RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-14 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
It's Talking Goggles- some of the messages have been deleted and you can't
find out unless you go way back in the thread. Cher  

 

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Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Hi Al, and thank you for the help. Which app are you two talking about? I am
looking for one to help me with Schwan's products. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:25 PM, "Don and Cher Bosch"
 wrote:

I guess so, and there must be some kind of flash on the page because these
little text strings keep jumping around. I thought somehow the program must
have something to do with the text on the screen. Didn't realize there were
two versions, will check that out if the app seems useful. Thanks.

Cher

 

 

 

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Of Robin Christopherson
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Cher

 

I'm guessing you have the free version. It sounds like it is full of ads.
I'd definitely pay the money for the paid version as it's interface is very
uncluttered. 

 

Thanks, Robin.

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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-14 Thread Lea Langley
Hi Al, and thank you for the help. Which app are you two talking about? I am 
looking for one to help me with Schwan's products. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 13, 2013, at 8:25 PM, "Don and Cher Bosch" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess so, and there must be some kind of flash on the page because these 
> little text strings keep jumping around. I thought somehow the program must 
> have something to do with the text on the screen. Didn't realize there were 
> two versions, will check that out if the app seems useful. Thanks.
> Cher
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Robin Christopherson
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:22 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: The best object recognition app out there I know
>  
> Cher
>  
> I’m guessing you have the free version. It sounds like it is full of ads. I’d 
> definitely pay the money for the paid version as it’s interface is very 
> uncluttered.
>  
> Thanks, Robin.
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RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-13 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
I guess so, and there must be some kind of flash on the page because these
little text strings keep jumping around. I thought somehow the program must
have something to do with the text on the screen. Didn't realize there were
two versions, will check that out if the app seems useful. Thanks.

Cher

 

 

 

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Of Robin Christopherson
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Cher

 

I'm guessing you have the free version. It sounds like it is full of ads.
I'd definitely pay the money for the paid version as it's interface is very
uncluttered. 

 

Thanks, Robin.

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The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-13 Thread Robin Christopherson
Cher

I’m guessing you have the free version. It sounds like it is full of ads. I’d 
definitely pay the money for the paid version as it’s interface is very 
uncluttered. 

Thanks, Robin.

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RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Cher,

 

If you see Still Camera and Stop this means you are in video mode and the
camera is looking. Just hold your phone still over a package and wait for 3
to 5 seconds to see if it will recognize anything.

If you double tap Still Camera it will say Video and the Stop/Record button
will become the button to take a picture.

 

 

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Of Don and Cher Bosch
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

With the right-hand button set to 'still camera' , the button to the left
says 'stop' for me.

 

Also, why do you hear gibberish in the background- perhaps another language?

 

Cher

 

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Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

You need to set it so that the right=hand button says "Still camera" which
means that it's in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say
Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which
says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a
huge choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France
so the items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.

 

The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold the
iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top
right-hand corner of the back of the iPhone.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

 

Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can't get
anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects
found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is
the video part of this to do?  Andy

 

From: Anne Robertson <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM

To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Hello Robin,

 

I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food,
but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson
 wrote:

 

Dear listers

I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs
flying around and I've read a few but by no means all so apols if this has
been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that
is Talking Goggles. I can't recall how much it is but it's certainly no more
than a few dollars (if not free) - I can't check as I already own it - and
it's certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become,
and yet I use it all the time to great effect.

I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half
way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I
thought I'd try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE
having stopped working and the Send/Don't send thing. I know I could have
got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even
hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.

And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it's
live video it's processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it's not perfect but I also know
that it's invaluable and doesn't have the drawbacks of either having to take
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be
plenty of pounds) for it either.

I should end by saying that I'm not as familiar with the other apps as I am
with this one so please don't consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just
a pro-Talking Goggles one.

Thanks, Robin.

 

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RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-12 Thread Don and Cher Bosch
With the right-hand button set to 'still camera' , the button to the left
says 'stop' for me.

 

Also, why do you hear gibberish in the background- perhaps another language?

 

Cher

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

You need to set it so that the right=hand button says "Still camera" which
means that it's in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say
Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which
says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a
huge choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France
so the items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.

 

The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold the
iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top
right-hand corner of the back of the iPhone.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

 

On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:





Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can't get
anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects
found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is
the video part of this to do?  Andy

 

From: Anne Robertson <mailto:annefromo...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM

To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Hello Robin,

 

I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food,
but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.

 

Cheers,

 

Anne

 

 

On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson
 wrote:





Dear listers

I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs
flying around and I've read a few but by no means all so apols if this has
been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that
is Talking Goggles. I can't recall how much it is but it's certainly no more
than a few dollars (if not free) - I can't check as I already own it - and
it's certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become,
and yet I use it all the time to great effect.

I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half
way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I
thought I'd try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE
having stopped working and the Send/Don't send thing. I know I could have
got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even
hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.

And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it's
live video it's processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it's not perfect but I also know
that it's invaluable and doesn't have the drawbacks of either having to take
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be
plenty of pounds) for it either.

I should end by saying that I'm not as familiar with the other apps as I am
with this one so please don't consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just
a pro-Talking Goggles one.

Thanks, Robin.

 

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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi:
I use TapTapSee. I haven't had any luck with Goggles.
On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Kellie and my lab pack  
wrote:

> I would appreciate tips on successfully using talking goggles as well. I have 
> heard of others success but haven’t achieved it myself. I tried both the 
> video and still camera mode and get nothing. I try holding the phone steady 
> and still receive no feedback. I really would like to have success with this 
> app but any tips on how to get it to even speak would be helpful. I have 
> tried waiting for 30 seconds and don’t have a sound. I know for sure that it 
> was pointed at text. 
> 
> Kellie, Guide Loki and retired July
> 
> From: Sieghard Weitzel 
> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:59 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> 
> 
> Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then 
> using Tap Tap See.
> 
> 
> 
> I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on 
> the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in 
> the same position for both shots
> 
> 
> 
> The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine 
> which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the 
> Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a 
> variety of grape which produces red wine.
> 
> 
> 
> When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information, 
> some of it was spelled, but it included “Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon”.
> 
> 
> 
> When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was “Jackson-Triggs”.
> 
> 
> 
> What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2 
> seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality 
> it appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically 
> immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long 
> time compared to Talking Goggles.
> 
> 
> 
> I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on 
> WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as 
> in plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship 
> certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation 
> certificate etc.
> 
> 
> 
> Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking Goggles 
> in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for me to know 
> what they were.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> David Chittenden
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> 
> 
> Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.
> 
> 
> 
> VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
> ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It 
> is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if 
> it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
> identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
> However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries 
> do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers 
> are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have 
> a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
> available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
> query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
> immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have 
> not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
> VizWiz first because I can ask the question.
> 
> 
> 
> For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
> accurate, and no data is sent.
> 
> 
> 
> For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
> I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures 
> for my database.
> 
> 
> 
> In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
> initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my 
> decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew 
> the company was paying for every image, I did n

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Kellie and my lab pack
I would appreciate tips on successfully using talking goggles as well. I have 
heard of others success but haven’t achieved it myself. I tried both the video 
and still camera mode and get nothing. I try holding the phone steady and still 
receive no feedback. I really would like to have success with this app but any 
tips on how to get it to even speak would be helpful. I have tried waiting for 
30 seconds and don’t have a sound. I know for sure that it was pointed at text. 

Kellie, Guide Loki and retired July

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

Hi David,

 

Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then 
using Tap Tap See.

 

I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on the 
iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in the 
same position for both shots

 

The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine 
which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the 
Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a 
variety of grape which produces red wine.

 

When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information, 
some of it was spelled, but it included “Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon”.

 

When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was “Jackson-Triggs”.

 

What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2 seconds, 
the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality it appeared 
as if Talking goggles started reading information basically immediately after I 
took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long time compared to Talking 
Goggles.

 

I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on 
WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as in 
plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship 
certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation 
certificate etc.

 

Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking Goggles 
in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for me to know 
what they were.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.

 

VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to ask 
a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is a 
free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it can 
get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for identification. 
And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. However, because it 
accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do not have priority 
when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are just that, people who 
are doing other things on their computers and have a window that pops up with 
your image and your question. If no volunteers are available, or if there are 
too many images waiting for identification, your query will take a considerable 
amount of time. I have gotten responses back immediately, and I have gotten 
responses back in a few minutes, and I have not gotten responses back at all. 
When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the 
question.

 

For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.

 

For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, I 
use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.

 

In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.

 

With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

 

When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.

 

When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again a

RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Pablo,

 

There are only 5 buttons in the app, The 2 at the top are obvious, Flash and
Language, at the bottom is Gallery, the Take Picture/Start Recording button
depending as to whether you have the app set to take still photos or video
and the last btton on the bottom right controls camera mode, i.e. video or
still pictures.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

how do you know witch button, or what is each thing on that app. I am
getting a lot of problems trying to guess what does each thing on this app.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 5:59 AM

Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Hi David,

 

Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then
using Tap Tap See.

 

I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on
the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in
the same position for both shots

 

The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine
which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the
Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a
variety of grape which produces red wine.

 

When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information,
some of it was spelled, but it included "Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon".

 

When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was "Jackson-Triggs".

 

What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2
seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality
it appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically
immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long
time compared to Talking Goggles.

 

I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on
WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as
in plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship
certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation
certificate etc.

 

Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking
Goggles in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for
me to know what they were.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your
costs.

 

VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It
is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see
if it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do.
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries
do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers
are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have
a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers
are available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification,
your query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses
back immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I
have not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I
usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the question.

 

For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast,
accurate, and no data is sent.

 

For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for,
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures
for my database.

 

In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my
decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew
the company was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the
burden on the company when I could get alternative solutions to work.
Second, I have always preferred asking the question because, the information
I need is not necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I
need.

 

With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

 

When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product
is general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives m

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Pablo Morales
how do you know witch button, or what is each thing on that app. I am getting a 
lot of problems trying to guess what does each thing on this app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 5:59 AM
  Subject: RE: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi David,

   

  Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then 
using Tap Tap See.

   

  I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on 
the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in 
the same position for both shots

   

  The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine 
which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the 
Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a 
variety of grape which produces red wine.

   

  When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information, 
some of it was spelled, but it included "Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon".

   

  When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was "Jackson-Triggs".

   

  What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2 
seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality it 
appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically 
immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long time 
compared to Talking Goggles.

   

  I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on 
WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as in 
plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship 
certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation 
certificate etc.

   

  Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking Goggles 
in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for me to know 
what they were.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
David Chittenden
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

   

  Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.

   

  VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is 
a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it 
can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do 
not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are 
just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have a 
window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have not 
gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
VizWiz first because I can ask the question.

   

  For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.

   

  For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.

   

  In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.

   

  With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

   

  When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.

   

  When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any 
time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
  On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

so tab tab see still is the better then.

 

  - Original Message - 


RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What is a "terrist"?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Troy Sullivan
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

About viz wiz, I sent a picture of myself to them just to test it out and
asked them what the image was. I got a response from a web worker saying
image of the terrist, no joke, made me wonder if they were just giving me a
smart elic answer just to blow me off, I am a human beeing, not a terrist.

- Original Message - 

From: David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 PM

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your
costs.

 

VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It
is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see
if it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do.
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries
do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers
are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have
a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers
are available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification,
your query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses
back immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I
have not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I
usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the question.

 

For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast,
accurate, and no data is sent.

 

For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for,
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures
for my database.

 

In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my
decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew
the company was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the
burden on the company when I could get alternative solutions to work.
Second, I have always preferred asking the question because, the information
I need is not necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I
need.

 

With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

 

When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product
is general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price
information.

 

When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the
video stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen
again at any time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

so tab tab see still is the better then.

 

- Original Message - 

From: David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written
for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads
that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so
you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to
work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much
effort into accessibility.

 

All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I have
received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, I
usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up
my mobile data allotment for the month.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The
buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label,
and I don't know how understand this app.

- Original Message - 

From: Anthony Vece <mailto:ajv...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Hi Anne and List;

 

I just installed Talking Goggles.

 

If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.

 

So, that's exac

RE: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-09 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi David,

 

Here is just one example using Talking Goggles in Still Camera mode and then
using Tap Tap See.

 

I took the pictures in the complete dark, no lights other than my Flash on
the iPhone 5S and I was doing the same picture holding the iPhone approx. in
the same position for both shots

 

The object was a 4 Litre pack of Jackson-Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon red wine
which I just bought where Jackson-Triggs is the name of the winery in the
Okanagan Valley of southern British Columbia and Cabermet Sauvignon is a
variety of grape which produces red wine.

 

When I took the picture with Talking goggles it red a bunch of information,
some of it was spelled, but it included "Jackson Triggs Cabernet Sauvignon".

 

When I took the picture with Tap Tap See all it said was "Jackson-Triggs".

 

What is more, the result from Talking Goggles came back after about 2
seconds, the result from Tap Tap See took about 8 or 10 seconds. In reality
it appeared as if Talking goggles started reading information basically
immediately after I took the picture. Tap Tap See appeared to take a long
time compared to Talking Goggles.

 

I also used Talking Goggles recently in video mode when I was at home and on
WiFi to go over about 8 or 10 pages of various documents including cards as
in plastic cards similar to credit cards as well as my Canadian citizenship
certificate, my HSA Open Water Scuba certificate, my University graduation
certificate etc.

 

Tap Tap See produced almost nothing for most of these whereas Talking
Goggles in video mode identified enough words of any of the documentsv for
me to know what they were.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your
costs.

 

VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It
is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see
if it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do.
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries
do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers
are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have
a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers
are available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification,
your query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses
back immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I
have not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I
usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the question.

 

For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast,
accurate, and no data is sent.

 

For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for,
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures
for my database.

 

In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my
decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew
the company was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the
burden on the company when I could get alternative solutions to work.
Second, I have always preferred asking the question because, the information
I need is not necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I
need.

 

With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

 

When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product
is general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price
information.

 

When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the
video stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen
again at any time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:

so tab tab see still is the better then.

 

- Original Message - 

From: David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM

Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

 

What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written
for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads
that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so
you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual picture

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Joanne Chua
>From Apple iTunes Appstore...

Talking Goggles - a camera with speechBy Sparkling AppsView More By
This Developer Open iTunes to buy and download apps.

.Description
Talking Goggles can recognize images and speaks out what it finds.
- Recognizes almost any image within seconds. Logos, landmarks, books,
products, artwork, text and more..
- Shows the description of the image and speaks it out to you.
- Speaks it out using the correct accent of your selected language.
- Includes a torchlight to assist in reading.
- Video mode. Talking Goggles will continuously check the video stream
for any familiar images, and will present it and speak it out when it
finds something.
- Easy copy function. Use goggles as a scanner/translator and use the
results in any other application.
- Look up more details on the image found by doing a direct search.
Or, if it is a product, check where it is available nearby, and show a
price comparison.

Don't know the name of that actor on that poster? Just point your
camera at it and Talking Goggles will tell you!

Want to find out if that product is really the cheapest around? Take a
picture and let Talking Goggles do a comparison for you.

Point Talking Goggles at a logo, and you will be told the name of the
company after which you can do a search for it.

Talking Goggles is particularly good at recognizing book covers and
posters. Try it out!

Reviews are very positive so far:

'This amazing application costs just $0.99 and is a masterpiece and
could be a new trend.'

'You really need to try the app to see exactly how good it is.'

'This app worked well and quickly. I took a photo of a few products
from my cupboard and it identified them immediately, and offered
access to the internet to learn more.'

'I then turned the can a bit and it started recognizing bits of text from
nutritional information and all sort of stuff. I pointed my phone into the
fridge and it told me I had Tropicana Orange Juice, I turned it a bit and here
was Lucern Milk. astounding.'

Talking Goggles gives you amazing possibilities. We are constantly
improving the app further, please contact us on
supp...@sparklingapps.com for any comments or suggestions.

In another note, there is no mention that is purpose build app to
assist the blind. So use that Voiceover works fine with it, and so use
that it have build in speech option. If it is an app that is purpose
build for the blind, like Tap Tap See, i wonder, the developer will
charge $0.99 for the pro version of the app, or will charge $19.99 or
even more.

On 09/11/2013, Troy Sullivan  wrote:
> About viz wiz, I sent a picture of myself to them just to test it out and
> asked them what the image was. I got a response from a web worker saying
> image of the terrist, no joke, made me wonder if they were just giving me a
> smart elic answer just to blow me off, I am a human beeing, not a terrist.
>   - Original Message -
>   From: David Chittenden
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 PM
>   Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
>
>
>   Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your
> costs.
>
>
>   VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to
> ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It
> is a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see
> if it can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for
> identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do.
> However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries
> do not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers
> are just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have
> a window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers
> are available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification,
> your query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses
> back immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I
> have not gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I
> usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the question.
>
>
>   For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast,
> accurate, and no data is sent.
>
>
>   For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images
> for, I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take
> pictures for my database.
>
>
>   In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when
> it initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my
> decision. First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew
> the company was paying for every ima

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Troy Sullivan
About viz wiz, I sent a picture of myself to them just to test it out and asked 
them what the image was. I got a response from a web worker saying image of the 
terrist, no joke, made me wonder if they were just giving me a smart elic 
answer just to blow me off, I am a human beeing, not a terrist.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.


  VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is 
a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it 
can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do 
not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are 
just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have a 
window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have not 
gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
VizWiz first because I can ask the question.


  For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.


  For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.


  In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.


  With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.


  When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.


  When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any 
time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
  On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:


so tab tab see still is the better then.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is 
written for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from 
ads that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so 
you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to 
work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much 
effort into accessibility.


  All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I 
have received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, 
I usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
mobile data allotment for the month.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:


well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. 
The buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, 
and I don't know how understand this app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
      Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi Anne and List;


  I just installed Talking Goggles.


  If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.


  So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.


  Anthony


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

  On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  
wrote:


Hello Robin

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread David Chittenden
Talking Goggles is targeted toward sighted people who want to quickly know 
information about products / images. It is also targeted for language 
translation for written languages.

The App Store description says absolutely nothing about blind people. It says 
the app can identify corporate logos on objects, faces of famous people in 
posters and pictures, tell you what an object is, how much it costs, and where 
you can order it from if you want it (so an example I can think of is a tool 
that you see someone using and realize would be useful for you), and translate 
text that is in another language. To do the translation, the app's support 
infrastructure first needs to OCR the text.

No, the company has no focus whatsoever on blind people.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:37, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> No, so this app is oriented to who?
> an app who recognize object is oriented to who?
> Maybe I have a wrong idea about the functionality of this app, but I 
> understand that this app recognize objects, like tab tab see. But maybe I am 
> wrong.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: David Chittenden
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:45 PM
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> No, Goggles is not developed for blind people.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:44, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to set it so that the right=hand button says “Still camera” which 
>> means that it’s in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say 
>> Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which 
>> says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a 
>> huge choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France 
>> so the items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.
>> 
>> The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold the 
>> iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top 
>> right-hand corner of the back of the iPhone.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can’t get 
>>> anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects 
>>> found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is 
>>> the video part of this to do?  Andy
>>>  
>>> From: Anne Robertson
>>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM
>>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
>>>  
>>> Hello Robin,
>>>  
>>> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
>>> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
>>> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
>>> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>>>  
>>> Cheers,
>>>  
>>> Anne
>>>  
>>>  
>>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Dear listers
>>>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
>>>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>>>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app 
>>>> that is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly 
>>>> no more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own 
>>>> it – and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See 
>>>> has become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>>>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>>>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all 
>>>> half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button 
>>>> I thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about 
>>>> IE having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could 
>>>> have got out of this by trial and error with some  keystrokes but 
>>>> I knew that even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad 
>>>> ne

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread David Chittenden
Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.

VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to ask 
a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is a 
free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it can 
get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for identification. 
And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. However, because it 
accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do not have priority 
when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are just that, people who 
are doing other things on their computers and have a window that pops up with 
your image and your question. If no volunteers are available, or if there are 
too many images waiting for identification, your query will take a considerable 
amount of time. I have gotten responses back immediately, and I have gotten 
responses back in a few minutes, and I have not gotten responses back at all. 
When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try VizWiz first because I can ask the 
question.

For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.

For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, I 
use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.

In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.

With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.

When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.

When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any 
time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
> On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> so tab tab see still is the better then.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: David Chittenden
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written 
> for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads 
> that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so 
> you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to 
> work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much 
> effort into accessibility.
> 
> All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I have 
> received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, I 
> usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
> mobile data allotment for the month.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
>> 
>> well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The 
>> buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, 
>> and I don't know how understand this app.
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: Anthony Vece
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
>> 
>> Hi Anne and List;
>> 
>> I just installed Talking Goggles.
>> 
>> If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.
>> 
>> So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.
>> 
>> Anthony
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
>> 
>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Robin,
>>> 
>>> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
>>> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
>>> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
>>> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>>> 
>&

Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Pablo Morales
so tab tab see still is the better then.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written 
for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads 
that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so you 
need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to work 
with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much effort 
into accessibility.


  All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I have 
received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, I 
usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
mobile data allotment for the month.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:


well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The 
buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, and I 
don't know how understand this app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
      Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi Anne and List;


  I just installed Talking Goggles.


  If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.


  So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.


  Anthony


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

  On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Robin,


I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other 
object recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles 
is more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


Cheers,


Anne




On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


  Dear listers
  I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  
msgs flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
  I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my 
computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all 
half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got 
out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
  And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as 
it’s live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also 
know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to 
take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that 
be plenty of pounds) for it either.
  I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps 
as I am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, 
just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
  Thanks, Robin.


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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Pablo Morales
No, so this app is oriented to who?
an app who recognize object is oriented to who?
Maybe I have a wrong idea about the functionality of this app, but I understand 
that this app recognize objects, like tab tab see. But maybe I am wrong.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:45 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  No, Goggles is not developed for blind people.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:44, Anne Robertson  wrote:


You need to set it so that the right=hand button says “Still camera” which 
means that it’s in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say 
Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which 
says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a huge 
choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France so the 
items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.


The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold 
the iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top 
right-hand corner of the back of the iPhone.


Cheers,


Anne






On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:


  Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can’t get 
anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects 
found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is the 
video part of this to do?  Andy

  From: Anne Robertson 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM
  To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

  Hello Robin,

  I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.

  Cheers,

  Anne


  On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


Dear listers
I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  
msgs flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my 
computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all 
half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got 
out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as 
it’s live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also 
know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to 
take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that 
be plenty of pounds) for it either.
I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as 
I am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, 
just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
Thanks, Robin.

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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread David Chittenden
No, Goggles is not developed for blind people.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:44, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> You need to set it so that the right=hand button says “Still camera” which 
> means that it’s in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say 
> Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which 
> says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a 
> huge choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France 
> so the items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.
> 
> The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold the 
> iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top 
> right-hand corner of the back of the iPhone.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can’t get 
>> anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects 
>> found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is 
>> the video part of this to do?  Andy
>>  
>> From: Anne Robertson
>> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM
>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
>>  
>> Hello Robin,
>>  
>> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
>> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
>> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
>> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> Anne
>>  
>>  
>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear listers
>>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
>>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
>>> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no 
>>> more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – 
>>> and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has 
>>> become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
>>> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
>>> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
>>> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have 
>>> got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that 
>>> even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
>>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
>>> usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I 
>>> also know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either 
>>> having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or 
>>> should that be plenty of pounds) for it either.
>>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
>>> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
>>> a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>>> Thanks, Robin.
>>>  
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread David Chittenden
What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is written for 
a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from ads that 
are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so you need 
a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to work with 
this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much effort into 
accessibility.

All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I have 
received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, I 
usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
mobile data allotment for the month.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The 
> buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, and 
> I don't know how understand this app.
> - Original Message -
> From: Anthony Vece
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> Hi Anne and List;
> 
> I just installed Talking Goggles.
> 
> If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.
> 
> So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.
> 
> Anthony
> 
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Robin,
>> 
>> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
>> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
>> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
>> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dear listers
>>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
>>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
>>> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no 
>>> more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – 
>>> and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has 
>>> become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
>>> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
>>> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
>>> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have 
>>> got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that 
>>> even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
>>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it 
>>> usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I 
>>> also know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either 
>>> having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or 
>>> should that be plenty of pounds) for it either.
>>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
>>> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
>>> a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>>> Thanks, Robin.
>>> 
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Anne Robertson
You need to set it so that the right=hand button says “Still camera” which 
means that it’s in video mode. The button to the left of that will now say 
Record or Stop. Further to the left is the Change language now button which 
says EN for English. If you tap the Change language now button you have a huge 
choice of languages. I mainly use mine in French since I live in France so the 
items I wish to recognise are labelled in French.

The bigger the object you want to recognise, the further you should hold the 
iPhone away from the object. Remember that the camera is in the top right-hand 
corner of the back of the iPhone.

Cheers,

Anne



On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:40, Andrew J. LaPointe  wrote:

> Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can’t get 
> anything to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects 
> found.  I took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is 
> the video part of this to do?  Andy
>  
> From: Anne Robertson
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
>  
> Hello Robin,
>  
> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
>  
> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers
>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
>> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more 
>> than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
>> it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, 
>> and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
>> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
>> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
>> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have 
>> got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
>> hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
>> reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
>> that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
>> multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
>> plenty of pounds) for it either.
>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
>> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
>> a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>> Thanks, Robin.
>>  
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Pablo Morales
I don't understand this app. It has labels swith out name or description, other 
has weird names, and it is funny, because this app is for blind people, I 
guess. Even though, google never has been very interested in accessibility.
I still think that tab tab see is much better, because it is very easy to use, 
very logic, and it is fully accessible with voice over.
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  From: Tom Lange 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:36 AM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi,
  What's your technique for getting good results from Goggles?  Mine hasn't 
worked well in quite some time, and I'm using an iPhone 5S.

  Thanks,
  Tom

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From: Anne Robertson 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 AM
    Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


Hello Robin,


I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


Cheers,


Anne




On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


  Dear listers
  I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been 
covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
  I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way 
through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I’d 
try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped 
working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got out of this by 
trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the 
wrong thing could have been bad news.
  And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
  I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I 
am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
a pro-Talking Goggles one.
  Thanks, Robin.


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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Pablo Morales
well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. The 
buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, and I 
don't know how understand this app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi Anne and List;


  I just installed Talking Goggles.


  If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.


  So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.


  Anthony


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

  On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:


Hello Robin,


I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


Cheers,


Anne




On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


  Dear listers
  I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been 
covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
  I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way 
through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I’d 
try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped 
working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got out of this by 
trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the 
wrong thing could have been bad news.
  And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
  I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I 
am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
a pro-Talking Goggles one.
  Thanks, Robin.


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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Anthony Vece
Hi Anne and List;

I just installed Talking Goggles.

If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.

So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.

Anthony


Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Robin,
> 
> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear listers
>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind   msgs 
>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
>> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more 
>> than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
>> it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, 
>> and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
>> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
>> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
>> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have 
>> got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
>> hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
>> reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
>> that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
>> multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
>> plenty of pounds) for it either.
>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
>> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
>> a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>> Thanks, Robin.
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Kay Malmquist
I would love to know how you use talking goggles.  I have tried it and can 
only get it to spew a few words here and there that are completely 
irrelevant and can not get it to do what it claims.  Any help would be 
appreciated.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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  From: Anne Robertson
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:23 AM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hello Robin,


  I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


  Cheers,


  Anne




  On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


Dear listers
I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more 
than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, 
and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my 
computer stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and 
all half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power 
button I thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message 
about IE having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I 
could have got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I 
knew that even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I 
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just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
Thanks, Robin.


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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi I just downloaded talking goggles to my 4s os7 IPhone and can’t get anything 
to be recognized.  It keeps saying that there are no close objects found.  I 
took a pic of my monitor, window and other things.  Also, what is the video 
part of this to do?  Andy

From: Anne Robertson 
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

Hello Robin,

I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson  
wrote:


  Dear listers
  I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been 
covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
  I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way 
through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I’d 
try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped 
working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got out of this by 
trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the 
wrong thing could have been bad news.
  And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
  I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just a 
pro-Talking Goggles one.
  Thanks, Robin.

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The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Robin Christopherson
Dear listers

I agree with Anne that you get best results in good natural light. The camera 
on the 5S is the best of the bunch so that might be helping too, but I assume 
that it also has the drawback that, because we’re talking about using it in 
live video mode, you do need massive bandwidth to get very responsive feedback 
on the thing you are pointing it at.

As for distances – it works on CDs, letters, shop hoardings and even buildings 
(it recognised the Girkin in London which was hundreds of yards away) so 
distance obviously varies. I am not sure myself but I imagine that holding it 
closer than a handspan away would crop part of an A4 sheet, say, but would 
comfortably get a whole CD case in view (if you centre the camera aperture on 
the middle of the object of course.

Oh, one last thing back on bandwidth – I have 100 megabits per second here at 
home (probably the router maxes out before that ceiling thinking about it) so 
this may be why I love it so much at home, but I also do plenty of public 
speaking and always but always demo Talking Goggles and with semi-decent wifi 
connectivity it always works with a few seconds delay. I should also say that I 
have been demoing it long before I got my 5S.

So to sum up – good lighting, good bandwidth, a steady hand (if bandwidth is 
limited then the hand will have to be even steadier I would imagine) and some 
skill at pointing it straight at the object in question. Oh, and plenty of luck.

Hope that helps, Robin.

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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Anne Robertson
I use it in video mode and you have to be a bit patient. Also, good lighting 
helps. I have an iPhone 5.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:32, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi.
> Is it as a still camera or as the video. I have a 4s and I does not
> get as good results as I usually get with taptapsee.
> Best regards, Jesper.
> 
> On 11/8/13, Anne Robertson  wrote:
>> Hello Robin,
>> 
>> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object
>> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is
>> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food,
>> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear listers
>>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs
>>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has
>>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app
>>> that is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly
>>> no more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own
>>> it – and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See
>>> has become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer
>>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all
>>> half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button
>>> I thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about
>>> IE having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could
>>> have got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew
>>> that even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s
>>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it
>>> usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I
>>> also know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either
>>> having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks
>>> (or should that be plenty of pounds) for it either.
>>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I
>>> am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg,
>>> just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>>> Thanks, Robin.
>>> 
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Anne Robertson
I use it in video mode and stand near a window when trying to identify 
something. I have an iPhone 5.

Cheers,

Anne


On 8 Nov 2013, at 14:36, Tom Lange  wrote:

> Hi,
> What's your technique for getting good results from Goggles?  Mine hasn't 
> worked well in quite some time, and I'm using an iPhone 5S.
>  
> Thanks,
> Tom
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Anne Robertson
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 AM
> Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know
> 
> Hello Robin,
> 
> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, 
> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers
>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has 
>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
>> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more 
>> than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
>> it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, 
>> and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
>> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
>> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
>> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have 
>> got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
>> hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
>> reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
>> that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
>> multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
>> plenty of pounds) for it either.
>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
>> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just 
>> a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>> Thanks, Robin.
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Tom Lange
Hi,
What's your technique for getting good results from Goggles?  Mine hasn't 
worked well in quite some time, and I'm using an iPhone 5S.

Thanks,
Tom

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 4:23 AM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hello Robin,


  I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.


  Cheers,


  Anne




  On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson 
 wrote:


Dear listers
I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been 
covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way 
through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I’d 
try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped 
working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got out of this by 
trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the 
wrong thing could have been bad news.
And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just a 
pro-Talking Goggles one.
Thanks, Robin.


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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Jesper Holten
Hi.
Is it as a still camera or as the video. I have a 4s and I does not
get as good results as I usually get with taptapsee.
Best regards, Jesper.

On 11/8/13, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> Hello Robin,
>
> I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object
> recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is
> more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food,
> but Talking Goggles will tell me which variety it is.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
>
> On 8 Nov 2013, at 13:16, Robin Christopherson
>  wrote:
>
>> Dear listers
>> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs
>> flying around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has
>> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app
>> that is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly
>> no more than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own
>> it – and it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See
>> has become, and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
>> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer
>> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all
>> half way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button
>> I thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about
>> IE having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could
>> have got out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew
>> that even hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
>> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s
>> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it
>> usually reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I
>> also know that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either
>> having to take multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks
>> (or should that be plenty of pounds) for it either.
>> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I
>> am with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg,
>> just a pro-Talking Goggles one.
>> Thanks, Robin.
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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Robin,

I do so agree with you. I use Talking Goggles more than any other object 
recognition app. I also use Tap Tap See and CamFind, but Talking Goggles is 
more informative. For instance, TapTapSee will identify a can of dog food, but 
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Cheers,

Anne


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> I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs 
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> been covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that 
> is Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more 
> than a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and 
> it’s certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, 
> and yet I use it all the time to great effect.
> I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
> stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half 
> way through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I 
> thought I’d try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE 
> having stopped working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got 
> out of this by trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even 
> hitting Escape on the wrong thing could have been bad news.
> And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s 
> live video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually 
> reads it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know 
> that it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
> multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
> plenty of pounds) for it either.
> I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
> with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just a 
> pro-Talking Goggles one.
> Thanks, Robin.
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The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Robin Christopherson
Dear listers
I have seen that there have been dozens of Tap Tap See and Camfind  msgs flying 
around and I’ve read a few but by no means all so apols if this has been 
covered but I just want to reiterate the jawdroppingly useful app that is 
Talking Goggles. I can’t recall how much it is but it’s certainly no more than 
a few dollars (if not free) – I can’t check as I already own it – and it’s 
certainly nowhere near X dollars a month that Tap Tap See has become, and yet I 
use it all the time to great effect.
I have a 5S so admittedly a good camera but only this morning my computer 
stopped talking to me while I had about 10 different apps open and all half way 
through something and before I went nuclear with the power button I thought I’d 
try Talking Goggles and it read out to me the message about IE having stopped 
working and the Send/Don’t send thing. I know I could have got out of this by 
trial and error with some keystrokes but I knew that even hitting Escape on the 
wrong thing could have been bad news.
And this is just one example. So long as you have good bandwidth (as it’s live 
video it’s processing) you can just point it at anything and it usually reads 
it or recognises it just fine. I know it’s not perfect but I also know that 
it’s invaluable and doesn’t have the drawbacks of either having to take 
multiple snap and hope images or having to pay big bucks (or should that be 
plenty of pounds) for it either.
I should end by saying that I’m not as familiar with the other apps as I am 
with this one so please don’t consider this as an anti-the-others msg, just a 
pro-Talking Goggles one.
Thanks, Robin.

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