Re: iPhone 5, how can it be used like an iPod?

[Kelly Pierce]

Ann,

Generally, a SIM card is needed on a temporary basis to set up an
iPhone. The SIM card does not need to be active or functional though.
Your student will need to create an Apple ID if he does not have one
already. This will provide iCloud backup services along with other
features like Facetime and iMessage.  Apple does not clone iOS devices
in iCloud. The configuration of a backed up iPhone can be used to set
up an iPad or iPod touch for example as the data is shared among iOS
devices. Here’s an article that describes the set up process.

https://tinyurl.com/to8g69q


On 11/23/19, Richard Turner  wrote:
> I have a 5S that I'm using as a WiFi only device with no SIM card.
> At first, it seemed to be requiring a SIM card, but after erasing it and
> removing all data, I was able to set it up as a WiFi device; so much like an
> iPod.
> As to whether you can restore from iCloud, I don’t' know.
> Might be a good Apple question.
>
>
> Richard
>
> 🖖 Live long and prosper
>
>
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> Subject: iPhone 5, how can it be used like an iPod?
>
> I have an iPhone 5 I want to give my student for practice with gestures.  It
> has been reset to factory settings.  How can a person use it like an iPod,
> not connected?  Should the sym card be removed, or is it enough that the
> phone simply isn't connected to a carrier?  Can someone back up a phone to
> iCloud and cloan the iPod from the backup?
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> Thanks
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RE: iPhone 5, how can it be used like an iPod?

[Richard Turner]

I have a 5S that I'm using as a WiFi only device with no SIM card.
At first, it seemed to be requiring a SIM card, but after erasing it and 
removing all data, I was able to set it up as a WiFi device; so much like an 
iPod.
As to whether you can restore from iCloud, I don’t' know.
Might be a good Apple question.
 

Richard

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-Original Message-
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Subject: iPhone 5, how can it be used like an iPod?

I have an iPhone 5 I want to give my student for practice with gestures.  It 
has been reset to factory settings.  How can a person use it like an iPod, not 
connected?  Should the sym card be removed, or is it enough that the phone 
simply isn't connected to a carrier?  Can someone back up a phone to iCloud and 
cloan the iPod from the backup?

Thanks

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Re: iPhone 5

[christopher hallsworth]

Oh awesome! Glad it’s fine even on 32 bit devices.
> On 14 Sep 2016, at 21:21, Scott Berry  wrote:
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> It fine.  No problems here at all.
> 
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Godwin Adoyi Agada  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Is anyone running IOS 10 on an iPhone 5? If Yes, How is the 
>> speed/responsiveness? 
>> I want to know if I should update, this is the only device I have for now.
>> With best regards,
>> Godwin Adoyi
>> Cell phone: +233244311697
>> +2349035074300
>> Skype: gadoyi 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: iPhone 5

[Scott Berry]

It fine.  No problems here at all.


> On Sep 14, 2016, at 1:24 PM, Godwin Adoyi Agada  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Is anyone running IOS 10 on an iPhone 5? If Yes, How is the 
> speed/responsiveness? 
> I want to know if I should update, this is the only device I have for now.
> With best regards,
> Godwin Adoyi
> Cell phone: +233244311697
> +2349035074300
> Skype: gadoyi 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Iphone 5 basic settings question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tessa,

I don't think you can undo that restore unless you already had made a new 
backup. You may have to make those changes manually.



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Tessa
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2016 5:01 AM
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Subject: Iphone 5 basic settings question

Hi
So I got my iphone 5s. The guy at the store got it all set up and copied my 
contacts from my old phone to the new, but I forgot to ask him to copy my 
bookmarks.
When I got home I customized the phone, I really like some of the new options. 
Unfortunately when I tried copying my bookmarks through Itunes I ended up 
synchronizing the phone back to a previous backup of my old phone.
I lost the new stuff, ring tones and the lock screen picture as well as a few 
contacts.
How do I restore the 5s settings? and how then do I get my contacts and 
bookmarks on the phone.
Thanks,
if you can help, please be very specific, as I really don't have a clue what 
I'm doing LOL.
Tessa 


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Re: iPhone 5 shows as 5S in my account

[Gmail]

I would call Apple about that. It's a weird one. It sounds like something 
they'd have to fix on their end.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Soon, hopefully, I'll be trading my iPhone 5 in for a 6S Plus. Before I do, I 
> want to remove the 5 from my account. In looking into that, I've discovered 
> something weird: the name is "Alex's iPhone 5", but the device type is 5S, 
> not 5. This is obviously wrong, but will it cause problems when I go to 
> remove the iPhone? Is there anything I should do about this? Thanks for any 
> information.
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Re: iPhone 5 shows as 5S in my account

[Grant]

My iPhone 5S has always showed up as an iPhone 5 in my support profile, which 
of course is also incorrect. It doesn’t seem to make any practical difference, 
but is definitely odd. I don’t think I'd worry too much about it. I suspect the 
device removal process will go smoothly for you.

Cheers,

Grant

> On Sep 27, 2015, at 8:25:43 AM, Alex Hall  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> Soon, hopefully, I'll be trading my iPhone 5 in for a 6S Plus. Before I do, I 
> want to remove the 5 from my account. In looking into that, I've discovered 
> something weird: the name is "Alex's iPhone 5", but the device type is 5S, 
> not 5. This is obviously wrong, but will it cause problems when I go to 
> remove the iPhone? Is there anything I should do about this? Thanks for any 
> information.
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Re: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time Zones

[Lisa Belville]

Yep, setting time zone automatically is on.  I remember looking in there 
when I noticed my phone was still using the wrong time.  I'm on Central 
time, so the time zone used has always been Chicago.  It  was showing New 
York but VO indicated that there wasn't anything I could change here.  We 
were in the Eastern time, so that part worked, the phone just wasn't setting 
the time forward by an hour.  I tried switching to fixing the time zone 
manually and this didn't work, either.  After the date and time were 
selected, there was an edit field, and I have no clue what I was supposed to 
put in there.


Rebooting the phone worked for setting the time forward an hour.  I also had 
to do this when we crossed back into the central time zone.


Everything else is working fine, so I'm not sure what's going on.

Lisa Belville
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching 
Time Zones



Yes go to settings privacy location services and then make sure  setting 
time zone is turned on.that


Sent from Isaac's iPhone


On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:13 PM, 'Rob Harris' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


I think there's something in privacy/ location tracking about this.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:27 PM
Subject: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time 
Zones



Hi, all.
Last week I traveled into a different time zone but my Verizon iPhone 5
running Ios 8.3 didn't automatically adjust to the new time zone while
people with Verizon flip phones had the correct time as soon as we entered
the new time zone.  I had to shut down my phone and restart it to have my
time updated.  I had to do the same thing when returning home.  this was
just a regular powering off of the phone and switching it back on, no hard
reset or anything, no big deal, just a slight inconvenience.

I thought all cell phones automatically updated to show the current time
whether they're on or not.  Is there a setting I need to tweak in my 
phone?

I'll be traveling several time zones away later this month, so having this
info would be a good thing.

Lisa

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Re: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time Zones

[hebertisaac99]

Yes go to settings privacy location services and then make sure  setting time 
zone is turned on.that 

Sent from Isaac's iPhone 


> On Jun 9, 2015, at 12:13 PM, 'Rob Harris' via VIPhone 
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> I think there's something in privacy/ location tracking about this.
> - Original Message - 
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> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:27 PM
> Subject: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time 
> Zones
> 
> 
> Hi, all.
> Last week I traveled into a different time zone but my Verizon iPhone 5
> running Ios 8.3 didn't automatically adjust to the new time zone while
> people with Verizon flip phones had the correct time as soon as we entered
> the new time zone.  I had to shut down my phone and restart it to have my
> time updated.  I had to do the same thing when returning home.  this was
> just a regular powering off of the phone and switching it back on, no hard
> reset or anything, no big deal, just a slight inconvenience.
> 
> I thought all cell phones automatically updated to show the current time
> whether they're on or not.  Is there a setting I need to tweak in my phone?
> I'll be traveling several time zones away later this month, so having this
> info would be a good thing.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
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Re: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time Zones

['Rob Harris' via VIPhone]

I think there's something in privacy/ location tracking about this.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lisa Belville" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 5:27 PM
Subject: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time Zones


Hi, all.
Last week I traveled into a different time zone but my Verizon iPhone 5
running Ios 8.3 didn't automatically adjust to the new time zone while
people with Verizon flip phones had the correct time as soon as we entered
the new time zone.  I had to shut down my phone and restart it to have my
time updated.  I had to do the same thing when returning home.  this was
just a regular powering off of the phone and switching it back on, no hard
reset or anything, no big deal, just a slight inconvenience.

I thought all cell phones automatically updated to show the current time
whether they're on or not.  Is there a setting I need to tweak in my phone?
I'll be traveling several time zones away later this month, so having this
info would be a good thing.

Lisa

Lisa Belville
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Re: iPhone 5 Automatically Adjusting to New Time When switching Time Zones

[hebertisaac99]

Have you tried going to settings. 
Then go to general. 
Then go to date and time. 
Then go to set automatically and make sure it's on.

Sent from Isaac's iPhone 


> On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:27 AM, Lisa Belville  wrote:
> 
> Hi, all.
> Last week I traveled into a different time zone but my Verizon iPhone 5 
> running Ios 8.3 didn't automatically adjust to the new time zone while people 
> with Verizon flip phones had the correct time as soon as we entered the new 
> time zone.  I had to shut down my phone and restart it to have my time 
> updated.  I had to do the same thing when returning home.  this was just a 
> regular powering off of the phone and switching it back on, no hard reset or 
> anything, no big deal, just a slight inconvenience.
> 
> I thought all cell phones automatically updated to show the current time 
> whether they're on or not.  Is there a setting I need to tweak in my phone? 
> I'll be traveling several time zones away later this month, so having this 
> info would be a good thing.
> 
> Lisa
> 
> Lisa Belville
> missktlab1...@frontier.com
> 
> Duct tape can't fix stupid . but it can  muffle the sound!
> 
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RE: Iphone 5 lock button replacement program

[Cristóbal]

I got my phone completely replaced about 8 weeks ago after the battery 
replacement program was announced. I had the battery issue as well as the lock 
button one so the Apple guy just swapped my device out for a brand new one (I 
still had Apple Care).

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ioana Gandrabur
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 2:50 PM
To: Viphone
Subject: Iphone 5 lock button replacement program

 

Hi all,

 

If any of you are having problems with the lock button it's worth checking out 
apples replacement program to see if you would be eligible for a free repair.

Here's the link.

https://www.apple.com/support/iphone5-sleepwakebutton/

I checked and my serial number was accepted.

 

There was some confusion when I brought the phone to the apple store because 
somewhere on their page it's indicated that phones need to have been purchased 
less than 2 years before but I got mine accepted. Later I double-checked with 
apple on the phone and they say that every phone exhibiting the lock button 
problem with eligible serial number will be accepted for repair.

If anyone has payed for it or for a phone replacement because of this issue 
it's worth contacting apple.

 

You can send the phone in by mail but I'm not sure if they would give you a 
loaner and that's why I chose to go to the store.

Incidentally the nice thing is that they'll also replace the battery while 
they're at it. 

 

Hope this helps some of you,

 

Ioana 

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: IPhone 5 vibrate mode

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

There is a mute switch just above the volume buttons that you can slide back 
and forth. That will not mute voiceover, but it will make it so the phone won't 
ring. Be aware if you are using iOS 8, there is a bug that effects vibrate 
mode. It will only emit one little vibrate then do nothing. This is sort of a 
pain in the you-know-what.

Jenn

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> Hello all,
> I’ve never tried to put my phone on vibrate.  So how do you 
> go about doing that so can leave it on like during a meeting etc. so in case 
> someone calls or needs to contact you.
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>  
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Re: IPhone 5 vibrate mode

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Don & List;

Just use the mute switch above the volume up button.

Anthony 


Sent from my AT&T iPhone 5s!

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> I’ve never tried to put my phone on vibrate.  So how do you 
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>  
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Re: iPhone 5 case with lanyard, to hang around my neck?

[Dave Mitchel]

I use a belt clip holder that fits with my 5C. I use a case on the phone itself 
and then the case 

From: Gail the U. S. Male 
Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 8:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: iPhone 5 case with lanyard, to hang around my neck?

Hi List, a while back, I read somewhere about an iPhone case you could hang 
around your neck.  My Otterbox defender's belt clip keeps breaking, so I'm 
looking for a different case! has anyone seen the cases from executive 
productions? any other ideas will be much appreciated.
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RE: iPhone 5 battery levels

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Not sure, but one thing you should do if you haven't done so in some time is
to run it all the way to 0 until it actually shuts down on its own. Then
plug it in and charge it back up to 100%, this may fix any battery
calibration issues.


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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:53 PM
To: iPhone List >
Subject: iPhone 5 battery levels

Hi all,
my iPhone5 says it has 26% battery level. When I plug it in to my Mac the
battery level indicator says 36%. How do I know which reading is correct?
Thanks for any advice.
Max

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Re: Iphone 5 vs. 5s?

[Alan Paganelli]

Very well stated my friend and I'm reading the same information.  Having the 
5s with 64 GB of storage, I keep my music on my phone and still have about 
15 GB remaining to play with.  I don't keep my phone in a case as it is 
always in my pants pocket or my vest pocket of my suit jacket.  I think it's 
a great phone.


Regards,

Alan

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- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 6:27 AM
Subject: RE: Iphone 5 vs. 5s?


Most providers do offer contracts, at least all the major providers like
AT&T, Verizon, Sprint etc. and in Canada Telus, Bell and Rogers. Anyhow, if
you buy from them and are willing to have a 2-year contract you still get
the iPhone for a reduced/subsidized price or you can of course buy it
directly from Apple for the full price and unlocked or pay the full price to
a carrier and have no contract.

The difference between the 5 and 5S is relatively significant and, of
course, the iPhone 5 has been discontinued since last September when the 5S
and 5C came out. The 5S has a faster processor, a better camera especially
the flash and it has Touch Id which is the fingerprint reader which is
integrated into the home key. The iPhone 5C has replaced the 5 and is almost
the same on the inside, but it has a unibody plastic case instead of the
aluminium case.

At this point we are of course more than half way through the year and it is
likely Apple will once again release the next iPhone in September. Not much
is known at this point, but there is a good likelihood that Apple will
release a couple of new models with at least one of these having a larger
screen like maybe a 4.6 to 5 inch screen versus the current 4 inch screen.
This iPhone will of course also have the new A8 processor, I'd be surprised
if the camera did not also receive another update. It would of course also
have Touch Id  and there is a lot of speculation as to whether the entire
touch screen will be made from Sapphire crystal. Currently this extremely
tough artificially grown crystal is only used to cover the camera lens and
the Touch ID sensor as it's almost impossible to scratch it or break it.

The Pound button is used just as on any other phone, but it is of course
just a button on the touch screen numeric pad which becomes active when you
are doing a phone call. The layout is the same as on any other phone, it is
underneath the 9 and to the right of the 0, you dial it simply by touching
it on the screen and then lifting your finger.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 5 vs. 5s?

How are the purchases of Iphones being handled now, since most providers are
not requiring contracts?
I have Tmobiel and am seriously considering an Iphone, but what is the
difference between the Iphone 5 and the 5s?
How do you use the pound symbol, when you need to use it, to access certain
banking and credit card systems?

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RE: Iphone 5 vs. 5s?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Most providers do offer contracts, at least all the major providers like
AT&T, Verizon, Sprint etc. and in Canada Telus, Bell and Rogers. Anyhow, if
you buy from them and are willing to have a 2-year contract you still get
the iPhone for a reduced/subsidized price or you can of course buy it
directly from Apple for the full price and unlocked or pay the full price to
a carrier and have no contract.

The difference between the 5 and 5S is relatively significant and, of
course, the iPhone 5 has been discontinued since last September when the 5S
and 5C came out. The 5S has a faster processor, a better camera especially
the flash and it has Touch Id which is the fingerprint reader which is
integrated into the home key. The iPhone 5C has replaced the 5 and is almost
the same on the inside, but it has a unibody plastic case instead of the
aluminium case.

At this point we are of course more than half way through the year and it is
likely Apple will once again release the next iPhone in September. Not much
is known at this point, but there is a good likelihood that Apple will
release a couple of new models with at least one of these having a larger
screen like maybe a 4.6 to 5 inch screen versus the current 4 inch screen.
This iPhone will of course also have the new A8 processor, I'd be surprised
if the camera did not also receive another update. It would of course also
have Touch Id  and there is a lot of speculation as to whether the entire
touch screen will be made from Sapphire crystal. Currently this extremely
tough artificially grown crystal is only used to cover the camera lens and
the Touch ID sensor as it's almost impossible to scratch it or break it.

The Pound button is used just as on any other phone, but it is of course
just a button on the touch screen numeric pad which becomes active when you
are doing a phone call. The layout is the same as on any other phone, it is
underneath the 9 and to the right of the 0, you dial it simply by touching
it on the screen and then lifting your finger.


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Claudia
Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Iphone 5 vs. 5s?

How are the purchases of Iphones being handled now, since most providers are
not requiring contracts?
I have Tmobiel and am seriously considering an Iphone, but what is the
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Re: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not Stopping Speech

[Pablo Morales]

I have taken the same problem, but some times I fix the issue. It is what do I 
do
I turn off the keyboard and turn on it again. It works the most part of the 
tries.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 11, 2014, at 12:29 AM, "Thom Spittle"  wrote:
> 
> I think it got broken in IOS 7. It worked well in IOS6. Hopefully they will
> fix it. I have to use a 2 finger single tap to hush it up. Hard to do if
> it's on the dock.
> 
> Thom
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
>> On Behalf Of Craig Werner
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 10:54 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not
>> Stopping Speech
>> 
>> Thanks, Tom. Do you happen to know if this command has been broken for
>> long? Curiosity compels me to ask.
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Thom Spittle"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yes
>>> 
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>>>> Stopping Speech
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>>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>> 
>>>> I am using an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.0.3 with the Apple Wireless
>> Keyboard.
>>>> It's my understanding that pressing the "Control" key should stop and
>>> start
>>>> speech.  I can't get this toggle to work.  My iPhone just keeps on
>>> talking.  Is
>>>> this command broken in 7.0.3?
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for your help.
>>>> 
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RE: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not Stopping Speech

[Thom Spittle]

I think it got broken in IOS 7. It worked well in IOS6. Hopefully they will
fix it. I have to use a 2 finger single tap to hush it up. Hard to do if
it's on the dock.

Thom

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> Stopping Speech
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> Thanks, Tom. Do you happen to know if this command has been broken for
> long? Curiosity compels me to ask.
> 
> Craig
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jan 10, 2014, at 8:12 PM, "Thom Spittle"  wrote:
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> > yes
> >
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> > start
> >> speech.  I can't get this toggle to work.  My iPhone just keeps on
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Re: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not Stopping Speech

[Craig Werner]

Thanks, Tom. Do you happen to know if this command has been broken for long? 
Curiosity compels me to ask.

Craig


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RE: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not Stopping Speech

[Thom Spittle]

yes

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> Subject: iPhone 5 and Apple Wireless Keyboard: "Control" Key not Stopping
> Speech
> 
> Hello, everyone.
> 
> I am using an iPhone 5 running iOS 7.0.3 with the Apple Wireless Keyboard.
> It's my understanding that pressing the "Control" key should stop and
start
> speech.  I can't get this toggle to work.  My iPhone just keeps on
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> Thank you for your help.
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RE: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[Ron Pelletier]

Yes but, watch out you don't accidentally lower it below 35 % because you'll
have to reset again.

Ron & Danvers

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Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.

On 08/12/2013 06:33, Kay Malmquist wrote:
> Hi guys,
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> I wasn't interested at the time but is there a fix for the 5 s VO bug 
> at 35 percent?
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RE: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

 

Not yet.  I suspect it will come in 7.1

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

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Hi guys,

 

I wasn't interested at the time but is there a fix for the 5 s VO bug at 35
percent?

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RE: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[Jesus Garcia]

It will also mean you need to reenter your passwords, I would probably do a
full backup on a computer using iTunes just in case. I had to do this
Friday, I also, took the step of disabling the volume slider on the rotor.
Until this issue gets fixed I don't want to have to reset the phone again.
One question to all regarding this reset does the auto update for apps in
setting being turned off in the apps itune settings fix the update
automatically issue? I don't remember how that works.

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Subject: Re: iPhone 5 s volume issue

No. This will only reset all settings; all media and content will be 
preserved.

On 08/12/2013 12:50, denise avant wrote:
> Hi all,
> I need to do this as well. But what I want to know is whether it will wipe
all the information from my phone and I will have to do a restore from
iCloud?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:
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>> Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.
>>
>>> On 08/12/2013 06:33, Kay Malmquist wrote:
>>> Hi guys,
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35
>>> percent?
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Re: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[Chris H]

No. This will only reset all settings; all media and content will be 
preserved.


On 08/12/2013 12:50, denise avant wrote:

Hi all,
I need to do this as well. But what I want to know is whether it will wipe all 
the information from my phone and I will have to do a restore from iCloud?

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:

Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.


On 08/12/2013 06:33, Kay Malmquist wrote:
Hi guys,

I wasn't interested at the time but is there a fix for the 5 s VO bug at 35
percent?
Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com



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Re: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[David L Minton, Jr]

The last I talked to Apple disability they are still working on this fix. 
Richard there is keeping me informed.  Hope the fix will be here before 
Christmas. 

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  From: Kay Malmquist 
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  Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 1:33 AM
  Subject: iPhone 5 s volume issue


  Hi guys,

  I wasn't interested at the time but is there a fix for the 5 s VO bug at 35 
percent?
  Kay Malmquist
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Re: iPhone 5 s volume issue

[denise avant]

Hi all,
I need to do this as well. But what I want to know is whether it will wipe all 
the information from my phone and I will have to do a restore from iCloud?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:26 AM, Chris H  wrote:
> 
> Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.
> 
>> On 08/12/2013 06:33, Kay Malmquist wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> I wasn't interested at the time but is there a fix for the 5 s VO bug at 35
>> percent?
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Re: iPhone 5 s volume issue

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Reset all settings by going to settings general reset.

On 08/12/2013 06:33, Kay Malmquist wrote:

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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Kelly Pierce]

If someone wants even a lower priced service, consider the $30 a month
plan from T-Mobile.  It offers unlimited text and data along with 100
minutes a month.  If you want more, there are iPhone apps that enable
folks to make either free calls or ones that charge a penny a minute.
The savings from a postpaid plan could buy a new 5S in less than 10
months.

Kelly




On 12/2/13, Doug Oliver  wrote:
> Put it this way, I have straight talk and I love it. I haven't received any
> kind of a problem with them at all. So far, they've been very very
> fabulous.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Suzanne Wilson"
>>  wrote:
>>
>> You do pay the full price, but you can spread the charges over several
>> months. My husband has the 5S from Straight Talk and loves it.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Anthony Vece
>> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:56 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk
>>
>> Hi Ed;
>>
>> When you buy the iPhone up front, do you pay the full price?
>>
>> And, which iPhone is this the 5s or the 5c?
>>
>> I thought they stopped making the iPhone 5.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:54 PM, "Pinky"  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest
>> one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice
>> thing I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is
>> only $45 a month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100
>> or more per month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to
>> buy the iPhone up front which I don’t have a problem with.  I like the $45
>> monthly  fee for the service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>
>>  Anyone have any thoughts on this?
>>
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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

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Put it this way, I have straight talk and I love it. I haven't received any 
kind of a problem with them at all. So far, they've been very very fabulous.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 2, 2013, at 8:21 AM, "Suzanne Wilson"  
> wrote:
> 
> You do pay the full price, but you can spread the charges over several 
> months. My husband has the 5S from Straight Talk and loves it.
>  
> Suzanne
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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>  
> Hi Ed;
>  
> When you buy the iPhone up front, do you pay the full price?
>  
> And, which iPhone is this the 5s or the 5c?
>  
> I thought they stopped making the iPhone 5.
>  
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
> 
> On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:54 PM, "Pinky"  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest 
> one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice thing 
> I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only $45 a 
> month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more per 
> month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the iPhone up 
> front which I don’t have a problem with.  I like the $45 monthly  fee for the 
> service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone have any 
> thoughts on this?
>  
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RE: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Suzanne Wilson]

You do pay the full price, but you can spread the charges over several
months. My husband has the 5S from Straight Talk and loves it.

 

Suzanne

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 8:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

 

Hi Ed;

 

When you buy the iPhone up front, do you pay the full price?

 

And, which iPhone is this the 5s or the 5c?

 

I thought they stopped making the iPhone 5.

 

Anthony



Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!


On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:54 PM, "Pinky"  wrote:

Hi,

 

I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest
one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice
thing I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only
$45 a month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more
per month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the
iPhone up front which I don't have a problem with.  I like the $45 monthly
fee for the service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone
have any thoughts on this?

 

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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Anthony Vece]

Hi Ed;

When you buy the iPhone up front, do you pay the full price?

And, which iPhone is this the 5s or the 5c?

I thought they stopped making the iPhone 5.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

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> month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more per 
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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Ward Dudley]

You can use an unlocked AT&T or TMobile phone.
On 12/1/2013 11:57 AM, Pinky wrote:


I am not sure but I don't think you can use your own phone.  I think 
you have to purchase it from them.  If I am wrong would someone please 
correct me on this.


Ed

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Arnold Schmidt

*Sent:* Saturday, November 30, 2013 11:51 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

I think where Straight Talk would be a really good deal is if you 
already have a phone you can take to their service.  Otherwise, run 
the numbers, and compare that would the cost if you sign up for a 
two-year contract with another carrier. Also, I think you only can get 
a 16-gig phone, which is okay if that is what you want anyway.


Arnold Schmidt

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*From:*Pinky <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:54 PM

*Subject:*iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

Hi,

I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is
the newest one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an
iPhone.  The nice thing I see about Straight Talk is the price of
the monthly service is only $45 a month.  Whereas being with the
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RE: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Pinky]

I am not sure but I don't think you can use your own phone.  I think you
have to purchase it from them.  If I am wrong would someone please correct
me on this.

 

Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 11:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

 

I think where Straight Talk would be a really good deal is if you already
have a phone you can take to their service.  Otherwise, run the numbers, and
compare that would the cost if you sign up for a two-year contract with
another carrier. Also, I think you only can get a 16-gig phone, which is
okay if that is what you want anyway.

 

Arnold Schmidt 

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From: Pinky <mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:54 PM

Subject: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

 

Hi,

 

I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest
one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice
thing I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only
$45 a month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more
per month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the
iPhone up front which I don't have a problem with.  I like the $45 monthly
fee for the service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone
have any thoughts on this?

 

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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Dan Beaver]

hi, I did that same process and got an iPhone five and I'm using straight talk 
now. It works very well and I am very pleased with it

Dan Beaver

> On Nov 30, 2013, at 5:54 PM, "Pinky"  wrote:
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> Hi,
>  
> I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest 
> one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice thing 
> I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only $45 a 
> month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more per 
> month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the iPhone up 
> front which I don’t have a problem with.  I like the $45 monthly  fee for the 
> service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone have any 
> thoughts on this?
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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

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I think where Straight Talk would be a really good deal is if you already have 
a phone you can take to their service.  Otherwise, run the numbers, and compare 
that would the cost if you sign up for a two-year contract with another 
carrier. Also, I think you only can get a 16-gig phone, which is okay if that 
is what you want anyway.

Arnold Schmidt 
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  Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 7:54 PM
  Subject: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk


  Hi,

   

  I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest 
one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice thing I 
see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only $45 a 
month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more per 
month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the iPhone up 
front which I don't have a problem with.  I like the $45 monthly  fee for the 
service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone have any thoughts 
on this?

   

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Re: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello, I would also like information as to how it works as well as I'm thinking 
of switching my provider.

Joseph Hudson
Email
jhud7...@yahoo.com Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 30, 2013, at 7:37 PM, lsterling0  wrote:
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> Hi I just bought one of the strait talk Iphones  I will let you know in a few 
> days how it works. Hopeing it works well.
> Louana
>  
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> Subject: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk
>  
> Hi,
>  
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> one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice thing 
> I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only $45 a 
> month.  Whereas being with the other providers is around $100 or more per 
> month.  The only thing is with Straight Talk is you have to buy the iPhone up 
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> service which is a lot cheaper than the big carriers>  Anyone have any 
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RE: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

[lsterling0]

Hi I just bought one of the strait talk Iphones  I will let you know in a
few days how it works. Hopeing it works well.

Louana

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pinky
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 on Straight Talk

 

Hi,

 

I looked at Walmart and online at the iPhone 5 which I think is the newest
one they carry.  Has anyone use Straight Talk with an iPhone.  The nice
thing I see about Straight Talk is the price of the monthly service is only
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Re: iphone 5

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It will choose a different name.

On 11/29/13, lsterling0  wrote:
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> another name? I'm not sure what questions to ask before hooking the phone
> to
> my pc. Anything you all can tell me please do so.
> Thanks
> Louana
>
>
>
>
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RE: iphone 5

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It will name the phone the same as the Ipod or will I have to give it
another name? I'm not sure what questions to ask before hooking the phone to
my pc. Anything you all can tell me please do so.
Thanks
Louana


 

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No.

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Re: iphone 5

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No.

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Re: iPhone 5 and bluetooth keyboards

[La Francesca Vincenzo]

Hi,
I can tell about my experience with external bluetooth kbd.
My apple wireless keyboard has one important problem: the ctrl key doesn’t mete 
the voice. Oteher function seem to work properly.
I have 2 minikbd, one bought in a chinese shop, and an other one bought on 
Amazon.
The first problem is that I can’t able to type the @ key.
I trayed all combinations with the function keys, or other keys but it is 
impossible to write this character: at.

But there is an other problem… the keyboard bought on amazon every time seems 
to lose the bluetooth connection. I have to turn off and return on to have 
again the connection.
In bought the mini keyboards the home key doesn’t exist or doesn’t work.
If I want to go on main scree, I have to press the home button on the idevice.
I tried the devices on Iphone 4s, On 5 and 5c, with latest version of ios.

Vincenzo

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Re: iPhone 5 and bluetooth keyboards

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'd suggest referring to a page like http://www.hllf.net/70 to see the 
list of VoiceOver commands you can simulate with a bluetooth keyboard. 
In my experience, there's no issue with responsiveness or typing lag.


On 11/06/2013 01:56 AM, Tristan wrote:

Hello,
I just purchased a mini bluetooth keyboard on Amazon. It was reather
cheap, but seemed to be quite efficient. I am wondering what other
people's views are on using an external keyboard, and if anyone has
any useful pointers. I'm also concerned about what the response time
and typing lag will be like.

Any input is welcome.



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Re: iPhone 5 and bluetooth keyboards

[Sherrie]

I am finding that I use the Amazon blue tooth keyboard more than I ever thought 
I would.  I bought it to deal with my husband's iPad but am finding it 
extremely useful to deal with email on my iPhone. I am away from home this week 
and have no Internet so it is wonderful to handle all my email with the 
keyboard.  I subscribe to numerous email lists and it is so much easier to go 
through the mail by pressing keys than the constant flick, flick, flick.  The 
flicking really makes my hand hurt after a while.  Also, I was depending on 
dictation a great deal and this made for some pretty strange text messages to 
my family since I did not bother to edit them.  I even found it easier to read 
and post to my Facebook using the keyboard. So I am very glad I got the 
keyboard.  It is also nice since I can answer texts without havig to speak out 
loud.  My husband is a bit nosy and I like some privacy.

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone



> On Nov 6, 2013, at 2:56 AM, Tristan  wrote:
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> I just purchased a mini bluetooth keyboard on Amazon. It was reather
> cheap, but seemed to be quite efficient. I am wondering what other
> people's views are on using an external keyboard, and if anyone has
> any useful pointers. I'm also concerned about what the response time
> and typing lag will be like.
> 
> Any input is welcome.
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

I looked at a youtube video this week. The case is called "Life Proof case" i 
believe. Even water proof. He had the iPhone under water in a swimming pool and 
listened to music via the speaker. He could not use the touch screen under 
water though.

Take care

3. okt. 2013 kl. 11:07 skrev "Pablo Morales" :

> HI all.
> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following features.
> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind 
> of accidents.
> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect the 
> iPhone of scratches.
> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my 
> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
> Thanks
>  
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

I paid $79 for it. It is red. I cannot tell you how big it is, but I have had 
the defender case, and it is not as bulky.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> Jennie , how much is it?
> where did you buy it?
> colors?
> how big is it?
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jennie Facer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:13 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
> 
> 
> I want to speak for the Life Proof case. I have it and I don't have any 
> problems with the sound distortion. I also have an arm band for it so I can 
> wear it on my arm and not have to worry about it coming off or falling off my 
> belt.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>> 
>> Pablo,
>> 
>> Another consideration is the Ballistic Hard Core case.  The Hard core
>> case opens up like a sandwich to cradle the iPhone and hold it tightly
>> in place.  It uses a very hard plastic to hold the iPhone without
>> moving.  A rubber case fits over the Hard Core plastic case.  The Hard
>> Core case has a screen protector, tiny doors that close to protect
>> jacks from getting in dust and dirt, and a belt holster.
>> 
>> I have a very dark gray case that is virtually black.  Hard core cases
>> also come in many different colors as well.  A sighted friend told me
>> that the colors are not the really cool color shades like with the
>> iPhone 5C, but weird blues, greens, and reds.
>> 
>> I didn’t choose the Lifeproof case because I was concerned that the
>> quality of voice input and output would be compromised in putting the
>> iPhone in a water tight bubble.  The Otterbox Defender clamps the
>> iPhone in place rather than holding it in tightly in a hard plastic
>> core.  Many Otterbox Defender owners on Amazon complain that the
>> iPhone eventually wiggles a little in the Otterbox case.  This slight
>> movement invariably leaves permanent scratches on the front glass of
>> the iPhone.  I don’t want a scratched up iPhone glass!  Recognizing
>> touch gestures is highly important to me.  I feel that for the same
>> price, I am protected much, much more with the Ballistic Hard Core
>> case than with the other popular cases, such as
>> Kelly
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/3/13, Donna  wrote:
>>> My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but it
>>> was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my case
>>> from my local AT&T store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid around
>>> $25 for the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it cheaper.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
>>>> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
>>>> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
>>>> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
>>>> how we can recharge the iPhone?
>>>> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all
>>>> black?
>>>> what about prices?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>>>>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Donna
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>>>>> for.
>>>>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pab

Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Lea Langley]

Hi all, I am looking for cases like the life proof or OtterBox defender cases 
which will be for my iPhone 4s which I will get soon. I would like to know if 
there is a case though that has a strap so that I could put it around my neck 
or somewhere else if I'm not wearing something that can use a clip such as 
address. Thank you all very much for your help is much appreciated God bless, 
Wren sorry all, that is supposed to be a dress not address, and also I said 
iPhone 4s but I really knit iPhone 5s so sorry. Thank you again for your 
patience and for your help. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:56 PM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jennie
> Thanks for your answers. Please don't pay attention to my last eMail.
> Thanks
> Pablo
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Jennie Facer" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:45 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
> 
> 
>> I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door 
>> that you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a 
>> little screw that you use to get to your headphones.
>> 
>> Jenn
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
>>> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
>>> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
>>> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
>>> how we can recharge the iPhone?
>>> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
>>> black?
>>> what about prices?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>>>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>>> Of Donna
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>>>> for.
>>>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI all.
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>>>> features.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
>>>> of accidents.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
>>>> the iPhone of scratches.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
>>>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>>>> 
>>>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Pablo Morales]

Hi Jennie
Thanks for your answers. Please don't pay attention to my last eMail.
Thanks
Pablo

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennie Facer" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases


I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door 
that you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a 
little screw that you use to get to your headphones.


Jenn

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales  
wrote:


Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
I have a couple of questions about these cases.
1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
how we can recharge the iPhone?
2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
black?

what about prices?






On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Hi Pablo,



Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Donna
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases



The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
for.
I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!



Donna


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
wrote:

HI all.

I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
features.

1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that 
kind

of accidents.

2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can 
protect

the iPhone of scratches.

3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in 
my

belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.

any body knows any kind of cases with this features?

Thanks



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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Pablo Morales]

Jennie , how much is it?
where did you buy it?
colors?
how big is it?

- Original Message - 
From: "Jennie Facer" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases


I want to speak for the Life Proof case. I have it and I don't have any 
problems with the sound distortion. I also have an arm band for it so I can 
wear it on my arm and not have to worry about it coming off or falling off 
my belt.


Jenn

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:

Pablo,

Another consideration is the Ballistic Hard Core case.  The Hard core
case opens up like a sandwich to cradle the iPhone and hold it tightly
in place.  It uses a very hard plastic to hold the iPhone without
moving.  A rubber case fits over the Hard Core plastic case.  The Hard
Core case has a screen protector, tiny doors that close to protect
jacks from getting in dust and dirt, and a belt holster.

I have a very dark gray case that is virtually black.  Hard core cases
also come in many different colors as well.  A sighted friend told me
that the colors are not the really cool color shades like with the
iPhone 5C, but weird blues, greens, and reds.

I didn’t choose the Lifeproof case because I was concerned that the
quality of voice input and output would be compromised in putting the
iPhone in a water tight bubble.  The Otterbox Defender clamps the
iPhone in place rather than holding it in tightly in a hard plastic
core.  Many Otterbox Defender owners on Amazon complain that the
iPhone eventually wiggles a little in the Otterbox case.  This slight
movement invariably leaves permanent scratches on the front glass of
the iPhone.  I don’t want a scratched up iPhone glass!  Recognizing
touch gestures is highly important to me.  I feel that for the same
price, I am protected much, much more with the Ballistic Hard Core
case than with the other popular cases, such as
Kelly





On 10/3/13, Donna  wrote:
My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but 
it
was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my 
case
from my local AT&T store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid 
around
$25 for the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it 
cheaper.


Donna

On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales 
wrote:


Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
I have a couple of questions about these cases.
1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
how we can recharge the iPhone?
2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? 
all

black?
what about prices?






On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
Hi Pablo,



Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same 
time.




Regards,

Sieghard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Donna
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases



The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
for.
I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!



Donna


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
wrote:

HI all.

I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
features.

1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that
kind
of accidents.

2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can
protect
the iPhone of scratches.

3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in
my
belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.

any body knows any kind of cases with this features?

Thanks



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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Donna]

I want to clarify that the otterbox case fits very snuggly onto the iPhone. As 
long as you have the proper otterbox for your phone the phone will not move 
around in the case. 

Donna

On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:

> I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door that 
> you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a little 
> screw that you use to get to your headphones.
> 
> Jenn
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
>> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
>> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
>> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
>> how we can recharge the iPhone?
>> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
>> black?
>> what about prices?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>>> Of Donna
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>>> for.
>>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI all.
>>> 
>>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>>> features.
>>> 
>>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
>>> of accidents.
>>> 
>>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
>>> the iPhone of scratches.
>>> 
>>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
>>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>>> 
>>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Jennie Facer]

I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door that 
you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a little 
screw that you use to get to your headphones.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:
> 
> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
> how we can recharge the iPhone?
> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
> black?
> what about prices?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Pablo,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Donna
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>> for.
>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> HI all.
>> 
>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>> features.
>> 
>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
>> of accidents.
>> 
>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
>> the iPhone of scratches.
>> 
>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>> 
>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Jennie Facer]

I want to speak for the Life Proof case. I have it and I don't have any 
problems with the sound distortion. I also have an arm band for it so I can 
wear it on my arm and not have to worry about it coming off or falling off my 
belt.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> Pablo,
> 
> Another consideration is the Ballistic Hard Core case.  The Hard core
> case opens up like a sandwich to cradle the iPhone and hold it tightly
> in place.  It uses a very hard plastic to hold the iPhone without
> moving.  A rubber case fits over the Hard Core plastic case.  The Hard
> Core case has a screen protector, tiny doors that close to protect
> jacks from getting in dust and dirt, and a belt holster.
> 
> I have a very dark gray case that is virtually black.  Hard core cases
> also come in many different colors as well.  A sighted friend told me
> that the colors are not the really cool color shades like with the
> iPhone 5C, but weird blues, greens, and reds.
> 
> I didn’t choose the Lifeproof case because I was concerned that the
> quality of voice input and output would be compromised in putting the
> iPhone in a water tight bubble.  The Otterbox Defender clamps the
> iPhone in place rather than holding it in tightly in a hard plastic
> core.  Many Otterbox Defender owners on Amazon complain that the
> iPhone eventually wiggles a little in the Otterbox case.  This slight
> movement invariably leaves permanent scratches on the front glass of
> the iPhone.  I don’t want a scratched up iPhone glass!  Recognizing
> touch gestures is highly important to me.  I feel that for the same
> price, I am protected much, much more with the Ballistic Hard Core
> case than with the other popular cases, such as
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10/3/13, Donna  wrote:
>> My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but it
>> was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my case
>> from my local AT&T store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid around
>> $25 for the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it cheaper.
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
>>> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
>>> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
>>> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
>>> how we can recharge the iPhone?
>>> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all
>>> black?
>>> what about prices?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>>>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>>> Behalf
>>>> Of Donna
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>>>> for.
>>>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> HI all.
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>>>> features.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that
>>>> kind
>>>> of accidents.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can
>>>> protect
>>>> the iPhone of scratches.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in
>>>> my
>>>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>>>> 
>>>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>

Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Kelly Pierce]

Pablo,

Another consideration is the Ballistic Hard Core case.  The Hard core
case opens up like a sandwich to cradle the iPhone and hold it tightly
in place.  It uses a very hard plastic to hold the iPhone without
moving.  A rubber case fits over the Hard Core plastic case.  The Hard
Core case has a screen protector, tiny doors that close to protect
jacks from getting in dust and dirt, and a belt holster.

I have a very dark gray case that is virtually black.  Hard core cases
also come in many different colors as well.  A sighted friend told me
that the colors are not the really cool color shades like with the
iPhone 5C, but weird blues, greens, and reds.

I didn’t choose the Lifeproof case because I was concerned that the
quality of voice input and output would be compromised in putting the
iPhone in a water tight bubble.  The Otterbox Defender clamps the
iPhone in place rather than holding it in tightly in a hard plastic
core.  Many Otterbox Defender owners on Amazon complain that the
iPhone eventually wiggles a little in the Otterbox case.  This slight
movement invariably leaves permanent scratches on the front glass of
the iPhone.  I don’t want a scratched up iPhone glass!  Recognizing
touch gestures is highly important to me.  I feel that for the same
price, I am protected much, much more with the Ballistic Hard Core
case than with the other popular cases, such as the OB Defender.

Kelly




On 10/3/13, Donna  wrote:
> My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but it
> was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my case
> from my local AT&T store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid around
> $25 for the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it cheaper.
>
> Donna
>
> On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
>> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
>> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
>> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
>> how we can recharge the iPhone?
>> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all
>> black?
>> what about prices?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Hi Pablo,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Donna
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>>> for.
>>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Donna
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI all.
>>>
>>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>>> features.
>>>
>>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that
>>> kind
>>> of accidents.
>>>
>>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can
>>> protect
>>> the iPhone of scratches.
>>>
>>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in
>>> my
>>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>>>
>>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Donna]

My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but it 
was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my case from 
my local AT&T store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid around $25 for 
the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it cheaper. 

Donna

On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:

> Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
> I have a couple of questions about these cases.
> 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
> waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
> how we can recharge the iPhone?
> 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
> black?
> what about prices?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Pablo,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
>> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Donna
>> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
>> for.
>> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Donna
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> HI all.
>> 
>> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
>> features.
>> 
>> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
>> of accidents.
>> 
>> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
>> the iPhone of scratches.
>> 
>> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
>> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>> 
>> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> 
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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Pablo Morales]

Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
I have a couple of questions about these cases.
1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
how we can recharge the iPhone?
2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all black?
what about prices?





On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
>
>
> Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
> consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sieghard
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Donna
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
>
>
>
> The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
> for.
> I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
>
>
>
> Donna
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
> wrote:
>
> HI all.
>
> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
> features.
>
> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
> of accidents.
>
> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
> the iPhone of scratches.
>
> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
>
> any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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RE: iPhone 5 cases

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo,

 

Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases

 

The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking for.
I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!

 

Donna


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales" 
wrote:

HI all.

I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
features.

1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
of accidents.

2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
the iPhone of scratches.

3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.

any body knows any kind of cases with this features?

Thanks

 

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Re: iPhone 5 cases

[Donna]

The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking for. I 
have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!

Donna

On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

> HI all.
> I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following features.
> 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind 
> of accidents.
> 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect the 
> iPhone of scratches.
> 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my 
> belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
> any body knows any kind of cases with this  features?
> Thanks
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Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

[David Chittenden]

That is good to know. Thank you, I stand corrected.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Oct 2013, at 14:19, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
> 
> Actually, that is not correct. If an Apple Store happens to have stock with 
> iOS 6 on it, you can restore a backup to that device and continue to run it 
> without upgrading to iOS 7. I did it today.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7
>  
> No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now 
> running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You 
> must choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>  
>> Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of 
>> this process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it 
>> cant be done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has 
>> an iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.
>>  
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7
>>  
>> I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a 
>> lot more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an 
>> iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS 
>> 6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not 
>> interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack 
>> on my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle 
>> with the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume 
>> coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the 
>> earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods, 
>> the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work 
>> until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once 
>> and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware 
>> issue.
>>  
>> I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the 
>> senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version 
>> it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going 
>> to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that 
>> they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me 
>> containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a 
>> restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.
>>  
>> I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7 
>> on it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation 
>> process and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's 
>> signing of it. I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on 
>> their computers, installing that version requires an action and signing or 
>> "blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple 
>> senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and that's why 
>> I'm posting this message. I did download the 
>> iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September 
>> 20th from a link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I 
>> need someone in the know to explain if I could successfully install this on 
>> a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I think I understand that this 
>> can't be done from what I've read posted here.
>>  
>> I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't 
>> need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7. 
>> Believe me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run 
>> and that I also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS 
&

RE: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

[Alan Lemly]

Actually, that is not correct. If an Apple Store happens to have stock with
iOS 6 on it, you can restore a backup to that device and continue to run it
without upgrading to iOS 7. I did it today.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

 

No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now
running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You
must choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

 

Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of
this process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it
cant be done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has
an iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

 

I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a
lot more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an
iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS
6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not
interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack
on my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle
with the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume
coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the
earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods,
the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work
until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once
and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware
issue.

 

I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the
senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version
it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going
to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that
they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me
containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a
restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.

 

I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7
on it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation
process and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's
signing of it. I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on
their computers, installing that version requires an action and signing or
"blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple
senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and that's why
I'm posting this message. I did download the
iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September
20th from a link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I
need someone in the know to explain if I could successfully install this on
a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I think I understand that this
can't be done from what I've read posted here.

 

I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't
need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7.
Believe me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run
and that I also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS
6.1.4 if I talk to the right person.

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

[Chris H]

Hello all
i can confirm that my new phone came with iOS 7 preinstalled so just 
shows there's no going back.

i absolutely love it though on the phone.


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On 01/10/2013 21:36, David Chittenden wrote:

No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now 
running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You must 
choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of this 
process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it can’t be 
done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has an iPhone 
5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a lot 
more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an iPhone 
5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS 6.1.4. 
I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not 
interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack on 
my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle with the 
plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume coming out 
of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the earpods working. 
I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods, the volume is lower 
than it should be and the headset buttons don't work until I get the connection 
right. I've already had the earpods replaced once and this did not help so I'm 
convinced this is a earphone jack hardware issue.

I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the 
senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version it 
comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going to the 
Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that they have 
in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me containing a 
full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a restore and get my 
apps and other things on the new phone.

I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7 on it and 
here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation process and what I believe 
I've heard folks on this list call Apple's signing of it. I take this to mean that even 
if one has a version of iOS on their computers, installing that version requires an 
action and signing or "blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its 
installation. The Apple senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and 
that's why I'm posting this message. I did download the 
iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September 20th from a 
link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I need someone in the know 
to explain if I could successfully install this on a new iPhone and what the steps would 
be. I think I understand that this can't be done from what I've read posted here.

I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't need 
is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7. Believe me 
when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run and that I also 
think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS 6.1.4 if I talk to the 
right person.

Thanks.

Alan Lemly
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Re: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

[David Chittenden]

No, this cannot be done. All of Apples replacement and new iPhones are now 
running iOS 7, and they cannot be downgraded to the previous version. You must 
choose between a faulty headset jack and iOS 7.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Oct 2013, at 6:49, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
>  
> Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of this 
> process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it can’t be 
> done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which has an 
> iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7
>  
> I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a lot 
> more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an 
> iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS 
> 6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not 
> interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack on 
> my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle with 
> the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume 
> coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the 
> earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods, 
> the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work 
> until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once 
> and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware issue.
>  
> I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the 
> senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version 
> it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going 
> to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that 
> they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me 
> containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a 
> restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.
>  
> I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7 on 
> it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation process 
> and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's signing of it. 
> I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on their computers, 
> installing that version requires an action and signing or "blessing" if you 
> will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple senior advisor I spoke 
> with didn't seem to understand this and that's why I'm posting this message. 
> I did download the iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the 
> morning of September 20th from a link provided on this list. This file is 
> about 1GB in size but I need someone in the know to explain if I could 
> successfully install this on a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I 
> think I understand that this can't be done from what I've read posted here.
>  
> I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't 
> need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7. Believe 
> me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run and that I 
> also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS 6.1.4 if I talk 
> to the right person.
>  
> Thanks.
>  
> Alan Lemly
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RE: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

 

Correct, when you try to restore to iOS 6.1.3, a verification is part of
this process and this is where you will most likely get a message that it
can't be done. Your chosen course is best, i.e. find an Apple Store which
has an iPhone 5 on a shelf which still have version 6.1.3 on it.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 10:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 Warranty Replacement Without iOS 7

 

I need some advice from those of you who have dealt with Apple and know a
lot more than I do about IOS versions and Apple's signing of them. I have an
iPhone 5, 64GB that I purchased in February of this year that is running iOS
6.1.4. I'm not saying I'm not ever upgrading to iOS 7 but I'm definitely not
interested in doing so at this time. My problem is that the headphone jack
on my phone is faulty. I use the earpods extensively and I have to fiddle
with the plug every time I plug in the headset until I get the proper volume
coming out of the earpods and get the volume and remote buttons on the
earpods working. I'd say that 90+% of the time when I plug in the earpods,
the volume is lower than it should be and the headset buttons don't work
until I get the connection right. I've already had the earpods replaced once
and this did not help so I'm convinced this is a earphone jack hardware
issue.

 

I would have preferred Apple replacing the phone through the mail but the
senior advisor I spoke with tells me that they can't request the iOS version
it comes with and he's fairly certain it will come with iOS 7. So I'm going
to the Apple Store tomorrow and hoping that any 64GB black iPhone 5's that
they have in stock still have iOS 6.1 on them. I will take my laptop with me
containing a full encrypted backup using iTunes from which I can run a
restore and get my apps and other things on the new phone.

 

I'm curious if Apple had sent me a replacement through the mail with iOS 7
on it and here's where I need help in understanding the iOS installation
process and what I believe I've heard folks on this list call Apple's
signing of it. I take this to mean that even if one has a version of iOS on
their computers, installing that version requires an action and signing or
"blessing" if you will from Apple as part of its installation. The Apple
senior advisor I spoke with didn't seem to understand this and that's why
I'm posting this message. I did download the
iPhone5,1_6.1.4_10B350_Restore.ipsw file about 1am the morning of September
20th from a link provided on this list. This file is about 1GB in size but I
need someone in the know to explain if I could successfully install this on
a new iPhone and what the steps would be. I think I understand that this
can't be done from what I've read posted here.

 

I appreciate anything helpful anyone could post on my issue. What I don't
need is someone trying to convince me why I should just accept iOS 7.
Believe me when I say I've thought extensively about the iOS I want to run
and that I also think Apple could get me a replacement iPhone 5 with iOS
6.1.4 if I talk to the right person.

 

Thanks.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

just to add, check out this article about unlocked Verizon iPhones.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57518379-37/verizon-iphone-5-comes-unlocked-usable-on-at-t/

hth

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On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Steve  wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
> week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
> separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you can 
> roam internationally with the CDMA model.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the one 
> released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you own 
> your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible for 
> you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Donald,
>> 
>> Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T network.  
>> The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big four carriers 
>> Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service while AT&T and 
>> T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the phones between the 
>> two CDMA carriers.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
>> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
>> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
>> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
>> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
>> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
>> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
>> contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
>> 
>> Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

A Verizon iPhone 5 or later will definitely work on a GSM network like AT&T.  
The only set back is they use different LTE bands so, you won’t be able to use 
4G.

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 27, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Steve  wrote:

> Ricardo,
> 
> That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
> week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
> separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you can 
> roam internationally with the CDMA model.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Ricardo Walker" 
> To: "viphone" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the one 
> released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you own 
> your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible for 
> you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Donald,
>> 
>> Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T network.  
>> The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big four carriers 
>> Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service while AT&T and 
>> T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the phones between the 
>> two CDMA carriers.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
>>  wrote:
>> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
>> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
>> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
>> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
>> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
>> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
>> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
>> contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
>> 
>> Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Steve]

Ricardo,

That is not what the representative at MyApple told me when I checked last 
week.  It is confusing though as they list the same model number but have a 
separate listing for the Gsm model versus the CDMA model, even though you 
can roam internationally with the CDMA model.


- Original Message - 
From: "Ricardo Walker" 

To: "viphone" 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 2:12 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question


Hi,

This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the 
one released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you 
own your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible 
for you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.


hth

Ricardo Walker
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On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:


Donald,

Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T 
network.  The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big 
four carriers Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service 
while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the 
phones between the two CDMA carriers.


Todd



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
 wrote:
An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering 
switching to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want 
to do that. But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will 
work if he merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it 
locked to Verizon in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not 
interested in an international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T 
and T. Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect 
that he is still under contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.


Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.

Don Roberts

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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Alan Paganelli]

I understand Don.  They never charge what I think they should but that's 
just me.  My wife and I both have iPhones with unlimited talk and text plus 
2 gigs each worth of data for $160 a month.  I think that's highway robbery.

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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question





On 9/26 Alan Paganelli wrote:


I have been perfectly happy

with the service I've got from them.  So did you have some problem with
AT&T that gives you pause for concern that might interest the rest of
us?


No, Alan, nothing major. I just don't appreciate what I perceive to be A T 
and T's exorbitant pricing. Although, my iPhone 4 is running on the 
Verizon network, I am not with Verizon, I have Page Plus which is far less 
costly and meets my needs just fine. Different strokes for different 
folks.


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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Donald L. Roberts]

On 9/26 Alan Paganelli wrote:


I have been perfectly happy

with the service I've got from them.  So did you have some problem with
AT&T that gives you pause for concern that might interest the rest of
us?


No, Alan, nothing major. I just don't appreciate what I perceive to be A 
T and T's exorbitant pricing. Although, my iPhone 4 is running on the 
Verizon network, I am not with Verizon, I have Page Plus which is far 
less costly and meets my needs just fine. Different strokes for 
different folks.


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Re: iPhone 5 S speed difference

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi Sieghard.

I am not James, but I experience the same. When I am opening apps, and when I 
am working with braille I notice some slugishness, I would not have expected 
that. I have an IPad 2, and that runs in fact better than I have thought, so I 
am wondering if there is a bug somewhere.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 26, 2013 kl. 10:42 PM skrev Sieghard Weitzel :

> Hi James,
> 
> Could you give 2 or 3 specific examples of tasks you are doing where you
> experience this sluggishness? I have a 5S on order, but my 4S right now runs
> very well with Voiceover and I have no problems with sluggishness.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
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> Subject: iPhone 5 S speed difference
> 
> I have an iPhone 5 and iOS seven. I noticed that iOS 7 seems sluggish with
> voice over. Has anyone bought an iPhone 5 S and if so do they notice a speed
> difference
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RE: iPhone 5 S speed difference

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi James,

Could you give 2 or 3 specific examples of tasks you are doing where you
experience this sluggishness? I have a 5S on order, but my 4S right now runs
very well with Voiceover and I have no problems with sluggishness.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of James Lockwood
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:41 AM
To: iphone group
Subject: iPhone 5 S speed difference

I have an iPhone 5 and iOS seven. I noticed that iOS 7 seems sluggish with
voice over. Has anyone bought an iPhone 5 S and if so do they notice a speed
difference



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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Mike Arrigo]

Actually, the verizon iphone has GSM capabilities, the only question is 
whether it will allow you to use the at&t sim card, if indeed the phone 
is not sim locked, it should work.

Original message:

Donald,


Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T 
network. The two carriers use different radio technologies. Of the big 
four carriers Verizon and Sprint use CDMA technology for cellular 
service while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM. It's not even possible to 
switch the phones between the two CDMA carriers.



Todd





On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
mailto:donald.robert...@gmail.com>> wrote:



An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering 
switching to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would 
want to do that. But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 
5 will work if he merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, 
is it locked to Verizon in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. 
He is not interested in an international unlock, he merely wants to 
switch to A T and T. Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a 
year ago, I suspect that he is still under contract to Verizon; so that 
may be an issue.



Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.



Don Roberts



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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Alan Paganelli]

Donald, I've been with AT&T over 2 years and have traveled through some wide 
open spaces where people said you'll never get a signal there and yet I 
still had a connection to my carrier.  I have been perfectly happy with the 
service I've got from them.  So did you have some problem with AT&T that 
gives you pause for concern that might interest the rest of us?  My wife and 
I are both sick with bad colds and so have not felt well enough to go to the 
store and buy our iPhone 5s's.  This would be the time to switch carriers if 
we need to which is why I'm asking.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Donald L. Roberts" 

To: "Viphone" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:08 PM
Subject: iPhone 5 carrier lock question


An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering 
switching to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want 
to do that. But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will 
work if he merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it 
locked to Verizon in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not 
interested in an international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T 
and T. Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect 
that he is still under contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.


Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.

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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Todd W]

Hmmm...didn't know that.  Thanks for the correction.  I'd seen some people
who switched between AT&T and T-Mobile but didn't realize the radio in the
5 is universal.

Todd



On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi,
>
> This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the
> one released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if
> you own your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it
> possible for you to use that phone on AT&T’s network.
>
> hth
>
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> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:
>
> > Donald,
> >
> > Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T
> network.  The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big
> four carriers Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service
> while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the
> phones between the two CDMA carriers.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts <
> donald.robert...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering
> switching to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to
> do that. But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work
> if he merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to
> Verizon in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested
> in an international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T.
> Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he
> is still under contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
> >
> > Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
> >
> > Don Roberts
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

This is actually not true.  all iPhone 5 phones with the exception of the one 
released for T-mobile in February, have all the same radios.  And if you own 
your phone out right on Verizon, an unlock code should make it possible for you 
to use that phone on AT&T’s network.

hth

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On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:06 PM, Todd W  wrote:

> Donald,
> 
> Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T network.  
> The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big four carriers 
> Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service while AT&T and 
> T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the phones between the 
> two CDMA carriers.  
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Donald L. Roberts 
>  wrote:
> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
> contract to Verizon; so that may be an issue.
> 
> Thanks for any clarification on the phone's usability on A T and T.
> 
> Don Roberts
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Todd W]

Donald,

Unfortunately it's not possible to use a Verizon phone on the AT&T
network.  The two carriers use different radio technologies.  Of the big
four carriers Verizon and Sprint use  CDMA technology for cellular service
while AT&T and T-Mobile use GSM.  It's not even possible to switch the
phones between the two CDMA carriers.

Todd



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> in an international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T.
> Incidentally, since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he
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Re: iPhone 5 carrier lock question

[Julian]

Hi,

>From what I understand the Sim portion of the Verizon iPhone 5 is unlocked so 
>he should be able to put in AT&T Sim card in there and have it work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:08 PM, "Donald L. Roberts"  
> wrote:
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> An acquaintance is using an iPhone 5 on Verizon. He is considering switching 
> to A T and T. Not sure why anyone in his right mind would want to do that. 
> But, be that as it may, he wants to know if the iPhone 5 will work if he 
> merely puts an A T and T nano sim in the phone; or, is it locked to Verizon 
> in such a way that it won't work on A T and T. He is not interested in an 
> international unlock, he merely wants to switch to A T and T. Incidentally, 
> since the 5 came out less than a year ago, I suspect that he is still under 
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> 
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Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Andy Baracco]

Sounds like a hardware issue. I would get a replacement.

Andy

From: Sherrie 
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
About 6 months ago my Apple earpods just stopped working completely on my 
iPhone 5.  They work just fine on any other gadget.  I tried three different 
sets to be sure.
I bought some Samsung earphones for about $4.95 from Amazon and they work to 
start and stop the music or books as well as to control Siri. Only the one 
button works on the Samsung earphones but it is the one I need.
I am hoping that perhaps the IOS 7 will restore the capacity to use the Apple 
earpods. Eventually I may have to replace the phone because of the earphone 
problem and the fact that the home button will no longer close a folder.  And 
the power button will not work at all.  The iPhone goes to sleep only after the 
allotted amount of time has passed.
When I first started having the earpod problems I did several hard resets and 
even restored the whole iPhone from a backup.  No luck.
If it didn’t cost $200 to replace it through the insurance I would do so ASAP.
Sherrie



From: Arnold Schmidt 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power 
button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing 
that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get 
turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this reset 
with no problem.  

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM
  Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

  Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will 
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy 
before I attempt one.



  Alan Lemly



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons 
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me, others 
on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a computer 
with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it turns it off for 
you.



  Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Paganelli 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

    Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
nothing to lose and it might work.

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 

  From: Alan Lemly 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM

  Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with 
my Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons do 
anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note 
that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that the 
earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the first 
time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the cycle 
always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to work 
even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under 
warranty.



  I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to 
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a 
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there 
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.



  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



  Alan Lemly

  -- 

RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks for everyone's comments on this thread. After playing around some
more with my earpods and iPhone 5, fiddling around with the earpods plug in
the jack either through rotation or re-seating will eventually cause the
volume icon to flash on the screen after which I get a slight volume boost
and the control buttons on the earpods then work. This has to be a hardware
problem so after the iPhone 5S/FC new release storm passes, I'll get my
phone replaced since it's still under warranty.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Hi Sherry,

 

If you have an iPhone 5 it must be just under 1 year old even now since it
was only released on September 19 or 20 last year so if you had this problem
6 months ago, why are you not simply asking Apple to replace the phone, it
should not cost you a Cent since it has a one-year warranty. What you
describe sounds definitely like warranty to me, I have gotten my phones
replaced for less over the years.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sherrie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

About 6 months ago my Apple earpods just stopped working completely on my
iPhone 5.  They work just fine on any other gadget.  I tried three different
sets to be sure.

I bought some Samsung earphones for about $4.95 from Amazon and they work to
start and stop the music or books as well as to control Siri. Only the one
button works on the Samsung earphones but it is the one I need.

I am hoping that perhaps the IOS 7 will restore the capacity to use the
Apple earpods. Eventually I may have to replace the phone because of the
earphone problem and the fact that the home button will no longer close a
folder.  And the power button will not work at all.  The iPhone goes to
sleep only after the allotted amount of time has passed.

When I first started having the earpod problems I did several hard resets
and even restored the whole iPhone from a backup.  No luck.

If it didn't cost $200 to replace it through the insurance I would do so
ASAP.

Sherrie

 

 

 

From: Arnold <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>  Schmidt 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:07 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power
button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing
that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get
turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this
reset with no problem.  

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM

Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy
before I attempt one.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me,
others on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a
computer with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it
turns it off for you.

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>  Paganelli 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've
got nothing to lose and it might work.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmai

RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sherry,

 

If you have an iPhone 5 it must be just under 1 year old even now since it
was only released on September 19 or 20 last year so if you had this problem
6 months ago, why are you not simply asking Apple to replace the phone, it
should not cost you a Cent since it has a one-year warranty. What you
describe sounds definitely like warranty to me, I have gotten my phones
replaced for less over the years.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sherrie
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

About 6 months ago my Apple earpods just stopped working completely on my
iPhone 5.  They work just fine on any other gadget.  I tried three different
sets to be sure.

I bought some Samsung earphones for about $4.95 from Amazon and they work to
start and stop the music or books as well as to control Siri. Only the one
button works on the Samsung earphones but it is the one I need.

I am hoping that perhaps the IOS 7 will restore the capacity to use the
Apple earpods. Eventually I may have to replace the phone because of the
earphone problem and the fact that the home button will no longer close a
folder.  And the power button will not work at all.  The iPhone goes to
sleep only after the allotted amount of time has passed.

When I first started having the earpod problems I did several hard resets
and even restored the whole iPhone from a backup.  No luck.

If it didn't cost $200 to replace it through the insurance I would do so
ASAP.

Sherrie

 

 

 

From: Arnold Schmidt <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>  

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:07 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power
button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing
that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get
turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this
reset with no problem.  

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM

Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy
before I attempt one.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me,
others on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a
computer with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it
turns it off for you.

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Paganelli <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've
got nothing to lose and it might work.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM

Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with my
Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons
do anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I
note that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells
that the earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work
the first time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas
the cycle always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they
seem to work even

Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[David Chittenden]

That actually sounds like hardware problems, not software problems.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 15/09/2013, at 23:40, "Sherrie"  wrote:

> About 6 months ago my Apple earpods just stopped working completely on my 
> iPhone 5.  They work just fine on any other gadget.  I tried three different 
> sets to be sure.
> I bought some Samsung earphones for about $4.95 from Amazon and they work  to 
> start and stop the music or books as well as to control Siri. Only the one 
> button works on the Samsung earphones but it is the one I need.
> I am hoping that perhaps the IOS 7 will restore the capacity to use the Apple 
> earpods. Eventually I may have to replace the phone because of the earphone 
> problem and the fact that the home button will no longer close a folder.  And 
> the power button will not work at all.  The iPhone goes to sleep only after 
> the allotted amount of time has passed.
> When I first started having the earpod problems I did several hard resets and 
> even restored the whole iPhone from a backup.  No luck.
> If it didn’t cost $200 to replace it through the insurance I would do so ASAP.
> Sherrie
>  
>  
>  
> From: Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
>  
> Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power 
> button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing 
> that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get 
> turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this reset 
> with no problem. 
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message -----
> From: Alan Lemly
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM
> Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
>  
> Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will 
> definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy 
> before I attempt one.
>  
> Alan Lemly
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
>  
> You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons 
> sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me, 
> others on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a 
> computer with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it turns 
> it off for you.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Paganelli
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
>  
> Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  It's 
> a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
> nothing to lose and it might work.
> ---
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Alan
>  
> Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
>  
> Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
> Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
>  
> Please click on: 
> http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
> There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
> the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
> website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
> - Original Message -
> From: Alan Lemly
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM
> Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results
>  
> I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with my 
> Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
> buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons 
> do anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I 
> note that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that 
> the earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the 
> first time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the 
> cycle always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to 
> work even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple 
> under warranty.
>  
> I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone a

Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Sherrie]

About 6 months ago my Apple earpods just stopped working completely on my 
iPhone 5.  They work just fine on any other gadget.  I tried three different 
sets to be sure.
I bought some Samsung earphones for about $4.95 from Amazon and they work to 
start and stop the music or books as well as to control Siri. Only the one 
button works on the Samsung earphones but it is the one I need.
 
I am hoping that perhaps the IOS 7 will restore the capacity to use the Apple 
earpods. Eventually I may have to replace the phone because of the earphone 
problem and the fact that the home button will no longer close a folder.  And 
the power button will not work at all.  The iPhone goes to sleep only after the 
allotted amount of time has passed.
When I first started having the earpod problems I did several hard resets and 
even restored the whole iPhone from a backup.  No luck.
If it didn’t cost $200 to replace it through the insurance I would do so ASAP.
Sherrie



From: Arnold Schmidt 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 7:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power 
button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing 
that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get 
turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this reset 
with no problem.  

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM
  Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

  Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will 
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy 
before I attempt one.



  Alan Lemly



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons 
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me, others 
on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a computer 
with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it turns it off for 
you.



  Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Paganelli 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

    Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
nothing to lose and it might work.

---



Regards,



Alan



Go Chicago Bears in 2013!



Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.



Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 

  From: Alan Lemly 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM

  Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with 
my Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons do 
anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note 
that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that the 
earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the first 
time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the cycle 
always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to work 
even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under 
warranty.



  I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to 
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a 
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there 
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.



  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



  Alan Lemly

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Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Arnold Schmidt]

Backing up your device always is a good idea.  But the home and power 
button reset shouldn't erase anything,  VoiceOver probably is the only thing 
that potentially gets turned off. And some on the list say it doesn't get 
turned off on their devices.  Those who can read the screen can do this reset 
with no problem.  

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 4:47 PM
  Subject: RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results


  Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will 
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy 
before I attempt one.



  Alan Lemly



  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons 
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me, others 
on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a computer 
with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it turns it off for 
you.



  Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Paganelli 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

    Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
nothing to lose and it might work.

---



Regards,



Alan



Go Chicago Bears in 2013!



Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.



Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 

  From: Alan Lemly 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM

  Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results



  I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with 
my Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons do 
anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note 
that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that the 
earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the first 
time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the cycle 
always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to work 
even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under 
warranty.



  I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to 
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a 
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there 
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.



  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



  Alan Lemly

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Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Christopher Chaltain]

If the system is still responding, couldn't you just power it off and 
power it back on instead of doing a reset? Hold the lock button down for 
a few seconds until you hear slide to power down and then double tap the 
screen. After 20 seconds or so, press the lock button for 5 seconds or 
so and wait for the phone to come back on.


On 09/14/2013 03:02 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power
buttons sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time
for me, others on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would
be near a computer with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just
in case it turns it off for you.
Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message -
*From:* Alan Paganelli <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM
    *Subject:* Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten
seconds.  It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings,
apps, etc.  You've got nothing to lose and it might work.
---
Regards,
Alan
Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now!  Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.
Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
<http://www.home.earthlink.net/%7Ealanandsuzanne/>
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!

- Original Message -
*From:* Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM
*Subject:* iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm
having with my Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use
of its remote and volume buttons. Often, when using the earpods,
neither its volume or remote buttons do anything. However, if I
power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note that the
volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that
the earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always
work the first time but eventually the earpod button functions
return but alas the cycle always repeats. I've tried other
earpods with buttons and they seem to work even less frequently
including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under warranty.

I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less
inclined to consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced
this isn't purely a headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and
thought I'd throw this out there since there are many smart
folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Alan Lemly

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RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Alan Lemly]

Thanks, Arnold. I was aware of that potential with a reset and I will
definitely do a complete backup to my computer and have it and iTunes handy
before I attempt one.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me,
others on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a
computer with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it
turns it off for you.

 

Arnold Schmidt

- Original Message - 

From: Alan <mailto:alanandsuza...@earthlink.net>  Paganelli 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM

Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.
It's a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've
got nothing to lose and it might work.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Alan Lemly <mailto:wale...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM

Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with my
Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons
do anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I
note that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells
that the earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work
the first time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas
the cycle always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they
seem to work even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got
from Apple under warranty.

 

I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Arnold Schmidt]

You should be warned that doing the reset with the home and power buttons 
sometimes turns off VoiceOver.  It has turned it off every time for me, others 
on this list say it has never turned it off.  So, I would be near a computer 
with iTunes, or sighted help before trying it, just in case it turns it off for 
you.

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results


  Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  It's 
a restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
nothing to lose and it might work.
  ---

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  Alan

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  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM
Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results


I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with 
my Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons do 
anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note 
that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that the 
earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the first 
time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the cycle 
always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to work 
even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under 
warranty.



I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to 
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a 
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there 
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.



Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



Alan Lemly


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RE: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Rick Alfaro]

If other similar type headsets have the same issue, I would say your only
real choices are to try a complete phone reset after having performed a
backup of course, or taking it into an Apple Store as it's possible that the
headphone jack could be defective.  JMO.

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

 

I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with my
Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons
do anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I
note that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells
that the earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work
the first time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas
the cycle always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they
seem to work even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got
from Apple under warranty.

 

I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to
consider a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a
headset issue. I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there
since there are many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.

 

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

 

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Re: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results

[Alan Paganelli]

Try this.  Hold down the power button and the home key for ten seconds.  It's a 
restart and will not effect any of your settings, apps, etc.  You've got 
nothing to lose and it might work.
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Lemly 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 12:29 PM
  Subject: iPhone 5 and Inconsistent Headset Remote Results


  I'm looking for some suggestions for correcting a problem I'm having with my 
Apple Earpods that came with my iPhone 5 and use of its remote and volume 
buttons. Often, when using the earpods, neither its volume or remote buttons do 
anything. However, if I power off my phone, when I power it back on, I note 
that the volume on reboot seems a bit louder which always foretells that the 
earpod buttons will then work. This rebooting doesn't always work the first 
time but eventually the earpod button functions return but alas the cycle 
always repeats. I've tried other earpods with buttons and they seem to work 
even less frequently including a replacement earpod set I got from Apple under 
warranty.



  I'm not a big fan of resetting my phone and am even less inclined to consider 
a phone replacement since I'm not convinced this isn't purely a headset issue. 
I am running iOS 6.1.4 and thought I'd throw this out there since there are 
many smart folks on this list and I'm seeking ideas.



  Thanks in advance for any suggestions.



  Alan Lemly


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Re: iPhone 5 rugged oversized hip holster for sale

[Christopher Chaltain]

The owner/moderator have a pretty well defined policy for allowing 
people to post products for sale on the list and then dealing with 
people who don't follow this policy. I'd suggest just letting the 
moderators handle it.


On 07/30/2013 01:49 PM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

You know, I don't mind somebody posting something they have to sell but
this sure is starting to sound like a regular add. Wouldn't it be better
to start your own list and advertise there?
I'm not trying to start a list argument or have anything against you.
However, it would only be fair to let others do the same thing.  Even if
it is Apple related, soon the list could become over ran with for sale
adds.  I'd really not want to see that happen.  This list is already a
high traffic list.
Just my humble opinion.
Regards,
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- Original Message -
*From:* Brent Harbolt 
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:39 AM
*Subject:* iPhone 5 rugged oversized hip holster for sale

Hi all. Please email me off list at harb...@gmail.com
 if you have any questions or are
interested in this item. I have for sale a really nice and rugged
oversized iPhone 5 vertical hip holster. It is made out of canvas
and secures by a Velcro flap. This is a really well made and nice
hip holster. I much prefer the Velcro closure over the magnetic one.
This will take an iPhone 5 with a pretty good sized case on it. So,
if you had a Mophi Juice pack on your phone or an otterbox, this
holster would accommodate it. Keeps your phone very nice and
protected and yet easily in reach. The belt clip is a nice heavy
duty metal clip and it also has a place for a belt to slide through.
These are new in package. $20 plus shipping. Please email me at
harb...@gmail.com  if interested. Thanks.
Brent Harbolt

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Re: iPhone 5 rugged oversized hip holster for sale

[Alan Paganelli]

You know, I don't mind somebody posting something they have to sell but this 
sure is starting to sound like a regular add.  Wouldn't it be better to start 
your own list and advertise there?

I'm not trying to start a list argument or have anything against you.  However, 
it would only be fair to let others do the same thing.  Even if it is Apple 
related, soon the list could become over ran with for sale adds.  I'd really 
not want to see that happen.  This list is already a high traffic list.

Just my humble opinion.


Regards,

Alan

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Brent Harbolt 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 11:39 AM
  Subject: iPhone 5 rugged oversized hip holster for sale


  Hi all. Please email me off list at harb...@gmail.com if you have any 
questions or are interested in this item. I have for sale a really nice and 
rugged oversized iPhone 5 vertical hip holster. It is made out of canvas and 
secures by a Velcro flap. This is a really well made and nice hip holster. I 
much prefer the Velcro closure over the magnetic one. This will take an iPhone 
5 with a pretty good sized case on it. So, if you had a Mophi Juice pack on 
your phone or an otterbox, this holster would accommodate it. Keeps your phone 
very nice and protected and yet easily in reach. The belt clip is a nice heavy 
duty metal clip and it also has a place for a belt to slide through. These are 
new in package. $20 plus shipping. Please email me at harb...@gmail.com if 
interested. Thanks.

  Brent Harbolt

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RE: IPhone 5 Holster Case

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Eric,

 

That sounds exactly like the one I have and which you can find on
Monoprice.com for $5 something. I guess less than $3 extra aren't a big deal
especially if maybe you have a couple of items more and get free shipping
from Amazon. It is my case of choice as well because the belt clip can hold
the phone upright or sideways and sideways is the way it has to be if you
want to get the most out of BlindSquare.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of SSEric
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IPhone 5 Holster Case

 

This is a pretty sweet little case for under eight dollars shipped. It
consists of two parts. First is a case your phone slips in. It is a hard
shell plastic with some pebbling texture. It holds the phone on either side
with the top and bottom and screen exposed. The volume controls and other
buttons are accessible, and the camera does have a cut out. On the back of
this part of the case is a kickstand. The second part is a belt clip
holster. The phone and case slip down into it and is held at three points.
You could put it in facing inward or out. The belt clip may stick out a bit
far. The clip does swivel with little cliks so you can position it at
whatever angle you like.

Below is the Amazon link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00A02CUTC/ref=ya_aw_oh_pit

 

Eric

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RE: iPhone 5 Case recommendation

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Lisa,

I have cases where the same thing happens, the headphone jack on the Earpods
is super slim. I know this is not a case alternative, but I personally would
probably ask a sighted person to enlarge the opening on the cases carefully
and in a way so it would not look like it shouldn't be this way from the
start. This way you can still colour your life with all the different cases
and cute pawprints.



Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lisa belville
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 6:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 5 Case recommendation

Hi, all.

I realize this case for iPhone discussion has taken place before, but I'm
running into an unforeseen issue, and I'm hoping I can get some
recommendations.

I purchased a set of 10 inexpensive TPU cases from Amazon.com.  As far as I
could tell, the cases would work perfectly for my phone, and they did except
for one issue.

The headphone access is so narrow that only the ear buds from Apple or other
very narrow headphones can be used with them.  I have other headphones that
I prefer due to comfort and sound and they absolutely will not connect to
the phone when it is in this case.

It appears as if the diameter of the part of the headphone you use to
connect is too large to fit into the port opening.  I'm not speaking of the
actual headphone jack, all of my phones are 3.5 mm jacks.  I'm speaking of
the connection the jack is attached to, Sometimes this is an "L" shape, and
sometimes it's just a straight cylindrical portion blending into the cable
itself.  I have both types of varying diameter, all larger than the Apple
ear bud things.

I could get the headphones semi-connected, but I really had to force the
jack into the connector, and the connection wasn't solid.  I was afraid I'd
hurt the phone, so stopped and removed the phone from the case.  I tried
inserting the connector into the slot on the empty case and it barely fit,
but this was without the phone pulling the case tight, and there's not much
give in the TPU material anyway once it's stretched over the phone.

I managed to trim off a portion of the case to work with my various wider
diameter headphones, but this is obviously not a desirable solution.

The cases in question are the ColorYourLife 10pcs 3D Paw Print Snug-fit
Flexible TPU Cases Skins Covers for iPhone 5 which you can read about at
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A1C4R10/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UT
F8&psc=1.

I really love these things as compared to the Otterbox Defender case. 
They're easy to put on and take off, and they come in 10 different colors
and really complement the iPhone.  Plus they've got the really cute paw
prints.  

Yes, the Otterbox protects the phone, but it also makes it huge and very
bulky.  Not to mention a royal pain to remove and put on the phone.  Are
there any lightweight, relatively inexpensive TPU cases that will address my
issue with the headphone?

Lisa


If I want to hear the pitter patter of little feet I'll put shoes on my Dog!

Lisa Belville
missktlab1...@frontier.com

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RE: iphone 5 8gb.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

No, only 8 Gb model you can get is a 4S. Most likely Apple will offer an 8
GB iPhone 5 when the new iPhone comes out in September.

 

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Subject: iphone 5 8gb.

 

hi

just want to ask: does apple provide iphone 5 8 gp or not.

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Re: cases was Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Eric,

I have a brilliant PI 40 and the case is great. I wouldn't be without it. It's 
very portable, and it has the feel of the unit really being securely in place.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 30, 2013, at 3:36 AM, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Hi, It's worth noting that brailliant BI and Focus Blue are supported with 
> executive leather products cases for better portability and protection than 
> any of the stock cases which ship with the units.  I haven't read that 
> there's a case for the braille edge but there ott to be.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
> 
> On 2013-05-25, at 12:40 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jim.
>> 
>> I would wait a little, and buy a brailliant, I have the 32 cells that is a 
>> great display, it has a bug, that I have heard would be solved in the near 
>> future.
>> 
>> I will really recommend a display with a good bag. The focus can fell out 
>> and be harmed. There are problems with the braille cells. Apple has also 
>> created a problem that makes focus a pain. You can only go to next line with 
>> the button in the right edge of the display. If you read with your right 
>> hand, and will use the left for going to new line it is not possible at the 
>> moment. Again I am not impressed with the cells.
>> 
>> I have always used 40 cells display. I have been told that it is the best 
>> with a long display. I have figured out, that 40 cells maybe is to long a 
>> display. It can be an advantage in a few situations, but if you are reading 
>> much as I am, I would really concider a shorter display. I think something 
>> about 24 cells would be a great length for a braille display.
>> 
>> Cheers Annie.
>> Den May 23, 2013 kl. 1:26 PM skrev Jim Noseworthy 
>> :
>> 
>>> Hi Folks:
>>> 
>>> I am looking to purchase a 40 cell Braille display for iPhone access.  Any 
>>> thoughts concerning the best one to purchase for this purpose?
>>> 
>>> Thanks all over the place gang.
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cases was Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[erik burggraaf]

Hi, It's worth noting that brailliant BI and Focus Blue are supported with 
executive leather products cases for better portability and protection than any 
of the stock cases which ship with the units.  I haven't read that there's a 
case for the braille edge but there ott to be.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the 
ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog
Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194
or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com

On 2013-05-25, at 12:40 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen  
wrote:

> Hi Jim.
> 
> I would wait a little, and buy a brailliant, I have the 32 cells that is a 
> great display, it has a bug, that I have heard would be solved in the near 
> future.
> 
> I will really recommend a display with a good bag. The focus can fell out and 
> be harmed. There are problems with the braille cells. Apple has also created 
> a problem that makes focus a pain. You can only go to next line with the 
> button in the right edge of the display. If you read with your right hand, 
> and will use the left for going to new line it is not possible at the moment. 
> Again I am not impressed with the cells.
> 
> I have always used 40 cells display. I have been told that it is the best 
> with a long display. I have figured out, that 40 cells maybe is to long a 
> display. It can be an advantage in a few situations, but if you are reading 
> much as I am, I would really concider a shorter display. I think something 
> about 24 cells would be a great length for a braille display.
> 
> Cheers Annie.
> Den May 23, 2013 kl. 1:26 PM skrev Jim Noseworthy 
> :
> 
>> Hi Folks:
>> 
>> I am looking to purchase a 40 cell Braille display for iPhone access.  Any 
>> thoughts concerning the best one to purchase for this purpose?
>> 
>> Thanks all over the place gang.
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Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Vicky Collins]

Hi Scott and All,

Of course, I would never want you to violate a NDA.  However, 
although I can't say for sure about the Edge as I have the Sense 
notetaker products; but, on the Tek Talk of Monday, May 13, about 
two thirds of the way through the program, I believe Jenny  Axler 
from HIMS describes the upcoming features of the Braille Edge.


- Original Message -
From: Scott Davert There are more controls on the Edge than the Focus 40 for some 
types
of navigation.  Also, there will be a new feature coming out with 
the
Braille Edge firmware which will give it some added 
functionality.  I

don't think I'm at liberty to talk about it yet, since I'm beta
testing it.
However, as you have most certainly found out if you have been
following this entire thread, no one display is going to be the 
best
for everyone.  Some people prefer 40 cells and others prefer 
fewer
cells.  Also, the feel of the braille on one device over another 
is

going to appeal to some and not to other people.

All the best,
Scott

On 5/26/13, dan Thompson  wrote:
Where do you get the New Kid Braille display?

verse of the Week

For we are God's masterpiece.  He has created us anew in Christ 
Jesus, so we


can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
   --Ephesians 2:10, NLT

"Lord Jesus, you satisfy the deepest longing of our heart and 
you feed us
with the finest of wheat (Psalm 81:16).  Fill me with gratitude 
and give me

a
generous heart that I may freely share with others what you have 
given to

me."
Psalm 27:1-4, 11-14
1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The 
LORD is the

stronghold of my life;  of whom shall I be afraid?
2 When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my 
adversaries

and
foes, they shall stumble and fall.
3 Though a host encamp against me, my heart shall not fear;  
though war

arise against me, yet I will be confident.
4 One thing have I asked of the LORD, that will I seek after;  
that I may
dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to 
behold the

beauty
of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple.
11 Teach me your way, O LORD; and lead me on a level path 
because of my

enemies.
12 Give me not up to the will of my adversaries; for false 
witnesses have

risen against me, and they breathe out violence.
13 I believe that I shall see the goodness of the LORD in the 
land of the

living!
14 Wait for the LORD; be strong, and let your heart take 
courage;  yes,

wait
for the LORD!
to ssubscribe, email dthomps...@mchsi.com with subscribe in the 
subject.

This email has been scanned by Microsoft Security Essentials

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf

Of Carla Savage
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:19 PM
To: I use a new kid on the block with my iphone very successfully, 
the Seika
Mini braille display.  I was looking for something small and 
lightweight
which I could take out and about, so I chose that one.  It's 
only 16 cells
but I'm pleased with the quality of the braille.  It's not too 
sharp which
some braille displays can be.  It works well with the iphone 
too.

Take care,
Cokes.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rose Combs  
wrote:


I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with 
the
phone, got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get 
used to
is not having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use 
the
keys above the cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not 
as

much as I thought I would.

Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long 
amounts of

anything with it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On

Behalf Of Personal
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is
because I used their note taking devices for so long.  The 
braille
seems to be more crisper then with other displays.  Although I 
do like

the 14 cell display that freedom scientific has.

Aaron Linson
Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle

On May 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "Raul A.  Gallegos"
Hi Annie and all.  I forgot to add in my last message that I 
have

found 32
cells to be the perfect portable reading length for me  In my 
search
for a Bluetooth display I could have easily gone with a model 
which
has 32-cells, but something about the Focus 40 Blue really sold 
me on
it and if they would have had a 32-cell version, I would have 
been
there instead.  I know the handytech ones and Humanware ones are 
proven
and are work-horses, but maybe I'm just drawn to new and shiny 
things.
I don't know.  Only time will tell how well the Focus 40 Blue 
pans out.
From the few people I've spoken with who have one, they have 
been

impressed also, and holding it in my hand

Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Scott Davert]

Hi Dan.
It's not actually called that, it's called the Seka Minni. Or in the
us, it's called the Perkins Mini. I don't like it because of the
keyboard lay-out, but again, that's personal preference.

Scott

On 5/28/13, Scott Davert  wrote:
> Hi Ahmed.
> There are more controls on the Edge than the Focus 40 for some types
> of navigation. Also, there will be a new feature coming out with the
> Braille Edge firmware which will give it some added functionality. I
> don't think I'm at liberty to talk about it yet, since I'm beta
> testing it.
> However, as you have most certainly found out if you have been
> following this entire thread, no one display is going to be the best
> for everyone. Some people prefer 40 cells and others prefer fewer
> cells. Also, the feel of the braille on one device over another is
> going to appeal to some and not to other people.
>
> All the best,
> Scott
>
> On 5/26/13, dan Thompson  wrote:
>> Where do you get the New Kid Braille display?
>>
>> verse of the Week
>>
>> For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so
>> we
>>
>> can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
>>--Ephesians 2:10, NLT
>>
>> "Lord Jesus, you satisfy the deepest longing of our heart and you feed us
>> with the finest of wheat (Psalm 81:16). Fill me with gratitude and give
>> me
>> a
>> generous heart that I may freely share with others what you have given to
>> me."
>> Psalm 27:1-4, 11-14
>> 1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is
>> the
>> stronghold of my life;  of whom shall I be afraid?
>> 2 When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my adversaries
>> and
>> foes, they shall stumble and fall.
>> 3 Though a host encamp against me, my heart shall not fear;  though war
>> arise against me, yet I will be confident.
>> 4 One thing have I asked of the LORD, that will I seek after;  that I may
>> dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the
>> beauty
>> of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple.
>> 11 Teach me your way, O LORD; and lead me on a level path because of my
>> enemies.
>> 12 Give me not up to the will of my adversaries; for false witnesses have
>> risen against me, and they breathe out violence.
>> 13 I believe that I shall see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the
>> living!
>> 14 Wait for the LORD; be strong, and let your heart take courage;  yes,
>> wait
>> for the LORD!
>> to ssubscribe, email dthomps...@mchsi.com with subscribe in the subject.
>> This email has been scanned by Microsoft Security Essentials
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Carla Savage
>> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:19 PM
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
>>
>> Hi,
>> I use a new kid on the block with my iphone very successfully, the Seika
>> Mini braille display. I was looking for something small and lightweight
>> which I could take out and about, so I chose that one. It's only 16 cells
>> but I'm pleased with the quality of the braille. It's not too sharp which
>> some braille displays can be. It works well with the iphone too.
>> Take care,
>> Cokes.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 27 May 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with the
>>> phone, got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get used to
>>> is not having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use the
>>> keys above the cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not as
>>> much as I thought I would.
>>>
>>> Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long amounts of
>>> anything with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Personal
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
>>>
>>> I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is
>>> because I used their note taking devices for so long. The braille
>>> seems to be more crisper then with other displays. Although I do like
>>> the 14 cell display that freedom scientific has.
>>>
>>> Aaron 

Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Scott Davert]

Hi Ahmed.
There are more controls on the Edge than the Focus 40 for some types
of navigation. Also, there will be a new feature coming out with the
Braille Edge firmware which will give it some added functionality. I
don't think I'm at liberty to talk about it yet, since I'm beta
testing it.
However, as you have most certainly found out if you have been
following this entire thread, no one display is going to be the best
for everyone. Some people prefer 40 cells and others prefer fewer
cells. Also, the feel of the braille on one device over another is
going to appeal to some and not to other people.

All the best,
Scott

On 5/26/13, dan Thompson  wrote:
> Where do you get the New Kid Braille display?
>
> verse of the Week
>
> For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we
>
> can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
>--Ephesians 2:10, NLT
>
> "Lord Jesus, you satisfy the deepest longing of our heart and you feed us
> with the finest of wheat (Psalm 81:16). Fill me with gratitude and give me
> a
> generous heart that I may freely share with others what you have given to
> me."
> Psalm 27:1-4, 11-14
> 1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the
> stronghold of my life;  of whom shall I be afraid?
> 2 When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my adversaries
> and
> foes, they shall stumble and fall.
> 3 Though a host encamp against me, my heart shall not fear;  though war
> arise against me, yet I will be confident.
> 4 One thing have I asked of the LORD, that will I seek after;  that I may
> dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the
> beauty
> of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple.
> 11 Teach me your way, O LORD; and lead me on a level path because of my
> enemies.
> 12 Give me not up to the will of my adversaries; for false witnesses have
> risen against me, and they breathe out violence.
> 13 I believe that I shall see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the
> living!
> 14 Wait for the LORD; be strong, and let your heart take courage;  yes,
> wait
> for the LORD!
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> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Carla Savage
> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:19 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
>
> Hi,
> I use a new kid on the block with my iphone very successfully, the Seika
> Mini braille display. I was looking for something small and lightweight
> which I could take out and about, so I chose that one. It's only 16 cells
> but I'm pleased with the quality of the braille. It's not too sharp which
> some braille displays can be. It works well with the iphone too.
> Take care,
> Cokes.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 27 May 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:
>
>> I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with the
>> phone, got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get used to
>> is not having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use the
>> keys above the cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not as
>> much as I thought I would.
>>
>> Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long amounts of
>> anything with it.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Personal
>> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
>>
>> I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is
>> because I used their note taking devices for so long. The braille
>> seems to be more crisper then with other displays. Although I do like
>> the 14 cell display that freedom scientific has.
>>
>> Aaron Linson
>> Once an Eagle
>> Always an Eagle
>>
>> On May 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Annie and all. I forgot to add in my last message that I have
>>> found 32
>> cells to be the perfect portable reading length for me. In my search
>> for a Bluetooth display I could have easily gone with a model which
>> has 32-cells, but something about the Focus 40 Blue really sold me on
>> it and if they would have had a 32-cell version, I would have been
>> there instead. I know the handytech ones and Humanware ones are proven
>> and are work-horses, but maybe I'm just 

RE: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[dan Thompson]

Where do you get the New Kid Braille display?

verse of the Week

For we are God's masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we 
can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
   --Ephesians 2:10, NLT

"Lord Jesus, you satisfy the deepest longing of our heart and you feed us
with the finest of wheat (Psalm 81:16). Fill me with gratitude and give me a
generous heart that I may freely share with others what you have given to
me." 
Psalm 27:1-4, 11-14 
1 The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? The LORD is the
stronghold of my life;  of whom shall I be afraid? 
2 When evildoers assail me, uttering slanders against me, my adversaries and
foes, they shall stumble and fall. 
3 Though a host encamp against me, my heart shall not fear;  though war
arise against me, yet I will be confident. 
4 One thing have I asked of the LORD, that will I seek after;  that I may
dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to behold the beauty
of the LORD, and to inquire in his temple. 
11 Teach me your way, O LORD; and lead me on a level path because of my
enemies. 
12 Give me not up to the will of my adversaries; for false witnesses have
risen against me, and they breathe out violence. 
13 I believe that I shall see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the
living! 
14 Wait for the LORD; be strong, and let your heart take courage;  yes, wait
for the LORD! 
to ssubscribe, email dthomps...@mchsi.com with subscribe in the subject.
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carla Savage
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:19 PM
To: 
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

Hi,
I use a new kid on the block with my iphone very successfully, the Seika
Mini braille display. I was looking for something small and lightweight
which I could take out and about, so I chose that one. It's only 16 cells
but I'm pleased with the quality of the braille. It's not too sharp which
some braille displays can be. It works well with the iphone too.
Take care,
Cokes.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:

> I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with the 
> phone, got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get used to 
> is not having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use the 
> keys above the cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not as 
> much as I thought I would.
> 
> Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long amounts of 
> anything with it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Personal
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
> 
> I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is 
> because I used their note taking devices for so long. The braille 
> seems to be more crisper then with other displays. Although I do like 
> the 14 cell display that freedom scientific has.
> 
> Aaron Linson
> Once an Eagle
> Always an Eagle
> 
> On May 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie and all. I forgot to add in my last message that I have 
>> found 32
> cells to be the perfect portable reading length for me. In my search 
> for a Bluetooth display I could have easily gone with a model which 
> has 32-cells, but something about the Focus 40 Blue really sold me on 
> it and if they would have had a 32-cell version, I would have been 
> there instead. I know the handytech ones and Humanware ones are proven 
> and are work-horses, but maybe I'm just drawn to new and shiny things. 
> I don't know. Only time will tell how well the Focus 40 Blue pans out. 
> From the few people I've spoken with who have one, they have been 
> impressed also, and holding it in my hands, and using it with my 
> iPhone during a presentation felt nice. I of course realize that using 
> something for 45 minutes isn't the same as for a week or longer, but
still, I liked it.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> If you're having a bad day, just remember in 1976 Ronald Wayne sold 
>> his 10% stake in Apple for $2,300. It is now worth $59,565,410,309. - 
>> Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
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Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Carla Savage]

Hi,
I use a new kid on the block with my iphone very successfully, the Seika Mini 
braille display. I was looking for something small and lightweight which I 
could take out and about, so I chose that one. It's only 16 cells but I'm 
pleased with the quality of the braille. It's not too sharp which some braille 
displays can be. It works well with the iphone too.
Take care,
Cokes.


Sent from my iPhone

On 27 May 2013, at 12:32 AM, Rose Combs  wrote:

> I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with the phone,
> got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get used to is not
> having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use the keys above the
> cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not as much as I thought I
> would.  
> 
> Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long amounts of
> anything with it.  
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Personal
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.
> 
> I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is because I
> used their note taking devices for so long. The braille seems to be more
> crisper then with other displays. Although I do like the 14 cell display
> that freedom scientific has.
> 
> Aaron Linson
> Once an Eagle
> Always an Eagle
> 
> On May 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Annie and all. I forgot to add in my last message that I have found 32
> cells to be the perfect portable reading length for me. In my search for a
> Bluetooth display I could have easily gone with a model which has 32-cells,
> but something about the Focus 40 Blue really sold me on it and if they would
> have had a 32-cell version, I would have been there instead. I know the
> handytech ones and Humanware ones are proven and are work-horses, but maybe
> I'm just drawn to new and shiny things. I don't know. Only time will tell
> how well the Focus 40 Blue pans out. From the few people I've spoken with
> who have one, they have been impressed also, and holding it in my hands, and
> using it with my iPhone during a presentation felt nice. I of course realize
> that using something for 45 minutes isn't the same as for a week or longer,
> but still, I liked it.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> If you're having a bad day, just remember in 1976 Ronald Wayne sold 
>> his 10% stake in Apple for $2,300. It is now worth $59,565,410,309. - 
>> Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
>> 
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RE: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

[Rose Combs]

I have a Braille note mPower, so obviously it won't connect with the phone,
got a RefreshaBraille and one of the things I can't get used to is not
having the thumb keys for operation, I hate having to use the keys above the
cells to go where  I want to go, I use it but not as much as I thought I
would.  

Size is OK but I just can't seem to adjust to reading long amounts of
anything with it.  


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Personal
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 and Braille display question.

I have always liked Humanware displays Myself but maybe that is because I
used their note taking devices for so long. The braille seems to be more
crisper then with other displays. Although I do like the 14 cell display
that freedom scientific has.

Aaron Linson
Once an Eagle
Always an Eagle

On May 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
wrote:

> Hi Annie and all. I forgot to add in my last message that I have found 32
cells to be the perfect portable reading length for me. In my search for a
Bluetooth display I could have easily gone with a model which has 32-cells,
but something about the Focus 40 Blue really sold me on it and if they would
have had a 32-cell version, I would have been there instead. I know the
handytech ones and Humanware ones are proven and are work-horses, but maybe
I'm just drawn to new and shiny things. I don't know. Only time will tell
how well the Focus 40 Blue pans out. From the few people I've spoken with
who have one, they have been impressed also, and holding it in my hands, and
using it with my iPhone during a presentation felt nice. I of course realize
that using something for 45 minutes isn't the same as for a week or longer,
but still, I liked it.
> 
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> If you're having a bad day, just remember in 1976 Ronald Wayne sold 
> his 10% stake in Apple for $2,300. It is now worth $59,565,410,309. - 
> Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47
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