
> Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
> Thanks
> Harry  
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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Brian K. Lingard]

Dear Harry & List:
Not aware using screen curtain saves battery. It blacks out the screen by 
setting entire screen to black, this uses battery power.

You may save battery a good bit by saying Hey Siri make screen darkest. If 
someone sighted wants to use the phone, say hey Siri make screen brightest as 
well as hey Siri turn voiceover off.
When they are finished, turn voiceover on with hey Siri turn voiceover on or do 
three-finger double tap.
You can darken & Brighten the screen in 25% increments with hey Siri make 
screen darker or brighter.

Turning off voiceover lets the phone respond to single taaps, not double with 
voiceover on. Sighted people never get used to double tapping.
Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

From: 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
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Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
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Re: Screen curtain and battery?

[Christopher Chaltain]

The XR is still using LCD technology. You're right, theoretically you 
should save some power on an OLED display if you're displaying a lot of 
black since it isn't back lit, but since the XR is the battery king, I 
think you're also right that in practice this is barely noticeable.



On 2/5/19 10:17 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

At some point Apple introduced a feature where if you turn on screen curtain 
screen brightness should go to 0%. If that is working which it does seem to to 
on my iPhone 8, then yes, screen curtain would save you a little battery life 
just because brightness is 0%. Otherwise iOS 12 has nothing to do with it, I 
think on iPhones with an OLED screen which has no backlighting, theoretically 
turning screen curtain on should save a bit of battery life, that would be the 
iPhone X, XR, XS and XS Max, but then again I assume it's such a tiny amount 
that it wouldn't matter.


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Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
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RE: Screen curtain and battery?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

At some point Apple introduced a feature where if you turn on screen curtain 
screen brightness should go to 0%. If that is working which it does seem to to 
on my iPhone 8, then yes, screen curtain would save you a little battery life 
just because brightness is 0%. Otherwise iOS 12 has nothing to do with it, I 
think on iPhones with an OLED screen which has no backlighting, theoretically 
turning screen curtain on should save a bit of battery life, that would be the 
iPhone X, XR, XS and XS Max, but then again I assume it's such a tiny amount 
that it wouldn't matter.


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Does the screen curtain save battery now on all iPhone models running iOS 12?
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RE: screen curtain RE: Questions regarding Amazon Video, for a friend

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It saves absolutely zip to turn on the screen curtain. The battery drain from 
the screen comes from the amount of backlighting (mostly) and screen curtain 
does not change the backlighting, it just artifically blackens the screen.
There are assumptions that on a phone with an OLED screen like the soon to be 
released iPhone X screen curtain might save battery, but I don't believe it 
until I hear official confirmation from Apple that this is so. In the meantime 
if you don't have sighted people using the phone set your brightness to 0% and 
turn off auto brightness, if anything this will save you a bit of battery.
Did you use your signature during Irma as well? *smile*


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John R. Vaughn
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen curtain RE: Questions regarding Amazon Video, for a friend

Sieghard,
Forgot about the screen curtain.  Does using the screen curtain save much on 
battery life.  I have a 5S with IOS 10 latest build.
Thank you in advance for guidance..
John in sunny southwest Florida

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:44 AM
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Subject: RE: Questions regarding Amazon Video, for a friend

If he has turned on the screen curtain and it interferes with this app 
(unlikely as it may be) he should maybe turn it off with a 3-finger triple tap.
.

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 3:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Questions regarding Amazon Video, for a friend

Hello everyone,

I’ve not tried this program yet. Been meaning to do so. Just hadn’t gotten 
around to it.
However, I have a totally blind friend, who has been using it for some time, 
now. He has a 6S, with I believe the latest update. As well as latest app 
update.


He told me today that he used to be able to see everything in his library. But 
that now this isn’t the case.
He said that where he thinks he should see his library, I think he said this 
was toward the right side of his screen, it states screen curtain on, and won’t 
show the library.
He says that if he does a search for something he’s purchased, it then will 
show it.


Does anyone else use this App?
Is anyone else having any sort of problems, especially when it comes to seeing 
their Amazon video, library?
  Can anyone offer me some thoughts, or suggestions?


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Screen curtain

[Thom Spittle]

3 finger triple tap

 

 

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Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 11:38 AM
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Subject: Screen curtain

 

Good day, folks.  

 

I am not remembering exactly the command for turning on and off the screen 
curtain.  I know it’s some sort of triple tap but I’m not sure with how many 
fingers.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

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Re: Screen curtain

['Simon w' via VIPhone]

3 fingers,

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Bill Outman  wrote:
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> Good day, folks. 
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> I am not remembering exactly the command for turning on and off the screen 
> curtain.  I know it’s some sort of triple tap but I’m not sure with how many 
> fingers. 
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> Bill Outman
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re: Screen curtain

[rajmund]

Hi,
3 finger triple tap.  Its a toggle, so do it 3 times will enable, 
do it again 3 times will disable.


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Re: Screen curtain

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Bill,

It's a three-finger triple-tap unless you're also running Zoom, in which case, 
you tap four times with three fingers.

Best,
Anna



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> I am not remembering exactly the command for turning on and off the screen 
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> fingers.  
>  
> Bill Outman 
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Re: Screen curtain

[Paul Sandoval]

It’s a 3 finger triple tap.
Have a great day!

On Sep 2, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Bill Outman 
> wrote:

Good day, folks.

I am not remembering exactly the command for turning on and off the screen 
curtain.  I know it’s some sort of triple tap but I’m not sure with how many 
fingers.

Bill Outman


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RE: Screen Curtain:

[Merv Keck]

That would be a nice experiment for a sighted individual to try just for fun. 
Perhaps an if I were writing books about IOS without the eye and I had a 
sighted daughter who was very technically savvy I might play with that just for 
kicks, laughs!


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Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 9:52 AM
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Subject: RE: Screen Curtain:

The purpose of the screen curtain is to offer privacy and it does this 
perfectly. Apple does not say that turning on the screen curtain saves battery 
and it is not designed to reduce whatever brightness level you set.
As far as I understand it, it just fills the screen with black pixels so that 
nothing else can be seen. Setting the brightness to 0% only means the 
backlighting is all the way off, but it is still perfectly possible for a 
sighted person to see what is on the screen especially if they look directly at 
it in a not too bright place. If it was very bright in the room or outside in 
sunlight and somebody looked a bit from the side chances are at 0% brightness 
very little could be seen.

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William Windels
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Subject: Re: Screen Curtain:

Hello all,

The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature could 
better I think.
Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn’t completely dark when screen 
curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
area’s.

I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using energy 
for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to on, 
should perhaps be a better way.

Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.

Kind regards,
William Windels
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Re: Screen Curtain:

[William Windels]

Hello all,

The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature could 
better I think.
Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn’t completely dark when screen 
curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
area’s.

I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using energy 
for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to on, 
should perhaps be a better way.

Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.

Kind regards,
William Windels
> Op 6 nov. 2015, om 01:22 heeft Donald Moore  het 
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> How do you remove or open it?
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RE: Screen Curtain:

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The purpose of the screen curtain is to offer privacy and it does this 
perfectly. Apple does not say that turning on the screen curtain saves battery 
and it is not designed to reduce whatever brightness level you set.
As far as I understand it, it just fills the screen with black pixels so that 
nothing else can be seen. Setting the brightness to 0% only means the 
backlighting is all the way off, but it is still perfectly possible for a 
sighted person to see what is on the screen especially if they look directly at 
it in a not too bright place. If it was very bright in the room or outside in 
sunlight and somebody looked a bit from the side chances are at 0% brightness 
very little could be seen.

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William Windels
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Curtain:

Hello all,

The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature could 
better I think.
Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn’t completely dark when screen 
curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
area’s.

I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using energy 
for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to on, 
should perhaps be a better way.

Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.

Kind regards,
William Windels
> Op 6 nov. 2015, om 01:22 heeft Donald Moore <don.moor...@comcast.net> het 
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> How do you remove or open it?
> 
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RE: Screen Curtain:

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Yes, my sighted daughter can read my screen at 0% brightness with screen 
curtain off, but can't read anything with screen curtain on.
Keith
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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 8:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen Curtain:

The purpose of the screen curtain is to offer privacy and it does this 
perfectly. Apple does not say that turning on the screen curtain saves battery 
and it is not designed to reduce whatever brightness level you set.
As far as I understand it, it just fills the screen with black pixels so that 
nothing else can be seen. Setting the brightness to 0% only means the 
backlighting is all the way off, but it is still perfectly possible for a 
sighted person to see what is on the screen especially if they look directly at 
it in a not too bright place. If it was very bright in the room or outside in 
sunlight and somebody looked a bit from the side chances are at 0% brightness 
very little could be seen.

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William Windels
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 5:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen Curtain:

Hello all,

The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature could 
better I think.
Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn’t completely dark when screen 
curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
area’s.

I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using energy 
for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to on, 
should perhaps be a better way.

Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.

Kind regards,
William Windels
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Re: Screen Curtain:

[Rajmund]

Hello,
I, someone who has 1100% light vision, but not much more than that, can 
confirm. Despite the fact that screen curtain is on, while text will not 
appear, according to sighted it will still give off some light. Decreasing the 
brightness, according to my eyes, help a very very very tiny bit, but still, 
even with 0%, and curtain on, its not full dark.

- Original Message -
From: William Windels  <william.wind...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:21 pm
Subject: Re: Screen Curtain:

>
>
> Hello all,
> 
> The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature 
> could better I think.
> Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn't completely dark when screen 
> curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
> area's.
> 
> I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using 
> energy for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
> Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to 
> on, should perhaps be a better way.
> 
> Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
> > Op 6 nov. 2015, om 01:22 heeft Donald Moore <don.moor...@comcast.net> het 
> > volgende geschreven:
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> > How do you remove or open it?
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Re: Screen Curtain:

[William Windels]

Yes, for privacy security, the feature is doing it's job perfectly.
But, working without screen, should use less energy.
I know, this not abug but perhaps a interesting featurerequest.


Mvg
william Windels

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

> Op 7 nov. 2015 om 16:04 heeft Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> het volgende geschreven:
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> Yes, my sighted daughter can read my screen at 0% brightness with screen 
> curtain off, but can't read anything with screen curtain on.
> Keith
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> Sieghard Weitzel
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> 
> The purpose of the screen curtain is to offer privacy and it does this 
> perfectly. Apple does not say that turning on the screen curtain saves 
> battery and it is not designed to reduce whatever brightness level you set.
> As far as I understand it, it just fills the screen with black pixels so that 
> nothing else can be seen. Setting the brightness to 0% only means the 
> backlighting is all the way off, but it is still perfectly possible for a 
> sighted person to see what is on the screen especially if they look directly 
> at it in a not too bright place. If it was very bright in the room or outside 
> in sunlight and somebody looked a bit from the side chances are at 0% 
> brightness very little could be seen.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> William Windels
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Screen Curtain:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> The screen curtain works perfect for me but the system after this feature 
> could better I think.
> Sighted friends told me that the iPhone isn’t completely dark when screen 
> curtain is on. I mean: they see some light from my iPhone in completely dark 
> area’s.
> 
> I am not shore but I think that , on this way, the screen is also using 
> energy for light while this is useless and could save less energy.
> Putting the  brightness of the screen to 0%, when screen curtain is set to 
> on, should perhaps be a better way.
> 
> Thx for any suggestion or comment about this.
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
>> Op 6 nov. 2015, om 01:22 heeft Donald Moore <don.moor...@comcast.net> het 
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>> 
>> How do you remove or open it?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
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Re: Screen Curtain:

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Actually three finger triple tap. A double tap mutes speech.

On 11/6/15, deidre muccio  wrote:
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> Sorry, it's a 3 finger triple tap.
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RE: Screen Curtain:

[deidre muccio]

Sorry, it's a 3 finger triple tap. 

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How do you remove or open it?

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RE: Screen Curtain:

[deidre muccio]

3 finger double tap. 

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RE: Screen Curtain:

[cd]

Do a three finger triple tap to turn on and turn off the screen curtain.


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How do you remove or open it?

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RE: Screen Curtain:

[Donald Moore]

Thank you!!!



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Do a three finger triple tap to turn on and turn off the screen curtain.


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How do you remove or open it?

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Re: Screen Curtain:

[Rajmund]

HELLO,
3 finger triple tap, and it will toggle it.

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Re: Screen curtain not working

[Aleeha Dudley]

I would try first restarting Voiceover. Then try restarting your phone. If that 
doesn’t work, a restore might be in order. 
 On Jul 21, 2015, at 7:10 PM, TaraPrakash taraprak...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All
 Even if  voice over says screen curtain on  
 
 There is no impact on screen   Screen  curtain not working on my phone   Any 
 suggestions how to make it work again 
 Thanks for any suggestions 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain question

[Michelle Scott]

Hi,

Its three finger tripple tap.

Sincerely,

Michelle
 On Mar 14, 2015, at 10:32 AM, rex wisdom rexwis...@verizon.net wrote:
 
 How do I turn screen curtain off?  Thanks for any help.
  
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Re: Screen curtain question

[Kerri G]

Hello, Rex, simply triple tap the screen with 3 fingers.
Your real life is what goes on inside you, not the circumstances that go on 
around you. 



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Re: Screen curtain question

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A three finger triple tap will toggle screen curtain on and off.

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Re: Screen curtain question

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The gesture for toggling screen curtain on and off is three-finger-triple-tap:

hth,
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RE: Screen curtain question

[rex wisdom]

Thank you so much.

 

Do you know of a way to set screen curtain where it will never be turned on?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Screen curtain question

 

The gesture for toggling screen curtain on and off is
three-finger-triple-tap:

 

hth,

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod


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How do I turn screen curtain off?  Thanks for any help.

 

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RE: Screen curtain question

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You cannot disable the screen curtain.

Just avoid a three finger triple tap.

HTH,

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they become by it.

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Thank you so much.

 

Do you know of a way to set screen curtain where it will never be turned on?

 

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Subject: Re: Screen curtain question

 

The gesture for toggling screen curtain on and off is three-finger-triple-tap:

 

hth,

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod


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How do I turn screen curtain off?  Thanks for any help.

 

GDB Retro  Rex

 

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RE: Screen curtain question

[rex wisdom]

thanks

 

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Subject: RE: Screen curtain question

 

You cannot disable the screen curtain.

Just avoid a three finger triple tap.

HTH,

Richard

 

 

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what they become by it.

- John Ruskin

 

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Thank you so much.

 

Do you know of a way to set screen curtain where it will never be turned on?

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Screen curtain question

 

The gesture for toggling screen curtain on and off is
three-finger-triple-tap:

 

hth,

Teresa

Winging its way from my iPod


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How do I turn screen curtain off?  Thanks for any help.

 

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Gmail]

If you want your brightness to stay at zero, you'll have to make sure to turn 
off the auto brightness setting in settings/brightness and wallpaper. Then you 
can turn your brightness down to zero and it will stay there. I do things this 
way because I rarely give my phone to sighted people. If I do need to show 
someone something, I just turn up the brightness using the control center, then 
turn off VoiceOver. When they give the phone back to me, I just turn VO back 
on, turn down the brightness, and continue with what I was doing earlier.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 9:11 PM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Jose,
 
 As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
 blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
 phone from a few feet away.
 
 The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
 artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
 screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
 Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
 curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
 using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
 you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
 0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
 it is much more difficult especially in bright light.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 Cc: Jose Lomeli
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 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

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Hi,
Also, if you have screen curtain turned on while, at the same time, you have 
colours , inverted, the screen does not go black, it goes white! Your phone 
will run hotter! If you are not able to see the screen anyway, this might be 
worth bearing in mind…

Just my observations,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

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 Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and 
 nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an 
 image on the screen that a sighted person can see.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
 not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
 I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
 person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
 battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
 changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
 brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.
 
 
 
 Regards, Feliciano
 www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 -Original Message- 
 From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jose Lomeli
 Subject: Screen curtain!
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Sandratomkins]

Hi,
It is worth remembering that if the screen could be completely black while a 
person is not using the voice over, the phone would become, effectively, a 
brick! People could not even tell if the phone was switched on or off. So, even 
the most minimal amount of light emission from the screen must still be 
enabled. It is for this reason that the screen curtain will be disabled when 
you turn voice-over off.

HTH,
Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 Jul 2014, at 18:36, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous 
 - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech 
 joseph.freet...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
 nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
 image on the screen that a sighted person can see.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
 not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
 I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
 person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
 battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
 changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
 brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.
 
 
 
 Regards, Feliciano
 www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 -Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jose Lomeli
 Subject: Screen curtain!
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

LOL!  Funny guy huh! LOL!  Your OK with me Bill!

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Bill Gallik wfgal...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Now Alan;

Just because the description states 0% brightness doesn't mean it cannot be
seen at all.  After all, quite often I'm accused of having 0% brightness,
yet nobody never claims I've become invisible!   ;-)

Holland's Boy, Bill
- Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.
- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it on
and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not
shure. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Feliciano G]

It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can 
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since 
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the 
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the 
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant 
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto 
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.




Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does 
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the 
battery? Please let me know!


Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Joseph FreeTech]

Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and 
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an 
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Jonathan Mosen]

Hi Alan. I regularly get family members to look at my iPhone screen with 
brightness at 0%. They can see it, but with screen curtain on, they cannot.
Jonathan Mosen
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

Thanks JonathanI learned something new this morning.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - 
everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on: 

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jonathan Mosen 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:32 AM
  Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


  Hi Alan. I regularly get family members to look at my iPhone screen with 
brightness at 0%. They can see it, but with screen curtain on, they cannot.

  Jonathan Mosen
  Mosen Consulting
  Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
  http://Mosen.org



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Re: Screen curtain!

[Mich]

with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it on 
and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not 
shure. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- 
From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Teresa Cochran]

The brightness setting simply turns the bcklight up or down. If the room is 
well-lit, it's still possible to see the screen with brightness set to 0. It's 
just similar to reading the print on a page or a Kindle tablet with ambient 
lighting.

Teresa

We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan

 On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:36 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous 
 - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech 
 joseph.freet...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
 nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
 image on the screen that a sighted person can see.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
 not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
 I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
 person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
 battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
 changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
 brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.
 
 
 
 Regards, Feliciano
 www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 -Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jose Lomeli
 Subject: Screen curtain!
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Teresa Cochran]

Double-tap with three fingers toggles speech on and off. Triple-tap toggles 
screen curtain.

Teresa

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 On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 
 with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it on 
 and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not shure. 
 many thanks. from Mich.
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech 
 joseph.freet...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
 nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
 image on the screen that a sighted person can see.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
 not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
 I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
 person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
 battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
 changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
 brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.
 
 
 
 Regards, Feliciano
 www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
 -Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jose Lomeli
 Subject: Screen curtain!
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Mich]

ok that is where I was getting confused lol thx. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Double-tap with three fingers toggles speech on and off. Triple-tap toggles 
screen curtain.


Teresa

We're made of star stuff.--Carl Sagan


On Jul 10, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it 
on and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not 
shure. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Joseph FreeTech 
joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows 
an

image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Feliciano G 
theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time 
since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where 
the

person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any 
significant

changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
-Original Message- From: Jose Lomeli
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? 
Does

it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

It's a 3 finger triple tap.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it on
and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not
shure. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
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From: Jose Lomeli

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Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Flor Lynch]

But you would also hope that Screen Curtain does what it says it means, 
smile. The screen curtain feature probably wouldn't be there if there 
was no need of it.


- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen 
and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still 
shows an

image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people 
can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time 
since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where 
the

person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any 
significant

changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
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From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? 
Does

it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Alan Paganelli]

Very true!

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Jul 10, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote:
 
 But you would also hope that Screen Curtain does what it says it means, 
 smile. The screen curtain feature probably wouldn't be there if there was 
 no need of it.
 
 - Original Message - From: Alan Paganelli 
 alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 6:36 PM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
 ridiculous - everyone
 hasn't met me yet.
 
 Please click on:
 
 HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
 Subject: Re: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
 nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still 

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Re: Screen curtain!

[Bill Gallik]

Now Alan;

Just because the description states 0% brightness doesn't mean it cannot be 
seen at all.  After all, quite often I'm accused of having 0% brightness, 
yet nobody never claims I've become invisible!   ;-)


Holland's Boy, Bill
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- US Humorist, Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
- Original Message - 
From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


with all this talk of the screen curtin what is the vo jester to turn it on
and off? i want to say 3 finger tripple tap or dubble tap but I am not
shure. many thanks. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Wow, you would think 0 means what it says it does.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


Actually, the screen curtain blackens all light coming from the screen and
nothing can be seen, whereas turning down the brightness to 0 still shows an
image on the screen that a sighted person can see.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


If you have brightness set to 0, you don't need the screen curtain.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being
ridiculous - everyone
hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Feliciano G theblindman...@hotmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!


It's for privacy purposes. The screen is simply black to where people can
not see what you're doing as you use the phone. I use it all the time since
I commute on the bus. I don't like to have my phone lit and all to where the
person next to me can be sneeky and see what I'm doing. As far as the
battery, not sure how to answer that, but I haven't noticed any significant
changes. I use my iphone with brightness  all the way down and auto
brightness off since I don't need that to be on as I can't see it.



Regards, Feliciano
www.twitter.com/theblindman12v
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From: Jose Lomeli

Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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RE: Screen curtain!

[Marja Taylor]

I also use the screen curtain while reading in bed at night, so the light
from the screen won't keep my husband awake.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: den 30 juni 2014 06:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain!

  The screen curtain is for the sighted not to be able to look at your 
phone screen; for instance if you're using your IPhone and you don't 
want for people, when looking over your shoulder, turn on the curtain 
via a three-finger double tap; to turn it off again and regain the 
phone's screen, again three-finger double tap. Good luck!

El 29/06/2014 10:53 p.m., Jose Lomeli escribió:
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for?
Does it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: Screen curtain!

[Teresa Cochran]

This sounds like an I can top this statement, but I was reminded of what I 
do. I use a Braille display and keep my iPod in my bag, so it's invisible. 
Since the Braille display has no lights or screen, what I'm doing with it is 
completely off the visual spectrum, though rarely, some folks will ask me if 
I'm using a Braille display or if I'm reading something. That's prejtz astute, 
and those folks show enough interest that I'm willing to tell them more about 
it.

Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 The funny thing about this is that though you try to black out the screen 
 for privacy purposes, people will still bug you. The exchange goes as 
 follows:
 
 its off,
 
 I'm sorry, are you referring to me?
 
 Yes, your screen is turned off.
 
 At this point I have to decide whether I say thank you for telling me,  or 
 I explain to them what the device is doing and risk offending the person by 
 trying to prevent them from trying to peak at my iDevice's screen. I usually 
 just thank them. Smile.
 
 Joseph
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM
 Subject: RE: Screen curtain!
 
 
 Hi Jose,
 
 As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
 blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
 phone from a few feet away.
 
 The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
 artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
 screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
 Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
 curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
 using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
 you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
 0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
 it is much more difficult especially in bright light.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jose Lomeli
 Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 8:53 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: Jose Lomeli
 Subject: Screen curtain!
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
 battery? Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Gerardo Corripio]

 The screen curtain is for the sighted not to be able to look at your 
phone screen; for instance if you're using your IPhone and you don't 
want for people, when looking over your shoulder, turn on the curtain 
via a three-finger double tap; to turn it off again and regain the 
phone's screen, again three-finger double tap. Good luck!


El 29/06/2014 10:53 p.m., Jose Lomeli escribió:

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does it 
make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the battery? 
Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
Sent from my iPhone



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RE: Screen curtain!

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jose,

As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
phone from a few feet away.

The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
it is much more difficult especially in bright light.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Jose Lomeli
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jose Lomeli
Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
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Jose Lomeli
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Teresa Cochran]

Hi, Jose,

Screen curtain is a part of Voiceover. It's used to darken the screen and give 
privacy. As far as I'm aware, it doesn't save battery life, because it doesn't 
disable the screen. I use the screen brightness setting, because it does 
improve battery life and works when Voiceover is off. I think screen curtain is 
a good temmorary privacy solution.

HtH,
Teresa

Twinkle, twinkle, little bat
How I wonder what you're at
--Lewis Carroll

 On Jun 29, 2014, at 8:53 PM, Jose Lomeli jose.lome...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does 
 it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the battery? 
 Please let me know!
 
 Jose Lomeli
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Cathy]

It is 3 finger triple tap.  Double tap is turning the voice over on and off. 
Tap the phone three time with 3 fingers.
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Feliciano G]

Three finger double tap turns off on and on  the speech

  Regards, Feliciano

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 It is 3 finger triple tap.  Double tap is turning the voice over on and off. 
 Tap the phone three time with 3 fingers.
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Re: Screen curtain!

[Joseph FreeTech]

The funny thing about this is that though you try to black out the screen 
for privacy purposes, people will still bug you. The exchange goes as 
follows:

its off,

I'm sorry, are you referring to me?

Yes, your screen is turned off.

At this point I have to decide whether I say thank you for telling me,  or 
I explain to them what the device is doing and risk offending the person by 
trying to prevent them from trying to peak at my iDevice's screen. I usually 
just thank them. Smile.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: Screen curtain!


Hi Jose,

As Gerado already pointed out, it is simply a means for privacy since as a
blind person you can't always be sure that somebody isn't looking at your
phone from a few feet away.

The screen curtain actually does nothing to brightness, it simply
artificially blacks out the screen. There have been claims that using the
screen curtain saves battery, but this is not correct. I at one point asked
Apple Accessibility and received a reply stating that use of the screen
curtain does not improve battery life. If you don't have sighted people
using your phone you can turn brightness down to 0% which actually will save
you battery. Keep in mind that this simply means the backlight is turned to
0% and it is still possible to see and read what is on the screen although
it is much more difficult especially in bright light.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Screen curtain!

Hello; Listers, I have a question! What is the screen curtain used for? Does
it make the screen brightness lower like up to 0%? Does it waist the
battery? Please let me know!

Jose Lomeli
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RE: Screen curtain activation on iphone 5C

[Alex Stone]

Me too, it works fine on my 5c for work.

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Subject: Re: Screen curtain activation on iphone 5C

It is triple finger triple tap. I'm surprised it doesn't work. I use it all
the time.
HTH,

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
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iPhone?  I've completely forgotten.  I thought it was tripple three finger
tap on the screen but it does not seem to work.
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: Screen curtain activation on iphone 5C

[Dillon Collier]

To activate screen curtin yyou do a  three finger double tap three times in a  
roe to actiate it and turn iit back off again!

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 13, 2014, at 7:23 AM, Alex Stone alex.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Me too, it works fine on my 5c for work.
 
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 Sent: 13 May 2014 13:22
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 It is triple finger triple tap. I'm surprised it doesn't work. I use it all
 the time.
 HTH,
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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 iPhone?  I've completely forgotten.  I thought it was tripple three finger
 tap on the screen but it does not seem to work.
 
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Re: Screen curtain activation on iphone 5C

[Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy]

It is triple finger triple tap. I'm surprised it doesn't work. I use it all the 
time.
HTH,

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
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Re: Screen curtain activation on iphone 5C

[Isaac Hebert]

To activate screen currtain do a three finger tripple tap.

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RE: Screen curtain.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

The way I understand it, this statement would be wrong.  The screen curtain
does not turn the screen off, it merely hide's it and, after many, many
tests, does not make any difference on battery drain.  Brightness levels
make a difference on battery drain but not the curtain.

Ron  Danvers
  

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Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: Screen curtain.

The screen curtain turns the screen off. You can leave your brightness
werever you want and when the curtain is disabled, it will return to that
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:06, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all it's screen curtain not screen courtain. Just so we all know
what you're talking about.
 It's best to only use screen curtain in situations where you would rather
have some privacy by nobody being able to look over your shoulder. Otherwise
leave it off. It doesn't seem to make a difference on the battery at least
at my end. The brightness however does consume power. The higher the
percentage the more power the device consumes.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 06/11/2013 15:36, Dan Rossi wrote:
 My apologies for such a newbee question, but I just want to make sure 
 that I fully understand the functionality of screen courtain.  I only 
 just realized what might be happening with this feature.  I had 
 turned the brightness way down on my screen, and had probably engaged 
 screen courtain at some point.  When I was attempting to show my wife 
 some pictures, she said she couldn't see anything, so I turned up the 
 brightness.  She still couldn't see anything.  She said the screen 
 was black, so I did the three finger triple tap to turn off the 
 screen courtain, and all was happy.
 
 So, my question is, should I just leave brightness at a high setting 
 so the screen is easily read by a sighted person when screen courtain 
 is off, and just keep the screen courtain on whenever I am using the 
 phone?
 
 I had always assumed that the courtain was dynamic and was only on 
 when the phone was locked.  Since it seems to be a persistent thing, 
 then there doesn't seem to be a need for me to keep brightness turned 
 down.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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RE: Screen curtain.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

That is correct, Ron, after all, it is called Screen Curtain On or Screen
Curtain Off when you do a 3-finger triple tap and not Screen Off or
Screen On.

One has to remember that we are talking about a touch screen here, so
turning off the screen which basically is what happens when you lock the
phone, also disables touch. Here is what Apple writes about the screen
curtain:

For added privacy, you can prevent those around you from reading the screen
by using the screen curtain, which temporarily turns the screen black.
The screen curtain is also useful for sighted users who want to avoid
reading the screen while learning to use VoiceOver.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Ron Pelletier
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Screen curtain.

Hi,

The way I understand it, this statement would be wrong.  The screen curtain
does not turn the screen off, it merely hide's it and, after many, many
tests, does not make any difference on battery drain.  Brightness levels
make a difference on battery drain but not the curtain.

Ron  Danvers
  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Screen curtain.

The screen curtain turns the screen off. You can leave your brightness
werever you want and when the curtain is disabled, it will return to that
setting. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 6, 2013, at 11:06, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 First of all it's screen curtain not screen courtain. Just so we all 
 know
what you're talking about.
 It's best to only use screen curtain in situations where you would 
 rather
have some privacy by nobody being able to look over your shoulder. Otherwise
leave it off. It doesn't seem to make a difference on the battery at least
at my end. The brightness however does consume power. The higher the
percentage the more power the device consumes.
 
 E-mail Facebook and iMessage
 christopher...@gmail.com
 
 On 06/11/2013 15:36, Dan Rossi wrote:
 My apologies for such a newbee question, but I just want to make sure 
 that I fully understand the functionality of screen courtain.  I only 
 just realized what might be happening with this feature.  I had 
 turned the brightness way down on my screen, and had probably engaged 
 screen courtain at some point.  When I was attempting to show my wife 
 some pictures, she said she couldn't see anything, so I turned up the 
 brightness.  She still couldn't see anything.  She said the screen 
 was black, so I did the three finger triple tap to turn off the 
 screen courtain, and all was happy.
 
 So, my question is, should I just leave brightness at a high setting 
 so the screen is easily read by a sighted person when screen courtain 
 is off, and just keep the screen courtain on whenever I am using the 
 phone?
 
 I had always assumed that the courtain was dynamic and was only on 
 when the phone was locked.  Since it seems to be a persistent thing, 
 then there doesn't seem to be a need for me to keep brightness turned 
 down.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
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