Re: iOS 15 not seven

[William Outman]

No, there shouldn’t be any problems. 15.7 is just a security update. 
I’m thinking of holding off a bit before going to iOS 16 until things settle 
down a bit. 
Thankfully we’re not forced to take that update at this point. 
Bill 


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> On Sep 20, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Delia Avina  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> So far I haven’t had issues with 15.7
> Hth
> 
> Sent from my iPod
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>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 8:34 AM, Barbara Stahl  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Hi List! 
>> So I know that most people have upgraded to ios 16. However, when I go to 
>> updates in settings, I have the option to download either ios 15.7 or ios 
>> 16.  Given all the issues I have heard about on the list about ios 16, I was 
>> thinking of downloading the 15.7 version and waiting for later updates to 
>> ios 16 before downloading it. Has anyone downloaded ios 15.7? Are there any 
>> major issues with it or just any issues that did not exist in ios 15.6?  
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Re: iOS 15 not seven

[Delia Avina]

Hi,
So far I haven’t had issues with 15.7
Hth

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> updates in settings, I have the option to download either ios 15.7 or ios 16. 
>  Given all the issues I have heard about on the list about ios 16, I was 
> thinking of downloading the 15.7 version and waiting for later updates to ios 
> 16 before downloading it. Has anyone downloaded ios 15.7? Are there any major 
> issues with it or just any issues that did not exist in ios 15.6?  
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Re: iOS 15 "my updates"

[Donald Raikes]

I just asked "hey siri my updates" so maybe I need to just ask for my
callendar entries :)

On 11/22/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I ask Siri, What is on my Calendar for a given date, and it replies with all
> the appointments for that date.
>
> Are you using the native calendar app?
>
> How are you phrasing your question.
>
> And, yes, they are talking about the Apple Podcasts app.  But, I just asked,
> What are my updates?  It is a new feature that gives you the weather, and
> news if you have that Podcasts app installed and I suspect have selected
> news sources, and some other bit of information.
> Much like an Alexa skill you can set up.
>
> I don't use the Apple Podcasts app, so cannot test that.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iOS 15 "my updates"
>
> I upgraded my se2020 to iOS 15.1 over the weekend and got a tip that said i
> could say "hey siri my updates" to get my schedule etc for the day.
>
> When I do this it says thatt I need to install the podcast app to get news
> updates.
>
> Is this the apple podcast app because I already have that installed or some
> other podcast app?
>
> Also is it possible to have siri respond with all appointments on my
> calendar instead of just the first entry on the calendar?
>
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RE: iOS 15 "my updates"

[Richard Turner]

I ask Siri, What is on my Calendar for a given date, and it replies with all 
the appointments for that date.

Are you using the native calendar app?

How are you phrasing your question.

And, yes, they are talking about the Apple Podcasts app.  But, I just asked, 
What are my updates?  It is a new feature that gives you the weather, and news 
if you have that Podcasts app installed and I suspect have selected news 
sources, and some other bit of information.
Much like an Alexa skill you can set up.  

I don't use the Apple Podcasts app, so cannot test that.





Richard
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exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donald 
Raikes
Sent: Monday, November 22, 2021 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 15 "my updates"

I upgraded my se2020 to iOS 15.1 over the weekend and got a tip that said i 
could say "hey siri my updates" to get my schedule etc for the day.

When I do this it says thatt I need to install the podcast app to get news 
updates.

Is this the apple podcast app because I already have that installed or some 
other podcast app?

Also is it possible to have siri respond with all appointments on my calendar 
instead of just the first entry on the calendar?

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RE: IOS 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But it would appear this is an issue fairly unique to you or a very small group 
of people because I have not seen this mentioned on Applevis and neither have I 
noticed any issues with any of my 2 mail accounts I have set up. I also don't  
recall seeing messages on this list about it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: November 16, 2021 5:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net so 
I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
> trouble getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
> shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

I contacted Apple support earlier today; the support tech suggested all sorts 
of possibilities, all options I had already tried to no avail.  She even ran a 
diagnostic on my iPhone 8 to make sure the sensors were still functioning 
properly.  They were.

At this point I’m going to deploy one of my Bluetooth earphones until I can 
purchase a new iPhone or until the next iOS release resolves this problem.

As I say, this issue manifested after installing iOS15.1 so hopefully the next 
software update will correct the problem.  Although, it doesn’t really matter 
because I’ve been seriously considering acquiring a new iPhone 12 anyway.


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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly]

Probably not because my issues are not exchange related. But it was a good 
thought.

Sent from Kimber's Red iPhone
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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:36 PM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Kimberly,
> 
> There was an issue with microsofts exchange 365 services mainly calendar 
> today with IOS mail app,
> 
> Any chance this is related to your phone?
> 
> I have not been noticing mail related issues on my phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 2:33 pm
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
> 
> It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
> the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
> actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net 
> so I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
> phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
> annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
> download.
> 
> I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
> it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
> updated.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
>> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
>> trouble getting mail?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard
>> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is 
>> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only 
>> different kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>> 
>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly Gardner
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>> 
>> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
>> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
>> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
>> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
>> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
>> shutting down the phone.
>> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
>> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>> 
>> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
>> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>>> Hi:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: IOS 15

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi Kimberly,

There was an issue with microsofts exchange 365 services mainly calendar today 
with IOS mail app,

Any chance this is related to your phone?

I have not been noticing mail related issues on my phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly 
Gardner
Sent: Wednesday, 17 November 2021 2:33 pm
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if mail is 
the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail retrieval problem is an 
actual thing because there are various solutions proposed all around the net so 
I know I'm not the only one who is having this issue. But shutting down my 
phone every time (or nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really 
annoying. There are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not 
download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and address 
it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I wish I had not 
updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have 
> trouble getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has 
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that 
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three 
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By 
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely 
> shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but 
> it is inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't 
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can 
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  
>> I will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly Gardner]

It doesn't seem to matter whether there are other apps running or if
mail is the only app in the app switcher. Apparently the mail
retrieval problem is an actual thing because there are various
solutions proposed all around the net so I know I'm not the only one
who is having this issue. But shutting down my phone every time (or
nearly every time) I want to read my mail is really annoying. There
are times when, no matter what I do, my mail simply will not download.

I have reported this to Apple and hopefully they can reproduce it and
address it in a future update. But it is sufficiently annoying that I
wish I had not updated.



On 11/16/21, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have trouble
> getting mail?
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> "Sunshine is delicious, rain is refreshing, wind braces us up, snow is
> exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different
> kinds of good weather." ~ John Ruskin
>
> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Kimberly Gardner
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 6:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
>
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has had
> problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that sometimes
> everything works just fine. But at least every two or three days I need to
> fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By fiddle I mean either
> removing mail from the app switcher or completely shutting down the phone.
> It's not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but it is
> inconvenient and annoying.
>
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
>
>
> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
>> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>>
>>
>> stew
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Re: IOS 15

[Gerardo Corripio]

No such problems here either! Have you tried restarting (turning off/on), the 
phone? Sometimes these restarts help solve little glitches like the one 
described. Good luck!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 16 nov 2021, a la(s) 11:37 a.m., Sieghard Weitzel  
> escribió:
> 
> I don't have this issue at all with my iPhone 11 and iOS 15.1.
> Have you checked to make sure the setting which controls this in Voiceover 
> Settings > Audio is not turned off?
> Also, you can always just plug in the Earpods or use any other wired or 
> Bluetooth headset as a work-around.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
> Gallik
> Sent: November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
> To: viPhone  
> Subject: Re: IOS 15
> 
> One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
> SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away 
> from your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list 
> discussing the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick 
> (or left) would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do 
> it over again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend 
> you do not load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a 
> non-factor for you.
> 
> One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
> quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
> answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the 
> phone to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the 
> phone pressed up against my ear.
> 
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RE: IOS 15

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I don't have this issue at all with my iPhone 11 and iOS 15.1.
Have you checked to make sure the setting which controls this in Voiceover 
Settings > Audio is not turned off?
Also, you can always just plug in the Earpods or use any other wired or 
Bluetooth headset as a work-around.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 15

One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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RE: IOS 15

[mmmat]

Before you do that, try waking up the phone first.  If the phone is asleep, it 
will not switch to speaker.  I hit the power button once and that wakes up the 
phone and then it will switch to speaker.  If you have a home button, try 
hitting that first then moving the phone away from your ear.

Hopefully that resolves your issue.

Mario 

scar

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 11:26 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 15

Huh, if that don’t beat all.  Maybe I’ll try a reset and hope that resolves the 
problem with auto routing to the speaker!

If that does resolve the issue, I’ll be sure to note that to the list.

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and 
> it going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

Huh, if that don’t beat all.  Maybe I’ll try a reset and hope that resolves the 
problem with auto routing to the speaker!

If that does resolve the issue, I’ll be sure to note that to the list.

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 10:19 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and 
> it going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

I am not experiencing the issue with moving the phone away from my head and it 
going to speaker.  It works fine on my 13 pro running iOS 15.1.




Richard
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exhilarating; there is really no such thing as bad weather, only different 
kinds of good weather.” ~ John Ruskin

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Gallik
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 8:15 AM
To: viPhone  
Subject: Re: IOS 15

One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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Re: IOS 15

[Bill Gallik]

One very annoying property of iOS15.1 is that the feature of switching to 
SPEAKER automatically during a telephone call when you move the phone away from 
your ear seems to be badly broken.  There was a thread in this list discussing 
the matter where it was suggested that a single finger right flick (or left) 
would resolve this bug, this has not worked for me.  If I had to do it over 
again knowing this, I would have remained with iOS15.0; I recommend you do not 
load iOS15.1 unless using the speaker during a call is a non-factor for you.

One consequence of the above described bug is that “Be My Eyes” is rendered 
quite useless for me because I’m not able to communicate with the volunteer 
answering my request.  I find it nearly impossible to accurately aim the phone 
to transmit a decent picture of the item I need identified with the phone 
pressed up against my ear.

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Re: IOS 15

[Pete Nalda]

Yeah, in relation, mine seems to stall when moving to next messages. 

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 8:50 AM, Kimberly Gardner  
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> 
> Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has
> had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that
> sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three
> days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By
> fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely
> shutting down the phone. It's not what I would call show-stopping --
> not for me anyway -- but it is inconvenient and annoying.
> 
> I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
> reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.
> 
> 
>> On 11/16/21, Stewart McKay  wrote:
>> Hi:
>> 
>> 
>> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
>> anyone tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I
>> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>> 
>> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Pete Nalda]

You get a nasty black screen if you touch the upper to Bring up call controls, 
and it will also blink. I don’t know what this will do for voiceover users but 
it’s hell for zoom users

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> On Nov 16, 2021, at 6:57 AM, Stewart McKay  wrote:
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> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
> tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I will be 
> upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
> 
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Re: IOS 15

[Stewart McKay]

thanks richard.  i will check it out.

On 11/16/2021 9:48 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I recommend you read the Applevis.com blog that came out when 15.1 was released.
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-151-and-ipados-151-bringing-many-fixes-voiceover-and-braille-users




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Subject: IOS 15

Hi:


I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
tell me what i need to be aware of as far as issues with it?  I will be 
upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks


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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

Do you have lots of apps running in the app switcher when you have trouble 
getting mail?




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Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has had 
problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that sometimes 
everything works just fine. But at least every two or three days I need to 
fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By fiddle I mean either 
removing mail from the app switcher or completely shutting down the phone. It's 
not what I would call show-stopping -- not for me anyway -- but it is 
inconvenient and annoying.

I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't reproducable 
with any consistency. But just something to think about.


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Re: IOS 15

[Kimberly Gardner]

Your mileage may vary, but ever since updating to iOS15 my SE 2020 has
had problems retrieving email. The problem is hit and miss in that
sometimes everything works just fine. But at least every two or three
days I need to fiddle with the phone to get email to download. By
fiddle I mean either removing mail from the app switcher or completely
shutting down the phone. It's not what I would call show-stopping --
not for me anyway -- but it is inconvenient and annoying.

I know that not everyone has this issue and, like I said, it isn't
reproducable with any consistency. But just something to think about.


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>
> I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can
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> will be upgrading from 14.8.  So any help is appreciated.  thanks
>
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RE: IOS 15

[Richard Turner]

I recommend you read the Applevis.com blog that came out when 15.1 was released.
https://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-releases-ios-151-and-ipados-151-bringing-many-fixes-voiceover-and-braille-users




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Subject: IOS 15

Hi:


I just got notification that IOS 15.1 is available for download. Can anyone 
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RE: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Simon A Fogarty]

And they have some very cool and accessible products.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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Subject: RE: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

I think Withings is a great option as it is now owned by Nokia and they are a 
big player in the health industry so I doubt they are going anywhere.


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Hi All:
Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu scale some 
years ago and although it has been long gone from the App Store, it has 
continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to update to iOS 15, and 
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The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought about 
purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time and probably 
still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or other options.
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RE: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I think Withings is a great option as it is now owned by Nokia and they are a 
big player in the health industry so I doubt they are going anywhere.


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Subject: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

Hi All:
Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu scale some 
years ago and although it has been long gone from the App Store, it has 
continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to update to iOS 15, and 
that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought about 
purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time and probably 
still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or other options.
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Again I don't have this scale but do have their blood pressure monitor 
and if it's any indication set up  was easy as can be and was 
accessible. There was one point at which I had to briefly turn on screen 
recognition to find a register button. But that was the only momentary 
hurtle.


It connects to the phone via bluetooth. You mentioned wi-fi I didn't 
read the documentation for the scale but thought it connected the same 
way but perhaps I'm wrong.  If it does however you shouldn't have any 
issues. When you first open the app it'll ask you which device you have, 
walk you through setting up an account with them and then there's 
usually a tutorial walking you through set up and first usage.


I hope that helps.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 6:28 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
Perhaps they could comment further.

I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
might fit the bill.

Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM,deblewi...@gmail.com  wrote:

Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.

The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
other options.

I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is
that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Deb Cook Lewis]

Yeah this is interesting. The last time I looked for this scale it was
not on Amazon, but it appears to be there now so probably an updated
version. I like that they actually mention features that support
people who are visually impaired right in their documentation. So
that's a good sign. Of course it costs more than everything else, but
I also like that it has the rechargeable battery which seems to only
require an annual charge.
If anyone does have this, how easy was it to set upt he WIFI portion
in the first place?

On 11/2/21, Robin Frost  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale?
> Perhaps they could comment further.
>
> I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite
> accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it
> might fit the bill.
>
> Take good care.
>
> Robin
>
>
> On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi All:
>>
>> Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu
>> scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App
>> Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to
>> update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.
>>
>> The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.
>>
>> So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought
>> about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time
>> and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or
>> other options.
>>
>> I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome.
>> Accessibility is more important than price, and the most important is
>> that perhaps it’s still getting actual updates and might be supported
>> a while.
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Re: iOS 15 Broke My Weight scale

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

I don't have one but curious if anyone is using the Qardio Base scale? 
Perhaps they could comment further.


I have their blood pressure monitor and find their app to be quite 
accessible which is why I thought I'd mention this scale in case it 
might fit the bill.


Take good care.

Robin


On 11/2/2021 4:16 PM, deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi All:

Well I”ve been pretty fortunate until now. I purchased the Beats blu 
scale some years ago and although it has been long gone from the App 
Store, it has continued to work fairly well. I decided yesterday to 
update to iOS 15, and that’s the end of that for my poor scale app.


The scale works wonderfully of course, but absolutely no good to me.

So what are people currently using that works with iOS 15? I thought 
about purchasing the Withings scale which has been around a long time 
and probably still gets updates, but I’m open for comments on that or 
other options.


I do need to resolve this soon so all suggestions welcome. 
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RE: IOS 15 with the iPhone 8

[dm-hill]

Yes, you can install iOS 15 on an iPhone 8. The only problems you will have is 
with any glitches in iOS 15, There really aren't that many this time around.

Take care and stay safe!

Debby 

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Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2021 8:31 AM
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Hi: can I install IOS 15 on the iPhone 8? Just concerned that it might create a 
problem.
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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yeah it is if voiceover is turned off!

Otherwise I’m not seeing this issue like others are reporting.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 7:01 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 15 security update

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
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Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Simon A Fogarty]

Um,

I can’t say I’m seeing this on either my SE 2020 or my 11 pro max,

I can bring up the app switcher and see all the apps currently sitting there 
flicking left or right it doesn’t matter.

Have you guys shut down and restarted your devices?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 7:26 am
To: VIPhone Mailing List 
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi Gerardo,

Whether VoiceOver reads apps in the App Switcher depends on which phone you 
have. Some work fine. On my second generation SE, most app names aren't read if 
I flick left. They are read as I flick right, and when I close one, I am told 
which app I'm now focused on. So it's annoying but possible to work around.

Notifications usually work fine.

With a braille display, I'm able to type in a web address fine on my phone, so 
I would guess that a Bluetooth keyboard would work too. I've had trouble on my 
iPad though.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
mailto:gera1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Also within the notification, when you flick down and interact with it, is the 
bug still present that instead of acting on it, it dismisses it? And lastly for 
those with bluetooth keyboards, that in safari, you aren’t able to get focus to 
type in a web address?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel


El 20 sep 2021, a la(s) 2:01 p.m., Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> escribió:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com>wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

What you currently have under the beta program is the release candidate
So pretty much what apple will release today to the world, if it’s released 
today.

T here is in my view no point removing the beta profile to go back to IOS 15 
production.

But if you ned to then under settings general vpn I think it is now is the beta 
profile which you can uninstall from your phone and then as Richard said it 
should update to the production IOS version when it is released..

Or you can go through the steps apple should have on line to restore the phone 
back o the factory defaults.

Either way.

It’s a lot of time doing something you don’t really need to do.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September 2021 8:42 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 15 security update

I apologize ahead of time for my ignorance, but this is my first time with an 
IOS beta. I got an IOS 15 update last Thursday. So, as a beta user, what do I 
need to do now? Do I need to delete the beat beta profile to get to the 
publicly released version of IOS? I don’t remember seeing this when I signed up 
for and installed the beta, but maybe I need to go back and look for 
instructions on what to do now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Based on Gordan's reply to my question about the build number of the iOS 15 
with the security patch, it is already included within the public release, so 
anyone just on the public release and not dealing with the beta, have the 
security patch when they install 15.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny


On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Richard Turner]

If you want to stay in the beta cycle for betas of the updates to iOS 15 you 
can do nothing and get the security update when they do another beta version I 
would presume.

But, and this is a relatively big but, if you want to go back to the public 
release, Apple’s steps worked for me, but I did them two or three weeks ago.
Their instructions said to simply remove the beta profile.  Then, when the next 
public release comes out, you will be able to update to that release.
I had my SE 2020 on the beta until about probably 3 weeks ago now when I 
removed the beta profile.

Today, when I opened the software updates, it showed iOS 15, and as I flicked 
right, it showed an update for iOS 15.  That was probably the Security update 
Gordan was talking about now that I think of it.
Anyway, I’m now on the public release and plan to stay there on that phone.
When I get my new phone, my SE 2020 will become my wife’s iPhone and for what 
it is worth, I may put my first gen SE on the beta, but since it is so limited 
in dealing with any of the new features, I will probably just sit out the betas.

Long answer, and probably mostly off the topic of your question, but there you 
go.




Richard
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 15 security update

I apologize ahead of time for my ignorance, but this is my first time with an 
IOS beta. I got an IOS 15 update last Thursday. So, as a beta user, what do I 
need to do now? Do I need to delete the beat beta profile to get to the 
publicly released version of IOS? I don’t remember seeing this when I signed up 
for and installed the beta, but maybe I need to go back and look for 
instructions on what to do now.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Based on Gordan's reply to my question about the build number of the iOS 15 
with the security patch, it is already included within the public release, so 
anyone just on the public release and not dealing with the beta, have the 
security patch when they install 15.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny


On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Christopher Chaltain]

I haven’t had any trouble reading the apps in the App Switcher on my iPhone 11 
running IOS 15.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: IOS 15 security update

If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny

On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Christopher Chaltain]

I apologize ahead of time for my ignorance, but this is my first time with an 
IOS beta. I got an IOS 15 update last Thursday. So, as a beta user, what do I 
need to do now? Do I need to delete the beat beta profile to get to the 
publicly released version of IOS? I don’t remember seeing this when I signed up 
for and installed the beta, but maybe I need to go back and look for 
instructions on what to do now.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Based on Gordan's reply to my question about the build number of the iOS 15 
with the security patch, it is already included within the public release, so 
anyone just on the public release and not dealing with the beta, have the 
security patch when they install 15.


Richard
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Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny



On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer 
mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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Re: IOS 15 security update

[Richard Turner]

Based on Gordan's reply to my question about the build number of the iOS 15 
with the security patch, it is already included within the public release, so 
anyone just on the public release and not dealing with the beta, have the 
security patch when they install 15.



Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com


On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:27 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny


On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





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On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you open quite a few apps, I currently opened 10 apps after upgrading to iOS 
15, I sometimes get this where when I swipe left it will only say "Active, 
actions available", but if you swipe left once more and then right it will read 
the app title and if you swipe all the way left and then go through the apps 
swiping right it reads all app names. This is a minor annoyance/inconvenience 
at best, yes, it's a bug, but certainly not a deal-breaker.
.


From: 'Danny' via VIPhone 
Sent: September 20, 2021 12:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny


On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update


Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)


Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- 
Jane Wagner





website:  www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>




On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith 
<mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com> wrote:
There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
security update.

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Re: IOS 15 security update

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Gerardo,

Whether VoiceOver reads apps in the App Switcher depends on which phone you 
have. Some work fine. On my second generation SE, most app names aren't read if 
I flick left. They are read as I flick right, and when I close one, I am told 
which app I'm now focused on. So it's annoying but possible to work around.

Notifications usually work fine.

With a braille display, I'm able to type in a web address fine on my phone, so 
I would guess that a Bluetooth keyboard would work too. I've had trouble on my 
iPad though.

Best,
Anna


> On Sep 20, 2021, at 2:07 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Also within the notification, when you flick down and interact with it, is 
> the bug still present that instead of acting on it, it dismisses it? And 
> lastly for those with bluetooth keyboards, that in safari, you aren’t able to 
> get focus to type in a web address?
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
> 
>> El 20 sep 2021, a la(s) 2:01 p.m., Star Gazer > <mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com>> escribió:
>> 
>> 
>> So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update
>>  
>> Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
>> 
>> On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after 
>> installing the release version this morning. 
>> I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
>> double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
>> security patch by chance?
>> Software Version, 15.0 (19A346) 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> Richard
>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
>> -- Jane Wagner 
>>   
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> website:  www.turner42.com <http://www.turner42.com/>
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith  
>> <mailto:larry.smith...@gmail.com>wrote:
>> 
>> There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
>> However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
>> profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
>> security update.
>> 
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Re: IOS 15 security update

[Gerardo Corripio]

Also within the notification, when you flick down and interact with it, is the 
bug still present that instead of acting on it, it dismisses it? And lastly for 
those with bluetooth keyboards, that in safari, you aren’t able to get focus to 
type in a web address?

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 20 sep 2021, a la(s) 2:01 p.m., Star Gazer  
> escribió:
> 
> 
> So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update
>  
> Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
> 
> On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
> the release version this morning.
> I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
> double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
> security patch by chance?
> Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
> -- Jane Wagner 
>   
>  
>  
>  
>  
> website:  www.turner42.com
>  
> 
> 
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
> 
> There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
> However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
> profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
> security update.
> 
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Re: IOS 15 security update

['Danny' via VIPhone]

Hi,
So far, VO reads items in the app switcher on iOS 15.


Danny

> On Sep 20, 2021, at 12:01 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
> 
> 
> So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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> Yes that's the one I have after the security update.
> 
> On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
> the release version this morning.
> I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
> double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
> security patch by chance?
> Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)
>  
> 
>  
> Richard
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>  
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> 
> On Sep 20, 2021, at 11:33 AM, Larry Smith  wrote:
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> There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
> However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
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RE: IOS 15 security update

[Star Gazer]

So is it true that voiceover won’t read apps in the app switcher?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 2:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 15 security update

 

Yes that's the one I have after the security update.

On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning. 

I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?

Software Version, 15.0 (19A346) 

 

 

Richard

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Jane Wagner 

  

 

 

 

 

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There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 15 RC. 
However, it does not show up unless the beta profile is deleted. Once the 
profile is deleted, you will see an IOS 15 update. The update is labeled 
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Re: IOS 15 security update

[Gordon]

Yes that's the one I have after the security update.

On 9/20/2021 1:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after 
installing the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software 
version, double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you 
have after the security patch by chance?

Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)



Richard
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There is certainly a security update for those of us running the IOS 
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Re: IOS 15 security update

[Richard Turner]

i went to settings, general, software and there is no update after installing 
the release version this morning.
I then checked the Settings, Jeneral, About, and on the software version, 
double tapped to reveal the build number, is this what you have after the 
security patch by chance?
Software Version, 15.0 (19A346)



Richard
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Jane Wagner





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