RE: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
As did I. If not, that's a very expensive iPod touch! Now, if you get it from Craigslist it might be different; though I've known folks who have stayed hidden under the radar but that it's only temporary. In other words, eventually the carrier be it aTT, Verizon, etc, find out and put the phone on a data plan. Amy Billman Check out my company for your screen protector and phone accessory needs! SpeedDots: the makers of the tactile screen protector http://www.SpeedDots.com Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/SpeedDots Like us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SpeedDots -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Mann Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions] I'm confused. I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy a data plan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too
To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
So how did you get an iPhone without a data plan then? I'm sure there are ways to do it. I'm just curious. On 07/06/12 12:04, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
I'm confused. I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy a data plan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
Contracts yes, I didn't get this under contract. So, no data plan required. -- Raul A. Gallegos Vegetarian: Native American definition for lousy hunter. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: I'm confused. I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy a data plan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
That's correct. I know with VZW as soon as you put an iPhone on the account the data charges are automatically applied. Sent from my Verizon iPhone! On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, but I was under the impression that the carrier can detect if you've popped the SIM card into a smart phone. I was told this by an ATT rep and by someone who got charged for a Blackberry plan when he popped his SIM card into a borrowed Blackberry. On 07/06/12 17:02, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Contracts yes, I didn't get this under contract. So, no data plan required. -- Raul A. Gallegos Vegetarian: Native American definition for lousy hunter. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: I'm confused. I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy a data plan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much
Re: To data plan or not to data plan [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
I've heard that too. However the data has remained off and we have been fine so far for these last several months. I think they detect it if your iPhone makes data calls. -- Raul A. Gallegos No wonder nobody comes here--it's too crowded. - Yogi Berra Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 6:31 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Interesting, but I was under the impression that the carrier can detect if you've popped the SIM card into a smart phone. I was told this by an ATT rep and by someone who got charged for a Blackberry plan when he popped his SIM card into a borrowed Blackberry. On 07/06/12 17:02, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: Contracts yes, I didn't get this under contract. So, no data plan required. -- Raul A. Gallegos Vegetarian: Native American definition for lousy hunter. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 5:42 PM, Ryan Mann wrote: I'm confused. I thought that for iPhone contracts you were required to buy a data plan. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: This makes sense. In fact, this is what I did for my daughter. She has an iPhone, but we don't pay for data plans. So, when she uses apps which require data, she just uses it on wi-fi. All other times she can use it to text and make calls all she wants. -- Raul A. Gallegos CALENDAR FACT: All the seasons are named after coils of metal. Except Winter and Summer. And Autumn. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/7/2012 12:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I've been researching smart phones for my son, and I had a thought. You said I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email,, but I was thinking, with wifi, someone could still use there smart phone for web and email and wouldn't need a data plan. In fact, if I could, this is exactly what I'd like to get my son, i.e. a smart phone with voice and texting but no data plan. He'd just have to wait until he had access to a wifi to use his smart phone on the network. Does this make sense or am I forgetting something critical here? On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone
new to the group and some questions
Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hi Rebecca. I got my iPhone 4, that's the 4, from a phone shop. They set it all up for me because I got it as part of a contract upgrade. When I got it home I simply connected it to the computer and set it all up via iTunes. I didn't know if it came with iOS 5, so didn't chance triple clicking the home button to see if VoiceOver would come up. I have an iPhone 4 8 GB and I recommend this storage for your needs. I use wifi at home as well but also use 3G when wifi is not turned on or I'm out and about. The iPhone will switch accordingly. I just use the iPhone 4 as it is. Hope any or all of this helps. Christopher Hallsworth On 03/06/2012 08:31, Rebecca Ilniski wrote: Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new to the group and some questions
I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: new to the group and some questions
I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hi Arnold. i went to the link and the link no longer works. I'd love the .brf file and will have to look for this when I come home from church.Chris, thank you for answering my questions also as my early upgrade date is on Tuesday this week. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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As Arnold said the book is a terrific resource as is this group. I would have been lost without them. I went to the apple store to pick up my phone after placing my order online. I did it this way because the first time I went to the store they didn't have the model of the phone I wanted (the 64g model). The sales tech at the store was very nice and helpful but only to a point. He wasn't very familiar with VO and I had to kind of coach him through turning it on. He did transfer all my contacts from my old phone and do the rest of the standard set up, so that was helpful. The store was very noisy and busy, as are all the apple stores I've been to, so it was difficult to play with VO very much. I did most of my experimenting with VO on my own at home with the help of this list and the aforementioned book. And let me add that I love my Iphone! I hope this is helpful. Kimber On 6/3/12, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Kimberly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
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Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
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Hi, It might not be $100 but, its pretty close. After taxes, your talking about $90 for the cheapest plans you can get with an iPhone. This is on all carriers btw. But, the iPhone is now going to pre paid services like Cricket wireless. And rumors are it will be coming to Boost Mobile in the fall. So, for those who don't mind sacrificing speed and network reliability for cheaper plans, this might be a good way to go. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
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In all my years of owning a computer, I have never had a link be changed as this one was changed. I would love to know how that happened, one letter being changed. I copied it directly from the address bar in IE, whatever. The real link is http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/IPHONE-IOS5.html Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 7:13 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hi Arnold. i went to the link and the link no longer works. I'd love the .brf file and will have to look for this when I come home from church. Chris, thank you for answering my questions also as my early upgrade date is on Tuesday this week. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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HI. I'm in australia so some of the info may be a little different. I got my iphone from my cell provider but successfully activated a phone for a friend who got hers delivered. Storage depends on how many aps you want, how much music or books you want on your phone etc. A good website to have a look at is www.aplevis.com I have my phone set so that when i'm at home it uses the wifi but when I'm out, it switches over to 3 g. hth God Bless! Maria from australia Newbie mac user. bubbygirl1...@gmail.com will get you fb as well as email iMessage. skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl On 03/06/2012, at 5:31 PM, Rebecca Ilniski wrote: Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hi Rebecca, and nice to see you on here. I've labeled my answers so they will be obvious as to which questions I'm answering. 1. If you get your phone from the phone store, they should have no problems in configuring it initially. I use ATT and just got the phone from their store. The guy transferred what I needed, which wasn't much, because I don't keep my contacts in the sim card, but he did get things activated and he enabled Voice Over for me when I saw that pressing Home 3 times didn't activate it. However if you order it from the web and have it mailed to you, it's not too difficult getting it set up. You will use iTunes to do it and it's pretty easy. In most cases when you get it, you will want to power it on, connect it to AC power and let it charge for a bit. You can then press the home button to unlock it and press Home 3 times in row to see if Voice Over comes on. If it does, great, if it doesn't, not to worry since you can do that from iTunes when you set it up. 2. I do have a Bluetooth keyboard paired with my iPhone but since I use Siri a lot, I don't use the keyboard as much as I used to with my 3GS. In cases where I need to do a lot of typing and/or I don't want people hearing what I dictate, I'll use the keyboard. 3. There are a lot of resources to help you get going. I'm not sure about podcasts, but I know they are out there and perhaps someone on list will give that info. However you can also get the book which Anna and Dean wrote about the iPhone, and it's available from National Braille Press. 4. I got the 64 GB model because I didn't want to worry about space. It currently has about 40 gb free. So, had I gotten the 16 gb model, it would have already been over-filled. I made the mistake of getting the 8gb model with the 3GS because I didn't think I'd fill it up and have fun with apps, games, and podcasts and audio books, but learned quickly that 8gb wasn't enough for me. The smallest you can get now is 16gb, but my personal recommendation would be 32 or 64 gb. Take care and hope this helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 3:31 AM, Rebecca Ilniski wrote: Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http
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I got my phone from the Verizon Store. I didn't want to set it up for the first time alone. For me I had to have the Bluetooth keyboard because if I didn't I knew I wouldn't be able to use the phone effectively and it would frustrate me too much. I can do the gestures and use the screen but I still don't type on screen. I can do the phone numbers but for regular typing I just can't get that part down and there is nothing wrong with having a keyboard. I have a regular keyboard and not the fold up small kind. I have the one by Logitech but right now I can't tell you which one. I like it because it has an actual on/off switch where the Apple Keyboard only has the push in button so you never knew if it was off. They probably have a newer one out by now but when I got my iPhone 4 that was the one they had. I now have the 4S. As for how many gigs, that is totally up to you. I did get the 64 gig only because I have my own music on the phone rather than using Pandora or any radio apps. It's just what I prefer. I don't plan on upgrading my phone with the next upgrade since I made the choice to go with the 64 gig as I couldn't afford that kind of upgrade every two years. I know many people are very happy with the 16 gig but I think if I hadn't gotten what I did I would have gotten at least the 32 gig. So far I haven't used hardly any of my data plan. You don't use much when you do email, Twitter or Facebook. I've also had to use the At Bat App on data a couple of times and you don't use much with that but if you were to play say Pandora it is my understanding that that takes a lot of data useage. Sorry this is long but hope it helps. Carla -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rebecca Ilniski Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 12:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I 82 am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
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Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received
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I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered
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As the old cliche says, when something sounds too good to be true, it usually is. Are you saying this free data service would apply to a smart phone? If so, for how much data? When paying for it, one no longer can get an unlimited data plan. I will call the number you gave and check into it, but it sounds too good to be true to me. This especially is so if it would apply to the IPad, giving one a free data stream. The cliche definitely would apply for an IPad. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
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I ordered the phone itself on Sprint's website and set it up with Itunes on the mac. The accessible setup from the phone by tripple clicking home at power on does work, but if you have no Apple ID set up, could involve a fair amount of typing on the screen. Itunes might be easier for initial setup unless you already knew how to type on the phone fairly well. The other thing you will have to get by going into the about page in settings is the serial number, ESN, or whatever they call it now. Apple has its own serial number, but you want the one that's all numbers, 8 to 11 digits or so, and get that to Verizon on their site or however you swap phones with themm. After that, eventually, the phone should receive a signal to become activated, but definitely would if you shut down and restarted. As for wifi versus cellular data, the phone should default to wifi when available and switch to cellular when needed, as most people would want. As for podcasts to get you started, there were a bunch on Blindcooltech.com, not of the latest IOS, but they will get you started with the gestures, a description of typing, etc. - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 2:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Hi Arnold. I just bought the book. Thank you for sending that link along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
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Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away
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Hi, another way to get around this is to get an iPhone 4 or 4S used and buy a SIM card for an iPad. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource
Re: new to the group and some questions
The book is read by the Tom voice, and it sounds excellent. I purchased the book a few weeks ago, and I am thinking of getting my iPhone in July, and I can't wait! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
Suppose your a blind person, and you want an accessible phone you can use to make calls, store some PIM information and send and receive text messages, but you don't want or need a data plan. Unfortunately, there aren't many low end cell phones that will meet your needs, so you'll have to go with a smart phone to get the accessibility you want. In this case, why should you have to pay for a data plan you don't want and won't use just to get an accessible cell phone? This is why a blind person might want a smart phone without a data plan. On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you
Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing something here, which is quite possible. On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new
Monthly cost of owning an iPhone [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
Prices have definitely changed a bit since I got my first smart phone a few years ago, but in looking at http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/12/technology/att_verizon_sprint_iphone/index.htm I see you can still get an iPhone from ATT for as little as $55 a month. If you add texting, you can get an iPhone from ATT or Verizon for as little as $75 a month. Of course, this all depends on how much voice and data you'll want with your plan. On 03/06/12 06:29, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, It might not be $100 but, its pretty close. After taxes, your talking about $90 for the cheapest plans you can get with an iPhone. This is on all carriers btw. But, the iPhone is now going to pre paid services like Cricket wireless. And rumors are it will be coming to Boost Mobile in the fall. So, for those who don't mind sacrificing speed and network reliability for cheaper plans, this might be a good way to go. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat screen? 4. How many gigs would you recommend? I don't plan to watch a lot of movies, download videos and mainly want to use my phone for calls, facebooking, and twitters? Maybe here or there a video but I don't plan to go overboard. I have wifi here at home and plan to use that. When I'm away is it easy to use your data plan if there aren't any wifi connections available especially if im on a bus or something? Thanks for answering all of my questions. I'm sure I will have more as I go along. -- Rebecca and Zeb email: rilni...@gmail.com facebook: facebook.com/rebeccai5 Zeb's facebook: facebook.com/zeb.ilniski -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed
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lol, you hit the nail on the head. What is an iPhone but an iPod touch with a cellular radio. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing something here, which is quite possible. On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read
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I wish they would add the ability to send and receive data over the cellular network, as can an IPad that has cellular connectivity. It still would not be able to make phone calls as a phone, but one could add Skype, or OneSuite.com onto it, and make phone calls. These calls probably would not be the quality of an IPhone, but one would mainly use it for email and data anyway. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:25 PM Subject: Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions] You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing something here, which is quite possible. On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were
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If you want such a phone, as of maybe a month ago, Verizon had anunlimited talk and text prepaid plan for $50 a month. A coworker who has this plan uses the LG Reveere, and is quite happy with it. According to a newsletter I get from Clark Howard, phone companies want to encourage people to use the simple phones if they don't really need smart phones. I don't know what phones they use, but he said that Metro PCS is offering an unlimited talk and text plan for $35 a month, and that Boost Mobile offers one for $45 a month. Finally, VirginMobile offers an android phone, with a keyboard and Android 2.3, for, I think, $50 a month that offers unlimited data and text, and 1200 total minutes of talk. That is tempting, I wish they offered the IPhone. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:18 PM Subject: Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions] Suppose your a blind person, and you want an accessible phone you can use to make calls, store some PIM information and send and receive text messages, but you don't want or need a data plan. Unfortunately, there aren't many low end cell phones that will meet your needs, so you'll have to go with a smart phone to get the accessibility you want. In this case, why should you have to pay for a data plan you don't want and won't use just to get an accessible cell phone? This is why a blind person might want a smart phone without a data plan. On 03/06/12 13:48, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Well, it appears the old cliche applies one more time. I just called the number given in the following message, and this is what I was told. First, the following does not apply to the IPhone at all, one must buy a data plan for the IPhone. Apparently, for the android phones, and blackberries, one can apply for this exemption, but it does not mean one can get free data. Under normal circumstances, one has to buy a minimum data plan, even if they are not going to use it, just to get one of these devices. This exemption will allow the device to be used for phone calls, maybe texting (I am not sure about texting), but not for data, meaning the web and email. I can't imagine why one would want a smart phone if they weren't going to use it for the web and email, being that now some companies are offering unlimited text and phone calls for cheap prices, using a regular phone. Apparently, their data networks are being overwhelmed by smart phones, and they want people to buy and use the simple phones for texting and phone calls. Oh well, I hoped. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:33 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Hello Arnold, If the price of the data plan is the only thing keeping you from getting the iPhone you may want to consider asking for a waiver. AT ant T allows Blind users in the US to fill out a application that allows for certain services. One is free information. Another is exemption from the data plan. I don't know if other service providers have a option like this for blind users. I am using the free information service. I did not use it often as I preferred Bing 411. However, Bing 411 is ending at the end of june so I'm glad I have the AT and T information option in place and ready to use. It works very similar to the Bing 411 service, even the same voice, but an operator takes over if there is a need. The application process is a bit tedious and takes time to complete and requires a doctor's portion to be completed. I think the phone number to call AT And T for a application is: 1 866 241 6568 eric Caron On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:30 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http
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It is a device much smaller than an IPad, that will fit into my pocket, but would not cause me to pay for the phone capability.If I had access to the cellular network for data, I could make the occasional phone call with it via skype, and access the web and email, too. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions] lol, you hit the nail on the head. What is an iPhone but an iPod touch with a cellular radio. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing something here, which is quite possible. On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited again about getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes
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I suspect that the actual phone capability, once you have cellular network access, is pretty trivial, so you'd end up with a device that pretty much looks like the iPhone without the phone app and costs about the same. Like I said, I don't think there would be much of a market for Apple to market such a device. Of course, I'm not a developer and I'm not in marketing. On 03/06/12 17:45, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It is a device much smaller than an IPad, that will fit into my pocket, but would not cause me to pay for the phone capability.If I had access to the cellular network for data, I could make the occasional phone call with it via skype, and access the web and email, too. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:53 PM Subject: Re: Data plans [was Re: new to the group and some questions] lol, you hit the nail on the head. What is an iPhone but an iPod touch with a cellular radio. :) Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:25 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: You say Apple would never give the iPod Touch the ability to access cellular networks because then it would impact iPhone sales too much, but I'm thinking, if you add cellular network access to an iPod Touch then how is it different than an iPhone? I'm thinking they may never do this just because there's no need to do it. Of course, maybe I'm missing something here, which is quite possible. On 03/06/12 10:31, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I got an IPod touch a couple years ago, when version 4 came out, after Mike Arigo did those podcasts on BlindCoolTech. I came away from the experience quite confident that I could learn to use it, but took it back within my return period because I couldn't get online with it, except with wifi, which meant, for me, at home, being that I do not have access to a wifi network at work, and otherwise would have to go to some public hot spot to get online. My Victor Reader Stream would play all the audio file types it would play, and then some, and I didn't care about the video files. I definitely would have kept it if I could have accessed the cellular network with it, as the IPad can now. I am almost sure Apple will never give the IPod Touch this capability, it would diminish IPhone and IPad sales too much. I have checked into how much data costs for the IPad, and it seems to be about $50 for 5 gig. At that rate, I may as well get the IPhone, and be able to have the phone, and the gps capability without having to use an external gps receiver. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:29 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions Sounds like you might benefit by getting an iPod touch -- Raul A. Gallegos Stupidity got me into this mess - I don't see why it can't get me out. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/3/2012 7:25 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being that I have no family, I would have to get it as an individual.When including the data plan, the cheapest I have found is a little over $80 a month from Sprint, and would be the 450 minute plan. Right now, I use a prepaid cell phone, and my wired phone. My prepaid cell phone is 20 cents a minute, which is a bad deal if one talks much, but for what I do with it, it costs about $10 a month. I qualify for lifeline, so my wired phone is $20 a month. I would not be getting the IPhone so much for the phone, I do not spend a lot of time on a telephone any more, but for the texting, the apps, email and the web, and streaming music and radio. Naturally, I would discontinue both my current phones if I get the IPhone, which would make its real cost to me between 50 to 60 dollars a month. We'll see what I eventually do. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: new to the group and some questions I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would
Re: Monthly cost of owning an iPhone [was Re: new to the group and some questions]
my iPhone has unlimited text/data on it for about $50 a month. I don't have a voice plan on there yet, but plan on one soon. I will be dropping t-mobile this month because they refuse to do something about the billing details being hidden inside flash graphics. -eric On Jun 3, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: My tax accountant said that my monthly bills tripled since I got an iPhone. Andy -Original Message- From: Ricardo Walker Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Monthly cost of owning an iPhone [was Re: new to the group and some questions] Right, I was including texting, which on ATT and Verizon, does not come as a part of your data plan. So, once you've payed your $75, and add about $10 worth of taxes, your in the ball park of $90 as I said. Because after all, if you don't want to text, and you don't want data, your probably not getting an iPhone to begin with. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: Prices have definitely changed a bit since I got my first smart phone a few years ago, but in looking at http://money.cnn.com/2011/10/12/technology/att_verizon_sprint_iphone/index.htm I see you can still get an iPhone from ATT for as little as $55 a month. If you add texting, you can get an iPhone from ATT or Verizon for as little as $75 a month. Of course, this all depends on how much voice and data you'll want with your plan. On 03/06/12 06:29, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, It might not be $100 but, its pretty close. After taxes, your talking about $90 for the cheapest plans you can get with an iPhone. This is on all carriers btw. But, the iPhone is now going to pre paid services like Cricket wireless. And rumors are it will be coming to Boost Mobile in the fall. So, for those who don't mind sacrificing speed and network reliability for cheaper plans, this might be a good way to go. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:44 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think an iPhone costs $100 a month, and it definitely doesn't cost $100 a month more than other cell phones. I'm on a family plan, so I can't toss numbers off the top of my head, but I'd suggest checking different plan options with your carrier. On 03/06/12 05:30, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am even newer than you, in that my subscription was approved only hours ago. Also, I do not have an IPhone yet. The idea of getting one greatly appeals to me, but if I do not, it will be for the same reason that I have not gotten one so far, I am too cheap to want to pay that hundred dollars a month after month, after month after month to the phone carrier. However, I know I would love my IPhone and would probably not mind that charge too much, considering the benefits to me. One thing that has me excited againabout getting one is the book, published by National Braille Press. Getting Started with the iPhone and iOs5 for Blind Users, by Anna Dresner with Dean Martineau. I have purchased this book, and am reading through it. I do recommend this book for new users. According to it, one can set up their IPhone independently, so long as they have ITunes on their computer, with One caveat. There are some things one has to enter onto their phone itself, so one will have to type on it very early in the game, as it were. As long as one feels confident to do this typing, it can be set up independently. The link to the aforementioned book is http://www.nap.org/ic/nap/IPHONE-IOS5.html It is $22, and can be had in hardcopy braille, as a brf file, or as a daisy audio file, read by a pretty good synthesizer, I do not know which one. Arnold Schmidt - Original Message - From: Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 3:31 AM Subject: new to the group and some questions Hi all. I'm new to the group and have some questions. I'm going to be upgrading on 5/5/12. I have some questions and will post them here. 1. I have decided to get the iphone 4s and will be ordering that on Tuesday. First question did you get your i phone online or at the apple store? I can go to verizon and get it but wonder if they will be more helpful at apple and can they help with things like porting your number over from the old phone to the new? Did you order yours online or go to the store? if you ordered it directly from your cell provider can you set it up independently or did you have to go to the store to get help? 2. Do you use a bluetooth keyboard with yours or just the i phone? 3. What podcasts are out there for the iphone 4s? Is there a good resource for learning the gestures and using the flat
