Re: Is TapTapSee Out of Commission?

2023-03-24 Thread Barbara Stahl
You're welcome I'm glad I could help

> On Mar 24, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Evan Reese  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Barbara, a reinstallation did the trick. It's working fine now.
> 
> Just didn't think of it.
> 
> The phone is working very well overall and I'm very pleased with it.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Evan
> 
> 
>> On 3/24/2023 9:51 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:
>> It's still working for me I just tried it and identified my computer 
>> keyboard on my desk and a phone sitting on the desk try clearing the app 
>> from the apps switcher and also restarting your phone if neither of those 
>> work try uninstalling and reinstalling the app
>> 
>>>> On Mar 24, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just a guess, but is screen curtain turned on? The app still works for me. 
>>> I used the app the otherday to identify logos on a couple of my shirts.
>>> 
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>>> I just installed TapTapSee onto my new iPhone 12. It worked pretty well 
>>>> on my iPad Mini 4.
>>>> 
>>>> After going through some disclaimers, I took a bunch of pictures in 
>>>> various locations in our house. All it says every time is "black and white 
>>>> abstract illustration".
>>>> 
>>>> I went to Camera and looked at various controls.
>>>> 
>>>> I know the camera is working because it told me that it was seeing a book 
>>>> and a laptop, which are both in front of me. I didn't even ask it. It just 
>>>> seem to spontaneously start looking at stuff. I didn't tell it to take a 
>>>> picture.
>>>> 
>>>> But TapTapSee, when I took a picture in the same location still said 
>>>> "black and white abstract illustration".
>>>> 
>>>> Is this app still working for anyone else? If so, can anyone suggest 
>>>> something else I can do that might get it to work?
>>>> 
>>>> I just checked with Seeing AI's Scene recognition and it said "probably a 
>>>> laptop on a desk", which is exactly correct. So the camera is definitely 
>>>> working.
>>>> 
>>>> I like TapTapSee, but clearly there are alternatives. I can just drop it 
>>>> if it isn't functioning anymore. But I would still like to keep it if I 
>>>> can get it to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for any ideas.
>>>> 
>>>> Evan
>>>> 
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Re: Is TapTapSee Out of Commission?

2023-03-24 Thread Evan Reese

Thanks Barbara, a reinstallation did the trick. It's working fine now.

Just didn't think of it.

The phone is working very well overall and I'm very pleased with it.

Thanks again.

Evan


On 3/24/2023 9:51 AM, Barbara Stahl wrote:

It's still working for me I just tried it and identified my computer keyboard 
on my desk and a phone sitting on the desk try clearing the app from the apps 
switcher and also restarting your phone if neither of those work try 
uninstalling and reinstalling the app


On Mar 24, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:

Just a guess, but is screen curtain turned on? The app still works for me. I 
used the app the otherday to identify logos on a couple of my shirts.

Donna


I just installed TapTapSee onto my new iPhone 12. It worked pretty well on my 
iPad Mini 4.

After going through some disclaimers, I took a bunch of pictures in various locations in 
our house. All it says every time is "black and white abstract illustration".

I went to Camera and looked at various controls.

I know the camera is working because it told me that it was seeing a book and a 
laptop, which are both in front of me. I didn't even ask it. It just seem to 
spontaneously start looking at stuff. I didn't tell it to take a picture.

But TapTapSee, when I took a picture in the same location still said "black and 
white abstract illustration".

Is this app still working for anyone else? If so, can anyone suggest something 
else I can do that might get it to work?

I just checked with Seeing AI's Scene recognition and it said "probably a laptop on 
a desk", which is exactly correct. So the camera is definitely working.

I like TapTapSee, but clearly there are alternatives. I can just drop it if it 
isn't functioning anymore. But I would still like to keep it if I can get it to 
work.

Thanks for any ideas.

Evan


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Re: Is TapTapSee Out of Commission?

2023-03-24 Thread Barbara Stahl
It's still working for me I just tried it and identified my computer keyboard 
on my desk and a phone sitting on the desk try clearing the app from the apps 
switcher and also restarting your phone if neither of those work try 
uninstalling and reinstalling the app

> On Mar 24, 2023, at 12:24 AM, Donna Casteen  wrote:
> 
> Just a guess, but is screen curtain turned on? The app still works for me. I 
> used the app the otherday to identify logos on a couple of my shirts.
> 
> Donna
> 
>> 
>> I just installed TapTapSee onto my new iPhone 12. It worked pretty well on 
>> my iPad Mini 4.
>> 
>> After going through some disclaimers, I took a bunch of pictures in various 
>> locations in our house. All it says every time is "black and white abstract 
>> illustration".
>> 
>> I went to Camera and looked at various controls.
>> 
>> I know the camera is working because it told me that it was seeing a book 
>> and a laptop, which are both in front of me. I didn't even ask it. It just 
>> seem to spontaneously start looking at stuff. I didn't tell it to take a 
>> picture.
>> 
>> But TapTapSee, when I took a picture in the same location still said "black 
>> and white abstract illustration".
>> 
>> Is this app still working for anyone else? If so, can anyone suggest 
>> something else I can do that might get it to work?
>> 
>> I just checked with Seeing AI's Scene recognition and it said "probably a 
>> laptop on a desk", which is exactly correct. So the camera is definitely 
>> working.
>> 
>> I like TapTapSee, but clearly there are alternatives. I can just drop it if 
>> it isn't functioning anymore. But I would still like to keep it if I can get 
>> it to work.
>> 
>> Thanks for any ideas.
>> 
>> Evan
>> 
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Re: Is TapTapSee Out of Commission?

2023-03-23 Thread Donna Casteen
Just a guess, but is screen curtain turned on? The app still works for me. I 
used the app the otherday to identify logos on a couple of my shirts.

Donna

> 
> I just installed TapTapSee onto my new iPhone 12. It worked pretty well on 
> my iPad Mini 4.
> 
> After going through some disclaimers, I took a bunch of pictures in various 
> locations in our house. All it says every time is "black and white abstract 
> illustration".
> 
> I went to Camera and looked at various controls.
> 
> I know the camera is working because it told me that it was seeing a book and 
> a laptop, which are both in front of me. I didn't even ask it. It just seem 
> to spontaneously start looking at stuff. I didn't tell it to take a picture.
> 
> But TapTapSee, when I took a picture in the same location still said "black 
> and white abstract illustration".
> 
> Is this app still working for anyone else? If so, can anyone suggest 
> something else I can do that might get it to work?
> 
> I just checked with Seeing AI's Scene recognition and it said "probably a 
> laptop on a desk", which is exactly correct. So the camera is definitely 
> working.
> 
> I like TapTapSee, but clearly there are alternatives. I can just drop it if 
> it isn't functioning anymore. But I would still like to keep it if I can get 
> it to work.
> 
> Thanks for any ideas.
> 
> Evan
> 
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Is TapTapSee Out of Commission?

2023-03-23 Thread Evan Reese
I just installed TapTapSee onto my new iPhone 12. It worked pretty well 
on my iPad Mini 4.


After going through some disclaimers, I took a bunch of pictures in 
various locations in our house. All it says every time is "black and 
white abstract illustration".


I went to Camera and looked at various controls.

I know the camera is working because it told me that it was seeing a 
book and a laptop, which are both in front of me. I didn't even ask it. 
It just seem to spontaneously start looking at stuff. I didn't tell it 
to take a picture.


But TapTapSee, when I took a picture in the same location still said 
"black and white abstract illustration".


Is this app still working for anyone else? If so, can anyone suggest 
something else I can do that might get it to work?


I just checked with Seeing AI's Scene recognition and it said "probably 
a laptop on a desk", which is exactly correct. So the camera is 
definitely working.


I like TapTapSee, but clearly there are alternatives. I can just drop it 
if it isn't functioning anymore. But I would still like to keep it if I 
can get it to work.


Thanks for any ideas.

Evan


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Re: TapTapSee

2019-11-02 Thread Richard
Yes, it means that the camera was too close to the object.

HTH,
Rick
- Original Message - 
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Subject: RE: TapTapSee


When after taking a picture with TapTapSee, by tapping the camera, the 
prompt says: "Picture Closed" without anything else, does that mean that the 
camera did not get a good picture?

Thanks.

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RE: TapTapSee

2019-11-02 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
When after taking a picture with TapTapSee, by tapping the camera, the prompt 
says: "Picture Closed" without anything else, does that mean that the camera 
did not get a good picture?

Thanks. 

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Re: TapTapSee

2019-11-02 Thread Richard Turner
No, the screen brightness has nothing to do with the back camera.
No color identifier on a smart phone is going to be accurate, because there are 
too many factors that determine the appearance of color.
My wife is a quilter.
The light alone can change the appearance of fabric.
The amount of light will change it.
If you could guarantee the same light source, and exact same distance from the 
object, and had someone sighted there to explain what the real color was 
compared to what the amp says; you might be able to get closer as you learn 
what it says consistently.
So, if you need fairly reliable color identification, buy the Rainbow II color 
identifier.
It is a device that you push against the object, push a button and it tells you 
the color.
It has about 40 names, so it gets pretty close, at least in the same color 
range as what the object is.




Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it."
-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner


On Nov 2, 2019, at 4:49 AM, John J. Fioravanti, Jr.  wrote:


Good morning: Normally in "Display in Brightness" under 
settings, I keep my screen settings as follows: dark is selected; I keep screen 
brightness at 0. If using TapTapSee, should I change these settings? My sighted 
friends tell me that TapTapSee is not recognizing colors accurately. Will 
changing my brightness help that recognition?
Thank you.

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TapTapSee

2019-11-02 Thread John J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Good morning: Normally in "Display in Brightness" under 
settings, I keep my screen settings as follows: dark is selected; I keep screen 
brightness at 0. If using TapTapSee, should I change these settings? My sighted 
friends tell me that TapTapSee is not recognizing colors accurately. Will 
changing my brightness help that recognition?

Thank you.  

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Re: TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

2019-06-01 Thread Dave Jones
Thank you very much for posting that article. I tried loading the same info
on yet another device and got the same error. I hope they fix the issue.

On Sat, Jun 1, 2019 at 7:36 PM 'Marcio' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> Am I the only one that's receiving an error message while trying to access
> the Blind Bargains articles and other content stating that ads failed to
> load?
>
> No, you aren't the only one. Apparently, many people seem to be facing
> this problem. I'm not sure why that is, though.
>
> Well, I'll paste the article below for you if that helps :)
>
> A new image recognition service from the Makers of TapTapSee may be coming
> to your smartphone soon, but this one is a bit different.
> The new @CloudSightAPI seeks to take on-device image recognition to the
> next level, giving detailed descriptions within a quarter of a second.
> Image descriptions are promised to be more vivid and detailed than other
> products, with no cloud processing required.
> Here are a few examples given on their website:
>
>1. lot of multi-colored rotary phones
>2. round black Michael Kors chronograph watch with brown leather strap
>3. 3x3 Rubik's cube
>*pair of men's black leather derby shoes
>
> Much of this is made possible by the billions of images processed by
> TapTapSee and CamFind, cloud-based image description tools which have been
> learning about objects and their surroundings for the past several years.
> Indeed, a test of TapTapSee yields more detailed descriptions than in years
> past, including "Black Lenovo Thinkpad on desk" and "Krups coffee maker
> under white cupboard".
> For now, the free apps for iOS and Android continue to use the cloud-based
> approach, though it is now theoretically possible for someone to create an
> app using the new on-device technology. Pricing for the new API was not
> immediately available.
> Aside from uses for the blind and visually impaired, object recognition
> can be used for everything from moderation of images to automatic alt text
> for product pages.
> To learn more, you can visit the CloudSight website
> <https://cloudsight.ai/>.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM> AKA *Starboy*
>
> Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Re: TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

2019-06-01 Thread 'Marcio' via VIPhone

Dave,
Am I the only one that's receiving an error message while trying to 
access the Blind Bargains articles and other content stating that ads 
failed to load?
No, you aren't the only one. Apparently, many people seem to be facing 
this problem. I'm not sure why that is, though.


Well, I'll paste the article below for you if that helps :)

A new image recognition service from the Makers of TapTapSee may be 
coming to your smartphone soon, but this one is a bit different.
The new @CloudSightAPI seeks to take on-device image recognition to the 
next level, giving detailed descriptions within a quarter of a second. 
Image descriptions are promised to be more vivid and detailed than other 
products, with no cloud processing required.

Here are a few examples given on their website:

1. lot of multi-colored rotary phones
2. round black Michael Kors chronograph watch with brown leather strap
3. 3x3 Rubik's cube
   *pair of men's black leather derby shoes

Much of this is made possible by the billions of images processed by 
TapTapSee and CamFind, cloud-based image description tools which have 
been learning about objects and their surroundings for the past several 
years. Indeed, a test of TapTapSee yields more detailed descriptions 
than in years past, including "Black Lenovo Thinkpad on desk" and "Krups 
coffee maker under white cupboard".
For now, the free apps for iOS and Android continue to use the 
cloud-based approach, though it is now theoretically possible for 
someone to create an app using the new on-device technology. Pricing for 
the new API was not immediately available.
Aside from uses for the blind and visually impaired, object recognition 
can be used for everything from moderation of images to automatic alt 
text for product pages.
To learn more, you can visit the CloudSight website 
<https://cloudsight.ai/>.


Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


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RE: TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

2019-06-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
The link works for me.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dave 
Jones
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2019 7:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image 
Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

 Am I the only one that’s receiving an error message while trying to access the 
Blind Bargains articles and other content stating that ads failed to load? I’ve 
tried this on multiple devices from multiple locations with the same result. 
Ads don’t load so articles and other content won’t load. I’m not using an ad 
blocker.



On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:06 PM 'Marcio' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
A new image recognition service from the Makers of TapTapSee may be coming to 
your smartphone soon, but this one is a bit different.
The new @CloudSightAPI seeks to take on-device image recognition to the next 
level, giving detailed descriptions within a quarter of a second. Image 
descriptions are promised to be more vivid and detailed than other products, 
with no cloud processing required.
Here are a few examples given on their website:

  *   lot of multi-colored rotary phones
  *   round black Michael Kors chronograph watch with brown leather strap
  *   3x3 Rubik's cube
*pair of men's black leather derby shoes
Much of this is made possible by the billions of images processed by TapTapSee 
and CamFind, cloud-based image description tools which have been learning about 
objects and their surroundings for the past several years. Indeed, a test of 
TapTapSee yields more detailed descriptions than in years past, including 
"Black Lenovo Thinkpad on desk" and "Krups coffee maker under white cupboard".
For now, the free apps for iOS and Android continue to use the cloud-based 
approach, though it is now theoretically possible for someone to create an app 
using the new on-device technology. Pricing for the new API was not immediately 
available.
Aside from uses for the blind and visually impaired, object recognition can be 
used for everything from moderation of images to automatic alt text for product 
pages.
To learn more, you can visit the CloudSight website<https://cloudsight.ai/>.
Source: Blind Bargains<https://www.blindbargains.com/>

Cheers,
Marcio<https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA Starboy


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Re: TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

2019-06-01 Thread Dave Jones
 Am I the only one that’s receiving an error message while trying to access
the Blind Bargains articles and other content stating that ads failed to
load? I’ve tried this on multiple devices from multiple locations with the
same result. Ads don’t load so articles and other content won’t load. I’m
not using an ad blocker.



On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 2:06 PM 'Marcio' via VIPhone <
viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> A new image recognition service from the Makers of TapTapSee may be coming
> to your smartphone soon, but this one is a bit different.
> The new @CloudSightAPI seeks to take on-device image recognition to the
> next level, giving detailed descriptions within a quarter of a second.
> Image descriptions are promised to be more vivid and detailed than other
> products, with no cloud processing required.
> Here are a few examples given on their website:
>
>- lot of multi-colored rotary phones
>- round black Michael Kors chronograph watch with brown leather strap
>- 3x3 Rubik's cube
>*pair of men's black leather derby shoes
>
> Much of this is made possible by the billions of images processed by
> TapTapSee and CamFind, cloud-based image description tools which have been
> learning about objects and their surroundings for the past several years.
> Indeed, a test of TapTapSee yields more detailed descriptions than in years
> past, including "Black Lenovo Thinkpad on desk" and "Krups coffee maker
> under white cupboard".
> For now, the free apps for iOS and Android continue to use the cloud-based
> approach, though it is now theoretically possible for someone to create an
> app using the new on-device technology. Pricing for the new API was not
> immediately available.
> Aside from uses for the blind and visually impaired, object recognition
> can be used for everything from moderation of images to automatic alt text
> for product pages.
> To learn more, you can visit the CloudSight website
> <https://cloudsight.ai/>.
> Source: Blind Bargains <https://www.blindbargains.com/>
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM> AKA *Starboy*
>
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TapTapSee Creators Announce Next Generation of On-device Image Recognition; Detailed Descriptions in a Quarter

2019-05-30 Thread 'Marcio' via VIPhone
A new image recognition service from the Makers of TapTapSee may be 
coming to your smartphone soon, but this one is a bit different.
The new @CloudSightAPI seeks to take on-device image recognition to the 
next level, giving detailed descriptions within a quarter of a second. 
Image descriptions are promised to be more vivid and detailed than other 
products, with no cloud processing required.

Here are a few examples given on their website:

 * lot of multi-colored rotary phones
 * round black Michael Kors chronograph watch with brown leather strap
 * 3x3 Rubik's cube
   *pair of men's black leather derby shoes

Much of this is made possible by the billions of images processed by 
TapTapSee and CamFind, cloud-based image description tools which have 
been learning about objects and their surroundings for the past several 
years. Indeed, a test of TapTapSee yields more detailed descriptions 
than in years past, including "Black Lenovo Thinkpad on desk" and "Krups 
coffee maker under white cupboard".
For now, the free apps for iOS and Android continue to use the 
cloud-based approach, though it is now theoretically possible for 
someone to create an app using the new on-device technology. Pricing for 
the new API was not immediately available.
Aside from uses for the blind and visually impaired, object recognition 
can be used for everything from moderation of images to automatic alt 
text for product pages.
To learn more, you can visit the CloudSight website 
<https://cloudsight.ai/>.

Source: Blind Bargains <https://www.blindbargains.com/>

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Rajmund
Hello,
If you take the picture with the app, you can't. You have to use the camera  
for that.



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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:19 pm
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

>
>
> So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
> Julie
> Live  simply,
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
> Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> 
> > Hello,
> > It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from a Braille Sense
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Julie Dawson  <julie.magno...@att.net>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
> > Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
> >> Julie
> >> Live  simply,
> >>   Love generously,
> >>   Care  deeply,
> >>   Speak  kindly
> >>   And  leave the rest to God!
> >>  Please join me on
> >> www.gamesgaloreandmore.com
> >> where through learning, friendship, activities, and growth, together we 
> >> can build a site to be proud of.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: Richard Turner
> >> To: ViPone list
> >> Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
> >> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> >>
> >>
> >> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> >> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
> >> that TapTapSee did not.
> >> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
> >> subtle differences are nice to know.
> >> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> >> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> >> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> >> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
> >> basket with a black and white box by it.
> >> The box was a small bar of soap.
> >> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> >> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> >>
> >> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
> >> student on his own.
> >> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
> >> TapTapSee, then CamFind.
> >> But, to each to his/her own.
> >> Richard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Evan Reese
The way to keep a picture is to take it with the regular camera app and then 
use Identifi to describe it, rather than taking the picture from within the 
app itself.

Evan

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From: Julie Dawson

Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
Julie
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 Love generously,
 Care  deeply,
 Speak  kindly
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee



Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



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From: Julie Dawson  <julie.magno...@att.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee




How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner

To: ViPone list
Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
Richard





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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Julie Dawson

So what if you want to keep a picture you took in reverse then? Thank you.
Julie
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To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: December 01, 2016 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee



Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



Sent from a Braille Sense

- Original Message -
From: Julie Dawson  <julie.magno...@att.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee




How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
  And  leave the rest to God!
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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Turner

To: ViPone list
Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
Richard





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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Julie Dawson
How do you delete the pictures you do not want?
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  From: Sharonda Greenlaw 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: November 30, 2016 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  Please remember that Identifi was also created to help us read those pictures 
with texts on Facebook. And that works pretty well. A number of people have 
tried it and reported this. 

  Sharonda
  Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

  On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Julie Dawson <julie.magno...@att.net> wrote:


How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
Julie
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  Love generously,
  Care  deeply,
  Speak  kindly
  And  leave the rest to God! 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: ViPone list 
  Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
  Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard





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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Richard
Hi Evan,
Like you, Iam not having the greatest experience with this app.
Comparing it to other apps I use, this one has plenty of room for 
improvement.

Rick
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From: "Evan Reese" <ment...@dslextreme.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
you.
Evan

From: Pablo Cesar Morales
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case 
this app works faster than taptap see.

Great!





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Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
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i will have to try identity



On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details 
that TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap.
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student 
on his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard



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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Lelia Struve
Evan, when you figure out what you're doing wrong will you let me know? Because 
I'm in the same boat as you. And it seems like you said that the majority of 
the crowd is impressed. So it must be us. Not them. LOL

Lelia 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> 
> Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
> results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
> you.
> Evan
>  
> From: Pablo Cesar Morales
> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
>  
> I only can say; WOW!
> Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case 
> this app works faster than taptap see.
> Great!
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> jazzyjennifer
> Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
>  
> i will have to try identity
> 
>  
> On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
> 
>  
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Evan Reese
Clearly I am going to have to figure out why I’m having trouble getting good 
results with this app. It seems to be working great for the vast majority of 
you.
Evan

From: Pablo Cesar Morales 
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2016 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case this 
app works faster than taptap see.

Great!

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

 

i will have to try identity

 

On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
  Richard

   

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RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Pablo Cesar Morales
I only can say; WOW!

Really this app is great, the level of details is amazing, and in my case this 
app works faster than taptap see.

Great!

 

 

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jazzyjennifer
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:50 AM
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i will have to try identity

 

On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap. 
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard

 

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread jazzyjennifer

i will have to try identity


On 11/30/2016 10:02 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little 
details that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the 
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash 
cloths, shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.

TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear 
basket with a black and white box by it.

The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school 
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try 
TapTapSee, then CamFind.

But, to each to his/her own.
Richard



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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Rajmund
Hello,
It doesn't keep them by default, so no need to delete.



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Date: Thursday, December 1, 2016 5:19 am
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

>
>
> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
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> - Original Message - 
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> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> 
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread rajmund

hi, the fact that it can scan text for free, is worth more than anything.

Sent from Thunderbird

On 01/12/2016 03:02 AM, Richard Turner wrote:

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details
that TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the
subtle differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths,
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear
basket with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school
student on his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try
TapTapSee, then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard



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RE: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-12-01 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi,

I just had time to download and try iDentifi a bit and I’m also impressed by 
how well it works.
At first I tried it with about 4 or 5 pictures from my camera roll. I knew 
roughly what they were, one was a picture of a shotgun held by one of my staff 
which was identified as “Man holding black and brown hunting rifle”, the second 
was my yellow lab playing in a small pond which iDentifi described as “yellow 
lab puppy in water”, Tap Tap See said “Golden Retriever in mud”.
Then I had some pictures when my wife and I were at a dog park in Calgary. 
iDentify described one as “Women in pink shirt looking at women in black shirt 
and black pants beside dog in park”. Tap Tap See said “white short coated dog, 
man and woman on green field during daytime”.
While iDentifi didn’t describe the dog, it was correct in describing the two 
people.

Next I took a picture of a 4 Litre box of red wine and here I took the exact 
same picture without moving my position with iDentifi and Tap Tap See. The wine 
was identified correctly and exactly the same and pretty much in the same about 
12 seconds as “Sawmill Creek Cabernet Sauvignon in box”.
Then I had a plastic bag with dried candied mango pieces and again both apps 
identified it the same as “H Thai honey mango” or something like that, the 
wording was identical and the time again 10 or 12 seconds for both.
Lastly I simply took a picture from maybe 3 feet away into the corner of my 
kitchen counter where I have a Victorinox knife block and to the left were two 
bottles. Tap Tap See said “Kitchen tool and Shilva bottle on marble table”. Not 
too correct, first of all I have no idea what a “Shilva” bottle is and secondly 
kitchen tools is pretty general, I forgive the marbele table even though it is 
a counter and it is not marble.
iDentifi described it a bit more accurately I thought, I got “Two bottles 
beside a knife block set”.

Overall I took one picture with iDentifi where I didn’t get a reply even after 
one minute. I think maybe these long waits are glitches. All other pictures 
came back in about 10 to 12 seconds, one took about 18 or 20 seconds. The photo 
descriptions from the pictures in my camera roll were just as fast if not 
faster.

Tap Tap See seems to also do quite well with pictures from the camera roll and 
it seems with respect to product descriptions both do well and for me the time 
it took was about the same for both.
But I think iDentifi as a first release and free app is definitely worth 
keeping around in my collection of identification apps. Well done, Anmol.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sharonda Greenlaw
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

Please remember that Identifi was also created to help us read those pictures 
with texts on Facebook. And that works pretty well. A number of people have 
tried it and reported this.

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes

On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Julie Dawson 
<julie.magno...@att.net<mailto:julie.magno...@att.net>> wrote:
How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
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Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard

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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-11-30 Thread Ketan Kothari
Hi,

I am simply impressed by identify.  It could read Hindi text of course
not the whole thing but all the same.  The only worry I have is that
this may not be updated as it was created out of a hobby.  Let us see.

Ketan

On 12/1/16, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths,
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap.
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
>
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student
> on his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try
> TapTapSee, then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
>
>
>
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-11-30 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
Please remember that Identifi was also created to help us read those pictures 
with texts on Facebook. And that works pretty well. A number of people have 
tried it and reported this. 

Sharonda
Sent from my mobile device; please excuse any mistakes 

> On Dec 1, 2016, at 1:19 AM, Julie Dawson <julie.magno...@att.net> wrote:
> 
> How do you delete pictures you do not want to keep?  Thank you.
> Julie
> Live  simply,
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> build a site to be proud of. 
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: ViPone list
> Sent: November 30, 2016 6:02 PM
> Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee
> 
> I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
> While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
> TapTapSee did not.
> It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
> differences are nice to know.
> One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
> shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
> TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
> iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
> with a black and white box by it.
> The box was a small bar of soap. 
> Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
> I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.
> 
> I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
> his own.
> So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
> then CamFind.
> But, to each to his/her own.
> Richard
> 
> 
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-11-30 Thread Julie Dawson
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  Subject: iDentifi VS TapTapSee


  I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
  While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
  It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
  One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
  TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
  iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
  The box was a small bar of soap. 
  Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
  I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

  I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
  So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
  But, to each to his/her own.
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Re: iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-11-30 Thread Feliciano Godoy
They are both great. I prefer TapTapSee's user interface more. They are both 
good to have for sure.

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I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
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iDentifi VS TapTapSee

2016-11-30 Thread Richard Turner
I just did several tests to compare TapTapSee with iDentifi.
While the results were similar, iDentifi more often gave little details that 
TapTapSee did not.
It would not make or break using one or the other, but sometimes the subtle 
differences are nice to know.
One example, while I am here in a hotel room, they have the wash cloths, 
shampoo, etc, on a tray on a sink.
TapTapSee gave a general description of bottles and towels ...
iDentifi said it was shower products with white towels on in a clear basket 
with a black and white box by it.
The box was a small bar of soap.
Both apps, for me on my 5s took about the same length of time.
I have iDentifi set to high accuracy.

I am seriously impressed with iDentifi being done by a high school student on 
his own.
So, I will be using it first and if it doesn't work well, I'll try TapTapSee, 
then CamFind.
But, to each to his/her own.
Richard



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RE: TapTapSee

2016-02-20 Thread Lelia
I use both apps for different reasons, meaning that when I want something 
fairly quickly I use taptapsee 

Lelia

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Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:56 AM
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Subject: RE: TapTapSee

With be my eyes, you connect to a real person somewhere and he/she tells  you 
what your camera is seeing.


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Michael Malver
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Subject: Re: TapTapSee

They are such different services. I love tap tap see, because I can take 
pictures and post them to Facebook, much as my cited counterparts do. Be my 
eyes doesn't have that sort of functionality, and should not, because it is a 
product recognition software.
OK, technically it is not product recognition, but it is designed for you to 
ask questions about things, rather than to simply know what a picture is that 
you have just taken.

Michael

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that the appearance of services like Be My Eyes, and Crowd 
> Viz have dealt a blow to TapTapSee, because If I were to pay for a service, i 
> would rather use one of the latter, where you don't have to worry about 
> taking pictures.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
> 
> I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
>> 
>> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? 
>>> I don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been 
>>> a while since I've downloaded it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest 
>>>> update to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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RE: TapTapSee

2016-02-20 Thread Larry Lumpkin
With be my eyes, you connect to a real person somewhere and he/she tells  you 
what your camera is seeing.


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Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2016 5:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

They are such different services. I love tap tap see, because I can take 
pictures and post them to Facebook, much as my cited counterparts do. Be my 
eyes doesn't have that sort of functionality, and should not, because it is a 
product recognition software.
OK, technically it is not product recognition, but it is designed for you to 
ask questions about things, rather than to simply know what a picture is that 
you have just taken.

Michael

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that the appearance of services like Be My Eyes, and Crowd 
> Viz have dealt a blow to TapTapSee, because If I were to pay for a service, i 
> would rather use one of the latter, where you don't have to worry about 
> taking pictures.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
> 
> I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
>> 
>> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? 
>>> I don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been 
>>> a while since I've downloaded it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest 
>>>> update to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-20 Thread Michael Malver
They are such different services. I love tap tap see, because I can take 
pictures and post them to Facebook, much as my cited counterparts do. Be my 
eyes doesn't have that sort of functionality, and should not, because it is a 
product recognition software.
OK, technically it is not product recognition, but it is designed for you to 
ask questions about things, rather than to simply know what a picture is that 
you have just taken.

Michael

> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Andy Baracco <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I would imagine that the appearance of services like Be My Eyes, and Crowd 
> Viz have dealt a blow to TapTapSee, because If I were to pay for a service, i 
> would rather use one of the latter, where you don't have to worry about 
> taking pictures.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 3:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
> 
> I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Sarai Bucciarelli
>> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
>> 
>> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>>> while since I've downloaded it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Malcolm
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Andy Baracco
I think that they either got a grant, or this is a last ditch effort to be 
relevant now that easier and more reliable alternatives are available.

Andy

From: Devin Prater 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com ; viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: TapTapSee
Why would you think the app would disappear. The developers know good and well 
what they're doing when they make the app free again.


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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 3:52 PM -0800, "Sarai Bucciarelli" 
<sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:


I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant  wrote:
> 
> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app. 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Sarai Bucciarelli
> Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
> 
> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
>> 
>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>> while since I've downloaded it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A big thank you I think!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Malcolm
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Andy Baracco
I would imagine that the appearance of services like Be My Eyes, and Crowd 
Viz have dealt a blow to TapTapSee, because If I were to pay for a service, 
i would rather use one of the latter, where you don't have to worry about 
taking pictures.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sarai Bucciarelli

Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 3:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were 
reasionable.

On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:

Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app.



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Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
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Subject: Re: TapTapSee

I just bought a picture pack a month ago.

On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:

Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
while since I've downloaded it.


On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
List members may be interested to know that according to the latest 
update

to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.



A big thank you I think!



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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Devin Prater
Oh gosh I hope not. Just look at what Fleksy has become.

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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:18 PM -0800, "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> wrote:










They probably got a grant like what happened to Fleksy.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

As I understand it, it's real people telling you what is seen in the picture 
you send when you take that picture.  I think it's important to remember 
that everybody and their sister was taking picture after picture just 
playing with the app rather then really needing to.  I include myself in 
that because tap tap see was the first app I had ever come across that could 
tell you what it sees.  Sense then, several other wanna-be apps came out but 
none was as good as Tap tap see so I guess we'll see how long it lasts so 
let's not go off the deep end again folks or the app might disappear.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Jewel  wrote:
>
> I have never had anything like this.  It is, absolutely, wonderful.
> I haven't been able to find the writing on a can yet, but I have been told 
> that it was a green can
> with a black and white container near it standing on top of a table.
> The detail that it gives is fantastic:  like:  a medium-sized dog with 
> short black coat, sleeping on
> the floor near an open door.
> I took the thphone outside and aimed the camera at where I thought that it 
> should show a line of
> laundry, but what it saw was a  blue cloth on green grass, and, sure 
> enough, when I checked, there
> was, indeed a blue cloth:  a bed sheet which had blown off the line and 
> was on green grass;  not all
> the washing had blown off the line, but to alert me to the fact that some 
> had was far more
> important.
>
> The developers are to be congratulated in designing such a wonderful 
> program.
> I have downloaded FindCam, but, to date, have not been able to get it 
> going, but that is due to my
> ineptitude with new technology, and has nothing to do with the 
> accessibility of the app.
>
>Jewel
>
> --
> From: "Lelia Struve" 
> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:10 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
>
> I just wrote the developers and they said that no, they were not going to 
> go away or cancel the app
> or anything like that which was what I was worried about. This is good 
> news.
>
> Lelia
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>>> while since I've downloaded it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest 
>>>> update
>>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Andy Baracco

They probably got a grant like what happened to Fleksy.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 7:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

As I understand it, it's real people telling you what is seen in the picture 
you send when you take that picture.  I think it's important to remember 
that everybody and their sister was taking picture after picture just 
playing with the app rather then really needing to.  I include myself in 
that because tap tap see was the first app I had ever come across that could 
tell you what it sees.  Sense then, several other wanna-be apps came out but 
none was as good as Tap tap see so I guess we'll see how long it lasts so 
let's not go off the deep end again folks or the app might disappear.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:

I have never had anything like this.  It is, absolutely, wonderful.
I haven't been able to find the writing on a can yet, but I have been told 
that it was a green can

with a black and white container near it standing on top of a table.
The detail that it gives is fantastic:  like:  a medium-sized dog with 
short black coat, sleeping on

the floor near an open door.
I took the thphone outside and aimed the camera at where I thought that it 
should show a line of
laundry, but what it saw was a  blue cloth on green grass, and, sure 
enough, when I checked, there
was, indeed a blue cloth:  a bed sheet which had blown off the line and 
was on green grass;  not all
the washing had blown off the line, but to alert me to the fact that some 
had was far more

important.

The developers are to be congratulated in designing such a wonderful 
program.
I have downloaded FindCam, but, to date, have not been able to get it 
going, but that is due to my
ineptitude with new technology, and has nothing to do with the 
accessibility of the app.


   Jewel

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Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:10 PM
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

I just wrote the developers and they said that no, they were not going to 
go away or cancel the app
or anything like that which was what I was worried about. This is good 
news.


Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli 
<sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:


I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
while since I've downloaded it.



On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
List members may be interested to know that according to the latest 
update

to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.



A big thank you I think!



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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Devin Prater
Why would you think the app would disappear. The developers know good and well 
what they're doing when they make the app free again.

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I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant  wrote:
> 
> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app. 
> 
> 
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> 
> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan  wrote:
>> 
>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>> while since I've downloaded it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A big thank you I think!
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I had no problems paying for the use of the app. The prices were reasionable.
> On Feb 19, 2016, at 5:12 PM, R VanLant <vanlant2...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app. 
> 
> 
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> 
> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>> while since I've downloaded it.
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
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RE: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread R VanLant
Me too.  At least I know I'm supporting a good app. 



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Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
> while since I've downloaded it.
> 
> 
> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-19 Thread Alan Paganelli
As I understand it, it's real people telling you what is seen in the picture 
you send when you take that picture.  I think it's important to remember that 
everybody and their sister was taking picture after picture just playing with 
the app rather then really needing to.  I include myself in that because tap 
tap see was the first app I had ever come across that could tell you what it 
sees.  Sense then, several other wanna-be apps came out but none was as good as 
Tap tap see so I guess we'll see how long it lasts so let's not go off the deep 
end again folks or the app might disappear.


Alan

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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 7:09 PM, Jewel <jewelbla...@kinect.co.nz> wrote:
> 
> I have never had anything like this.  It is, absolutely, wonderful.
> I haven't been able to find the writing on a can yet, but I have been told 
> that it was a green can 
> with a black and white container near it standing on top of a table.
> The detail that it gives is fantastic:  like:  a medium-sized dog with short 
> black coat, sleeping on 
> the floor near an open door.
> I took the thphone outside and aimed the camera at where I thought that it 
> should show a line of 
> laundry, but what it saw was a  blue cloth on green grass, and, sure enough, 
> when I checked, there 
> was, indeed a blue cloth:  a bed sheet which had blown off the line and was 
> on green grass;  not all 
> the washing had blown off the line, but to alert me to the fact that some had 
> was far more 
> important.
> 
> The developers are to be congratulated in designing such a wonderful program.
> I have downloaded FindCam, but, to date, have not been able to get it going, 
> but that is due to my 
> ineptitude with new technology, and has nothing to do with the accessibility 
> of the app.
> 
>Jewel
> 
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> From: "Lelia Struve" <leliastr...@gmail.com>
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> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: TapTapSee
> 
> I just wrote the developers and they said that no, they were not going to go 
> away or cancel the app 
> or anything like that which was what I was worried about. This is good news.
> 
> Lelia
> 
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> 
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>>> while since I've downloaded it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Jewel
I have never had anything like this.  It is, absolutely, wonderful.
I haven't been able to find the writing on a can yet, but I have been told that 
it was a green can 
with a black and white container near it standing on top of a table.
The detail that it gives is fantastic:  like:  a medium-sized dog with short 
black coat, sleeping on 
the floor near an open door.
I took the thphone outside and aimed the camera at where I thought that it 
should show a line of 
laundry, but what it saw was a  blue cloth on green grass, and, sure enough, 
when I checked, there 
was, indeed a blue cloth:  a bed sheet which had blown off the line and was on 
green grass;  not all 
the washing had blown off the line, but to alert me to the fact that some had 
was far more 
important.

The developers are to be congratulated in designing such a wonderful program.
I have downloaded FindCam, but, to date, have not been able to get it going, 
but that is due to my 
ineptitude with new technology, and has nothing to do with the accessibility of 
the app.

Jewel

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Subject: Re: TapTapSee

I just wrote the developers and they said that no, they were not going to go 
away or cancel the app 
or anything like that which was what I was worried about. This is good news.

Lelia

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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
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> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>> while since I've downloaded it.
>>
>>
>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A big thank you I think!
>>>
>>>
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RE: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Does this mean that you no longer have to by picture packs?

 

 

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Monica Jones
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Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Oh, this is great! I love Tap Tap See.

 

 

From: Malcolm Parfitt <mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk>  

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Subject: TapTapSee

 

List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update to 
TapTapSee it is now free to all users.

 

A big thank you I think!

 

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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Monica Jones
Oh, this is great! I love Tap Tap See.


From: Malcolm Parfitt 
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: TapTapSee

List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update to 
TapTapSee it is now free to all users.

 

A big thank you I think!

 

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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Lelia Struve
I just wrote the developers and they said that no, they were not going to go 
away or cancel the app or anything like that which was what I was worried 
about. This is good news.

Lelia 

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> On Feb 18, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli <sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> 
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> I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
>> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
>> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
>> while since I've downloaded it.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
I just bought a picture pack a month ago.
> On Feb 18, 2016, at 10:25 AM, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
> while since I've downloaded it.
> 
> 
> On 2/18/16, Malcolm Parfitt <malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> wrote:
>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>> 
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>> A big thank you I think!
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
That is my understanding free to use.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 18 Feb 2016, at 16:25, Shermeen Khan <shermee...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
> don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
> while since I've downloaded it.
> 
> 
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>> List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
>> to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.
>> 
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>> A big thank you I think!
>> 
>> 
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Re: TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Shermeen Khan
Do they mean that you don't have to purchase picture packs anymore? I
don't remember the app itself costing anything, although it's been a
while since I've downloaded it.


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TapTapSee

2016-02-18 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
List members may be interested to know that according to the latest update
to TapTapSee it is now free to all users.

 

A big thank you I think!

 

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Programs similar to TapTapSee

2015-10-08 Thread Demir Ajvazi
Hi to all
Is there more programs such as Taptapsee? I know for VizWiz, but I am
not that satisfied with that program, because it's abit slow with
recognition, and often quite unclear. If there is some more programs
in that category, please notify me:). I would prefer if there are
free, but payed are welcome too:).
Thanks in advance
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Re: Programs similar to TapTapSee

2015-10-08 Thread Tom Lange
Hi. There is a program called Camfind  which is made by the same people who 
developed Tap Tap See. When I was using Tap Tap See and started getting charged 
for pictures, I switched to Camfind, and, for my purposes, the results are just 
as good.  Hope this helps.
Best regards,Tom


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TapTapSee working.

2015-04-14 Thread Malcolm Parfitt
An update to TapTapSee is available and works with 8.3.

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Re: TapTapSee Also Broken in 8.3 was Facebook app

2015-04-11 Thread Steve
Yeah, a bit annoying.

But, worst is that it appears to have broken TapTapSee and CamFind.  It may 
have broken BeMyEyes also with the message unable to send image.

I tried uninstalling and re-installing Tap Tap See, but still no-go.


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Subject: Facebook app now saying product in every story title


I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
through my Facebook feed, every title of an article has the word product in it. 
Is anybody else noticing this? It's kind of annoying. So I hope it can be fixed.
Mary


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Re: TapTapSee Also Broken in 8.3 was Facebook app

2015-04-11 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Yep, definitely have same issues. Ugg.
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, a bit annoying.
  
 But, worst is that it appears to have broken TapTapSee and CamFind.  It may 
 have broken BeMyEyes also with the message unable to send image.
  
 I tried uninstalling and re-installing Tap Tap See, but still no-go.
  
  
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 I think this may have started after I upgraded to I OS 8.3. Now, when I go 
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 fixed.
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Re: TapTapSee

2015-02-12 Thread Sandratomkins
just a suggestion: for those who find tap tap See to be a useful app, do try 
be my eyes.it is free and doesn't depend upon your ability to take adequate 
photographs.

just a thought,
Sandy

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 I had that problem yesterday morning but then last night it was fine. Maybe 
 their server was having issues?
 
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 Anyone having problems using TapTapSee?  I upgraded to the IPhone 6 and each 
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Re: TapTapSee

2015-02-12 Thread Alex Hall
Sounds like you didn't give it access to the camera. Go to Settings then 
Privacy, then Camera. In the list of apps that appears, find TapTapSee and, if 
it's off, double tap to turn it on.
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Re: TapTapSee

2015-02-12 Thread Marianne Denning
I would agree with this, but, be aware, when the start up money runs
out you will probably have to pay for this service too.  I don't have
a problem with companies charging for these apps but it can be a
financial burden on some of us.

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 just a suggestion: for those who find tap tap See to be a useful app, do try
 be my eyes.it is free and doesn't depend upon your ability to take
 adequate photographs.

 just a thought,
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 I had that problem yesterday morning but then last night it was fine.
 Maybe their server was having issues?

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 each
 time I try and take a picture, I get back a message that says picture
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RE: TapTapSee

2015-02-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Make sure you check in Settings, Privacy, Microphone to make sure you allowed 
access to the camera for Tap Tap See.

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Subject: TapTapSee

Hi list:

Anyone having problems using TapTapSee?  I upgraded to the IPhone 6 and each 
time I try and take a picture, I get back a message that says picture 
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RE: TapTapSee

2015-02-11 Thread Debbie Downey
I had that problem yesterday morning but then last night it was fine. Maybe 
their server was having issues?

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Anyone having problems using TapTapSee?  I upgraded to the IPhone 6 and each 
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TapTapSee

2015-02-11 Thread DJ Reese
Hi list:

Anyone having problems using TapTapSee?  I upgraded to the IPhone 6 and each 
time I try and take a picture, I get back a message that says picture 
failed.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: taptapsee on multiple devices

2014-04-11 Thread Cheryl Homiak
Just thought I should warn everybody that I was unable to get taptapsee to work 
on multiple devices - even two - without finally buying another subscription 
for another device. I contacted the taptapsee contact shown in the about 
section and was told they are working on having this work. So it appears that 
at this point if you want to subscribe to taptapsee on more than one device you 
either won't be able to do this or will end up with more than one subscription.


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 On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Cheryl Homiak cah4...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 
 I got taptapsee and used my trial pictures on one device and then bought the 
 three-month unlimited package. I then used taptapsee on another of my devices 
 and was again given trial pictures. But when I was told I now had to buy 
 credits in order to continue using taptapsee, there didn't appear to be any 
 way to restore in-app purchases and it appeared that if I went through the 
 buying process I would be charged for another subscription. Maybe this 
 wouldn't have happened but I didn't want to have that happen and then have to 
 try to straighten things out. Is there a way to apply the purchase across 
 phones or would I not have been charged or do I have to buy separately for 
 each devvice on which I use taptapsee?
 
 
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Re: taptapsee on multiple devices

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Apple boy

Hi all
The rule is any purchases made through the app store on any device 
connected with the same Apple Id results in you only being charged once. 
In-app purchases are no exception.


Regards Chris

Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 09/04/2014 06:01, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

Hi all.


I got taptapsee and used my trial pictures on one device and then bought the 
three-month unlimited package. I then used taptapsee on another of my devices 
and was again given trial pictures. But when I was told I now had to buy 
credits in order to continue using taptapsee, there didn't appear to be any way 
to restore in-app purchases and it appeared that if I went through the buying 
process I would be charged for another subscription. Maybe this wouldn't have 
happened but I didn't want to have that happen and then have to try to 
straighten things out. Is there a way to apply the purchase across phones or 
would I not have been charged or do I have to buy separately for each devvice 
on which I use taptapsee?



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taptapsee on multiple devices

2014-04-08 Thread Cheryl Homiak
 Hi all.

I got taptapsee and used my trial pictures on one device and then bought the 
three-month unlimited package. I then used taptapsee on another of my devices 
and was again given trial pictures. But when I was told I now had to buy 
credits in order to continue using taptapsee, there didn't appear to be any way 
to restore in-app purchases and it appeared that if I went through the buying 
process I would be charged for another subscription. Maybe this wouldn't have 
happened but I didn't want to have that happen and then have to try to 
straighten things out. Is there a way to apply the purchase across phones or 
would I not have been charged or do I have to buy separately for each devvice 
on which I use taptapsee?


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Screenshots and taptapsee

2014-03-21 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
Hi folks,
Can you take screenshots of things like YouTube videos while watching them or 
album cover art while listening to music and then use taptapsee to describe 
them? I think I managed to do this once but not since then.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
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TapTapSee repurchasing issue.

2014-03-16 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi all.
I am trying to use TapTapSee, have purchased it, the unlimited package. But 
now, every time I go back into it it asks me to purchase again. I know this is 
been covered, and I apologize. What do I do?

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Re: TapTapSee repurchasing issue.

2014-03-16 Thread Marianne Denning
It is a 30 or 90 day unlimited package.  There isn't an unlimited
package forever.

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TapTapSee question

2014-03-11 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
Hi folks,
I just bought my first subscription for the app and I seem to remember that you 
have to save the pictures somehow. How do you do this?

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Re: TapTapSee question

2014-03-11 Thread Marianne Denning
You don't have to save the picture.  I have never saved a picture.  I
find out the information I need and go on.

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Re: TapTapSee question

2014-03-11 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
What if it's pictures I want like my friend's wedding?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2014, at 15:59, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to save the picture.  I have never saved a picture.  I
 find out the information I need and go on.
 
 On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 I just bought my first subscription for the app and I seem to remember that
 you have to save the pictures somehow. How do you do this?
 
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Re: TapTapSee question

2014-03-11 Thread Todd W
There is a Share option on the toolbar at the top of the app.  This will
let you save or share the most recent picture you've taken with TapTap See.

Todd


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hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 What if it's pictures I want like my friend's wedding?

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone

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 You don't have to save the picture.  I have never saved a picture.  I
 find out the information I need and go on.

 On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 I just bought my first subscription for the app and I seem to remember that

 you have to save the pictures somehow. How do you do this?


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Re: TapTapSee question

2014-03-11 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
Thanks.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 11, 2014, at 18:44, Todd W toddstechby...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There is a Share option on the toolbar at the top of the app.  This will 
 let you save or share the most recent picture you've taken with TapTap See.
 
 Todd
 
 
 On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
 hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 What if it's pictures I want like my friend's wedding?
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 15:59, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote:
 
 You don't have to save the picture.  I have never saved a picture.  I
 find out the information I need and go on.
 
 On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi folks,
 I just bought my first subscription for the app and I seem to remember that
 you have to save the pictures somehow. How do you do this?
 
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Re: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-06 Thread TapTapSee
Robert,

I completely understand. Again, I apologize for the initial response being 
so brief.

If you have any more questions or concerns please be sure to reach out to 
us.

Best Wishes,

On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 7:32:06 PM UTC-8, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

  
 I understand now.  I am happily using the program.  My frustration came 
 when the app disappeared while I was trying to move it to another page.
 
 If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
 start?

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* TapTapSee javascript: 
 *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:39 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

 Hello Doc and All, 

 I'd like to provide an explain for the response that was sent to Doc. 

 Apple has four classifications for in-app purchases. They are as followed: 
 consumable, non-consumable, non-renewing subscriptions, and auto-renewable 
 subscriptions. Two of those purchases are restorable if the app was 
 accidentally deleted or the device had to be restored without backup. The 
 in-app purchases that are restorable are: non-consumable and auto-renewable 
 subscriptions. This information comes directly from the Apple website (link 
 provided at the end of the message).

 In the case of TapTapSee, the credits for pictures are categorized as 
 consumable products. Therefore, they are not renewable. The monthly 
 subscriptions, are not auto-renewable. Therefore, they are also not 
 restorable. Now as mentioned, we are looking for a possible way around this 
 issue.

 One solution, as Michael noted, is to restore the purchases from your 
 backup. The backup would have to be made prior to deleting the app and/or 
 switching devices.

 Doc, I apologize for the email not going into details to explain the issue 
 that we're facing with restoring previous credits. However, I am glad that 
 we are able to address this issue in the open forum.

 Below I'd like to provide you with a direct quote of the information that 
 is available on Apple's page in regard to in-app purchases:

 If you lose your In-App Purchases because apps were accidentally deleted 
 or you had to restore your device without a backup, you may be able to 
 download some of your purchases again for free. See which types of In-App 
 Purchases you need to purchase again or can redownload for free in the 
 table:

 Purchase again: Consumable and non-renewing subscriptions. 

 Download for free: Non-consumable and auto-renewable subscriptions.

 To download an In-App Purchase again, you must download it from within the 
 installed app using the same iTunes Store account name you used for the 
 original In-App Purchase. 

 Link to the source: 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4009?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US

 I'd also like to mention that we've been in communication with Apple, and 
 are still seeking a possible solution. We'll continue to keep you informed 
 on the progress.

 If you have any further question, please feel free to contact us directly 
 at cont...@taptapseeapp.com.

 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee Team

 On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:53:30 AM UTC-8, Robert Doc Wright wrote: 

  below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.

  
 Hello Doc Wright, 

 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.

 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its 
 purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring 
 purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 

 Best Wishes,

  TapTapSee Team

 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee l Like on 
 Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp
  l Visit at TapTapSee http://TapTapSeeApp.com/


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wright...@gmail.com wrote:

 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to 
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app 
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased 
 the credits.

 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had 
 made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a 
 Nother 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godf...@wrighthere.net.
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TapTapSee Users Wanted

2014-02-06 Thread TapTapSee
Hello Everyone,

TapTapSee is currently looking for users in the following cities: 
Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Dallas, Miami, San Francisco, Los Angeles, 
Boston, and St. Louis. If you are a TapTapSee user in one of these cities, 
please contact us at contact[at]TapTapSeeApp[dot]com.

Thank you,
TapTapSee Team

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TapTapSee: Making A Wrong A Right

2014-02-06 Thread Eileens Misrahi
Hello Folks,

A while back when I had purchased another app with a similar problem that 
Robert has described, the developers handled the situation totally differently. 
The fact was that I needed to rstore the app, but there was no record that I 
had purchased it when attempting this from the phone. I needed to submit my 
receipt to the devs and once they confirm the purchas, they gifted me back the 
amount lost so I could repurchase it again. This I call good business 
practice. It would be nice if the devs of TapTapSee could do the same and make 
a wrong a right. There are so many of us that want to support those who create 
apps that include accessibility within their apps. JMO.

Cheers,
Eileen


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Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-05 Thread Robert Doc Wright
no they don't.  they say that it is the fault of the Apple store.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

- Original Message - 
From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us


A lot of apps have a 'restore purchases option. I'm not familiar with 
TapTapSee; does it have this option as well?

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Thanks for that info, this answers my questions that the credits 
 apparently
 do get backed up at least.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

 That's interesting. I just upgraded to an iPHONE5S and restored from an
 incripted backup I made just prior to getting my new phone. I still have 
 my
 69 credits which remain from the hundred I purchased. I didn't lose them.

 On 2/4/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Robert,



 I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model
 because I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they
 are doing is OK. However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by
 this reply as it appears they are basically telling you that your
 credits are gone and that's that.

 Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people
 to be protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and
 is getting a new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up
 and needed a reboot.
 I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.



 Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits
 just on their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I
 bet some would abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do
 so, they need to find a way to track how many credits each user has by
 associating credits with either the Apple ID or by syncing them to
 iCloud or by having people sign up for a Tap Tap See account where
 these credits could be bought. If the latter would be possible they
 might actually get around Apple and offer subscriptions at 30% less
 money because they don't have to pay Apple. The Microsoft Office for
 Office 365 subscribers app is one example where Microsoft tied their
 app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to have, Netflix is
 another example, Skype another, many Voip services also work that way.
 For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then when you
 sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled to
 whatever it is you are subscribing to.



 I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative
 press they received lately reply to the list with some positive news
 that maybe we can look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.





 Best regards,

 Sieghard



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us



 below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.




 Hello Doc Wright,



 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.



 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device,
 its purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not
 restoring purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions.



 Best Wishes,




 TapTapSee Team



 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee  l Like on Facebook
 https://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp  l Visit at TapTapSee
 http://TapTapSeeApp.com/



 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com
 mailto:wrightsiph...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have
 purchased the credits.

 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had
 made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again
 for a Nother
 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net
 mailto:godfea...@wrighthere.net .
 Your yMessage:






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Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-05 Thread alia robinson
If I needed another reason not to use it this is it; completely unacceptable 
and ridiculous. 

Alia
On Feb 4, 2014, at 10:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Robert,
  
 I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model because 
 I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they are doing is OK. 
 However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by this reply as it appears 
 they are basically telling you that your credits are gone and that's that.
 Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people to be 
 protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and is getting a 
 new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up and needed a reboot. 
 I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.
  
 Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits just on 
 their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I bet some would 
 abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do so, they need to find 
 a way to track how many credits each user has by associating credits with 
 either the Apple ID or by syncing them to iCloud or by having people sign up 
 for a Tap Tap See account where these credits could be bought. If the latter 
 would be possible they might actually get around Apple and offer 
 subscriptions at 30% less money because they don't have to pay Apple. The 
 Microsoft Office for Office 365 subscribers app is one example where 
 Microsoft tied their app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to 
 have, Netflix is another example, Skype another, many Voip services also work 
 that way. For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then when 
 you sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled to 
 whatever it is you are subscribing to.
  
 I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative press they 
 received lately reply to the list with some positive news that maybe we can 
 look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.
  
  
 Best regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 OfRobert Doc Wright
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us
  
 below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.
 
  
 Hello Doc Wright,
  
 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.
  
 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its 
 purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring 
 purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 
  
 Best Wishes,
 
 TapTapSee Team
  
 Follow on Twitter l Like on Facebook l Visit at TapTapSee
  
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com wrote:
 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to reinstall 
 it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app disappeared. After 
 reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased the credits.
 
 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had made a 
 previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a Nother 100 
 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes isgodfea...@wrighthere.net.
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Re: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-05 Thread TapTapSee
Hello Doc and All,

I'd like to provide an explain for the response that was sent to Doc. 

Apple has four classifications for in-app purchases. They are as followed: 
consumable, non-consumable, non-renewing subscriptions, and auto-renewable 
subscriptions. Two of those purchases are restorable if the app was 
accidentally deleted or the device had to be restored without backup. The 
in-app purchases that are restorable are: non-consumable and auto-renewable 
subscriptions. This information comes directly from the Apple website (link 
provided at the end of the message).

In the case of TapTapSee, the credits for pictures are categorized as 
consumable products. Therefore, they are not renewable. The monthly 
subscriptions, are not auto-renewable. Therefore, they are also not 
restorable. Now as mentioned, we are looking for a possible way around this 
issue.

One solution, as Michael noted, is to restore the purchases from your 
backup. The backup would have to be made prior to deleting the app and/or 
switching devices.

Doc, I apologize for the email not going into details to explain the issue 
that we're facing with restoring previous credits. However, I am glad that 
we are able to address this issue in the open forum.

Below I'd like to provide you with a direct quote of the information that 
is available on Apple's page in regard to in-app purchases:

If you lose your In-App Purchases because apps were accidentally deleted 
or you had to restore your device without a backup, you may be able to 
download some of your purchases again for free. See which types of In-App 
Purchases you need to purchase again or can redownload for free in the 
table:

Purchase again: Consumable and non-renewing subscriptions.

Download for free: Non-consumable and auto-renewable subscriptions.

To download an In-App Purchase again, you must download it from within the 
installed app using the same iTunes Store account name you used for the 
original In-App Purchase.

Link to the source: 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4009?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US

I'd also like to mention that we've been in communication with Apple, and 
are still seeking a possible solution. We'll continue to keep you informed 
on the progress.

If you have any further question, please feel free to contact us directly 
at cont...@taptapseeapp.com.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:53:30 AM UTC-8, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

  below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.

  
 Hello Doc Wright, 

 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.

 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its 
 purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring 
 purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 

 Best Wishes,

  TapTapSee Team

 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee l Like on 
 Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp
  l Visit at TapTapSee http://TapTapSeeApp.com/


 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wright...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to 
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app 
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased 
 the credits.

 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had 
 made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a 
 Nother 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godf...@wrighthere.net javascript:.
  Your yMessage:






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Re: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-05 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I understand now.  I am happily using the program.  My frustration came when 
the app disappeared  while I was trying to move it to another page.

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning 
start?

  - Original Message - 
  From: TapTapSee 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 3:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us


  Hello Doc and All,


  I'd like to provide an explain for the response that was sent to Doc. 


  Apple has four classifications for in-app purchases. They are as followed: 
consumable, non-consumable, non-renewing subscriptions, and auto-renewable 
subscriptions. Two of those purchases are restorable if the app was 
accidentally deleted or the device had to be restored without backup. The 
in-app purchases that are restorable are: non-consumable and auto-renewable 
subscriptions. This information comes directly from the Apple website (link 
provided at the end of the message).


  In the case of TapTapSee, the credits for pictures are categorized as 
consumable products. Therefore, they are not renewable. The monthly 
subscriptions, are not auto-renewable. Therefore, they are also not restorable. 
Now as mentioned, we are looking for a possible way around this issue.


  One solution, as Michael noted, is to restore the purchases from your backup. 
The backup would have to be made prior to deleting the app and/or switching 
devices.


  Doc, I apologize for the email not going into details to explain the issue 
that we're facing with restoring previous credits. However, I am glad that we 
are able to address this issue in the open forum.


  Below I'd like to provide you with a direct quote of the information that is 
available on Apple's page in regard to in-app purchases:


  If you lose your In-App Purchases because apps were accidentally deleted or 
you had to restore your device without a backup, you may be able to download 
some of your purchases again for free. See which types of In-App Purchases you 
need to purchase again or can redownload for free in the table:

  Purchase again: Consumable and non-renewing subscriptions.


  Download for free: Non-consumable and auto-renewable subscriptions.

  To download an In-App Purchase again, you must download it from within the 
installed app using the same iTunes Store account name you used for the 
original In-App Purchase.


  Link to the source: 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4009?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US


  I'd also like to mention that we've been in communication with Apple, and are 
still seeking a possible solution. We'll continue to keep you informed on the 
progress.


  If you have any further question, please feel free to contact us directly at 
cont...@taptapseeapp.com.


  Best Wishes,
  TapTapSee Team

  On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:53:30 AM UTC-8, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.

 
Hello Doc Wright, 


Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.


Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its 
purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring 
purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 


Best Wishes,


TapTapSee Team



Follow on Twitter l Like on Facebook l Visit at TapTapSee



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  Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to 
reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app 
disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased the 
credits.

  I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had 
made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a 
Nother 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
  My user ID for iTunes is godf...@wrighthere.net.
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2014-02-04 Thread Robert Doc Wright
below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.


Hello Doc Wright,


Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.


Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its 
purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring 
purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 


Best Wishes,


TapTapSee Team



Follow on Twitter l Like on Facebook l Visit at TapTapSee



On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com wrote:

  Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to reinstall 
it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app disappeared. After 
reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased the credits.

  I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had made a 
previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a Nother 100 
credits. Is there anything I can do?
  My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net.
   Your yMessage:






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RE: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Robert,

 

I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model because
I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they are doing is
OK. However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by this reply as it
appears they are basically telling you that your credits are gone and that's
that.

Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people to be
protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and is getting a
new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up and needed a reboot.
I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.

 

Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits just on
their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I bet some
would abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do so, they need
to find a way to track how many credits each user has by associating credits
with either the Apple ID or by syncing them to iCloud or by having people
sign up for a Tap Tap See account where these credits could be bought. If
the latter would be possible they might actually get around Apple and offer
subscriptions at 30% less money because they don't have to pay Apple. The
Microsoft Office for Office 365 subscribers app is one example where
Microsoft tied their app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to
have, Netflix is another example, Skype another, many Voip services also
work that way. For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then
when you sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled
to whatever it is you are subscribing to.

 

I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative press
they received lately reply to the list with some positive news that maybe we
can look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.

 

 

Best regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

 

below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to
reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.


 

Hello Doc Wright, 

 

Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.

 

Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its
purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring
purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions. 

 

Best Wishes,




TapTapSee Team

 

Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee  l Like on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp  l Visit at TapTapSee
http://TapTapSeeApp.com/ 

 

On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com
mailto:wrightsiph...@gmail.com  wrote:

Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to
reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app
disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased
the credits.

I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had made
a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a Nother
100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net
mailto:godfea...@wrighthere.net .
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Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-04 Thread Michael Feir
That's interesting. I just upgraded to an iPHONE5S and restored from
an incripted backup I made just prior to getting my new phone. I still
have my 69 credits which remain from the hundred I purchased. I didn't
lose them.

On 2/4/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Robert,



 I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model
 because
 I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they are doing is
 OK. However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by this reply as it
 appears they are basically telling you that your credits are gone and
 that's
 that.

 Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people to be
 protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and is getting
 a
 new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up and needed a
 reboot.
 I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.



 Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits just
 on
 their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I bet some
 would abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do so, they need
 to find a way to track how many credits each user has by associating
 credits
 with either the Apple ID or by syncing them to iCloud or by having people
 sign up for a Tap Tap See account where these credits could be bought. If
 the latter would be possible they might actually get around Apple and offer
 subscriptions at 30% less money because they don't have to pay Apple. The
 Microsoft Office for Office 365 subscribers app is one example where
 Microsoft tied their app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to
 have, Netflix is another example, Skype another, many Voip services also
 work that way. For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then
 when you sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled
 to whatever it is you are subscribing to.



 I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative press
 they received lately reply to the list with some positive news that maybe
 we
 can look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.





 Best regards,

 Sieghard



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us



 below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.




 Hello Doc Wright,



 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.



 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, its
 purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not restoring
 purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions.



 Best Wishes,




 TapTapSee Team



 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee  l Like on Facebook
 https://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp  l Visit at TapTapSee
 http://TapTapSeeApp.com/



 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com
 mailto:wrightsiph...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have purchased
 the credits.

 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had made
 a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again for a Nother
 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net
 mailto:godfea...@wrighthere.net .
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RE: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Thanks for that info, this answers my questions that the credits apparently
do get backed up at least. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Feir
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

That's interesting. I just upgraded to an iPHONE5S and restored from an
incripted backup I made just prior to getting my new phone. I still have my
69 credits which remain from the hundred I purchased. I didn't lose them.

On 2/4/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Robert,



 I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model 
 because I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they 
 are doing is OK. However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by 
 this reply as it appears they are basically telling you that your 
 credits are gone and that's that.

 Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people 
 to be protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and 
 is getting a new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up 
 and needed a reboot.
 I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.



 Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits 
 just on their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I 
 bet some would abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do 
 so, they need to find a way to track how many credits each user has by 
 associating credits with either the Apple ID or by syncing them to 
 iCloud or by having people sign up for a Tap Tap See account where 
 these credits could be bought. If the latter would be possible they 
 might actually get around Apple and offer subscriptions at 30% less 
 money because they don't have to pay Apple. The Microsoft Office for 
 Office 365 subscribers app is one example where Microsoft tied their 
 app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to have, Netflix is 
 another example, Skype another, many Voip services also work that way. 
 For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then when you 
 sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled to 
 whatever it is you are subscribing to.



 I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative 
 press they received lately reply to the list with some positive news 
 that maybe we can look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.





 Best regards,

 Sieghard



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us



 below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.




 Hello Doc Wright,



 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.



 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, 
 its purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not 
 restoring purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions.



 Best Wishes,




 TapTapSee Team



 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee  l Like on Facebook 
 https://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp  l Visit at TapTapSee 
 http://TapTapSeeApp.com/



 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com 
 mailto:wrightsiph...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to 
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app 
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have 
 purchased the credits.

 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had 
 made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again 
 for a Nother
 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net 
 mailto:godfea...@wrighthere.net .
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Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us

2014-02-04 Thread Teresa Cochran
A lot of apps have a 'restore purchases option. I'm not familiar with 
TapTapSee; does it have this option as well?

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Feb 4, 2014, at 8:48 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Thanks for that info, this answers my questions that the credits apparently
 do get backed up at least. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Michael Feir
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 8:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us
 
 That's interesting. I just upgraded to an iPHONE5S and restored from an
 incripted backup I made just prior to getting my new phone. I still have my
 69 credits which remain from the hundred I purchased. I didn't lose them.
 
 On 2/4/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Robert,
 
 
 
 I have been defending Tap Tap See and their subscription based model 
 because I feel they can't provide the service for free and what they 
 are doing is OK. However, I must admit that I am somewhat shocked by 
 this reply as it appears they are basically telling you that your 
 credits are gone and that's that.
 
 Definitely not cool. They absolutely must figure out a way for people 
 to be protected in case somebody has still 50 or 60 pictures left and 
 is getting a new device or maybe their phone was stolen or messed up 
 and needed a reboot.
 I wonder if credits are backed up with an encrypted backup.
 
 
 
 Of course I also understand that they can't give people back credits 
 just on their say-so since unfortunately not everybody is honest and I 
 bet some would abuse this, but if that is so and they can't already do 
 so, they need to find a way to track how many credits each user has by 
 associating credits with either the Apple ID or by syncing them to 
 iCloud or by having people sign up for a Tap Tap See account where 
 these credits could be bought. If the latter would be possible they 
 might actually get around Apple and offer subscriptions at 30% less 
 money because they don't have to pay Apple. The Microsoft Office for 
 Office 365 subscribers app is one example where Microsoft tied their 
 app to an Office 365 subscription which you have to have, Netflix is 
 another example, Skype another, many Voip services also work that way. 
 For all of these you buy the subscription directly and then when you 
 sign in with your credentials in the app it knows you are entitled to 
 whatever it is you are subscribing to.
 
 
 
 I hope Tap Tap See is reading this and given the somewhat negative 
 press they received lately reply to the list with some positive news 
 that maybe we can look forward to a better Tap Tap See soon.
 
 
 
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright
 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 3:54 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fw: Double purchase TapTapSee - Contact Us
 
 
 
 below is the response I received from taptapsy concerning my having to 
 reinstall taptapsy and being forced to repurchase 100 credits.
 
 
 
 
 Hello Doc Wright,
 
 
 
 Thank you for writing us. I apologize for the inconvenience.
 
 
 
 Unfortunately, when TapTapSee is deleted and reinstalled to a device, 
 its purchases are not saved into the system. This is due to Apple not 
 restoring purchases made for consumable and non-renewable subscriptions.
 
 
 
 Best Wishes,
 
 
 
 
 TapTapSee Team
 
 
 
 Follow on Twitter http://Twitter.com/TapTapSee  l Like on Facebook 
 https://www.facebook.com/TapTapSeeApp  l Visit at TapTapSee 
 http://TapTapSeeApp.com/
 
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Doc Wright wrightsiph...@gmail.com 
 mailto:wrightsiph...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
 Earlier I wrote you about losing the app on my iPhone and having to 
 reinstall it. I had originally purchased 100 credits before the app 
 disappeared. After reinstalling it it does not show that I have 
 purchased the credits.
 
 I purchased another 100 credit hoping that iTunes would see that I had 
 made a previous purchase, that was not the case I was charged again 
 for a Nother
 100 credits. Is there anything I can do?
 My user ID for iTunes is godfea...@wrighthere.net 
 mailto:godfea...@wrighthere.net .
 Your yMessage:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Version: Version: 2.1.5 (48)
 Model: iPhone
 System: iPhone OS, 7.0.4
 Locale: en_US
 Network: WiFi
 
 
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Re: TapTapSee

2013-12-13 Thread TapTapSee
Melanie,

That may be the reason. Try contacting iTunes Support, they may help you 
retrieve your previous purchase. Call (800) 
692-77531%20%28800%29%20692-7753and ask them to transfer you to the iTunes 
Store department. Unfortunately 
we do not have access to distribute the in-app purchases, but they may be 
able to assist you in restoring your purchase.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee Team


On Thursday, December 12, 2013 6:12:24 PM UTC-8, Melanie wrote:

 Thank you. I found the credit counter. That encourages me to purchase more 
 credits. I didn't want to purchase another 100 credits without having soome 
 way to monitor the loss of credits as I take pictures. I s AS i said, 
 there's absolutely no way I used 100 pictures in 3 weeks not when I varely 
 take 10 pictures a week. I'm wondering if having upgraded my phone to the 
 5s from the 4 had anything to do with osing my credits. I upgraded less 
 than one week before TapTapSee reported that I'd used all my credits.

 Melanie
 On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:06 PM, TapTapSee dmi...@taptapseeapp.comjavascript: 
 wrote:

 Hello Melanie,

 If you have the latest version of TapTapSee then you will find a Credit 
 Counter in the About Menu. The menu is located in the top right corner of 
 the home screen. If you do not find the counter then update to the latest 
 version of TapTapSee in the App Store.

 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee

 On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:07:33 PM UTC-8, Melanie wrote:

 Have they added a counter to the TapTapSee app that counts the number of 
 pictures taken? I've purchased a 100 picture package for $8 on 11/13 and 
 now I'm being told I've used my 100 pictures already. That noticed started 
 a week ago. There's no way I used that many pics in 3 weeks. I barely use 
 10 pics each week. I love the app and don't mind spending the $8 for 100 
 pics but I want to be sure that I get my 100 pics for the $8. 


 Melanie


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Re: TapTapSee

2013-12-12 Thread TapTapSee
Hello Melanie,

If you have the latest version of TapTapSee then you will find a Credit 
Counter in the About Menu. The menu is located in the top right corner of 
the home screen. If you do not find the counter then update to the latest 
version of TapTapSee in the App Store.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee

On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:07:33 PM UTC-8, Melanie wrote:

 Have they added a counter to the TapTapSee app that counts the number of 
 pictures taken? I've purchased a 100 picture package for $8 on 11/13 and 
 now I'm being told I've used my 100 pictures already. That noticed started 
 a week ago. There's no way I used that many pics in 3 weeks. I barely use 
 10 pics each week. I love the app and don't mind spending the $8 for 100 
 pics but I want to be sure that I get my 100 pics for the $8. 


 Melanie

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Re: TapTapSee

2013-12-12 Thread Melanie Clouser
Thank you. I found the credit counter. That encourages me to purchase more 
credits. I didn't want to purchase another 100 credits without having soome way 
to monitor the loss of credits as I take pictures. I s AS i said, there's 
absolutely no way I used 100 pictures in 3 weeks not when I varely take 10 
pictures a week. I'm wondering if having upgraded my phone to the 5s from the 4 
had anything to do with osing my credits. I upgraded less than one week before 
TapTapSee reported that I'd used all my credits.

Melanie
On Dec 12, 2013, at 1:06 PM, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:

 Hello Melanie,
 
 If you have the latest version of TapTapSee then you will find a Credit 
 Counter in the About Menu. The menu is located in the top right corner of the 
 home screen. If you do not find the counter then update to the latest version 
 of TapTapSee in the App Store.
 
 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee
 
 On Wednesday, December 11, 2013 5:07:33 PM UTC-8, Melanie wrote:
 Have they added a counter to the TapTapSee app that counts the number of 
 pictures taken? I've purchased a 100 picture package for $8 on 11/13 and now 
 I'm being told I've used my 100 pictures already. That noticed started a week 
 ago. There's no way I used that many pics in 3 weeks. I barely use 10 pics 
 each week. I love the app and don't mind spending the $8 for 100 pics but I 
 want to be sure that I get my 100 pics for the $8. 
 
 
 Melanie
 
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TapTapSee

2013-12-11 Thread Melanie Clouser
Have they added a counter to the TapTapSee app that counts the number of 
pictures taken? I've purchased a 100 picture package for $8 on 11/13 and now 
I'm being told I've used my 100 pictures already. That noticed started a week 
ago. There's no way I used that many pics in 3 weeks. I barely use 10 pics each 
week. I love the app and don't mind spending the $8 for 100 pics but I want to 
be sure that I get my 100 pics for the $8.


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Interview with TapTapSee

2013-11-21 Thread Mike
Hi everyone,
A member of the TapTapSee team joined my team and I on one of our 
podcasts to talk about their app.
We go over how it works, why they started charging, what led to it, how 
they chose the price, and a handful of other questions.
If you’re interested in hearing it you can follow this link:
http://htb2.com/2013/11/all-in-access-special-interview-with-taptapsee/

Have a great day everyone!
Mike M

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RE: TapTapSee

2013-11-15 Thread Jerry MAder
I agree with Cara.

I would love to pay for the service but to me it's gotta be worth my time to
pay for it.

And there should be a way to ask a question with the picture. Plus, you
should allow for a free version that allows for you to post your pic to
facebook, email, and twitter and not your services until someone pay for
that option. That's my thoughts.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Hi there, what Alan is saying is that though a result is sent, it may be
less than useful. I'll use my own recent experience as an example.

 

I was taking a shot of a tin of Republic of Tea Good Hope Vanilla. I in the
end, simply abandoned trying to get a confirmation that this was the tea I
had as the answers I continued to get were:

 

tin of tea

 

Can of food

 

Orange can

 

Republic of Tea

 

etc

 

I had the can in focus, the label in frame and wanted to verify that I did
have the Good Hope Vanilla tea. I have a vast amount of teas as I love love
love teas and coffees. So knowing which flavor I have of anything is really
important. I know that the tin is Republic of Tea, as I have several tins of
that brand of tea.

 

So Alan's concerns here are that we get relevant information and not just
information. Does this make sense?

 

I, like many here, have no problem with paying for a service as long as that
service is what we need.

 

So far, TapTapSee has been amazing and for me, that tea experience is
actually the first one I've seen where the app has failed. So I'm pretty
impressed. :)

 

So this is just a matter of working out the details so everyone can have the
proper results that will most benefit their particular needs.

 

Thanks for reading and have a nice day / weekend!

 

Smiles,

 

cara :)

On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:

 

Alan,

 

A successful identification occurs when a result gets sent back to you, as
opposed to a Failure to send message. We'll continue to monitor and
improve our identifications as time goes on. Accuracy and speed are always
the main focus for us.

 

Best Wishes,

On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:50:20 AM UTC-8, alanand...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Ok here's my question.  I may have to take several pictures moving the
iPhone forward, backward, left or right only to hear can of chili.  That's
helpful but not very informative.  If I under stand you then that would be a
successful image and thus I'd be charged for that picture when in reality,
I'm looking for can is Hormel Chili no beans.  I don't have a problem
paying.  I'm not looking for something for nothing.  I'm just concerned that
I get the information I need with out being over charged.  With the hundred
picture plan at 8 cents a picture and it takes me ten shots to get it right,
then it would cost me 80 cents just to find out what's inside that can.  The
same thing with boxes etc.  Box of cereal is not what I need to know.  Box
of Kellogg Frosted Flakes is.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: TapTapSee javascript:  

To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:  

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Paula, 

We'll be releasing an update in the next 5-7 days that will fix it to only
count the successful pictures. Meaning, the pictures that return an
identification to your phone.


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:40:37 PM UTC-8, Paula Jordan wrote: 

What about those pictures that come back as failed?  I was trying to get a
picture yesterday and got the message that the picture had timed out. There
were 5 or 6 of those timed out ones before I actually got the picture of the
shirt logo which was what I was looking for.  Would I be charged for the
failed pix if I use the 100 picture plan?

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 4:46 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Donna,

It goes from the date of purchase. As you said, i.e. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th.
Then when you attempt to take another picture after those dates a message
for subscription will appear.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:12:52 PM UTC-8, mermaid7100 wrote:

Hello

 

Does the monthly $9.99 unlimited pictures subscription go from the date of
purchase to the same day the next month, ex. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th? Or from

RE: TapTapSee

2013-11-15 Thread Jerry MAder
I was gonna say the same thing.

It isn't like we have eyes to see where the picture is at or how to get a
good shot.

We shouldn't be charged for that. It's not like we can just magically have a
sighted person by us 24:7 to make sure we got all of the picture in the
camera.

Jerry Mader

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

It's not the blind person's fault either. Geesh! Doesn't anyone have any
common sense?

 

Andy

 

From: DJ mailto:grou...@gmail.com  

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 3:31 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: TapTapSee

Ok everyone is entitled to their opinion, but come on.  It's not their fault
that blind people can't take the best pictures which are alway clear and
easily recognizable.  This discussion is getting to be absolutely
rediculous.  And that's my opinion.

 

 

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Dawn Petty
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

what about pictures that are deemed blurry or unrecognizable?  will they
count toward the 100 pictures?  I think only the ones that can be identified
should count.  

 

From: TapTapSee mailto:dmit...@taptapseeapp.com  

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:46 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Donna, 

It goes from the date of purchase. As you said, i.e. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th.
Then when you attempt to take another picture after those dates a message
for subscription will appear.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 1:12:52 PM UTC-8, mermaid7100 wrote: 

Hello

 

Does the monthly $9.99 unlimited pictures subscription go from the date of
purchase to the same day the next month, ex. Nov. 7th to Dec. 6th? Or from
the first day in the month to the last day in a month, ex. Nov. 1st to Nov.
30rd?

 

Thanks

 

Donna 

 

Hello Debbie, 

 

This is something someone else suggested today as well. It is definitely
something that we'll look into for a future update. Thank you for the
suggestion!

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 12:40:30 PM UTC-8, deb wrote: 

Hello,

 

I was just wondering if there is some sort of counter that is accessible to
let you know how many pictures you have left if you purchase the 100 picture
package?

 

Thank you!

 

Debbie

 


  _  


From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:20 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

No, it does not have an expiration date. That package is good until you run
out of the 100 pictures.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:03:43 AM UTC-8, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
wrote: 

Will the 100 picture option have a time limit or expiration date? 

 

From: vip...@googlegroups.com [mailto:vip...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
TapTapSee
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 12:48 PM
To: vip...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Due to the high costs of image recognition, we were forced to change
TapTapSee into a subscription based service. We will continue to improve our
service in order to provide you with the high quality tags that you've come
to love and expect. The TapTapSee team is committed to improving the app
based on the customer feedback and suggestions. In the next few days a
message will pop up on the app that will present you with two option. Option
1) 100 Picture Pack for $7.99. Option 2) 1 Month of Unlimited Pictures for
$9.99. The purchase is done through your Apple iTunes account.

On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:57:53 AM UTC-8, rubyalphonse wrote:

Hi all, I am getting the message to purchase creditI was happy to have this
App, I will miss it very badlyI know, but, I feel if I have to subscribe, I
think of not using TapTapSee. But I'm very upset about this. Why sudden
change I wonder. Ruby

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RE: TapTapSee

2013-11-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You can use other apps to post to Facebook, in fact, you can do so right
from the Camera roll.

Implementing additional features like a text box where one could ask a
question is according to Tap Tap See something they are exploring, but of
course in the meantime they still incur the cost for recognition so even if
you buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 which may last you several months you at
least show your support and help them to develop and improve the app
further.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jerry MAder
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: TapTapSee

I agree with Cara.

I would love to pay for the service but to me it's gotta be worth my time to
pay for it.

And there should be a way to ask a question with the picture. Plus, you
should allow for a free version that allows for you to post your pic to
facebook, email, and twitter and not your services until someone pay for
that option. That's my thoughts.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Cara Quinn
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Hi there, what Alan is saying is that though a result is sent, it may be
less than useful. I'll use my own recent experience as an example.

 

I was taking a shot of a tin of Republic of Tea Good Hope Vanilla. I in the
end, simply abandoned trying to get a confirmation that this was the tea I
had as the answers I continued to get were:

 

tin of tea

 

Can of food

 

Orange can

 

Republic of Tea

 

etc

 

I had the can in focus, the label in frame and wanted to verify that I did
have the Good Hope Vanilla tea. I have a vast amount of teas as I love love
love teas and coffees. So knowing which flavor I have of anything is really
important. I know that the tin is Republic of Tea, as I have several tins of
that brand of tea.

 

So Alan's concerns here are that we get relevant information and not just
information. Does this make sense?

 

I, like many here, have no problem with paying for a service as long as that
service is what we need.

 

So far, TapTapSee has been amazing and for me, that tea experience is
actually the first one I've seen where the app has failed. So I'm pretty
impressed. :)

 

So this is just a matter of working out the details so everyone can have the
proper results that will most benefit their particular needs.

 

Thanks for reading and have a nice day / weekend!

 

Smiles,

 

cara :)

On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:

 

Alan,

 

A successful identification occurs when a result gets sent back to you, as
opposed to a Failure to send message. We'll continue to monitor and
improve our identifications as time goes on. Accuracy and speed are always
the main focus for us.

 

Best Wishes,

On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:50:20 AM UTC-8, alanand...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Ok here's my question.  I may have to take several pictures moving the
iPhone forward, backward, left or right only to hear can of chili.  That's
helpful but not very informative.  If I under stand you then that would be a
successful image and thus I'd be charged for that picture when in reality,
I'm looking for can is Hormel Chili no beans.  I don't have a problem
paying.  I'm not looking for something for nothing.  I'm just concerned that
I get the information I need with out being over charged.  With the hundred
picture plan at 8 cents a picture and it takes me ten shots to get it right,
then it would cost me 80 cents just to find out what's inside that can.  The
same thing with boxes etc.  Box of cereal is not what I need to know.  Box
of Kellogg Frosted Flakes is.

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

Please click on: 
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: TapTapSee javascript:  

To: vip...@googlegroups.com javascript:  

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:53 AM

Subject: Re: TapTapSee

 

Paula, 

We'll be releasing an update in the next 5-7 days that will fix it to only
count the successful pictures. Meaning, the pictures that return an
identification to your phone.


On Thursday, November 7, 2013 7:40:37 PM UTC-8, Paula Jordan wrote: 

What about those pictures that come back as failed?  I was trying to get a
picture yesterday and got the message that the picture had timed out. There
were 5 or 6 of those timed out ones before I actually got the picture of the
shirt logo which was what I was looking

Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-15 Thread Joanne Chua
Why do you need tap tap see to allow you to post to facebook, twitter,
or any other service? that is not the objective and reason why tap tap
see exist.
If you want to take a photo, and ask your fellow friend or on social
media on that photo, like Sieghard said, you can do it directly from
'Photo' itself, or on any of the social media apps. Or, if you
spacificly looking for ddiscription, VizWiz provide you with the
option to take a photo, and you can choose to email, twitter,
facebook, ask google, or ask volunteer for help.
That beside the point. The point is Tap Tap sSee allows you to
identify a photo, or an object. Not as a entertainment tol for you to
twitt, facebooking, or entertain yourself and your friends around.
This is why, yet another reason why Tap Tap See charge for their service.

On 16/11/2013, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 You can use other apps to post to Facebook, in fact, you can do so right
 from the Camera roll.

 Implementing additional features like a text box where one could ask a
 question is according to Tap Tap See something they are exploring, but of
 course in the meantime they still incur the cost for recognition so even if
 you buy the 100 pictures for $7.99 which may last you several months you at
 least show your support and help them to develop and improve the app
 further.


 Regards,
 Sieghard

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Jerry MAder
 Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:01 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: TapTapSee

 I agree with Cara.

 I would love to pay for the service but to me it's gotta be worth my time
 to
 pay for it.

 And there should be a way to ask a question with the picture. Plus, you
 should allow for a free version that allows for you to post your pic to
 facebook, email, and twitter and not your services until someone pay for
 that option. That's my thoughts.



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Cara Quinn
 Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:16 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: TapTapSee



 Hi there, what Alan is saying is that though a result is sent, it may be
 less than useful. I'll use my own recent experience as an example.



 I was taking a shot of a tin of Republic of Tea Good Hope Vanilla. I in the
 end, simply abandoned trying to get a confirmation that this was the tea I
 had as the answers I continued to get were:



 tin of tea



 Can of food



 Orange can



 Republic of Tea



 etc



 I had the can in focus, the label in frame and wanted to verify that I did
 have the Good Hope Vanilla tea. I have a vast amount of teas as I love love
 love teas and coffees. So knowing which flavor I have of anything is really
 important. I know that the tin is Republic of Tea, as I have several tins
 of
 that brand of tea.



 So Alan's concerns here are that we get relevant information and not just
 information. Does this make sense?



 I, like many here, have no problem with paying for a service as long as
 that
 service is what we need.



 So far, TapTapSee has been amazing and for me, that tea experience is
 actually the first one I've seen where the app has failed. So I'm pretty
 impressed. :)



 So this is just a matter of working out the details so everyone can have
 the
 proper results that will most benefit their particular needs.



 Thanks for reading and have a nice day / weekend!



 Smiles,



 cara :)

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 11:41 AM, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:



 Alan,



 A successful identification occurs when a result gets sent back to you, as
 opposed to a Failure to send message. We'll continue to monitor and
 improve our identifications as time goes on. Accuracy and speed are always
 the main focus for us.



 Best Wishes,

 On Friday, November 8, 2013 10:50:20 AM UTC-8, alanand...@earthlink.net
 wrote:

 Ok here's my question.  I may have to take several pictures moving the
 iPhone forward, backward, left or right only to hear can of chili.  That's
 helpful but not very informative.  If I under stand you then that would be
 a
 successful image and thus I'd be charged for that picture when in reality,
 I'm looking for can is Hormel Chili no beans.  I don't have a problem
 paying.  I'm not looking for something for nothing.  I'm just concerned
 that
 I get the information I need with out being over charged.  With the hundred
 picture plan at 8 cents a picture and it takes me ten shots to get it
 right,
 then it would cost me 80 cents just to find out what's inside that can.
 The
 same thing with boxes etc.  Box of cereal is not what I need to know.  Box
 of Kellogg Frosted Flakes is.

 ---



 Regards,



 Alan



 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!



 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.



 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net

Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-12 Thread David Chittenden
It is entirely possible. I have such a horrible memory for names, that I do not 
remember the name of the company.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 12 Nov 2013, at 15:49, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  Ameripage?  By any chance could that have been 
 
 
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPhone 5s
 
 On Nov 11, 2013, at 6:12 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:I 
 
 Back in the mid 90's, I purchased a pager service with included voice was 
 mail for my business. The pager service was $6 per month plus $4 per month 
 for the voice mail. However, the company was running a new subscriber 
 special for involved with them.$150 for lifetime service. This was at the 
 time just before cell phones started becoming popular. Well, lifetime 
 service, including voice mail, for $150, wow, what a bargain. I would pay it 
 off in 15 months and never need to worry about paying for that service again.
 
 After 15 months of service, I broke even. After 18 months of service, the 
 company folded. Cellphone service was becoming much more popular, so people 
 were not using voicemail pagers as much anymore. However, the company still 
 had to pay for the continuing costs of the voicemail service, and they could 
 not meet their costs. So, I received 3 free months of service before I 
 needed to find another system. I also needed to change all my promotional 
 materials to a new phone number since I lost the pager number when the 
 company went out of business.
 
 Lifetime means lifetime of the service or lifetime of the company, and the 
 company must have revenue streams to cover their costs.
 
 So, when people complain about how unfair it is for a company to pass on 
 their ongoing costs, remember that the alternative may well be end of 
 service..
 
 Then, consider the following. VizWiz is a project of a certain university in 
 the US. I believe it is Georgia Tech, but it has been a couple years since I 
 read information about it, so I may well be completely wrong about which 
 university. VizWiz uses volunteers to identify pictures. However, they still 
 have computer network and routing charges which they must pay. The US 
 government is reducing funding to universities. I wonder how much longer 
 VizWiz will continue running.
 
 We already know that Talking Goggles ceased functioning once already, for 
 several months, because of some conflict with Google.
 
 Just a few things to think about when one starts feeling frustrated about 
 prices of ongoing services.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread Carol Forrester
can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this actually 
mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:

 If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
 customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case the app
 was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide if it is
 acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is worth the money
 to him or her.  Should really does not really enter it.  We've seen it, know
 how it works and should decide individually if that is how we choose to
 spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.  Thanks.
 
 Wayne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
 responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee
 
 Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions on how
 to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they should not
 be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to use the product or
 parts of the software. So in this vain they should not have to not charge
 for a picture just because it is blurry or not centered enough to be of any
 use.
 
 On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:
 Cara,
 
 Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we do 
 not use volunteers.
 
 On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll 
 be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing 
 effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with their
 iDevices.
 We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the 
 best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very good resource 
 for everyone. We believe that if we all come together to help each 
 other understand the process of photography better, then everyone wins.
 
 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee
 
 On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25:23 AM UTC-8, Cara wrote:
 
 HI John and All,
 
 While I have no problems with a subscription for this app, the idea 
 that charging the visually impaired based on their abilities to take 
 good pictures being not at all the developer's responsibility is not 
 quite accurate.
 
 As a developer who is involved with recognition apps myself, Even 
 though we do not have a pay model, like TapTapSee, we absolutely take 
 the idea of
 
 asking the blind / VI people to take their own images very, very 
 seriously.
 
 So in my opinion, yes, this is actually somewhat a developers 
 responsibility, especially if these images are a paid service and 
 that service depends on both the quality of said images which are 
 submitted, and also the information about those images which is 
 returned to the customer.
 
 
 Again this is my own opinion and I do think TapTapSee is taking steps 
 to offer constructive tips and solutions for the population benefited 
 by this
 
 app to educate VI people in how to take better / more usable images. 
 I do
 
 think many suggestions offered here, in order to improve the user 
 experience, are very good. So it's my hope that TapTapSee will take 
 these
 
 to heart and implement them. I'm sure they will as they seem to be a 
 responsive and caring company as their dialogue here has shown.
 
 I'm assuming they will also begin offering a subscription model for 
 CamFind (which is also from the same company) as well which may also 
 offset the operating costs of TapTapSee so perhaps the new pay model 
 will be evolving over time to something that all of those who need 
 this app will find  useful, convenient and affordable.
 
 I'd also like to include a link below to Amazon Mechanical Turk, 
 which offers a service for developers to access human capabilities 
 for just this
 
 type of recognition. Now I'm not saying that this is the exact 
 service that TapTapSee is offering but I am saying that this may give 
 many users here some idea of what is happening behind the scenes to 
 power this app so that
 
 you get your descriptions back from the images you send. I think it's 
 always a good idea to know what is happening with what products you 
 use so
 
 that you can be an educated consumer. This is especially important 
 for the
 
 visually impaired in my opinion, as the community has unfortunately 
 from time to time, seen both over and under inflated costs for 
 necessary services. I.E. either products or services being basically 
 handed out for
 
 nothing or way over-priced.
 
 Anyway, knowing about the products and services you need is very easy 
 currently so here now, is the link to Mechanical Turk, check it out! 
 :)
 
 Have an awesome night / weekend and linkie is below!
 
 Smiles,
 
 Cara :)
 
 http://aws.amazon.com/mturk/faqs/
 
 
 On Nov 9, 2013, at 9:01 PM, John

Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread David Chittenden
No, buying credits means buying service from the app. The price of the app in 
the app store is free. Credits permit you to submit pictures if you do not want 
to pay the $9.95 subscription fee.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 12 Nov 2013, at 8:37, Carol Forrester carol.l.forres...@me.com wrote:
 
 can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this actually 
 mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
 On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
 customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case the app
 was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide if it is
 acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is worth the money
 to him or her.  Should really does not really enter it.  We've seen it, know
 how it works and should decide individually if that is how we choose to
 spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.  Thanks.
 
 Wayne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
 responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee
 
 Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions on how
 to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they should not
 be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to use the product or
 parts of the software. So in this vain they should not have to not charge
 for a picture just because it is blurry or not centered enough to be of any
 use.
 
 On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:
 Cara,
 
 Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we do 
 not use volunteers.
 
 On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll 
 be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing 
 effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with their
 iDevices.
 We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the 
 best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very good resource 
 for everyone. We believe that if we all come together to help each 
 other understand the process of photography better, then everyone wins.
 
 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee
 
 On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25:23 AM UTC-8, Cara wrote:
 
 HI John and All,
 
 While I have no problems with a subscription for this app, the idea 
 that charging the visually impaired based on their abilities to take 
 good pictures being not at all the developer's responsibility is not 
 quite accurate.
 
 As a developer who is involved with recognition apps myself, Even 
 though we do not have a pay model, like TapTapSee, we absolutely take 
 the idea of
 
 asking the blind / VI people to take their own images very, very 
 seriously.
 
 So in my opinion, yes, this is actually somewhat a developers 
 responsibility, especially if these images are a paid service and 
 that service depends on both the quality of said images which are 
 submitted, and also the information about those images which is 
 returned to the customer.
 
 
 Again this is my own opinion and I do think TapTapSee is taking steps 
 to offer constructive tips and solutions for the population benefited 
 by this
 
 app to educate VI people in how to take better / more usable images. 
 I do
 
 think many suggestions offered here, in order to improve the user 
 experience, are very good. So it's my hope that TapTapSee will take 
 these
 
 to heart and implement them. I'm sure they will as they seem to be a 
 responsive and caring company as their dialogue here has shown.
 
 I'm assuming they will also begin offering a subscription model for 
 CamFind (which is also from the same company) as well which may also 
 offset the operating costs of TapTapSee so perhaps the new pay model 
 will be evolving over time to something that all of those who need 
 this app will find  useful, convenient and affordable.
 
 I'd also like to include a link below to Amazon Mechanical Turk, 
 which offers a service for developers to access human capabilities 
 for just this
 
 type of recognition. Now I'm not saying that this is the exact 
 service that TapTapSee is offering but I am saying that this may give 
 many users here some idea of what is happening behind the scenes to 
 power this app so that
 
 you get your descriptions back from the images you send. I think it's 
 always a good idea to know what is happening with what products you 
 use so
 
 that you can be an educated consumer. This is especially important 
 for the
 
 visually impaired in my opinion, as the community has unfortunately 
 from time to time, seen both over and under inflated costs for 
 necessary services. I.E. either products

RE: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Carol,

No, the app continues to be free, but you pay for using the service. You
really have to think of this as a service not an app because all the app
does is to provide an interface for taking the picture and passing it on to
Tap Tap See's servers. Here the picture is now recognized, quite often by a
real person who gets paid for providing the description, then the result is
sent back to your phone where it is announced and displayed in the app.

Tap Tap See has been paying for this and they tried to fund this from maybe
other revenues they received, but it came to a point where they either had
to start charging or shut the service down completely.

If you use Tap Tap See only occasionally you are better off buying their 100
picture package for $7.99. You basically pay 8 Cents for each picture you
send and receive a reply/description.
If you use Tap Tap See a whole lot you can pay a monthly flat rate of $9.99
for unlimited use which means you pay $9.99 whether you take no pictures or
1,000 pictures.
The math is easy. At 8 Cents a picture, 125 pictures would cost you $10
which is the cost for the monthly subscription. If you take less than 125
pictures a month you are better off paying for actual use and to buy the 100
picture pack. The other good thing is of course that the 100 pictures won't
go away, if you only take 2 one month and 20 the next then you still have 78
left and if you never took another picture for the next 3 months then after
5 months you still had 78 pictures. If you pay $9.99 then you can take
unlimited pictures for the next 30 days, but if you only used 50, you could
have done so for a lot less.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Forrester
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this
actually mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:

 If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
 customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case the app
 was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide if it
is
 acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is worth the
money
 to him or her.  Should really does not really enter it.  We've seen it,
know
 how it works and should decide individually if that is how we choose to
 spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.  Thanks.
 
 Wayne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
 responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee
 
 Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions on
how
 to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they should not
 be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to use the product
or
 parts of the software. So in this vain they should not have to not charge
 for a picture just because it is blurry or not centered enough to be of
any
 use.
 
 On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:
 Cara,
 
 Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we do 
 not use volunteers.
 
 On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll 
 be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing 
 effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with
their
 iDevices.
 We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the 
 best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very good resource 
 for everyone. We believe that if we all come together to help each 
 other understand the process of photography better, then everyone wins.
 
 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee
 
 On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25:23 AM UTC-8, Cara wrote:
 
 HI John and All,
 
 While I have no problems with a subscription for this app, the idea 
 that charging the visually impaired based on their abilities to take 
 good pictures being not at all the developer's responsibility is not 
 quite accurate.
 
 As a developer who is involved with recognition apps myself, Even 
 though we do not have a pay model, like TapTapSee, we absolutely take 
 the idea of
 
 asking the blind / VI people to take their own images very, very 
 seriously.
 
 So in my opinion, yes, this is actually somewhat a developers 
 responsibility, especially if these images are a paid service and 
 that service depends on both the quality of said images which are 
 submitted, and also the information about those images which is 
 returned to the customer.
 
 
 Again this is my own opinion and I do think TapTapSee is taking steps

RE: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread Wayne gmail
Hi Carol.  Not sure I understand your question.  Tap Tap See has been a free
app and service but has decided they need to charge to keep this service
going.  They will be charging $8 to receive and recognize 100 pictures.  Or
you can subscribe to a monthly service with unlimited number of pictures for
$10 per month.  Some members are objecting to having to pay at all.  Most
accept the need to pay but some object to having to pay for ongoing use of
the service.  There are also objections to being charged to interpret a
picture if it is too blurred for an interpreter to recognize what they are
seeing.  Tap Tap See must pay the interpreter for attempting to recognize
the object but some think that Tap Tap See should absorb the cost because
the user is blind.  There are others who object to paying for a picture when
the interpreter fails to provide useful information about it.  Currently
there is no way for the user to say exactly what information is required.
Tap Tap See points out that they must pay the interpreter even if they don't
provide enough information so the user must still pay for the picture.
   Some, like myself, feel that Tap Tap See has a right to set the terms and
conditions and also to decide how they will charge for the service.  The
user has the right to decide whether or not they wish to use the service and
pay for it.  Many have said they wouldn't mind paying for the app if they
could get unlimited use of the service for that flat price.  Tap Tap See
will still have the ongoing cost of paying the people who look at each
picture whether or not those people can provide useful information.  I guess
credit means a picture in this particular case.  It would be kinda nice if
folks would just decide whether they want the service enough to pay for it
and get on with life.  One can easily spend $8 or more in a trip to
Starbucks and no one seems to think it unfair that they are asked to do it
again every time they go back to Starbucks.  The only difference I see here
is that the customers are blind.  I guess I do see a point that we should be
given the chance to tell the interpreter what information we need and expect
them to provide that information or a reason why they cannot.  I would
expect Starbucks to take it back if I asked for coffee and they gave me
eggnog with no coffee in it.  Nevertheless I am willing to pay for the
service under the current terms and advocate with these very responsive
developers for improving the product.  They can't improve the product if
they go broke.

Regards,
Wayne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Forrester
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this
actually mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol On 11 Nov 2013,
at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:

 If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every 
 customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case the 
 app was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide 
 if it is acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is 
 worth the money to him or her.  Should really does not really enter 
 it.  We've seen it, know how it works and should decide individually 
 if that is how we choose to spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.
Thanks.
 
 Wayne
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers 
 responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee
 
 Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions 
 on how to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they 
 should not be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to 
 use the product or parts of the software. So in this vain they should 
 not have to not charge for a picture just because it is blurry or not 
 centered enough to be of any use.
 
 On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:
 Cara,
 
 Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we 
 do not use volunteers.
 
 On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll 
 be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing 
 effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with 
 their
 iDevices.
 We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the 
 best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very good resource 
 for everyone. We believe that if we all come together to help each 
 other understand the process of photography better, then everyone wins.
 
 Best Wishes,
 TapTapSee
 
 On Sunday, November 10

Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread Andy Baracco
The app is free, but you can't do anything with it unless you pay? Sounds 
like buying a car and being told that you have to pay extra for the engine, 
wheels and tires. But that seems to be the trend, as many developers are 
doing this, i. e. the Seeing Eye GPS app, and the various sports apps such 
as MLB At bat, NFL Audio Pass, and NBA Game Time.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers 
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee


Hi Carol,

No, the app continues to be free, but you pay for using the service. You
really have to think of this as a service not an app because all the app
does is to provide an interface for taking the picture and passing it on to
Tap Tap See's servers. Here the picture is now recognized, quite often by a
real person who gets paid for providing the description, then the result is
sent back to your phone where it is announced and displayed in the app.

Tap Tap See has been paying for this and they tried to fund this from maybe
other revenues they received, but it came to a point where they either had
to start charging or shut the service down completely.

If you use Tap Tap See only occasionally you are better off buying their 100
picture package for $7.99. You basically pay 8 Cents for each picture you
send and receive a reply/description.
If you use Tap Tap See a whole lot you can pay a monthly flat rate of $9.99
for unlimited use which means you pay $9.99 whether you take no pictures or
1,000 pictures.
The math is easy. At 8 Cents a picture, 125 pictures would cost you $10
which is the cost for the monthly subscription. If you take less than 125
pictures a month you are better off paying for actual use and to buy the 100
picture pack. The other good thing is of course that the 100 pictures won't
go away, if you only take 2 one month and 20 the next then you still have 78
left and if you never took another picture for the next 3 months then after
5 months you still had 78 pictures. If you pay $9.99 then you can take
unlimited pictures for the next 30 days, but if you only used 50, you could
have done so for a lot less.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Carol Forrester
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this
actually mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:


If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case the app
was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide if it

is

acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is worth the

money

to him or her.  Should really does not really enter it.  We've seen it,

know

how it works and should decide individually if that is how we choose to
spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.  Thanks.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions on

how

to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they should not
be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to use the product

or

parts of the software. So in this vain they should not have to not charge
for a picture just because it is blurry or not centered enough to be of

any

use.

On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:

Cara,

Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we do
not use volunteers.

On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll
be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing
effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with

their

iDevices.

We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the
best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very good resource
for everyone. We believe that if we all come together to help each
other understand the process of photography better, then everyone wins.

Best Wishes,
TapTapSee

On Sunday, November 10, 2013 1:25:23 AM UTC-8, Cara wrote:


HI John and All,

While I have no problems with a subscription for this app, the idea
that charging the visually impaired based on their abilities to take
good pictures being not at all the developer's responsibility is not
quite accurate.

As a developer who is involved with recognition apps myself

Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't think it's much like buying a car, although if gas prices were 
high enough, maybe gas companies would give away cars and you'd just 
have to pay for the gas from them to run your car. I don't think this is 
a new trend, but when your selling a service or content rather than a 
piece of hardware or a stand alone software application, it's frequently 
the case that you give away the hardware or the application and then 
charge for the service or the content.


On 11/11/2013 04:00 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
The app is free, but you can't do anything with it unless you pay? 
Sounds like buying a car and being told that you have to pay extra for 
the engine, wheels and tires. But that seems to be the trend, as many 
developers are doing this, i. e. the Seeing Eye GPS app, and the 
various sports apps such as MLB At bat, NFL Audio Pass, and NBA Game 
Time.


Andy


-Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers 
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee


Hi Carol,

No, the app continues to be free, but you pay for using the service. You
really have to think of this as a service not an app because all the app
does is to provide an interface for taking the picture and passing it 
on to
Tap Tap See's servers. Here the picture is now recognized, quite often 
by a
real person who gets paid for providing the description, then the 
result is

sent back to your phone where it is announced and displayed in the app.

Tap Tap See has been paying for this and they tried to fund this from 
maybe
other revenues they received, but it came to a point where they either 
had

to start charging or shut the service down completely.

If you use Tap Tap See only occasionally you are better off buying 
their 100

picture package for $7.99. You basically pay 8 Cents for each picture you
send and receive a reply/description.
If you use Tap Tap See a whole lot you can pay a monthly flat rate of 
$9.99
for unlimited use which means you pay $9.99 whether you take no 
pictures or

1,000 pictures.
The math is easy. At 8 Cents a picture, 125 pictures would cost you $10
which is the cost for the monthly subscription. If you take less than 125
pictures a month you are better off paying for actual use and to buy 
the 100
picture pack. The other good thing is of course that the 100 pictures 
won't
go away, if you only take 2 one month and 20 the next then you still 
have 78
left and if you never took another picture for the next 3 months then 
after

5 months you still had 78 pictures. If you pay $9.99 then you can take
unlimited pictures for the next 30 days, but if you only used 50, you 
could

have done so for a lot less.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Carol Forrester
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

can someone explain this when it says to buy credits, what does this
actually mean is it not an outright price for the app? Carol
On 11 Nov 2013, at 04:37, Wayne gmail ewaynebrum...@gmail.com wrote:


If a developer waited until the app was perfect in the mind of every
customer before releasing it, we would have no apps.  In this case 
the app

was free for a year and everyone had a great opportunity to decide if it

is

acceptable or not.  Now the customer has to decide if it is worth the

money

to him or her.  Should really does not really enter it.  We've seen it,

know

how it works and should decide individually if that is how we choose to
spend our money.  Quietly decide I hope.  Thanks.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mechanical Turk, CamFind, TapTapSee and developers
responsibilities -was- Re: TapTapSee

Cara I am not saying that the developer shouldn't provide suggestions on

how
to take pictures or in general use their product. However, they 
should not

be held responsible if I am not able to interpret how to use the product

or
parts of the software. So in this vain they should not have to not 
charge

for a picture just because it is blurry or not centered enough to be of

any

use.

On 11/10/13, TapTapSee dmit...@taptapseeapp.com wrote:

Cara,

Our technology involves computer vision and crowdsourcing. Also, we do
not use volunteers.

On another note, we are currently compiling a list of tips that we'll
be adding to our website in the next week. This will be an ongoing
effort to help those users that have difficulty taking pictures with

their

iDevices.

We believe that if we, as a community, all get together and share the
best tips about taking picture, then we can have a very

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