Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Finally!

Thanks for keeping tabs on this, Steve.

Just remember folks: any publicity is good publicity, or as a British writer
put it, it's always good to see your name in the papers, other than in the
obituaries. (And cold fusion has been in the obits countless times.)

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread OrionWorks
 Finally!

 Thanks for keeping tabs on this, Steve.

 Just remember folks: any publicity is good publicity, or as a British writer
 put it, it's always good to see your name in the papers, other than in the
 obituaries. (And cold fusion has been in the obits countless times.)

 - Jed

Steve, or Jed

Any speculation as to why 60 Minutes has decided, now, to do an
article on this subject? Was there a specific tipping point, or have
they been quietly watching this field for some time now. Cumulative
effect?

I would love to know whom they have interviewed. Guess we shall soon know.

My sense is that it will probably be a positive installment. 60 M
often seems to side with the underdog.

Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is the LENR-CANR news section announcement. Note that I included 
the link to the CBS website announcement.




CBS 60 Minutes reports on cold fusion

April 2009

The CBS newsmagazine 60 minutes will report on cold fusion on April 
19, 2009. See: 
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtmlhttp://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/07/08/60minutes/main13502.shtml


COLD FUSION IS HOT AGAIN - Presented in 1989 as a revolutionary new 
source of energy, cold fusion was quickly dismissed as junk science. 
But today, the buzz among scientists is that these experiments 
produce a real physical effect that could lead to monumental 
breakthroughs in energy production. Scott Pelley reports. Denise 
Schrier Cetta is the producer.


A detailed description of the broadcast is here: 
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/60MinutesTurnsUptheHeat.shtmlhttp://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2009/60MinutesTurnsUptheHeat.shtml


CBS asked Prof. Robert Duncan to do an independent evaluation of the 
literature and to visit researchers and experiments. Duncan has not 
performed cold fusion experiments himself and had the impression that 
the original claims were mistaken. He now says I am convinced that 
this excess-heat effect is real.


Most experts who have conducted independent evaluations of cold 
fusion have concluded the effect is real, notably Garwin, and 
Gerisher, who wrote: In spite of my earlier conclusion, -- and that 
of the majority of scientists, -- that the phenomena reported by 
Fleischmann and Pons in 1989 depended either on measurement errors or 
were of chemical origin, there is now undoubtedly overwhelming 
indications that nuclear processes take place in the metal alloys. 
See: 
http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GerischerHiscoldfusi.pdfhttp://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/GerischerHiscoldfusi.pdf


Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Jed Rothwell

OrionWorks wrote:


Any speculation as to why 60 Minutes has decided, now, to do an
article on this subject?


They have been working on it since before ICCF14. I do not know what 
triggered their interest at this particular time but I know they have 
been in contact with many researchers such as Mike Melich over the 
years. People like Melich have done a lot for the field, cultivating 
interest in high places. The people at CBS do their homework, unlike 
many other reporters. It must have cost them a fortune to produce 
this short segment.




I would love to know whom they have interviewed. Guess we shall soon know.


Krivit's coverage mentions the person I think is most important: 
Robert Duncan. Not that I consider him the preeminent expert on 
anything like that but he is an outsider to the field which gives him 
credibility. Of course now that he says he believes it, the skeptics 
will say he is an insider who has lost all credibility.


Krivit mentioned that fellow Dwight Williams from the Discovery 
Channel broadcast:


http://science.discovery.com/videos/brink-news-evidence-of-nuclear-fusion.html

I wrote about him elsewhere (or was it here?):

This show is generally supportive, but the interviewer talks to a 
DOE physicist Dr. Dwight Williams, who claims that cold fusion was 
never replicated. Clearly he did not bother to read the peer-reviewed 
literature. Scientists get their information from the mass media as 
often as anyone. They seldom bother to look at journal papers.


- Jed



Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit
stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote:

 Why now?

Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office?   Oh!

Terry



Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread mixent
In reply to  OrionWorks's message of Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:39:22 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Steve, or Jed

Any speculation as to why 60 Minutes has decided, now, to do an
article on this subject? Was there a specific tipping point, or have
they been quietly watching this field for some time now. Cumulative
effect?

I would love to know whom they have interviewed. Guess we shall soon know.

My guess, for what it's worth is that the recent announcement of evidence of
fast neutrons has rocked the boat here and there, and tipped a few people who
were doubtful over the line. The fact that this evidence is being produced in
government labs doesn't harm the cause.

[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html



Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Steven Krivit

oh yeah, almost forgot about that.

At 01:21 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit
stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote:

 Why now?

Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office?   Oh!

Terry




Re: [Vo]:...CBS TV's 60 Minutes Turns Up the Heat

2009-04-17 Thread Steven Krivit



At 01:21 PM 4/17/2009, you wrote:

On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Steven Krivit
stev...@newenergytimes.com wrote:

 Why now?

Could it be because the Oilies are Out of Office?   Oh!

Terry



Terry...why CBS? why now?

Something just fired in my neuro-net...Pure speculationI vaguely recall 
some incident with Dan Rather and Bob Park some years ago...I wonder if 
this is CBS' serving of crow


Steve