RE: Blind square list?

[Richard Turner]

If writing their support didn’t help, go to the groups.io web site and search 
for BlindSquare.  That is where the group is now hosted.
It seems to be a very quiet group.



Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andrew 
J. LaPointe
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind square list?

Thank you Richard.  Andy and Shubert

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Blind square list?


Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com<mailto:supp...@blindsquare.com>





Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Aug 16, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe 
mailto:alapoint...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list.  Thanks
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
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RE: Blind square list?

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

Thank you Richard.  Andy and Shubert

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 1:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square list?

 

Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com <mailto:supp...@blindsquare.com> 

 

 

 

 

Richard

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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

 

On Aug 16, 2020, at 10:41 AM, Andrew J. LaPointe  
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Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list.  Thanks
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
Friends of the Salem Council on Aging
34 Raymond Ave.
Salem, MA. 01970
Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: Blind square list?

[Richard Turner]

Try writing them atsupp...@blindsquare.com




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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
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wrote:

Hello All, does Blind square still have list to subscribe to?  I have a few
things that have changed with the App that I need to ask their list.  Thanks
so much.  Andy and Shubert

Andrew J. LaPointe, President
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34 Raymond Ave.
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Home: 978-745-4289 cell: 978-578-0185

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

Could you send an address you have tried so I can check to see if I can 
duplicate the issue?




Richard
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 11:01 AM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone  wrote:


thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every 
confidence it would work.

Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search 
that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for 
some reason the search engine cannot find them.
so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior.

Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me.

Best, Keith

On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




Richard
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On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

['Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone]

thanks very much, Richard. With your advice, I went into BlindSquare with every 
confidence it would work.

Much to my chagrin, the well-established addresses I entered reveal a search 
that cannot find those addresses. I know these are existing addresses, but for 
some reason the search engine cannot find them.
so, I deleted the app and reinstalled. I experienced the same behavior.

Do you have any other suggestions? This is most strange to me.

Best, Keith

On Feb 3, 2020, at 7:53 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

 You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

I found the below in the settings help. Somewhere in there is a restore my 
places in the Other menu I think.
If someone knows more I hope they'll chime in.
you use iCloud, BlindSquare will save your settings to iCloud and they will be 
synchronized between your devices. If you are using BlindSquare on several 
devices, it will suffice to select your preferred settings on one device, 
because they will be shared between all of your devices connected to the same 
iCloud account.




Richard
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 7:07 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  wrote:


I had to delete it and re-install and now I’m having no issues. It’s working 
but all of my previous locations I had within the app are all gone.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.



Richard
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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO) 
mailto:lau...@michigan.gov>> wrote:

Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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RE: Blind Square

[Laury, Shawnese (LEO)]

I had to delete it and re-install and now I’m having no issues. It’s working 
but all of my previous locations I had within the app are all gone.
Thanks

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 8:58 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.



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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO) 
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Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
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Suite 4-450
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Re: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

First, make sure everything is out of the app switcher.
Reboot your phone.
If that still happens, you may have to delete and redownload the app.




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On Feb 4, 2020, at 5:37 AM, Laury, Shawnese (LEO)  wrote:


Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?
Thanks

Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC
Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor
Bureau of Services for Blind Persons
Cadillac Place
3038 W. Grand Blvd
Suite 4-450
Detroit, MI 48202
313-456-3289 (o)
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Re: Blind Square

[Alex Stone]

It doesn’t happen to me, I used it to find a bus stop about ten minutes ago, 
and it worked fine.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Laury, 
Shawnese (LEO) 
Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2020 1:37:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Blind Square


Since updating to the most recent IOS update anytime I try opening blind square 
it automatically closes out and takes me back to the home page of my phone. Is 
this happening to anyone else? Does anyone know how to fix this?

Thanks



Shawnese Laury, MA, CRC, LLPC

Vocational Rehabilitation Counselor

Bureau of Services for Blind Persons

Cadillac Place

3038 W. Grand Blvd

Suite 4-450

Detroit, MI 48202

313-456-3289 (o)

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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

You do not need to go into settings, first. Just use the search button in the 
top left.
Then, once you have your destination found, double tap on it and then flick to 
simulate location.
Also, BTW, the search radius is for when you use a category like my places, 
food, etc.




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On Feb 3, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Marie  wrote:

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to the 
best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then enter the 
area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is not 
the same as you would use in the simulation mode.
I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via 
VIPhone
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Richard Turner]

On the first screen of Blind Square, find the search button in the top left, 
not the my places search, but the plain search button.
Enter the address, for example, I'm in Oregon, I put in a made up address, 500 
Broadway, New York City, NY
And found one place over 2 thousand miles away, I flicked right to that search 
result and double tapped.
Then, flick right until you get to Simulate this location and double tap.
You do not have to add it to My Places first.
HTH,




Richard
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On Feb 3, 2020, at 4:03 PM, 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening screen 
top left search field, I get a message that the search location is not within 
the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to figure out a 
way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[Marie]

I have not used this feature for some time so this may not be true, but to 
the best of my memory, you need to go into the simulation first and then 
enter the area you wish to simulate.
In setting you have set a search criteria around you for searching so it is 
not the same as you would use in the simulation mode.

I hope this works.
Marie


-Original Message- 
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone

Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 4:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?


hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot 
figure it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route
The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in the opening 
screen top left search field, I get a message that the search location is 
not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot seem to 
figure out a way around this.


Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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I'm also interested in this answer: RE: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my places so that I can simulate a route?

[territek]

I have an additional question as well. I like to go out for treks with my 
Seeing Eye dog through my neighborhood, which has the same start and end point 
(home). I want to explore routes through my area at home before I go out 
walking. 
Best,
Terri Hedgpeth

-Original Message-
From: 'Kramlinger, Keith G. (Keith G.), M.D.' via VIPhone 
 
Sent: Monday, February 3, 2020 5:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: blind square help please. How do I enter a distant location into my 
places so that I can simulate a route?

hi,
I am trying to enter a distant location into the my places portion of blind 
square so I can do a simulation of a route.
I have read and reread the help section several times, and I just cannot figure 
it out.
can someone please explain to me, from the opening screen of BlindSquare, 
exactly what I must do in a step-by-step fashion in order to enter a distant 
location and then simulate the route?
my understanding is that I need to add a location into my places. From my 
places, I am pretty sure I can go to the actions button and then click on 
simulator route The problem is, when I enter the distant location address in 
the opening screen top left search field, I get a message that the search 
location is not within the defined 1 mile radius of my places section. I cannot 
seem to figure out a way around this.

Any help will be most appreciated. Best, Keith

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Re: Blind square

[Marie]

It is important to remember that when Blind Square gives you the distance to 
the next cross street, it is giving the distance from the middle of the street, 
not the curb. This is, I believe due to the fact of the GPS systems being 
intended for automobiles and not pedestrians.
Marie


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Blind square

James, GPS accuracy varies widely; so you could be 30 feet from a cross street 
or 100.
If the streets are on the map, it should announce them, but some smaller 
streets, paths, are not on maps, so without actually walking the route, no one 
can say if everything will be announced.But, the following information from the 
Blind Square help may give you some idea of what to try.
When BlindSquare announces your distance to an intersection, it uses the center 
of the intersection as a reference point. This means that the width of the 
street also determines how soon you hear the BlindSquare intersection 
announcement before you reach the curb. If you live in an area where the 
streets are narrow, you may find that BlindSquare announces intersections too 
early, whereas in an area where streets are particularly wide, intersections 
may be announced too late. If the default medium setting of this option does 
not work to your satisfaction, try using the Long setting if streets in your 
area are wide or Short if streets are very narrow. 




Richard 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 



  On Sep 16, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


   
  Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
  Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Blind square

   

  Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills. 

  Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.

  Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; 
while Apple Maps tells you when to turn.

  I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business 
names etc when I really just want to know the streets.

  Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.

  HTH,

   

  Richard 

   

  Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

   





On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English  wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:



  Could be very interesting; thank you.

   

  Karen

  At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a

lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own

points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the

latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows

you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money

reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots

and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app

worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of

the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which

became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can

subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full

version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.

However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US

and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New

Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South

America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the

Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as

African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for

those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest

denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and

they also offer a 2-week free trial.

I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy

if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to

distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of

the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian

Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was

   

Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

James, GPS accuracy varies widely; so you could be 30 feet from a cross street 
or 100.
If the streets are on the map, it should announce them, but some smaller 
streets, paths, are not on maps, so without actually walking the route, no one 
can say if everything will be announced.But, the following information from the 
Blind Square help may give you some idea of what to try.
When BlindSquare announces your distance to an intersection, it uses the center 
of the intersection as a reference point. This means that the width of the 
street also determines how soon you hear the BlindSquare intersection 
announcement before you reach the curb. If you live in an area where the 
streets are narrow, you may find that BlindSquare announces intersections too 
early, whereas in an area where streets are particularly wide, intersections 
may be announced too late. If the default medium setting of this option does 
not work to your satisfaction, try using the Long setting if streets in your 
area are wide or Short if streets are very narrow.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Larry Lumpkin  wrote:


Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,

Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6

RE: Blind square

[Larry Lumpkin]

Blindsquare doesn’t have intersection analysis yet. It is something I have 
lobbying for for years.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2019 8:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

 

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills. 

Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.

Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.

I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.

Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.

HTH,

 

Richard 

 

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2. 

 





On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English mailto:james13engl...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



Could be very interesting; thank you.

 

Karen

At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a

lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own

points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the

latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows

you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money

reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots

and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app

worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of

the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which

became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can

subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full

version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.

However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US

and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New

Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South

America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the

Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as

African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for

those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest

denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and

they also offer a 2-week free trial.

I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy

if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to

distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of

the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian

Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was

using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used

automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the

bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an

angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if

you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the

back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set

vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:

 

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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

What I guess I mean is how accurate is it? When blind square says
street is right in front of me, am I right at the curb, or will their
be slight turns and tiny side streets that aren't spoken?

On 9/17/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do
> not know your cane skills.
> Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
> Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing;
> while Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
> I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business
> names etc when I really just want to know the streets.
> Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the
> turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
> HTH,
>
>
> Richard
>
> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English 
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
> busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
> house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
> blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
> course.
>
> - James
>
> On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
> I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
> lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
> points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
> latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
> you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
> reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
> and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
> worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
> the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
> became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
> subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
> version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
> However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
> and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
> Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
> America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
> Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
> African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
> those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
> denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
> they also offer a 2-week free trial.
> I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
> if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
> distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
> the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
> Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
> using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
> automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
> bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
> angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
> you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
> back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
> vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>
> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fcash-reader-bill-identifier%2Fid1344802905data=02%7C01%7C%7Ced598d27e03e4fa3da0c08d73aefdde8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637042674195202727sdata=RwOUs1VuFkZA1AvROTXJN4kMKfT9AdPIy7SkWsLc2QI%3Dreserved=0
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

Well, nobody should say whether the apps can get you home safely since we do 
not know your cane skills.
Can they assist you in getting there; absolutely.
Blind Square can speak the street names that you are coming to/crossing; while 
Apple Maps tells you when to turn.
I set blind square to streets only so I'm not hearing a bunch of business names 
etc when I really just want to know the streets.
Apple Maps or Google maps can be launched from Blind square to do the 
turn-by-turn portion of the directions.
HTH,


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 16, 2019, at 2:50 PM, James English  wrote:

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
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Re: Blind square

[James English]

Hi,

How useful is blindsquare in an unfamiliar place, especially a very
busy one? If I am in say, the royal mile, and want to walk back to my
house around 1.5 miles away (I have no clue of the directions), could
blindsquare and apple maps get me there safely? With a cane, of
course.

- James

On 9/16/19, 'Karen Delzer' via VIPhone  wrote:
> Could be very interesting; thank you.
>
> Karen
> At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a
>>lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own
>>points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the
>>latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows
>>you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money
>>reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots
>>and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app
>>worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of
>>the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which
>>became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can
>>subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full
>>version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
>>However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US
>>and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New
>>Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South
>>America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the
>>Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as
>>African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for
>>those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest
>>denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and
>>they also offer a 2-week free trial.
>>I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy
>>if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to
>>distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of
>>the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian
>>Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was
>>using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used
>>automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the
>>bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an
>>angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if
>>you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the
>>back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set
>>vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:
>>
>>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905
>>
>>Regards,
>>Sieghard
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RE: Blind square

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Could be very interesting; thank you.

Karen
At 04:47 PM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a 
lot of information about what is around you, you can record your own 
points and it even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the 
latest update you can tap on a button called "Lense" and it allows 
you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I don't often require a money 
reader because in Canada all the bills are marked with braille dots 
and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing AI app 
worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of 
the water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which 
became Nand Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can 
subscribe monthly or annually or get a lifetime license for the full 
version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US 
and Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New 
Zealand Dollars to pretty much everything from central and South 
America, many European currencies from countries which aren't on the 
Euro like some of the Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as 
African currencies. You would need to purchase the full version for 
those, I think the free version only supports only the two lowest 
denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 and $10 bills and 
they also offer a 2-week free trial.
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy 
if I go to the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to 
distinguish their many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of 
the supported currencies. I tried it with a couple of Canadian 
Dollar bills and I think by that time it was pretty dark so it was 
using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used 
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the 
bill by the camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an 
angle... it was actually quite impressive. You can also select if 
you want to use the front or back camera, by default it uses the 
back camera and for those who are hard of hearing you can even set 
vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a link for the app:


https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905

Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: Blind square

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I also quite like the app Righthear which is free and it gives you a lot of 
information about what is around you, you can record your own points and it 
even has built-in turn by turn directions. In the latest update you can tap on 
a button called "Lense" and it allows you to open Be My Eyes or Cash Reader. I 
don't often require a money reader because in Canada all the bills are marked 
with braille dots and I always thought the money reader channel in the Seeing 
AI app worked quite well, but this Cash Reader app blows everything out of the 
water I have yet tried including the old Money Reader app which became Nand 
Money reader. It is, however, not free, you can subscribe monthly or annually 
or get a lifetime license for the full version for $24.99 Canadian, in the US 
it is $17.99.
However, it supports dozens of currencies from the big ones like US and 
Canadian Dollars to Euros, British Pounds, Australian and New Zealand Dollars 
to pretty much everything from central and South America, many European 
currencies from countries which aren't on the Euro like some of the 
Scandinavian countries, many Asian as well as African currencies. You would 
need to purchase the full version for those, I think the free version only 
supports only the two lowest denominations, here in Canada that would be the $5 
and $10 bills and they also offer a 2-week free trial. 
I decided to simply buy it because I thought it could come in handy if I go to 
the Philippines where my wife is from, there is no way to distinguish their 
many Philippine Peso bills and it is also one of the supported currencies. I 
tried it with a couple of Canadian Dollar bills and I think by that time it was 
pretty dark so it was using the phone's flashlight which you can set to be used 
automatically if it's two dark and almost any which way I waved the bill by the 
camera it recognized it instantly, front, back, on an angle... it was actually 
quite impressive. You can also select if you want to use the front or back 
camera, by default it uses the back camera and for those who are hard of 
hearing you can even set vibrations patterns for the different bills. Here is a 
link for the app:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cash-reader-bill-identifier/id1344802905

Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Blind square

['Karen Delzer' via VIPhone]

Yah, wish they'd named it something else. Puts me 
in mind of creepy things I'd rather not think about.


Karen
At 06:13 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:

I̢۪ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile



investment indeed! Not only it̢۪s for GPS



and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry 
Lumpkin <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of 
days ago. As to cost. I think it is well worth 
the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, Iâ€â„„¢d gladly pay it.



From: 
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On Behalf Of Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:38 PM
To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind square

<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright 
<<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:



I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I just don't have any real need in my life for GPS at the moment.  I'm
selling my victor trek which is something I never should have bought.

On 9/15/19, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> I'm not sure how it works with BlindSquare, but with Swarm, just like
> any social media service, you can determine who sees where you check in.
>
>
> On 9/15/19 8:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
>> Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
>> Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can
>> see where you are, which doesn't interest me at all.
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>
>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
>>>
>>> Swarm???
>>> At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>>>> I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not
>>>> only it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm
>>>> through it!
>>>>
>>>> Gera
>>>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>>>>
>>>> El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin
>>>> <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I
>>>>> think it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40
>>>>> by now, I’d gladly pay it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> <<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:38 PM
>>>>> To: <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Blind square
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fblindsquare%2Fid500557255data=02%7C01%7C%7C4556cf018e02423a912308d739de7470%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637041499902465065sdata=zJ5pcb0cC76B076HYOj1sf0xcqi8%2BhgZMfh%2B9im%2BQlI%3Dreserved=0>https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fblindsquare%2Fid500557255data=02%7C01%7C%7C4556cf018e02423a912308d739de7470%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637041499902475070sdata=88uktQrLrg819ywzbC%2FhFocSNfuNjfKuOSm2e%2F8m8OQ%3Dreserved=0
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard
>>>>>
>>>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright
>>>>> <<mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com>yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.
>>>>>
>>>>> **
>>>>> Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
>>>>> the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what
>>>>> if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't
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[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure how it works with BlindSquare, but with Swarm, just like 
any social media service, you can determine who sees where you check in.



On 9/15/19 8:15 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can 
see where you are, which doesn't interest me at all.



Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.



On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not 
only it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm 
through it!


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
<<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I 
think it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 
by now, I’d gladly pay it.



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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Gerardo Corripio]

Swarm is what used to be FourSquare; you can Checkin places you go to etc. YOu 
can use this through BlindSquare.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:13 a. m., Ann Byrne  escribió:

> Swarm???
> At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
>> I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only 
>> it’s for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
>> El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
>> <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:
>> 
>>> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think 
>>> it is well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d 
>>> gladly pay it.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Richard Turner
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2019 11:38 PM
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>>> 
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255>https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

I was curious too, so I checked the app store.
Swarm is a Four Square checkin app to track the places you visit.
Because it is Four Square, I suspect that means everyone on Swarm can see where 
you are, which doesn't interest me at all.


Richard

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On Sep 15, 2019, at 6:13 AM, Ann Byrne  wrote:

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only it’s 
for GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin 
<<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:

I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it is 
well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay 
it.


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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

[Ann Byrne]

Swarm???
At 08:04 AM 9/15/2019, you wrote:
I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile 
investment indeed! Not only it’s for GPS 
and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!


Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry 
Lumpkin <<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>llump...@austin.rr.com> escribió:


I just got an app update for it a couple of 
days ago. As to cost. I think it is well worth 
the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay it.



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Richard

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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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Re: Blind square

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I’ve got it too, and yes very worthwhile investment indeed! Not only it’s for 
GPS and/or to orient you, but also you can use Swarm through it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 15 sep 2019, a la(s) 8:02 a. m., Larry Lumpkin  
escribió:

> I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it 
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> pay it.
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> Richard
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RE: Blind square

[Larry Lumpkin]

I just got an app update for it a couple of days ago. As to cost. I think it is 
well worth the $29 I paid and if it has gone up t $40 by now, I’d gladly pay it.

 

 

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https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 

 

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I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

 

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Re: Blind square

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I just did a siri search for blind square app store and I found it.
I'm not paying $40  for it though.

On 9/15/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
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Re: Blind square

[Richard Turner]

i found it by searching for blindsquare written as one word.
Did you search with two words?
Not sure why it doesn't show if written as two words.


Richard

Always look out for #1, and be careful not to step in #2.


On Sep 15, 2019, at 1:25 AM, Robert Wright  wrote:


My wife sent it to me. I just don’t understand why it didn’t show even when I 
searched for the word Blind.

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crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!  












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On Sep 14, 2019, at 7:17 PM, Robert Wright  wrote:

I tried to reload blind Square and could not find it any where.

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RE: Blind square

[Robert Wright]

My wife sent it to me. I just don’t understand why it didn’t show even when I 
searched for the word Blind.

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https://apps.apple.com/us/app/blindsquare/id500557255 

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RE: Blind Square price?

[R Van Lant]

Wayne,
Thanks for mentioning the menus.  I did not know that was a function in Blind 
Square.  

After getting disoriented on a walk with my new guide dog yesterday, I'm even 
more eager to have Blind Square announcing intersections.  Apple maps got me 
home, but I still have no idea where I went astray yesterday and made a wrong 
turn.  



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Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 7:21 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square price?

I bought it when it was $29.99 in January of last year. Though the
price has gone up a little, it is still worth the price. If
BlindSquare offers what you want/need then go for it. I am ever
grateful that I did, since now I can get the intersection information
on my bus ride home, along with menus from many more restaurants than
I've found in other apps.

Wayne

On 3/16/17, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
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> the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
> The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
> Richard
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Re: Blind Square price?

[Wayne Merritt]

I bought it when it was $29.99 in January of last year. Though the
price has gone up a little, it is still worth the price. If
BlindSquare offers what you want/need then go for it. I am ever
grateful that I did, since now I can get the intersection information
on my bus ride home, along with menus from many more restaurants than
I've found in other apps.

Wayne

On 3/16/17, Richard Turner  wrote:
>
> the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
> The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
> Richard
>
>
> On Mar 16, 2017, at 8:22 PM, R Van Lant
> > wrote:
>
> I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it
> had been only $29, but now it’s in the app store for $39.  Anyone know if
> this app goes on sale for the $29 price with any regularity or should I just
> go for it at this higher price?
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Re: Blind Square price?

[Richard Turner]

the old price was 29.99. That was over a year ago I believe.
The regular price is 39.99. I do not recall it being on sale.
Richard


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I finally got a gift certificate to use to buy Blind Square.  I thought it had 
been only $29, but now it’s in the app store for $39.  Anyone know if this app 
goes on sale for the $29 price with any regularity or should I just go for it 
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Re: Blind Square in Italy?

[Andrea Roveretto]

yes ofcourse it wil!

I live in italy and use it.



Il 19/10/2016 18:23, Dulce Muccio Weisenborn ha scritto:


Will Blind Squarework in Italy?

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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Ron]

Hi Chip,

 

Something that probably wouldn’t help you right now but, the software 
engineering students at McGill university in Montreal have put together an app 
using Google maps.  Right now it is still only for the Montreal area as a test 
but is going across Canada in the next month or so.  It is called “Autour” 
which is the French word for “Around”, but the app is in English.  I very much 
like its radar mode witch, with off ear headphone such as the Treks give a 
constant beep or click going around 360º with the user at the center point.  
This is on request.  Also, if the phone is lifted horizontally, it 
automatically goes into beam mode which will announce what’s around and where 
as the user turns the phone around.

 

The ideal way to wear it is in a pouch around the neck with the phone pointing 
down and the screen away from the chest.  When the phone is lifted, the top of 
the phone becomes the direction of the points of interest.  If the user doesn’t 
like the click or beep of the radar mode, it can be turned down so low you 
can’t hear it but the voice announcing the point of interest comes from its 
direction.  So, if it announces a bus stop that is on your left, the voice 
announcing it comes from the left and so on.

 

I think it is an app that has a lot of potential.  I have been testing this app 
for the professor working with the students.  I will ask him if he plans to 
open it to all of North America anytime soon and if there are any plans of 
going worldwide.

 

Don’t know if it is easier to find now but it was a bit of a problem finding it 
in the app store.  In case you would like to look at it, try Autour in the 
search field and, if you don’t find it, you will by entering McGill in the 
field and going through all the apps until you find it. 

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chip Orange
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 11:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Chip Orange]

Hi Wayne,

Well, I find you can get just as good menu info (including from Four Square) 
from the free app "All Access".

Chip


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2016 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>
>
>
>
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

Anytime. Also, the Tips button can often have good information too.
This pulls tips from FourSquare and can vary depending on what people
include; anything from, "This place sucks and has horrible service,"
to, "I loved the tacos!" If you want to get an idea of what's good or
find some hidden goodness in the menu or restaurant atmosphere, then
the tips can be very helpful.

Have fun,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
> Awesome, thanks Wayne.  It is starting to make a little more sense then.
>  when navigating various places, I kept hearing VoiceOver say "Tip" and
> wondered what the hell it was referring to.  While exploring one of the
> restaurant's summary page, while looking for the infamous "Menu" button,
> I came across the "Tip" button, and made the connection.  So if I
> navigate restaurants and VoiceOver says "Menu", then I'll know that this
> restaurant has a menu.
>
> Thanks again and have a wonderful day!
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/07/19 9:33 AM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
> which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
> for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
> forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
> activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
> to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
> corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
> on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
> place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
> you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
> results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
> restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.
>
> Good luck,
> Wayne
>
> On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca>
> wrote:
>> Hi Wayne,
>>
>> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
>> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare
> and
>> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
>> would say "Menu" or something?
>>
>>
>> From:Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
>> To:  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date:2016/07/18 5:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you
> can
>> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
>> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
>> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway
> menu
>> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
>> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
>> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go
> to
>> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
>> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
>> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
>> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are,
> whereas
>> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
>> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>>
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
>> company
>>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note
> products).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a
> yearly
>> fee, and
>>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>>
>>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chip
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
&

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Awesome, thanks Wayne.  It is starting to make a little more sense then.
 when navigating various places, I kept hearing VoiceOver say "Tip" and
wondered what the hell it was referring to.  While exploring one of the
restaurant's summary page, while looking for the infamous "Menu" button,
I came across the "Tip" button, and made the connection.  So if I
navigate restaurants and VoiceOver says "Menu", then I'll know that this
restaurant has a menu.

Thanks again and have a wonderful day!


From:   Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date:   2016/07/19 9:33 AM
Subject:Re: Blind Square and Four Square

Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca>
wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare
and
> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
> would say "Menu" or something?
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/07/18 5:45 PM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you
can
> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway
menu
> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go
to
> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are,
whereas
> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
> company
>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note
products).
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a
yearly
> fee, and
>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>
>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com 
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which
used
> Google
>> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
> available (I
>> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
>> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
> developer if
>> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very
small,
> so
>> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
> never had
>> to pay anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
> (I did
>> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
> would be a
>> big improvement.

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

Greetings. You got it. Once you bring up the place summary screen,
which has information such as the address, phone number, and buttons
for various things like the website, tips from FourSquare, and so
forth; keep swiping through and there will be a Menu button. Once you
activate this after a short delay the menu will come up. To get back
to the place summary screen hit the back button in the upper left
corner. If you like the restaurant, you can toggle the Favorite button
on in the place summary screen. There's a lot of information on the
place summary screen so it pays to go through and explore. Also, if
you do a search for restaurants, when going through the search
results, BlindSquare will announce if there is a menu for a
restaurant. If there's not a menu then it will not be announced.

Good luck,
Wayne

On 7/19/16, Daniel L. Gervais <daniel.l.gerv...@inspection.gc.ca> wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
> assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare and
> that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
> would say "Menu" or something?
>
>
> From: Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
> To:   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: 2016/07/18 5:45 PM
> Subject:  Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
> access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
> BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
> what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
> I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
> restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
> pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
> other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
> menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
> functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
> is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
> Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
> BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.
>
> Wayne
>
> On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
> company
>> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>>
>>
>>
>> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly
> fee, and
>> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>>
>> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of englishride...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ari
>>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>
>> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used
> Google
>> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
> available (I
>> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
>> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
> developer if
>> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small,
> so
>> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
> never had
>> to pay anything.
>>
>>
>>
>> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
> (I did
>> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
> would be a
>> big improvement.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>>
>>
>>
>> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile
> away
>> from the actual location.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2

Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Daniel L. Gervais]

Hi Wayne,

Quick question, how do you find the menus through BlindSquare?  I am
assuming that you would double tap on the place within BlindSquare and
that there would be a button within the restaurant summary page that
would say "Menu" or something?


From:   Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date:   2016/07/18 5:45 PM
Subject:    Re: Blind Square and Four Square

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some
company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly
fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com 
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used
Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely
available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app
developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small,
so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I
never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data
(I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it
would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile
away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in
smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need
to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four
square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to
have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into
a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so
don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[Wayne Merritt]

The one big advantage with Blind Square and FourSquare is that you can
access menus from various restaurants and fast food places through
BlindSquare. That menu data is pulled directly from FourSquare from
what I understand. It can vary in quality, where with the Subway menu
I get a listing of all of their sandwiches, but with other
restaurants, the menus are very comprehensive. And some menus I've
pulled up in BlindSquare just list a few things. However, when I go to
other locations of the same restaurant I can get more of an actual
menu. Though you can "check in" to places with BlindSquare, that
functionality has been split off from the FourSquare app. FourSquare
is more about keeping up with where your friends/follwers are, whereas
Swarm is for checking in, in case anyone cares. Anyway, I've had
BlindSquare since January and haven't regretted the $30 cost.

Wayne

On 7/17/16, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company
> like that (at least they did for their other braille note products).
>
>
>
> I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and
> I didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.
>
> However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of englishride...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ari
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS
> receiver).  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if
> you have a high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so
> charging a little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had
> to pay anything.
>
>
>
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did
> in my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a
> big improvement.
>
>
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away
> from the actual location.
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>
>
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to
> allow people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>
>
>
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square
> business info.
>
>
>
> Chip
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a
> place if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much
> about it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>
>
>
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>
>
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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

[Chip Orange]

It might … but I thought they bought map data from NavTech or some company like 
that (at least they did for their other braille note products).

 

I don’t know enough about them, but I thought they charged a yearly fee, and I 
didn’t want to own them like that if that was the case.

However, I am really disappointed in Blind Square so far.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
englishride...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2016 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.

 

 

Thanks,

Ari


On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

[englishrider91]

Doesn't Seeing Eye GPS use Google Maps data? I thought it did.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 8:33 AM, Chip Orange <lists3...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
> map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
> wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver). 
>  Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
> high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a 
> little something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay 
> anything.
>  
> Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
> my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
> improvement.
>  
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square
>  
> In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away 
> from the actual location.
> Andy
>  
> From: Chip Orange
> Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
> And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns 
> which may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow 
> people who are blind to submit corrections somehow.
>  
> Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
> business info.
>  
> Chip
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square
>  
> Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
> square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
> if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
> it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square and Four Square
>  
> What are the advantages of using these two apps together?
>  
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[Chip Orange]

I really wish we had a blind-friendly navigational GPS app which used Google 
map data; I don’t know why we don’t, the Google data is freely available (I 
wrote such an app for laptops running Window-Eyes, which had a GPS receiver).  
Yes, there could be a charge from Google to the app developer if you have a 
high enough volume of data queries, but it was very small, so charging a little 
something for the app should easily cover it.  I never had to pay anything.

 

Google would also give you all the POIs as well as the mapping data (I did in 
my app), so you would not have to use four square.  I think it would be a big 
improvement.

 

 

Chip

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 10:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square and Four Square

 

In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.

Andy

 

From: Chip Orange <mailto:lists3...@comcast.net>  

Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 6:03 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square and Four Square

 

Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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Dulce Muccio Weisenborn
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2016 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square and Four Square

 

What are the advantages of using these two apps together?

 


 
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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

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In my area i have seen 4square POIs that were as much as half a mile away from 
the actual location.
Andy

From: Chip Orange 
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And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

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Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
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if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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And I have to say it’s map data isn’t all that accurate in smaller towns which 
may not have a lot of OSM volunteers to correct it.  They need to allow people 
who are blind to submit corrections somehow.

 

Try Arriadne GPS for more accurate mapping data, but without the four square 
business info.

 

Chip

 

 

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Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
square account to use blindsquare but I think it helps you check into a place 
if you wish.  I don’t use the internals of 4 square so don’t know much about 
it.  Blindsquare uses open street maps for it’s map data.

 

 

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Re: Blind Square and Four Square

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None really, unless you are into playing the games.

Andy

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RE: Blind Square and Four Square

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Blindsquare uses 4 square’s database of pois.  You don’t have to have a 4 
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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Pinky]

Do these headset work with people that are severe hard of hearing and wear 
hearing aids?
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Sent: Friday, April 08, 2016 10:39 AM
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Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>
>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Wayne Merritt]

I like having BlindSquare in one earbud since part of my daily trip
home has me riding on the bus and I don't want to disturb other
passengers. Plus, I can listen to tunes while I'm getting information
from BlindSquare. The problem I have with bone conduction headphones
is most of the ones I have looked at, don't fit my large head. And
they are not adjustable like headphones. I do also take the earbud out
before crossing streets.

As stated earlier though, different strokes for different folks.

Wayne

On 4/8/16, Jim Ruby  wrote:
> I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange
> environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and
> only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along
> with google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough
> options. I will say that having it distinguish what side of the street you
> and or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in
> the future?
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Dianne B. Phelps
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
>
>
>
> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high
> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that
> I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near
> enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is
> telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with
> my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going
> on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>
>
>
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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

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I have to agree, but I just don’t travel as much as I use to in strange 
environments so just can’t justify it for only two to three times a week and 
only if I get off course.. Blind square wor4ks very well for me and along with 
google maps, apple maps and navigin spelled wrong I think I have enough 
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or places are on would be great. Wonder if blind square could do this in the 
future?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dianne B. Phelps
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

 

I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high for 
this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that I 
can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near enough to 
my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is telling me. I am 
afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide 
because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This 
has been my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to hold 
the de ice where I can hear it. 

 

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RE: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

Why not use Blind Square with a bone conduction headset? Your ears are totally 
free to hear your traffic while still hearing Blind Square on both sides. Your 
phone can then be held in any carrier.

Ron & Danvers
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and 
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are getting 
information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and this setup has 
worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> high for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My 
>> problem is that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will 
>> place the phone near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can 
>> truly hear what it is telling me. I am afraid to use my special 
>> Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide because, I still 
>> must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This has been 
>> my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
>> work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no longer hae a hand free to 
>> hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>
>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

I didn't like the comfort of those headphones. Great idea though.Regards,
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 6:59 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.
> 
> Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
> purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
> bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.
> 
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>> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
>> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
>> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
>>> remove the ear bud when crossing streets.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Feliciano
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>>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dianne,
>>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>>> >
>>> > Wayne
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone >>> 
>>> >>> too high
>>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> >>> >>> is
>>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the >>> 
>>> >>> phone
>>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> >>> >>> it
>>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which >>> 
>>> >>> comes
>>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and >>> 
>>> >>> what is
>>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these >>> 
>>> >>> navigational
>>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> >>> >>> no
>>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Andy Baracco]

This is why I have the Aftershokz Bluez 2.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Feliciano Godoy

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2016 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't 
purchased one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too 
bad it doesn't work with the iPhone.


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On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne <ann...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.

At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i 
remove the ear bud when crossing streets.


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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps <d.bphe...@comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone 
>>> too high
>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem 
>>> is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the 
>>> phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what 
>>> it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which 
>>> comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and 
>>> what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>>> navigational
>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and 
>>> no

>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>>
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

Do you have any recommendations? I have looked into this, but haven't purchased 
one. I like how the trekker breeze has that external speaker. Too bad it 
doesn't work with the iPhone.  

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 5:44 PM, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> 
> You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your collar or somewhere near 
> your ear.  This leaves your ears free and the GPS info available.
> At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
>> I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i remove 
>> the ear bud when crossing streets.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Feliciano
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>> > On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>> >
>> > Dianne,
>> > Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
>> > environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
>> > getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
>> > this setup has worked great for me.
>> >
>> > Wayne
>> >
>> >> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> >> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>> >>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too 
>> >>> high
>> >>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>> >>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>> >>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>> >>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>> >>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>> >>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these 
>> >>> navigational
>> >>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>> >>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>> >>>
>> >>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Ann Byrne]

You can purchase a speaker that will clip to your 
collar or somewhere near your ear.  This leaves 
your ears free and the GPS info available.

At 07:40 PM 4/7/2016, you wrote:
I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. 
For safety reasons, i remove the ear bud when crossing streets.


Regards,
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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price 
for their product has gone too high

>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue 
with most of these navigational

>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>>
>>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Feliciano Godoy]

I too wear one ear bud while using blindsquare. For safety reasons, i remove 
the ear bud when crossing streets. 

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> On Apr 7, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> Dianne,
> Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
> environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
> getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
> this setup has worked great for me.
> 
> Wayne
> 
>> On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
>> They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
>>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high
>>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
>>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
>>> longer hae a hand free to hold the de ice where I can hear it.
>>> 
>>> They are both good products, but difficult for me to use.
>>> 
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Wayne Merritt]

Dianne,
Have you tried wearing earbuds, where one side is open to traffic and
environmental sounds, and the other you have an earbud in and are
getting information from BlindSquare? I wear hearing aids as well and
this setup has worked great for me.

Wayne

On 4/6/16, Sarai Bucciarelli  wrote:
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>> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps 
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>> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is
>> that I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone
>> near enough to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it
>> is telling me. I am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes
>> with my hearing aide because, I still must listen for traffic and what is
>> going on around me. This has been my issue with most of these navigational
>> programs and devices. . I work a guide dog and use a balance cane and no
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Re: Blind Square V. Sendero Seeing Eye.

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

They have a $9.99 a month subscription now for Sendero gps.
> On Apr 6, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Dianne B. Phelps  wrote:
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> I am sorry to say that Sendero’s price for their product has gone too high 
> for this old lady. I do have Blind Square and do Like it. My problem is that 
> I can’t found a pouch or carrying case which will place the phone near enough 
> to my ears and hearing aids so that I can truly hear what it is telling me. I 
> am afraid to use my special Bluetooth device which comes with my hearing aide 
> because, I still must listen for traffic and what is going on around me. This 
> has been my issue with most of these navigational programs and devices. . I 
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> the de ice where I can hear it. 
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Re: Blind square

[Mike Arrigo]

I had this when I launched the app, changed it in teh app settings and it’s 
fine now.
> On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:10 PM, david gross  wrote:
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> Speech very slow since last app update. 
> Have reinstalled, no change.
> Using Iphone 6 plus.
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Re: Blind Square

[Feliciano Godoy]

Some people like to use aftershockz bone conduction headphones. You can Google 
them or find them on Amazon. 

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 Linda,
 
 There is a new product called the
 
 Bem Wireless Bluetooth Speaker Wristband for $39.99 from AT Guys.com and 
 perhaps a couple of dollars cheaper from Amazon.com.  It is a Bluetooth 
 speaker that you wear on your wrist.  It can also make and receive phone 
 calls from your IPhone.  Otherwise, you might want to
 do a computer search for mini speakers, as there are many quality products 
 out there.  Terry
 
 - Original Message - From: Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:18 PM
 Subject: Blind Square
 
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I have recently started using Blind Square. I think it is a great app.
 
 I cannot use a standard Bluetooth ear piece due to my hearing aids. I would
 prefer not to use the Bluetooth in my hearing aids while traveling. There
 are several seconds where traffic sounds are blocked out when information is
 either being updated via Bluetooth or some other type of communication is
 going on between my hearing aids and the phone. I'm wondering whether there
 is a speaker that can be purchased to work with the phone similar to the one
 for the Trekker Breeze. Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Lynda
 
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RE: Blind Square

[Ron Pelletier]

Linda,

Have you considered the After Shokz bone conduction but not the one that is 
blue tooth.  They have a wired model that you can connect to your phone.  That 
way, you could hear your traffic through your hearing aids and your Blind 
Square through the bone conduction.

Just an idea

Ron  Danvers

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Subject: Blind Square

Hi Everyone, 

I have recently started using Blind Square. I think it is a great app. 

I cannot use a standard Bluetooth ear piece due to my hearing aids. I would 
prefer not to use the Bluetooth in my hearing aids while traveling. There are 
several seconds where traffic sounds are blocked out when information is either 
being updated via Bluetooth or some other type of communication is going on 
between my hearing aids and the phone. I'm wondering whether there is a speaker 
that can be purchased to work with the phone similar to the one for the Trekker 
Breeze. Any help would be very much appreciated. 

Thank you, 

Lynda 

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Re: Blind Square

[Chuck Dean]

Hi Linda,
I found this clip on blue tooth speaker on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Hype-Bluetooth-Speaker-Extremely-Portable/dp/B00HE61TYY/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8qid=1439142302sr=8-14keywords=clip+on+speaker

I've never used a Trekker Breeze, but it reminds me of the speaker used by 
the first generation Trekker.

Hope this helps,
Chuck

  

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RE: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
A coworker who is a mobility instructor just got some headphones from Amazon 
that work quite well.
You can wear them as over the ear headphones, or put them around the back of 
your neck and turn the speakers outward just under your ears on your shoulder 
so you can hear them without having the surrounding sounds blocked.
Apparently, they are popular among skate boarders.
I think with shipping they came to about $37.00.  They are called:

Ditmo® SD-288BT Over the ear Stereo Bluetooth Wireless Headphones and Speakers

HTH,
Richard



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Hi Everyone, 

I have recently started using Blind Square. I think it is a great app. 

I cannot use a standard Bluetooth ear piece due to my hearing aids. I would
prefer not to use the Bluetooth in my hearing aids while traveling. There
are several seconds where traffic sounds are blocked out when information is
either being updated via Bluetooth or some other type of communication is
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Thank you, 

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Re: Blind Square

[Terry-Ann Saurmann]

Linda,

There is a new product called the

Bem Wireless Bluetooth Speaker Wristband for $39.99 from AT Guys.com and 
perhaps a couple of dollars cheaper from Amazon.com.  It is a Bluetooth 
speaker that you wear on your wrist.  It can also make and receive phone 
calls from your IPhone.  Otherwise, you might want to
do a computer search for mini speakers, as there are many quality products 
out there.  Terry


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 5:18 PM
Subject: Blind Square


Hi Everyone,

I have recently started using Blind Square. I think it is a great app.

I cannot use a standard Bluetooth ear piece due to my hearing aids. I would
prefer not to use the Bluetooth in my hearing aids while traveling. There
are several seconds where traffic sounds are blocked out when information is
either being updated via Bluetooth or some other type of communication is
going on between my hearing aids and the phone. I'm wondering whether there
is a speaker that can be purchased to work with the phone similar to the one
for the Trekker Breeze. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Lynda

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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

In Blind Square you can adjust how early you want to hear an intersection.  You 
can set it to short medium or long.  The default is medium.

Ron  Danvers
 

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Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having to 
touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only when you 
arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching streets from a 
distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your current address and 
how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the 
seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should 
do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:
 Hello,

 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any 
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
 ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
 looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of 
 purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps 
 for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to 
 take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing 
 Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, 
 but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the 
 current products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Andy Baracco]

I wonder if immediate conditions determine when you get these announcements. 
Yesterday these announcements either came when we were at the intersection, 
or shortly after.


Andy


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Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 9:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

Hi,

In Blind Square you can adjust how early you want to hear an intersection. 
You can set it to short medium or long.  The default is medium.


Ron  Danvers


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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having 
to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only 
when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching 
streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your 
current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn 
directions the way the seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for 
that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year
ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself
looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of
purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps
for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to
take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing
Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare,
but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the
current products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.



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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

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Hi,

You can change the shake phone command to get that information when needed

Ron  Danvers


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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 1:00 PM
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Blindsquare anounse something like this, you have walked 500 meters five 
minutes or something like that. However i'm not shure if there is an oportunity 
to manualy check how far you have walked. ok. there is an step accounter wich 
tell you how many step you have tooken, but as i understand you would like to 
know the distans .


Anne Robertson skrev den 15-06-19 17:19:
 Hello Ann,

 If you look at the settings, you should find a button to open another screen 
 where you select what happens when you shake your iPhone. Shake to read 
 pedometer is what you want.

 I’m a bit vague about how everything else is labelled as I run BlindSquare in 
 French, but they failed to localise that particular button.

 Cheers,

 Anne


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 Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have 
 traveled?  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this announcement 
 is made.

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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

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Hi Sieghard,

Your problem with Blind Square is probably in the fact that you were shaking 
your phone.  Either you had it around your neck and it your phone was bouncing 
around or you were making quick moves with the phone in your hands.  I had a 
friend who had that problem and I turned off her shake phone commands and her 
problem is gone.

Ron  Danvers

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 10:26 AM
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I find how Blindsquare announces stuff very unreliable. Sometimes I walk and it 
suddenly starts to constantly announce how far I travelled as in every few 
seconds and since I have a Seeing-Eye subscription for 3 years at this point I 
have taken Blindsquare off my device. I don't need GPS that often and prefer 
how the Seeing Eye app gives me information. I guess that goes to show how 
subjective this is, just like TTS voices and bluetooth headsets.

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Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:53 AM
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Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have traveled?  
When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this announcement is made.
At 08:48 AM 6/19/2015, you wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, 
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce 
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently 
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't 
have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does but you 
can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast 
comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:
Hello,

Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any 
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of 
purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps 
for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to 
take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing 
Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, 
but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the 
current products would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Andy Baracco]

Please do! I love your podcasts.

Andy


-Original Message- 
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Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets,
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't
have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does but you
can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast
comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking 
for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one 
or

the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely 
on

Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very 
much

appreciated. Thanks in advance.



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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Robert Doc wright]

Correction, Seeing Eye announces streets before you get to them as well as 
alerting you to which side (left or right) the upcoming intersection is and 
announces nearby POIs
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS


I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets,
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't
have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does but you
can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast
comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking 
for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one 
or

the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely 
on

Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very 
much

appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Joe



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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Robert Doc wright]

I'm not sure what you mean by intersection analysis. It does let you know 
which side of the street  the intersection is on.
- Original Message - 
From: Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS


Does seeing eye give intersection analysis?

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Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Both announce intersections. The main difference is that Seeing Eye has turn 
by turn included in the app, while BS has to use another app like Google or 
Apple maps.


Andy


-Original Message-
From: Nancy Badger
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I 
think that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them 
simultaneously. Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.

Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my 
iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.



On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year
ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself
looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of
purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps
for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to
take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing
Eye app can rely on Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare,
but that in of itself is not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the
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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

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Telling you that the intersection is 4-way with a street crossing b street or 
something like that.  

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc wright
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

I'm not sure what you mean by intersection analysis. It does let you know which 
side of the street  the intersection is on.
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From: Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS


Does seeing eye give intersection analysis?

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Andy Baracco
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 8:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

Both announce intersections. The main difference is that Seeing Eye has turn by 
turn included in the app, while BS has to use another app like Google or Apple 
maps.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Nancy Badger
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I think 
that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them simultaneously. 
Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services UT Chattanooga Sent from my iPhone 
with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

 On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any 
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Robert Doc wright]

Seeing Eye is$69 a year.
- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Masic/Surgubben l...@masic.se

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS


How much is seeing eye.


dacia.l...@gmail.com skrev den 15-06-19 15:54:

I agree, a podcast comparing that would be great.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 19, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes you should!


On 6/19/2015 2:48 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, 
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce 
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently 
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't 
have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does but you can 
use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast comparing 
those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,
Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing 
one or

the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can 
rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself 
is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very 
much

appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Mike Arrigo]

I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, 
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce 
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently 
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't 
have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does but you 
can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast 
comparing those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Ann Byrne]

Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have 
traveled?  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this 
announcement is made.

At 08:48 AM 6/19/2015, you wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce 
streets, but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will 
announce approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will 
frequently announce your current address and how far you have 
traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the seeing 
eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I 
should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
appreciated. Thanks in advance.



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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

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I agree, a podcast comparing that would be great.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jun 19, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes you should!
 
 On 6/19/2015 2:48 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
 I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having 
 to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only 
 when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching 
 streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your 
 current address and how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn 
 directions the way the seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for 
 that. H, maybe I should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
 Original message:
 Hello,
 
 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
 didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
 more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
 the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
 directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
 subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
 Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
 not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
 appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I find how Blindsquare announces stuff very unreliable. Sometimes I walk and it 
suddenly starts to constantly announce how far I travelled as in every few 
seconds and since I have a Seeing-Eye subscription for 3 years at this point I 
have taken Blindsquare off my device. I don't need GPS that often and prefer 
how the Seeing Eye app gives me information. I guess that goes to show how 
subjective this is, just like TTS voices and bluetooth headsets.

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Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have 
traveled?  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this 
announcement is made.
At 08:48 AM 6/19/2015, you wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce 
streets, but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will 
announce approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will 
frequently announce your current address and how far you have 
traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the seeing 
eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I 
should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:
Hello,

Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Shaf]

Yes you should!

On 6/19/2015 2:48 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, 
but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce 
approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently 
announce your current address and how far you have traveled. It 
doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the seeing eye app does 
but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should do a pod 
cast comparing those 2 apps.

Original message:

Hello,



Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing 
one or

the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can 
rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of 
itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be 
very much

appreciated. Thanks in advance.



Joe



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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Alexander Masic/Surgubben]

How much is seeing eye.


dacia.l...@gmail.com skrev den 15-06-19 15:54:

I agree, a podcast comparing that would be great.

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Yes you should!


On 6/19/2015 2:48 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you having to 
touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce streets, but only when you 
arrive at them, where as blindsquare will announce approaching streets from a 
distance. Also, blindsquare will frequently announce your current address and 
how far you have traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the 
seeing eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I should 
do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
Original message:

Hello,
Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Ann,

If you look at the settings, you should find a button to open another screen 
where you select what happens when you shake your iPhone. Shake to read 
pedometer is what you want.

I’m a bit vague about how everything else is labelled as I run BlindSquare in 
French, but they failed to localise that particular button.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have traveled? 
  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this announcement is made.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Alexander Masic/Surgubben]

Blindsquare anounse something like this, you have walked 500 meters five 
minutes or something like that. However i'm not shure if there is an 
oportunity to manualy check how far you have walked. ok. there is an 
step accounter wich tell you how many step you have tooken, but as i 
understand you would like to know the distans

.


Anne Robertson skrev den 15-06-19 17:19:

Hello Ann,

If you look at the settings, you should find a button to open another screen 
where you select what happens when you shake your iPhone. Shake to read 
pedometer is what you want.

I’m a bit vague about how everything else is labelled as I run BlindSquare in 
French, but they failed to localise that particular button.

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Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have traveled?  
When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this announcement is made.


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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Grant]

Hi Sieghard, the random announcements about your distance were likely caused by 
your phone being awake and its accelerometer being triggered. You can turn this 
off so that BlindSquare doesn’t react when your phone is shaken. This would 
solve that particular problem.

Grant

On Jun 19, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I find how Blindsquare announces stuff very unreliable. Sometimes I walk and it 
suddenly starts to constantly announce how far I travelled as in every few 
seconds and since I have a Seeing-Eye subscription for 3 years at this point I 
have taken Blindsquare off my device. I don't need GPS that often and prefer 
how the Seeing Eye app gives me information. I guess that goes to show how 
subjective this is, just like TTS voices and bluetooth headsets.

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Ann Byrne
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

Is there a way to request Blind Square to announce how far you have 
traveled?  When I use it, it is a bit whimsical about when this 
announcement is made.
At 08:48 AM 6/19/2015, you wrote:
 I much prefer blind square. It provides more information without you 
 having to touch your screen. The seeing ehe app will announce 
 streets, but only when you arrive at them, where as blindsquare will 
 announce approaching streets from a distance. Also, blindsquare will 
 frequently announce your current address and how far you have 
 traveled. It doesn't have turn by turn directions the way the seeing 
 eye app does but you can use other apps for that. H, maybe I 
 should do a pod cast comparing those 2 apps.
 Original message:
 Hello,
 
 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
 didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
 more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
 the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
 directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
 subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
 Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
 not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
 appreciated. Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Grant]

BlindSquare has a number of features that SeeingEye GPS lacks, such as the 
ability to mark your own points of interest. I use this all the time to mark 
bus bays, the entrances to train stations, and so forth. It is a great 
indication to keep me on track as I’m getting on and off busses and walking 
around. In my experience, BlindSquare is significantly friendlier in terms of 
battery life and can therefore be used for far longer in between charges. 
BlindSquare also can be operated via an external accessory such as the Apple 
headset remote, which means you can get info and mark points of interest 
without needing to take your phone out of your pocket and unlock it. 
BlindSquare also supports displaying messages and receiving commands via a 
Braille display.

In truth, SeeingEye GPS is a very basic app in comparison, and in my view has 
seen only minor updates since it launched. BlindSquare is quite feature rich, 
and is regularly updated with new features. However, SeeingEye GPS does have 
two features that BlindSquare lacks. Those are the ability to have 
intersections described in more detail, whereas BlindSquare just announces the 
street names; as well as integrated turn by turn directions. Both apps offer a 
feature whereby you can spin your phone around and hear intersections and 
places in a given direction. Of course, you should be certain to check which 
countries are supported by each app before purchase, as I do not remember this 
off hand but I recall it is quite limited.

Grant

On Jun 18, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very much
appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Nancy Badger]

It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I think 
that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them simultaneously. 
Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.
Nancy

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Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

 On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
 didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
 more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
 the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
 directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
 subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
 Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Andy Baracco]

Both announce intersections. The main difference is that Seeing Eye has turn 
by turn included in the app, while BS has to use another app like Google or 
Apple maps.


Andy


-Original Message- 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I 
think that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them 
simultaneously. Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.

Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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UT Chattanooga
Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.


On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking 
for
more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one 
or

the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely 
on

Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
not a deal breaker. Any thoughts on the current products would be very 
much

appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Gmail]

I don't know if blind square does this, but I know that Seeing Eye GPS tells 
you the layout of intersections.


Thanks,
Ari

 On Jun 18, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Andy Baracco w...@socal.rr.com wrote:
 
 Both announce intersections. The main difference is that Seeing Eye has turn 
 by turn included in the app, while BS has to use another app like Google or 
 Apple maps.
 
 Andy
 
 
 -Original Message- From: Nancy Badger
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:37 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS
 
 It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I 
 think that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them 
 simultaneously. Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.
 Nancy
 
 Nancy Badger, Ph.D
 Assistant Vice Chancellor, Student Services
 UT Chattanooga
 Sent from my iPhone with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.
 
 On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year ago,
 didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself looking for
 more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of purchasing one or
 the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps for turn by turn
 directions, so what would the compelling reason be to take out a
 subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing Eye app can rely on
 Google Places. I trust that more than FourSquare, but that in of itself is
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RE: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

[Larry Lumpkin]

Does seeing eye give intersection analysis?

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Both announce intersections. The main difference is that Seeing Eye has turn by 
turn included in the app, while BS has to use another app like Google or Apple 
maps.

Andy


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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 6:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Blind Square vs. Seeing Eye GPS

It is my understanding that the seeing eye GPS app does intersections. I think 
that blind square does not do this. That's why people use them simultaneously. 
Just my two cents, and I don't know much about this.
Nancy

Nancy Badger, Ph.D
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with dictation software. Please excuse spelling errors.

 On Jun 18, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Joe jsoro...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Can anyone currently using BlindSquare and Seeing Eye GPS draw any 
 comparisons in the current versions? I tried BlindSquare over a year 
 ago, didn't care for it and got a refund. Now that I'm finding myself 
 looking for more points of interest, I'm revisiting the possibility of 
 purchasing one or the other. It seems BlindSquare talks to map apps 
 for turn by turn directions, so what would the compelling reason be to 
 take out a subscription with the GPS app? I do like that the Seeing 
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RE: Blind Square

[Richard Turner]

What phone and operating system are you using?

 

Have you cleared out the app switcher?

 

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Lately the app keeps turning off the speech. Before I go out I turn it on but 
it turns the speech off again. I make sure to lock the phone so it doesn't 
happen by accident but it still does. Without speech the app is useless. Any 
advice would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: Blind Square

[Michael Feir]

In the blind square settings, there's a place to select that you want
the headphone remote to control blind square as opposed to music and
video playback. I just discovered this afternoon than if you decide to
use an app which Apple thinks of as a music app like audioboom, it
will take over and you have to go into the blind square settings and
indicate thatyou want it to have priority. Perhaps, that's what
happens to you.

On 4/12/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote:
 What phone and operating system are you using?



 Have you cleared out the app switcher?



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 Lately the app keeps turning off the speech. Before I go out I turn it on
 but it turns the speech off again. I make sure to lock the phone so it
 doesn't happen by accident but it still does. Without speech the app is
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[taylorarndt99]

now how good is it with mall navagaton   

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every 
 time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with 
 headings option, voiceover says nothing. How is this supposed to work? Will 
 it work while driving?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
 purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell 
 you what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and optionally 
 what points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, where it 
 opens up the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.
 
 Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works 
 fine. It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is 
 coming up. BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself 
 just using Maps.
 
 Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.
 
 No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
 4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
 interest, but it’s not necessary.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn 
 directions.  Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn 
 right at the next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone 
 in a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
 Blind Square to work.
  
 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
 Thanks in advance for any info,
 Sherry Wells
 
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Jessica Dail]

Hi
In the United States app store, it costs $29.99. On white cane safety day; 
October 15, the price was reduced to $23.99, the price has since risen back to 
$29.99.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn directions.  
 Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn right at the 
 next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone in 
 a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
 Blind Square to work.
  
 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Brandon A. Olivares]

To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell you 
what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and optionally what 
points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, where it opens up 
the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.

Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works fine. 
It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is coming up. 
BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself just using Maps.

Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.

No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
interest, but it’s not necessary.

Brandon

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn directions.  
 Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn right at the 
 next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone in 
 a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
 Blind Square to work.
  
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Jessica Dail]

Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every 
time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with headings 
option, voiceover says nothing. How is this supposed to work? Will it work 
while driving?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
 purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell 
 you what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and optionally 
 what points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, where it 
 opens up the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.
 
 Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works 
 fine. It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is 
 coming up. BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself just 
 using Maps.
 
 Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.
 
 No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
 4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
 interest, but it’s not necessary.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn directions. 
  Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn right at the 
 next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone 
 in a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
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 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Brandon A. Olivares]

It should just work. Do you keep the phone unlocked while doing this? I find it 
doesn’t work if the screen is locked.

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every 
 time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with 
 headings option, voiceover says nothing. How is this supposed to work? Will 
 it work while driving?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 mailto:programmer2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
 purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell 
 you what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and optionally 
 what points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, where it 
 opens up the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.
 
 Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works 
 fine. It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is 
 coming up. BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself 
 just using Maps.
 
 Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.
 
 No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
 4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
 interest, but it’s not necessary.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net 
 mailto:sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn 
 directions.  Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn 
 right at the next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone 
 in a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
 Blind Square to work.
  
 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
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 Sherry Wells
 
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Jessica Dail]

Yes. I do. I have only tried it once. When I tried it, and it worked, I had to 
push a button to get it to speak. Shouldn't it speak automatically?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:31 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 It should just work. Do you keep the phone unlocked while doing this? I find 
 it doesn’t work if the screen is locked.
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every 
 time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with 
 headings option, voiceover says nothing. How is this supposed to work? Will 
 it work while driving?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
 purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell 
 you what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and 
 optionally what points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, 
 where it opens up the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.
 
 Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works 
 fine. It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is 
 coming up. BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself 
 just using Maps.
 
 Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.
 
 No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
 4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
 interest, but it’s not necessary.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you 
 using Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn 
 directions.  Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn 
 right at the next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone 
 in a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order 
 for Blind Square to work.
  
 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
 Thanks in advance for any info,
 Sherry Wells
 
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Re: Blind Square Questions

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, the subject here is Blind Square. So is your question about that app? If 
not, then it's best to start a totally new email, then, write your question so 
that it will be sorted in its own thread. Thanks.



 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jessica Dail jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Does anyone know how to make the tracking feature work in Apple maps? Every 
 time I try to use it, it won't work. When I enable the tracking with 
 headings option, voiceover says nothing. How is this supposed to work? Will 
 it work while driving?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Brandon A. Olivares programmer2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 To answer your questions, no it does not give turn-by-turn directions. The 
 purpose of BlindSquare is to orient you to what is around you. It will tell 
 you what intersections are coming up, what street you are on, and optionally 
 what points of interest are around. However, it can do tracking, where it 
 opens up the GPS app of your choice, such as Apple Maps.
 
 Honestly depending on what you need it for, I think just using Maps works 
 fine. It can now tell you what street you are on, and what intersection is 
 coming up. BlindSquare has some more options, but nowadays I find myself 
 just using Maps.
 
 Carrying it in your pocket should work fine.
 
 No, you don’t need to install anything else. It can be helpful to install 
 4Square, if you want to check into locations, or create custom points of 
 interest, but it’s not necessary.
 
 Brandon
 
 On Nov 8, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Sherry Wells sherrywe...@ameritech.net wrote:
 
 Hi all,
  
 I am considering getting Blind Square so read through the frequently asked 
 questions on their web site.  I have a few questions for those of you using 
 Blind Square.
  
 1)  The FAQs state that Blind Square does NOT offer turn by turn 
 directions.  Does this mean that wen walking, it will not tell me to turn 
 right at the next intersection?  This seems odd
  
 2)  FAQ says that if you carry your device in a vertical position to make 
 sure the back of it points in your travelling direction.  I carry my phone 
 in a front pants pocket.  Will this be a problem?
  
 3)  Do you need to install any other GPS apps in order for Blind Square to 
 work well?  I’ve seen references to Four Square, Googlemaps  Open Street 
 Maps but am confused as to whether you have to have these apps in order for 
 Blind Square to work.
  
 4)  Lastly, what is the price?  I could not find this on the web site.
  
 Thanks in advance for any info,
 Sherry Wells
 
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