RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
I don't recall seeing this on the beta email list, but then again, that list was surprisingly quiet about iOS. It seemed busier about Mac and VO. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 8:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 trangely enough, I just forwarded the offending message to one of my other accounts. Opening it from the other inbox as a forwarded message all works as expected. So I cannot forward the message to anyone to see if they can replicate my findings. I’m not on the beta list so I don’t know if any such issue was discussed there. I will contact Apple out of interest and thanks to you both for your replies and efforts. Malcolm Parfitt > On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:35, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I > would report it to accessibil...@apple.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > Hello Sieghard, > > I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way. As far as I can > tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message. > > Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox. > > Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am > back in the message I was previously reading. > > As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then > quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message. > > This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone. > > Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is > restored. > > I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in. The > other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched > back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail > app the sent message was opened for me. > > Rather strange. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. >> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open >> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher. >> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an >> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to >> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed >> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go >> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Malcolm Parfitt >> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 >> >> Hello Richard, >> >> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have >> not experienced the issue I described. >> >> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get >> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. >> >> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens >> this particular message when launched. >> >> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or >> reason why it occurred. >> >> Malcolm Parfitt >> >>>> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. >>> >>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. >>> >>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that >>> message. >>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home >>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and >>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open >>> message. >>> >>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and >>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in >>> that la
Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
trangely enough, I just forwarded the offending message to one of my other accounts. Opening it from the other inbox as a forwarded message all works as expected. So I cannot forward the message to anyone to see if they can replicate my findings. I’m not on the beta list so I don’t know if any such issue was discussed there. I will contact Apple out of interest and thanks to you both for your replies and efforts. Malcolm Parfitt > On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:35, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I > would report it to accessibil...@apple.com > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > Hello Sieghard, > > I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way. As far as I can > tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message. > > Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox. > > Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am > back in the message I was previously reading. > > As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then > quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message. > > This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone. > > Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is > restored. > > I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in. The > other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched > back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail > app the sent message was opened for me. > > Rather strange. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. >> If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open >> Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher. >> If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an >> returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to >> exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed >> this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go >> back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Malcolm Parfitt >> Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 >> >> Hello Richard, >> >> I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have >> not experienced the issue I described. >> >> However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get >> the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. >> >> I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens >> this particular message when launched. >> >> It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or >> reason why it occurred. >> >> Malcolm Parfitt >> >>>> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner >>>> wrote: >>> >>> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. >>> >>> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. >>> >>> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that >>> message. >>> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home >>> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and >>> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open >>> message. >>> >>> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and >>> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in >>> that last message I had read. >>> >>> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. >>> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple >>> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. >>> >>> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home >>> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. >>> >>> >>> >>> Ric
RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
It does not work like that for me on my iPhone 11. If you think it's a bug I would report it to accessibil...@apple.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: September 21, 2021 8:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 Hello Sieghard, I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way. As far as I can tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message. Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox. Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am back in the message I was previously reading. As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message. This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone. Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is restored. I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in. The other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail app the sent message was opened for me. Rather strange. Malcolm Parfitt > On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. > If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open > Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher. > If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an > returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to > exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed > this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go > back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > Hello Richard, > > I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have > not experienced the issue I described. > > However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get > the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. > > I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens > this particular message when launched. > > It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or > reason why it occurred. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. >> >> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. >> >> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. >> >> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home >> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and >> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open >> message. >> >> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and >> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that >> last message I had read. >> >> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. >> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple >> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. >> >> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home >> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> - Jane Wagner >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 >> >> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and >> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but >> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't >> have to delete the message. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> - J
Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
Hello Sieghard, I have just received an e-mail and read it in the usual way. As far as I can tell there is nothing special or peculiar about this message. Having read it, I exit the message as usual, so I’m back in my inbox. Now, if I exit the mail app via Task Switcher and relaunch the mail app I am back in the message I was previously reading. As Richard suggested, I go to my home page then bring up Task Switcher, then quit mail, at next launch I’m back in the message. This behaviour persists even if I restart my iPhone. Strangely if I leave it for a while around 7 hours normal behaviour is restored. I have experienced this no matter what folder a message resides in. The other day I went into my sent messages folder and even though I then switched back to my inbox and read other messages I received, on launching the mail app the sent message was opened for me. Rather strange. Malcolm Parfitt > On 21 Sep 2021, at 16:00, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. > If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open > Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher. > If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an > returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to > exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed > this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go > back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > Hello Richard, > > I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have > not experienced the issue I described. > > However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get > the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. > > I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens > this particular message when launched. > > It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or > reason why it occurred. > > Malcolm Parfitt > >> On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner wrote: >> >> I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. >> >> I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. >> >> If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. >> >> If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home >> screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and >> close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open >> message. >> >> If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and >> close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that >> last message I had read. >> >> So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. >> Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple >> thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. >> >> Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home >> screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> - Jane Wagner >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 >> >> I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and >> I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but >> you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't >> have to delete the message. >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." >> - Jane Wagner >> >> My Web site: >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C10
RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
I can confirm Richard's findings with my Exchange and two Outlook accounts. If I exit Mail with a message open I am returned to that message when I open Mail again even if I remove Mail from the app switcher. If I exit the message and go back to the Inbox before exiting Mail then I an returned to the Inbox and the message list. It is not usually my practice to exit the Mail app with a message open so I probably would have never noticed this, the only time I may do this is if I go to another app but want to go back to Mail and refer back to a message for some piece of information. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: September 21, 2021 7:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 Hello Richard, I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have not experienced the issue I described. However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens this particular message when launched. It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or reason why it occurred. Malcolm Parfitt > On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner wrote: > > I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. > > I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. > > If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. > If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home > screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and > close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open > message. > > If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and close > mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that last > message I had read. > > So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. > Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple > thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. > > Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home > screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > - Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and > I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but > you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't > have to delete the message. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > - Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0 > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would > welcome list members' opinion on the following issue. > > I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. > > What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can > identify. > > Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task > Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously > reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. > > If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the > message I was previously reading. > > The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not > ideal if I want to keep it. > > After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is > restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular > message. > > I have described the
Re: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
Hello Richard, I have been making extensive use of the mail app today and until now I have not experienced the issue I described. However, I have just received a message and no matter what I do I cannot get the mail app to not open that message when launching the mail app. I have tried your suggestion, for which many thanks, but the app still opens this particular message when launched. It only happens on certain messages although I cannot establish a pattern or reason why it occurred. Malcolm Parfitt > On 20 Sep 2021, at 21:36, Richard Turner wrote: > > I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. > > I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. > > If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. > If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home > screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and > close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open > message. > > If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and close > mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that last > message I had read. > > So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. > Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple > thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. > > Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home > screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > - Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and > I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but > you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't > have to delete the message. > > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > - Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0 > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Malcolm Parfitt > Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 > > As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would > welcome list members' opinion on the following issue. > > I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. > > What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can > identify. > > Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task > Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously > reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. > > If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the > message I was previously reading. > > The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not > ideal if I want to keep it. > > After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is > restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular > message. > > I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if > anyone else has experienced this. > > I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15. > > Malcolm Parfitt > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > https://na01.s
RE: indexing upgrading RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
My VoiceOver voices stayed as premium voices. There is certainly indexing that will be going on, and it is a good idea not to jump to conclusions about bugs until a day or two has gone by for that reason. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: indexing upgrading RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 Malcom and all others Please be aware of the fact that an update has to do major work in the background and lots of stuff in our devices should be re-indexed again. Therefore I always advise to update late in the evening or at night and then after the update, load your device up till 100% and leave it in rest all night before exploring the new ios version. Things can really be upset in the first hours or yeven voiceover voices are compact. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Malcolm Parfitt Verzonden: maandag 20 september 2021 21:47 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would welcome list members' opinion on the following issue. I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can identify. Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the message I was previously reading. The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not ideal if I want to keep it. After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular message. I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if anyone else has experienced this. I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C54dd1b219b93481b558f08d97c76502b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677669871511625%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=hgI8ZTune4iO8nPQcT1jP1mUaGqWcD1bIxTxiu4hy%2Bc%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F5B221A68-3AC2-497A-9EBA-92D9F343AA16%2540parfitt1.org.ukdata=04%7C01%7C%7C54dd1b219b93481b558f08d97c76502b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677669871511625%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=nn58G4mf%2BvzQzD8SSIeel0x2x26iZDxo9f6P3lIlF6c%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C54dd1b219b93481b558f08d97c76502b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677669871521580%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=s6ZiGtyMqejisoqNQaAosS2%2BMpZ13dNxwU64jpsaRks%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro
RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
I did some ore testing in iOS 15 mail app. I think this new behavior is a feature, not a bug. If you close mail while a message is open, you are returned to that message. If you close the message, then press the home button to get to the home screen, then double tap the home button (or do the equivalent gesture), and close mail, when I opened mail I was just in the inbox, not in an open message. If, however, I closed the email, and immediately double tapped home and close mail out of the app switcher, when I open mail again, I'm back in that last message I had read. So, apparently, they are trying to help you keep track of where you were. Not a feature I particularly like, but I wouldn't be surprised if Apple thinks of this as a feature, and not a bug. Just be sure to 1. Close the message, 2. Pres home to return to the home screen, then 3. Use the app switcher to close mail out of the app switcher. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 1:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't have to delete the message. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=e4B7zwmKsDGgGZ8Qxq%2FurZBoE2YnGj7cesCvQp9gEG4%3Dreserved=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would welcome list members' opinion on the following issue. I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can identify. Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the message I was previously reading. The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not ideal if I want to keep it. After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular message. I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if anyone else has experienced this. I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=VWu7EF7NoS2y%2ByUdMWMaqDyk0eKM1CqeobkiXRRAHsc%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F5B221A68-3AC2-497A-9EBA-92D9F343AA16%2540parfitt1.org.ukdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1c0706a6f05d456fb36708d97c71ff2a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677651317102686%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=u%2F6wKsu%2BsLD8X7XzpH5QGAS5SaeMEJ5RkgvCBWgSaqE%3Dreserved=0.
indexing upgrading RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
Malcom and all others Please be aware of the fact that an update has to do major work in the background and lots of stuff in our devices should be re-indexed again. Therefore I always advise to update late in the evening or at night and then after the update, load your device up till 100% and leave it in rest all night before exploring the new ios version. Things can really be upset in the first hours or yeven voiceover voices are compact. Regards Davy -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Malcolm Parfitt Verzonden: maandag 20 september 2021 21:47 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would welcome list members’ opinion on the following issue. I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can identify. Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the message I was previously reading. The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not ideal if I want to keep it. After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular message. I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if anyone else has experienced this. I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/5B221A68-3AC2-497A-9EBA-92D9F343AA16%40parfitt1.org.uk. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0dc501d7ae5f%242ad83ea0%248088bbe0%24%40gmail.com.
RE: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15
I've seen the issue of being in a previously read message, in the beta and I've not dealt with email enough to duplicate in the released version, but you just have to close the message and move on to other messages. I didn't have to delete the message. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 12:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Strange behaviour in the native mail app in iOS15 As I have not seen this issue mentioned and now iOS15 is out of beta I would welcome list members' opinion on the following issue. I have several imap accounts in the native mail app on my iPhone 12 Pro Max. What I am about to describe does not occur with any pattern that I can identify. Some times when I read a message, exit it then quit the mail app via Task Switcher when I launch the mail app I am in the message I was previously reading. This behaviour occurs no matter what folder the message resides in. If I restart the iPhone and launch the mail app I am still placed in the message I was previously reading. The only way to resolve this is to delete the message. Obviously this is not ideal if I want to keep it. After a while, several hours launching the mail app normal behaviour is restored and I am placed in my inbox rather than being in a particular message. I have described the strange issue to the best of my ability and wonder if anyone else has experienced this. I have never had this issue in any other version of iOS other than V15. Malcolm Parfitt -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33766eaac66f48f2d18f08d97c6f6290%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677640102552243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tRPrK2IMkX3aZgfVORPMpelfM%2BNssTZ6HdKYTwhYViA%3Dreserved=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F5B221A68-3AC2-497A-9EBA-92D9F343AA16%2540parfitt1.org.ukdata=04%7C01%7C%7C33766eaac66f48f2d18f08d97c6f6290%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677640102552243%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=agMaVxFQ9ViT9bhOxU6KkjtSPPf5DJMV9PLXVpneGbc%3Dreserved=0. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MW4PR17MB45138A81493AFB7E0010F3AFB7A09%40MW4PR17MB4513.namprd17.prod.outlook.com.
