RE: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-18 Thread Carolyn Arnold
It sounds like the something about nights and the end thing plural of 
something. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 1:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?

Das hatte ich auch gedacht, wollte aber nichts mehr dazu sagen! Ask your wife 
if you don't understand it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?

HAHAHA! Wow... Holy smokes. Miao...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Sieghard, I'm informed on  jail breaking for several years, in reading the 
technology articles about the phones. Infact way before I got my first iphone 
last year, december of 2017. Just like you and many others I stay informed and 
read. I'm well aware, for several years now, the implications and the drawbacks 
of  using such apps which personally, I would never do with my phone, nor would 
I be interested in going to that extent. I was quite sure, that he wasn't 
interested in knowing about the method of sending a text message from a 
computer to a phone, of which chances are he's probably already informed of 
sending a message that way. I thought I would just mention that in case he 
hadn't considered that. Though again, I was completely sure that wasn't the 
answer he was looking for and I did acknowledge that in my message. and your 
answer may be to inform me again, that he didn't mention that, or that a jail 
breaking app and the method of sending a text from a computer by email to a 
phone are 2 different things of which they are, and you may have other 
responses to go along with that. We could go on and on this way, which is 
nothing I care to pursue.  So once more, Sieghard,  since I can't read his 
mind, I just thought I would mention it to him, in case that was something he 
hadn't considered, and yes, I know that's not what he asked for. There are 
times when people take the time to answer a question which won't be a direct 
answer to your question, but just a possible thought of another way to do 
something. The person receiving that answer  to their question which may not be 
a direct answer to what they are looking to find out, it's up to them whether 
it's something they wish to consider or respond too in what it means to them.  
Point blank if it's not the answer they are looking for they don't have to 
respond to that  answer. 
All this explaination isn't totally necessary, but I felt it was needed this 
time, to suggest to you, that leaving it up to the person that asked the 
question, whether they respond or not of which they don't need to respond to 
everyone that gave an answer. I appreciate your safeguarding to be so very 
supportive and speaking on behalf for someone's  question being missunderstood, 
thank you for taking  the time and heart to care that much, but they can 
respond or not respond as to if the answer means anything to them on their own. 
If that's not the answer they are looking for either they won't respond, or the 
person that asked the question will tell  you themselves that wasn't  what they 
were looking for or they might even thank you for reminding them of whatever 
the possibility was that was mentioned with the other way of doing something. I 
appreciate how you help many of us 
here on the list of which you are very diligent about.   You're not alone 
with caring very much about helping others, and answering questions, of which 
that is what this list and other lists are about, helping one another.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?


Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's app 
store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the iOS 
operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing most of 
the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a jailbroken phone 
can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of the 
things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there is a 
lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community figures 
out how to circumvent these securities and they release another 

RE: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-18 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
As you guys would say . . . Ach du scheisse! Ich auch nicht...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?

Das hatte ich auch gedacht, wollte aber nichts mehr dazu sagen! Ask your wife 
if you don't understand it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?

HAHAHA! Wow... Holy smokes. Miao...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Sieghard, I'm informed on  jail breaking for several years, in reading the 
technology articles about the phones. Infact way before I got my first iphone 
last year, december of 2017. Just like you and many others I stay informed and 
read. I'm well aware, for several years now, the implications and the drawbacks 
of  using such apps which personally, I would never do with my phone, nor would 
I be interested in going to that extent. I was quite sure, that he wasn't 
interested in knowing about the method of sending a text message from a 
computer to a phone, of which chances are he's probably already informed of 
sending a message that way. I thought I would just mention that in case he 
hadn't considered that. Though again, I was completely sure that wasn't the 
answer he was looking for and I did acknowledge that in my message. and your 
answer may be to inform me again, that he didn't mention that, or that a jail 
breaking app and the method of sending a text from a computer by email to a 
phone are 2 different things of which they are, and you may have other 
responses to go along with that. We could go on and on this way, which is 
nothing I care to pursue.  So once more, Sieghard,  since I can't read his 
mind, I just thought I would mention it to him, in case that was something he 
hadn't considered, and yes, I know that's not what he asked for. There are 
times when people take the time to answer a question which won't be a direct 
answer to your question, but just a possible thought of another way to do 
something. The person receiving that answer  to their question which may not be 
a direct answer to what they are looking to find out, it's up to them whether 
it's something they wish to consider or respond too in what it means to them.  
Point blank if it's not the answer they are looking for they don't have to 
respond to that  answer. 
All this explaination isn't totally necessary, but I felt it was needed this 
time, to suggest to you, that leaving it up to the person that asked the 
question, whether they respond or not of which they don't need to respond to 
everyone that gave an answer. I appreciate your safeguarding to be so very 
supportive and speaking on behalf for someone's  question being missunderstood, 
thank you for taking  the time and heart to care that much, but they can 
respond or not respond as to if the answer means anything to them on their own. 
If that's not the answer they are looking for either they won't respond, or the 
person that asked the question will tell  you themselves that wasn't  what they 
were looking for or they might even thank you for reminding them of whatever 
the possibility was that was mentioned with the other way of doing something. I 
appreciate how you help many of us 
here on the list of which you are very diligent about.   You're not alone 
with caring very much about helping others, and answering questions, of which 
that is what this list and other lists are about, helping one another.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?


Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's app 
store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the iOS 
operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing most of 
the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a jailbroken phone 
can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of the 
things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there is a 
lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community figures 
out how to circumvent these securities and they release another jailbreak. Then 
Apple releases a software update again preventing the phone from being 
j

RE: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Das hatte ich auch gedacht, wollte aber nichts mehr dazu sagen! Ask your wife 
if you don't understand it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristobal Muñoz
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 10:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?

HAHAHA! Wow... Holy smokes. Miao...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Sieghard, I'm informed on  jail breaking for several years, in reading the 
technology articles about the phones. Infact way before I got my first iphone 
last year, december of 2017. Just like you and many others I stay informed and 
read. I'm well aware, for several years now, the implications and the drawbacks 
of  using such apps which personally, I would never do with my phone, nor would 
I be interested in going to that extent. I was quite sure, that he wasn't 
interested in knowing about the method of sending a text message from a 
computer to a phone, of which chances are he's probably already informed of 
sending a message that way. I thought I would just mention that in case he 
hadn't considered that. Though again, I was completely sure that wasn't the 
answer he was looking for and I did acknowledge that in my message. and your 
answer may be to inform me again, that he didn't mention that, or that a jail 
breaking app and the method of sending a text from a computer by email to a 
phone are 2 different things of which they are, and you may have other 
responses to go along with that. We could go on and on this way, which is 
nothing I care to pursue.  So once more, Sieghard,  since I can't read his 
mind, I just thought I would mention it to him, in case that was something he 
hadn't considered, and yes, I know that's not what he asked for. There are 
times when people take the time to answer a question which won't be a direct 
answer to your question, but just a possible thought of another way to do 
something. The person receiving that answer  to their question which may not be 
a direct answer to what they are looking to find out, it's up to them whether 
it's something they wish to consider or respond too in what it means to them.  
Point blank if it's not the answer they are looking for they don't have to 
respond to that  answer. 
All this explaination isn't totally necessary, but I felt it was needed this 
time, to suggest to you, that leaving it up to the person that asked the 
question, whether they respond or not of which they don't need to respond to 
everyone that gave an answer. I appreciate your safeguarding to be so very 
supportive and speaking on behalf for someone's  question being missunderstood, 
thank you for taking  the time and heart to care that much, but they can 
respond or not respond as to if the answer means anything to them on their own. 
If that's not the answer they are looking for either they won't respond, or the 
person that asked the question will tell  you themselves that wasn't  what they 
were looking for or they might even thank you for reminding them of whatever 
the possibility was that was mentioned with the other way of doing something. I 
appreciate how you help many of us 
here on the list of which you are very diligent about.   You're not alone 
with caring very much about helping others, and answering questions, of which 
that is what this list and other lists are about, helping one another.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?


Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's app 
store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the iOS 
operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing most of 
the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a jailbroken phone 
can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of the 
things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there is a 
lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community figures 
out how to circumvent these securities and they release another jailbreak. Then 
Apple releases a software update again preventing the phone from being 
jailbroken etc.
It is rare you hear about jailbreaking in the popular media, 6 or 8 years ago 
Podcasts like Today in iOS were full of jailbreaking information.
One thing you of course also do when you jailbreak your phone is that you open 
it up to all s

RE: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-17 Thread Cristobal Muñoz
HAHAHA! Wow... Holy smokes. Miao...

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 3:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Sieghard, I'm informed on  jail breaking for several years, in reading the 
technology articles about the phones. Infact way before I got my first iphone 
last year, december of 2017. Just like you and many others I stay informed and 
read. I'm well aware, for several years now, the implications and the drawbacks 
of  using such apps which personally, I would never do with my phone, nor would 
I be interested in going to that extent. I was quite sure, that he wasn't 
interested in knowing about the method of sending a text message from a 
computer to a phone, of which chances are he's probably already informed of 
sending a message that way. I thought I would just mention that in case he 
hadn't considered that. Though again, I was completely sure that wasn't the 
answer he was looking for and I did acknowledge that in my message. and your 
answer may be to inform me again, that he didn't mention that, or that a jail 
breaking app and the method of sending a text from a computer by email to a 
phone are 2 different things of which they are, and you may have other 
responses to go along with that. We could go on and on this way, which is 
nothing I care to pursue.  So once more, Sieghard,  since I can't read his 
mind, I just thought I would mention it to him, in case that was something he 
hadn't considered, and yes, I know that's not what he asked for. There are 
times when people take the time to answer a question which won't be a direct 
answer to your question, but just a possible thought of another way to do 
something. The person receiving that answer  to their question which may not be 
a direct answer to what they are looking to find out, it's up to them whether 
it's something they wish to consider or respond too in what it means to them.  
Point blank if it's not the answer they are looking for they don't have to 
respond to that  answer. 
All this explaination isn't totally necessary, but I felt it was needed this 
time, to suggest to you, that leaving it up to the person that asked the 
question, whether they respond or not of which they don't need to respond to 
everyone that gave an answer. I appreciate your safeguarding to be so very 
supportive and speaking on behalf for someone's  question being missunderstood, 
thank you for taking  the time and heart to care that much, but they can 
respond or not respond as to if the answer means anything to them on their own. 
If that's not the answer they are looking for either they won't respond, or the 
person that asked the question will tell  you themselves that wasn't  what they 
were looking for or they might even thank you for reminding them of whatever 
the possibility was that was mentioned with the other way of doing something. I 
appreciate how you help many of us 
here on the list of which you are very diligent about.   You're not alone 
with caring very much about helping others, and answering questions, of which 
that is what this list and other lists are about, helping one another.
- Original Message -
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?


Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's app 
store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the iOS 
operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing most of 
the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a jailbroken phone 
can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of the 
things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there is a 
lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community figures 
out how to circumvent these securities and they release another jailbreak. Then 
Apple releases a software update again preventing the phone from being 
jailbroken etc.
It is rare you hear about jailbreaking in the popular media, 6 or 8 years ago 
Podcasts like Today in iOS were full of jailbreaking information.
One thing you of course also do when you jailbreak your phone is that you open 
it up to all sorts of volnerabilities and security risks. Apps you download 
from Sydia could contain malware or other code which may compromise security.

Regards,
Sieghard
installing

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:32 PM
To: viphone

Re: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-17 Thread Arlene
Sieghard, I'm informed on  jail breaking for several years, in reading the 
technology articles about the phones. Infact way before I got my first 
iphone last year, december of 2017. Just like you and many others I stay 
informed and read. I'm well aware, for several years now, the implications 
and the drawbacks of  using such apps which personally, I would never do 
with my phone, nor would I be interested in going to that extent. I was 
quite sure, that he wasn't interested in knowing about the method of sending 
a text message from a computer to a phone, of which chances are he's 
probably already informed of sending a message that way. I thought I would 
just mention that in case he hadn't considered that. Though again, I was 
completely sure that wasn't the answer he was looking for and I did 
acknowledge that in my message. and your answer may be to inform me again, 
that he didn't mention that, or that a jail breaking app and the method of 
sending a text from a computer by email to a phone are 2 different things of 
which they are, and you may have other responses to go along with that. We 
could go on and on this way, which is nothing I care to pursue.  So once 
more, Sieghard,  since I can't read his mind, I just thought I would mention 
it to him, in case that was something he hadn't considered, and yes, I know 
that's not what he asked for. There are times when people take the time to 
answer a question which won't be a direct answer to your question, but just 
a possible thought of another way to do something. The person receiving that 
answer  to their question which may not be a direct answer to what they are 
looking to find out, it's up to them whether it's something they wish to 
consider or respond too in what it means to them.  Point blank if it's not 
the answer they are looking for they don't have to respond to that  answer. 
All this explaination isn't totally necessary, but I felt it was needed this 
time, to suggest to you, that leaving it up to the person that asked the 
question, whether they respond or not of which they don't need to respond to 
everyone that gave an answer. I appreciate your safeguarding to be so very 
supportive and speaking on behalf for someone's  question being 
missunderstood, thank you for taking  the time and heart to care that much, 
but they can respond or not respond as to if the answer means anything to 
them on their own. If that's not the answer they are looking for either they 
won't respond, or the person that asked the question will tell  you 
themselves that wasn't  what they were looking for or they might even thank 
you for reminding them of whatever the possibility was that was mentioned 
with the other way of doing something. I appreciate how you help many of us 
here on the list of which you are very diligent about.   You're not alone 
with caring very much about helping others, and answering questions, of 
which that is what this list and other lists are about, helping one another.
----- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:01 AM
Subject: RE: jailbreaking ios11?


Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's 
app store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the
iOS operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing 
most of the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a 
jailbroken phone can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of 
the things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there 
is a lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community 
figures out how to circumvent these securities and they release another 
jailbreak. Then Apple releases a software update again preventing the phone 
from being jailbroken etc.
It is rare you hear about jailbreaking in the popular media, 6 or 8 years 
ago Podcasts like Today in iOS were full of jailbreaking information.
One thing you of course also do when you jailbreak your phone is that you 
open it up to all sorts of volnerabilities and security risks. Apps you 
download from Sydia could contain malware or other code which may compromise 
security.


Regards,
Sieghard
installing

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Arlene

Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Hank, I don't know about apps like that but possibly you might already be
aware already, that you could send a text message from a computer to a cell
phone b

RE: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Arlene,

What he wants to do has nothing to do with apps available through Apple's app 
store. Jailbreaking refers to the process of gaining root access to the 
iOS operating system that runs on Apple devices and by doing so removing most 
of the restrictions put in place by Apple. Among other things a jailbroken 
phone can use apps from an alternative app store called Sydia.
Jailbreaking was very popular in the early years of iOS, but by now many of the 
things you could do with a jailbroken phone like installing third party 
keyboards, features like the control centre etc. are part of iOS and there is a 
lot less incentive to jailbreak.
Apple usually puts an end to jailbreaking when a new version of iOS is 
released, then a few weeks or months later the jailbreaking community figures 
out how to circumvent these securities and they release another jailbreak. Then 
Apple releases a software update again preventing the phone from being 
jailbroken etc.
It is rare you hear about jailbreaking in the popular media, 6 or 8 years ago 
Podcasts like Today in iOS were full of jailbreaking information.
One thing you of course also do when you jailbreak your phone is that you open 
it up to all sorts of volnerabilities and security risks. Apps you download 
from Sydia could contain malware or other code which may compromise security.

Regards,
Sieghard
installing 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 11:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jailbreaking ios11?

Hank, I don't know about apps like that but possibly you might already be 
aware already, that you could send a text message from a computer to a cell 
phone by addressing a message to the phone number of the phone you want to 
text to, and the carrier's email extention. There's a list for the carriers 
email extentions, or just call and ask the carrier. Then again maybe you 
already knew this, so I hope you can find the kinds of apps you're looking 
for.- Original Message - 
From: "The wolf" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:39 AM
Subject: jailbreaking ios11?


> Hello does any one know of any jailbreaking blind friendly apps to get my 
> iphone 5s ios 11.41 jail broke?
>
> one of the reasons why is there is a app from the cydia store that allows 
> one to send and receive text messages from the computer.
>
> android has tons of apps that can do this pulse sms and android message 
> and I haven't found a way to do the same thing on ios with out 
> jailbreaking ios.
>
> can any one help me out here?
>
> thanks
>
> Hank
>
>
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Re: jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-16 Thread Arlene
Hank, I don't know about apps like that but possibly you might already be 
aware already, that you could send a text message from a computer to a cell 
phone by addressing a message to the phone number of the phone you want to 
text to, and the carrier's email extention. There's a list for the carriers 
email extentions, or just call and ask the carrier. Then again maybe you 
already knew this, so I hope you can find the kinds of apps you're looking 
for.- Original Message - 
From: "The wolf" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 12:39 AM
Subject: jailbreaking ios11?


Hello does any one know of any jailbreaking blind friendly apps to get my 
iphone 5s ios 11.41 jail broke?


one of the reasons why is there is a app from the cydia store that allows 
one to send and receive text messages from the computer.


android has tons of apps that can do this pulse sms and android message 
and I haven't found a way to do the same thing on ios with out 
jailbreaking ios.


can any one help me out here?

thanks

Hank


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jailbreaking ios11?

2018-08-16 Thread The wolf
Hello does any one know of any jailbreaking blind friendly apps to get 
my iphone 5s ios 11.41 jail broke?


one of the reasons why is there is a app from the cydia store that 
allows one to send and receive text messages from the computer.


android has tons of apps that can do this pulse sms and android message 
and I haven't found a way to do the same thing on ios with out 
jailbreaking ios.


can any one help me out here?

thanks

Hank


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The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking

2017-11-25 Thread M. Taylor
The Life, Death, and Legacy of iPhone Jailbreaking
 
This article includes both original reporting from Motherboard and reporting
from The One Device: The Secret History of the iPhone. 

The window shades are halfway down, leaving the bedroom dim. It's a grim day
in Bassano del Grappa, a town in northeastern Italy that's mostly famous for
its main import, the liquor of the same name: Grappa. I'm sitting on a twin
bed-the only place I could sit. To my left, there's a bookshelf with a stack
of Mickey Mouse comics, a staple in the childhood bedroom of every Italian
kid. In front of me, sitting in a faux racing car chair, there's Luca
Todesco, a 19-year-old who might be the best iPhone hacker on the planet.

I hand him my brand new, up-to-date iPhone 7. 
"Can you jailbreak it?" I ask. 

Jailbreaking is the art of hacking into Apple's ultra-secure iOS operating
system and unlocking it-and thus allowing users to customize the phone, and
write or install any software unimpeded by Apple's restrictions. At the time
I met with Todesco, in December 2016, there was no known jailbreak-no public
knowledge of this hack-for the latest iOS version that was installed on my
iPhone (iOS 10.2). 
The world's first jailbreaking step-by-step procedure, discovered in 2007,
was posted online for all to see. Subsequent jailbreaks were used by
millions of people. At one point, there was even a website-called
jailbreakme.com-that was free for all to use and jailbroke your phone simply
by visiting it. 
Todesco's jailbreak, however, is only available within the confines of his
bedroom inside his parents house.
 
Luca Todesco jailbreaks an iPhone in his bedroom in Bassano del Grappa,
Italy, in December of 2016. Photo: Lorenzo Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

Todesco, who is now 20 and is known by his hacker alias "qwertyoruiop,"
looks nonplussed. He grabs my phone and reaches for a cable on his desk,
next to a collection of two dozen iPods and iPhones, all neatly resting next
to each other as if on display. Todesco plugs in the phone, types a couple
of commands into his Mac computer, then presses enter. My iPhone's screen
turns off and on, before a white screen comes up: 
"Doing it . Patching . Jailbroken," the screen reads, one after the other. 
"Ha!" Todesco says, smiling. 
The wall of Apple's garden has been cracked. The phone is jailbroken. 
 
The author's iPhone 7 after being jailbroken by Luca Todesco. Photo: Lorenzo
Franceschi-Bicchierai/Motherboard

If it were the late 2000s, Todesco would probably post how he did that
online, and would release his latest jailbreaking technique to the public.
It'd then be available to all iPhone users, giving anyone a chance to unlock
the phone and install apps not approved by Apple, or tweak the otherwise
locked-in look, theme, and design of the phone's home screen. 

To jailbreak an iPhone means exploiting one or more bug to disable a
security mechanism called code-signing enforcement. This allows the hacker
to run code that's not signed and approved by Apple. By doing that, the
hacker opens up the possibility to install apps not approved by Apple and
make changes and tweaks to the operating system. 

Beginning shortly after the first iPhone was launched, and picking up steam
in 2008, jailbreaking was a full-blown cultural and economic phenomenon.
Hacking crews known by names such as the iPhone Dev Team, Chronic Dev, and
evad3rs were some of the best iPhone hackers of their generation.They made
both sport and crusade of breaking into Apple's ascendant phone and opening
the system up to rogue developers. A brilliant, iconoclastic software
engineer named Jay Freeman gave venue to the hackers and developers by
building Cydia, a sort of alternative App Store. At its height, Cydia, which
predated the actual App Store, was a business pulling in millions of dollars
in revenue, and offered users a way to experience the iPhone as a truly free
and open computer. 

Things, however, have changed. The jailbreaking community is fractured, with
many of its former members having joined private security firms or Apple
itself. The few people still doing it privately are able to hold out for big
payouts for finding iPhone vulnerabilities. And users themselves have
stopped demanding jailbreaks, because Apple simply took jailbreakers' best
ideas and implemented them into iOS.
 
When the iPhone 7 was released on September 16, 2016, Todesco found a way to
jailbreak the new version of iOS within a few hours of getting his phone in
the mail. He showed off his feat on YouTube, and told Motherboard he was
able to do it so quickly because most of the bugs and exploits he needed for
the jailbreak he had already found and developed for previous versions of
iOS. 

Finding these bugs isn't easy. iOS is one of the-if not the-most secure and
tough to hack operating system in the world. The code t

RE: Jailbreaking IPhone5S?

2017-10-26 Thread Fazil
I am having a lot of ads with frustrating frequency in YouTube, someone told me 
if I get the phone jail-broken, I’d find many reliable ad-blockers to prevent 
this, is this true?

Thanks!

 

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What are you trying to do that you can't do in iOS?

Jailbreaking has become such a non-issue that I haven't heard it discussed on 
this list or even on Rob's Today in iOS Podcast for a long time.

A lot of reasons why people used to jailbreak are now available in iOS and 
while I am sure some people still do it, for most it's just not worthwhile.

 

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Hi, list.

I want jailbreaking my IPhone5S, how can I do that, please?

It is an old phone anyway, so it is ok if I messed it up.

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RE: Jailbreaking IPhone5S?

2017-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
What are you trying to do that you can't do in iOS?
Jailbreaking has become such a non-issue that I haven't heard it discussed on 
this list or even on Rob's Today in iOS Podcast for a long time.
A lot of reasons why people used to jailbreak are now available in iOS and 
while I am sure some people still do it, for most it's just not worthwhile.

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Hi, list.
I want jailbreaking my IPhone5S, how can I do that, please?
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RE: Jailbreaking IPhone5S?

2017-10-26 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Whatareyoutryingtodoyoucan’tdowithiOS?

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I want jailbreaking my IPhone5S, how can I do that, please?
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Jailbreaking IPhone5S?

2017-10-26 Thread Fazil
Hi, list.

I want jailbreaking my IPhone5S, how can I do that, please?

It is an old phone anyway, so it is ok if I messed it up.

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Re: Jailbreaking and iTunes

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I am aware of the context in which the article was written in terms of 
timeline. The link to the article was only an example of why one would want 
to jail break and not the specific features I feel I need. Thank you for 
partially answering my question in your very last sentence.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:11 AM
Subject: RE: Jailbreaking and iTunes


Hi Joseph,

I had a quick look at the article you provided the link for and if you read
it again you'll find that most of the "reasons to jailbreak" are things the
author is hoping the iOS 7 jailbreak would allow. The article was written
right after iOS 7 was released and before a jailbreak was available. I am
not a jailbreaker so I don't, for example, know if there is a jailbreak to
add other things to Control Centre just to use one example. Other things
like turning off the apparently headache inducing zoom effect you can do
right in iOS.
Yes, some of what you might be able to do with a tweek like Activator is
neat, but I personally was much more tempted to jailbreak a couple of years
ago before Control Centre and Notification Centre came to iOS. Anyhow, as
Jerry pointed out, if you have already upgraded to iOS 7.1.1 you cannot
jailbreak, you would still have to be on iOS 7.04 or earlier to do so.
As for iOS functionality, you don't loose any, you still have all your apps
from the Apple app store, you can still buy apps from the app store or
content from iTunes.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: Jailbreaking and iTunes

Hi all,

I've run a few Google searches, and it appears there might be some neat
features I would like to use on iOS which can only be done via jailbreak.
This link provides some examples such as the Activator app:
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/top-reasons-jailbreak-ios-7.html

If I jailbreak my iPod Touch 5th gen will I still be able to access the
iTunes store on my iPod and or iTunes on PC? I of course still want access
to iOS updates and app updates. .

Maybe a better question is one of "what functionality will I lose by jail
breaking."

My iPod is out of warrantee so not too concerned with that.

If anyone who has been there done that can help I'd really appreciate the
information in order to make an educated decision. .

Joseph


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RE: Jailbreaking and iTunes

2014-05-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Joseph,

I had a quick look at the article you provided the link for and if you read
it again you'll find that most of the "reasons to jailbreak" are things the
author is hoping the iOS 7 jailbreak would allow. The article was written
right after iOS 7 was released and before a jailbreak was available. I am
not a jailbreaker so I don't, for example, know if there is a jailbreak to
add other things to Control Centre just to use one example. Other things
like turning off the apparently headache inducing zoom effect you can do
right in iOS.
Yes, some of what you might be able to do with a tweek like Activator is
neat, but I personally was much more tempted to jailbreak a couple of years
ago before Control Centre and Notification Centre came to iOS. Anyhow, as
Jerry pointed out, if you have already upgraded to iOS 7.1.1 you cannot
jailbreak, you would still have to be on iOS 7.04 or earlier to do so. 
As for iOS functionality, you don't loose any, you still have all your apps
from the Apple app store, you can still buy apps from the app store or
content from iTunes.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Joseph FreeTech
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Jailbreaking and iTunes

Hi all,

I've run a few Google searches, and it appears there might be some neat 
features I would like to use on iOS which can only be done via jailbreak. 
This link provides some examples such as the Activator app:
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/top-reasons-jailbreak-ios-7.html

If I jailbreak my iPod Touch 5th gen will I still be able to access the 
iTunes store on my iPod and or iTunes on PC? I of course still want access 
to iOS updates and app updates. .

Maybe a better question is one of "what functionality will I lose by jail 
breaking."

My iPod is out of warrantee so not too concerned with that.

If anyone who has been there done that can help I'd really appreciate the 
information in order to make an educated decision. .

Joseph


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RE: Jailbreaking and iTunes

2014-05-28 Thread Jerry Mader
Yes I do believe you should be able to.
How ever if you're running 7.1 you can't jailbreak yet I do believe.
You have to wait till something comes along that will allow you to jailbreak
in that version of software. I don't think it will though.
If I'm incorrect please correct me.
Thanks
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Subject: Jailbreaking and iTunes

Hi all,

I've run a few Google searches, and it appears there might be some neat 
features I would like to use on iOS which can only be done via jailbreak. 
This link provides some examples such as the Activator app:
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/top-reasons-jailbreak-ios-7.html

If I jailbreak my iPod Touch 5th gen will I still be able to access the 
iTunes store on my iPod and or iTunes on PC? I of course still want access 
to iOS updates and app updates. .

Maybe a better question is one of "what functionality will I lose by jail 
breaking."

My iPod is out of warrantee so not too concerned with that.

If anyone who has been there done that can help I'd really appreciate the 
information in order to make an educated decision. .

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Jailbreaking and iTunes

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi all,

I've run a few Google searches, and it appears there might be some neat 
features I would like to use on iOS which can only be done via jailbreak. 
This link provides some examples such as the Activator app:
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2013/09/top-reasons-jailbreak-ios-7.html

If I jailbreak my iPod Touch 5th gen will I still be able to access the 
iTunes store on my iPod and or iTunes on PC? I of course still want access 
to iOS updates and app updates. .

Maybe a better question is one of "what functionality will I lose by jail 
breaking."

My iPod is out of warrantee so not too concerned with that.

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information in order to make an educated decision. .

Joseph


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Re: Jailbreaking 7.04 - iBlindTech 56

2014-01-30 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
This was an interesting listen. It shows that It is very easy to Jail
Break. However, what apps are truly going to be of actual value and
not just things to play with?

On 1/23/14, Garth Humphreys  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On the latest episode of iBlindTech, Hugo joins us today to walk through
> jailbreaking iOS 7.04. With Apple's latest beta release of iOS 7.1, it
> appears they have closed the exploits that allow this jailbreak. Also many
> of the problems that users were experiencing when this jailbreak was first
> released have now been fixed. So if you're considering a jailbreak, now's
> the time to jump on it.
> Direct download link:
> http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-056-JailBreak704.mp3
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Jailbreaking 7.04 - iBlindTech 56

2014-01-23 Thread Garth Humphreys
Hi all, 

On the latest episode of iBlindTech, Hugo joins us today to walk through 
jailbreaking iOS 7.04. With Apple’s latest beta release of iOS 7.1, it appears 
they have closed the exploits that allow this jailbreak. Also many of the 
problems that users were experiencing when this jailbreak was first released 
have now been fixed. So if you’re considering a jailbreak, now’s the time to 
jump on it. 
Direct download link:
http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-056-JailBreak704.mp3

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RE: Google Voice and jailbreaking - Was Re: iOS7 Jailbreak Released

2014-01-08 Thread Joe
Hi, if you could forward that article, that'd be great.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Google Voice and jailbreaking - Was Re: iOS7 Jailbreak Released

Hello Melissa and all interested. Basically it's like this, you can set up a
free Google Voice number at http://voice.google.com and forward it to your
iPhone number, or any other number by choice. In my case, my real cell
iPhone number is the primary number it forwards to. This means that when
people call my GV number, it rings my cell phone. If I want to call that
person back, or make outgoing calls which appear from my GV number rather
than my real cell number, I have to either use a direct dial method or call
back method via the Google Voice App or my favorite, GV Connect. Normally
that is fine, and in most cases no problem. However if I am texting with
someone, or if I see a number on a web page or if someone puts their number
in an email, I can't just simply tap the number and call it and it come from
my GV number. This is where jailbreaking and the Call on GV Pro and SMS on
GV tweaks come into play. 
With Call on GV Pro, it fully integrates my GV number into the iPhone so
that outgoing calls can be from my GV number. You choose the method of
dialing out so you always use GV, or the tweak asks you if you want to
choose carrier calls. It's completely flexible. Now for texting, when you
have a GV number, it can be used to send texts back and forth with it.
Normal SMS can be sent, but not MMS, which is used for pictures, videos, and
audio. Again, if I want to text back and forth to and from my GV number and
all outgoing texts need to show my GV number to hide my real cell number, I
have to either use Google Voice app, or GV Connect. 
Another way is you can have Google forward all texts to your real cell and
they are assigned a gateway number which is associated with that contact.
This is very good the way it works, but let's say that someone with number
832-555-1234 writes me. I'll see an incoming text which shows 504-221-1922
and then the text shows 832-555-1234 followed by the text. As long as I
respond to that 504 number, it will automatically forward to the real 832
number which wrote me. Again, not a big deal if I add that 504 into my
contacts. I can even call it like normal, and the call will originate from
my GV number. However again, if you want to initiate a text message, you
have to use a Google Voice or GV Connect app. So, here comes jailbreaking
and SMS on GV. It fully integrates the sms experience with my iPhone and so
all I have to do is text someone like normal to their regular number and the
incoming text they will see will be from my gv number. This also has the
advantage that if another app sends out a text on your behalf, like sharing
information, it will originate from your GV number.

I hope this helps, and if I can explains things further, please write me off
list.

PS, a while back I wrote up a setup article on how to do all what I
describe. The article is a bit outdated now since it was for iOS 5 I
believe, but much of the same information applies. If I get requests off
list, I can send that article to people. Again, off list for this.

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On 1/8/2014 12:24 PM, Melissa wrote:
> Good afternoon Raul.  I am wondering about the Google voice integration
you
> mentioned.  Can you explain further, and perhaps point me in the direction
> of how to apply it?  My phone and IPad are jailbroken, and I am not new to
> jailbreaking.  I have been waiting for the new release of Intellixscreen
as
> well.
> Warmest regards,
> Melissa
>
> Melissa Riley
> jamand...@izoom.net
> riley...@umn.edu
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Raul A. Gallegos
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:29 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS7 Jailbreak Released
>
> Hi, can't speak for Ben, but below are some of the reasons why
jailbreaking
> isn't quite as sexy as it used to be for me. Other than the Google Voice
> integration, which is still the primary reason for me to do it, the
reasons
> below no longer seem important.
>
> iOS added the control center. Much of this functionality used to be done
> with SBSettings, now the Control Center takes care of that.
>
> iOS added the ability to block callers via messages, phone, or Facetime.
> Previously you had to use a jailbreak tweak to get this functionality.
>
> iOS added ability for more than 12 a

Google Voice and jailbreaking - Was Re: iOS7 Jailbreak Released

2014-01-08 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hello Melissa and all interested. Basically it's like this, you can set 
up a free Google Voice number at http://voice.google.com and forward it 
to your iPhone number, or any other number by choice. In my case, my 
real cell iPhone number is the primary number it forwards to. This means 
that when people call my GV number, it rings my cell phone. If I want to 
call that person back, or make outgoing calls which appear from my GV 
number rather than my real cell number, I have to either use a direct 
dial method or call back method via the Google Voice App or my favorite, 
GV Connect. Normally that is fine, and in most cases no problem. However 
if I am texting with someone, or if I see a number on a web page or if 
someone puts their number in an email, I can't just simply tap the 
number and call it and it come from my GV number. This is where 
jailbreaking and the Call on GV Pro and SMS on GV tweaks come into play. 
With Call on GV Pro, it fully integrates my GV number into the iPhone so 
that outgoing calls can be from my GV number. You choose the method of 
dialing out so you always use GV, or the tweak asks you if you want to 
choose carrier calls. It's completely flexible. Now for texting, when 
you have a GV number, it can be used to send texts back and forth with 
it. Normal SMS can be sent, but not MMS, which is used for pictures, 
videos, and audio. Again, if I want to text back and forth to and from 
my GV number and all outgoing texts need to show my GV number to hide my 
real cell number, I have to either use Google Voice app, or GV Connect. 
Another way is you can have Google forward all texts to your real cell 
and they are assigned a gateway number which is associated with that 
contact. This is very good the way it works, but let's say that someone 
with number 832-555-1234 writes me. I'll see an incoming text which 
shows 504-221-1922 and then the text shows 832-555-1234 followed by the 
text. As long as I respond to that 504 number, it will automatically 
forward to the real 832 number which wrote me. Again, not a big deal if 
I add that 504 into my contacts. I can even call it like normal, and the 
call will originate from my GV number. However again, if you want to 
initiate a text message, you have to use a Google Voice or GV Connect 
app. So, here comes jailbreaking and SMS on GV. It fully integrates the 
sms experience with my iPhone and so all I have to do is text someone 
like normal to their regular number and the incoming text they will see 
will be from my gv number. This also has the advantage that if another 
app sends out a text on your behalf, like sharing information, it will 
originate from your GV number.


I hope this helps, and if I can explains things further, please write me 
off list.


PS, a while back I wrote up a setup article on how to do all what I 
describe. The article is a bit outdated now since it was for iOS 5 I 
believe, but much of the same information applies. If I get requests off 
list, I can send that article to people. Again, off list for this.


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On 1/8/2014 12:24 PM, Melissa wrote:

Good afternoon Raul.  I am wondering about the Google voice integration you
mentioned.  Can you explain further, and perhaps point me in the direction
of how to apply it?  My phone and IPad are jailbroken, and I am not new to
jailbreaking.  I have been waiting for the new release of Intellixscreen as
well.
Warmest regards,
Melissa

Melissa Riley
jamand...@izoom.net
riley...@umn.edu


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS7 Jailbreak Released

Hi, can't speak for Ben, but below are some of the reasons why jailbreaking
isn't quite as sexy as it used to be for me. Other than the Google Voice
integration, which is still the primary reason for me to do it, the reasons
below no longer seem important.

iOS added the control center. Much of this functionality used to be done
with SBSettings, now the Control Center takes care of that.

iOS added the ability to block callers via messages, phone, or Facetime.
Previously you had to use a jailbreak tweak to get this functionality.

iOS added ability for more than 12 apps per folder. Again, jailbreak tweaks
were needed to get this.

Do you see the pattern? Apple might openly say that jailbreaking is akin to
going to hell, yet new features in iOS 7 give you functionality which
jailbreakers have enjoyed for years. So, Apple I think sees that some of the
things which iOS 7 now does might not be so bad and that jailbreakers have
the right idea.

Once Apple adds custom gestures to open apps or do neat things like toggle
wi-fi or whatever, then there will be no more ne

RE: Jailbreaking in iOS 7

2013-11-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Check out www.TodayInIOS.com. But as Joseph already pointed out, there is no
Jailbreak yet for iOS 7 and I doubt there will be one for another 2 or 3
months.

 

 

 

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Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Jailbreaking in iOS 7

 

Hi, can anyone speak to their experience with jailbreaking iOS 7? Is that
even possible yet, and if so, what can you do with a jailbroken device that
you can't do with the regular system? The Apple Care on my 4S is about to
lapse, so I'm not as interested in voiding any agreements. If you can speak
to the advantages of jailbreaking and can either explain the process or
point me to comprehensive articles, I'd be much appreciative.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: Jailbreaking in iOS 7

2013-11-07 Thread Steve
The JB for IOS 7 hasn't been developed yet, as far as I know.
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Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 6:02 PM
Subject: Jailbreaking in iOS 7


Hi, can anyone speak to their experience with jailbreaking iOS 7? Is that 
even possible yet, and if so, what can you do with a jailbroken device that 
you can't do with the regular system? The Apple Care on my 4S is about to 
lapse, so I'm not as interested in voiding any agreements. If you can speak 
to the advantages of jailbreaking and can either explain the process or 
point me to comprehensive articles, I'd be much appreciative.



Thanks,



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Re: Jailbreaking in iOS 7

2013-11-07 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello Joe, no there's no jailbreak it for iOS 7.

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> On Nov 7, 2013, at 5:02 PM, "Joe"  wrote:
> 
> Hi, can anyone speak to their experience with jailbreaking iOS 7? Is that 
> even possible yet, and if so, what can you do with a jailbroken device that 
> you can’t do with the regular system? The Apple Care on my 4S is about to 
> lapse, so I’m not as interested in voiding any agreements. If you can speak 
> to the advantages of jailbreaking and can either explain the process or point 
> me to comprehensive articles, I’d be much appreciative.
>  
> Thanks,
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Jailbreaking in iOS 7

2013-11-07 Thread Joe
Hi, can anyone speak to their experience with jailbreaking iOS 7? Is that
even possible yet, and if so, what can you do with a jailbroken device that
you can't do with the regular system? The Apple Care on my 4S is about to
lapse, so I'm not as interested in voiding any agreements. If you can speak
to the advantages of jailbreaking and can either explain the process or
point me to comprehensive articles, I'd be much appreciative.

 

Thanks,

 

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Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally updated to 6.1.3

2013-07-16 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

In terms of what to do to give you the best chance of having a
jailbreakable device at some point in the future, the best root would
be to sell your current touch and buy the latest one which will have
iOs7 support when it's released. Note however that you will loos a
considerable amount of money with this approach, so it really depends
on how important the jailbreak is to you. Unfortunately I see no way
that you will ever be able to jailbreak with your current setup.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 7/15/13, Jerry Mader  wrote:
> Oh great! the forem i went to said that the Ipod touch four woule be able to
> get IOS seven.
> So now what do i do?
> Jerry Mader
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Sieghard Weitzel
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:39 PM
>   Subject: RE: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i
> accedentally updated to 6.1.3
>
>
>   Hi Jerry,
>
>
>
>   You are in for another disappointment. The only iPod Touch on which you
> can install iOS 7 will be the latest Fifth Generation which was released
> last fall.
>
>
>
>   In the iPhone family, the 5 will get all iOS 7 features.
>
>   the 4S will get everything except filters in the camera app and Airdrop.
>
>   The 4 will be able to run ith
>
>
>
>   In the iPad family the only iPads with the full feature set will be the
> latest Fourth Generation and the iPad Mini.
>
>   The Third Generation iPad which was released in March 2012 will not have
> the filters in the camera app, panoramic photos and Airdrop.
>
>   The Second Generation iPad will have the same limitations as the iPhone 4
> and it won't support Square photos and videos, either, which apparently the
> iPhone 4 will support.
>
>
>
>   Here is a link to anarticle:
>
>
>
>
> http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>   Regards,
>
>   Sieghard
>
>
>
>   From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jerry Mader
>   Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41 PM
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i
> accedentally updated to 6.1.3
>
>
>
>   Oh ok. thanks Kyle.
>
>   That does suck but what can i do. lol.
>
>   Guess I'll wait for it, which is all anyone can do.
>
>   Will the IPod Touch 4g be able to get IOS seven?
>
>   Just wondering.
>
>
>
>   Later
>
>   Jerry Mader
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Kyle Seitz
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:10 PM
>
> Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i
> accidentally updated to 6.1.3
>
>
>
> Sorry Jerry.  You're out of luck.  Now that you've updated to 6.1.3, you
> can't jailbreak.  You'll have to wait until the jailbreak comes for IOS 7
> whenever that is.  It'll be a while.
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:54 PM, "Jerry Mader" 
> wrote:
>
>   First of all let me say that, if I've came to the wrong place to ask
> this question or get help on this matter, please point me in the right
> direction.
>
>   Is there qa way to jailbreak 6.1.3?
>
>   And if not how can i get back to 6.1.2 with out having my shsh blobs.
>
>   I accedentilly restored and didn't remember that doing that would harm
> the jailbreak.
>
>   So how can i fix this, so my Ipod can be rejailbroken?
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Jerry Mader
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Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally updated to 6.1.3

2013-07-15 Thread Jerry Mader
Oh great! the forem i went to said that the Ipod touch four woule be able to 
get IOS seven.
So now what do i do?
Jerry Mader
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 10:39 PM
  Subject: RE: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally 
updated to 6.1.3


  Hi Jerry,

   

  You are in for another disappointment. The only iPod Touch on which you can 
install iOS 7 will be the latest Fifth Generation which was released last fall.

   

  In the iPhone family, the 5 will get all iOS 7 features.

  the 4S will get everything except filters in the camera app and Airdrop.

  The 4 will be able to run ith 

   

  In the iPad family the only iPads with the full feature set will be the 
latest Fourth Generation and the iPad Mini.

  The Third Generation iPad which was released in March 2012 will not have the 
filters in the camera app, panoramic photos and Airdrop.

  The Second Generation iPad will have the same limitations as the iPhone 4 and 
it won't support Square photos and videos, either, which apparently the iPhone 
4 will support.

   

  Here is a link to anarticle:

   

  
http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compatible.htm

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jerry Mader
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally 
updated to 6.1.3

   

  Oh ok. thanks Kyle.

  That does suck but what can i do. lol.

  Guess I'll wait for it, which is all anyone can do.

  Will the IPod Touch 4g be able to get IOS seven?

  Just wondering.

   

  Later

  Jerry Mader

- Original Message - 

From: Kyle Seitz 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accidentally 
updated to 6.1.3

 

Sorry Jerry.  You're out of luck.  Now that you've updated to 6.1.3, you 
can't jailbreak.  You'll have to wait until the jailbreak comes for IOS 7 
whenever that is.  It'll be a while.

Kyle 

 


On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:54 PM, "Jerry Mader"  
wrote:

  First of all let me say that, if I've came to the wrong place to ask this 
question or get help on this matter, please point me in the right direction.

  Is there qa way to jailbreak 6.1.3?

  And if not how can i get back to 6.1.2 with out having my shsh blobs.

  I accedentilly restored and didn't remember that doing that would harm 
the jailbreak.

  So how can i fix this, so my Ipod can be rejailbroken?

  Thanks

  Jerry Mader

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RE: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally updated to 6.1.3

2013-07-15 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jerry,

 

You are in for another disappointment. The only iPod Touch on which you can
install iOS 7 will be the latest Fifth Generation which was released last
fall.

 

In the iPhone family, the 5 will get all iOS 7 features.

the 4S will get everything except filters in the camera app and Airdrop.

The 4 will be able to run ith 

 

In the iPad family the only iPads with the full feature set will be the
latest Fourth Generation and the iPad Mini.

The Third Generation iPad which was released in March 2012 will not have the
filters in the camera app, panoramic photos and Airdrop.

The Second Generation iPad will have the same limitations as the iPhone 4
and it won't support Square photos and videos, either, which apparently the
iPhone 4 will support.

 

Here is a link to anarticle:

 

http://ipod.about.com/od/iphonesoftwareterms/f/What-Devices-Are-Ios-7-Compat
ible.htm

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jerry Mader
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally
updated to 6.1.3

 

Oh ok. thanks Kyle.

That does suck but what can i do. lol.

Guess I'll wait for it, which is all anyone can do.

Will the IPod Touch 4g be able to get IOS seven?

Just wondering.

 

Later

Jerry Mader

- Original Message - 

From: Kyle Seitz <mailto:wolfpac...@live.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:10 PM

Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accidentally
updated to 6.1.3

 

Sorry Jerry.  You're out of luck.  Now that you've updated to 6.1.3, you
can't jailbreak.  You'll have to wait until the jailbreak comes for IOS 7
whenever that is.  It'll be a while.

Kyle 

 


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wrote:

First of all let me say that, if I've came to the wrong place to ask this
question or get help on this matter, please point me in the right direction.

Is there qa way to jailbreak 6.1.3?

And if not how can i get back to 6.1.2 with out having my shsh blobs.

I accedentilly restored and didn't remember that doing that would harm the
jailbreak.

So how can i fix this, so my Ipod can be rejailbroken?

Thanks

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Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accedentally updated to 6.1.3

2013-07-15 Thread Jerry Mader
Oh ok. thanks Kyle.
That does suck but what can i do. lol.
Guess I'll wait for it, which is all anyone can do.
Will the IPod Touch 4g be able to get IOS seven?
Just wondering.

Later
Jerry Mader
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kyle Seitz 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 5:10 PM
  Subject: Re: need a little help with jailbreaking my IPod as i accidentally 
updated to 6.1.3


  Sorry Jerry.  You're out of luck.  Now that you've updated to 6.1.3, you 
can't jailbreak.  You'll have to wait until the jailbreak comes for IOS 7 
whenever that is.  It'll be a while.

  Kyle



  On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:54 PM, "Jerry Mader"  
wrote:


First of all let me say that, if I've came to the wrong place to ask this 
question or get help on this matter, please point me in the right direction.
Is there qa way to jailbreak 6.1.3?
And if not how can i get back to 6.1.2 with out having my shsh blobs.
I accedentilly restored and didn't remember that doing that would harm the 
jailbreak.
So how can i fix this, so my Ipod can be rejailbroken?
Thanks
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Re: jailbreaking,

2013-07-02 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

The battery & cable still may not be the problem. Are you getting an
error when you try and sync?

Cheers,
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> cable with the Phone. Hey I just figured it out. I think Itunes 11 is
> okay. quurky as it is it is functional. thanks Buddy. Sorry about my
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jailbreaking,

2013-07-02 Thread buddy liverman
I am sorry about my last post. I got in a hurry. Okay i think itunes is 
not the problem i have an external battery plugged in my Phone. I c't 
sync with my Phone to Pc. Because you probably have to use the original 
cable with the Phone. Hey I just figured it out. I think Itunes 11 is 
okay. quurky as it is it is functional. thanks Buddy. Sorry about my 
spelling Lord satogo has a spellcheck option. thanks Buddy.


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Re: Message To Ben Regarding Jailbreaking

2013-05-29 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Unfortunately not; because you have the newer and unexploitable
bootrom, you can only upgrade to the latest iOs. Your options are:

Continue to use iOs4 and use ultrasn0w to unlock.
Find a company that will unlock your phone based on its imei and then
upgrade to iOs6.
Wait until iOs7 is released and jailbroken (Probably a while), hope
that the 3GS supports it, hope that ultrasn0w will support it and hope
that theres a way of upgrading without upgrading the baseband then
unlock like that.

If I were you, I'd probably look for an imei unlock or just sell it
and chalk the loss up as experience.

Cheers,
Ben.

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Re: Message To Ben Regarding Jailbreaking

2013-05-29 Thread BBS

Hi Ben. You mean I can't upgrade to at least iOS 5?

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Re: Message To Ben Regarding Jailbreaking

2013-05-29 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

The downgrade doesn't just happen, but even if we disregard this and
assume you're running a 5X baseband, afaik you'll still have problems.

The latest version of iOs6 which is the only version you'll be able to
upgrade to isn't jailbreakable for you. Unfortunately, since you're
wanting a software unlock, the only way you will be able to unlock it
is if you jailbreak. The only options I see for you is a hardware
unlock or to wait until iOs7 is jailbroken, hope that the 3GS supports
it and then just upgrade to that.

Sorry to be the barer of bad news.

Cheers,
Ben.

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> Hi. This is a message to Ben. Recently I tried upgrading to iOS 6
> because my carrier said that the phone wouldn't get effected. Well, it
> did and then I take it back to the place that jailbroke it originally.
> I've been searching on Kijiji for iPhone 4S's with no luck so I'm
> giving up on it. I want to try to upgrade this thing without losing the
> unlock again so here I am. Ben, you said the last time that I may have
> an issue because my baseband was 06 point something. Well I checked my
> baseband this time around and it's the normal value you said, which is
> 05.13.04. My third, fourth, and fifth numbers are still 947 but if we
> can upgrade the thing with the proper baseband, how do I do it? Thanks
> and sorry I keep bugging you about this. It's just that iOS4.1 sucks
> and I can't do anything remotely fun.
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Message To Ben Regarding Jailbreaking

2013-05-28 Thread BBS
Hi. This is a message to Ben. Recently I tried upgrading to iOS 6 
because my carrier said that the phone wouldn't get effected. Well, it 
did and then I take it back to the place that jailbroke it originally. 
I've been searching on Kijiji for iPhone 4S's with no luck so I'm 
giving up on it. I want to try to upgrade this thing without losing the 
unlock again so here I am. Ben, you said the last time that I may have 
an issue because my baseband was 06 point something. Well I checked my 
baseband this time around and it's the normal value you said, which is 
05.13.04. My third, fourth, and fifth numbers are still 947 but if we 
can upgrade the thing with the proper baseband, how do I do it? Thanks 
and sorry I keep bugging you about this. It's just that iOS4.1 sucks 
and I can't do anything remotely fun.


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Re: Jailbreaking iPad

2013-02-21 Thread Victor Hugo Gallegos
If you  update to 6.1.2, you will  needevasi0n 1.4. 

Sent from my iPhone

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> My 4S is jailbroken with Evasi0n running 6.1. I think I heard there was a 
> 6.11 and 6.2 out now. So if I update my iPad 3 to the latest software, is 
> there a jb for the 6.11 or 6.2, or will I be fine with running the software 
> that I used to jb my phone?
> Thanks. 
> 
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Re: Jailbreaking iPad

2013-02-21 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Update to 6.1.2; evasi0n is compatible.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/20/13, Shane clark  wrote:
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> My 4S is jailbroken with Evasi0n running 6.1. I think I heard there was a
> 6.11 and 6.2 out now. So if I update my iPad 3 to the latest software, is
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> Thanks.
>
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Jailbreaking iPad

2013-02-21 Thread Shane clark
Hi,
My 4S is jailbroken with Evasi0n running 6.1. I think I heard there was a 6.11 
and 6.2 out now. So if I update my iPad 3 to the latest software, is there a jb 
for the 6.11 or 6.2, or will I be fine with running the software that I used to 
jb my phone?
Thanks. 

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Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

2013-02-17 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Again, I don't recall this. I remember Raul weighing in when a
discussion about whether it was proper to use voices licensed for one
screen reader with another turned nasty with some name calling and some
references to the release of IOS 6, but this had nothing to do with jail
breaking.

I'm all for setting up a list on jail breaking, but since the heated
discussions on this list had nothing to do with jail breaking, I'm not
sure creating a new list for jail breaking is going to eliminate the
heated discussions. Unless you have a list of just one, person you'll
always have some heated issues, at least until the moderator weighs in.
That's just human nature. BTW, I think the moderators do a great job on
this list, especially when you consider how many people are on this list.

On 16/02/13 03:24, RobH! wrote:
> Admin got in on the act to quell it, so there must have been, even if I 
> didn't read it.
> 
> Rh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:21 AM
> Subject: Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.
> 
> 
> I think a list dedicated to jail breaking is a good idea, but I don't
> recall any heated discussions on this list about jail breaking or anyone
> making sweeping accusations or statements about the legality of jail
> breaking. There was a brief discussion when the ruling came out making
> the unauthorized unlocking of an iPhone illegal, but like I said, I
> don't recall any such discussion around jail breaking.
> 
> On 15/02/13 23:02, Shane Davidson wrote:
>> Hello all;
>>
>> I know I don’t post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.
>>
>> After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking
>> and a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
>> legality of same subject, I’ve created a list especially for
>> jailbreaking, discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it,
>> jailbreak app recommendations, etc.
>>
>> This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
>> prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there
>> allowing illegal activity.
>>
>> You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
>>
>> jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net
>> <mailto:jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net>
>>
>> And then replying to the confirmation message.
>>
>> Please note: if you feel jailbreaking is illegal and don’t wish to
>> participate, Please do not subscribe.
>>
>> I hope to see some of you there.
>>
>> Sincerely;
>>
>> Shane Davidson with guidedog Cleveland
>>
>> GDB graduate Oregon class OR227 5/19/2012
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Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

2013-02-17 Thread RobH!
Admin got in on the act to quell it, so there must have been, even if I 
didn't read it.

Rh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.


I think a list dedicated to jail breaking is a good idea, but I don't
recall any heated discussions on this list about jail breaking or anyone
making sweeping accusations or statements about the legality of jail
breaking. There was a brief discussion when the ruling came out making
the unauthorized unlocking of an iPhone illegal, but like I said, I
don't recall any such discussion around jail breaking.

On 15/02/13 23:02, Shane Davidson wrote:
> Hello all;
>
> I know I don’t post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.
>
> After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking
> and a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
> legality of same subject, I’ve created a list especially for
> jailbreaking, discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it,
> jailbreak app recommendations, etc.
>
> This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
> prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there
> allowing illegal activity.
>
> You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
>
> jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net
> <mailto:jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net>
>
> And then replying to the confirmation message.
>
> Please note: if you feel jailbreaking is illegal and don’t wish to
> participate, Please do not subscribe.
>
> I hope to see some of you there.
>
> Sincerely;
>
> Shane Davidson with guidedog Cleveland
>
> GDB graduate Oregon class OR227 5/19/2012
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Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

2013-02-16 Thread Rose Waagan
I go through my phases of posting and not posting on this list, but I do have 
to chime in here. People have had the misconception that jailbreaking is 
illegal in the midst of a thread where someone has asked an innocent  question 
about jailbreaking. This has then been followed by a moderator clarifying the 
point that yes, it is legal and can therefore be talked about here. I 
understand that those who have posted these messages are only looking out for 
the reputation of this group. but said messages were annoying to read. But, 
that last sentence is my personal opinion, and I will keep further comment on 
the subject to myself.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 16, 2013, at 12:21 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I think a list dedicated to jail breaking is a good idea, but I don't
> recall any heated discussions on this list about jail breaking or anyone
> making sweeping accusations or statements about the legality of jail
> breaking. There was a brief discussion when the ruling came out making
> the unauthorized unlocking of an iPhone illegal, but like I said, I
> don't recall any such discussion around jail breaking.
> 
> On 15/02/13 23:02, Shane Davidson wrote:
>> Hello all;
>> 
>> I know I don’t post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.
>> 
>> After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking
>> and a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
>> legality of same subject, I’ve created a list especially for
>> jailbreaking, discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it,
>> jailbreak app recommendations, etc.
>> 
>> This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
>> prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there
>> allowing illegal activity.
>> 
>> You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
>> 
>> jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net
>> <mailto:jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net>
>> 
>> And then replying to the confirmation message.
>> 
>> Please note: if you feel jailbreaking is illegal and don’t wish to
>> participate, Please do not subscribe.
>> 
>> I hope to see some of you there.
>> 
>> Sincerely;
>> 
>> Shane Davidson with guidedog Cleveland
>> 
>> GDB graduate Oregon class OR227 5/19/2012
>> 
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Re: jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

2013-02-16 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I think a list dedicated to jail breaking is a good idea, but I don't
recall any heated discussions on this list about jail breaking or anyone
making sweeping accusations or statements about the legality of jail
breaking. There was a brief discussion when the ruling came out making
the unauthorized unlocking of an iPhone illegal, but like I said, I
don't recall any such discussion around jail breaking.

On 15/02/13 23:02, Shane Davidson wrote:
> Hello all;
> 
> I know I don’t post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.
> 
> After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking
> and a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
> legality of same subject, I’ve created a list especially for
> jailbreaking, discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it,
> jailbreak app recommendations, etc.
> 
> This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
> prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there
> allowing illegal activity.
> 
> You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to
> 
> jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net
> <mailto:jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net>
> 
> And then replying to the confirmation message.
> 
> Please note: if you feel jailbreaking is illegal and don’t wish to
> participate, Please do not subscribe.
> 
> I hope to see some of you there.
> 
> Sincerely;
> 
> Shane Davidson with guidedog Cleveland
> 
> GDB graduate Oregon class OR227 5/19/2012
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jailbreaking, a list dedicated to it.

2013-02-15 Thread Shane Davidson
Hello all;

I know I don't post much, but I hope what I have to say is taken to heart.

After seing what I considered a rather heated discussion of jailbreaking and
a couple of members making sweeping judgmental accusations about the
legality of same subject, I've created a list especially for jailbreaking,
discussing it, doing it, getting help if you bust it, jailbreak app
recommendations, etc.

This will I hope allow for discussion of this rather nifty subject, and
prevent the moderation team on this list from feeling like there allowing
illegal activity.

You may subscribe by sending a blank e-mail to

jailbreak-discuss-subscr...@lists.shaned.net

And then replying to the confirmation message.

Please note: if you feel jailbreaking is illegal and don't wish to
participate, Please do not subscribe.

I hope to see some of you there.

Sincerely;

Shane Davidson with guidedog Cleveland

GDB graduate Oregon class OR227 5/19/2012

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RE: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-12 Thread Blind Treasures
I am not able to download the Tom voice for some reason. It only downloads a
small part of it. I am able to download any of the other voices. Is anyone
else who has tried adding a voice had any issues? Can anyone send me the
file via dropbox or send space? Thanks for any help.

 

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Subject: Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that
possible?

Hi,

Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below was
taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:

1: download and install this:
http://iphonefolders.com/
2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have access
to the entire file system. If you're not jailbroken you'll only be able to
browse the media folder and this hack will not be possible for you
unfortunately.
3: Download the voice that you want from http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com
4: On your computer, navigate to
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VoiceServices.framework/TTSResources/
on your device.

Now you should see subfolders with language codes. You can, however, ignore
these and drop in any other data you wish and it will work (in fact, for the
sake of this guide, we'll be replacing samantha with Lee, but other
combinations will work as well) Enter one of these folders. You will see a
file called broker.hdr, a few dat files, and a text file called
user_rules.txt. This file is custom written by Apple, and it can be used as
a dictionary (ever wondered why your iDevice pronounces artists like Rihanna
correctly?
Well, there you go). You can either leave it as is, or replace it by the
file of the language you're replacing it with (IE, since I'm replacing Sammy
with Lee, I could take the rules file out of then en-AU folder. But since
that file is much smaller, I chose not to.) Now, go ahead and make a backup
of this folder in case you break something - E.G. copy paste to a folder on
your computer.

We'll now prepare the voice data:

Time to look at the NVDA vocalizer driver. When you open the adon's zip file
or folder, you will see a locale folder, which contains strings for NVDA<
and a folder with the language code (for lee, it's ENA), and you want to go
there. There will be only a speech folder so enter that as well. Now you'll
see 2 folders, components, and vautov5.
The components folder will have a bunch of dat files. You will definitely
need these 3,  languagecode and voicename will change depending what voice
you're working with clc_languagecode_cfg3.dat
clc_languagecode_voicename_cfg3.dat
select_voicename_bet2f22.dat

The 2 files below contain the voice data for the standard variant:
synth_voicename_dri40_155mrf22_270_06.dat, or something to that effect, is
the standard variant, which has a bunch of compression on it.
synth_voicename_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat is the standard high version, which
sounds very similar to the premium variant, and I'd recommend using this
one.
next is synth_voicename_full_155mrf22_270_06.dat, this is the premium
variant, again, the one which has compression on it. This is the one iOS
downloads for Siri, at least on my iPod touch 5. And, not surprisingly,
below that, is synth_lee_full_vssq5_f22.dat, the premium high version, the
largest one, just choose the one you want.

Then we have the lexicon files. THe one with dri40 in the name is for
standard, and the one with full is, not surprisingly, for premium. THe
compact lexicon is included in iOS already. No idea  how NVDA gets it.
  Again, take the one appropriate to the variant you picked.
You may have noticed we have everything... except brokerhdr. Well, you will
find it in the vautov5 folder. But what the! THere are many hdr files here!
What to do!
Well, it's simple. Notice that the names correspond to the .dat files.
SO there is a hdr file for compact, standard, standard high, premium, and
premium high. Just get the one appropriate to what variant you have, put it
with everything else, and rename it to broker.hdr.
That's it! Now go and delete the files from your iDevice, and upload your
new voice. You can access it by selecting what ever language you replaced
from the roter, so in our case, Lee will now be under US English.

If you're running 7 x64 or OSx, you'll be unable to install iPhone folders,
so instead, do the following:

1: Open Cydia then search for and install openssh.
2: On your device, navigate to settings > wifi > network name more info
(Where network name is the name of the network your connected to) and make a
note of your ip address.
3: Using a program such as putty on Windows or the terminal on OSx, connect
to your iPhones newly installed SSH server using the ip address we've just
found.
4: Login with the fol

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-12 Thread igor_kaplan
Guys,

  Thanks so much for the wanderful instructions to change the voice.
Using those instructions I was able to configure both english and
russian voices on my iPhone to be high quolity. I am so happy now. I
also was able to fix the bug, which Apple interdused in IOS 6.1 with
Russian language, when voice was automaticly switching to Korean
instead of Russian. Now everything works just fine.

Many, many thanks.

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Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi Courtney,

Yes - you should be able to do it under OSx, but unfortunately I don't
know any programs like winSCP or iPhone Folders that work under OSx.
Essentially, you need to be able to obtain read and write access to
the file system in order to copy the new voices to the phone.
Hopefully one of the Mac users will be able to chime in here with a suggestion?

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/12/13, ben blatchford  wrote:
> Sorry about that.
> Here are the steps to replace, for example, Samantha with Tom.
> Note: you must be jailbroken to do this, and be connected to wifi. I don't
> know if this works on mac, since I did this using a windows laptop.
>
> Steps:
> 1. go in to cydia, go to search, and type in openssh. Click on the ferst
> result, install it, wait until it finishes, and click return to cydia.
> 2. Go on your computer, go to google, and type in winSCP.
> 3. go to the first result, and click the download link and save and run the
> file like you normaly would, except when it asks if you want to use the
> comand line interface radio button, press down-arrow to get to the explorer
> interface radio button.
> 4. Open winSCP, and in the host field, type in your IP address of your IOS
> device. This can be found in settings, wifi, and right beside your networks
> name, there will be a "more info, name of network, whare name of network
> represents the name of your wireless network that you are connected to),
> double tap on that, and flick right until you get to a field that says, IP
> Address: blank blank blank dot blank blank blank dot blank blank blank
> (whare blank is represented by the numbers of your IP address of your IOS
> device)
> 5. type that in to the host field, press tab, type in root  as the username,
> press tab, and for the password, type in alpine, all lower-cased.
> 6. press the enter key, and if a dialog appears that says something about a
> key, just click yes.
> 7. Press backspace a couple of times until you get to the / directtory of
> your IOS device.
> 8. press v until you get to var, press enter, navigate to libraries by
> pressing l, press enter, press v a couple of times until you here voice
> services, press enter, go to en-us, press enter, go to assets, which is the
> only item there, press enter, and then just leave that open.
> 9. Now, go back to the internet browser, go to www.vocalizer-nvda.com, click
> the download link, click tom from the united states heading, and then save
> the file.
> 10. Once the download is complete, open the folder whare the .NVDA-AddOn
> file is, press f2 to rename the file, and change the file extention from
> .nvdaAdd-on to .zip. You will get a warning that you are changing a file
> extention and that the file may become unusable. Just ignore that and click
> yes.
> 11. Then, extract the zip file in its own folder, and within that folder, go
> to enu\speech\components, and then you will see a file name synth_tom_full
> something something dot dat, the first synth_tom_full is the premium, which
> is the one that IOS uses. Then, press F2 on that file, and delete the part
> that says tom, and replace it with the name, samantha, all lowercase. The
> filename should now read: synth_samantha_full_ blah blah dot dat. also,
> replace the USelect_tom_full.dat, deleting the word tom, and replacing it
> with samantha. then go in to that winSCP window and delete the two
> synth_samantha-full and the USelect_samantha_full dot dat. go back in to
> your components window with thoughs to files renamed, and copy thoughs files
> to the clipboard by selecting both thoughs files, and pressing CTRL+C.
> Then go back in to that winSCP window, and press CTRL+V, press the enter key
> to accept the difult location, and wait a while. Plese note: to avoid any
> problems, I recomend switching over to the compact samantha voice before
> doing this process. if you don't there may be a possibility you *may* loose
> speech. Then, once the files are copied, you can close down all thoughs
> windows, click the OK button if WinSCP asks you are you sure that you want
> to abort the connection, and switch off the compact voice option, and
> thats it! you now have tom running on your IOS device. The full version of
> tom, not the compacted version.
> HTH,
> ben
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> Will this work if you have a mac? I don't have any access to windows
>> whatsoever, and I want to change the voice on the phone, will it work? And
>> I have the iPhone 4s as well.
>> Courtney
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iMac
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below
>>> was taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
>>> Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:
>>>
>>> 1: download and install this:
>>> http://iphonefolders.com/
>>> 2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have
>>> access to the entire f

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread ben blatchford
Sorry about that.
Here are the steps to replace, for example, Samantha with Tom.
Note: you must be jailbroken to do this, and be connected to wifi. I don't know 
if this works on mac, since I did this using a windows laptop.

Steps:
1. go in to cydia, go to search, and type in openssh. Click on the ferst 
result, install it, wait until it finishes, and click return to cydia.
2. Go on your computer, go to google, and type in winSCP.
3. go to the first result, and click the download link and save and run the 
file like you normaly would, except when it asks if you want to use the comand 
line interface radio button, press down-arrow to get to the explorer interface 
radio button.
4. Open winSCP, and in the host field, type in your IP address of your IOS 
device. This can be found in settings, wifi, and right beside your networks 
name, there will be a "more info, name of network, whare name of network 
represents the name of your wireless network that you are connected to), double 
tap on that, and flick right until you get to a field that says, IP Address: 
blank blank blank dot blank blank blank dot blank blank blank (whare blank is 
represented by the numbers of your IP address of your IOS device)
5. type that in to the host field, press tab, type in root  as the username, 
press tab, and for the password, type in alpine, all lower-cased.
6. press the enter key, and if a dialog appears that says something about a 
key, just click yes.
7. Press backspace a couple of times until you get to the / directtory of your 
IOS device.
8. press v until you get to var, press enter, navigate to libraries by pressing 
l, press enter, press v a couple of times until you here voice services, press 
enter, go to en-us, press enter, go to assets, which is the only item there, 
press enter, and then just leave that open.
9. Now, go back to the internet browser, go to www.vocalizer-nvda.com, click 
the download link, click tom from the united states heading, and then save the 
file.
10. Once the download is complete, open the folder whare the .NVDA-AddOn file 
is, press f2 to rename the file, and change the file extention from .nvdaAdd-on 
to .zip. You will get a warning that you are changing a file extention and that 
the file may become unusable. Just ignore that and click yes.
11. Then, extract the zip file in its own folder, and within that folder, go to 
enu\speech\components, and then you will see a file name synth_tom_full 
something something dot dat, the first synth_tom_full is the premium, which is 
the one that IOS uses. Then, press F2 on that file, and delete the part that 
says tom, and replace it with the name, samantha, all lowercase. The filename 
should now read: synth_samantha_full_ blah blah dot dat. also, replace the 
USelect_tom_full.dat, deleting the word tom, and replacing it with samantha. 
then go in to that winSCP window and delete the two synth_samantha-full and the 
USelect_samantha_full dot dat. go back in to your components window with 
thoughs to files renamed, and copy thoughs files to the clipboard by selecting 
both thoughs files, and pressing CTRL+C.
Then go back in to that winSCP window, and press CTRL+V, press the enter key to 
accept the difult location, and wait a while. Plese note: to avoid any 
problems, I recomend switching over to the compact samantha voice before doing 
this process. if you don't there may be a possibility you *may* loose speech. 
Then, once the files are copied, you can close down all thoughs windows, click 
the OK button if WinSCP asks you are you sure that you want to abort the 
connection, and switch off the compact voice option, and
thats it! you now have tom running on your IOS device. The full version of tom, 
not the compacted version.
HTH,
ben
Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:25 PM, Moop Curran  wrote:

> Hi,
> Will this work if you have a mac? I don't have any access to windows 
> whatsoever, and I want to change the voice on the phone, will it work? And I 
> have the iPhone 4s as well.
> Courtney
> 
> 
> Sent from my iMac
> 
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below
>> was taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
>> Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:
>> 
>> 1: download and install this:
>> http://iphonefolders.com/
>> 2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have
>> access to the entire file system. If you're not jailbroken you'll only
>> be able to browse the media folder and this hack will not be possible
>> for you unfortunately.
>> 3: Download the voice that you want from http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com
>> 4: On your computer, navigate to
>> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VoiceServices.framework/TTSResources/
>> on your device.
>> 
>> Now you should see subfolders with language codes. You can, however,
>> ignore these and drop in any other data you wish and it will work (in
>> fact, for t

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Moop Curran
Hi,
Will this work if you have a mac? I don't have any access to windows 
whatsoever, and I want to change the voice on the phone, will it work? And I 
have the iPhone 4s as well.
Courtney


Sent from my iMac

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:08 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below
> was taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
> Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:
> 
> 1: download and install this:
> http://iphonefolders.com/
> 2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have
> access to the entire file system. If you're not jailbroken you'll only
> be able to browse the media folder and this hack will not be possible
> for you unfortunately.
> 3: Download the voice that you want from http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com
> 4: On your computer, navigate to
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VoiceServices.framework/TTSResources/
> on your device.
> 
> Now you should see subfolders with language codes. You can, however,
> ignore these and drop in any other data you wish and it will work (in
> fact, for the sake of this guide, we'll be replacing samantha with
> Lee, but other combinations will work as well)
> Enter one of these folders. You will see a file called broker.hdr, a
> few dat files, and a text file called user_rules.txt. This file is
> custom written by Apple, and it can be used as a dictionary (ever
> wondered why your iDevice pronounces artists like Rihanna correctly?
> Well, there you go). You can either leave it as is, or replace it by
> the file of the language you're replacing it with (IE, since I'm
> replacing Sammy with Lee, I could take the rules file out of then
> en-AU folder. But since that file is much smaller, I chose not to.)
> Now, go ahead and make a backup of this folder in case you break
> something - E.G. copy paste to a folder on your computer.
> 
> We'll now prepare the voice data:
> 
> Time to look at the NVDA vocalizer driver. When you open the adon's
> zip file or folder, you will see a locale folder, which contains
> strings for NVDA< and a folder with the language code (for lee, it's
> ENA), and you want to go there. There will be only a speech folder so
> enter that as well. Now you'll see 2 folders, components, and vautov5.
> The components folder will have a bunch of dat files. You will
> definitely need these 3,  languagecode and voicename will change
> depending what voice you're working with
> clc_languagecode_cfg3.dat
> clc_languagecode_voicename_cfg3.dat
> select_voicename_bet2f22.dat
> 
> The 2 files below contain the voice data for the standard variant:
> synth_voicename_dri40_155mrf22_270_06.dat, or something to that
> effect, is the standard variant, which has a bunch of compression on
> it.
> synth_voicename_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat is the standard high version,
> which sounds very similar to the premium variant, and I'd recommend
> using this one.
> next is synth_voicename_full_155mrf22_270_06.dat, this is the premium
> variant, again, the one which has compression on it. This is the one
> iOS downloads for Siri, at least on my iPod touch 5. And, not
> surprisingly, below that, is synth_lee_full_vssq5_f22.dat, the premium
> high version, the largest one, just choose the one you want.
> 
> Then we have the lexicon files. THe one with dri40 in the name is for
> standard, and the one with full is, not surprisingly, for premium. THe
> compact lexicon is included in iOS already. No idea  how NVDA gets it.
>  Again, take the one appropriate to the variant you picked.
> You may have noticed we have everything... except brokerhdr. Well, you
> will find it in the vautov5 folder. But what the! THere are many hdr
> files here! What to do!
> Well, it's simple. Notice that the names correspond to the .dat files.
> SO there is a hdr file for compact, standard, standard high, premium,
> and premium high. Just get the one appropriate to what variant you
> have, put it with everything else, and rename it to broker.hdr.
> That's it! Now go and delete the files from your iDevice, and upload
> your new voice. You can access it by selecting what ever language you
> replaced from the roter, so in our case, Lee will now be under US
> English.
> 
> If you're running 7 x64 or OSx, you'll be unable to install iPhone
> folders, so instead, do the following:
> 
> 1: Open Cydia then search for and install openssh.
> 2: On your device, navigate to settings > wifi > network name more
> info (Where network name is the name of the network your connected to)
> and make a note of your ip address.
> 3: Using a program such as putty on Windows or the terminal on OSx,
> connect to your iPhones newly installed SSH server using the ip
> address we've just found.
> 4: Login with the following credentials:
> User: root
> Password: alpine
> 5: Type "passwd" without the quotes and change your password by
> following the onscreen instructions. This step is important.
> 6: You now need a method of tran

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Ben Blatchford
Sorry about that, I was using dictation to write that message.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below
> was taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
> Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:
> 
> 1: download and install this:
> http://iphonefolders.com/
> 2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have
> access to the entire file system. If you're not jailbroken you'll only
> be able to browse the media folder and this hack will not be possible
> for you unfortunately.
> 3: Download the voice that you want from http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com
> 4: On your computer, navigate to
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VoiceServices.framework/TTSResources/
> on your device.
> 
> Now you should see subfolders with language codes. You can, however,
> ignore these and drop in any other data you wish and it will work (in
> fact, for the sake of this guide, we'll be replacing samantha with
> Lee, but other combinations will work as well)
> Enter one of these folders. You will see a file called broker.hdr, a
> few dat files, and a text file called user_rules.txt. This file is
> custom written by Apple, and it can be used as a dictionary (ever
> wondered why your iDevice pronounces artists like Rihanna correctly?
> Well, there you go). You can either leave it as is, or replace it by
> the file of the language you're replacing it with (IE, since I'm
> replacing Sammy with Lee, I could take the rules file out of then
> en-AU folder. But since that file is much smaller, I chose not to.)
> Now, go ahead and make a backup of this folder in case you break
> something - E.G. copy paste to a folder on your computer.
> 
> We'll now prepare the voice data:
> 
> Time to look at the NVDA vocalizer driver. When you open the adon's
> zip file or folder, you will see a locale folder, which contains
> strings for NVDA< and a folder with the language code (for lee, it's
> ENA), and you want to go there. There will be only a speech folder so
> enter that as well. Now you'll see 2 folders, components, and vautov5.
> The components folder will have a bunch of dat files. You will
> definitely need these 3,  languagecode and voicename will change
> depending what voice you're working with
> clc_languagecode_cfg3.dat
> clc_languagecode_voicename_cfg3.dat
> select_voicename_bet2f22.dat
> 
> The 2 files below contain the voice data for the standard variant:
> synth_voicename_dri40_155mrf22_270_06.dat, or something to that
> effect, is the standard variant, which has a bunch of compression on
> it.
> synth_voicename_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat is the standard high version,
> which sounds very similar to the premium variant, and I'd recommend
> using this one.
> next is synth_voicename_full_155mrf22_270_06.dat, this is the premium
> variant, again, the one which has compression on it. This is the one
> iOS downloads for Siri, at least on my iPod touch 5. And, not
> surprisingly, below that, is synth_lee_full_vssq5_f22.dat, the premium
> high version, the largest one, just choose the one you want.
> 
> Then we have the lexicon files. THe one with dri40 in the name is for
> standard, and the one with full is, not surprisingly, for premium. THe
> compact lexicon is included in iOS already. No idea  how NVDA gets it.
>  Again, take the one appropriate to the variant you picked.
> You may have noticed we have everything... except brokerhdr. Well, you
> will find it in the vautov5 folder. But what the! THere are many hdr
> files here! What to do!
> Well, it's simple. Notice that the names correspond to the .dat files.
> SO there is a hdr file for compact, standard, standard high, premium,
> and premium high. Just get the one appropriate to what variant you
> have, put it with everything else, and rename it to broker.hdr.
> That's it! Now go and delete the files from your iDevice, and upload
> your new voice. You can access it by selecting what ever language you
> replaced from the roter, so in our case, Lee will now be under US
> English.
> 
> If you're running 7 x64 or OSx, you'll be unable to install iPhone
> folders, so instead, do the following:
> 
> 1: Open Cydia then search for and install openssh.
> 2: On your device, navigate to settings > wifi > network name more
> info (Where network name is the name of the network your connected to)
> and make a note of your ip address.
> 3: Using a program such as putty on Windows or the terminal on OSx,
> connect to your iPhones newly installed SSH server using the ip
> address we've just found.
> 4: Login with the following credentials:
> User: root
> Password: alpine
> 5: Type "passwd" without the quotes and change your password by
> following the onscreen instructions. This step is important.
> 6: You now need a method of transfering files to your device; Putty
> comes with a console app called psftp that will do this, although you
> may find winSCP

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Lets try and condense Bens instructions a little. Part of the below
was taken from a guide originally created by @pitermach on Twitter.
Assuming you're running Windows - not 7 x64:

1: download and install this:
http://iphonefolders.com/
2: connect your device and find it in my computer; make sure you have
access to the entire file system. If you're not jailbroken you'll only
be able to browse the media folder and this hack will not be possible
for you unfortunately.
3: Download the voice that you want from http://www.vocalizer-nvda.com
4: On your computer, navigate to
/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/VoiceServices.framework/TTSResources/
on your device.

Now you should see subfolders with language codes. You can, however,
ignore these and drop in any other data you wish and it will work (in
fact, for the sake of this guide, we'll be replacing samantha with
Lee, but other combinations will work as well)
Enter one of these folders. You will see a file called broker.hdr, a
few dat files, and a text file called user_rules.txt. This file is
custom written by Apple, and it can be used as a dictionary (ever
wondered why your iDevice pronounces artists like Rihanna correctly?
Well, there you go). You can either leave it as is, or replace it by
the file of the language you're replacing it with (IE, since I'm
replacing Sammy with Lee, I could take the rules file out of then
en-AU folder. But since that file is much smaller, I chose not to.)
Now, go ahead and make a backup of this folder in case you break
something - E.G. copy paste to a folder on your computer.

We'll now prepare the voice data:

Time to look at the NVDA vocalizer driver. When you open the adon's
zip file or folder, you will see a locale folder, which contains
strings for NVDA< and a folder with the language code (for lee, it's
ENA), and you want to go there. There will be only a speech folder so
enter that as well. Now you'll see 2 folders, components, and vautov5.
The components folder will have a bunch of dat files. You will
definitely need these 3,  languagecode and voicename will change
depending what voice you're working with
clc_languagecode_cfg3.dat
clc_languagecode_voicename_cfg3.dat
select_voicename_bet2f22.dat

The 2 files below contain the voice data for the standard variant:
synth_voicename_dri40_155mrf22_270_06.dat, or something to that
effect, is the standard variant, which has a bunch of compression on
it.
synth_voicename_dri40_vssq5_f22.dat is the standard high version,
which sounds very similar to the premium variant, and I'd recommend
using this one.
next is synth_voicename_full_155mrf22_270_06.dat, this is the premium
variant, again, the one which has compression on it. This is the one
iOS downloads for Siri, at least on my iPod touch 5. And, not
surprisingly, below that, is synth_lee_full_vssq5_f22.dat, the premium
high version, the largest one, just choose the one you want.

Then we have the lexicon files. THe one with dri40 in the name is for
standard, and the one with full is, not surprisingly, for premium. THe
compact lexicon is included in iOS already. No idea  how NVDA gets it.
  Again, take the one appropriate to the variant you picked.
You may have noticed we have everything... except brokerhdr. Well, you
will find it in the vautov5 folder. But what the! THere are many hdr
files here! What to do!
Well, it's simple. Notice that the names correspond to the .dat files.
SO there is a hdr file for compact, standard, standard high, premium,
and premium high. Just get the one appropriate to what variant you
have, put it with everything else, and rename it to broker.hdr.
That's it! Now go and delete the files from your iDevice, and upload
your new voice. You can access it by selecting what ever language you
replaced from the roter, so in our case, Lee will now be under US
English.

If you're running 7 x64 or OSx, you'll be unable to install iPhone
folders, so instead, do the following:

1: Open Cydia then search for and install openssh.
2: On your device, navigate to settings > wifi > network name more
info (Where network name is the name of the network your connected to)
and make a note of your ip address.
3: Using a program such as putty on Windows or the terminal on OSx,
connect to your iPhones newly installed SSH server using the ip
address we've just found.
4: Login with the following credentials:
User: root
Password: alpine
5: Type "passwd" without the quotes and change your password by
following the onscreen instructions. This step is important.
6: You now need a method of transfering files to your device; Putty
comes with a console app called psftp that will do this, although you
may find winSCP more friendly. Unfortunately I'm unsure of what
options you have if you're running OSx. You will need to authenticate
again; the user will still be root however the password will now be
the new password that you created above.
Now continue with the above guide from step 4; note that you no longer
need openssh installed onc

Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
I don't understand those directions either, but I would like to use Tom as the 
voice. So could someone please make clear, detailed instructions available? 
Thank you.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Feb 11, 2013, at 7:08 PM, "Reinhard Stebner"  wrote:

> I do not understand the below directions. Could you please explain what you 
> are trying to say?
> 
> Siri. Once that is going to kick the return to simulate and then press your 
> home button to return to your home screen. Go to the page that Heitor setting 
> up double tap on the settings I don't think your Wi-Fi settings and make sure 
> you are connected to your wireless network if you are, right next to your 
> wireless network name, they will there will be a "more info name of network 
> button" that you need to double tap on. Once you double tap on the button, 
> another dialogue will come up. There will be Elysse Roxies. Under the IP 
> address there will be a number readout what you need to do is you need to go 
> on your computer go to Google type in W I N space SCP and press your answer 
> key go to the first link that appears in the search results and click the 
> download link.
> Then download that software and install it as I do what any other software. 
> Open it up and type in your IP address of your iPhone that was given to you 
> in your Wi-Fi settings if you can't find it look around interview here you a 
> interview here: "IP address: 192.168 something.something" or whatever it says 
> after the IP address that is a number. Type that in into the host Field crest 
> have typed in route are OLT as a username and press tab in the password field 
> type in AL P IND and then press the enter key you may get a dialog that says 
> something about a copy Jessica Don yes to continue then you will be brought 
> up and your iPhone's file system will be displayed press the backspace key to 
> make sure you're at the top level on your iPhone filesystem present before of 
> our press enter go to library precentor go to war services by pressing the 
> couple times until you reach was services press enter press enter again on on 
> E – then press enter on assets and then you would brought up to a filesystem 
> that will list all the files for the full Senate the voice please note, to 
> avoid any issues, I recommend switching to the compact Samantha voice if you 
> have that on your phone. That will avoid any issues with with transferring 
> over to your phone and and it will protect you from using your speech or 
> together.
> Then, still on your computer, don't close that window, and then go to the 
> Internet browser and then do a Google search for vocalizer Gallasch and the D 
> a and press enter then the first one is probably the link that you want to 
> click.
> Click that link, click the download link, and then choose Tom from the 
> English United States heading.
> Save the file do not open it save the file and that that download. I'll 
> continue this post later. I'll send this now, and let you do that for now.
> Hope's help, Ben
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
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RE: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Reinhard Stebner
I do not understand the below directions. Could you please explain what you are 
trying to say?

Siri. Once that is going to kick the return to simulate and then press your 
home button to return to your home screen. Go to the page that Heitor setting 
up double tap on the settings I don't think your Wi-Fi settings and make sure 
you are connected to your wireless network if you are, right next to your 
wireless network name, they will there will be a "more info name of network 
button" that you need to double tap on. Once you double tap on the button, 
another dialogue will come up. There will be Elysse Roxies. Under the IP 
address there will be a number readout what you need to do is you need to go on 
your computer go to Google type in W I N space SCP and press your answer key go 
to the first link that appears in the search results and click the download 
link.
Then download that software and install it as I do what any other software. 
Open it up and type in your IP address of your iPhone that was given to you in 
your Wi-Fi settings if you can't find it look around interview here you a 
interview here: "IP address: 192.168 something.something" or whatever it says 
after the IP address that is a number. Type that in into the host Field crest 
have typed in route are OLT as a username and press tab in the password field 
type in AL P IND and then press the enter key you may get a dialog that says 
something about a copy Jessica Don yes to continue then you will be brought up 
and your iPhone's file system will be displayed press the backspace key to make 
sure you're at the top level on your iPhone filesystem present before of our 
press enter go to library precentor go to war services by pressing the couple 
times until you reach was services press enter press enter again on on E – then 
press enter on assets and then you would brought up to a filesystem that will 
list all the files for the full Senate the voice please note, to avoid any 
issues, I recommend switching to the compact Samantha voice if you have that on 
your phone. That will avoid any issues with with transferring over to your 
phone and and it will protect you from using your speech or together.
Then, still on your computer, don't close that window, and then go to the 
Internet browser and then do a Google search for vocalizer Gallasch and the D a 
and press enter then the first one is probably the link that you want to click.
Click that link, click the download link, and then choose Tom from the English 
United States heading.
Save the file do not open it save the file and that that download. I'll 
continue this post later. I'll send this now, and let you do that for now.
Hope's help, Ben

Sent from my iPhone


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RE: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Reinhard Stebner
I am unable to find Okane SSH. Did you mean open SSH?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Ben Blatchford
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

Hi,
I have Tom working on my iPhone 4. You have to be jailbroken, which I assume 
you are. I am going to outline the steps below:
Number one. Go into Cydia, go to search, and type in Okane SSH.
Two. Install open SSH by clicking the install button then topping confirm.
Siri. Once that is going to kick the return to simulate and then press your 
home button to return to your home screen. Go to the page that Heitor setting 
up double tap on the settings I don't think your Wi-Fi settings and make sure 
you are connected to your wireless network if you are, right next to your 
wireless network name, they will there will be a "more info name of network 
button" that you need to double tap on. Once you double tap on the button, 
another dialogue will come up. There will be Elysse Roxies. Under the IP 
address there will be a number readout what you need to do is you need to go on 
your computer go to Google type in W I N space SCP and press your answer key go 
to the first link that appears in the search results and click the download 
link.
Then download that software and install it as I do what any other software. 
Open it up and type in your IP address of your iPhone that was given to you in 
your Wi-Fi settings if you can't find it look around interview here you a 
interview here: "IP address: 192.168 something.something" or whatever it says 
after the IP address that is a number. Type that in into the host Field crest 
have typed in route are OLT as a username and press tab in the password field 
type in AL P IND and then press the enter key you may get a dialog that says 
something about a copy Jessica Don yes to continue then you will be brought up 
and your iPhone's file system will be displayed press the backspace key to make 
sure you're at the top level on your iPhone filesystem present before of our 
press enter go to library precentor go to war services by pressing the couple 
times until you reach was services press enter press enter again on on E – then 
press enter on assets and then you would brought up to a filesystem that will 
list all the files for the full Senate the voice please note, to avoid any 
issues, I recommend switching to the compact Samantha voice if you have that on 
your phone. That will avoid any issues with with transferring over to your 
phone and and it will protect you from using your speech or together.
Then, still on your computer, don't close that window, and then go to the 
Internet browser and then do a Google search for vocalizer Gallasch and the D a 
and press enter then the first one is probably the link that you want to click.
Click that link, click the download link, and then choose Tom from the English 
United States heading.
Save the file do not open it save the file and that that download. I'll 
continue this post later. I'll send this now, and let you do that for now.
Hope's help, Ben

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:43 AM, PHILLIP TRACY  wrote:

> I would also like to know this, I have jailbroken my phone and would like the 
> Tom voice.
> 
> Phillip Tracy
> Sent from my iPhone.
> 
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Mária Orovčíková"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> I am asking this on behalf of my friend who is not a member of this list.
>> Is it possible to replace the Samantha voice with any other voices such as 
>> Tom, Daniel etc?
>> If so, can you please give me step by step instructions how to do that?
>> To avoid traffic, feel free to contact me off-list.
>> Thank you very much for your help.
>> Maria
>> 
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Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Ben Blatchford
Hi,
I have Tom working on my iPhone 4. You have to be jailbroken, which I assume 
you are. I am going to outline the steps below:
Number one. Go into Cydia, go to search, and type in Okane SSH.
Two. Install open SSH by clicking the install button then topping confirm.
Siri. Once that is going to kick the return to simulate and then press your 
home button to return to your home screen. Go to the page that Heitor setting 
up double tap on the settings I don't think your Wi-Fi settings and make sure 
you are connected to your wireless network if you are, right next to your 
wireless network name, they will there will be a "more info name of network 
button" that you need to double tap on. Once you double tap on the button, 
another dialogue will come up. There will be Elysse Roxies. Under the IP 
address there will be a number readout what you need to do is you need to go on 
your computer go to Google type in W I N space SCP and press your answer key go 
to the first link that appears in the search results and click the download 
link.
Then download that software and install it as I do what any other software. 
Open it up and type in your IP address of your iPhone that was given to you in 
your Wi-Fi settings if you can't find it look around interview here you a 
interview here: "IP address: 192.168 something.something" or whatever it says 
after the IP address that is a number. Type that in into the host Field crest 
have typed in route are OLT as a username and press tab in the password field 
type in AL P IND and then press the enter key you may get a dialog that says 
something about a copy Jessica Don yes to continue then you will be brought up 
and your iPhone's file system will be displayed press the backspace key to make 
sure you're at the top level on your iPhone filesystem present before of our 
press enter go to library precentor go to war services by pressing the couple 
times until you reach was services press enter press enter again on on E – then 
press enter on assets and then you would brought up to a filesystem that will 
list all the files for the full Senate the voice please note, to avoid any 
issues, I recommend switching to the compact Samantha voice if you have that on 
your phone. That will avoid any issues with with transferring over to your 
phone and and it will protect you from using your speech or together.
Then, still on your computer, don't close that window, and then go to the 
Internet browser and then do a Google search for vocalizer Gallasch and the D a 
and press enter then the first one is probably the link that you want to click.
Click that link, click the download link, and then choose Tom from the English 
United States heading.
Save the file do not open it save the file and that that download. I'll 
continue this post later. I'll send this now, and let you do that for now.
Hope's help, Ben

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 11, 2013, at 9:43 AM, PHILLIP TRACY  wrote:

> I would also like to know this, I have jailbroken my phone and would like the 
> Tom voice.
> 
> Phillip Tracy
> Sent from my iPhone.
> 
> On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Mária Orovčíková"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi list,
>> I am asking this on behalf of my friend who is not a member of this list.
>> Is it possible to replace the Samantha voice with any other voices such as 
>> Tom, Daniel etc?
>> If so, can you please give me step by step instructions how to do that?
>> To avoid traffic, feel free to contact me off-list.
>> Thank you very much for your help.
>> Maria
>> 
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Re: Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread PHILLIP TRACY
I would also like to know this, I have jailbroken my phone and would like the 
Tom voice.

Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone.

On Feb 11, 2013, at 11:39 AM, "Mária Orovčíková"  
wrote:

> Hi list,
> I am asking this on behalf of my friend who is not a member of this list.
> Is it possible to replace the Samantha voice with any other voices such as 
> Tom, Daniel etc?
> If so, can you please give me step by step instructions how to do that?
> To avoid traffic, feel free to contact me off-list.
> Thank you very much for your help.
> Maria
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Changing voices after jailbreaking the iphone 5, is that possible?

2013-02-11 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hi list,
I am asking this on behalf of my friend who is not a member of this list.
Is it possible to replace the Samantha voice with any other voices such 
as Tom, Daniel etc?

If so, can you please give me step by step instructions how to do that?
To avoid traffic, feel free to contact me off-list.
Thank you very much for your help.
Maria

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HowToGeek Article on Jailbreaking, Unlocking, etc.

2013-02-07 Thread Alan Lemly
Today's excellent Flying Blind, LLC newsletter had the following link to a
HowToGeek article discussing jailbreaking, etc. for those wanting an
overview:

 

http://www.howtogeek.com/135663/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-ja
ilbreaking-rooting-and-unlocking/?utm_source=newsletter
<http://www.howtogeek.com/135663/htg-explains-whats-the-difference-between-j
ailbreaking-rooting-and-unlocking/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&ut
m_campaign=310113> &utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=310113

 

Here's a TinyURL link to the same article in case the long one breaks:

 

http://tinyurl.com/b5dbfwk

 

Alan Lemly

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Another Jailbreaking Question

2013-02-05 Thread Scott Rumery
Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't seem 
to figure this one out on my own.

Scott

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Jailbreaking now legal under DMCA for smartphones, but not tablets | Ars Technica

2013-01-28 Thread Holly
Thought you all might be interested in this, though it's a few months old. The 
new rulings weren't much talked about.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/10/jailbreaking-now-legal-under-dmca-for-smartphones-but-not-tablets/

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Re: Jailbreaking do not disturb

2013-01-15 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, it's called RingerXvip. Yes, it can be applied for which ever hours 
you want.


Thanks.

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On 1/12/2013 12:56 PM, Negoslav Sabev wrote:

Hi, I'm interested in something you wrote.
quotation start
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
to a single contact or a group of contacts,
quotation end
How is this tweek called and does it allow DND to be applyed for surtain
hours?

Negoslav
- Original Message - From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate



Hi,

It's also worth pointing out that the most widely spoken about piece
of "Malware" (Incorrect term used by the media in this situation) that
you can be hit with after you've jailbroken relates to people who have
installed a ssh server and not changed the password.
Trust me when I say that you won't install a SSH server by accident.
In the same way that you won't ever open the app store, search for an
app, find it and then install it, all by accident. There have been
(And probably always will be) people that will install openSSH without
really knowing what it is; perhaps without even reading the
description of it in Cydia. In the nicest way possible, for these
people, a bit of real world education in the form of datatheft is
probably the only way they will learn to stop and think before they do
something. It's true that the stop and think mentality isn't as much
of an issue if you're not jailbroken, but it's a good attitude to
adopt full stop and not just when you're using your smartphone.

The people that argue that jailbreak apps can steel your data are
correct, but again, this is extremely unlikely to happen when using
the default repositories in Cydia. It's also important to remember
that Apple don't have access to the source code of any of the apps
they approve so its entirely possible (But unlikely) that the exact
thing could happen when you install an Apple approved app. Long time
subscribers will be aware of the amount of tethering apps that have
been approved because they've been diskised as something more mundain
like a flashlight - if Apple had access to the source code and
inspected it, this would not happen.
Getting back to the jailbreak apps issue, you're far more likely to
experience security related problems if you add other repositories to
Cydia which there usually isn't any need to do and again, you won't
ever do it inadvertently. For me this really isn't a problem, as it
fairly closely mirrors life in general. If you walk through a rough
area at night, you're far more likely to run into problems. If you buy
food from a restaurant that seems shady, guess what, it's probably not
going to be that great and there could even be repercussions in the
future.
You don't (Or shouldn't imo) restrict your lifes activities to those
that your parents have approved for you (Age permitting) and generally
speaking, you will excersise good judgement before you make any
decissions throughout your life, so personally, I really see no reason
why things should be different when you use an iPhone.

I've never said that jailbreaking is for everyone and I never will.
The problem that new users often run into is that they're served a lot
of speculation by some people (Not targeting you here sieghard) on
this list who really have no experience or even worse knolige of
jailbreaking, so the questioner receives missinformation.

Just some food for thought; others will doubtless disagree.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/10/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hi, if you are using iOS 6 then jailbreaking it isn't worth it. Please
Google for the differences between tethered and untethered jailbreaks
and it will be more clear. Basically right now untethered jailbreaks for
iOS 6 are not available.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his
name. - Evan Esar
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 8:52 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote:

Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible
jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't
know
until much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really
wanting to use my googe voice number as a real phone and if I can
integrate it into my iPod a little better I'd love that. Thanks and
take
care.
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I too have a

Jailbreaking do not disturb

2013-01-12 Thread Negoslav Sabev

Hi, I'm interested in something you wrote.
quotation start
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied to 
a single contact or a group of contacts,

quotation end
How is this tweek called and does it allow DND to be applyed for surtain 
hours?


Negoslav
- Original Message - 
From: "Ben Mustill-Rose" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate



Hi,

It's also worth pointing out that the most widely spoken about piece
of "Malware" (Incorrect term used by the media in this situation) that
you can be hit with after you've jailbroken relates to people who have
installed a ssh server and not changed the password.
Trust me when I say that you won't install a SSH server by accident.
In the same way that you won't ever open the app store, search for an
app, find it and then install it, all by accident. There have been
(And probably always will be) people that will install openSSH without
really knowing what it is; perhaps without even reading the
description of it in Cydia. In the nicest way possible, for these
people, a bit of real world education in the form of datatheft is
probably the only way they will learn to stop and think before they do
something. It's true that the stop and think mentality isn't as much
of an issue if you're not jailbroken, but it's a good attitude to
adopt full stop and not just when you're using your smartphone.

The people that argue that jailbreak apps can steel your data are
correct, but again, this is extremely unlikely to happen when using
the default repositories in Cydia. It's also important to remember
that Apple don't have access to the source code of any of the apps
they approve so its entirely possible (But unlikely) that the exact
thing could happen when you install an Apple approved app. Long time
subscribers will be aware of the amount of tethering apps that have
been approved because they've been diskised as something more mundain
like a flashlight - if Apple had access to the source code and
inspected it, this would not happen.
Getting back to the jailbreak apps issue, you're far more likely to
experience security related problems if you add other repositories to
Cydia which there usually isn't any need to do and again, you won't
ever do it inadvertently. For me this really isn't a problem, as it
fairly closely mirrors life in general. If you walk through a rough
area at night, you're far more likely to run into problems. If you buy
food from a restaurant that seems shady, guess what, it's probably not
going to be that great and there could even be repercussions in the
future.
You don't (Or shouldn't imo) restrict your lifes activities to those
that your parents have approved for you (Age permitting) and generally
speaking, you will excersise good judgement before you make any
decissions throughout your life, so personally, I really see no reason
why things should be different when you use an iPhone.

I've never said that jailbreaking is for everyone and I never will.
The problem that new users often run into is that they're served a lot
of speculation by some people (Not targeting you here sieghard) on
this list who really have no experience or even worse knolige of
jailbreaking, so the questioner receives missinformation.

Just some food for thought; others will doubtless disagree.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/10/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:

Hi, if you are using iOS 6 then jailbreaking it isn't worth it. Please
Google for the differences between tethered and untethered jailbreaks
and it will be more clear. Basically right now untethered jailbreaks for
iOS 6 are not available.

Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his
name. - Evan Esar
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 8:52 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote:

Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible
jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't 
know

until much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really
wanting to use my googe voice number as a real phone and if I can
integrate it into my iPod a little better I'd love that. Thanks and take
care.
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is 
on
Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any 
different

than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.

On 10/01/13 04:

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

It's also worth pointing out that the most widely spoken about piece
of "Malware" (Incorrect term used by the media in this situation) that
you can be hit with after you've jailbroken relates to people who have
installed a ssh server and not changed the password.
Trust me when I say that you won't install a SSH server by accident.
In the same way that you won't ever open the app store, search for an
app, find it and then install it, all by accident. There have been
(And probably always will be) people that will install openSSH without
really knowing what it is; perhaps without even reading the
description of it in Cydia. In the nicest way possible, for these
people, a bit of real world education in the form of datatheft is
probably the only way they will learn to stop and think before they do
something. It's true that the stop and think mentality isn't as much
of an issue if you're not jailbroken, but it's a good attitude to
adopt full stop and not just when you're using your smartphone.

The people that argue that jailbreak apps can steel your data are
correct, but again, this is extremely unlikely to happen when using
the default repositories in Cydia. It's also important to remember
that Apple don't have access to the source code of any of the apps
they approve so its entirely possible (But unlikely) that the exact
thing could happen when you install an Apple approved app. Long time
subscribers will be aware of the amount of tethering apps that have
been approved because they've been diskised as something more mundain
like a flashlight - if Apple had access to the source code and
inspected it, this would not happen.
Getting back to the jailbreak apps issue, you're far more likely to
experience security related problems if you add other repositories to
Cydia which there usually isn't any need to do and again, you won't
ever do it inadvertently. For me this really isn't a problem, as it
fairly closely mirrors life in general. If you walk through a rough
area at night, you're far more likely to run into problems. If you buy
food from a restaurant that seems shady, guess what, it's probably not
going to be that great and there could even be repercussions in the
future.
You don't (Or shouldn't imo) restrict your lifes activities to those
that your parents have approved for you (Age permitting) and generally
speaking, you will excersise good judgement before you make any
decissions throughout your life, so personally, I really see no reason
why things should be different when you use an iPhone.

I've never said that jailbreaking is for everyone and I never will.
The problem that new users often run into is that they're served a lot
of speculation by some people (Not targeting you here sieghard) on
this list who really have no experience or even worse knolige of
jailbreaking, so the questioner receives missinformation.

Just some food for thought; others will doubtless disagree.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 1/10/13, Raul A. Gallegos  wrote:
> Hi, if you are using iOS 6 then jailbreaking it isn't worth it. Please
> Google for the differences between tethered and untethered jailbreaks
> and it will be more clear. Basically right now untethered jailbreaks for
> iOS 6 are not available.
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his
> name. - Evan Esar
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>
> On 1/10/2013 8:52 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote:
>> Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible
>> jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't know
>> until much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really
>> wanting to use my googe voice number as a real phone and if I can
>> integrate it into my iPod a little better I'd love that. Thanks and take
>> care.
>> On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>
>>> I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
>>> difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
>>> a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
>>> Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
>>> than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
>>> common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.
>>>
>>> On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>>> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
>>>> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
>>>> wha

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, if you are using iOS 6 then jailbreaking it isn't worth it. Please 
Google for the differences between tethered and untethered jailbreaks 
and it will be more clear. Basically right now untethered jailbreaks for 
iOS 6 are not available.


Good luck.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
A signature always reveals a man's character - and sometimes even his 
name. - Evan Esar

Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 8:52 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote:

Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible 
jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't know until 
much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really wanting to use my 
googe voice number as a real phone and if I can integrate it into my iPod a 
little better I'd love that. Thanks and take care.
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.

On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
number.

I hope this other viewpoint helps.

PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
opposite. .

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
Rodney Dangerfield
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Mohammed,

I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
code (a
huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
safer
user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
tech user it's not for me.

I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
Jailbreakers
as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
6 you
are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
find
a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer
should it
crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Mohammed abbas Rashid
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
As I think Sieghard pointed out, there is no untethered jail break for
IOS 6 yet. Jail breaking is pretty trivial once there is an untethered
jail break available. Raul or someone on this list pointed to
instructions on jail breaking 5.1.1 when it was available, and like I
said, they were pretty trivial to follow.

On 10/01/13 08:52, Timothy Emmons wrote:
> Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible 
> jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't know 
> until much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really wanting 
> to use my googe voice number as a real phone and if I can integrate it into 
> my iPod a little better I'd love that. Thanks and take care. 
> On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> 
>> I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
>> difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
>> a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
>> Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
>> than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
>> common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.
>>
>> On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
>>> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
>>> what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
>>> view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
>>> points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
>>> jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
>>> more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
>>> install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
>>> installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
>>> jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
>>> running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
>>> untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
>>> of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
>>> in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
>>> I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
>>> Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
>>> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
>>> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
>>> GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
>>> it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
>>> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
>>> to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
>>> theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
>>> Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
>>> number.
>>>
>>> I hope this other viewpoint helps.
>>>
>>> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
>>> you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
>>> opposite. .
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
>>> Rodney Dangerfield
>>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>>>
>>> On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>>>
>>>> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
>>>> since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
>>>> code (a
>>>> huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
>>>> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
>>>> safer
>>>> user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
>>>> Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
>>>> think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
>>>> tech user it's not for me.
>>>>
>>>> I am sure you will receive plenty o

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Timothy Emmons
Raul Can you or someone email me offlist and tell me how to if possible 
jailbrak my iPod 4th gen? I had it updated to iOS 6 because I didn't know until 
much later that jailbreaking was even possible but I'm really wanting to use my 
googe voice number as a real phone and if I can integrate it into my iPod a 
little better I'd love that. Thanks and take care. 
On Jan 10, 2013, at 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
> difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
> a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
> Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
> than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
> common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.
> 
> On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
>> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
>> what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
>> view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
>> points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
>> jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
>> more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
>> install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
>> installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
>> jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
>> running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
>> untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
>> of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
>> in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
>> I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
>> Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
>> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
>> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
>> GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
>> it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
>> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
>> to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
>> theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
>> Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
>> number.
>> 
>> I hope this other viewpoint helps.
>> 
>> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
>> you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
>> opposite. .
>> 
>> -- 
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
>> Rodney Dangerfield
>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>> 
>>> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
>>> since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
>>> code (a
>>> huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
>>> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
>>> safer
>>> user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
>>> Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
>>> think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
>>> tech user it's not for me.
>>> 
>>> I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
>>> Jailbreakers
>>> as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
>>> 6 you
>>> are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
>>> find
>>> a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer
>>> should it
>>> crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
>>> having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
>>> untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.
>>> 
>>>

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I agree. I believe Apple when they say they make a lot of the decisions
they do based on ensuring the best customer experience possible for the
greatest number of customers. Controlling the apps that make it on to
your iPhone definitely provides greater security, increased protection
against malware, fewer problems for most users and an easier time when
it comes to support.

I don't think this is Apple's only motivation for doing this though. I
think it also gives them more control over the revenue stream associated
with apps and content.

Note that I don't disagree with sieghard on the fact that malware is
more of an issue on Android than on iPhone; I just one classify it as a
huge issue. Just as people have to decide whether to jail break their
iPhone or not, they also have to choose between the relative merits of
an iPhone and an Android phone. There's no wrong choice here, and it's
good that we have these choices, especially as blind smart phone users.


On 10/01/13 06:49, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Hi, interesting observation. I believe that Apple's idea with the jailed
> iO'S apps is so the average person doesn't have to use common sense.
> This way, the complete tech novice can use the iPhone as easily as the
> total tech nerd. Since most of the public lacks common sense, this helps
> in doing tech support. Yes, I'm generalizing, but I'm also saying that
> from over 20 years of observation, working with the public, and knowing
> how people think in general.
> 
> -- 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner,
> you'd better have a good hand. - Woody Allen
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 1/10/2013 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>> I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
>> difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
>> a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
>> Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
>> than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
>> common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.
>>
>> On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>>> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
>>> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
>>> what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
>>> view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
>>> points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
>>> jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
>>> more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
>>> install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
>>> installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
>>> jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
>>> running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
>>> untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
>>> of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
>>> in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
>>> I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
>>> Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
>>> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
>>> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
>>> GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
>>> it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
>>> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
>>> to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
>>> theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
>>> Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
>>> number.
>>>
>>> I hope this other viewpoint helps.
>>>
>>> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
>>> you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
>>> opposite. .
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Raul A. Gallegos
>>> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
>

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, you might want to Google for that since you will get a lot better 
responses than here on list. However to give you a short answer, 
jailbreaking your phone is the ability to gain root access to the phone. 
In lamens terms this means it gives you the ability to do things which 
are not normally allowed by Apple. For example if I want to change the 
sounds the keyboard clicks make when I type, or how the phone app does 
certain things, then sometimes jailbreaking is the only solution. One 
good example is an app called xpander. This app allows you to put in any 
short code and it expands it out to whatever I want. Apple added this in 
iOS 5 and calls it keyboard abbreviation. However people with jailbroken 
phones could do this a long time before Apple added the feature. Other 
examples are listed in my other posts in this thread, or from the 
viphone archives just by looking up jailbreak in the subject line.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, 
you'd better have a good hand. - Woody Allen

Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 6:46 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

What is a Jail broken phone, and why call it Jail break since it's not going to 
prison! How do you do a Jail broken phone.

Kawal.

On 10 Jan 2013, at 12:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:


I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.

On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
number.

I hope this other viewpoint helps.

PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
opposite. .

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
Rodney Dangerfield
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Mohammed,

I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
code (a
huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
safer
user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
tech user it's not for me.

I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
Jailbreakers
as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
6 you
are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
find
a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your pho

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, interesting observation. I believe that Apple's idea with the jailed 
iO'S apps is so the average person doesn't have to use common sense. 
This way, the complete tech novice can use the iPhone as easily as the 
total tech nerd. Since most of the public lacks common sense, this helps 
in doing tech support. Yes, I'm generalizing, but I'm also saying that 
from over 20 years of observation, working with the public, and knowing 
how people think in general.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, 
you'd better have a good hand. - Woody Allen

Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 6:32 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.

On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
number.

I hope this other viewpoint helps.

PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
opposite. .

--
Raul A. Gallegos
I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
Rodney Dangerfield
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Mohammed,

I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
code (a
huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
safer
user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
tech user it's not for me.

I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
Jailbreakers
as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
6 you
are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
find
a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer
should it
crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Mohammed abbas Rashid
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Key Vibrate

Hi Sieghard

 Many thanks for your email.

I very much appreciate all information given by your goodself.

How is a phone jale broken?

Once again lo

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
What is a Jail broken phone, and why call it Jail break since it's not going to 
prison! How do you do a Jail broken phone.

Kawal.

On 10 Jan 2013, at 12:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

> I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
> difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
> a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
> Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
> than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
> common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.
> 
> On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
>> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
>> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
>> what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
>> view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
>> points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
>> jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
>> more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
>> install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
>> installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
>> jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
>> running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
>> untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
>> of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
>> in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
>> I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
>> Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
>> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
>> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
>> GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
>> it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
>> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
>> to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
>> theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
>> Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
>> number.
>> 
>> I hope this other viewpoint helps.
>> 
>> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
>> you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
>> opposite. .
>> 
>> -- 
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
>> Rodney Dangerfield
>> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
>> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
>> 
>> On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>>> Hi Mohammed,
>>> 
>>> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
>>> since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
>>> code (a
>>> huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
>>> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
>>> safer
>>> user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
>>> Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
>>> think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
>>> tech user it's not for me.
>>> 
>>> I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
>>> Jailbreakers
>>> as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
>>> 6 you
>>> are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
>>> find
>>> a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer
>>> should it
>>> crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
>>> having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
>>> untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Mohammed abbas Rashid
>>> 

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I too have a lot of respect for Sieghard, however, I do have a
difference of opinion when he says that apps containing harmful code is
a huge problem on Android. I'd agree it's more of an issue than it is on
Apple, but I wouldn't say it's huge. I wouldn't think it's any different
than Windows or a jail broken iPhone, where if you just practice some
common sense, you can avoid most of the problems caused by malware.

On 10/01/13 04:40, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because
> he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows
> what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the
> view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's
> points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the
> jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit
> more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you
> install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after
> installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then
> jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still
> running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the
> untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most
> of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me
> in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point
> I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the
> Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
> daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
> programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze
> GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if
> it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them.
> I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied
> to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can
> theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google
> Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone
> number.
> 
> I hope this other viewpoint helps.
> 
> PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and
> you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the
> opposite. .
> 
> -- 
> Raul A. Gallegos
> I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. -
> Rodney Dangerfield
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hi Mohammed,
>>
>> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
>> since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful
>> code (a
>> huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
>> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a
>> safer
>> user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
>> Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
>> think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
>> tech user it's not for me.
>>
>> I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced
>> Jailbreakers
>> as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS
>> 6 you
>> are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you
>> find
>> a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer
>> should it
>> crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
>> having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
>> untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Mohammed abbas Rashid
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:59 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Key Vibrate
>>
>> Hi Sieghard
>>
>> Many thanks for your email.
>>
>> I very much appreciate all information given by your goodself.
>>
>> How is a phone jale broken?
>>
>> Once again look forward to hearing.
>>
>> Many thanks and kind regards
>> Mohammed Rashid
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [m

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Kliphton A M
Yes, I love the google voice inter gratin.  I miss it badly!  I bought the 5 on 
launch day, and regret it.  I thought there would be more of a difference, but 
at this point, besides being a little taller, possibly a little faster 
depending on what you do, it's really nothing to jump up and down about.  My 
wife is still on ios 5.1.1 with her 4s, and I'm seriously thinking about 
trading with her so I can have my googlevoice integration back.  I really miss 
my SBS settings, loving to tap the status bar to switch wifi on and off, among 
a lot of other things.  JMO
On Jan 10, 2013, at 5:14 AM, "Raul A. Gallegos"  wrote:

> Hi, I think that what you and I agree regardless of our personal views on 
> jailbreaking, is that jailbreaking works for some, but is not for everyone. 
> If I felt that my iPhone met my needs then I would not jailbreak either for 
> the same reasons you stated. In fact, I don't even recommend jailbreaking to 
> my customers I train on using the iPhone unless they ask about it first. And 
> even then, I will explain what jailbreaking is, but give both sides of the 
> coin in how cool it can be, but also how frustrating it can be and the 
> problems it can cause. I will admit, and you can point the "told you so 
> finger at me", that my iPhone has locked up more than the other iPhones in my 
> family circle, and when it does, some people around here just raise their 
> eyebrows and sigh at me. I've considered just upgrading iOS to the latest and 
> using it non-jailbroken. This of course would mean that I would lose much of 
> my beloved tweaks, like the ability to swipe left or right across the screen 
> of any app to move the music forward and/backward, swipe from top to bottom 
> in any app to play/pause the music, triple-tap the left side of the status 
> bar to toggle air plane mode, and of course, my wonderful Star Trek sounds 
> and background. Believe it or not, I can live with that loss. However what 
> really stops me from moving forward with upgrading and using the iPhone 
> non-jailbroken is the integration of Google Voice. I truly feel that has been 
> the most I've gotten out of jailbreaking. I use my GV number as my primary 
> contact number for calls and texts and jailbreaking allows me to use GV 
> natively from my iPhone no matter which app I'm in. Yes it's true that the 
> Google Voice apps, and a few others out there like GV Connect and GV Mobile 
> Plus are excellent ones to use, but they still don't integrate fully into 
> iOS. This is a similar thing to how keyboards like Fleksy can't integrate 
> directly for those who wish it could. I totally understand the reason why 
> Apple jails their apps, but I don't have to agree with it. Yes, you can point 
> out that I myself have admitted to my phone locking up more, so why would I 
> choose this action knowing the phone will be less stable. To that I can only 
> say that the occasional lock up I have with my phone is less of an annoyance 
> than not having integrated Google Voice, and the other tweaks I've gotten 
> used to.
> 
> Oh, and if we debate in person and if you lose, just toss me your 
> non-jailbroken iPhone. .
> --
> Raul A. Gallegos
> Men who have pierced ears are better prepared for marriage. They've 
> experienced pain and bought jewelry. - Rita Rudner
> Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
> Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
> Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
> 
> On 1/10/2013 4:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> Hello Raul,
>> 
>> Let's see, if we do a Jailbreak debate let's try and meet up sometime so we
>> can do it in person and at least I can resort to just beating you up if I
>> loose *smile*
>> 
>> But joking aside, I completely agree with you which is why I said your phone
>> "can" become less stabil and jailbreak apps "can contain" poorly written
>> code. I completely understand that this is not necessarily the case and
>> always hear Rob from Today in iOS advise that one should always
>> remove/delete jailbreak apps one doesn't use in order to avoid running into
>> conflicts. I think, however, for some jailbreaking may be a temptation to
>> put so many apps on the phone that you lose track of which might be causing
>> a problem. You are probably correct in saying that if you are careful that
>> you can minimize the risk and maximize the benefits. Maybe I have to try it
>> one of these days, but then again, maybe I don't since my iPhone does
>> everything I want it do to and I totally don't mind syncing my music with
>> iTunes. I have a 64 Gb phone and about 25 Gb of music ripped at 256 Kbps so
>> for me that part is easy, I c

Re: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I think that what you and I agree regardless of our personal views 
on jailbreaking, is that jailbreaking works for some, but is not for 
everyone. If I felt that my iPhone met my needs then I would not 
jailbreak either for the same reasons you stated. In fact, I don't even 
recommend jailbreaking to my customers I train on using the iPhone 
unless they ask about it first. And even then, I will explain what 
jailbreaking is, but give both sides of the coin in how cool it can be, 
but also how frustrating it can be and the problems it can cause. I will 
admit, and you can point the "told you so finger at me", that my iPhone 
has locked up more than the other iPhones in my family circle, and when 
it does, some people around here just raise their eyebrows and sigh at 
me. I've considered just upgrading iOS to the latest and using it 
non-jailbroken. This of course would mean that I would lose much of my 
beloved tweaks, like the ability to swipe left or right across the 
screen of any app to move the music forward and/backward, swipe from top 
to bottom in any app to play/pause the music, triple-tap the left side 
of the status bar to toggle air plane mode, and of course, my wonderful 
Star Trek sounds and background. Believe it or not, I can live with that 
loss. However what really stops me from moving forward with upgrading 
and using the iPhone non-jailbroken is the integration of Google Voice. 
I truly feel that has been the most I've gotten out of jailbreaking. I 
use my GV number as my primary contact number for calls and texts and 
jailbreaking allows me to use GV natively from my iPhone no matter which 
app I'm in. Yes it's true that the Google Voice apps, and a few others 
out there like GV Connect and GV Mobile Plus are excellent ones to use, 
but they still don't integrate fully into iOS. This is a similar thing 
to how keyboards like Fleksy can't integrate directly for those who wish 
it could. I totally understand the reason why Apple jails their apps, 
but I don't have to agree with it. Yes, you can point out that I myself 
have admitted to my phone locking up more, so why would I choose this 
action knowing the phone will be less stable. To that I can only say 
that the occasional lock up I have with my phone is less of an annoyance 
than not having integrated Google Voice, and the other tweaks I've 
gotten used to.


Oh, and if we debate in person and if you lose, just toss me your 
non-jailbroken iPhone. .

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On 1/10/2013 4:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hello Raul,

Let's see, if we do a Jailbreak debate let's try and meet up sometime so we
can do it in person and at least I can resort to just beating you up if I
loose *smile*

But joking aside, I completely agree with you which is why I said your phone
"can" become less stabil and jailbreak apps "can contain" poorly written
code. I completely understand that this is not necessarily the case and
always hear Rob from Today in iOS advise that one should always
remove/delete jailbreak apps one doesn't use in order to avoid running into
conflicts. I think, however, for some jailbreaking may be a temptation to
put so many apps on the phone that you lose track of which might be causing
a problem. You are probably correct in saying that if you are careful that
you can minimize the risk and maximize the benefits. Maybe I have to try it
one of these days, but then again, maybe I don't since my iPhone does
everything I want it do to and I totally don't mind syncing my music with
iTunes. I have a 64 Gb phone and about 25 Gb of music ripped at 256 Kbps so
for me that part is easy, I check the "Sync All Music" and it's a one-time
process.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because he
is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows what he
is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the view on
jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's points are very
much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the jailbreak app store),
are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit more careful about what you
get, but as long as you know what you install, and as long as you remove
something that causes lock ups after installing it so you don't forget what
did it in the first place, then jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To
give

RE: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Raul,

Let's see, if we do a Jailbreak debate let's try and meet up sometime so we
can do it in person and at least I can resort to just beating you up if I
loose *smile*

But joking aside, I completely agree with you which is why I said your phone
"can" become less stabil and jailbreak apps "can contain" poorly written
code. I completely understand that this is not necessarily the case and
always hear Rob from Today in iOS advise that one should always
remove/delete jailbreak apps one doesn't use in order to avoid running into
conflicts. I think, however, for some jailbreaking may be a temptation to
put so many apps on the phone that you lose track of which might be causing
a problem. You are probably correct in saying that if you are careful that
you can minimize the risk and maximize the benefits. Maybe I have to try it
one of these days, but then again, maybe I don't since my iPhone does
everything I want it do to and I totally don't mind syncing my music with
iTunes. I have a 64 Gb phone and about 25 Gb of music ripped at 256 Kbps so
for me that part is easy, I check the "Sync All Music" and it's a one-time
process.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because he
is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows what he
is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the view on
jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's points are very
much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the jailbreak app store),
are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit more careful about what you
get, but as long as you know what you install, and as long as you remove
something that causes lock ups after installing it so you don't forget what
did it in the first place, then jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To
give an example, I'm still running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not
just because the untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also
because most of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already
available to me in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At
this point I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are
the Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and
daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps
programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze GPS,
together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if it was a
usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them. 
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied to a
single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can theme my
phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google Voice fully
integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone number.

I hope this other viewpoint helps.

PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and you
can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the opposite.
.

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On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Hi Mohammed,
>
> I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil 
> and since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain 
> harmful code (a huge problem with Android apps where there is very 
> little control from
> Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a 
> safer user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion 
> about how Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a 
> Jailbreaker and think that is so then that's good for you, but while I 
> am an experienced tech user it's not for me.
>
> I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced 
> Jailbreakers as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you 
> upgraded to iOS 6 you are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet 
> which means even if you find a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in 
> your phone to the computer should it crash or should you want to 
> reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without having it plugged in, it 
> would not work. I am sure there will be an untethered Jailbreak coming up,
but it's not here yet.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Jailbreaking good or bad - Was Re: Key Vibrate

2013-01-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi there all. I always respect what Sieghard has to say on list because 
he is obviously very knowledgeable and has demonstrated that he knows 
what he is talking about. That being said, here is the other side of the 
view on jailbreaking. I'm a happy jailbreaker and while Sieghard's 
points are very much valid, not all apps from the Cydia store, (the 
jailbreak app store), are harmful. It's true that you have to be a bit 
more careful about what you get, but as long as you know what you 
install, and as long as you remove something that causes lock ups after 
installing it so you don't forget what did it in the first place, then 
jailbreaking is a beautiful experience. To give an example, I'm still 
running iOS 5.1.1 on my iPhone 4S, but it's not just because the 
untethered jailbreak isn't available for iOS 6, it's also because most 
of the functionality that you get with iOS 6 is already available to me 
in iOS 5.1.1 due to the various jailbreak apps or tweaks. At this point 
I would say that the main feature of iOS 6 that I don't get are the 
Apple Maps, but from what I've discovered so far from my wife's and 
daughter's iPhones using iOS 6, I'm not missing much. For maps and gps 
programs I use a combination of either Navigon or Google Maps or Waze 
GPS, together with Ariadne GPS. I can copy mp3 files to my iPhone as if 
it was a usb stick and still use the normal music app to listen to them. 
I have a much more reliable do not disturb feature which can be applied 
to a single contact or a group of contacts, and most importantly, I can 
theme my phone to use custom sounds for everything and I can use Google 
Voice fully integrated as if my Google Voice number was my real iPhone 
number.


I hope this other viewpoint helps.

PS, Sieghard, perhaps one day you and I can play devil's advocate and 
you can convince me why jailbreaking would be good, and I can do the 
opposite. .


--
Raul A. Gallegos
I haven't spoken to my wife in years. I didn't want to interrupt her. - 
Rodney Dangerfield

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On 1/10/2013 12:07 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Mohammed,

I don't Jailbreak my phone because it can make the phone less stabil and
since apps which are not verified by Apple can also contain harmful code (a
huge problem with Android apps where there is very little control from
Google) I prefer to forego some of the benefits of Jailbreaking for a safer
user experience. I hope I am not triggering a huge discussion about how
Jailbreaking is perfectly save and all that, if you are a Jailbreaker and
think that is so then that's good for you, but while I am an experienced
tech user it's not for me.

I am sure you will receive plenty of replies from experienced Jailbreakers
as to how to do it. However, keep in mind that if you upgraded to iOS 6 you
are not able to do an untethered Jailbreak yet which means even if you find
a Jailbreak, you would have to plug in your phone to the computer should it
crash or should you want to reboot it since if y ou rebooted it without
having it plugged in, it would not work. I am sure there will be an
untethered Jailbreak coming up, but it's not here yet.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mohammed abbas Rashid
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2013 8:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Key Vibrate

Hi Sieghard

Many thanks for your email.

I very much appreciate all information given by your goodself.

How is a phone jale broken?

Once again look forward to hearing.

Many thanks and kind regards
Mohammed Rashid


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 09 January 2013 16:47
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Key Vibrate

Hi Mohammed,

Although there are currently no applications in the App Store which will
make your iPhone vibrate as you type on the keyboard, there are a few
options available for iPhone users who have done a successful jailbreak on
their phones. After a jailbreak, you'll have access to the Cydia application
store on your device -- a store of non-Apple approved applications that many
users find very useful for enhancing their phone's functionality. In the
Cydia store, you will find multiple applications for making your iPhone
vibrate as you type, a feature known as haptic feedback.

Where did you hear about this app? Was it Applevis? When I did the google
search for "Key Vibrate App" the Applevis link to that app came up as well,
but it states also that it is a Jailbreak app.

Lastly, just as a general comment, keep in mind that if you hear about a
particular app you may not find it in your country's App Store as not all
apps are available in al

Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Kayla King
Ahhh, but it's not that way with mine.  I can see user, applications, etc... 
I am not sure why...  I'm running IOS5 on a 4S...
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking


Right, so, what happens if you go into Owner's iPHone? BTW, you can
rename that. It just shows that your computer log on user name is owner
when the iPhone was set up. In any case, if you press enter on Owner's
iPhone, you will see the camera roll. You see this regardless of
jailbreaking or not. Now, if you get the program PWNTunes, you will also
see other things like misc, and my music,.

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On 11/26/2012 12:05 PM, Kayla King wrote:

I wonder, Because with mine, it comes up as "owner's iPhone."
- Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking



Hi, you will have to get the jailbreak app called pwn tunes for that
to work. Right now whether it's jailbroken or not the best you can do
is look at your camera roll.

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On 11/26/2012 9:59 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will
it then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?




To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which
I have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among
the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it
has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and
origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good
time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know
of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one
consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people
below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and
not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore,
uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Right, so, what happens if you go into Owner's iPHone? BTW, you can 
rename that. It just shows that your computer log on user name is owner 
when the iPhone was set up. In any case, if you press enter on Owner's 
iPhone, you will see the camera roll. You see this regardless of 
jailbreaking or not. Now, if you get the program PWNTunes, you will also 
see other things like misc, and my music,.


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On 11/26/2012 12:05 PM, Kayla King wrote:

I wonder, Because with mine, it comes up as "owner's iPhone."
- Original Message - From: "Raul A. Gallegos"

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking



Hi, you will have to get the jailbreak app called pwn tunes for that
to work. Right now whether it's jailbroken or not the best you can do
is look at your camera roll.

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On 11/26/2012 9:59 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will
it then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?




To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which
I have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among
the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it
has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and
origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good
time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know
of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one
consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people
below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and
not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore,
uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I
believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say, God
bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens


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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Kayla King

I wonder, Because with mine, it comes up as "owner's iPhone."
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking


Hi, you will have to get the jailbreak app called pwn tunes for that to 
work. Right now whether it's jailbroken or not the best you can do is look 
at your camera roll.


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On 11/26/2012 9:59 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will
it then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?




To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which
I have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among
the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it
has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and
origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good
time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know
of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one
consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people
below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and
not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore,
uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I
believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say, God
bless it!'"
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Kayla King

Yes.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Gallik" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2012 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking


   Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will it 
then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?





To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I 
have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the 
rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has 
come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, 
if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a 
kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in 
the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to 
open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if 
they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of 
creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has 
never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I believe that it has 
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, you will have to get the jailbreak app called pwn tunes for that to 
work. Right now whether it's jailbroken or not the best you can do is 
look at your camera roll.


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On 11/26/2012 9:59 AM, Bill Gallik wrote:

Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will
it then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?




To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which
I have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among
the rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it
has come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and
origin, if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good
time; a kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know
of, in the long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one
consent to open their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people
below them as if they really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and
not another race of creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore,
uncle, though it has never put a scrap of gold or silver in my pocket, I
believe that it has done me good, and will do me good; and I say, God
bless it!'"
- "A Christmas Carol," 1843, Charles Dickens


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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-26 Thread Bill Gallik
   Just a question of curiosity; if  you "jail break" your iPhone will it 
then appear as a "normal drive" on  your PC?





To You & Yours: A Very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year !!!
Holland & Bill
- "`There are many things from which I might have derived good, by which I 
have not profited, I dare say,' returned the nephew. `Christmas among the 
rest. But I am sure I have always thought of Christmas time, when it has 
come round -- apart from the veneration due to its sacred name and origin, 
if anything belonging to it can be apart from that -- as a good time; a 
kind, forgiving, charitable, pleasant time: the only time I know of, in the 
long calendar of the year, when men and women seem by one consent to open 
their shut-up hearts freely, and to think of people below them as if they 
really were fellow-passengers to the grave, and not another race of 
creatures bound on other journeys. And therefore, uncle, though it has never 
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good, and will do me good; and I say, God bless it!'"
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

No, currently there isn't really that much for 6x; even the old 3GS
doesn't have Cydia at the moment as far as I know.
If you're on Twitter then you can follow @musclenerd for updates, or
keep an eye on http://www.jailbrea.kr for the latest.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 11/25/12, Shane Clark  wrote:
> Mike, is there a jb for 6.01 yet, and is there a site I can go to to keep me
> posted on when things like that are out, or do you post stuff like when new
> jbs are 3out on your site?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 25, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Mike M  wrote:
>
>> An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you
>> restart the phone.
>>You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do
>> a tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single
>> time you restart it.
>>So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.
>>
>> Mike
>> On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet.
>>> But I heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand
>>> correctly, you downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A
>>> untethered jailbreak is when you do it without having your Or iPad hooked
>>> up to your PC right? If this is so, then how do you jailbreak with
>>> Absent?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Shane Clark
Mike, is there a jb for 6.01 yet, and is there a site I can go to to keep me 
posted on when things like that are out, or do you post stuff like when new jbs 
are 3out on your site?

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 25, 2012, at 2:49 PM, Mike M  wrote:

> An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you 
> restart the phone.
>You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do a 
> tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single time 
> you restart it. 
>So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.
> 
> Mike 
> On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But 
>> I heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand 
>> correctly, you downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered 
>> jailbreak is when you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC 
>> right? If this is so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?
>> 
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Kayla King

Does anyone know where I can access the 5.1?  I'm still running 5...
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From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: Jailbreaking


Not as far as I know there aren't any. I'm still on iOS 5.1.1 and happy
because I already have most of what you get with iOS6.

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On 11/25/2012 3:30 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
So are there untethered jailbreaks around for IOs 6? I haven't heard 
anything about it, but that doesn't mean that such a jailbreak actually 
doesn't exist.

/Krister

25 nov 2012 kl. 20:49 skrev Mike M :

An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you 
restart the phone.
You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do a 
tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single 
time you restart it.

So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.

Mike
On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:


Hi,
I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. 
But I heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand 
correctly, you downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A 
untethered jailbreak is when you do it without having your Or iPad 
hooked up to your PC right? If this is so, then how do you jailbreak 
with Absent?


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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Not as far as I know there aren't any. I'm still on iOS 5.1.1 and happy 
because I already have most of what you get with iOS6.


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On 11/25/2012 3:30 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

So are there untethered jailbreaks around for IOs 6? I haven't heard anything 
about it, but that doesn't mean that such a jailbreak actually doesn't exist.
/Krister

25 nov 2012 kl. 20:49 skrev Mike M :


An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you 
restart the phone.
You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do 
a tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single time 
you restart it.
So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.

Mike
On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:


Hi,
I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But I 
heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand correctly, you 
downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered jailbreak is when 
you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC right? If this is 
so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Krister Ekstrom
So are there untethered jailbreaks around for IOs 6? I haven't heard anything 
about it, but that doesn't mean that such a jailbreak actually doesn't exist.
/Krister

25 nov 2012 kl. 20:49 skrev Mike M :

> An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you 
> restart the phone.
>   You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do 
> a tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single 
> time you restart it. 
>   So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.
> 
> Mike 
> On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But 
>> I heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand 
>> correctly, you downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered 
>> jailbreak is when you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC 
>> right? If this is so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Mike M
An untethered jailbreak means that you don't have to plug it in when you 
restart the phone.
You still have to plug it in to do the initial jailbreak but if you do 
a tethered jailbreak you have to connect it to your computer every single time 
you restart it. 
So untetheredis definitely the way you want to go.

Mike 
On Nov 25, 2012, at 12:57 AM, Shane Clark  wrote:

> Hi,
> I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But 
> I heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand correctly, 
> you downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered jailbreak 
> is when you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC right? If 
> this is so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, if you are using anything less than iOS 6.0 you can jailbreak in 
most cases.


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On 11/25/2012 1:57 AM, Shane Clark wrote:

Hi,
I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But I 
heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand correctly, you 
downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered jailbreak is when 
you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC right? If this is 
so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?

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Jailbreaking

2012-11-25 Thread Shane Clark
Hi,
I've thought about jailbreaking, but haven't really made up my mind yet. But I 
heard a Podcasts on using a program called Absent. If Understand correctly, you 
downloaded to your PC and then do the jailbreak? A untethered jailbreak is when 
you do it without having your Or iPad hooked up to your PC right? If this is 
so, then how do you jailbreak with Absent?

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Jailbreaking Apple Tv

2012-10-11 Thread Shane Clark
Hello everyone,
How would I jailbreak my Apple TV3rd gen. And, is an unteathered jb one where 
its done without hooking it up to the computer, and a teathered one is where 
you do?

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jailbreaking second jen apple tv

2012-08-08 Thread paras shah
 Is the jailbreaking experience of the second jen apple tv accessible.
Does voice over read all menus after jailbroken

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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-10 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Hi, it's called plugification.

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On 7/10/2012 1:03 PM, Negoslav Sabev wrote:

What is the tweak name that pauses your music with the hedphones plugged
out?
Negoslav

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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:34 PM
*Subject:* Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak
messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread
where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone.
The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list
archive Web address is found at the end of each message posted here.
However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like to
jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features
to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For
example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice
number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a
separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can
use a schedule profile program so that my phone will automatically
go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on or
off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the
theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek
computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the music
automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and
automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can
skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And
lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove
music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can
simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.


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Hello all,
I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
Thanks in advance.
Liz

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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-10 Thread Negoslav Sabev
What is the tweak name that pauses your music with the hedphones plugged out?

Negoslav
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  From: Raul A. Gallegos 
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  Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:34 PM
  Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking


  Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak messages in 
the last couple of weeks because there was a thread where people posted a lot 
of why they like to jailbreak their phone. The messages can be found from the 
list archives, and the list archive Web address is found at the end of each 
message posted here. However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like 
to jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features to the 
iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For example, with a 
jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice number a lot more closely 
with the iPhone. I do not have to use a separate app to make phone calls. 
Another advantage is that I can use a schedule profile program so that my phone 
will automatically go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn 
on or off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the theme of 
my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek computer or a windows 
XP computer. I can make the music automatically stop playing when I disconnect 
the headphones and automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. 
I can skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And lastly, 
one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove music from the 
iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can simply copy the music over as 
if my iPhone was a USB stick.




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  On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Elizabeth Campbell"  
wrote:


Hello all,
I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
Thanks in advance.
Liz

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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-10 Thread igor_kaplan
The actual limitation of the ringtone length is in Itunes, not in iPhone. 
In jailbroken iPhone it is possible to copy a ringtone directly to 
/Library/Ringtones directory and iPhone will happily use any ringtone 
length. You still need to make sure, it is in m4r format (which is the same 
as m4a with last letter renamed).
  Just don't involve Itunes into this process and everything will be fine! 
:)
  Hope, it helps.
 
   Igor.

On Monday, July 9, 2012 11:05:27 PM UTC-4, rdlawRobert wrote:

> Back in the windows mobile world I had a way of getting into the registry 
> and changing the tone lenght to 200 secondes. I wondered if in the 
> jailbreak 
> world if there was something  similar. 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Raul A. Gallegos"  
> To:  
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 02:25 PM 
> Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking 
>
>
> > Hi, what do you mean? Ring tones can be up to 30 seconds I believe. So, 
> > I'm not sure of what you are asking. 
> > 
> > Thanks. 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > On 7/9/2012 6:18 AM, RDLAW wrote: 
> >> raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the ability to 
> >> determine how long a ringtone can be? 
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> *From:* Raul A. Gallegos <mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com> 
> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM 
> >> *Subject:* Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking 
> >> 
> >> Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak 
> >> messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread 
> >> where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their 
> phone. 
> >> The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list 
> >> archive Web address is found at the end of each message posted 
> here. 
> >> However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like to 
> >> jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features 
> >> to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For 
> >> example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice 
> >> number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a 
> >> separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can 
> >> use a schedule profile program so that my phone will automatically 
> >> go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on or 
> >> off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the 
> >> theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek 
> >> computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the music 
> >> automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and 
> >> automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can 
> >> skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And 
> >> lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove 
> >> music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can 
> >> simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -- 
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> >> Sent from my brain 
> >> http://www.raulgallegos.com 
> >> Twitter: @rau47 
> >> 
> >> On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Elizabeth Campbell" 
> >> mailto:batescampb...@gmail.com>> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Hello all, 
> >>> I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking. 
> >>> What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone?? 
> >>> Thanks in advance. 
> >>> Liz 
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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread RDLAW
Back in the windows mobile world I had a way of getting into the registry 
and changing the tone lenght to 200 secondes. I wondered if in the jailbreak 
world if there was something  similar.
- Original Message - 
From: "Raul A. Gallegos" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 02:25 PM
Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking


Hi, what do you mean? Ring tones can be up to 30 seconds I believe. So, 
I'm not sure of what you are asking.


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On 7/9/2012 6:18 AM, RDLAW wrote:

raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the ability to
determine how long a ringtone can be?

- Original Message -
*From:* Raul A. Gallegos <mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak
messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread
where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone.
The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list
archive Web address is found at the end of each message posted here.
However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like to
jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features
to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For
example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice
number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a
separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can
use a schedule profile program so that my phone will automatically
go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on or
off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the
theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek
computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the music
automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and
automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can
skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And
lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove
music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can
simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.


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I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
Thanks in advance.
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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Hi, I believe this has been discussed in late June and early July this year.

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On 7/9/2012 6:19 AM, RDLAW wrote:

How far back in the archives willl I have to go to get information on
jailbreaking a 3gs?

- Original Message -
*From:* Raul A. Gallegos <mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak
messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread
where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone.
The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list
archive Web address is found at the end of each message posted here.
However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like to
jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features
to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For
example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice
number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a
separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can
use a schedule profile program so that my phone will automatically
go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on or
off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the
theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek
computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the music
automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and
automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can
skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And
lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove
music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can
simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.


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Hello all,
I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
Thanks in advance.
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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, what do you mean? Ring tones can be up to 30 seconds I believe. So, 
I'm not sure of what you are asking.


Thanks.

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On 7/9/2012 6:18 AM, RDLAW wrote:

raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the ability to
determine how long a ringtone can be?

- Original Message -
*From:* Raul A. Gallegos <mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com>
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
*Subject:* Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak
messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread
where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone.
The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list
archive Web address is found at the end of each message posted here.
However to answer your question, one of the reasons I like to
jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features
to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For
example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice
number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a
separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can
use a schedule profile program so that my phone will automatically
go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on or
off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the
theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek
computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the music
automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and
automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can
skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And
lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and remove
music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can
simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.


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What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
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RE: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi,
Sara's the closest thing we get in the 3GS to Siri so far.

Jon

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mike Maslo
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

Sorry for posting here but was wondering if there was Siri for 3 Gs Sent
from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Blinkin  wrote:



I am almost positive that iTunes only allows 40 second clips to be
ringtones

Mike 

On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:18 AM, RDLAW wrote:


raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the
ability to determine how long a ringtone can be?

- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos
<mailto:r...@raulgallegos.com>  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of
jailbreaking

Hello. You might want to read over some of the
recent jailbreak messages in the last couple of weeks because there was a
thread where people posted a lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone.
The messages can be found from the list archives, and the list archive Web
address is found at the end of each message posted here. However to answer
your question, one of the reasons I like to jailbreak is because I get
access to a lot more tweaks and features to the iPhone that Apple normally
doesn't allow you to do. For example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can
integrate my Google voice number a lot more closely with the iPhone. I do
not have to use a separate app to make phone calls. Another advantage is
that I can use a schedule profile program so that my phone will
automatically go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make it turn on
or off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change the theme of
my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek computer or a
windows XP computer. I can make the music automatically stop playing when I
disconnect the headphones and automatically resume playing when I connect
the headphones. I can skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music
player. And lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add and
remove music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can simply
copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.



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Hello all,

I've seen a lot of references on this list
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    What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking
an iPhone??

Thanks in advance.

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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Mike Maslo
Sorry for posting here but was wondering if there was Siri for 3
Gs 
Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:44 PM, Blinkin  wrote:

> I am almost positive that iTunes only allows 40 second clips to be ringtones
> 
> Mike 
> On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:18 AM, RDLAW wrote:
> 
>> raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the ability to determine 
>> how long a ringtone can be?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Raul A. Gallegos
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
>> Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking
>> 
>> Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak messages in 
>> the last couple of weeks because there was a thread where people posted a 
>> lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone. The messages can be found 
>> from the list archives, and the list archive Web address is found at the end 
>> of each message posted here. However to answer your question, one of the 
>> reasons I like to jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and 
>> features to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For 
>> example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice number a 
>> lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a separate app to 
>> make phone calls.Another advantage is that I can use a schedule profile 
>> program so that my phone will automatically go into silent mode at a 
>> specified time. I can make it turn on or off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at 
>> specified times. I can change the theme of my phone to make it look like or 
>> sound like a Star Trek computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the 
>> music automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and 
>> automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can skip 
>> unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And lastly, one of 
>> the most recent important ones, I can add and remove music from the iPhone 
>> without ever having to use iTunes. I can simply copy the music over as if my 
>> iPhone was a USB stick.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Raul A. Gallegos
>> Sent from my brain
>> http://www.raulgallegos.com
>> Twitter: @rau47
>> 
>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Elizabeth Campbell"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
>>> What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> Liz
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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Blinkin
I am almost positive that iTunes only allows 40 second clips to be ringtones

Mike 
On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:18 AM, RDLAW wrote:

> raul is there a jail break feature that allows you the ability to determine 
> how long a ringtone can be?
> - Original Message -
> From: Raul A. Gallegos
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
> Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking
> 
> Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak messages in 
> the last couple of weeks because there was a thread where people posted a lot 
> of why they like to jailbreak their phone. The messages can be found from the 
> list archives, and the list archive Web address is found at the end of each 
> message posted here. However to answer your question, one of the reasons I 
> like to jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and features 
> to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For example, with 
> a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice number a lot more closely 
> with the iPhone. I do not have to use a separate app to make phone calls. 
> Another advantage is that I can use a schedule profile program so that my 
> phone will automatically go into silent mode at a specified time. I can make  
>   it turn on or off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at specified times. I can change 
> the theme of my phone to make it look like or sound like a Star Trek computer 
> or a windows XP computer. I can make the music automatically stop playing 
> when I disconnect the headphones and automatically resume playing when I 
> connect the headphones. I can skip unlimited amount of times in the Pandora 
> music player. And lastly, one of the most recent important ones, I can add 
> and remove music from the iPhone without ever having to use iTunes. I can 
> simply copy the music over as if my iPhone was a USB stick.
> 
> 
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> Twitter: @rau47
> 
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Elizabeth Campbell"  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
>> What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Liz
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Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking

2012-07-09 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

For 3GS use green pois0n, located at greenpois0n.com. Its painfully
easy so there isn't really a need for a step by step.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 7/9/12, RDLAW  wrote:
> How far back in the archives willl I have to go to get information on
> jailbreaking a 3gs?
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Raul A. Gallegos
>   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 11:34 AM
>   Subject: Re: advantages and disadvantages of jailbreaking
>
>
>   Hello. You might want to read over some of the recent jailbreak messages
> in the last couple of weeks because there was a thread where people posted a
> lot of why they like to jailbreak their phone. The messages can be found
> from the list archives, and the list archive Web address is found at the end
> of each message posted here. However to answer your question, one of the
> reasons I like to jailbreak is because I get access to a lot more tweaks and
> features to the iPhone that Apple normally doesn't allow you to do. For
> example, with a jailbroken iPhone I can integrate my Google voice number a
> lot more closely with the iPhone. I do not have to use a separate app to
> make phone calls. Another advantage is that I can use a schedule profile
> program so that my phone will automatically go into silent mode at a
> specified time. I can make it turn on or off Wi-Fi and or Bluetooth at
> specified times. I can change the theme of my phone to make it look like or
> sound like a Star Trek computer or a windows XP computer. I can make the
> music automatically stop playing when I disconnect the headphones and
> automatically resume playing when I connect the headphones. I can skip
> unlimited amount of times in the Pandora music player. And lastly, one of
> the most recent important ones, I can add and remove music from the iPhone
> without ever having to use iTunes. I can simply copy the music over as if my
> iPhone was a USB stick.
>
>
>
>
>   --
>   Raul A. Gallegos
>   Sent from my brain
>   http://www.raulgallegos.com
>   Twitter: @rau47
>
>   On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:40 PM, "Elizabeth Campbell"
>  wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
> I've seen a lot of references on this list to jail breaking.
> What are the pros and cons of jailbreaking an iPhone??
> Thanks in advance.
> Liz
>
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