RE: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
>From Terry: > > The novel is called the "The Forever War". > > This is similar to the "Ender's Game" series without the happy ending > for the invading hive mind species: Thanks Terry, I've been meaning to read Orson Scott Card's Ender Game novels. I know there's a long series of Sagas pertaining to Ender Game universe. Card is a controversial figure, being a devout Mormon and all. His religious predilections have occasionally caused liberals and the gay and lesbian community to get all riled up when Card sed something that perhaps he shouldn't have. I gather Card has occasionally been verbally harassed at book signings. Despite Card's "faults" he still writes damned good thoughtful speculative fiction. It just goes to show that even though one may embrace what some might consider a restrictive religious philosophy, that does not necessarily prevent a good imagination from roaming the universe. Card's prose can be beautiful. And mind you - I'm a part-time dyslexic. ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Two papers re taxonomy,
From Peter Gluck's blog > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/taxonomy-mon-amour.html "I am deeply disappointed and sad that in this so-called 21st Century my grandchildren learn at school about Noah’s Ark and NOT about Evolution." Where do your grandchildren live? Harry
Re: [Vo]:Two papers re taxonomy,
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Colleagues, > > I have just published two papers re Taxonomy: > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/taxonomy-mon-amour.html > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html > The second one is the start of a series about Piantelli's ideas, > process and understanding of LENR- (of transition metals). His > work is the way to a mature and safe energy generation technology. > It's science not mass media show and fairy tales and myths. For those Vorts who have never read Peter's weblog, you should! There is a lot of knowledge and much humor. An example of the latter: "I memorized the name of some 1500 plant species- an excellent brain exercise. Similar names do not show always similar effects- it is not advisable to use strychnine if quinine is not available." LOL! T
RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
Steven, a logical error could be in assuming gravity and antigravity are perfectly symmetric in an inverse way, or that antigravity scales in a similar way as gravity "all the way down". This may or may not be true, since the big (HUGE) hurdle to overcome first is to document that antimatter is anti-gravitational. There are few experts in this field and no definitive experiments. There are various theories beyond the Standard Model which include attempts to resolve the hierarchy problem, include deviations at very short distances - but no real experiment goes below micron level for gravity AFAIK... hard to build scales that small. Obviously, no evidence speaks to antigravity at close range either. There are a few superficial reasons to suggest why gravity should never be able to be unified with the strong force below picometer, but nothing I have seen is very convincing. You will find vocal advocates of the extreme unification hypothesis, but they are even less convincing (Lazar etc). Bottom line - it is an open issue, and at picometers distances there is nothing indisputable so far - which prohibits a perfect balance of antigravity and electrostatic attraction (which has the effect of stabilizing the epo field into a dense, neutral, static lattice in another dimension). This picture does have a kind of elegance, if it turns out to be accurate. In fact, since antigravity appears repulsive for normal matter - then we might expect antimatter to come with its own repulsive version of the strong force: at least it would be repulsive wrt normal matter. -Original Message- From: OrionWorks - > considering the fact that electrostatic forces are probably a on an order of a gazillion times stronger than equivalent gravitational forces. How is there a "perfect balance?" Strikes me more like a big asymmetry. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 4:36 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: > The novel is called the "The Forever War". This is similar to the "Ender's Game" series without the happy ending for the invading hive mind species: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ender's_Game T
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
What I wanted to say it is that a hive can extend itself for hundreds of meters or kilometers simultaneously. Daniel Rocha wrote: But there is a crucial difference between dividing in organs and in > different individuals which is the ability to reach resources. A colony of > cells cannot do much other dividing tasks among themselves but it cannot > reach anything beyond its volume or it must count on passively on the > ecosystem's flow of matter and energy. But a hive can do it by itself > actively! > So can a mobile animal. Of course there are huge differences between most colonies and animals . . . but in some cases the distinction is blurred. A jellyfish is a colony of cells - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
Indeed, this is fertile ground for speculative fiction, especially science fiction. One author I particularly admire, an author who has thought a great deal about the ramifications Daniel and Jed point out, particularly how it might play out on the level of human "hive" consciousness, is Joe Haldeman. One of my favorite Haldeman novels is a story where he explores the ramifications of humanity confronting another alien species that strongly operates on the collective conscious level. The novel is called the "The Forever War". The reason behind the "forever war" we eventually learn is due to a massive misunderstanding that exists between the way individual humans communicate with other human individuals, and the collective consciousness of the alien race that doesn't know how to communicate on the level of individual human beings. Meanwhile, humans don't know how to communicate on the collective consciousness level either with the alien race. Fortunately, both parties eventually figure it out their misunderstandings, so you might say there is a happy ending - with some reservations. ;-) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forever_War A question I often find myself asking is where does the mechanism (the "soul" if you will) of self-awareness / self-consciousness reside? Does consciousness or awareness, particularly some level of SELF-awareness, an awareness of being able to make independent choices reside within a single cell paramecium? How about a jellyfish, or within the collective colony-body of the entire ant colony. We assume individual human beings possess the self-awareness trait, though I suspect certain cynics might beg to differ. What about on the level of The Borg? IMHO, certain eastern philosophies, such as Zen seem to do a good job of describing the nature of collective consciousness, or more precisely collective awareness. IMO, the best way to "sense" such awareness is to stop thinking for a while. Just be. One may soon discover that the "you" one has always identified with is nothing more than a brief figment of one's own fickle imagination. When that happens one has an opportunity to confront an even more interesting mystery: Why do "I" still exist. That's when the fun starts. ;-) Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
Jed sez: > I know little about cosmology, but is it not the case that: > > If dark matter exists the universe is more likely to end in a cosmic crunch, > relatively soon. > > If it does not exist the universe will end with heat death much farther into > the future. > > Just curious about this . . . > > Freeman Dyson wrote an essay saying that with a large enough reserve of > energy civilization might last "indefinitely" or perhaps he said > "infinitely" long in a heat-death scenario. I do not understand what he had > in mind. You have to run out eventually. Regarding some of these newly discovered forces like Dark Matter & Energy. I think it gets even messier than that. First there are the four "known" forces we all love, listed here in order of diminishing strength: 1. Strong (nuclear forces) 2. Weak (beta-decay) 3. Electromagnetic forces 4. Gravity But in recent times we must now tack on two additional hypothetical forces that are presumably based on recent measurements painstakingly correlated from powerful telescopes like the Hubble. These two new forces are listed below in order of diminishing strength. 5. Dark Matter: a hypothetical "force", that is attractive by nature in the gravitational sense. This "force" is supposed to help explain why galaxies spin faster than they should - presumably because there is a lot of unseen, undetectable "dark matter" milling about producing a lot more gravity than what is seen. - THE BIG CRUNCH. This is where some might wish to evoke a marvelous whimsical essay written by Carl Sagan. The essay is titled "The Dragon in my Garage". Jed, since you are an atheist at heart, I think you might enjoy the following essay. It is from another kindred soul. See: http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/Dragon.htm And finally... 6 Dark Energy. We are told there also exists another hypothetical "force" called Dark Energy, which seems to be repulsive in the gravitational sense. "Dark Energy" is supposed to explain why most galaxies are not only flying apart from each other, but that the measured acceleration is increasing. - The BIG CHILL The really weird thing about forces 5 & 6 is the fact that both forces seems to depend (or manifest) depending on the distance between the physical material itself. In other words corresponding matter within a galaxy is close enough in distance to each other such that the "dark matter" attractive force is in full effect. However, corresponding matter as measured between the vast distances between galaxies seems to be far enough apart that the repulsive "Dark Energy" force now comes into effect. Do you understand now, Jed? If so, maybe you can x'plain it to me cuz I still don't get it. I lost track of that dragon long ago. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
Daniel Rocha wrote: But there is a crucial difference between dividing in organs and in different individuals which is the ability to reach resources. A colony of cells cannot do much other dividing tasks among themselves but it cannot reach anything beyond its volume or it must count on passively on the ecosystem's flow of matter and energy. But a hive can do it by itself actively! So can a mobile animal. Of course there are huge differences between most colonies and animals . . . but in some cases the distinction is blurred. A jellyfish is a colony of cells - Jed
[Vo]:Two papers re taxonomy,
Dear Colleagues, I have just published two papers re Taxonomy: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/taxonomy-mon-amour.html http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/piantelli-taxonomy_15.html The second one is the start of a series about Piantelli's ideas, process and understanding of LENR- (of transition metals). His work is the way to a mature and safe energy generation technology. It's science not mass media show and fairy tales and myths. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
But there is a crucial difference between dividing in organs and in different individuals which is the ability to reach resources. A colony of cells cannot do much other dividing tasks among themselves but it cannot reach anything beyond its volume or it must count on passively on the ecosystem's flow of matter and energy. But a hive can do it by itself actively!
Re: [Vo]:Swarmanoids
That's nifty. The robots are working together like ants in a colony, with some specialization in roles. The capability of the whole swarm is greater than that of the individual. In my opinion, a colony of ants or bees should be though of as a single biological entity, like an animal body. An ant colony in the aggregate is more intelligent than individual ants. To put it the other way, an animal body may be though to as a giant colony of cells, plus helpful bacteria. The cells are usually in a symbiotic or cooperative relationship with one-another, but not always, as in the case of cancer. Along the same lines, an airplane is defined as a collection of spare parts flying in formation, from which parts fall off much more often than people realize, according to aircraft maintenance people. See the U.S. Navy acronym TFOA. - Jed
[Vo]:U.S. Researcher Preparing Prototype Cars Powered by Heavy-Metal Thorium
I found this link on the Cold Fusion Times website. What powers the laser that heats the thorium? Is this a parody? Harry http://wardsauto.com/ar/thorium_power_car_110811/"A U.S. company says it is getting closer to putting prototype electric cars on the road that will be powered by the heavy-metal thorium. Thorium is a naturally occurring, slightly radioactive rare-earth element discovered in 1828 by the Swedish chemist Jons Jakob Berzelius, who named it after Thor, the Norse god of thunder. It is found in small amounts in most rocks and soils, where it is about three times more abundant than uranium."
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
I know little about cosmology, but is it not the case that: If dark matter exists the universe is more likely to end in a cosmic crunch, relatively soon. If it does not exist the universe will end with heat death much farther into the future. Just curious about this . . . Freeman Dyson wrote an essay saying that with a large enough reserve of energy civilization might last "indefinitely" or perhaps he said "infinitely" long in a heat-death scenario. I do not understand what he had in mind. You have to run out eventually. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
The "dense neutral background" must have effectively no inertia, otherwise stable orbits would soon collapse. Harry From: Jones Beene >To: vortex-l@eskimo.com >Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 12:09:24 PM >Subject: RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum > >-Original Message- >From: Terry Blanton > >> "I suggest a third way, without introducing dark matter and without >modification of the law of gravity ... the key hypothesis is that matter and >antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, and there are two gravitational >charges: positive gravitational charge for matter and negative gravitational >charge for antimatter," - Hajdukovic > >Hmm... when you tie this in with Don Hotson and the Dirac epo field... with >that field being identified more or less AS the quantum vacuum itself - then >the conclusion is that positronium, either virtual or real, would >demonstrates this hypothesis in a surprising way. > >The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at >the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect >balance! ... and this is the way the epo is held together. Since epos define >zero point, then everything else builds on this dynamic structure (in the >background). > >Since the mass of either component is identical in an absolute way (either a >positive or negative) but neither is dominant, then the result is >essentially a dense neutral background in which we are immersed. The >background itself - although hidden - represents as much as 90% of all mass, >and it is in a dynamic tension. This is Dirac's so-called "sea of negative >energy" and in effect, Hajdukovic is simply redefining "dark matter" - and >not really supplying a valid alternative. It still ALL goes back to epos. > >The opportunity, if there is one, which presents itself with this insight >and more precise understanding of ZPE, is not obvious... except for this one >point: Perhaps the easiest way to look for a way to harness ZPE is to look >for anything which seems to "change" gravity ... which can include not only >an anti-gravity effect but also the opposite - a super-gravity effect >(putative weight gain). > >This may or may not be related to a kind of "supergravity" which is the >basis of superstring theory. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergravity > >However, there does seem to be one interesting cross-connection of all of >this to experimental results. This will be the subject of another posting, >as this one is getting a bit unwieldy. > >Hint: IRH (inverse Rydberg hydrogen) or fractional hydrogen (f/H) aka ... >the Mills' hydrino, "pycno" or spillover hydrogen - all of these terms are >descriptive of what is essentially "a heavier form of hydrogen." > >Instead of a 'reduced orbital' we could be looking at an "increased coupling >to gravitons" ... > >:) > >Jones > > > > > > > >
Re: [Vo]:University Thesis on the Mills' reaction
This guy is surely a daredevil to try a PhD thesis on with that theory in mind... O_o
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
Terry sez: >> The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at >> the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect >> balance! > > Hmmm, what are the odds of that? Following up: Also, considering the fact that electrostatic forces are probably a on an order of a gazillion times stronger than equivalent gravitational forces. How is there a "perfect balance?" Strikes me more like a big asymmetry. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:University Thesis on the Mills' reaction
This thesis from NC State has not been mentioned here before, as best I can tell. It is fairly recent, but there could be one useful finding. http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:GdJCGKinenoJ:repository.lib.ncsu.e du/ir/bitstream/1840.16/31/1/etd.pdf+strontium+Nowak&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srci d=ADGEESgsApRedPbWDI9twC5IjDNp0m_-Acls74qiX9gxX3r4LzprB1HHvSrAdm-duu80smcMp_ Me9-U5zr56WYepaMIq1ZssEzg1-VzmsAaIfGlWHaNmfKukNsftqhvjC_cPQcwWOk7B&sig=AHIEt bR3tTa8dbHckJbe5Ko5JszAKhTq1Q Dunno if Robin, Mike or any of the Mills-watchers here have seen anything which can explain this, from other forums - but it is curious that the study (which is hard to follow and poorly designed from the start) only shows a marked increase in thermal output with 1+% H2 and 99%He. I do not recall ever seeing Mills use such a low percentage of H2. It is hard to imagine why such a low percentage would work better than a higher percentage, or why the variables are so restrictive to begin with. Again - this begs for a better designed experiment and more useful data. Jones <>
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at > the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect > balance! Hmmm, what are the odds of that? T
RE: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
-Original Message- From: Terry Blanton > "I suggest a third way, without introducing dark matter and without modification of the law of gravity ... the key hypothesis is that matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, and there are two gravitational charges: positive gravitational charge for matter and negative gravitational charge for antimatter," - Hajdukovic Hmm... when you tie this in with Don Hotson and the Dirac epo field... with that field being identified more or less AS the quantum vacuum itself - then the conclusion is that positronium, either virtual or real, would demonstrates this hypothesis in a surprising way. The positron, being antimatter repels the electron gravitationally and at the same time attracts it electrostatically, so that there is a perfect balance! ... and this is the way the epo is held together. Since epos define zero point, then everything else builds on this dynamic structure (in the background). Since the mass of either component is identical in an absolute way (either a positive or negative) but neither is dominant, then the result is essentially a dense neutral background in which we are immersed. The background itself - although hidden - represents as much as 90% of all mass, and it is in a dynamic tension. This is Dirac's so-called "sea of negative energy" and in effect, Hajdukovic is simply redefining "dark matter" - and not really supplying a valid alternative. It still ALL goes back to epos. The opportunity, if there is one, which presents itself with this insight and more precise understanding of ZPE, is not obvious... except for this one point: Perhaps the easiest way to look for a way to harness ZPE is to look for anything which seems to "change" gravity ... which can include not only an anti-gravity effect but also the opposite - a super-gravity effect (putative weight gain). This may or may not be related to a kind of "supergravity" which is the basis of superstring theory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supergravity However, there does seem to be one interesting cross-connection of all of this to experimental results. This will be the subject of another posting, as this one is getting a bit unwieldy. Hint: IRH (inverse Rydberg hydrogen) or fractional hydrogen (f/H) aka ... the Mills' hydrino, "pycno" or spillover hydrogen - all of these terms are descriptive of what is essentially "a heavier form of hydrogen." Instead of a 'reduced orbital' we could be looking at an "increased coupling to gravitons" ... :) Jones
[Vo]:Swarmanoids
Skynet advances by leaps and bounds in this fascinating video of interacting robots: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20791-robot-mission-impossible-wins-video-prize.html which gave me goosebumps because I am presently reading a real life novel of just how it happens: http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jul/18/entertainment/la-et-book-20110718 already being made into a motion picture. T
Re: [Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
This is the same hypothesis that the Brightsen model of the nucleus makes and proposes that there is dark matter bound in some nuclei. Ron --On Monday, August 15, 2011 8:49 AM -0400 Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-dark-illusion-quantum-vacuum.html (PhysOrg.com) -- One of the biggest unsolved problems in astrophysics is that galaxies and galaxy clusters rotate faster than expected, given the amount of existing baryonic (normal) matter. The fast orbits require a larger central mass than the nearby stars, dust, and other baryonic objects can provide, leading scientists to propose that every galaxy resides in a halo of (as yet undetectable) dark matter made of non-baryonic particles. As one of many scientists who have become somewhat skeptical of dark matter, CERN physicist Dragan Slavkov Hajdukovic has proposed that the illusion of dark matter may be caused by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum. "The key message of my paper is that dark matter may not exist and that phenomena attributed to dark matter may be explained by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum," Hajdukovic told PhysOrg.com. "The future experiments and observations will reveal if my results are only (surprising) numerical coincidences or an embryo of a new scientific revolution." Like his previous study featured on PhysOrg http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-big-quick-conversion-antimatter.html about a cyclic universe successively dominated by matter and antimatter, Hajdukovic's paper on a dark matter alternative is also an attempt to understand cosmological phenomena without assuming the existence of unknown forms of matter and energy, or of unknown mechanisms for inflation and matter-antimatter asymmetry. In the case of the fast rotational curves of galaxies, he explains that there are currently two schools of understanding the phenomenon. "The first school invokes the existence of dark matter, while the second school invokes modification of our law of gravity," he said. "I suggest a third way, without introducing dark matter and without modification of the law of gravity." His ideas (like those in the previous paper) rest on the key hypothesis that matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, which is due to the fact that particles and antiparticles have gravitational charge of opposite sign. (Though like matter, antimatter is gravitationally attractive with itself.) Currently, it is not known whether matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, although a few experiments (most notably, the AEGIS experiment at CERN) are testing related concepts. "Concerning gravity, mainstream physics assumes that there is only one gravitational charge (identified with the inertial mass) while I have assumed that, as in the case of electromagnetic interactions, there are two gravitational charges: positive gravitational charge for matter and negative gravitational charge for antimatter," Hajdukovic explained.
[Vo]:Dark matter may be an illusion caused by the quantum vacuum
http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-08-dark-illusion-quantum-vacuum.html (PhysOrg.com) -- One of the biggest unsolved problems in astrophysics is that galaxies and galaxy clusters rotate faster than expected, given the amount of existing baryonic (normal) matter. The fast orbits require a larger central mass than the nearby stars, dust, and other baryonic objects can provide, leading scientists to propose that every galaxy resides in a halo of (as yet undetectable) dark matter made of non-baryonic particles. As one of many scientists who have become somewhat skeptical of dark matter, CERN physicist Dragan Slavkov Hajdukovic has proposed that the illusion of dark matter may be caused by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum. “The key message of my paper is that dark matter may not exist and that phenomena attributed to dark matter may be explained by the gravitational polarization of the quantum vacuum,” Hajdukovic told PhysOrg.com. “The future experiments and observations will reveal if my results are only (surprising) numerical coincidences or an embryo of a new scientific revolution.” Like his previous study featured on PhysOrg http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-07-big-quick-conversion-antimatter.html about a cyclic universe successively dominated by matter and antimatter, Hajdukovic’s paper on a dark matter alternative is also an attempt to understand cosmological phenomena without assuming the existence of unknown forms of matter and energy, or of unknown mechanisms for inflation and matter-antimatter asymmetry. In the case of the fast rotational curves of galaxies, he explains that there are currently two schools of understanding the phenomenon. “The first school invokes the existence of dark matter, while the second school invokes modification of our law of gravity,” he said. “I suggest a third way, without introducing dark matter and without modification of the law of gravity.” His ideas (like those in the previous paper) rest on the key hypothesis that matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, which is due to the fact that particles and antiparticles have gravitational charge of opposite sign. (Though like matter, antimatter is gravitationally attractive with itself.) Currently, it is not known whether matter and antimatter are gravitationally repulsive, although a few experiments (most notably, the AEGIS experiment at CERN) are testing related concepts. “Concerning gravity, mainstream physics assumes that there is only one gravitational charge (identified with the inertial mass) while I have assumed that, as in the case of electromagnetic interactions, there are two gravitational charges: positive gravitational charge for matter and negative gravitational charge for antimatter,” Hajdukovic explained.
[Vo]:Whose got cash?
Well, Google seems to have plenty of the stuff in their till. They just announced plans to purchase Motorola Mobility for $12.5 billion. http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/15/technology/google_motorola/index.htm?hpt=hp_ t2 How much for that 1 MW kitty in the window? Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:more speculations on break-up
On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Rich Murray wrote: > This year I have warned that any unknown nuclear physics has to be > immediately and fully explored . . . And for that, we are extremely grateful. T
