RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

It means when a company plans for something they have produced to become out of 
date after a certain length of time.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi Ritchard many thanks for answering my question what does planned 
obsolescence meen? From Mich. 

 

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Richard Turner
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…

 

This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: 

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[michv]

Hi Ritchard many thanks for answering my question what does planned 
obsolescence meen? From Mich. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…

 

This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

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Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
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Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

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Sieghard Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know wha

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Marda]

Agreed.  But I doubt they will offer that.  They should also offer the 
ability to install SD cards as some android phones do for additional 
storage which would free up more internal memory for AI features.


Marda

On 6/13/2024 2:10 AM, 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone wrote:

hi,
The speed of the advancement of AI is so dramatic that I think it's a bit hard 
to predict how long the phones are going to last, obviously, they can't keep on 
making new phones to suit the new AI, at some point we should be offered the 
possibility of having the chips changed and not the phone, what do people think?
Sandy NZ
Sent from The dark side of the moon


On 13 Jun 2024, at 00:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I think as iPhone users we really shouldn't complain, apple delivers updates 
to phones usually about 5 years back, but if they introduce something like 
Apple Intelligence which requires such massive amounts of computing power and 
probavbly also RAM, then to me that has nothing to do with planned obsolescence 
and it's no different than if a particular new feature requires specific 
hardware such as when Touch Id or Face Id was introduced or when you have 
features like measuring or determining how far you are from something which 
requires a LiDAR sensor. We should be glad that Apple at least still has some 
kind of standard with respect to privacy and they do as much as possible on 
device instead of just sending it up to the cloud where it is processed on some 
server.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
prove to be?
Malcolm Parfitt


On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put up with the 
reduced effectiveness...



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to 
stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell 
Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

It's a way to sell more phones too.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…



This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.













Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to 
stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell 
Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)



My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>



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mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement



Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.



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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement



Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular pho

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't think it's this easy especially with phones, but even with computers a 
chip/CPU change typically also requires a motherboard change especially with 
Intel. Anyways, I doubt we'll see an iPhone with an upgradeable CPU any time 
soon. I also don't think this I san issue, rightnow these new AI features 
require a modern chip, but I am pretty sure that going forward you'll be fine 
with say an A17 or A18 chip (which will be this year's version) for years to 
come.

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2024 12:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

hi,
The speed of the advancement of AI is so dramatic that I think it's a bit hard 
to predict how long the phones are going to last, obviously, they can't keep on 
making new phones to suit the new AI, at some point we should be offered the 
possibility of having the chips changed and not the phone, what do people think?
Sandy NZ 
Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 13 Jun 2024, at 00:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think as iPhone users we really shouldn't complain, apple delivers updates 
> to phones usually about 5 years back, but if they introduce something like 
> Apple Intelligence which requires such massive amounts of computing power and 
> probavbly also RAM, then to me that has nothing to do with planned 
> obsolescence and it's no different than if a particular new feature requires 
> specific hardware such as when Touch Id or Face Id was introduced or when you 
> have features like measuring or determining how far you are from something 
> which requires a LiDAR sensor. We should be glad that Apple at least still 
> has some kind of standard with respect to privacy and they do as much as 
> possible on device instead of just sending it up to the cloud where it is 
> processed on some server.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
> prove to be?
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
>> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
>> up with the reduced effectiveness...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>> 
>> It's a way to sell more phones too.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>> 
>> Nope.
>> 
>> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
>> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
>> 
>> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
>> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
>> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
>> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
>> pro max got the new A17.
>> 
>> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
>> pro max the A18…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  
>> 
>> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> 
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

['Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone]

hi,
The speed of the advancement of AI is so dramatic that I think it's a bit hard 
to predict how long the phones are going to last, obviously, they can't keep on 
making new phones to suit the new AI, at some point we should be offered the 
possibility of having the chips changed and not the phone, what do people think?
Sandy NZ 
Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 13 Jun 2024, at 00:43, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I think as iPhone users we really shouldn't complain, apple delivers updates 
> to phones usually about 5 years back, but if they introduce something like 
> Apple Intelligence which requires such massive amounts of computing power and 
> probavbly also RAM, then to me that has nothing to do with planned 
> obsolescence and it's no different than if a particular new feature requires 
> specific hardware such as when Touch Id or Face Id was introduced or when you 
> have features like measuring or determining how far you are from something 
> which requires a LiDAR sensor. We should be glad that Apple at least still 
> has some kind of standard with respect to privacy and they do as much as 
> possible on device instead of just sending it up to the cloud where it is 
> processed on some server.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
> prove to be?
> Malcolm Parfitt
> 
>> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
>> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
>> up with the reduced effectiveness...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Carolyn Arnold
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>> 
>> It's a way to sell more phones too.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>> 
>> Nope.
>> 
>> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
>> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
>> 
>> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
>> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
>> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
>> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
>> pro max got the new A17.
>> 
>> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
>> pro max the A18…
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  
>> 
>> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA
>> 
>> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less 
>> than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
>> fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." 
>> -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> mi...@eastlink.ca
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple 
>> intelligence? From Mich.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Fr

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think as iPhone users we really shouldn't complain, apple delivers updates to 
phones usually about 5 years back, but if they introduce something like Apple 
Intelligence which requires such massive amounts of computing power and 
probavbly also RAM, then to me that has nothing to do with planned obsolescence 
and it's no different than if a particular new feature requires specific 
hardware such as when Touch Id or Face Id was introduced or when you have 
features like measuring or determining how far you are from something which 
requires a LiDAR sensor. We should be glad that Apple at least still has some 
kind of standard with respect to privacy and they do as much as possible on 
device instead of just sending it up to the cloud where it is processed on some 
server.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
prove to be? 
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
> up with the reduced effectiveness...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> It's a way to sell more phones too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
> 
> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
> pro max got the new A17.
> 
> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
> pro max the A18…
> 
> 
> 
> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  
> 
> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> 
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple 
> intelligence? From Mich.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
> newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
> probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
> 
> Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
> iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
> the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
> before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
> iPhone 13 series phones, the A15.

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not saying it isn't planned obsolescence, but we are talking about a 
feature that will take considerably more compute power. Plus older phones 
aren't becoming obsolete, they just won't be able to take advantage of a new 
feature. This may ultimately figure into my decision to upgrade my current 
phone, but I won't be doing that as soon as IOS 18 is released.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 1:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
prove to be?
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
>
> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
> up with the reduced effectiveness...
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>
> It's a way to sell more phones too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>
> Nope.
>
> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
>
> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
> pro max got the new A17.
>
> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
> pro max the A18…
>
>
>
> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.
>
> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>
>
>
> Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple 
> intelligence? From Mich.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
>
>
>
> Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
> newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
> probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
>
> Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
> iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
> the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
> before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
> iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
> the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
> 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 
> Bionic from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro 
> and Pro Max received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is 
> that chip which seems to be the min

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

Hopefully longer than the 14 pro and pro max.  They used to be good for at 
least 4 to 5 years.  And of course, they still are if you don't want the newest 
features ... o well.


Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
prove to be? 
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
> up with the reduced effectiveness...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> It's a way to sell more phones too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
> 
> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
> pro max got the new A17.
> 
> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
> pro max the A18…
> 
> 
> 
> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  
> 
> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> 
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple 
> intelligence? From Mich.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
> newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
> probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
> 
> Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
> iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
> the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
> before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
> iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
> the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
> 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 
> Bionic from 2022 and the same as 

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Quite right Richard, I wonder how long the shelf life of the 15 Pro Max will 
prove to be? 
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 12 Jun 2024, at 7:02 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
> equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put 
> up with the reduced effectiveness...
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Carolyn Arnold
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> It's a way to sell more phones too.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> Nope.
> 
> Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
> Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.
> 
> As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
> previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 
> pro and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 
> 15 plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and 
> pro max got the new A17.
> 
> So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
> pro max the A18…
> 
> 
> 
> This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  
> 
> Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> 
> "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than 
> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
> 
> 
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> mi...@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple 
> intelligence? From Mich.
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
> 
> 
> 
> Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
> newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
> probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
> 
> Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
> iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
> the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
> before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
> iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
> the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
> 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 
> Bionic from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro 
> and Pro Max received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is 
> that chip which seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. 
> This year the regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last 
> year and I assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum 
> requirements for Apple Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is 
> what they will be called will get the latest A18 chip.
> 
> I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
> and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on 
> Pro phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. M

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

That is what " planned obsolescence" means.  Companies plan on a piece of 
equipment or software to become obscolete so you have to replace it, or put up 
with the reduced effectiveness...
 


Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 10:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

It's a way to sell more phones too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…

 

This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

It's a way to sell more phones too. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…

 

This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I 
have a feeling we may 

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

Nope, Mich, we're out of luck with our trusty 14's. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I 
have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of 
course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments 
where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it 
will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which 
typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again 
in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple 
Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us 
it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more 
powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One 
thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff 
around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and 
I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”

Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as b

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

Definitely, I can understand with a 14 to wait a while before replacing. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Well, that’s great but as for my phone the iPhone 14 it won’t support the 
intelligence from Apple and later updates so I can only speculate for my 
particular phone that it’s just gonna be kind of minor updates or at least some 
of the major updates minus the whole Siri, Lyft and Apple intelligence, which 
is fine for now until I get a later iPhone, which won’t be for quite some time. 
Right now I have to shave up to get one of those MagSafe three and one chargers 
I’m looking at the Anker Mag Go which I found from Amazon for $99.99 but has a 
coupon that’s 30% off which would be about $69 and some odd cents. normally on 
their store website it’s about $106 so this is pretty good. I have added it to 
my card and will buy it soon.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



 

iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But 
as far as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max 
appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully 
functional.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to 
use the M chips?  I think it is.

I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.

If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great 
trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the 
offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and 
less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight 
fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- 
Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI 
stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one 
won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my 
knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
        Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI 
integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up 
being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off 
moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of 
what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates 
which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and 
again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true 
Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many 
of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even 
more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One 
thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff 
around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

  

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

I think I'll stick with my 14 Pro for one more year; it is paid off. Then, 
probably I'll get a 16, because of the new stuff, and by then, it should be 
more perfected. 

Apple stock is going up nicely. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I 
have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of 
course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments 
where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it 
will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which 
typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again 
in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple 
Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us 
it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more 
powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One 
thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff 
around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and 
I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”

Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X 
years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject:

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

As somebody else said, if you just got it as in less than 2 weeks or maybe 30 
days, depending on where you bought it, you might be able to return it and 
upgrade to a 15 Pro, then you'd be set with respect to Apple Intelligence.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.
I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long 
mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever t

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, iPhone 15 Pro is the minimum.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.
I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long 
mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
T

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

Nope.

Apparently only the A17 chip will be able to take advantage of Apple 
Intelligence.  I believe yours has the A16 chip.

As Sieghard mentioned, with the 14 and 15 they give the non-pro models the 
previous phone’s chip.  So the 14 and 14 plus have the same chip as the 13 pro 
and pro max, the 14 pro and pro max had the newest chip, then the 15 and 15 
plus have the same A16 chip as the 14 pro and pro max, and the 15 pro and pro 
max got the new A17.

So, logically, Apple will give the 16 and 16 plus the A17 and the 16 pro and 
pro max the A18…

 

This is called by some, like me, planned obsolescence.  

Most companies practice this, so it isn’t just Apple.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2024 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and ag

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[michv]

Hi I just got a I phone 14 prow max so will this phone have apple intelligence? 
From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: June 11, 2024 8:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.

Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.

I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”

Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We are currently into a whole new secti

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

I do have one of those lazy bracket neck mounts from B-Land And it was compatible with my phone. I also found that one on Amazon for about 25 bucks.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But as far as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully functional.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.
I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.
If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough. 
 I won’t be holding my breath though, .
 
 

 
Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your
 sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
 
My web site:
https://www.turner42.com

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since
 I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone


 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:





I agree.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon
 as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it
 is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality.
 One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 

Cristóbal

 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear
 the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of
 a let down anyways.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

Well, that’s great but as for my phone the iPhone 14 it won’t support the intelligence from Apple and later updates so I can only speculate for my particular phone that it’s just gonna be kind of minor updates or at least some of the major updates minus the whole Siri, Lyft and Apple intelligence, which is fine for now until I get a later iPhone, which won’t be for quite some time. Right now I have to shave up to get one of those MagSafe three and one chargers I’m looking at the Anker Mag Go which I found from Amazon for $99.99 but has a coupon that’s 30% off which would be about $69 and some odd cents. normally on their store website it’s about $106 so this is pretty good. I have added it to my card and will buy it soon.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 5:30 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But as far as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully functional.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.
I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.
If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough. 
 I won’t be holding my breath though, .
 
 

 
Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your
 sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
 
My web site:
https://www.turner42.com

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since
 I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone


 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:





I agree.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon
 as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it
 is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality.
 One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 

Cristóbal

 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement


 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:




 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear
 the word Siri or AI even once. Of course 

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iPhones don't have "m" chips, that is only iPads and Mac computers. But as far 
as it goes, the A17 Bionic from last year's iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max 
appears to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence to be fully 
functional.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M 
chips?  I think it is.
I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.
If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in 
deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is 
good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .



Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long 
mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Actually Apple Intelligence will only be available on phones with the A17 or 
newer processor which means the iPhone 15 Pro and 15 Pro Max as well as 
probably all this year's iPhone 16 models.
Starting with the iPhone 14 series phones Apple differentiated the regular 
iPhone and iPhone Plus from the Pro and Pro Max by only giving the Pro phones 
the latest processor and the regular phones had the processor from the year 
before. Therefore, the iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the same processor as the 
iPhone 13 series phones, the A15. Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max received 
the A16 Bionic processor in 2022. Then in 2023 when the iPhone 15/15 Plus and 
15 Pro and 15 Pro Max were released, the 15 and 15 Plus received the A16 Bionic 
from 2022 and the same as in iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max. Only the 15 Pro and Pro Max 
received the new A17 Bionic chip released last year and it is that chip which 
seems to be the minimum requirement for Apple Intelligence. This year the 
regular iPhone 16 and 16 Plus will get the A17 Bionic from last year and I 
assume that these phones will therefore meet the minimum requirements for Apple 
Intelligence. The iPhone 16 Pro and Pro Max if that is what they will be called 
will get the latest A18 chip.
I assume Apple will want as many people to have access to Apple Intelligence 
and I therefore don't think they would consider making it available only on Pro 
phones and nothing was said about it during the presentation either. My 2-year 
contract for my 13 Pro will be up I think in late November and I may just have 
to upgrade in order to get access to Apple Intelligence and all it can do and 
all the new Siri with Chat GPT integration can do. Normally I would have 
probably kept my iPhone 13 Pro for another year, but this all sounds just too 
cool and useful to pass it up.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.
Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:

I agree.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

The last I checked, Apple stock was up quite a bit, over $200 now. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 12:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

It was yesterday, June 10th, at 10 AM Pacific.

You can watch it at this link:

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi,everyone,

 

What time will this be held?  I'm looking forward to listening to the WWDC 
about the new phones that are coming out.

 

Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Jun 11, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Chela Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first 
model to use the M chips?  I think it is.

I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.

If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a 
great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 
if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance 
and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your 
sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your 
life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description 
(1932-2009)

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
<https://www.turner42.com> 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
    Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the 
AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for 
one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to 
my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long 
mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 
announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full 
AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end 
up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these 
on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include 
all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 
updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new 
year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that 
the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so 
for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of 
course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more 
functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot 
of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphon

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

It was only software updates no new products announced.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 9:16 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:It was yesterday, June 10th, at 10 AM Pacific.You can watch it at this link:https://www.apple.com/apple-events/   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther LevegnaleSent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:56 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Hi,everyone, What time will this be held?  I'm looking forward to listening to the WWDC about the new phones that are coming out. Thanks. EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 11, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Chela Robles <cdrobles...@gmail.com> wrote:I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> wrote:I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet re

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

It was yesterday, June 10th, at 10 AM Pacific.

You can watch it at this link:

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Esther 
Levegnale
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2024 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Hi,everyone,

 

What time will this be held?  I'm looking forward to listening to the WWDC 
about the new phones that are coming out.

 

Thanks.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Jun 11, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Chela Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M 
chips?  I think it is.

I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.

If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in 
deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is 
good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Chela Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone






On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”

Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.t

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi,everyone,What time will this be held?  I'm looking forward to listening to the WWDC about the new phones that are coming out.Thanks.EstherSent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 11, 2024, at 11:42 AM, Chela Robles  wrote:I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways. Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving

Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

I believe the 15 series is the first one to offer the M chip.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 11, 2024, at 8:07 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M chips?  I think it is.I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela RoblesSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long <dennisl1...@gmail.com> wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways. Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656886BFAF73A7000DAB3E8C7C62%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

I kind of figured that, but was hoping.  Is the 15 the first model to use the M 
chips?  I think it is.

I’m too lazy to go searching for that info right now.

If in the fall when the 16 comes out, if my carrier offers a great trade-in 
deal on my 13 pro, I might update to the 15 pro, or even the 16 if the offer is 
good enough.  I won’t be holding my breath though, .

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chela 
Robles
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is 
gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be 
getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge 
since I have an iPhone 14.

Sent from my iPhone





On Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”

Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Chela Robles]

Well, I got an email from Apple today and it looks like all the AI stuff is gonna be on all of the iPhone 15 models, not series 14. So I for one won’t be getting any major update as far as seeing anything with AI as to my knowledge since I have an iPhone 14.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 10, 2024, at 8:36 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:I agree. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard WeitzelSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI development and we'll benefit greatly from it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Cristóbal MuñozSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways. Best regards,Sieghard -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB5656886BFAF73A7000DAB3E8C7C62%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/4CEF7E18-60B1-43E2-9350-2EAE1B519D3C%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, p

RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Dennis Long]

I agree.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
 
We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
 
I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.
 
On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
 
After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Joseph hudson]

I'll definitely have to go on their website tonight and relist to it. Been out 
of town and away from my desk all day. So have to see what they said for sure.

> On Jun 10, 2024, at 1:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce 
> how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing 
> to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word 
> Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to 
> not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll 
> hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I 
> thought it was a bit of a let down anyways.
>  
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>  
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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

We all know what Siri is like right now, but with full AI integration I have a 
feeling we may all be surprised how amazing it may end up being; of course from 
the little I heard this will not be one of these on/off moments where as soon 
as iOs 18 is released in September it will include all of what it will have a 
year from now and after the main .1, .2 and .3 updates which typically happen 
in Late October, before Christmas or in the new year and again in early March. 
And then of course it is my understanding that the true Apple Intelligence will 
require at least an iPhone 15 Pro or later so for many of us it may be years 
before we experience it all and by then of course even more powerful hardware 
and advances in AI will even add more functionality. One thing I am sure of is 
that in the next years we'll see a lot of cool stuff around all the AI 
development and we'll benefit greatly from it.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 12:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com<mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

Agreed, Cristóbal.

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Cristóbal Muñoz
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Subject: RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> Sent from my 
iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
 
After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to 
announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was 
disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not 
hear the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple 
decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented 
and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but 
I thought it was a bit of a let down anyways.
 
Best regards,
Sieghard
 
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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Carolyn Arnold]

I just checked Apple stock, and it was down slightly. I wonder if others had 
some question about what was said today. 

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Subject: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I literally asked Siri this morning what time was the WWDC keynote and I got 
one of those generic “”this is what I found on the web.”
Whatever they do or don’t’ do with Siri, it can’t be as bad as it is X years 
later than when it was introduced. Just one hot useless mess.
 
Cristóbal
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2024 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement
 
We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:
 
After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard already addressed that in answer to someone else.

Today’s Keynote, but he stopped when they started talking about the Mac.

He didn’t have time to keep listening as he has a business to run…

 

 

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Dude, what WWDC were you watching? 

 

Cheers,

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Khalil Gibran.

 

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Subject: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

 

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[leobado1982]

Dude, what WWDC were you watching? 

 

Cheers,

Leo Bado.

 

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for those who understand us enslave something in us.

Khalil Gibran.

 

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Subject: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sieghard,

In fact,after the Mac when they started into the new “Apple Intelligence” 
stuff, they got into detail about the new things coming to Siri.

I’m not clear if most of that is only on devices using the M chips or not.  I’m 
sure those details will be clear soon.

 

 

 

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OK, guess I have to watch this again tonight. I stopped when they started 
talking about Mac OS, anyways, I wouldn't have had enough time to listen to the 
entire thing now anyways. I guess not all is lost then!

 

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Subject: Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

 

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com <mailto:tai.toma...@gmail.com> 

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all 
about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a 
bit of a let down anyways.

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

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RE: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Sieghard Weitzel]

OK, guess I have to watch this again tonight. I stopped when they started 
talking about Mac OS, anyways, I wouldn't have had enough time to listen to the 
entire thing now anyways. I guess not all is lost then!

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Tomasi
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We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just 
separated it.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
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Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how 
Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to 
listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear the word Siri 
or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go 
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Re: Today's WWDC keynote and iOS 18 announcement

[Tai Tomasi]

We are currently into a whole new section where they talk about AI. They just separated it.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Jun 10, 2024, at 2:08 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







After all the hipe in the tech media about how Apple was going to announce how Siri in iOS 18 would be deeply integrated with AI, it was disappointing to listen to the section about iOS 18 and to my knowledge not hear
 the word Siri or AI even once. Of course this could still mean that Apple decided to not go into this because maybe it's not yet ready to be presented and we'll hear all about it when the new iPhones are released in September, but I thought it was a bit of
 a let down anyways.
 
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