Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-12-04 Thread carol . pearson29
Sorry, Anna, your messages were hitting the spam folder and, along with others, 
they've only just been discovered!:)

Thanks for your good explanation below. I can fully understand this aspect now 
and feel much more confident to change some items to get them just where I 
want/need them!

Carol P


- Original Message -
From: Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC: 
Date: Friday, 14 November 2014 9.34 pm
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, Still Not SUCCEEDING--more HELP, PLEASE!



 Hi Carol and all,
 
 When you have a CD with songs by multiple artists, you can handle it in a 
 couple of different ways. One is to designate it a compilation. Then it is 
 listed with compilations. If there is one main artist, the other option is to 
 say that it's not a compilation, but to set the album artist field to the 
 main artist on the album. Then it is listed with that artist, but you can 
 still have different artists for individual tracks. To make any changes of 
 this sort, select all the tracks and either press Control-I on a PC, 
 Command-I on a Mac to open the Get Info box, or open the context menu 
 (context key or Shift-F10 on a PC, VO-M on a Mac), arrow down to Get Info, 
 and press Enter.
 
 I hope that helps.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
 On Nov 14, 2014, at 2.27 PM, ,c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Since it was a CD that I had to rip, it's possible it by /is incorrectly 
 tagged.  I accept though that it is a compilation and it just appears that 
 ITunes elected to put it in that place, alongside a few other compilations.
  
 At least we have the copy of the ripped CD safely in ITunes and another 
 totally separate from the PC, just in case!  Smiles
  
 Carol P
  
0was - Original Message - 
0was From: Alan Lemly
0was To: viphone@googlegroups.com
0was Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5.56 PM
0was Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, Still Not SUCCEEDING--more HELP, PLEASE!
0was 
0was It is also possible that Carol's music tracks are not appropriately tagged 
which is why she is not seeing them by artist. The below article does a good 
job of explaining tagging basics:
0was  
0was http://www.macworld.com/article/2047675/itunes-tagging-basics-and-tips.html
0was  
0was Alan Lemly
0was  
0was -Original Message-
0was From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Thom Spittle
0was Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11.37 AM
0was To: viphone@googlegroups.com
0was Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, Still Not SUCCEEDING--more HELP, PLEASE!
0was  
0was Hey Carol
0was This explaination might help.
0was Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you 
delete a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on 
your computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next 
time.
0was Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it's still on your 
computer.
0was You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to 
copy, then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control 
v and it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.
0was In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the 
songs she wants on her phone, and I can select them all were control A), copy 
them (control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It 
will not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the 
same. 
0was  
0was As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should 
be able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.
0was  
0was Hope this helps,
0was Thom
0was ,t;hom3...@gmail.com
0was From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of ,c;arol.,p;earso...@googlemail.com
0was Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7.57 AM
0was To: viphone@googlegroups.com
0was Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, Still Not SUCCEEDING--more HELP, PLEASE!
0was  
0was I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those 
keystrokes can be.
0was  
0was I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to 
my phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?
0was  
0was In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, 
do I keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?
0was  
0was I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right 
choices.
0was  
0was Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give 
on this senario.
0was  
0was Carol P
0was  
0was  
0was  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Thom Spittle
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-18 Thread Russ Kiehne
The problem I've run across is, I have a playlist with 600 songs in it and 
after importing it into itunes, itunes tells me I have only 598 songs.  Is 
there a way of finding out why the other two songs didn't import into 
itunes?


-Original Message- 
From: Thom Spittle

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.


Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and 
show duplicated fsongs.

Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?


Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:

Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on
your computer though



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on
your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
experience now.



Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely
is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Sure,

It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through
every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to
add to playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose
to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist,
so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste
in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the
songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



Best,

Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without
using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and
would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on
why you use the playlist method.



Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without
a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Have you gone through the entire list to see if 2 songs are marked with 
invalid location? Maybe you moved or renamed them in which case iTunes will 
still show them in your library, but it won't be able to find them. It 
sometimes also won't show invalid location until you try to play them.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

The problem I've run across is, I have a playlist with 600 songs in it and 
after importing it into itunes, itunes tells me I have only 598 songs.  Is 
there a way of finding out why the other two songs didn't import into itunes?

-Original Message-
From: Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.

Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and show 
duplicated fsongs.
Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.



 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Sure,

 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.

 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.

 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

 Here is another scenario.

 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
 in music.

 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
 songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



 Best,

 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



 Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without 
 using a playlist.  Personally I've never

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-18 Thread Russ Kiehne
No, mainly because when I play the playlist outside of itunes all songs 
play.  My feeling is, there is some thing about one of the mp3's that itunes 
doesn't like about it's format.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Have you gone through the entire list to see if 2 songs are marked with 
invalid location? Maybe you moved or renamed them in which case iTunes 
will still show them in your library, but it won't be able to find them. It 
sometimes also won't show invalid location until you try to play them.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

The problem I've run across is, I have a playlist with 600 songs in it and 
after importing it into itunes, itunes tells me I have only 598 songs.  Is 
there a way of finding out why the other two songs didn't import into 
itunes?


-Original Message-
From: Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.


Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and 
show duplicated fsongs.

Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location.
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?


Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:

Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on
your computer though



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on
your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
experience now.



Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely
is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Sure,

It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through
every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to
add to playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose
to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist,
so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste
in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the
songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



Best,

Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Well, if you know which 2 songs they are it should be easy to identify and 
hopefully fix.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

No, mainly because when I play the playlist outside of itunes all songs play.  
My feeling is, there is some thing about one of the mp3's that itunes doesn't 
like about it's format.

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Have you gone through the entire list to see if 2 songs are marked with 
invalid location? Maybe you moved or renamed them in which case iTunes will 
still show them in your library, but it won't be able to find them. It 
sometimes also won't show invalid location until you try to play them.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Russ Kiehne
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

The problem I've run across is, I have a playlist with 600 songs in it and 
after importing it into itunes, itunes tells me I have only 598 songs.  Is 
there a way of finding out why the other two songs didn't import into itunes?

-Original Message-
From: Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.

Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and show 
duplicated fsongs.
Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location.
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.



 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Sure,

 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.

 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.

 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

 Here is another scenario.

 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



 On my device

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-18 Thread Russ Kiehne
Do you know if itunes keeps a log of what songs have been imported into it? 
Otherwise I'll hat to arrow down the list and try and find what songs are 
the problem.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Well, if you know which 2 songs they are it should be easy to identify and 
hopefully fix.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

No, mainly because when I play the playlist outside of itunes all songs 
play.  My feeling is, there is some thing about one of the mp3's that itunes 
doesn't like about it's format.


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Have you gone through the entire list to see if 2 songs are marked with 
invalid location? Maybe you moved or renamed them in which case iTunes 
will still show them in your library, but it won't be able to find them. It 
sometimes also won't show invalid location until you try to play them.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 6:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

The problem I've run across is, I have a playlist with 600 songs in it and 
after importing it into itunes, itunes tells me I have only 598 songs.  Is 
there a way of finding out why the other two songs didn't import into 
itunes?


-Original Message-
From: Thom Spittle
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.


Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and 
show duplicated fsongs.

Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location.
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?


Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:

Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on
your computer though



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on
your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
experience now.



Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely
is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Sure,

It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through
every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to
add to playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
playlist, arrow

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little in 
the process!

 

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have to 
be tomorrow!)

 

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you 
want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little 
in the process!

 

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have 
to be tomorrow!)

 

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

 

Carol P

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music 
library.

  Next, press control F to go to the search box.

  Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

  Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

  F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi Tom,

   

  OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

   

  Thanks!

   

  Carol P

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to 
add to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when 
you are focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
Sure,

It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to 
playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to sync 
it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next time it 
syncs, it will come off of my phone.

 

On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab 
will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

 

Best,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

 

Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

 

Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little in 
the process!

 

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have to 
be tomorrow!)

 

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on 
experience now.

Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to 
delete them from my computer (the library)?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Sure,

  It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every 
song.

  As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to 
playlist and choose my playlist.

  Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

  When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

  Here is another scenario.

  I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to sync 
it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next time it 
syncs, it will come off of my phone.

   

  On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

  When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in music.

  Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab 
will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

   

  Best,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

   

  Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

   

  Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

   

  First, connect your phone.

  Next control F to go to the search box.

  Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

  Control F again to the search box.

  F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

  Down arrow twice to music.

  Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

  Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

  Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

  About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones 
you want.

   

  Then alt F to the file menu.

  Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

  Hit enter on sync iPhone.

  Done.

   

   

  Thom

  thom3...@gmail.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a 
little in the process!

   

  Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably 
have to be tomorrow!)

   

  I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make 
for further reference.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music 
library

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on your 
computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on 
experience now.

 

Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to 
delete them from my computer (the library)?

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Sure,

It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to 
playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to sync 
it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next time it 
syncs, it will come off of my phone.

 

On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab 
will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

 

Best,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

 

Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

 

Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little in 
the process!

 

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have to 
be tomorrow!)

 

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on your 
computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on 
experience now.

   

  Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to 
delete them from my computer (the library)?

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Sure,

It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every 
song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to 
playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to 
sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next 
time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.

 

On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in 
music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab 
will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

 

Best,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

 

Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

 

Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

 

Carol P

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not 
checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones 
you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on your 
computer though

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on your 
computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on 
experience now.

 

Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to 
delete them from my computer (the library)?

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Sure,

It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to 
playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to sync 
it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next time it 
syncs, it will come off of my phone.

 

On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab 
will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

 

Best,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

 

Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

 

Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
So, you're saying, whatever music is in ITunes can only be permanently deleted 
by doing so on your computer outside of ITunes?

Sorry not to quite grasp things and have to ask further questions.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 4:01 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on your 
computer though

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on your 
computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on 
experience now.

 

Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to 
delete them from my computer (the library)?

 

Carol P

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Sure,

  It’s easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
every song.

  As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add 
to playlist and choose my playlist.

  Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

  When it’s time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

  Here is another scenario.

  I have a Christmas playlist. When it’s Christmas time, I just choose to 
sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next 
time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.

   

  On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

  When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in 
music.

  Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs 
tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.

   

  Best,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.

   

  Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a 
playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much 
prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the 
playlist method.

   

  Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a 
playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could 
you confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

 

Carol P

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Wayne Merritt
As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in
iTunes, allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000
songs on my main play list. There are a couple of albums that though
they show up in the play list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16),
always reads, Invalid location. How might I fix this and have the
correct location for each of the songs so that they will actually play
in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on your
 computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on your
 computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.



 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely is to
 delete them from my computer (the library)?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Sure,

 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through every
 song.

 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to add to
 playlist and choose my playlist.

 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

 Here is another scenario.

 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose to sync
 it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, so next time
 it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste in
 music.

 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the songs tab
 will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



 Best,

 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



 Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without using a
 playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and would much
 prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on why you use the
 playlist method.



 Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without a
 playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you
 confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving
 these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.



 First, connect your phone.

 Next control F to go to the search box.

 Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

 Control F again to the search box.

 F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

 Down arrow twice to music.

 Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How 
might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so that 
they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.



 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Sure,

 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.

 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.

 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

 Here is another scenario.

 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
 in music.

 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
 songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



 Best,

 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



 Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without 
 using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and 
 would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on 
 why you use the playlist method.



 Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without 
 a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 No, Carol, I

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi!
Ok if a album or track is in a invalid location then those items have not been 
added to your iTunes library in your main home directory but if you’ve got 
another place where you keep your music that’s where they will be!
If you want to put them into iTunes just copy and paste into the automatically 
add to iTunes in your main home directory and that should sort them out!
Also as another option if you do not want to have a iTunes library in iTunes 
pref’s you should be able to point iTunes to your [say like a external drive] 
and iTunes should use the music from there!
But I hope the tagging is right! *smile*
Colin

On 17 Nov 2014, at 17:16, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

 Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
 try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can 
 either delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
 together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
 the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
 strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
 list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
 message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.
 
 Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
 but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
 songs not being located.
 
 So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
 allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
 play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
 list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
 How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
 that they will actually play in the play list?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.
 
 
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.
 
 
 
 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Sure,
 
 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.
 
 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.
 
 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.
 
 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.
 
 Here is another scenario.
 
 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.
 
 
 
 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.
 
 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
 in music.
 
 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
 songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.
 
 
 
 Best,
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Neal Ewers
If this were the case, several thousand songs on my computer which have not 
been added to my library would show up in the list saying they could not be 
located. This is not the case.

Neal



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Colin Matthews
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi!
Ok if a album or track is in a invalid location then those items have not been 
added to your iTunes library in your main home directory but if you ve got 
another place where you keep your music that s where they will be!
If you want to put them into iTunes just copy and paste into the automatically 
add to iTunes in your main home directory and that should sort them out!
Also as another option if you do not want to have a iTunes library in iTunes 
pref s you should be able to point iTunes to your [say like a external drive] 
and iTunes should use the music from there!
But I hope the tagging is right! *smile* Colin

On 17 Nov 2014, at 17:16, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

 Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
 try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can 
 either delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
 together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
 the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
 strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
 list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
 message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.
 
 Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
 but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
 songs not being located.
 
 So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
 allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
 play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
 list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
 How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
 that they will actually play in the play list?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.
 
 
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.
 
 
 
 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Sure,
 
 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.
 
 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.
 
 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to 
 the playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.
 
 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.
 
 Here is another scenario.
 
 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that 
 playlist, so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.
 
 
 
 On my device, I have

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Corey Cook
That does not work for me


Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:28 PM, Colin Matthews 
 velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Ok if a album or track is in a invalid location then those items have not 
 been added to your iTunes library in your main home directory but if you’ve 
 got another place where you keep your music that’s where they will be!
 If you want to put them into iTunes just copy and paste into the 
 automatically add to iTunes in your main home directory and that should sort 
 them out!
 Also as another option if you do not want to have a iTunes library in iTunes 
 pref’s you should be able to point iTunes to your [say like a external drive] 
 and iTunes should use the music from there!
 But I hope the tagging is right! *smile*
 Colin
 
 On 17 Nov 2014, at 17:16, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when 
 I try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can 
 either delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it 
 all together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will 
 stay in the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is 
 the strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on 
 this list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to 
 the message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.
 
 Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what 
 happens, but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often 
 leads to songs not being located.
 
 So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
 allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
 play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
 list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
 How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
 that they will actually play in the play list?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.
 
 
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.
 
 
 
 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Sure,
 
 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.
 
 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.
 
 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.
 
 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.
 
 Here is another scenario.
 
 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.
 
 
 
 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.
 
 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
 in music.
 
 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
 songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.
 
 
 
 Best,
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How 
might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so that 
they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.

Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and show 
duplicated fsongs.
Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How 
might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so that 
they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.



 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Sure,

 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.

 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my playlist.

 Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the 
 playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

 When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

 Here is another scenario.

 I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose 
 to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist, 
 so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



 On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

 When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste 
 in music.

 Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the 
 songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



 Best,

 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



 Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without 
 using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and 
 would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on 
 why you use the playlist method.



 Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without 
 a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



 Carol P



 - Original Message -

 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.



 Thom



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2014 11:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



 Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could 
 you confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Neal Ewers
Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How 
might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so that 
they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Thom Spittle
Neal,
Think of the iTunes library as a website. If a link is trying to access another 
webpage, and the page was moved, it will say invalid, that it could not find it.

Does that help?

Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If this were the case, several thousand songs on my computer which have not 
been added to my library would show up in the list saying they could not be 
located. This is not the case.

Neal



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Colin Matthews
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi!
Ok if a album or track is in a invalid location then those items have not been 
added to your iTunes library in your main home directory but if you ve got 
another place where you keep your music that s where they will be!
If you want to put them into iTunes just copy and paste into the automatically 
add to iTunes in your main home directory and that should sort them out!
Also as another option if you do not want to have a iTunes library in iTunes 
pref s you should be able to point iTunes to your [say like a external drive] 
and iTunes should use the music from there!
But I hope the tagging is right! *smile* Colin

On 17 Nov 2014, at 17:16, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

 Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
 try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can 
 either delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
 together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
 the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
 strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
 list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
 message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.
 
 Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
 but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
 songs not being located.
 
 So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Wayne Merritt
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
 allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
 play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
 list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
 How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
 that they will actually play in the play list?
 
 Thanks,
 Wayne Merritt
 
 On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on 
 your computer though
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on 
 your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.
 
 
 
 Thom
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
 experience now.
 
 
 
 Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely 
 is to delete them from my computer (the library)?
 
 
 
 Carol P
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 
 From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com
 
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM
 
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 
 
 Sure,
 
 It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through 
 every song.
 
 As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to 
 add to playlist and choose my

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to it 
won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How 
might I

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi again. In your last message, you talked about how one deletes files from the 
iTunes Media library. If I do this, why does iTunes not realize that it is gone 
and thus does not give me the message about not being able to find it?

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to it 
won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can either 
delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it all 
together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will stay in 
the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is the 
strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on this 
list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to the 
message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.

Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what happens, 
but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often leads to 
songs not being located.

So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Well, unfortunately I can't answer that. All I can say is that it is better to 
manage your music through iTunes and not to go and delete, move oor rename 
stuff in the iTunes Media folder. If you want to delete a song and also remove 
it completely from your computer, then just select the Move to Recycle bin 
option when you delete it from iTunes.

If you have a shortcut to a folder in Windows and you rename, move or delete 
said folder Windows also does not know this hence any shortcut you made also 
will not work any more.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi again. In your last message, you talked about how one deletes files from the 
iTunes Media library. If I do this, why does iTunes not realize that it is gone 
and thus does not give me the message about not being able to find it?

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to it 
won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song is in the iTunes Media folder (that 
includes subfolders inside the iTunes Media folder) can it be moved to the 
recycle bin.

Hope I explained this in a way that makes sense.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when I 
try to delete a file is often confusing. It's

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Neal Ewers
Hi Sieghard, Thanks, Just to be clear, I am not talking about deleting a file 
by any other means than through iTunes. I can certainly understand that if I 
deleted it in Windows explorer, iTunes would not no this and I would get this 
message. I'm not doing that. But, I understand what you are saying about moving 
the file to the recycle bin. Thanks.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Well, unfortunately I can't answer that. All I can say is that it is better to 
manage your music through iTunes and not to go and delete, move oor rename 
stuff in the iTunes Media folder. If you want to delete a song and also remove 
it completely from your computer, then just select the Move to Recycle bin 
option when you delete it from iTunes.

If you have a shortcut to a folder in Windows and you rename, move or delete 
said folder Windows also does not know this hence any shortcut you made also 
will not work any more.


Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi again. In your last message, you talked about how one deletes files from the 
iTunes Media library. If I do this, why does iTunes not realize that it is gone 
and thus does not give me the message about not being able to find it?

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to it 
won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me to 
have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message that 
iTunes cannot locate it.

Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when they 
are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message of 
confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite clear.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Hi Neal,

Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:

iTunes
Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that synchronizes 
with your iTunes library.
Do not ask me again
Delete Song Cancel

OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete the 
song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it with 
your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will also be 
removed from your iOS device.
The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time you 
delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't be 
displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which is the 
one you and some others find confusing:

iTunes
Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
iTunes Media folder?
Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File

This is really a straight forward question. You already indicated you want to 
delete the song from iTunes. Now iTunes wants to know if you want to move it to 
the recycle bin or if you want to keep it in your iTunes Media folder. Your 
options are to cancel the operation, to go ahead with deleting the song and to 
move the actual song to the recycle bin or to go ahead and delte the song from 
iTunes but keep the song in your music folder so you could later on add it 
again if you wish.

The second line  Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the 
Recycle Bin. Is just an explanation that if your song is located elsewhere 
like in a different folder or on an external hard drive, iTunes cannot move it 
to the recycle bin, only if the song

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Colin Matthews
Hi!
Sorry I’m not very good at writing stuff up!
But I’ll try better this time *smile*
Ok When I mentioned about the tracks in a invalid location I did not make it 
clear that you should get that in iTunes if the tracks had already been in 
iTunes and then deleted only from iTunes but still exist somewhere else!
And of course that meant the ones never added to iTunes as you said do not show 
up!
Also if I make this come across right when you’ve deleted from the media folder 
iTunes does not know so still lists it!
I hope that’s better.
Colin

On 17 Nov 2014, at 18:46, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:

 Hi Sieghard, Thanks, Just to be clear, I am not talking about deleting a file 
 by any other means than through iTunes. I can certainly understand that if I 
 deleted it in Windows explorer, iTunes would not no this and I would get this 
 message. I'm not doing that. But, I understand what you are saying about 
 moving the file to the recycle bin. Thanks.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:39 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 Well, unfortunately I can't answer that. All I can say is that it is better 
 to manage your music through iTunes and not to go and delete, move or rename 
 stuff in the iTunes Media folder. If you want to delete a song and also 
 remove it completely from your computer, then just select the Move to 
 Recycle bin option when you delete it from iTunes.
 
 If you have a shortcut to a folder in Windows and you rename, move or delete 
 said folder Windows also does not know this hence any shortcut you made also 
 will not work any more.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Neal Ewers
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:36 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 Hi again. In your last message, you talked about how one deletes files from 
 the iTunes Media library. If I do this, why does iTunes not realise that it 
 is gone and thus does not give me the message about not being able to find it?
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:18 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 If the file/song was deleted, moved or renamed the shortcuts which points to 
 it won't find it any more hence resulting in the invalid location message.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Neal Ewers
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:06 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 Sieghard, as usual, well done. Thanks for the explanation. Only one related 
 question. In which of the scenarios you mention would it be possible for me 
 to have done something that allows a file to be shown but I get the message 
 that iTunes cannot locate it.
 
 Thanks again for your explanation. Interesting how things make sense when 
 they are well explained. Your bringing attention to the fact that the message 
 of confusion talks about the files in the iTunes media folder makes it quite 
 clear.
 
 Neal
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 Hi Neal,
 
 Here is the exact wording of the messages you get when you delete a song from 
 your iTunes music library in iTunes 12:
 
 iTunes
 Are you sure you want to delete the selected song from your iTunes library?
 This song will also be deleted from any iPod, iPhone, or iPad that 
 synchronizes with your iTunes library.
 Do not ask me again
 Delete Song Cancel
 
 OK, so this is pretty straight forward, you are asked if you want to delete 
 the song and you are told that if you delete it and you previously synced it 
 with your iPhone, iPod Touch or iPad that next time you sync that song will 
 also be removed from your iOS device.
 The Do not ask again is a checkbox and if you check it then the next time 
 you delete a song the above message asking you if you want to delete it won't 
 be displayed, you only get the second message which is as follows and which 
 is the one you and some others find confusing:
 
 iTunes
 Do you want to move the selected song to the Recycle Bin, or keep it in the 
 iTunes Media folder?
 Only files in the iTunes Media folder will be moved to the Recycle Bin.
 Cancel Move to Recycle Bin Keep File
 
 This is really a straight forward

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

I also agree that it's a very confusing message.

Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


Hi, I would like to ask the same question. The message I sometimes get when 
I try to delete a file is often confusing. It's rather like this. You can 
either delete a file and send it to the recycle bin, or you can delete it 
all together. If you delete is all together, this is the only way it will 
stay in the recycle bin. I know this is not the correct wording, but it is 
the strangest message I have ever seen. I know people have explained this on 
this list, but I also know that if I do the incorrect deletion according to 
the message, I am then told that it is still there but cannot be located.


Now, these facts are pulled from memory and may not be actually what 
happens, but my problem is that it is a very confusing situation that often 
leads to songs not being located.


So, if anyone can nail this one down, I would appreciate it.

Neal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Wayne Merritt

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, 
allow me to ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main 
play list. There are a couple of albums that though they show up in the play 
list, my Windows screen reader (JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. 
How might I fix this and have the correct location for each of the songs so 
that they will actually play in the play list?


Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:

Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on
your computer though



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on
your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
experience now.



Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely
is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Sure,

It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through
every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to
add to playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose
to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist,
so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste
in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the
songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



Best,

Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without
using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and
would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on
why you use the playlist method.



Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without
a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Seems to me that when I had this problem, I got a dialog that asked me 
if I wanted iTunes to look for the file for me. I was able to get it to 
find that file plus all of the files in my library that had invalid 
paths. Somehow in copying my library from one machine to another, I'd 
messed up a bunch of the paths to the actual files. Unfortunately, since 
this is all resolved for me, I'm not sure how I got this dialog up anymore.


On 11/17/2014 11:55 AM, Thom Spittle wrote:

It is showing invalid location because the file was moved from the location 
iTunes was pointed to.
If you know where the track is, you can hit enter on the invalid link, then 
point to the correct location. This will fix the issue.

Also, you can see if it is duplicated on your library by going to view and show 
duplicated fsongs.
Sometimes you can delete the invalid one and keep the good one.

HTH,
Thom

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

As long as we are talking about managing play lists and libraries in iTunes, allow me to 
ask a related question. I have well over 4,000 songs on my main play list. There are a 
couple of albums that though they show up in the play list, my Windows screen reader 
(JAWS 16), always reads, Invalid location. How might I fix this and have the 
correct location for each of the songs so that they will actually play in the play list?

Thanks,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/17/14, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:

Tes, you can delete them by just tapping the delete key. They stay on
your computer though



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Surely though you must be able to take songs out of your library?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:20 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



In iTunes, if you delete a song from your library, they are still on
your computer. iTunes just points, or links, to that song.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 9:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, you've been very helpful and I just need to get some more hands on
experience now.



Am I right in thinking that the only way I can lose songs completely
is to delete them from my computer (the library)?



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:34 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Sure,

It's easier for me to manage my playlist, than it is to look through
every song.

As I go through my songs, I press the application key, and arrow to
add to playlist and choose my playlist.

Then, if I want to take a song away from my playlist, I just go to the
playlist, arrow to the song, and hit delete.

When it's time to sync, I choose what playlist I want.

Here is another scenario.

I have a Christmas playlist. When it's Christmas time, I just choose
to sync it. When Christmas time is over, I just uncheck that playlist,
so next time it syncs, it will come off of my phone.



On my device, I have a playlist for me and one for my wife.

When we are together, we play hers, since she does not like my taste
in music.

Even though we can play one playlist or another on the phone, the
songs tab will have all of the songs listed, from all playlists.



Best,

Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 8:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



OK, that's what I thought.  Works for me when it's not enabled.



Could you explain why you don't put music onto your phone without
using a playlist.  Personally I've never really got into playlists and
would much prefer to do it without, but would welcome your comments on
why you use the playlist method.



Also, I would need a few instructions before putting music on without
a playlist, especially with regard to how to select individual items.



Carol P



- Original Message -

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 1:16 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



No, Carol, I did not have column browser enabled.



Thom



From

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-15 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Looking through other posts which have appeared since this one, could you 
confirm Tom whether or not you had enabled the column browser before giving 
these instructions as it appears that perhaps you had not.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

   

  First, connect your phone.

  Next control F to go to the search box.

  Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

  Control F again to the search box.

  F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

  Down arrow twice to music.

  Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

  Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

  Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

  About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you 
want.

   

  Then alt F to the file menu.

  Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

  Hit enter on sync iPhone.

  Done.

   

   

  Thom

  thom3...@gmail.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little 
in the process!

   

  Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have 
to be tomorrow!)

   

  I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping 
more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.

   

  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not 
others and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, 
I don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

   

  Please help if you can.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

Carol P



  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

  Next, press control F to go to the search box.

  Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

  Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

  F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi Tom,

   

  OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

   

  Thanks!

   

  Carol P

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music 
I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping 
more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Russ Kiehne
In my openion I find it easier.  Not only can I create playlists with mp3tag, I 
can also edit the mp3 tag info.

From: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Why is it nicer?  Does this mean it's an easier process?

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Russ Kiehne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:25 PM
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

  I do the same thing using mp3tag to create my playlists and import them into 
itunes.  Much eaiser.

  From: Thom Spittle 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

   

  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

   

  Please help if you can.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Wayne Merritt
Carol,
I've got iTunes set to sync all songs in my library, but I've also
created a playlist like you did. Anyway, I have a good number of
compolation albums in my collection where the artist doesn't always
show up in the list of artists. I find these particular songs by
tabbing or using F6 to get to the search box and entering part or all
of the artist's name or the song title. Then I can use tab or F6 to
get back to the list of possible matches. This usually works for me.
I've worked a lot with iTunes, but i know about enough to be dangerous
and no more. In other words, I'm right there with you, grin.

Wayne

On 11/14/14, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my openion I find it easier.  Not only can I create playlists with
 mp3tag, I can also edit the mp3 tag info.

 From: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:50 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 Why is it nicer?  Does this mean it's an easier process?

 Carol P

   - Original Message -
   From: Russ Kiehne
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:25 PM
   Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   I do the same thing using mp3tag to create my playlists and import them
 into itunes.  Much eaiser.

   From: Thom Spittle
   Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:54 AM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music
 I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

   Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

   You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add
 to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

   If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you
 are focused on the playlist song list.



   Hope this helps,

   Thom



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   Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
   Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



   Hi all,



   Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with
 this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a
 little.



   However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further
 music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping
 more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.



   However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others
 and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I
 don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check
 what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.



   Please help if you can.



   Thanks.



   Carol P



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RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Thom Spittle
Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you delete 
a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on your 
computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Alan Lemly
It is also possible that Carol's music tracks are not appropriately tagged
which is why she is not seeing them by artist. The below article does a good
job of explaining tagging basics:

 

http://www.macworld.com/article/2047675/itunes-tagging-basics-and-tips.html

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you
delete a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and
on your computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the
next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it's still on your
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to
copy, then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit
control v and it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the
same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those
keystrokes can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with
this or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer,
do I keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right
choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give
on this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you
are focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a
little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Neal Ewers
Tom, this is very helpful, but I can’t get it to work. Here is what I did.

 

I created a playlist in iTunes. Went to my music folder in Windows Explorer and 
selected all songs in a folder. I went back to iTunes and checked playlist. I 
then went to the playlist and did control V. Nothing happened. What am I doing 
wrong?

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you delete 
a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on your 
computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Thom Spittle
There is an add to button tat you need to press, then there is a box in there 
you can paste your song into.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Tom, this is very helpful, but I can’t get it to work. Here is what I did.

 

I created a playlist in iTunes. Went to my music folder in Windows Explorer and 
selected all songs in a folder. I went back to iTunes and checked playlist. I 
then went to the playlist and did control V. Nothing happened. What am I doing 
wrong?

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you delete 
a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on your 
computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Thom Spittle
It’s the box just before the box that says click to add items to this playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Tom, this is very helpful, but I can’t get it to work. Here is what I did.

 

I created a playlist in iTunes. Went to my music folder in Windows Explorer and 
selected all songs in a folder. I went back to iTunes and checked playlist. I 
then went to the playlist and did control V. Nothing happened. What am I doing 
wrong?

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you delete 
a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on your 
computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Neal Ewers
Tom, Thanks. Got it. I normally don’t just thank people on list because it just 
takes up space, but I would like to say that if you want to know how to get 
around in iTunes, do listen to Tom’s podcast. It really helps.

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

It’s the box just before the box that says click to add items to this playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Neal Ewers
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Tom, this is very helpful, but I can’t get it to work. Here is what I did.

 

I created a playlist in iTunes. Went to my music folder in Windows Explorer and 
selected all songs in a folder. I went back to iTunes and checked playlist. I 
then went to the playlist and did control V. Nothing happened. What am I doing 
wrong?

 

Neal

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hey Carol

This explaination might help.

Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you delete 
a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on your 
computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next time.

Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

 

As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those keystrokes 
can be.

 

I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

 

In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do I 
keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

 

I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

 

Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

 

Carol P

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Oh, this is finding songs on my phone.  Sometimes I like to search by artist 
and that's when this particular compilation doesn't show up.


Carol P

- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


Carol,
I've got iTunes set to sync all songs in my library, but I've also
created a playlist like you did. Anyway, I have a good number of
compolation albums in my collection where the artist doesn't always
show up in the list of artists. I find these particular songs by
tabbing or using F6 to get to the search box and entering part or all
of the artist's name or the song title. Then I can use tab or F6 to
get back to the list of possible matches. This usually works for me.
I've worked a lot with iTunes, but i know about enough to be dangerous
and no more. In other words, I'm right there with you, grin.

Wayne

On 11/14/14, Russ Kiehne russ94...@gmail.com wrote:

In my openion I find it easier.  Not only can I create playlists with
mp3tag, I can also edit the mp3 tag info.

From: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

Why is it nicer?  Does this mean it's an easier process?

Carol P

  - Original Message -
  From: Russ Kiehne
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:25 PM
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

  I do the same thing using mp3tag to create my playlists and import them
into itunes.  Much eaiser.

  From: Thom Spittle
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music

I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to 
add

to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when 
you

are focused on the playlist song list.



  Hope this helps,

  Thom



  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



  Hi all,



  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a
little.



  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am 
ripping

more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.



  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not 
others

and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to 
check

what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.



  Please help if you can.



  Thanks.



  Carol P



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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, I'll take care.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5:36 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Hey Carol

  This explaination might help.

  Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you 
delete a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on 
your computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next 
time.

  Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

  You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

  In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 

   

  As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

  thom3...@gmail.com 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those 
keystrokes can be.

   

  I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?

   

  In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do 
I keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?

   

  I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.

   

  Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.

   

  Carol P

   

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Since it was a CD that I had to rip, it's possible it was/is incorrectly 
tagged.  I accept though that it is a compilation and it just appears that 
ITunes elected to put it in that place, alongside a few other compilations.

At least we have the copy of the ripped CD safely in ITunes and another totally 
separate from the PC, just in case!  Smiles

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5:56 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  It is also possible that Carol's music tracks are not appropriately tagged 
which is why she is not seeing them by artist. The below article does a good 
job of explaining tagging basics:



  http://www.macworld.com/article/2047675/itunes-tagging-basics-and-tips.html



  Alan Lemly



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Thom Spittle
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



  Hey Carol

  This explaination might help.

  Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you 
delete a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and on 
your computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the next 
time.

  Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
computer.

  You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to copy, 
then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit control v and 
it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.

  In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
(control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the same. 



  As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
explorer.



  Hope this helps,

  Thom

  thom3...@gmail.com 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



  I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those 
keystrokes can be.



  I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with this 
or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?



  In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, do 
I keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?



  I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right choices.



  Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give on 
this senario.



  Carol P







- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.



Thom



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



Hi Tom,



OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!



Thanks!



Carol P





  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!



  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Carol and all,

When you have a CD with songs by multiple artists, you can handle it in a 
couple of different ways. One is to designate it a compilation. Then it is 
listed with compilations. If there is one main artist, the other option is to 
say that it's not a compilation, but to set the album artist field to the main 
artist on the album. Then it is listed with that artist, but you can still have 
different artists for individual tracks. To make any changes of this sort, 
select all the tracks and either press Control-I on a PC, Command-I on a Mac to 
open the Get Info box, or open the context menu (context key or Shift-F10 on a 
PC, VO-M on a Mac), arrow down to Get Info, and press Enter.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna



 On Nov 14, 2014, at 2:27 PM, carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Since it was a CD that I had to rip, it's possible it was/is incorrectly 
 tagged.  I accept though that it is a compilation and it just appears that 
 ITunes elected to put it in that place, alongside a few other compilations.
  
 At least we have the copy of the ripped CD safely in ITunes and another 
 totally separate from the PC, just in case!  Smiles
  
 Carol P
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Alan Lemly
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 5:56 PM
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
 
 It is also possible that Carol's music tracks are not appropriately tagged 
 which is why she is not seeing them by artist. The below article does a good 
 job of explaining tagging basics:
  
 http://www.macworld.com/article/2047675/itunes-tagging-basics-and-tips.html
  
 Alan Lemly
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Thom Spittle
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 11:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
  
 Hey Carol
 This explaination might help.
 Your songs are on your computer. iTunes just points to the song. If you 
 delete a song from your playlist, it stays in your main  music library, and 
 on your computer. But, it will come off of your phone when you sync it the 
 next time.
 Even if you delete a song from the main music library, it’s still on your 
 computer.
 You can even go to your music through windows explorer and control c to 
 copy, then go to iTunes and when you are looking at your playlist, hit 
 control v and it will add it to your playlist and to the mail music library.
 In fact, my wife has a folder on her computer that contains all of the songs 
 she wants on her phone, and I can select them all ( control A), copy them 
 (control c),  then paste them (control v) to her playlist in iTunes. It will 
 not duplicate the songs she already has in there, since the path is the 
 same. 
  
 As to your question about the album, If you are focused on it, you should be 
 able to hit F2 and it will ask you to rename the item. Just like in Windows 
 explorer.
  
 Hope this helps,
 Thom
 thom3...@gmail.com
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 7:57 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
  
 I've now heard the podcast and got it into my mind how useful those 
 keystrokes can be.
  
 I hadn't realised though that, now I've made a playlist then added it to my 
 phone as a playlist, I now have an album which (because it's in the 
 Complilations (the Best of) in Itunes it doesn't show up under the artist's 
 name.  The rest in that playlist do show up correctly.  Must I live with 
 this or can I do anything to show that this album is by a certain artist?
  
 In addition, if I choose to delete the playlist from my phone or computer, 
 do I keep the tracks and artists intact on the phone and computer?
  
 I'd like to understand a little more on this so that I make the right 
 choices.
  
 Thanks for any further additional explanations you or anyone else can give 
 on this senario.
  
 Carol P
  
  
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: Thom Spittle
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM
 Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
  
 Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.
 Next, press control F to go to the search box.
 Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.
 Arrow down until you get to your playlist.
 F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.
  
 Thom
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!
  
 Hi Tom,
  
 OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
 but now I want

Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-14 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
I just want to let everyone know I've been able to follow Tom's explanations 
and thank everyone for your patience as I've struggled with ITunes.

I now have everything to date safely on my various devices, including the IPod.

I discovered it was a bit of a mystery, but it turns out that the IPod was not 
recognised if it was plugged in before the laptop was turned on.  The phone 
doesn't seem to care which way I do things!

Anyway, my main problems are sorted now.  Thanks to all.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:06 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

   

  First, connect your phone.

  Next control F to go to the search box.

  Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

  Control F again to the search box.

  F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

  Down arrow twice to music.

  Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

  Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

  Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

  About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you 
want.

   

  Then alt F to the file menu.

  Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

  Hit enter on sync iPhone.

  Done.

   

   

  Thom

  thom3...@gmail.com

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little 
in the process!

   

  Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have 
to be tomorrow!)

   

  I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

   

  Carol P

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), 
but now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Thom Spittle 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the 
music I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping 
more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.

   

  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not 
others and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, 
I don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

   

  Please help

RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread Thom Spittle
If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread Russ Kiehne
I do the same thing using mp3tag to create my playlists and import them into 
itunes.  Much eaiser.

From: Thom Spittle 
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Why is it nicer?  Does this mean it's an easier process?

Carol P

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  From: Russ Kiehne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:25 PM
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  I do the same thing using mp3tag to create my playlists and import them into 
itunes.  Much eaiser.

  From: Thom Spittle 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 5:54 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

   

  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

   

  Please help if you can.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Carol P

   

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Hi Tom,

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

Thanks!

Carol P


  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

  Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

  You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

  If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

   

  Hope this helps,

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi all,

   

  Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

   

  However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

   

  However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

   

  Please help if you can.

   

  Thanks.

   

  Carol P

   

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RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread Thom Spittle
Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

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carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
OK, thanks so much.  I got there, but it wasn't quite so straightforward, for 
some reason, as your instructions ...

However, although I do have everything in the list, one section keeps saying 
Unticked.  What do I do now, please!

(I hope these aren't too many questions, but what else can I do but ask them!  
I sure do appreciate any and all help!)

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

  Next, press control F to go to the search box.

  Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

  Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

  F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi Tom,

   

  OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

   

  Thanks!

   

  Carol P

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music 
I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

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Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping 
more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little in 
the process!

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have to 
be tomorrow!)

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

Carol P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Thom Spittle 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM
  Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!


  Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

  Next, press control F to go to the search box.

  Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

  Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

  F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

   

  Thom

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

   

  Hi Tom,

   

  OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

   

  Thanks!

   

  Carol P

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music 
I want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add 
to playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you 
are focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with 
this app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a 
little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further 
music onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping 
more of our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others 
and, whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I 
don't recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check 
what I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

2014-11-13 Thread Thom Spittle
Here are some instructions for adding the playlist to your phone.

 

First, connect your phone.

Next control F to go to the search box.

Tab until it says iPhone button and press space.

Control F again to the search box.

F6 twice until it comes to the phone tree view. It should say summary.

Down arrow twice to music.

Tab until it says Sync Music, and make sure it is checked.

Tab until it asks to sync entire library and make sure it is not checked.

Make sure sync selected playlist artists, and genres is checked.

About 3 or 4 more tabs will bring up the playlists to check which ones you want.

 

Then alt F to the file menu.

Arrow down to device and hit enter or right arrow.

Hit enter on sync iPhone.

Done.

 

 

Thom

thom3...@gmail.com

 

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Ah!  I've managed to tick those items successfully now and learned a little in 
the process!

 

Now all I have to do is to get that playlist onto my phone!  (Probably have to 
be tomorrow!)

 

I'll write up your instructions, with any amendments I have had to make for 
further reference.

 

Carol P

 

- Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 7:00 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Start by pressing control 1 to make sure that you are in the music library.

Next, press control F to go to the search box.

Hit F6 and this will bring you to a tree view.

Arrow down until you get to your playlist.

F6 until you get to the list of songs in the playlist.

 

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi Tom,

 

OK.  I've made my playlist (which I hadn't done on the computer before), but 
now I want to check what's in that playlist and don't seem able to do it.  
Presumably I check Music then Playlists, but if you can help me from that 
point, I'd be grateful!

 

Thanks!

 

Carol P

 

 

  - Original Message - 

From: Thom Spittle mailto:thom3...@gmail.com  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:54 PM

Subject: RE: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

If I could, let me suggest that the easiest way for me to manage the music I 
want on my iPhone is to make a playlist of the songs that I want.

Then, when it comes to sync time. I just select the playlist I want.

You can add songs to your playlist with the application key and go to add to 
playlist and direct it to your playlist.

If you want to delete a song from your playlist, just hit delete when you are 
focused on the playlist song list.

 

Hope this helps,

Thom

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: ITUNES 12, STILL NOT SUCCEEDING - MORE HELP, PLEASE!

 

Hi all,

 

Apologies for yet another ITunes question, but I admit I'm hopeless with this 
app , but I must use it and am trying really hard to like it, just a little.

 

However, I'm not succeeding in carrying out the task of putting further music 
onto my IPhone.  I haven't done it for some months but now am ripping more of 
our music selection ... and doing OK there.

 

However, I can't remember how to select some items of music and not others and, 
whilst my PC (with Jaws) will say Selected if I shift+down arrow, I don't 
recall this was the way to do it in ITunes and when I go back to check what 
I've selected, it seems I have nothing selected.

 

Please help if you can.

 

Thanks.

 

Carol P

 

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