Re: Navigon accessible?

[Richard Turner]

I did a web search and found a link to the "Navigon" app on the app store; 
which promptly brought up the message, this app is not available.
They said early last year that the app would still have map updates but that at 
some point it will stop functioning.
I removed it from my phone since there are other apps being maintained that do 
as much or more.
Richard


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On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
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The source for the maps could still be getting updates but this isn't the same 
as the app itself being updated. In fact, I found this and many other article 
saying Garmen was pulling the Navigon apps from the App Store and the Play 
Store as of May 14, 2018. 
https://www.facebook.com/NAVIGON/


On 6/7/19 10:00 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Richard and all,

I haven't used Navigon for a while, but I just opened it, and it's offering Q2 
2019 maps. I paid for FreshMaps at one time, so maybe that's why, but it 
certainly seems to be still being updated.

Best,
Anna




On Jun 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:


Hi Tim,
It was accessible, but it is no longer being updated.
I'd recommend Google Maps, or if in the US, Mapquest; both are free, but 
require internet access.
If you want something with maps onboard, Nearby Explorer, $79.99 is a very good 
option.
HTH,
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Tim Mehok 
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Hi,
I was wondering if Navigon  is accessible or if it has been surpassed
by other GPS apps?
Tim

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Re: Navigon accessible?

[Christopher Chaltain]

The source for the maps could still be getting updates but this isn't 
the same as the app itself being updated. In fact, I found this and many 
other article saying Garmen was pulling the Navigon apps from the App 
Store and the Play Store as of May 14, 2018. 
https://www.facebook.com/NAVIGON/



On 6/7/19 10:00 PM, Anna Dresner wrote:

Hi Richard and all,

I haven't used Navigon for a while, but I just opened it, and it's 
offering Q2 2019 maps. I paid for FreshMaps at one time, so maybe 
that's why, but it certainly seems to be still being updated.


Best,
Anna




On Jun 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:



Hi Tim,
It was accessible, but it is no longer being updated.
I'd recommend Google Maps, or if in the US, Mapquest; both are free, 
but require internet access.
If you want something with maps onboard, Nearby Explorer, $79.99 is a 
very good option.

HTH,
Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 

“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject 
of flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. 
The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and 
miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they 
don't have any." -- Alice Walker



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Hi,
I was wondering if Navigon  is accessible or if it has been surpassed
by other GPS apps?
Tim

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Re: Navigon accessible?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi again, everyone,

An addendum to my last message is that it's now not as clear as it used to be 
which states you have marked for downloading. While they are actually 
downloading, download progress is shown, and all the states you have downloaded 
are listed at the top of Map Manager, but if you're just going through the list 
to pick maps to download, VoiceOver doesn't indicate which ones are selected 
for download.

Best,
Anna



> On Jun 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Tim,
> It was accessible, but it is no longer being updated.
> I'd recommend Google Maps, or if in the US, Mapquest; both are free, but 
> require internet access.
> If you want something with maps onboard, Nearby Explorer, $79.99 is a very 
> good option.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> 
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> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
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>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if Navigon  is accessible or if it has been surpassed
>> by other GPS apps?
>> Tim
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Re: Navigon accessible?

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Richard and all,

I haven't used Navigon for a while, but I just opened it, and it's offering Q2 
2019 maps. I paid for FreshMaps at one time, so maybe that's why, but it 
certainly seems to be still being updated.

Best,
Anna




> On Jun 7, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Tim,
> It was accessible, but it is no longer being updated.
> I'd recommend Google Maps, or if in the US, Mapquest; both are free, but 
> require internet access.
> If you want something with maps onboard, Nearby Explorer, $79.99 is a very 
> good option.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com 
> 
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
> any." -- Alice Walker
> 
> 
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>> Hi,
>> I was wondering if Navigon  is accessible or if it has been surpassed
>> by other GPS apps?
>> Tim
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Re: Navigon accessible?

[Richard Turner]

Hi Tim,
It was accessible, but it is no longer being updated.
I'd recommend Google Maps, or if in the US, Mapquest; both are free, but 
require internet access.
If you want something with maps onboard, Nearby Explorer, $79.99 is a very good 
option.
HTH,
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 7, 2019, at 9:30 AM, Tim Mehok 
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Hi,
I was wondering if Navigon  is accessible or if it has been surpassed
by other GPS apps?
Tim

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Re: Navigon accessible?

[Mike Arrigo]

It was accessible last time I used it, but that was a long time ago, I 
use here we go and google maps now.

Original message:

Hi,
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by other GPS apps?
Tim



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Re: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Sieghard,

The advantage of Navigon is that you can have all the maps stored on the phone 
so that you don’t need a 3G connection to use the app. For us in Europe, this 
is very useful when out of the home country.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 12 Aug 2016, at 21:00, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Apart from the fact that you can download maps to the phone, I am curious 
> what you consider advantages of Navigon over free apps like Apple Maps or 
> Google Maps or paid solutions like the SeeingEye app which has much better 
> accessibility and gives you also a lot of information you won’t get with 
> Navigon. I also bought Navigon when I first got my iPhone 4 in 2010, but I 
> don’t think I have used it in at least 3 or 4 years because of how good Apple 
> Maps and Google Maps are and also because of the fact that I bought a 3-year 
> Seeing-Eye subscription.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Rob
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News
>  
> Navigon GPS app recently released version 2.16 update.  This version fixed 
> the problem we had with the previous update.  We can now read the turn by 
> turn list of navigation instructions.  This was broken in the previous update.
>  
> But Navigon has dramatically changed the user interface of the app.  It is 
> now very map centric.  The familiar menu structure is gone.  I think the 
> features are still available, but you will have to explore the various 
> buttons and menus to find them.
>  
> I have only just begun learning the new interface.  So I cannot give any tips 
> yet.
>  
> Rob
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf 
> Of Woody Anna Dresner
> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 12:43 PM
> To: VIPhone Mailing List
> Subject: accessible knitting patterns app
>  
> Hi,
>  
> In the past, I've used the Lion Brand app to find knitting patterns. The 
> search was accessible, and I could read the patterns with a braille display. 
> However, this app crashes with iOS 10 betas. Does anyone know of another 
> accessible app for finding and reading knitting patterns? I looked on 
> AppleVis, but there was nothing.
>  
> Thanks,
> Anna
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RE: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News

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Apart from the fact that you can download maps to the phone, I am curious what 
you consider advantages of Navigon over free apps like Apple Maps or Google 
Maps or paid solutions like the SeeingEye app which has much better 
accessibility and gives you also a lot of information you won’t get with 
Navigon. I also bought Navigon when I first got my iPhone 4 in 2010, but I 
don’t think I have used it in at least 3 or 4 years because of how good Apple 
Maps and Google Maps are and also because of the fact that I bought a 3-year 
Seeing-Eye subscription.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Rob
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon Update - Good And Bad News

Navigon GPS app recently released version 2.16 update.  This version fixed the 
problem we had with the previous update.  We can now read the turn by turn list 
of navigation instructions.  This was broken in the previous update.

But Navigon has dramatically changed the user interface of the app.  It is now 
very map centric.  The familiar menu structure is gone.  I think the features 
are still available, but you will have to explore the various buttons and menus 
to find them.

I have only just begun learning the new interface.  So I cannot give any tips 
yet.

Rob

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
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Subject: accessible knitting patterns app

Hi,

In the past, I've used the Lion Brand app to find knitting patterns. The search 
was accessible, and I could read the patterns with a braille display. However, 
this app crashes with iOS 10 betas. Does anyone know of another accessible app 
for finding and reading knitting patterns? I looked on AppleVis, but there was 
nothing.

Thanks,
Anna


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Re: Navigon does not show turn by turn list

[Jeff Samco]

I noticed this when the update first came out this spring. I reported 
it to the developer and we had a few exchanges and they verified that 
feature was broken. They said it should be fixed in the next update. 
A month ago I checked to see if an update release date was known. 
They gave the usual non-committal answer that they are working on it.

So we'll just have to wait.
HTH,
Jeff


At 05:29 AM 7/27/2016, you wrote:

Hello list
I think it is the is the latest upgrade but quite a pity that the 
turn by turn list is gone. Is there a way to get it back?

Regards
Fanus


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Re: Navigon support Email perhaps

[Tom Frank]

I had problems getting Navigon to download the sound files for turn by turn 
directions. In disgust I deleted the app and reinstalled it.

It works like a charm now. One secret I found is to download really large files 
on Sunday mornings. 
 Downloading and reinstalling Navigon and all of the maps took about ten 
minutes.  I think the total size is about six gigs. Happy reinstalling.
> On Apr 23, 2016, at 12:24 PM, Richard Turner  
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> 
> I found the below address for Navigon support.  Navigon is owned by Garmin.
> I sent an Email about the turn-by-turn list problem.  It has not bounced 
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Re: Navigon GPS Turn By Turn List

[Jeff Samco]

Yes, you're right. I noticed this about 3 weeks 
ago and contacted the developer. They 
acknowledged they could reproduce the problem. 
They even directed me to an error reporting page 
which I did complete. However, they have not 
responded back in any additional way since then. 
I'm thinking I might contact them for an update.

HTH,
Jeff

At 12:41 PM 4/22/2016, you wrote:
After upgrading to the latest version of Navigon 
GPS, I find that the turn by turn list of 
instructions for any route I start is always an 
empty list.  This happens when I choose 
"vehicle" when starting a route.  I don't even 
see the option for a turn by turn list when I 
choose "pedestrian" when starting a route.  I 
am using iOS 9.3.1 on an iPhone 5S.


Has anyone else experienced this problem?  Have you found a work around?

Rob

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Re: Navigon GPS Turn By Turn List

[Richard Turner]

I can confirm this problem.
I'm not finding a way to write them from within the app.
Do you have an email address for them?
Richard


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> On Apr 22, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Rob  wrote:
> 
> After upgrading to the latest version of Navigon GPS, I find that the turn by 
> turn list of instructions for any route I start is always an empty list.  
> This happens when I choose "vehicle" when starting a route.  I don't even see 
> the option for a turn by turn list when I choose "pedestrian" when starting a 
> route.  I am using iOS 9.3.1 on an iPhone 5S.
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> Has anyone else experienced this problem?  Have you found a work around?
>  
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RE: Navigon Hawaii

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I haven't used the Seeing Eye app yet so I couldn't tell you if it's easier,
but my guess is that in some ways it might be. Don't forget that you require
a constant data connection for the Seeing Eye app to access maps, Navigon
allows you to download the maps to your device.

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Subject: RE: Navigon Hawaii

You guessed it! I want to start navigating right out-of-the-box :-) do you
think I should go for the seeing eye GPS instead? Would that be easier to
learn? Thank you! (Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) 

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RE: Navigon Hawaii

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You guessed it! I want to start navigating right out-of-the-box :-) do you 
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learn? Thank you! (Voice Converted to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos) 

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RE: Navigon Hawaii

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Avnish,

I have had no issues with the latest version of Navigon. However, keep in
mind that Navigon does have a bit of a learning curve. If you buy it and use
it for the first time when you are in the car in Hawaii and expect to be an
expert navigator then this will probably not happen. There are tutorials I
believe, unfortunately I am just starting my day and it's a busy and long
one so I can't find them for you right now.


Good luck,
Sieghard


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Subject: Re: Navigon Hawaii

Thanks! It seems rather wasteful that I have to spend 60 bucks just for
Hawaii! It should've been included in one of the regional areas. Also I have
a HUD a lot of negative reviews about the new versions of Navigon. Are they
correct? Do they not upload properly? I don't maps not correct? A lot of
negative reviews are present In the App Store. What is your opinion?  
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Re: Navigon Hawaii

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Thanks! It seems rather wasteful that I have to spend 60 bucks just for Hawaii! 
It should've been included in one of the regional areas. Also I have a HUD a 
lot of negative reviews about the new versions of Navigon. Are they correct? Do 
they not upload properly? I don't maps not correct? A lot of negative reviews 
are present In the App Store. What is your opinion?  
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Re: Navigon Hawaii

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Sorry the version I have includes all of North America. I didn't
realize you were using different maps.

On 9/17/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hi Avnish,
>
> It appears that only Navigon North America includes Hawaii. Below is a link
> to the app in the app store:
>
> https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/navigon-north-america/id321506742?mt=8
>
> Price is $59.99 which is twice of the $29.99 Navigon United States West
> costs, but the regional versions of Navigon only mention States of the
> continental US. Navigon North America mentions coverage of Puerto Rico,
> Virgin Islands and Canada, but while Hawaii for some reason is not
> specifically mentioned, I can assure you that it is included since I have
> Navigon North America and used it on Maui last year. For all I know Navigon
> United States West does include it and it's not mentioned, but you would
> have to write to them and ask. Otherwise it's spend $30 more and buy the
> version which covers all of North America.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
>
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> Subject: Navigon Hawaii
>
> Does anyone know which version of Navigon covers Hawaii? I've tried
> looking everywhere but am not able to get a list of states covered by
> Navigon US East, Navigon US West  or Navigon US central.  Any help
> would be appreciated. Thank you!
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RE: Navigon Hawaii

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Avnish,

It appears that only Navigon North America includes Hawaii. Below is a link
to the app in the app store:

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/navigon-north-america/id321506742?mt=8

Price is $59.99 which is twice of the $29.99 Navigon United States West
costs, but the regional versions of Navigon only mention States of the
continental US. Navigon North America mentions coverage of Puerto Rico,
Virgin Islands and Canada, but while Hawaii for some reason is not
specifically mentioned, I can assure you that it is included since I have
Navigon North America and used it on Maui last year. For all I know Navigon
United States West does include it and it's not mentioned, but you would
have to write to them and ask. Otherwise it's spend $30 more and buy the
version which covers all of North America.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:00 AM
To: ViPhone
Subject: Navigon Hawaii

Does anyone know which version of Navigon covers Hawaii? I've tried
looking everywhere but am not able to get a list of states covered by
Navigon US East, Navigon US West  or Navigon US central.  Any help
would be appreciated. Thank you!

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RE: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Esther]

Hi Eileen,

Glad I could  help.  Let me give the full name and URL of the "Where To?" app I 
was describing as an alternative to using Navigon Now,  since there's another 
(different) app named "Where To Go?"
• Where To? -- GPS Points of Interest (currently $2.99) by FutureTap GmbH
https://itunes.apple.com/nz/app/where-to-gps-points-interest/id314785156?mt=8

I also use AroundMe, and in some ways its searching options are simpler.  But 
since the switch to iOS 6, I've found it to be much clunkier to use it for 
sending addresses to a GPS navigation app. And I find the category breakdowns 
for POIs in "Where To?" more helpful.

Raul posted recently about using HopStop as a free public transportation 
navigation app:
• HopStop for iPhone
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg36692.html

Here's the link to my follow-up post describing how to send destinations from a 
POI search in  "Where To?" to HopStop, and why using AroundMe for the same task 
was so much clunkier. 
• Re: HopStop for iPhone
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/msg37394.html

(Basically, you can get routed to the Maps app, but only with the option for 
walking or driving.  In order to get public transportation options, you have to 
back out and cancel to change your navigation options, and it's not as simple 
to send your address to such a wide range of navigation apps easily, compared 
to using "Where To?".  This wasn't an issue before iOS 6, but now I find "Where 
To?" much easier to use for sending addresses to navigation apps than AroundMe.)

Cheers,

Esther

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RE: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Esther, 

You are awesome. I will make sure that I copy and paste all of this info
into a word doc for future reference until I get use to using "Where To Go."
I do have the app on my phone, but I have usually opened "Around Me" to do
my searches for POIS. This is so helpful. Thanks again and I will begin
working with "Where To Go" to make it my choice of app to send addresses to
one of my many GPS apps. 

Cordially, 
Eileen 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Esther
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon Now Not Working?

Hi Eileen,
I don't think the Navigon Now app works any more.  If you read the app store
reviews sorted by date, the last consistent batch of positive reviews were
at the end of March.  Many comments elsewhere say that this stopped working
after one of the recent Navigon updates.  I always get "Failed parsing
address" messages when I try to use it. Instead, I'm using a similar app
called NavAssist Navigation App Helper that was released in 2011, and that
still seems to work.  NavAssist can send addresses to either Navigon or
TomTom, but it no longer seems to be sold in the App Store..

One reason for using Navigon Now in the past was that Navigon didn't
correctly parse addresses selected from your contacts, especially when they
included modifiers like room or suite numbers, and I don't think that's a
problem now. So you can select contact addresses directly from within
Navigon by choosing "contacts" in the list from the "more" tab (5 of 5).

Another app that I like to use as an alternate way for sending addresses to
Navigon is the "Where To?" app for POI selection. You also have the option
of selecting from your contacts in Where To?, either to set the location for
your POI searches, or to directly send a contact address to a routing app
like Navigon, or TomTom, Motion X GPS Drive, Garmin, etc.  I like the fact
that I can also use "Where To?" to send addresses to public transportation
apps like Hop Stop, whereas the same process is very clunky from AroundMe.

Double tap the "search" button of Where To. If you have just launched the
app, focus will be on this button ( in the top left corner). In the search
field, where VO says "search or address", flick right to the button and
double tap.  Your contacts should become available and VO should announce
"choose a contact to search near".  Then access your contacts as usual: you
can use the table index at the right side of the screen, or flick to the
search field to type in part of a name to search. If there is more than one
address, such as for home and work, double tap to select the one you want to
use.   Otherwise, if there's a single address, you'll be taken directly to a
Where To screen that is a map mode display view. To send this address to
routing apps, do a four finger tap on the bottom half of the screen to move
to the "add" button in the bottom right corner, and double tap.  You'll be
on a screen listing "Routing Apps" which will list those on your iPhone, and
then other that are available fro the App Store, along with their rating and
purchase price. Flick through to the name of the app you want to use, such
as Navigon MobileNavigator, Maps, Hop Stop, etc., and then flick to the
"Route" button for that app and double tap.  Your selected routing app will
lainch with the address loaded.  For example, if I've loaded in the address
for a doctor and double tapped the route button for Navigon, that app will
launch, and if I flick right I'll find the "Start navigation" button.  A
further flick right announces the name of the contact, followed by latitude
and longitude, then street address.

If you want to launch a second contacts search from the last screen in the
"Where To?" app, the "search" button will be in the top right corner.  Now
if you've double tapped on the "search" button and flick right in the search
field, the button will be labeled "bookmarks".  This still gives you access
to your contacts if you double tap, just as before, although it's a little
weird.

The "Where To?" search button can also be used to type in a business name or
address, so if you find that when you're in the search field, and there's no
additional button to bring up contacts, usually because you previously used
this field to type in a search entry, or if the only button that's announced
when you flick right  is for "clear text", flick right past this button and
the "cancel" button to "search address" and double tap. Then flick left back
to the search filed and a button for contacts should be there.

HTH.  I like the " Where To?" app's POI selections, so I use this more for
POI searches than the Navigon features.  And, as you can see, you can also
use "Where To?" to select addresses from your contacts and send them to
Navigon without having to type them in.  The additional bonus is that "Where
To?" can send addresses to all your other naviga

Re: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Jack Conti]

good afternoon i just bought navigon about 2 weeks ago.

are we notified about the quarterly map when they 
are released?  how does this work and how long am i good for?  thank you...

\At 12:09 PM 7/29/2013, you wrote:

Hello Eileen and others:
>
> Please forgive me. I was unclear as to the 
nature of the problem. I was thinking Navigon was the app not working :).

>
> Well, that still leads me back to the 
question of have you paid for the quarterly 
updates and if so have you updated the maps 
recently? there have been some reports of 
Navigon Now having a little trouble after new 
maps are installed. your idea of uninstalling 
and reinstalling may be the best way to go.

>
> Hopefully this email has proven helpful. please let us know.
>
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>
> Patrick
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Eileens Misrahi 
 wrote:

>
>> Hello,
>> The app that is in question is "Navigon 
Now." This app allows one to type in the 
address in an edit field, and then towards the 
bottom is a button to launch Navigon. The 
purpose of "Navigon Now" is to input all the 
necessary data into the correct edit fields 
when entering an address. Navigon itself is 
working just fine. "Navigon Now" speeds up the 
process when entering an address. I hope this 
clarifies the app that I am having problems 
with. Oh by the way, I am using an iPhone 4, running iOS 6.1.2.

>> Eileen
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Patrick Neazer 
 wrote:

>>
>>> Good morning Eileen and all:
>>>
>>> I used Navigon last evening out in 
California and it worked as it should. I 
mention that not to let the list know I am 
doing something wonderful in California. I 
mention that only because it is not the state I 
usually use Navigon in and so it is working even though I am on the move.

>>>
>>> Does it completely lock up? What iPhone are 
you using? did you purchase the quarterly map 
updates? sometimes when it wants me to update 
maps it sometimes appears locked … what is 
really happening is that the OK and cancel 
buttons are hiding somewhere at the bottom of 
the screen and I have to fish around for them :).

>>>
>>> I am sure telling you that it works on my 
end while it might not work on yours is just 
what you wanted to hear :). if you could 
provide a few more details, possibly we could be of more assistance.

>>>
>>> Hopefully some of the information in this 
email proved of use to you. Please let us know.

>>>
>>> take good care and I wish you enough.
>>>
>>> Patrick
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Eileens 
Misrahi  wrote:

>>>
 Hello List,
 I was wondering if anyone has used Navigon 
Now" recently. I attempted to use it today, but 
when I went to launch it to Navigon to begin 
the navigation, it just hung and wouldn't open 
it. I haven't had a chance to delete it from 
the phone and install it again to see if it 
would fix it. Any advice would be greatly 
appreciated, as it speed up the process when 
putting in an address into all of the edit fields in Navigon.

 Thanks.
 Eileen


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Re: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Patrick Neazer]

Hello Eileen and others:
> 
> Please forgive me. I was unclear as to the nature of the problem. I was 
> thinking Navigon was the app not working :).
> 
> Well, that still leads me back to the question of have you paid for the 
> quarterly updates and if so have you updated the maps recently? there have 
> been some reports of Navigon Now having a little trouble after new maps are 
> installed. your idea of uninstalling and reinstalling may be the best way to 
> go. 
> 
> Hopefully this email has proven helpful. please let us know.
> 
> Take good care and I wish you enough.
> 
> Patrick 
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 10:58 AM, Eileens Misrahi  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> The app that is in question is "Navigon Now." This app allows one to type in 
>> the address in an edit field, and then towards the bottom is a button to 
>> launch Navigon. The purpose of "Navigon Now" is to input all the necessary 
>> data into the correct edit fields when entering an address. Navigon itself 
>> is working just fine. "Navigon Now" speeds up the process when entering an 
>> address. I hope this clarifies the app that I am having problems with. Oh by 
>> the way, I am using an iPhone 4, running iOS 6.1.2. 
>> Eileen
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Patrick Neazer  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good morning Eileen and all:
>>> 
>>> I used Navigon last evening out in California and it worked as it should. I 
>>> mention that not to let the list know I am doing something wonderful in 
>>> California. I mention that only because it is not the state I usually use 
>>> Navigon in and so it is working even though I am on the move.
>>> 
>>> Does it completely lock up? What iPhone are you using? did you purchase the 
>>> quarterly map updates? sometimes when it wants me to update maps it 
>>> sometimes appears locked … what is really happening is that the OK and 
>>> cancel buttons are hiding somewhere at the bottom of the screen and I have 
>>> to fish around for them :).
>>> 
>>> I am sure telling you that it works on my end while it might not work on 
>>> yours is just what you wanted to hear :). if you could provide a few more 
>>> details, possibly we could be of more assistance.
>>> 
>>> Hopefully some of the information in this email proved of use to you. 
>>> Please let us know.
>>> 
>>> take good care and I wish you enough.
>>> 
>>> Patrick 
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Eileens Misrahi  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hello List,
 I was wondering if anyone has used Navigon Now" recently. I attempted to 
 use it today, but when I went to launch it to Navigon to begin the 
 navigation, it just hung and wouldn't open it. I haven't had a chance to 
 delete it from the phone and install it again to see if it would fix it. 
 Any advice would be greatly appreciated, as it speed up the process when 
 putting in an address into all of the edit fields in Navigon.
 Thanks.
 Eileen
 
 
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Re: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hello,
The app that is in question is "Navigon Now." This app allows one to type in 
the address in an edit field, and then towards the bottom is a button to launch 
Navigon. The purpose of "Navigon Now" is to input all the necessary data into 
the correct edit fields when entering an address. Navigon itself is working 
just fine. "Navigon Now" speeds up the process when entering an address. I hope 
this clarifies the app that I am having problems with. Oh by the way, I am 
using an iPhone 4, running iOS 6.1.2. 
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Patrick Neazer  wrote:

> Good morning Eileen and all:
> 
> I used Navigon last evening out in California and it worked as it should. I 
> mention that not to let the list know I am doing something wonderful in 
> California. I mention that only because it is not the state I usually use 
> Navigon in and so it is working even though I am on the move.
> 
> Does it completely lock up? What iPhone are you using? did you purchase the 
> quarterly map updates? sometimes when it wants me to update maps it sometimes 
> appears locked … what is really happening is that the OK and cancel buttons 
> are hiding somewhere at the bottom of the screen and I have to fish around 
> for them :).
> 
> I am sure telling you that it works on my end while it might not work on 
> yours is just what you wanted to hear :). if you could provide a few more 
> details, possibly we could be of more assistance.
> 
> Hopefully some of the information in this email proved of use to you. Please 
> let us know.
> 
> take good care and I wish you enough.
> 
> Patrick 
> On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Eileens Misrahi  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello List,
>> I was wondering if anyone has used Navigon Now" recently. I attempted to use 
>> it today, but when I went to launch it to Navigon to begin the navigation, 
>> it just hung and wouldn't open it. I haven't had a chance to delete it from 
>> the phone and install it again to see if it would fix it. Any advice would 
>> be greatly appreciated, as it speed up the process when putting in an 
>> address into all of the edit fields in Navigon.
>> Thanks.
>> Eileen
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Navigon Now Not Working?

[Patrick Neazer]

Good morning Eileen and all:

I used Navigon last evening out in California and it worked as it should. I 
mention that not to let the list know I am doing something wonderful in 
California. I mention that only because it is not the state I usually use 
Navigon in and so it is working even though I am on the move.

Does it completely lock up? What iPhone are you using? did you purchase the 
quarterly map updates? sometimes when it wants me to update maps it sometimes 
appears locked … what is really happening is that the OK and cancel buttons are 
hiding somewhere at the bottom of the screen and I have to fish around for them 
:).

I am sure telling you that it works on my end while it might not work on yours 
is just what you wanted to hear :). if you could provide a few more details, 
possibly we could be of more assistance.

Hopefully some of the information in this email proved of use to you. Please 
let us know.

take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Jul 29, 2013, at 12:46 AM, Eileens Misrahi  wrote:

> Hello List,
> I was wondering if anyone has used Navigon Now" recently. I attempted to use 
> it today, but when I went to launch it to Navigon to begin the navigation, it 
> just hung and wouldn't open it. I haven't had a chance to delete it from the 
> phone and install it again to see if it would fix it. Any advice would be 
> greatly appreciated, as it speed up the process when putting in an address 
> into all of the edit fields in Navigon.
> Thanks.
> Eileen
> 
> 
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RE: navigon maps

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi May,

When you are in Navigon, double tap the "Extras" tab just above the home
key. Here you find all the in-app purchases listed with their associated
costs. Fresh Maps XL North America is listet and it costs $20 a year and you
will get quarterly map updates. I haven't used Navigon in a while since
mostly I want information when I'm walking along without having to actually
set up a route so when I just opened Navigon I was prompted to download the
Q2 map update for 2013, most likely I will not buy this for 2014 now that I
have the Seeing Eye app. I understand that you find the Seeing Eye app an
unnecessary expense since you own a Breeze, but for somebody who doesn't the
Seeing Eye app currently will be the most complete and user friendly GPS app
available. BlindSquare works very well also, but it does not give me
intersection information and I always like the "Get Warmer" feature when I
had MobileGeo so I am happy to have it back now.


Regards,
Sieghard



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of May and Noah
Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: navigon maps

I'm curious since I've never seen that info in the years I've had navigon,
where are you finding that?
May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-07-03, at 9:24 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:

> Navigon lists several in app purchases. Item 3 in that list indicates that
for fresh XL maps for North America, the cost is $19.99. This presumably
provides maps that have additional detail as compared to the regular maps
that come with the product.
> 
> Bob Fenton
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013-07-03, at 7:03 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
> 
>> I haven't had to pay any extra fee for my updated maps with Navigon and
I've had it for years.
>> 
>> But again I'm not saying that either app is perfect either, just that
right now the Seeing Eye app isn't worth the money I put out for it since my
other apps give me the same info.
>> 
>> May and Prince Noah
>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>> 
>> On 2013-07-03, at 8:53 AM, Robert Fenton 
wrote:
>> 
>>> With the greatest of respect, I disagree with the note below. The seeing
eye application does provide additional description of intersections and
actually provides true turn by turn directions that are usable by a blind
person in a fashion that is much better than the other applications. For
example, if you're doing a pedestrian route with this application, you're
more likely to end up on the right side of the street to reach your
destination then you are with some of the other GPS applications. In
addition, if you do want to receive map updates on Navigon, You do have to
pay an extra fee. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Bob Fenton
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2013-07-02, at 11:20 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
>>> 
 You need to catch up with times. The updates for maps with the breeze
are free. The Breeze is a one time cost. Also, the breeze and it's counter
part the mystro did not run in the same price range.
 
 
 The Seeing Eye App does the exact same thing as Navigon and my Breeze.
My Breeze or Navigon I don't have to pay yearly for it's use or the upgrades
when they happen.
 
 Yes, the Seeing Eye app is another option for people to try out and
it's a valid argument for people to have in regards to the yearly price if
they already have something that is a one time cost that does the same
thing.
 
 For me I can say it was a waist of 70 bucks since it does what I
already have.
 
 Also, the maps that the Seeing Eye is using is the same ones that the
other companies use and it's also pulling info from foursquare which a lot
of apps seem to be doing these days as well. So from what I've seen in
looking at it from what I already have and use, it's not better, but the
same.
 May and Prince Noah
 www.canadianlynx.ca
 
 On 2013-07-03, at 12:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
> And your Breeze was how much? I believe $800 is about right? If you
buy the
> Seeing Eye app on a 3-year subscription, that means $800 divided by
$130 =
> 6.15 which means I can renew my Seeing Eye subscription 6 times for
the
> price of the Breeze and at 3 years per renewal this means 18 years.
How
> likely do you think it is you get 18 years of service out of your
Breeze
> without updates? I used to have a Trekker Maestro and Humanware told
me map
> updates were $100 back then. I wonder which company is more greedy
here and
> I also wonder whether the maps on your Breeze will be as up-to-date in
3
> years as the ones the Seeing Eye app uses.
> 
> Anyhow, I think this discussion is pretty well exhausted. I doubt any
> argument will change your hostile attitude towards Sendero and while
you and
> everybody else is of course entitled to their opinion, I think if you
did
> look at it objectively the numbers speak for themselves.
> 
> 
> R

Re: navigon maps

[Robert Fenton]

You will need to look up the Navigon app in the app store, pull up the app 
description and then read under the heading in app purchases. Sigrid has 
provided additional information which may be helpful as well. Thanks.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-07-03, at 7:45 AM, May and Noah  wrote:

> I'm curious since I've never seen that info in the years I've had navigon, 
> where are you finding that?
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
> On 2013-07-03, at 9:24 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:
> 
>> Navigon lists several in app purchases. Item 3 in that list indicates that 
>> for fresh XL maps for North America, the cost is $19.99. This presumably 
>> provides maps that have additional detail as compared to the regular maps 
>> that come with the product.
>> 
>> Bob Fenton
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 2013-07-03, at 7:03 AM, May and Noah  wrote:
>> 
>>> I haven't had to pay any extra fee for my updated maps with Navigon and 
>>> I've had it for years.
>>> 
>>> But again I'm not saying that either app is perfect either, just that right 
>>> now the Seeing Eye app isn't worth the money I put out for it since my 
>>> other apps give me the same info.
>>> 
>>> May and Prince Noah
>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>> 
>>> On 2013-07-03, at 8:53 AM, Robert Fenton  wrote:
>>> 
 With the greatest of respect, I disagree with the note below. The seeing 
 eye application does provide additional description of intersections and 
 actually provides true turn by turn directions that are usable by a blind 
 person in a fashion that is much better than the other applications. For 
 example, if you're doing a pedestrian route with this application, you're 
 more likely to end up on the right side of the street to reach your 
 destination then you are with some of the other GPS applications. In 
 addition, if you do want to receive map updates on Navigon, You do have to 
 pay an extra fee. Thanks.
 
 Bob Fenton
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 2013-07-02, at 11:20 PM, May and Noah  wrote:
 
> You need to catch up with times. The updates for maps with the breeze are 
> free. The Breeze is a one time cost. Also, the breeze and it's counter 
> part the mystro did not run in the same price range.
> 
> 
> The Seeing Eye App does the exact same thing as Navigon and my Breeze. My 
> Breeze or Navigon I don't have to pay yearly for it's use or the upgrades 
> when they happen.
> 
> Yes, the Seeing Eye app is another option for people to try out and it's 
> a valid argument for people to have in regards to the yearly price if 
> they already have something that is a one time cost that does the same 
> thing.
> 
> For me I can say it was a waist of 70 bucks since it does what I already 
> have.
> 
> Also, the maps that the Seeing Eye is using is the same ones that the 
> other companies use and it's also pulling info from foursquare which a 
> lot of apps seem to be doing these days as well. So from what I've seen 
> in looking at it from what I already have and use, it's not better, but 
> the same.
> May and Prince Noah
> www.canadianlynx.ca
> 
> On 2013-07-03, at 12:00 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>> And your Breeze was how much? I believe $800 is about right? If you buy 
>> the
>> Seeing Eye app on a 3-year subscription, that means $800 divided by $130 
>> =
>> 6.15 which means I can renew my Seeing Eye subscription 6 times for the
>> price of the Breeze and at 3 years per renewal this means 18 years. How
>> likely do you think it is you get 18 years of service out of your Breeze
>> without updates? I used to have a Trekker Maestro and Humanware told me 
>> map
>> updates were $100 back then. I wonder which company is more greedy here 
>> and
>> I also wonder whether the maps on your Breeze will be as up-to-date in 3
>> years as the ones the Seeing Eye app uses.
>> 
>> Anyhow, I think this discussion is pretty well exhausted. I doubt any
>> argument will change your hostile attitude towards Sendero and while you 
>> and
>> everybody else is of course entitled to their opinion, I think if you did
>> look at it objectively the numbers speak for themselves.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Mary Anne Lynskey
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 8:28 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The Seeing Eye app, greed, greed, greed!
>> 
>> You are incorrect assuming that I bought a subscription. I downloaded the
>> app and when I found out how outrageous and costly it was, i certainly 
>> did
>> not buy a subscription. I immediately went to the rating portion and told
>> them how I feel. Th

RE: Navigon Questions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sarah,

 

Chuck did a good job answering your questions, but is there a reason why you
don't want to upgrade to the latest version of Navigon? It is just as
accessible and I think probably runs better on a 4S than the older version.
I also think your version probably requires all maps to be on the computer
which, if you have the North America version, takes up about 2 Gb if I
remember this correctly. The last few versions have a Map Manager and you
can just download the maps for your State or for several States you visit
frequently.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sarah Clark
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon Questions

 

Hello,

 

I have several Navigon questions.

 

First of all, I know I have a somewhat older version, since I am still using
the one I downloaded in late 2011 right after I got my 4s. How do I find
which version of Navigon I have?

 

My next two questions might be dependent on which version I am using.

Though I can't remember how I did this, at some point I obviously let
Navigon know what my home address is, because I am able to click on the
button to "Take me home." But now I have to change this address. So where do
I go to do that?

 

Also, up until now I've only used Navigon while in a vehicle. Is there a way
to do a route in pedestrian mode? If so how do I do this?

 

Thanks,

Sarah

 

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Re: Navigon Questions

[Chuck Dean]

Hello Sarah, 
I am up to date and I am running version two point four point two.. To find the 
version you are running go to the settings tab at the bottom of the screen, 
then hit the product information button at the upper right. 
To change your address tap the tape me home button,, then to the more tab on 
the bottom. You will find a delete home address button. Hit this and confirm. 
Now go back to the main screen and hit address button. Enter your new address 
in the sequence it asks for, city, street, number. Once you do this, go back to 
more tab and select make this my home address. 

To select pedestrian mode hit take me home then hit more. Flick right to route 
profile. Now flick right until you hear pedestrian. Double tap to select with 
voice announcements. 
Hope this helps, 

Chuck (mobile)
GO BLACKHAWKS!

On Jun 20, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Sarah Clark  wrote:

> Hello,
>  
> I have several Navigon questions.
>  
> First of all, I know I have a somewhat older  version, since I am still using 
> the one I downloaded in late 2011 right after I got my 4s. How do I find 
> which version of Navigon I have?
>  
> My next two questions might be dependent on which version I am using.
> Though I can't remember how I did this, at some point I obviously let Navigon 
> know what my home address is, because I am able to click on the button to 
> "Take me home." But now I have to change this address. So where do I go to do 
> that?
>  
> Also, up until now I've only used Navigon while in a vehicle. Is there a way 
> to do a route in pedestrian mode? If so how do I do  this?
>  
> Thanks,
> Sarah
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Re: navigon

[Patrick Neazer]

Hello Brian and all:

The following information is from memory so it is suspect … LOL.

If you open Navigon and double tap on the more tab which is located in the 
lower right-hand corner, you will be taken to a list that includes map manager. 
If you are using an older version, you will be prompted to upgrade. that ends 
the memory portion of the show … LOL 

If you have the newer version after double tapping more you should see a 
variety of extras that you can purchase. be warned, in order to get the latest 
and most accurate maps there is a subscription cost … take heed. it is only 
$19.95 for two years and the maps are updated quarterly. 

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Jun 12, 2013, at 8:25 AM, Brian Moore  wrote:

> HI.  have not.  however, I don't see any updates in the app store. think 
> there is an about button. let me check.
> navigon north america version 2.42 build 72
> Brian.
> 
> On 6/12/2013 4:45 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
>> Hello Brian and all:
>> 
>> I have to ask that boring of all boring questions … what version of Navigon 
>> are you using? :)
>> 
>> There have been some updates and it looks a bit different in the version 2 
>> series.
>> 
>> Here is a clue. Have you come across the "speak last spoken direction 
>> button" yet? If not, that indicates that you may be using the previous 
>> generation of navigon.
>> 
>> Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
>> 
>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?
>>> 
>>> I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an 
>>> address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.
>>> 
>>> no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.
>>> 
>>> has this vanished or did they just move it?
>>> 
>>> if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?
>>> 
>>> thanks.Brian.
>>> 
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Re: navigon

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hello Folks,

I just opened Navigon and assessed where the "repeat" button is. After 
inputting an address or selecting one from your list, you need to tap on "start 
navigation"button twice. The repeat button should be in a list of menu items at 
that point. I am running the latest version because that option was there. 
Check it out. HTH.

Best,
Eileen

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> HI.  have not.  however, I don't see any updates in the app store. think 
> there is an about button. let me check.
> navigon north america version 2.42 build 72
> Brian.
> 
> On 6/12/2013 4:45 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:
>> Hello Brian and all:
>> 
>> I have to ask that boring of all boring questions … what version of Navigon 
>> are you using? :)
>> 
>> There have been some updates and it looks a bit different in the version 2 
>> series.
>> 
>> Here is a clue. Have you come across the "speak last spoken direction 
>> button" yet? If not, that indicates that you may be using the previous 
>> generation of navigon.
>> 
>> Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.
>> 
>> Take good care and I wish you enough.
>> 
>> Patrick
>> On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Brian Moore  wrote:
>> 
>>> HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?
>>> 
>>> I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an 
>>> address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.
>>> 
>>> no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.
>>> 
>>> has this vanished or did they just move it?
>>> 
>>> if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?
>>> 
>>> thanks.Brian.
>>> 
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Re: navigon

[Brian Moore]

HI.  have not.  however, I don't see any updates in the app store. 
think there is an about button. let me check.

navigon north america version 2.42 build 72
Brian.

On 6/12/2013 4:45 AM, Patrick Neazer wrote:

Hello Brian and all:

I have to ask that boring of all boring questions … what version of Navigon are 
you using? :)

There have been some updates and it looks a bit different in the version 2 
series.

Here is a clue. Have you come across the "speak last spoken direction button" 
yet? If not, that indicates that you may be using the previous generation of navigon.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Brian Moore  wrote:


HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?

I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an 
address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.

no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.

has this vanished or did they just move it?

if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?

thanks.Brian.

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Re: navigon

[Patrick Neazer]

Hello Brian and all:

I have to ask that boring of all boring questions … what version of Navigon are 
you using? :)

There have been some updates and it looks a bit different in the version 2 
series. 

Here is a clue. Have you come across the "speak last spoken direction button" 
yet? If not, that indicates that you may be using the previous generation of 
navigon.

Hopefully this information proves useful to you. Please let us know.

Take good care and I wish you enough.

Patrick 
On Jun 11, 2013, at 3:20 PM, Brian Moore  wrote:

> HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?
> 
> I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an 
> address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.
> 
> no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.
> 
> has this vanished or did they just move it?
> 
> if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?
> 
> thanks.Brian.
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Re: navigon

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Hey Briayn:
I had the same problem once but it went away by itself. I've never
seen an option for turn by turn directions. They just worked
automatically.

On 6/11/13, Eileen Misrahi  wrote:
> You're welcome. Navigon is my GPS of choice right now. I am waiting to see
> what Sendero-Seeing Eye app will have to say whenever it is release. I have
> other Sendero products, but I think there can be a work around if the cost
> is prohibited.
>
> Eileen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Brian Moore
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: navigon
>
> HI.  haven't tried that but will give it a shot.
>
> thanks.
> Brian.
>
> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
> follow me on twitter:
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> On 11/06/2013 4:31 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
>> Hi Brian,
>>
>> Once you are done with inputting the address, there will be an "Option"
>> button in the upper right corner. Tap on that. Towards the bottom of
>> this page, it should say something like this "Turn-By-Turn Directions"
>> (without the quotes). Usually, I have no problem once I start the
>> navigation to get the voice to announce the turn-by-turn directions.
>> You can get it to repeat by tapping on the lower left corner where it
>> gives the miles left to the next WavePoint. I am not sure if this is
>> your concern withNavigon. I just used it last night to get my husband
>> back
> on the correct freeway home. HTH.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Brian Moore
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: navigon
>>
>> HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?
>>
>> I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to
>> an address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.
>>
>> no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.
>>
>> has this vanished or did they just move it?
>>
>> if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?
>>
>> thanks.Brian.
>>
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RE: navigon

[Eileen Misrahi]

You're welcome. Navigon is my GPS of choice right now. I am waiting to see
what Sendero-Seeing Eye app will have to say whenever it is release. I have
other Sendero products, but I think there can be a work around if the cost
is prohibited. 

Eileen 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brian Moore
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: navigon

HI.  haven't tried that but will give it a shot.

thanks.
Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
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On 11/06/2013 4:31 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> Once you are done with inputting the address, there will be an "Option"
> button in the upper right corner. Tap on that. Towards the bottom of 
> this page, it should say something like this "Turn-By-Turn Directions" 
> (without the quotes). Usually, I have no problem once I start the 
> navigation to get the voice to announce the turn-by-turn directions. 
> You can get it to repeat by tapping on the lower left corner where it 
> gives the miles left to the next WavePoint. I am not sure if this is 
> your concern withNavigon. I just used it last night to get my husband back
on the correct freeway home. HTH.
>
> Eileen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Brian Moore
> Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: navigon
>
> HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?
>
> I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to 
> an address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.
>
> no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.
>
> has this vanished or did they just move it?
>
> if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?
>
> thanks.Brian.
>
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RE: navigon

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hi Brian, 

Once you are done with inputting the address, there will be an "Option"
button in the upper right corner. Tap on that. Towards the bottom of this
page, it should say something like this "Turn-By-Turn Directions" (without
the quotes). Usually, I have no problem once I start the navigation to get
the voice to announce the turn-by-turn directions. You can get it to repeat
by tapping on the lower left corner where it gives the miles left to the
next WavePoint. I am not sure if this is your concern withNavigon. I just
used it last night to get my husband back on the correct freeway home. HTH. 

Eileen 

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Of Brian Moore
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: navigon

HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?

I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an
address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.

no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.

has this vanished or did they just move it?

if so, can someone enlighten me as to where?

thanks.Brian.

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Re: navigon

[Brian Moore]

HI.  haven't tried that but will give it a shot.

thanks.
Brian.

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On 11/06/2013 4:31 PM, Eileen Misrahi wrote:

Hi Brian,

Once you are done with inputting the address, there will be an "Option"
button in the upper right corner. Tap on that. Towards the bottom of this
page, it should say something like this "Turn-By-Turn Directions" (without
the quotes). Usually, I have no problem once I start the navigation to get
the voice to announce the turn-by-turn directions. You can get it to repeat
by tapping on the lower left corner where it gives the miles left to the
next WavePoint. I am not sure if this is your concern withNavigon. I just
used it last night to get my husband back on the correct freeway home. HTH.

Eileen

-Original Message-
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Of Brian Moore
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 1:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: navigon

HI.  have the voice turn by turn directions gone away in navigon?

I hadn't used it for a while and yesterday tried to set up a route to an
address.  for route profile it only gave me vehicle or pedestrian.

no matter which I picked, couldn't get voiced turn by turn directions.

has this vanished or did they just move it?

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Re: navigon speaking directions?

[David Chittenden]

You need to set Navigon to walking directions with voice announcements. I 
believe it is the last choice on the list. If you choose walking directions, no 
spoken announcements are provided.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 08/05/2013, at 9:32, erik burggraaf  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I just went out with my duel xgps and Ipod with navigon and plotted a rout.  
> It won't vocalize the next instruction.  It shows me the rout on a map and it 
> shows my speed and distance to destination in real time.  So, I know it's 
> doing it's gps thing.  No next waypoint info though.  How do I get this?  I 
> know the android version doesn't provide announcements in walking mode, but I 
> thought the IPhone app did.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
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Re: Navigon and saving to favorites

[Eileens Misrahi]

hello,
 
This is how I save an address in Navigon:

1. Enter all require fields with the all the information.
2. On the on screen keyboard, under the delete key, there is a "done" button. 
Double-tap on it. 
3. In the lower right hand corner, there is a "more" button. Double-tap on that.
4. Flick once until you hear "save to favorite." Double-tap on that. The next 
time you open up Navigon and open up the address, you will need to flick to the 
right until you hear "favorites." Double-tap on that and then you will need to 
search for the address you want to go to. The process is the same to start the 
navigation by double-tapping on "start navigation" twicd in the upper 
right-hand corner. HTH.  

Eileen
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 19, 2013, at 1:55 PM, "Beverly"  wrote:

> Once you have typed the address in, start navigation. Once that has started, 
> look at recent places or something like that, then you will be able to put it 
> into your favorites.
> 
> 
> Beverly Hunter
> Senior Manager
> Lightyear Wireless
> www.bhmarketinggroup.net
> Phone:  770-892-8184
> Email: bhmarketinggr...@lightyearwireless.com
> Skype:  blackpearl1953
> - Original Message - From: "Jed Barton" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 11:19 AM
> Subject: Navigon and saving to favorites
> 
> 
>> Hey guys,
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>> 
>> Thanks,
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Re: Navigon and saving to favorites

[Beverly]

Once you have typed the address in, start navigation. Once that has started, 
look at recent places or something like that, then you will be able to put 
it into your favorites.



Beverly Hunter
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www.bhmarketinggroup.net
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Email: bhmarketinggr...@lightyearwireless.com
Skype:  blackpearl1953
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Subject: Navigon and saving to favorites



Hey guys,
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Thanks,
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RE: Navigon and saving to favorites

[Thom]

After you've entered the address, there is a more button in the bottom right
corner. Double tap that.
Then go back to the top, and start flicking , there will be an add to
favorites, just after the address.


HTH

Thom
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Hey guys,
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Re: Navigon

[Esubalew Johnston]

Hi, I used it again yesterday. But I used the car option and it did
great actually even though I was walking it told me that I was going 2
miles an hour. It also told me turn by turn voice direction.

On 4/10/13, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Hello Eileen,
>
> I haven't used Navigon much lately, when I am in my home town of 6000 I
> don't need it. However, I did briefly put in a route earlier and it did not
> even ask me which navigation mode to use. Anyhow, if you go to Settings and
> Route you do have a setting there and you can still choose Pedestrian as
> well as Pedestrian with Voice Announcement. I assume what this means is
> that
> whichever setting you choose here is the one which will be active when you
> choose Pedestrian if you are given the choice between Vehicle and
> Pedestrian.
>
> I also noticed that once I had started my route and I double tapped on
> option, that you can change the route profile here on the fly. This is
> quite
> handy because for some reason navigon took the Turn by Turn List out of the
> options menu for Pedestrian navigation, but it is there for Vehicle
> navigation. If I want to look at the entire route and which directions I am
> going to get, I can relatively easily switch to Vehicle, then bring up
> Options again and pull up the Turn by Turn List. Afterwards I can go back
> and change the profile to Pedestrian again. It's not ideal, but it's a
> work-around. I really don't know why the Turn by Turn List choice is not
> there under the options when you have selected Pedestrian.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Eileens Misrahi
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Navigon
>
> Hi Seigar,
>
> When this topic was first posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried
> to
> set it to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I found  was
> "pedestrian." I remebered in previous versions that there were 2 options:
> one with and one without voice. Has the "pedestrian with voice" been
> removed
> or is it located in a different option? Maybe this is why no voice
> turn-by-turn directions are being announced . An explanations may be
> necessary to set up this option.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Eileen
>
> Sent fromHi Seigar,
>
> When this topic was posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried to set
> it to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I foaund was
> "pedestrian" I remebered in previous that there 2 options: one with and one
> without voice. Has the "pedestrial with voice" been removed or is it
> located
> in a different option? Maybe this is why no voice turn-by-turn directions
> is
> being annouced. An explanations is necessary to set up this option.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Eileen my iPhone
>
> On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mean no offense, but you must have set something incorrectly or you
>> are not putting in a route. Navigon will not give you any voice
>> feedback if you just open the app and walk around. If you are at your
>> house wherever that is and you want to go to let's say the Best Buy
>> which is a mile away, then you have to create a route and either put
>> in the street address of the Best Buy or you have to see if you can
>> find it as a Point of Interest maybe under Shopping. If you have
>> Around Me you could see if you find it in there, then tap on the
>> "Route" button and then if Navigon is on your phone you can pick
>> Navigon as a routing application and Around Me will send the
>> information to Navigon and all you have to do is tap on "Start" to
>> start your route. Then once you start walking, Navigon will give you
>> voice directions, but it will still not announce cross streets and so on,
> it will only tell you where you have to turn.
>>
>> Of course you also have to make sure you have downloaded the maps for
>> your area/state, that for best results you have the speed profile set
>> to Pedestrian with Voice Announcement and that you select the TTS
>> voice, not the human voice. The human voice will tell you, for
>> example, "Turn left in
>> 100 metres", but only the TTS voice would say, for example, "Turn left
>> onto Main Street in 100 metres".
>>
>> Raul did a Podcast on how to properly enter addresses into Navigon, I
>> think it's on Applevis.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
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RE: Navigon

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hello Eileen,

I haven't used Navigon much lately, when I am in my home town of 6000 I
don't need it. However, I did briefly put in a route earlier and it did not
even ask me which navigation mode to use. Anyhow, if you go to Settings and
Route you do have a setting there and you can still choose Pedestrian as
well as Pedestrian with Voice Announcement. I assume what this means is that
whichever setting you choose here is the one which will be active when you
choose Pedestrian if you are given the choice between Vehicle and
Pedestrian.

I also noticed that once I had started my route and I double tapped on
option, that you can change the route profile here on the fly. This is quite
handy because for some reason navigon took the Turn by Turn List out of the
options menu for Pedestrian navigation, but it is there for Vehicle
navigation. If I want to look at the entire route and which directions I am
going to get, I can relatively easily switch to Vehicle, then bring up
Options again and pull up the Turn by Turn List. Afterwards I can go back
and change the profile to Pedestrian again. It's not ideal, but it's a
work-around. I really don't know why the Turn by Turn List choice is not
there under the options when you have selected Pedestrian.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon

Hi Seigar,

When this topic was first posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried to
set it to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I found  was
"pedestrian." I remebered in previous versions that there were 2 options:
one with and one without voice. Has the "pedestrian with voice" been removed
or is it located in a different option? Maybe this is why no voice
turn-by-turn directions are being announced . An explanations may be
necessary to set up this option.

Thanks in advance. 

Eileen

Sent fromHi Seigar,

When this topic was posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried to set
it to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I foaund was
"pedestrian" I remebered in previous that there 2 options: one with and one
without voice. Has the "pedestrial with voice" been removed or is it located
in a different option? Maybe this is why no voice turn-by-turn directions is
being annouced. An explanations is necessary to set up this option.

Thanks in advance. 

Eileen my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I mean no offense, but you must have set something incorrectly or you 
> are not putting in a route. Navigon will not give you any voice 
> feedback if you just open the app and walk around. If you are at your 
> house wherever that is and you want to go to let's say the Best Buy 
> which is a mile away, then you have to create a route and either put 
> in the street address of the Best Buy or you have to see if you can 
> find it as a Point of Interest maybe under Shopping. If you have 
> Around Me you could see if you find it in there, then tap on the 
> "Route" button and then if Navigon is on your phone you can pick 
> Navigon as a routing application and Around Me will send the 
> information to Navigon and all you have to do is tap on "Start" to 
> start your route. Then once you start walking, Navigon will give you 
> voice directions, but it will still not announce cross streets and so on,
it will only tell you where you have to turn.
> 
> Of course you also have to make sure you have downloaded the maps for 
> your area/state, that for best results you have the speed profile set 
> to Pedestrian with Voice Announcement and that you select the TTS 
> voice, not the human voice. The human voice will tell you, for 
> example, "Turn left in
> 100 metres", but only the TTS voice would say, for example, "Turn left 
> onto Main Street in 100 metres".
> 
> Raul did a Podcast on how to properly enter addresses into Navigon, I 
> think it's on Applevis.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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Re: Navigon

[Eileens Misrahi]

Hi Seigar,

When this topic was first posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried to 
set it to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I found  was 
"pedestrian." I remebered in previous versions that there were 2 options: one 
with and one without voice. Has the "pedestrian with voice" been removed or is 
it located in a different option? Maybe this is why no voice turn-by-turn 
directions are being announced . An explanations may be  necessary to set up 
this option.

Thanks in advance. 

Eileen

Sent fromHi Seigar,

When this topic was posted, I opened Navigon, set a rote, and tried to set it 
to pedestrian with voice. However, the only option I foaund was "pedestrian" I 
remebered in previous that there 2 options: one with and one without voice. Has 
the "pedestrial with voice" been removed or is it located in a different 
option? Maybe this is why no voice turn-by-turn directions is being annouced. 
An explanations is necessary to set up this option.

Thanks in advance. 

Eileen my iPhone

On Apr 9, 2013, at 11:21 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I mean no offense, but you must have set something incorrectly or you are
> not putting in a route. Navigon will not give you any voice feedback if you
> just open the app and walk around. If you are at your house wherever that is
> and you want to go to let's say the Best Buy which is a mile away, then you
> have to create a route and either put in the street address of the Best Buy
> or you have to see if you can find it as a Point of Interest maybe under
> Shopping. If you have Around Me you could see if you find it in there, then
> tap on the "Route" button and then if Navigon is on your phone you can pick
> Navigon as a routing application and Around Me will send the information to
> Navigon and all you have to do is tap on "Start" to start your route. Then
> once you start walking, Navigon will give you voice directions, but it will
> still not announce cross streets and so on, it will only tell you where you
> have to turn.
> 
> Of course you also have to make sure you have downloaded the maps for your
> area/state, that for best results you have the speed profile set to
> Pedestrian with Voice Announcement and that you select the TTS voice, not
> the human voice. The human voice will tell you, for example, "Turn left in
> 100 metres", but only the TTS voice would say, for example, "Turn left onto
> Main Street in 100 metres".
> 
> Raul did a Podcast on how to properly enter addresses into Navigon, I think
> it's on Applevis.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Navigon

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi,

I mean no offense, but you must have set something incorrectly or you are
not putting in a route. Navigon will not give you any voice feedback if you
just open the app and walk around. If you are at your house wherever that is
and you want to go to let's say the Best Buy which is a mile away, then you
have to create a route and either put in the street address of the Best Buy
or you have to see if you can find it as a Point of Interest maybe under
Shopping. If you have Around Me you could see if you find it in there, then
tap on the "Route" button and then if Navigon is on your phone you can pick
Navigon as a routing application and Around Me will send the information to
Navigon and all you have to do is tap on "Start" to start your route. Then
once you start walking, Navigon will give you voice directions, but it will
still not announce cross streets and so on, it will only tell you where you
have to turn.

Of course you also have to make sure you have downloaded the maps for your
area/state, that for best results you have the speed profile set to
Pedestrian with Voice Announcement and that you select the TTS voice, not
the human voice. The human voice will tell you, for example, "Turn left in
100 metres", but only the TTS voice would say, for example, "Turn left onto
Main Street in 100 metres".

Raul did a Podcast on how to properly enter addresses into Navigon, I think
it's on Applevis.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: Navigon

[Esubalew Johnston]

Ok either way it won't give me any directions to my house or even when
I put in State, City, street and so on. Thanks

On 4/7/13, Chris Bruinenberg  wrote:
> I'm glad i wasn't the only one who was having this issue.
> I kept asking myself, where was this particular lake and i didn't think
> it was here. I've lived in Oregon all my life. :)I am
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Re: Navigon

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, Navigon won't work in a park. It will view a park as one item. It's 
mainly designed to navigate you around streets, not parks.


Hope this helps.

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On 4/7/2013 7:18 PM, Esubalew Johnston wrote:

Yes I agree about Navagon  not giveing turn by turn directions.  I
took it to the Park that I go to all the time but nothing.

On 4/6/13, Barbara Limandri  wrote:

I am particularly annoyed with the Lake Jeanclia, Oregon as well. There has

never been a Lake Jeanclia in Oregon and Portland is not an insignificant
little city so a map update isn't the issue as much as not recognizing how
annoying this is. I have a Nissan Leaf and it really should have accurate
mapping. If Navigon isn't going to respond then maybe car manufacturers
should stop using this product. That might get there attention.
Barbara, Lake Jeanclia (aka Portland, Or)

On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:22:14 PM UTC-7, rmann05 wrote:


I tried to have Navigan give me turn-by-turn directions in pedestrian
mode, but I didn't get any guidance.  I didn't even hear street names as i

crossed them.  For my test, I used the place I work at.
  fSent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"
>
wrote:


I like Navigon a lot. I'm not sure why people give it such a low rating.


As to whether it can be replaced with the iOS 6 map functionality, it's
too
soon to tell. I imagine that the iOS map feature will rely on data whereas

Navigon doesn't for its maps.


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On 6/14/2012 6:22 PM, Mike Cassidy wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating


is

only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do

people

find Navigon worth the expenditure?

Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
Navigon or similar?

Thanks for your thoughts,

Regards,

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Re: Navigon

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I'm glad i wasn't the only one who was having this issue.
I kept asking myself, where was this particular lake and i didn't think 
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Re: Navigon

[Esubalew Johnston]

Yes I agree about Navagon  not giveing turn by turn directions.  I
took it to the Park that I go to all the time but nothing.

On 4/6/13, Barbara Limandri  wrote:
> I am particularly annoyed with the Lake Jeanclia, Oregon as well. There has
>
> never been a Lake Jeanclia in Oregon and Portland is not an insignificant
> little city so a map update isn't the issue as much as not recognizing how
> annoying this is. I have a Nissan Leaf and it really should have accurate
> mapping. If Navigon isn't going to respond then maybe car manufacturers
> should stop using this product. That might get there attention.
> Barbara, Lake Jeanclia (aka Portland, Or)
>
> On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:22:14 PM UTC-7, rmann05 wrote:
>>
>> I tried to have Navigan give me turn-by-turn directions in pedestrian
>> mode, but I didn't get any guidance.  I didn't even hear street names as i
>>
>> crossed them.  For my test, I used the place I work at.
>>  fSent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos"
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I like Navigon a lot. I'm not sure why people give it such a low rating.
>> >
>> As to whether it can be replaced with the iOS 6 map functionality, it's
>> too
>> soon to tell. I imagine that the iOS map feature will rely on data whereas
>>
>> Navigon doesn't for its maps.
>> >
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>> > If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get
>> >
>> soaking wet.
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>> >
>> >
>> > On 6/14/2012 6:22 PM, Mike Cassidy wrote:
>> >> Hi Folks,
>> >>
>> >> I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating
>> >>
>> is
>> >> only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do
>> people
>> >> find Navigon worth the expenditure?
>> >>
>> >> Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for
>> >> Navigon or similar?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for your thoughts,
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
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Re: Navigon

[Barbara Limandri]

I am particularly annoyed with the Lake Jeanclia, Oregon as well. There has 
never been a Lake Jeanclia in Oregon and Portland is not an insignificant 
little city so a map update isn't the issue as much as not recognizing how 
annoying this is. I have a Nissan Leaf and it really should have accurate 
mapping. If Navigon isn't going to respond then maybe car manufacturers 
should stop using this product. That might get there attention.
Barbara, Lake Jeanclia (aka Portland, Or)

On Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:22:14 PM UTC-7, rmann05 wrote:
>
> I tried to have Navigan give me turn-by-turn directions in pedestrian 
> mode, but I didn't get any guidance.  I didn't even hear street names as i 
> crossed them.  For my test, I used the place I work at. 
>  fSent from my iPhone 
>
> On Jun 14, 2012, at 7:02 PM, "Raul A. Gallegos" 
> > 
> wrote: 
>
> > I like Navigon a lot. I'm not sure why people give it such a low rating. 
> As to whether it can be replaced with the iOS 6 map functionality, it's too 
> soon to tell. I imagine that the iOS map feature will rely on data whereas 
> Navigon doesn't for its maps. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Raul A. Gallegos 
> > If you let a smile be your umbrella, then most likely your butt will get 
> soaking wet. 
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> > Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 
> > 
> > 
> > On 6/14/2012 6:22 PM, Mike Cassidy wrote: 
> >> Hi Folks, 
> >> 
> >> I'm wondering about purchasing Navigon, but see that its review rating 
> is 
> >> only 2 stars; is this a true reflection of the app's value, or do 
> people 
> >> find Navigon worth the expenditure? 
> >> 
> >> Secondly, is the navigation app in IOS6 going to be a replacement for 
> >> Navigon or similar? 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for your thoughts, 
> >> 
> >> Regards, 
> >> 
> >> Mike 
> >> 
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Re: Navigon usage and battery life.

[Terje Strømberg]

Hi

At least with Blind Square and Sendero Lookaround.

take care



Den 31. mars 2013 kl. 18:46 skrev "Pablo Morales" :

> Oh, I didn't know that. I am able to run another gps apps, when I have 
> navigon in the background?
> It is so helpfull.
> P
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:16 AM
> Subject: RE: Navigon usage and battery life.
> 
> Hi Jay,
>  
> Yes, Navigon’s voice guidance works if the screen is locked or if the app is 
> in the background. Many of us use Navigon to setup a route, then open another 
> app like Sendero LookAround, Ariadne or BlindSquare to get better 
> announcvements about upcoming cross streets etc.
>  
> When GPS apps are running, battery does get used up a lot, so what you 
> describe including the fact the iPhone got a little warm all sounds pretty 
> normal. Locking the screen will definitely help some.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> still gives you
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Exracer
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon usage and battery life.
>  
> Hi. Well, the trip that I took by car yesterday went well testing my Navigon 
> app and it was very helpful hearing about different streets as my dad took a 
> different rout than the app wanted him to take and it had torecalibrate. 
> I used it with a set of Aftershocks headphones plugged in and am wondering 
> about the battery usage yesterday. I left home fully charged and after the 
> trip, 45 minutes later, it had used up 30 percent of my battery. Iam 
> wondering if this was accessive or not and am also wondering if the app would 
> have continued to work and give me turn by turn navigation with the lock
> screen active. During that whole trip, the phone was unlocked. Has anyone
> tried Navigon with the screen locked and does it still work? Is there any way 
> to save a little battery life on the phone as I found that the rapid 
> discharge actually caused my phone to heat up.
>  
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Re: Navigon usage and battery life.

[Pablo Morales]

Oh, I didn't know that. I am able to run another gps apps, when I have navigon 
in the background?
It is so helpfull.
P

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:16 AM
  Subject: RE: Navigon usage and battery life.


  Hi Jay,

   

  Yes, Navigon's voice guidance works if the screen is locked or if the app is 
in the background. Many of us use Navigon to setup a route, then open another 
app like Sendero LookAround, Ariadne or BlindSquare to get better 
announcvements about upcoming cross streets etc.

   

  When GPS apps are running, battery does get used up a lot, so what you 
describe including the fact the iPhone got a little warm all sounds pretty 
normal. Locking the screen will definitely help some.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  still gives you 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Exracer
  Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:49 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Navigon usage and battery life.

   

  Hi. Well, the trip that I took by car yesterday went well testing my Navigon 
app and it was very helpful hearing about different streets as my dad took a 
different rout than the app wanted him to take and it had to recalibrate. I 
used it with a set of Aftershocks headphones plugged in and am wondering about 
the battery usage yesterday. I left home fully charged and after the trip, 45 
minutes later, it had used up 30 percent of my battery. I am wondering if this 
was accessive or not and am also wondering if the app would have continued to 
work and give me turn by turn navigation with the lock screen active. During 
that whole trip, the phone was unlocked. Has anyone tried Navigon with the 
screen locked and does it still work? Is there any way to save a little battery 
life on the phone as I found that the rapid discharge actually caused my phone 
to heat up.

   

  Jay

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RE: Navigon usage and battery life.

[Exracer]

Hi Sieghard and thanks for this. I am taking a Trip to Toronto on Wednesday
and will probably have Navigon running for about an hour and half so will
give it a try with the screen locked then. Thanks for the assistance and
answers.

 

Jay

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigon usage and battery life.

 

Hi Jay,

 

Yes, Navigon's voice guidance works if the screen is locked or if the app is
in the background. Many of us use Navigon to setup a route, then open
another app like Sendero LookAround, Ariadne or BlindSquare to get better
announcvements about upcoming cross streets etc.

 

When GPS apps are running, battery does get used up a lot, so what you
describe including the fact the iPhone got a little warm all sounds pretty
normal. Locking the screen will definitely help some.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

still gives you 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Exracer
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon usage and battery life.

 

Hi. Well, the trip that I took by car yesterday went well testing my Navigon
app and it was very helpful hearing about different streets as my dad took a
different rout than the app wanted him to take and it had to recalibrate. I
used it with a set of Aftershocks headphones plugged in and am wondering
about the battery usage yesterday. I left home fully charged and after the
trip, 45 minutes later, it had used up 30 percent of my battery. I am
wondering if this was accessive or not and am also wondering if the app
would have continued to work and give me turn by turn navigation with the
lock screen active. During that whole trip, the phone was unlocked. Has
anyone tried Navigon with the screen locked and does it still work? Is there
any way to save a little battery life on the phone as I found that the rapid
discharge actually caused my phone to heat up.

 

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RE: Navigon usage and battery life.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Jay,

 

Yes, Navigon's voice guidance works if the screen is locked or if the app is
in the background. Many of us use Navigon to setup a route, then open
another app like Sendero LookAround, Ariadne or BlindSquare to get better
announcvements about upcoming cross streets etc.

 

When GPS apps are running, battery does get used up a lot, so what you
describe including the fact the iPhone got a little warm all sounds pretty
normal. Locking the screen will definitely help some.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

still gives you 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Exracer
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 5:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon usage and battery life.

 

Hi. Well, the trip that I took by car yesterday went well testing my Navigon
app and it was very helpful hearing about different streets as my dad took a
different rout than the app wanted him to take and it had to recalibrate. I
used it with a set of Aftershocks headphones plugged in and am wondering
about the battery usage yesterday. I left home fully charged and after the
trip, 45 minutes later, it had used up 30 percent of my battery. I am
wondering if this was accessive or not and am also wondering if the app
would have continued to work and give me turn by turn navigation with the
lock screen active. During that whole trip, the phone was unlocked. Has
anyone tried Navigon with the screen locked and does it still work? Is there
any way to save a little battery life on the phone as I found that the rapid
discharge actually caused my phone to heat up.

 

Jay

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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Exracer]

The first thing that you have to do after downloading the app is to go through 
a couple of Navigon warning screens and then the maps download screen will come 
up with an accept changes button on the bottom left. Get the maps you want and 
then it is all self explanatory from there.

Jay

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Teresa Christian
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon questions and clarification.

What am I doing wrong? I can't get to where any of this stuff you are talking 
about is. I can't get it to load. I can't find an okay or except button or 
anything.

On 3/30/13, Thom  wrote:
> Also, make sure that you are set to pedestrian with voice 
> announcement. The one that just says pedestrian won't say the turn by turn 
> instructions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Exracer
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.
>
>
>
> Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined 
> the ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just 
> want to clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with 
> all the Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them 
> all but, what the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got 
> them.
> Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice 
> navigation in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that 
> truly give me voice guided turn by turn navigation now for the 
> pedestrian mode? Also, I am wondering what setting I should have for 
> the route options, Fastest, shortest or optimal. Or, is that something 
> that I will just have to play with? I am taking a trip today up to my 
> parents and it is a 45 minute drive so I will have a good chance to 
> play with it in driving mode anyways. It probably won't be until later 
> this week that I can get out to try it in pedestrian mode. I will be 
> taking public transit from home here to Toronto in the middle of the 
> week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go then in that 
> mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app to get 
> the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential, 
> Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jay
>
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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Exracer]

It all depends on where you are going to travel with the app. I will hardly
ever in my life get outside of Canada so only downloaded that and not the
North America full version of the app. If I could have only gotten the
Ontario map, and paid less than the whole Canadian version, I would have
probably taken that only.

Jay

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

 

If you don't mind me piggybacking on this thread, how do you all know which
version of Navigon to get?  I live in the eastern part of the US, so does
that mean that I go for Navigon North America, Navigon USA, or Navigon U.S>
East?  They are different prices.  Also, it doesn't look to me like the
lower prices are reflected on the App Store.  Does that mean the sale is
over?

 

DJ

 

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Exracer
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.

Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

Thanks

Jay

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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Exracer]

Hi, This was one of the first things that I did in the settings. Thanks for
the tip.

 

Jay

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Thom
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

 

Also, make sure that you are set to pedestrian with voice announcement. The
one that just says pedestrian won't say the turn by turn instructions.

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Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.

Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

Thanks

Jay

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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Exracer]

Hi and thanks, I will take a look at this.

 

Jay

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Noseworthy
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon questions and clarification.

 

Hello:

A little tip:  you might want to purchase "NavigonNow"; a program which
simplifies entering addresses in Navigon.

Cheers.


On 3/30/2013 10:18 AM, Exracer wrote:

Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

Thanks

Jay

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Re: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I also have a podcast on how to enter addresses into navigon. The 
link is below.


http://asmodean.net/podcasts/NavigonAddressInput.mp3

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On 3/30/2013 11:23 AM, Jim Noseworthy wrote:

Hello:

A little tip:  you might want to purchase "NavigonNow"; a program which
simplifies entering addresses in Navigon.

Cheers.


On 3/30/2013 10:18 AM, Exracer wrote:


Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined
the ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just
want to clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with
all the Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn’t need them
all but, what the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them
so got them. Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on
the voice navigation in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will
that truly give me voice guided turn by turn navigation now for the
pedestrian mode? Also, I am wondering what setting I should have for
the route options, Fastest, shortest or optimal. Or, is that something
that I will just have to play with? I am taking a trip today up to my
parents and it is a 45 minute drive so I will have a good chance to
play with it in driving mode anyways. It probably won’t be until later
this week that I can get out to try it in pedestrian mode. I will be
taking public transit from home here to Toronto in the middle of the
week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go then in that
mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app to get
the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

Thanks

Jay

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Re: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Teresa Christian]

What am I doing wrong? I can't get to where any of this stuff you are
talking about is. I can't get it to load. I can't find an okay or
except button or anything.

On 3/30/13, Thom  wrote:
> Also, make sure that you are set to pedestrian with voice announcement. The
> one that just says pedestrian won't say the turn by turn instructions.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Exracer
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.
>
>
>
> Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
> ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
> clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
> Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
> the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
> Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
> in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
> guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
> wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
> shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
> with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
> so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
> probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
> pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
> in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a
> go
> then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this
> app
> to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
> Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Jay
>
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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Thom]

If you just plan to have travels in the eastern US, then get Eastern. There
is no need to purchase north american if you don't travel far and wide.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of DJ
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigon questions and clarification.


If you don't mind me piggybacking on this thread, how do you all know which
version of Navigon to get?  I live in the eastern part of the US, so does
that mean that I go for Navigon North America, Navigon USA, or Navigon U.S>
East?  They are different prices.  Also, it doesn't look to me like the
lower prices are reflected on the App Store.  Does that mean the sale is
over?
 
DJ
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Exracer
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.



Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

Thanks

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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[DJ]

If you don't mind me piggybacking on this thread, how do you all know which
version of Navigon to get?  I live in the eastern part of the US, so does
that mean that I go for Navigon North America, Navigon USA, or Navigon U.S>
East?  They are different prices.  Also, it doesn't look to me like the
lower prices are reflected on the App Store.  Does that mean the sale is
over?
 
DJ
 
 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Exracer
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.



Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

Thanks

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RE: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Thom]

Also, make sure that you are set to pedestrian with voice announcement. The
one that just says pedestrian won't say the turn by turn instructions.

-Original Message-
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Of Exracer
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 9:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon questions and clarification.



Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined the
ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just want to
clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with all the
Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them all but, what
the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them so got them.
Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on the voice navigation
in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will that truly give me voice
guided turn by turn navigation now for the pedestrian mode? Also, I am
wondering what setting I should have for the route options, Fastest,
shortest or optimal. Or, is that something that I will just have to play
with? I am taking a trip today up to my parents and it is a 45 minute drive
so I will have a good chance to play with it in driving mode anyways. It
probably won't be until later this week that I can get out to try it in
pedestrian mode. I will be taking public transit from home here to Toronto
in the middle of the week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go
then in that mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app
to get the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential,
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.

 

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Re: Navigon questions and clarification.

[Jim Noseworthy]

Hello:

A little tip:  you might want to purchase "NavigonNow"; a program which 
simplifies entering addresses in Navigon.


Cheers.


On 3/30/2013 10:18 AM, Exracer wrote:


Hi all and good Morning. Happy Easter to you all also. I just joined 
the ranks of so many here and downloaded onto my 4S, Navigon and just 
want to clarify a few things. I have it installed onto my phone with 
all the Canadian maps downloaded as well. I probably didn't need them 
all but, what the heck, I had the room on my phone and I paid for them 
so got them. Anyways, I went through all the settings and turned on 
the voice navigation in pedestrian mode and just want to clarify, will 
that truly give me voice guided turn by turn navigation now for the 
pedestrian mode? Also, I am wondering what setting I should have for 
the route options, Fastest, shortest or optimal. Or, is that something 
that I will just have to play with? I am taking a trip today up to my 
parents and it is a 45 minute drive so I will have a good chance to 
play with it in driving mode anyways. It probably won't be until later 
this week that I can get out to try it in pedestrian mode. I will be 
taking public transit from home here to Toronto in the middle of the 
week and it is about an hours ride. I will give it a go then in that 
mode also. If there is anything that I am missing with this app to get 
the best performance out of it and use it to its full potential, 
Please let me know. I think it will be a valuable tool in the near future.


Thanks

Jay

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Re: navigon, offering new things

[Jennie Facer]

No. The new Navigon is already out, and the sale is for people who haven't 
bought it yet. 

Jenn

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 29, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:

> Hi all.
> I received an eMail from navigon, saying than in a few days will be available 
> the new navigon xxx, I don't remember the number, and it says that it will be 
> 35% less, if I buy it.
> I have navigon allready, so it means that I have to pay again for this update?
> Thanks for the clarafication.
> P
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Updating apps - Was Re: Navigon Update

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hi, I think you have asked this question in 3 or 4 different formats. 
The bottom line though, is that you cannot store the apps on different 
media like usb sticks or a connected usb add-on for the iPhone. They 
must always be installed like all other apps. So, if you are trying to 
update and you don't have enough room, you will have to delete some apps 
to make room. It's also possible that other things are taking up too 
much space, like pictures or music or videos.


Good luck.

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On 3/22/2013 7:23 PM, Mary Ellen Sanchez wrote:

I had a question. If I am unable to update my aps it says I don't have
enough storage. I wonder could I move some of myaps to my usb drive and use
my phone that way? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Subject: Re: Navigon Update

Hi,

No issues here.

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On 23/03/2013, at 8:33 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:


Okay, folks anyone out there taken the plung and updated Navigon? I am

taking the chicken way out waiting to see if it is still working.


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Re: Navigon Update

[David Chittenden]

No, you need to delete apps, songs, or other data, or use iTunes on a computer 
to update apps. 

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> my phone that way? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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> 
> No issues here. 
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> taking the chicken way out waiting to see if it is still working.
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Re: Navigon Update

[Tom Frank]

Check in Settings under usage and see what apps are taking up the most room. 
You can always delete the ones you don't use. I tunes remembers the ones you 
have purchased so you won't get charged again if you delete one by mistake.
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> enough storage. I wonder could I move some of myaps to my usb drive and use
> my phone that way? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
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> Hi, 
> 
> No issues here. 
> 
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RE: Navigon Update

[Mary Ellen Sanchez]

I had a question. If I am unable to update my aps it says I don't have
enough storage. I wonder could I move some of myaps to my usb drive and use
my phone that way? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Hi, 

No issues here. 

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Re: Navigon Update

[Larry Smith]

Yes, navigon still works.
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Re: Navigon Update

[Troy Sullivan]

Just opened it after updating, looks the same to me.
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Subject: Re: Navigon Update



Hi,

No issues here.

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RE: Navigon Update

[Jesus Garcia]

Great will run the upgrade in a few.

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Hi, 

No issues here. 

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Re: Navigon Update

[Brett]

Hi, 

No issues here. 

Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone

On 23/03/2013, at 8:33 AM, Jesus Garcia  wrote:

> Okay, folks anyone out there taken the plung and updated Navigon? I am taking 
> the chicken way out waiting to see if it is still working.
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Re: Navigon question, please help.

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

The Map Manager is the tab you need to be in, its the 3rd or 4th tab in from 
the bottom left on the iPhone. different if you are using Navigon on the iPad.

Within here, I have found that simply flicking left to right does not inform 
you which map is downloaded or marked for it.

So, find the maps you defenately want, and double tap, now, physically drag 
your finder down the screen and you'll find Voice Over will additionally tell 
you if the map is marked for download or not.



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On 28 Jan 2013, at 22:15, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> You have only downloaded the maps who is marked. For instance, if you double 
> tap on a map it will download or remove. The name of the countries are only 
> buttons, empty. Until you tell them to download or remove. In map manager at 
> the bottom ofthe screen.
> 
> Take care 
> 
> Den 28. jan. 2013 kl. 16:57 skrev "Eileen Misrahi" :
> 
>> Hello, 
>> 
>> I can only talk for Navigon USA, but at the bottom right (I believe) there
>> is a tab called "Map Manager." Tap on that. It will open the screen where
>> you have all the maps downloaded. When I first installed the app, I was able
>> to control which maps to install with Navigon. I have "TomTom" for w.
>> Europe, and all the maps were downloaded. I didn't have this option. Take a
>> look and see if you can delete the maps that you don't use. HTH. 
>> 
>> Eileen 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:38 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Navigon question, please help.
>> 
>> Hi list,
>> I have been using Navigon Europe.
>> My question is how can I see what maps (countries) are downloaded on my
>> iphone and in case I do not want the map of a certain country, How can I
>> remove it from the phone??
>> Thank you very much for your help.
>> Maria
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Re: Navigon question, please help.

[Terje Strømberg]

You have only downloaded the maps who is marked. For instance, if you double 
tap on a map it will dowmload or remove. The name of the countries are only 
buttons, empty. Until you tell them to download or remove. In map manager at 
the bottom ofthe screen.

Take care 

Den 28. jan. 2013 kl. 16:57 skrev "Eileen Misrahi" :

> Hello, 
> 
> I can only talk for Navigon USA, but at the bottom right (I believe) there
> is a tab called "Map Manager." Tap on that. It will open the screen where
> you have all the maps downloaded. When I first installed the app, I was able
> to control which maps to install with Navigon. I have "TomTom" for w.
> Europe, and all the maps were downloaded. I didn't have this option. Take a
> look and see if you can delete the maps that you don't use. HTH. 
> 
> Eileen 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Navigon question, please help.
> 
> Hi list,
> I have been using Navigon Europe.
> My question is how can I see what maps (countries) are downloaded on my
> iphone and in case I do not want the map of a certain country, How can I
> remove it from the phone??
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Maria
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RE: Navigon question, please help.

[Eileen Misrahi]

Hello, 

I can only talk for Navigon USA, but at the bottom right (I believe) there
is a tab called "Map Manager." Tap on that. It will open the screen where
you have all the maps downloaded. When I first installed the app, I was able
to control which maps to install with Navigon. I have "TomTom" for w.
Europe, and all the maps were downloaded. I didn't have this option. Take a
look and see if you can delete the maps that you don't use. HTH. 

Eileen 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigon question, please help.

Hi list,
I have been using Navigon Europe.
My question is how can I see what maps (countries) are downloaded on my
iphone and in case I do not want the map of a certain country, How can I
remove it from the phone??
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria

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controlling your directions while walking and other suggestions was Re: Navigon

[William Windels]

Hello all,
I enjoy navigon also very much and I have 2.3 on my iphone5 with iOS 6.02.

But, I think some quality is lost if you use the bps-program for walking , as 
blind user.

In previous versions, the program could create a dynamic tekst with the streets 
you should take, the directions you should turn and the distances you should 
walk.
There are 2 advantages possible with this feature: you could look forward in 
the way you have to walk and, perhaps most important, you should be informed if 
you are taking the wrong way when your walk isn't what's written in the test.
This is a extra feature next to the turn by turn feature and is gone in the 
last release of navigon. At the moment , you can only see the whole trip on a 
card.

If someone find this also a important disadvantage , you can write your 
comments about this or other suggestions on:
http://www8.garmin.com/contactUs/ideas/

I hope this can be helpful,
kind regards, 
William Windels

Op 15-jan.-2013, om 17:48 heeft Beverly  het volgende 
geschreven:

> No.
> 
> Beverly
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Terje Strømberg" 
> To: "Terje Strømberg" 
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:27 PM
> Subject: Navigon
> 
> 
>> Considering putting money on the table for Navygon, but after reading 
>> negative reviws in the app store appfor the iphone, for the nordics, 
>> skepticism is increasing.
>> 
>> After Navigon updates, probably late 2012, for your country- region, do you 
>> experience increase in o unsatisfactory navigation?
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Re: Navigon

[Beverly]

No.

Beverly

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- Original Message - 
From: "Terje Strømberg" 

To: "Terje Strømberg" 
Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2013 1:27 PM
Subject: Navigon


Considering putting money on the table for Navygon, but after reading 
negative reviws in the app store appfor the iphone, for the nordics, 
skepticism is increasing.


After Navigon updates, probably late 2012, for your country- region, do 
you experience increase in o unsatisfactory navigation?


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Re: Navigon

[Beverly]

I certainly agree wholeheartedly. I used it last week while in California and 
we never got lost!

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Neil Barnfather - TalkNav 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 10:33 AM
  Subject: Re: Navigon


  I use Navigon a lot, and have nothing but praise for it. I find it both 
reliable and effective.






  Regards,


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  On 13 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Terje Strømberg  wrote:


Considering putting money on the table for Navygon, but after reading 
negative reviws in the app store appfor the iphone, for the nordics, skepticism 
is increasing.  

After Navigon updates, probably late 2012, for your country- region, do you 
experience increase in o unsatisfactory navigation?  

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Re: Navigon

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

I use Navigon a lot, and have nothing but praise for it. I find it both 
reliable and effective.



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On 13 Jan 2013, at 18:27, Terje Strømberg  wrote:

> Considering putting money on the table for Navygon, but after reading 
> negative reviws in the app store appfor the iphone, for the nordics, 
> skepticism is increasing.  
> 
> After Navigon updates, probably late 2012, for your country- region, do you 
> experience increase in o unsatisfactory navigation?  
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RE: Navigon

[Kevin W.]

I agree.  Navagan does very well, and has been a good investment for me.  I
live in an urban area and have never had any issues with false directions.
Wait until it is on sale though as the cost is a bit steep.  

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Of Brett
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 6:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Navigon

Not here, it's always as good as always. I would buy it when it's on sail,
if you can wait. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

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Re: Navigon

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Not here, it's always as good as always. I would buy it when it's on sail, if 
you can wait. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Reggie,

While Motion X has a walking mode, I haven't tested it.  My understanding from 
listening to Mike Arrigo's podcast which included a review of Motion X is that 
intersections are not always, or perhaps even, generally announced prior to 
your reaching them.  With BlindSquare, whether you are riding or walking, 
intersections are announced, at least during my initial testing of this app.  I 
often go to my former office and BlindSquare announces the address of my office 
building as I approach it,probably within 10 to 20 feet, so I'm quite pleased 
with this.  I will try Motion X for walking at some point; for vehicular 
travel, it's my personal favorite right now.  I must admit that earlier this 
year, I lost confidence in Navigon  We were going to Hartford's airport, and we 
were going to be taken about an hour out of our way.  When I tried to re-create 
the route once we were on the right road, Navigon indicated that there was no 
map data available.  That's when I decided to go with Motion X.  Now perhaps I 
had a corrupt download of the Connecticut map, I don't know, but fairly or not, 
I switched to Motion X.

Les
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Regina Alvarado  wrote:

> Les:
> Does BlindSquare give clear walking directions? Does Motion X have walking
> directions or is it just for vehicles?
> Reggie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
> Navigon on sale today only
> 
> I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently
> discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my
> cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick
> up our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A
> Stop to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train
> station via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all
> within one route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!
> Motion X is easy to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for
> vehicular travel.
> 
> Les
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place.
> Both apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also
> load Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
>> 
>> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically
> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I
> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather
> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the
> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets
> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no
> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
>> 
>> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is
> familiar. With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start
> monitor button. I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current
> location and then close it again.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Raul.
>>> 
>>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use
> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious
> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or
> the other.
>>> 
>>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe
> it a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
> Navigon on sale today only
>>> 
>>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[David Chittenden]

I find Apple Maps works quite well here in Wellington, New Zealand.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/11/2012, at 8:19, "heather albright"  wrote:

> I was worried about the GPS apps after I heard about the issues with the new 
> maps on the iphone 5.  Have they fixed this?
> contact:
> home and cell:
> 5126803985
> "Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> e-mail: kd5...@gmail.com
> sskype: cynterline
> websites:
> islamic text for the blind:
> www.Kitaba.org
> blind muslim group:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindmuslimgroup/
> disabled Muslims:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledMuslims/
> Global deaf muslim site:
> http://www.globaldeafmuslim.org/
> National Federation of the Blind:
> www.nfb.org
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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Grant Hardy]

Thanks for the reply Raul. Personally, I feel that the progress
towards a fully accessible GPS experience on the iPhone is tremendous
and exciting. But I have tried Navigon and Ariadne in tandem and don't
really feel that it's "there" yet. Switching apps isn't a big deal for
me, especially since as David pointed out, you can simply have an app
like Navigon running in the background with Ariadne in the foreground.
But I just don't know that it's worth the user investing time and
resources especially into Navigon, as in my opinion the functionality
just isn't there yet.

As you said, it's fair to say that our reliance on GPS apps is a tad
too high. But that doesn't seem to be a reason to suggest that we need
less functionality. If you don't need cross streets, intersection
announcements, the ability to set up custom routes, and so forth, then
chances are you probably don't need more than the built-in Apple Maps
(if anything) or Ariadne for a quick refresher on just where you are.

Personally, I feel that the functionality offered by, say, Sendero for
the BrailleNote, is invaluable. Firstly, it's important to get an idea
of how an area is mapped out beyond simply relying on people to tell
you, which includes descriptions of intersections and upcoming crossed
streets. Secondly, it's a valuable resource when traversing "pretty
familiar", but not "totally second nature" routes.

As David said hopping on a bus and getting an idea of when your stop
is coming up, is exactly the kind of functionality that's easy to get
on an iPhone right now. But for a true GPS solution I see the
blindness-specific product as the way to go, at least for now.

On 11/27/12, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding
> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it
> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me,
> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
> have.
>
> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is
> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products
> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user
> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using
> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne,
> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know
> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip
> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to
> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction
> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I
> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero
> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I
> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make
> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the
> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I
> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the
> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as
> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at
> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel
> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in
> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one
> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with
> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all
> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this
> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they
> are far more than what we used to have.
>
> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS
> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it
> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra
> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a
> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it
> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I
> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking
> for me.
>
> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that
> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not
> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However,
> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on
> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need
> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>
> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll
> leave it at that.
>
> Hope this helped to answer your questi

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Andy Baracco]

Many apps such as Navigon, Tom tom, and Motion X GPS use their own maps.

Andy

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Merritt

Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: 
Navigon on sale today only


I have an iPhone 5 and have not experienced any trouble with the Maps
application. Only twice have I been told that maps were not available,
out of the maybe 10 or 15 times that I have used them. go figure.

Regards,
Wayne

On 11/28/12, heather albright  wrote:
I was worried about the GPS apps after I heard about the issues with the 
new


maps on the iphone 5.  Have they fixed this?
contact:
home and cell:
5126803985
"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail: kd5...@gmail.com
sskype: cynterline
websites:
islamic text for the blind:
www.Kitaba.org
blind muslim group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindmuslimgroup/
disabled Muslims:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledMuslims/
Global deaf muslim site:
http://www.globaldeafmuslim.org/
National Federation of the Blind:
www.nfb.org

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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Wayne Merritt]

I have an iPhone 5 and have not experienced any trouble with the Maps
application. Only twice have I been told that maps were not available,
out of the maybe 10 or 15 times that I have used them. go figure.

Regards,
Wayne

On 11/28/12, heather albright  wrote:
> I was worried about the GPS apps after I heard about the issues with the new
>
> maps on the iphone 5.  Have they fixed this?
> contact:
> home and cell:
> 5126803985
> "Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
> e-mail: kd5...@gmail.com
> sskype: cynterline
> websites:
> islamic text for the blind:
> www.Kitaba.org
> blind muslim group:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindmuslimgroup/
> disabled Muslims:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledMuslims/
> Global deaf muslim site:
> http://www.globaldeafmuslim.org/
> National Federation of the Blind:
> www.nfb.org
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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[heather albright]

I was worried about the GPS apps after I heard about the issues with the new 
maps on the iphone 5.  Have they fixed this?

contact:
home and cell:
5126803985
"Blindness is a characteristic, not a handicap!" Dr. Kenneth Jernigan
e-mail: kd5...@gmail.com
sskype: cynterline
websites:
islamic text for the blind:
www.Kitaba.org
blind muslim group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blindmuslimgroup/
disabled Muslims:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DisabledMuslims/
Global deaf muslim site:
http://www.globaldeafmuslim.org/
National Federation of the Blind:
www.nfb.org

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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Len Burns]

I cannot address BlindSquare, but I can tell you that MotionX is
switchable between driving and walking directions.  You can set a default.

I have at times seem some slightly tricky behavior with the screen, but
once set, it's accuracy in my area exceeds Sendero running on my Windows
based phone as well as the old Wayfinder Access software that ran on
Nokia phones.

-Len

On 11/28/2012 12:02 PM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
> Les:
> Does BlindSquare give clear walking directions? Does Motion X have walking
> directions or is it just for vehicles?
> Reggie
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Les Kriegler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
> Navigon on sale today only
> 
> I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently
> discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my
> cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick
> up our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A
> Stop to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train
> station via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all
> within one route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!
> Motion X is easy to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for
> vehicular travel.
> 
> Les
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place.
> Both apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also
> load Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
>>
>> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically
> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I
> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather
> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the
> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets
> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no
> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
>>
>> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is
> familiar. With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start
> monitor button. I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current
> location and then close it again.
>>
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
>  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Raul.
>>>
>>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use
> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious
> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or
> the other.
>>>
>>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe
> it a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
> Navigon on sale today only
>>>
>>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
>>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
> have.
>>>
>>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
>>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
>>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
>>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
>>> it. Of 

RE: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Regina Alvarado]

Les:
Does BlindSquare give clear walking directions? Does Motion X have walking
directions or is it just for vehicles?
Reggie


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Les Kriegler
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 6:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
Navigon on sale today only

I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently
discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my
cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick
up our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A
Stop to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train
station via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all
within one route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!
Motion X is easy to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for
vehicular travel.

Les
On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place.
Both apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also
load Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
> 
> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically
announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I
need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather
than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the
nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets
close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no
longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
> 
> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is
familiar. With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start
monitor button. I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current
location and then close it again.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
 wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Raul.
>> 
>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use
both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious
how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or
the other.
>> 
>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe
it a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
Navigon on sale today only
>> 
>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
have.
>> 
>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I sai

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[David Chittenden]

Yes, I am blind and use TomTom. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/11/2012, at 0:10, "Mohammed abbas Rashid"  
wrote:

> Hi. Does Tomtom work with Voiceover?
> 
> Much appreciated.
> 
> Many thanks and kind regards
> Mohammed Rashid
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of David Chittenden
> Sent: 27 November 2012 22:21
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
> Navigon on sale today only
> 
> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both
> apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load
> Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
> 
> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically
> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I
> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather
> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the
> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets
> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no
> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
> 
> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar.
> With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button.
> I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and
> then close it again.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Raul.
>> 
>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use
> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious
> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or
> the other.
>> 
>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe
> it a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was 
>> Re: Navigon on sale today only
>> 
>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not 
>> responding sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just 
>> now found it again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning 
>> that for me, what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking
> in what I have.
>> 
>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and 
>> Ariadne, or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get 
>> to know what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, 
>> the zip code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I 
>> get to it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn 
>> direction list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for 
>> this if I want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working 
>> with Sendero to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset 
>> working right, I didn't use all the features available unless I was 
>> testing them to make sure they work. For example, I don't need to 
>> always know if the intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, 
>> or if it dead ends. I don't need constant announcement of how close I 
>> am getting to the upcoming intersection. I don't always need the 
>> street name announced as I'm crossing it. All these are good features 
>> to have, but as I said at the beginning of this post, it depends on 
>> what the user wants. I feel that if the user wants the exact level of 
>> access and features found in the sendero products, and if the user 
>> wants this all available from one app so they don't have to switch, 
>> then they will be unsatis

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Sharonda Greenlaw]

Yes Motion X is incredibly accurate. I use it to help us get to mew places 
often.  And we always arrive there without delay. 
I love that app myself! 
~Sharonda 

Sent from my iPhone; please excuse all mistakes 

On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:17 AM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

> I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently 
> discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my 
> cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick 
> up our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A 
> Stop to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train 
> station via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all 
> within one route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!  
> Motion X is easy to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for 
> vehicular travel.
> 
> Les
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:
> 
>> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both 
>> apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load 
>> Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
>> 
>> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically 
>> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I 
>> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather 
>> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the 
>> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets 
>> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no 
>> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
>> 
>> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar. 
>> With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button. 
>> I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and 
>> then close it again.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks, Raul.
>>> 
>>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use 
>>> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious 
>>> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or 
>>> the other.
>>> 
>>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe it 
>>> a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: 
>>> Navigon on sale today only
>>> 
>>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
>>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.
>>> 
>>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
>>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
>>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
>>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
>>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
>>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
>>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
>>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
>>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
>>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
>>> intersection I&#x

RE: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Mohammed abbas Rashid]

Hi. Does Tomtom work with Voiceover?

Much appreciated.

Many thanks and kind regards
Mohammed Rashid

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: 27 November 2012 22:21
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re:
Navigon on sale today only

I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both
apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load
Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.

I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically
announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I
need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather
than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the
nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets
close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no
longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.

I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar.
With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button.
I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and
then close it again.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D."
 wrote:

> Thanks, Raul.
> 
> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use
both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious
how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or
the other.
> 
> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe
it a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
> 
> Thanks in advance. Keith
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was 
> Re: Navigon on sale today only
> 
> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not 
> responding sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just 
> now found it again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning 
> that for me, what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking
in what I have.
> 
> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and 
> Ariadne, or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get 
> to know what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, 
> the zip code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I 
> get to it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn 
> direction list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for 
> this if I want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working 
> with Sendero to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset 
> working right, I didn't use all the features available unless I was 
> testing them to make sure they work. For example, I don't need to 
> always know if the intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, 
> or if it dead ends. I don't need constant announcement of how close I 
> am getting to the upcoming intersection. I don't always need the 
> street name announced as I'm crossing it. All these are good features 
> to have, but as I said at the beginning of this post, it depends on 
> what the user wants. I feel that if the user wants the exact level of 
> access and features found in the sendero products, and if the user 
> wants this all available from one app so they don't have to switch, 
> then they will be unsatisfied with what the iPhone currently offers. 
> However if the user doesn't need all the extra features, and is ok 
> with using at least 2 apps to get this level, then the current 
> solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they are far more than what we
used to have.
> 
> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS 
> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, 
> it will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those 
> extr

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Les Kriegler]

I use Motion X GPSDrive and for walking, I now use BlindSquare.  I recently 
discovered a really neat feature with Motion X.  I created a route to my 
cousin's last Thursday and then created a route to the train station to pick up 
our son.  I had the usual clear route option, but I noticed I could Add A Stop 
to the original route.  What that meant was that we went to the train station 
via Motion X first and then proceeded to my cousin's house, all within one 
route instead of two separate routes.  A really cool feature!  Motion X is easy 
to use, totally accessible and incredibly accurate for vehicular travel.

Les
On Nov 27, 2012, at 5:20 PM, David Chittenden  wrote:

> I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both 
> apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load 
> Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.
> 
> I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically 
> announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I 
> need now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather 
> than cross streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the 
> nearby addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets 
> close, I ring the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no 
> longer need to ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.
> 
> I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar. 
> With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button. 
> I can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and then 
> close it again.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Thanks, Raul.
>> 
>> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use 
>> both on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious 
>> how you use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or 
>> the other.
>> 
>> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe it 
>> a bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance. Keith 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: 
>> Navigon on sale today only
>> 
>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.
>> 
>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at 
>> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel 
>> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in 
>> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one 
>> app so they don

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[David Chittenden]

I use Navigon or TomTom when I require complete directions to a place. Both 
apps can run in the background when a route is running, so you can also load 
Ariadne or one of the apps which displays nearby POIs if you wish.

I usually just use Ariadne because it has a feature which automatically 
announces the updated address every 40 seconds or so. This is often all I need 
now that I have trained myself to navigate via street address rather than cross 
streets. One of my primary uses is on the bus. I have learned the nearby 
addresses for the stop I require. When the announced address gets close, I ring 
the bell and exit at my desired bus stop. In most cases, I no longer need to 
ask the bus driver for my stop to be announced.

I also use Ariadne when looking for an address in an area that is familiar. 
With Ariadne, I just activate the app and activate the start monitor button. I 
can even activate Ariadne for a quick check of my current location and then 
close it again.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 28/11/2012, at 10:53, "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." 
 wrote:

> Thanks, Raul.
> 
> Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use both 
> on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious how you 
> use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or the other.
> 
> Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe it a 
> bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.
> 
> Thanks in advance. Keith 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: 
> Navigon on sale today only
> 
> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.
> 
> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at 
> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel 
> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in 
> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one 
> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with 
> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all 
> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this 
> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they 
> are far more than what we used to have.
> 
> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS 
> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone. 
> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it 
> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra 
> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a 
> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it 
> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I 
> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking 
> for me.
> 
> The other th

RE: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.]

Thanks, Raul.

Can you expand a bit on how you use the 2 GPS in combination? Do you use both 
on one route, or sometimes one and sometimes another? I'd be curious how you 
use both simultaneously, or even how you decide when to use one or the other.

Also, Waze is new to me; haven't heard that one before. Can you describe it a 
bit? It sounds like it's a substitute for Navigon at times.

Thanks in advance. Keith 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 5:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon 
on sale today only

Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.

Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at 
the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel 
that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in 
the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one 
app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with 
what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all 
the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this 
level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they 
are far more than what we used to have.

Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS 
products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone. 
I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it 
will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra 
features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a 
solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it 
all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I 
can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking 
for me.

The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that 
there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not 
knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However, 
let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on 
your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need 
to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.

However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll 
leave it at that.

Hope this helped to answer your question.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
> Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
> very much appreciated.
>
> Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
> functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
> products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've
> always felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only
> I had the right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in
> combination with either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it
> for me.
>
> Grant

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Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Wayne Merritt]

Yes. When presented with the list of possible routes, you can
swipe/flick between the different routes. When on a route, such as
route 2, double tap it, then swipe/flick through that area of the
screen to view the time it will take and other information. When you
want to begin the selected route, double tap the start button that
appears after the list of routes.

Hth,
Wayne

On 11/27/12, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Is there an accessible way to choose which route to take when Maps offers
> several? I can't figure out how to move to any route besides the first, and
> while VO speaks the time the route will take, I can't figure out a way to
> find anything else out about the route.
>
> Thanks,
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
>
>> Though it may not be as applicable for everyone, don't forget about
>> the built in Maps features of iOS 6, with the new iPhone 5 and other
>> recent iPhones and iPod Touches, which offer voice guidance if VO is
>> off, and a spoken list of directions if VO is on. The more I use Maps
>> for GPS in my wife's car, the more I like it. I have found that by
>> double tapping on an address in contacts, Maps automatically comes up
>> with a choice of routes to take. All I have to do is choose a route,
>> hit the route or start button, and then turn VO off for the spoken
>> directions. Maps seems to offer the right amount of spoken
>> announcements, not too much but not too little. When setting up the
>> route you want to travel, you can switch between car, pedestrian or
>> transit direction options.
>>
>> Jmt,
>> Wayne
>>
>> On 11/27/12, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
>>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding
>>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it
>>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me,
>>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
>>> have.
>>>
>>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is
>>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products
>>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user
>>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using
>>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne,
>>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know
>>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip
>>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to
>>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction
>>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I
>>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero
>>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I
>>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make
>>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the
>>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I
>>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the
>>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as
>>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at
>>> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel
>>> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in
>>> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one
>>> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with
>>> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all
>>> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this
>>> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they
>>> are far more than what we used to have.
>>>
>>> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS
>>> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
>>> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it
>>> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra
>>> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a
>>> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it
>>> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I
>>> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking
>>> for me.
>>>
>>> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that
>>> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not
>>> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However,
>>> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on
>>> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need
>>> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>>>
>>> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll
>>>

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Wayne,

Is there an accessible way to choose which route to take when Maps offers 
several? I can't figure out how to move to any route besides the first, and 
while VO speaks the time the route will take, I can't figure out a way to find 
anything else out about the route.

Thanks,
Anna



On Nov 27, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:

> Though it may not be as applicable for everyone, don't forget about
> the built in Maps features of iOS 6, with the new iPhone 5 and other
> recent iPhones and iPod Touches, which offer voice guidance if VO is
> off, and a spoken list of directions if VO is on. The more I use Maps
> for GPS in my wife's car, the more I like it. I have found that by
> double tapping on an address in contacts, Maps automatically comes up
> with a choice of routes to take. All I have to do is choose a route,
> hit the route or start button, and then turn VO off for the spoken
> directions. Maps seems to offer the right amount of spoken
> announcements, not too much but not too little. When setting up the
> route you want to travel, you can switch between car, pedestrian or
> transit direction options.
> 
> Jmt,
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/27/12, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
>> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding
>> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it
>> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me,
>> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
>> have.
>> 
>> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is
>> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products
>> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user
>> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using
>> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne,
>> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know
>> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip
>> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to
>> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction
>> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I
>> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero
>> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I
>> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make
>> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the
>> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I
>> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the
>> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as
>> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at
>> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel
>> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in
>> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one
>> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with
>> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all
>> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this
>> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they
>> are far more than what we used to have.
>> 
>> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS
>> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
>> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it
>> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra
>> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a
>> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it
>> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I
>> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking
>> for me.
>> 
>> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that
>> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not
>> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However,
>> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on
>> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need
>> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>> 
>> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll
>> leave it at that.
>> 
>> Hope this helped to answer your question.
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West
>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>> Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
>>> very much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
>>> fun

Re: My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Wayne Merritt]

Though it may not be as applicable for everyone, don't forget about
the built in Maps features of iOS 6, with the new iPhone 5 and other
recent iPhones and iPod Touches, which offer voice guidance if VO is
off, and a spoken list of directions if VO is on. The more I use Maps
for GPS in my wife's car, the more I like it. I have found that by
double tapping on an address in contacts, Maps automatically comes up
with a choice of routes to take. All I have to do is choose a route,
hit the route or start button, and then turn VO off for the spoken
directions. Maps seems to offer the right amount of spoken
announcements, not too much but not too little. When setting up the
route you want to travel, you can switch between car, pedestrian or
transit direction options.

Jmt,
Wayne

On 11/27/12, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding
> sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it
> again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me,
> what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I
> have.
>
> Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is
> expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products
> well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user
> interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using
> Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne,
> or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know
> what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip
> code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to
> it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction
> list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I
> want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero
> to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I
> didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make
> sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the
> intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I
> don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the
> upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as
> I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at
> the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel
> that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in
> the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one
> app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with
> what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all
> the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this
> level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they
> are far more than what we used to have.
>
> Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS
> products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone.
> I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it
> will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra
> features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a
> solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it
> all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I
> can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking
> for me.
>
> The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that
> there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not
> knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However,
> let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on
> your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need
> to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.
>
> However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll
> leave it at that.
>
> Hope this helped to answer your question.
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>
> On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>> Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
>> very much appreciated.
>>
>> Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
>> functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
>> products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've
>> always felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only
>> I had the right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in
>> combination with either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it
>> for me.
>>
>> Grant
>
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My feelings about a total GPS solution for the blind - Was Re: Navigon on sale today only

[Raul A. Gallegos]

Hello Grant, and anyone else interested, my apologies for not responding 
sooner. The message slipped through the cracks and I just now found it 
again. The short answer to your question is yes. Meaning that for me, 
what I have works superbly and I don't feel like I'm lacking in what I have.


Now, the long answer. I think it highly depends on what the user is 
expecting from an accessible GPS solution. I know the Sendero products 
well, and in fact, helped to develop the initial Sendero GPS user 
interface for the Braille Sense from HIMS when they started using 
Sendero. For me personally, using a combination of Navigon and Ariadne, 
or Waze and Ariadne, is enough. In the case of Ariadne, I get to know 
what street I'm on, the addresses I'm walking or driving by, the zip 
code, the direction I'm moving in, and the intersection when I get to 
it. Of course with an app like Navigon I have my turn by turn direction 
list. I can also of course use any other app of choice for this if I 
want. Mapquest, MotionX Drive, ETC. Even when I was working with Sendero 
to get the Braille Sense user interface and featureset working right, I 
didn't use all the features available unless I was testing them to make 
sure they work. For example, I don't need to always know if the 
intersection I'm coming up to is a t intersection, or if it dead ends. I 
don't need constant announcement of how close I am getting to the 
upcoming intersection. I don't always need the street name announced as 
I'm crossing it. All these are good features to have, but as I said at 
the beginning of this post, it depends on what the user wants. I feel 
that if the user wants the exact level of access and features found in 
the sendero products, and if the user wants this all available from one 
app so they don't have to switch, then they will be unsatisfied with 
what the iPhone currently offers. However if the user doesn't need all 
the extra features, and is ok with using at least 2 apps to get this 
level, then the current solutions I think are very nice. In fact, they 
are far more than what we used to have.


Let's also consider the history. How long has Sendero been making GPS 
products, compared to how long have the blind had access to the iPhone. 
I personally feel that when Sendero comes out with their iPhone app, it 
will be a very nice thing and should offer people who need those extra 
features and maybe even more than what I've mentioned, to have a 
solution which will work for them. plus they will have the bonus of it 
all from one app, so there should be no switching. In the mean time, I 
can do what I need to do with what I have and I don't feel it is lacking 
for me.


The other thing I want to mention, and I hate to, but I have to, is that 
there are some people who depend on GPS technology too much. I'm not 
knocking what's out there, because I think it's a great thing. However, 
let's all remember that when using any sort of GPS, always depend on 
your own orientation and mobility skills first. This is why I don't need 
to know if the intersection goes through or dead ends.


However this might open up a debate and a can of GPS worms, and so I'll 
leave it at that.


Hope this helped to answer your question.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
Too much of a good thing can be wonderful. - Mae West
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 11/23/2012 11:47 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was
very much appreciated.

Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've
always felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only
I had the right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in
combination with either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it
for me.

Grant


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RE: Navigon on sale today only

[Thom]

Throwing in my two cents.
I agree with Raul, that Navigon & ariadne are a great tag team. Sometimes I
use one without the other, and sometimes both.

I have not come across a situation where neither have helpped.

I suggest getting Navigon at this half price special.

Thom

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Hi Raul, I want to thank you for this objective comparison; it was very much
appreciated.

Would you say that between Navigon and Ariadne GPS, you could get
functionality roughly equivalent to that offered on blindness-specific
products such as the Breeze or Sendero GPS for the BrailleNote? I've always
felt that the iPhone could rival any other GPS products if only I had the
right app. But I wouldn't say that Ariadne on its own, in combination with
either the old or the new Apple maps, really does it for me.

Grant

On 11/23/12, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Hi, Navigon is the best one for both vehicle and pedestrian travel. Of 
> course this is my opinion and others will have differing mileage with 
> this app. Plus points to Navigon are that it doesn't rely on your cell 
> data because the maps are downloaded locally to your phone. Its 
> interface is easy to use once you familiarize yourself with it. I did 
> a podcast on my home page which describes how to input addresses for 
> getting directions. In conjunction with Ariadne  GPS you can use both 
> to have directions to going somewhere as well as knowing the current 
> street, intersection, and/or direction you are traveling.
>
> Now to some negative points. Navigon is more expensive than many other 
> gps solutions such as Mapquest which is free, or MotionX GPS drive, 
> which costs 1 dollar for the app and then you pay either a monthly 
> usage or yearly usage fee afterwards. Also, some people have reported 
> that Navigon doesn't work for their local area because the maps are 
> not updated properly. For example Richard Turner in Oregon has a bear 
> of a time with this app and so doesn't recommend this for people to 
> use. I respect Richard's opinions and if he says it doesn't work in 
> his area I have no reason to distrust that. I recently went to Seattle 
> Washington and Navigon performed marvelously while I was there, but I 
> haven't tested it in Oregon. Another negative point is that map 
> updates may not be as often as off the air apps such as Mapquest and 
> so there may be out of date maps used, but how often do streets and 
> street names change?
>
> All in all, I'd get it if I was you, even if you don't learn it right 
> away.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
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> have been more specific." - Jane Wagner Home Page: 
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> On 11/23/2012 6:39 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:
>> I noticed that Navigon is half-price today. Do you think it is worth 
>> that much? Yes I know it is normally $50, but can it be used without 
>> having a car?
>>
>> Thank you so much!
>>
>> Jenn
>>
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