RE: VNC thru VPN
Thanks for the info John. But can you tell me how to do this exactly? Many Thanks, Romel Wall, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want the VPN user to automatically be seen in the LAN network you can include the DNS/WINS in the dial up profile. We do this within our network and the VPN logon appears straight away instead of waiting for them to open and application that points to your Company IP address. Just a thought but it works for us. We also use Checkpoint as our VPN software. John -Original Message- From: Romel Ornedo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 20 November 2004 07:24 To: Angelo Sarto; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: VNC thru VPN We are using Check Point VPN-1. I just run the test a couple of hours ago if I could remote control the remote PC when they are connected to the VPN. Here are the results... After the authenctication thru a VPN client I was able to connect the remote machine to the VPN. I tried to VNC the remote machine from the office but no luck. I tried to ping the IP (the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) of the remote machine connection but it says host unreachable. I was thinking it shouldnt be, coz once login they can check their mail from outlook fetching the mails in the exchange server in my office lan. so i did open outlook from the remote machine to check if can login to the exhange server, and it was. then i tried pinging the remote machine again (same ip - the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) from one pc in my office lan. VOILA! its pinging then i was thinking then that its more than possible that VNC should work. and it worked! i can now do VNC'ing when they are connected to the VPN! couple of things.. after logging in to the VPN client they have to initiate a connection first to the office lan like opening outlook first or accessing shared resources in the office lan. that way, their pc will be hooked up virtually present and identified inside the office lan and from that point I can take it from there to VNC their machine. In summary the VPN is using the local ip of the remote machine was using as its identity in our lan and not assigning a special ip address to the remote machine. Even if both ends are on the different subnet. (my office 10.54.X.X and remote machine 192.168.1.X). It seems to me that our VPN acts like a bridge to make communications pass at both ends. Many thanks. Angelo Sarto wrote: The question I ment to ask was is each remote PC assigned a different IP. e.g. - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.201 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.202 some vpns do this - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.200 --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:05:13 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: do you mean VPN is assingning a different IP when communicating to the remote PC's? or its just the local internal ip is being used by the remote pc during the communication in VPN. Angelo Sarto wrote: So you would like to be able to control the remote computers when they are active in the vpn? this should be possible, but the remote computer will need to be running vncserver. You would have to have them install vnc server on each of the remote machines. In this case (if it is running as a service) you wouldn't even need a reverse connect, simply connect to them by there VPN IP. e.g. xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy ---|VPN|--(192.168.11.254)-- when someone logs in with a vpn server they are given an inside IP, i.e. an ip on the lan. If the remote computer is running vncserver then you should be able to connect to it's inside IP. The pitfalls you will need to avoid are: VPN Server and VPN Client Security settings-I believe in most VPN defaults all traffic is allowed in both directions. Client Firewall - e.g. windows XP service Pack2, software firewalls, some AV (hardware firewalls are usually being bypassed already via VPN) VPN's that do PAT - do your VPN clients share an IP? If you can give them each there own that would work a lot better. otherwise you would have to do some fancy tricks on the VPN. I'm not much of an expert on vpn, but I think this list will cover a lot of them. --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:07:19 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources
Re: VNC thru VPN
do you mean VPN is assingning a different IP when communicating to the remote PC's? or its just the local internal ip is being used by the remote pc during the communication in VPN. Angelo Sarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:So you would like to be able to control the remote computers when they are active in the vpn? this should be possible, but the remote computer will need to be running vncserver. You would have to have them install vnc server on each of the remote machines. In this case (if it is running as a service) you wouldn't even need a reverse connect, simply connect to them by there VPN IP. e.g. xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy ---|VPN|--(192.168.11.254)-- when someone logs in with a vpn server they are given an inside IP, i.e. an ip on the lan. If the remote computer is running vncserver then you should be able to connect to it's inside IP. The pitfalls you will need to avoid are: VPN Server and VPN Client Security settings-I believe in most VPN defaults all traffic is allowed in both directions. Client Firewall - e.g. windows XP service Pack2, software firewalls, some AV (hardware firewalls are usually being bypassed already via VPN) VPN's that do PAT - do your VPN clients share an IP? If you can give them each there own that would work a lot better. otherwise you would have to do some fancy tricks on the VPN. I'm not much of an expert on vpn, but I think this list will cover a lot of them. --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:07:19 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources connected to our VPN? It's like when the remote computer is connected and being virtually present inside the LAN then it should be possible also for me (INSIDE the LAN) to see his computer and use the shared files in his computer. The reason I ask this question is I want to remotely control the roaming computers when they are connected to the VPN. Since they already established a remote connection I should be able to initiate a connection also in reverse. But what will be his IP address or the VPN identification is using during the communication to address the request from-and-to the remote sites. Is this possible to use VNC under our VPN to remote computers even if they are under a broadband connection or inside a firewalled lan? What are the things to put in considerations? What could be possible problems I will encounter for unsuccessful connection? This is a shot in the dark, im not that techie specifically regarding VPN. Thanks in advanced. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
RE: VNC thru VPN
if i tell the guy on the remote computer to do ipconfigon his computer then it should work. is that right? is it the internal ip or the external ip of the remote computer im going to use? logically from the vpn point of view it should be the internal ip. i will give it a try.. i will let you know.. thanks.. John Aldrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Yes, it can be done. The hard part is identifying what IP address the remote PCs are getting on your LAN, when they connect via VPN. As long as they are on the LAN, even through VPN, assuming no XP firewall or something like that, you should be able to VNC into them. John -Original Message- From: Romel Ornedo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 5:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VNC thru VPN Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources connected to our VPN? It's like when the remote computer is connected and being virtually present inside the LAN then it should be possible also for me (INSIDE the LAN) to see his computer and use the shared files in his computer. The reason I ask this question is I want to remotely control the roaming computers when they are connected to the VPN. Since they already established a remote connection I should be able to initiate a connection also in reverse. But what will be his IP address or the VPN identification is using during the communication to address the request from-and-to the remote sites. Is this possible to use VNC under our VPN to remote computers even if they are under a broadband connection or inside a firewalled lan? What are the things to put in considerations? What could be possible problems I will encounter for unsuccessful connection? This is a shot in the dark, im not that techie specifically regarding VPN. Thanks in advanced. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: VNC thru VPN
We are using Check Point VPN-1. I just run the test a couple of hours ago if I could remote control the remote PC when they are connected to the VPN. Here are the results... After the authenctication thru a VPN client I was able to connect the remote machine to the VPN. I tried to VNC the remote machine from the office but no luck. I tried to ping the IP (the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) of the remote machine connection but it says host unreachable. I was thinking it shouldnt be, coz once login they can check their mail from outlook fetching the mails in the exchange server in my office lan. so i did open outlook from the remote machine to check if can login to the exhange server, and it was. then i tried pinging the remote machine again (same ip - the local assigned dhcp ip under broadband connection in a wireless lan) from one pc in my office lan. VOILA! its pinging then i was thinking then that its more than possible that VNC should work. and it worked! i can now do VNC'ing when they are connected to the VPN! couple of things.. after logging in to the VPN client they have to initiate a connection first to the office lan like opening outlook first or accessing shared resources in the office lan. that way, their pc will be hooked up virtually present and identified inside the office lan and from that point I can take it from there to VNC their machine. In summary the VPN is using the local ip of the remote machine was using as its identity in our lan and not assigning a special ip address to the remote machine. Even if both ends are on the different subnet. (my office 10.54.X.X and remote machine 192.168.1.X). It seems to me that our VPN acts like a bridge to make communications pass at both ends. Many thanks. Angelo Sarto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The question I ment to ask was is each remote PC assigned a different IP. e.g. - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.201 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.202 some vpns do this - PC1-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC2-Remote - 192.168.0.200 - PC3-Remote - 192.168.0.200 --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:05:13 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: do you mean VPN is assingning a different IP when communicating to the remote PC's? or its just the local internal ip is being used by the remote pc during the communication in VPN. Angelo Sarto wrote: So you would like to be able to control the remote computers when they are active in the vpn? this should be possible, but the remote computer will need to be running vncserver. You would have to have them install vnc server on each of the remote machines. In this case (if it is running as a service) you wouldn't even need a reverse connect, simply connect to them by there VPN IP. e.g. xxx.xxx.xxx.yyy ---|VPN|--(192.168.11.254)-- when someone logs in with a vpn server they are given an inside IP, i.e. an ip on the lan. If the remote computer is running vncserver then you should be able to connect to it's inside IP. The pitfalls you will need to avoid are: VPN Server and VPN Client Security settings-I believe in most VPN defaults all traffic is allowed in both directions. Client Firewall - e.g. windows XP service Pack2, software firewalls, some AV (hardware firewalls are usually being bypassed already via VPN) VPN's that do PAT - do your VPN clients share an IP? If you can give them each there own that would work a lot better. otherwise you would have to do some fancy tricks on the VPN. I'm not much of an expert on vpn, but I think this list will cover a lot of them. --Angelo On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:07:19 + (GMT), Romel Ornedo wrote: Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources connected to our VPN? It's like when the remote computer is connected and being virtually present inside the LAN then it should be possible also for me (INSIDE the LAN) to see his computer and use the shared files in his computer. The reason I ask this question is I want to remotely control the roaming computers when they are connected to the VPN. Since they already established a remote connection I should be able to initiate a connection also in reverse. But what will be his IP address or the VPN identification is using during the communication to address the request from-and-to the remote sites
VNC thru VPN
Need some clarifications regarding VPN. Scenario: Assuming I am the one of the administrator of the local area network in our office. We have VPN setup in our office to make users connect to the internal network remotely when they are out of the office. With the VPN connection they can all access network resources in my office LAN remotely (shared files, printers, all resources which they are permitted using their access/permission rights, etc). My Question: When they are connected to the VPN, assuming I'm the Administrator of the LAN, is it possible to use the REMOTE COMPUTER resources connected to our VPN? It's like when the remote computer is connected and being virtually present inside the LAN then it should be possible also for me (INSIDE the LAN) to see his computer and use the shared files in his computer. The reason I ask this question is I want to remotely control the roaming computers when they are connected to the VPN. Since they already established a remote connection I should be able to initiate a connection also in reverse. But what will be his IP address or the VPN identification is using during the communication to address the request from-and-to the remote sites. Is this possible to use VNC under our VPN to remote computers even if they are under a broadband connection or inside a firewalled lan? What are the things to put in considerations? What could be possible problems I will encounter for unsuccessful connection? This is a shot in the dark, im not that techie specifically regarding VPN. Thanks in advanced. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
No Port-forwarding config Enterprise Ed?
Can anyone please elaborate this feature of VNC Enterprise Edition One-Port HTTP VNC allows VNC Server to serve VNC Viewer for Java and VNC sessions through a single TCP port, simplifying NAT and firewall configuration. I would like to know if this feature will eliminate the Firewall Setting or Port Forwarding configuration to establish connection between firewalled computers or computers using broadband connections. I would like to know also if there is something similar apps like KaboodleProxy(works under Linux only) for Windows platform. I would like to find a solution to establish connection between firewalled and for broadband users without configuration of port forwarding. Thanks in advanced. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
automatic mailing of dhcp wan ip address
im looking for a freeware/app that will automatically email the dhcp wan/external ip address of the remote computer where i installed vnc. this is something useful so you do not have to tell your remote client to go and check the external ip address of his pc. we used vnc usually to help others by connecting to their pc remotely, im tired of telling them howto do ipconfig and go a site for external ip check. i hope vnc guys will considerably include this feature in their future release. please let me know if you could give a useful utility to make this happen.. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Pirelli Discus Age-R Milan Italy Fastweb
i'm having difficulty to connect to one of the remote pc in milan, italy. anyone knows any information about the Fastweb ISP in italy? they are using Pirelli Discus Age-R modem for broadband connection. i could not find any usefull links about the configuration of this type of broadband modem. i could not even ping the external ip given by http://checkip.dyndns.org for the local machine. this is really important that i need to have an access to their pc. please let me know if somehow there will be a local guy from italy in this mailing list. thanks in advance. - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
Re: Hidden icon
doens'nt seem to work when i did it? what version are u using? the icon was still there!!! did you really made it possible to hide the icon? how exactly? - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
What is your Router External (WAN) IP Address?
Hello everyone. Is there any small application or software to easily sniff and get the Broadband Modem external IP address? Everytime I am trying to connect to my client's pc I have to ask them to connect to Router's Admin Console to look and get the external IP Address. They are connected to an ISP wherein IP's are dynamically given. ipconfig displays the local NIC IP only as well as the tooltip in VNC icon in the system tray, if they are inside the NAT, the external IP address is not visible to them. I'm using port forwarding on the router side to mapped any incoming vnc connection to client's machine. A fast install and a quick run app is what i need to save me time.. Thanks ina advance guys! Romel - Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now ___ VNC-List mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To remove yourself from the list visit: http://www.realvnc.com/mailman/listinfo/vnc-list
