Re: [vox-tech] (no subject)
Have you tried the SacLUG mauling list? They are more local to you. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Dr. Denny Scronek pasze...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Brian. Thank you for the note. Let me tell you about my frustrations over the last week. First of all, I have a bad back and the idea of driving somewhere with my laptop and waiting around for the repair is not as attractive as someone coming to my place. Would save me a ton of genuine pain. The guy who was to repair my beast was suppose to come over on Monday (last week) and he completely blew me off without telling me. He did arrive on Tues. but stated that my internal CD/DVD burner was on the fritz and he didn't have a portable plug-in with him ... he would be back the next day ... which he again blew off. That is essentially my frustration ... people being flaky. My deal with him was for $85.00/hr. and he did't think it would take more than an hour but no guarantees; see how it goes. Anybody want to try a similar offer? If not I'm off to the Windows guy and I cross my fingers. Plus, I have to take my beast to him. My back will love that. So once again, anyone with genuine confidence in what they're doing? Not looking for miracles, just for competence and punctuality. The only guarantee I currently have is that I have a $1400. piece of useless equipment holding up a research project I want to get going. What fun. --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Brian Lavender br...@brie.com wrote: From: Brian Lavender br...@brie.com Subject: Re: [vox-tech] (no subject) To: lugod's technical discussion forum vox-tech@lists.lugod.org Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:40 PM Dr. Scronek, I suggest using Ubuntu on a stick. Boot with it. Copy your data to an external drive. Run the Install Ubuntu and wipe it clean! Start fresh. Every consulting gig comes not only with potential for profit, but also the risk of liability. We don't really know how bad your system is, so I would say that anyone who agrees on a fixed price may be in for more work that he initially bargained for, especially considering that you are tired of fixing the problem and you may have foobar'ed your system beyond wizard fixes. brian On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:03:43PM -0700, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: Hi Linux folks. Remember me ... the guy with the ubuntu infinite login loop problem? I still have the same problem and I'm not further along in solving it because the guy who was supposed to do this PAYING JOB was a complete flake. Fortunately all I lost was time so. This is what I am looking for: 1. A human being who will step up to the plate and fix my beast. 2. I live near Sac State. Come to my place, do your magic to my satisfation, get paid by an agreed amount, I say Thank You, and that's it. 3. I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE ADVICE ON FIXING IT MYSELF!! I'm trying to avoid taking my beast to a computer store to be worked on by a Windows person. WHO WANTS TO MAKE SOME MONEY? ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] (no subject)
Have you tried the SacLUG mauling list? They are more local to you. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jun 14, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Dr. Denny Scronek pasze...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello Brian. Thank you for the note. Let me tell you about my frustrations over the last week. First of all, I have a bad back and the idea of driving somewhere with my laptop and waiting around for the repair is not as attractive as someone coming to my place. Would save me a ton of genuine pain. The guy who was to repair my beast was suppose to come over on Monday (last week) and he completely blew me off without telling me. He did arrive on Tues. but stated that my internal CD/DVD burner was on the fritz and he didn't have a portable plug-in with him ... he would be back the next day ... which he again blew off. That is essentially my frustration ... people being flaky. My deal with him was for $85.00/hr. and he did't think it would take more than an hour but no guarantees; see how it goes. Anybody want to try a similar offer? If not I'm off to the Windows guy and I cross my fingers. Plus, I have to take my beast to him. My back will love that. So once again, anyone with genuine confidence in what they're doing? Not looking for miracles, just for competence and punctuality. The only guarantee I currently have is that I have a $1400. piece of useless equipment holding up a research project I want to get going. What fun. --- On Mon, 6/13/11, Brian Lavender br...@brie.com wrote: From: Brian Lavender br...@brie.com Subject: Re: [vox-tech] (no subject) To: lugod's technical discussion forum vox-tech@lists.lugod.org Date: Monday, June 13, 2011, 6:40 PM Dr. Scronek, I suggest using Ubuntu on a stick. Boot with it. Copy your data to an external drive. Run the Install Ubuntu and wipe it clean! Start fresh. Every consulting gig comes not only with potential for profit, but also the risk of liability. We don't really know how bad your system is, so I would say that anyone who agrees on a fixed price may be in for more work that he initially bargained for, especially considering that you are tired of fixing the problem and you may have foobar'ed your system beyond wizard fixes. brian On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 12:03:43PM -0700, Dr. Denny Scronek wrote: Hi Linux folks. Remember me ... the guy with the ubuntu infinite login loop problem? I still have the same problem and I'm not further along in solving it because the guy who was supposed to do this PAYING JOB was a complete flake. Fortunately all I lost was time so. This is what I am looking for: 1. A human being who will step up to the plate and fix my beast. 2. I live near Sac State. Come to my place, do your magic to my satisfation, get paid by an agreed amount, I say Thank You, and that's it. 3. I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE ADVICE ON FIXING IT MYSELF!! I'm trying to avoid taking my beast to a computer store to be worked on by a Windows person. WHO WANTS TO MAKE SOME MONEY? ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] (no subject)
What about posting the job offer to SacLug? They'd prolly be more local. Sent from my iPhone4 On Jun 13, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Jeff Newmiller jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us wrote: I am sorry you are having difficulties, but you don't seem to be proceeding effectively toward resolving them. Most of the people on this mailing list are not local to Sacramento. Those who are may not be comfortable acting as consultants. Yelling (all caps) is not going to change the mailing list demographic. If you need a consultant and no one has offered from this list, perhaps you should google linux consultants to look for people explicitly offering such services. Otherwise, technical advice is what this mailing list is all about, and you should use it as such. --- Jeff Newmiller The . . Go Live... DCN:jdnew...@dcn.davis.ca.us Basics: ##.#. ##.#. Live Go... Live: OO#.. Dead: OO#.. Playing Research Engineer (Solar/Batteries O.O#. #.O#. with /Software/Embedded Controllers) .OO#. .OO#. rocks...1k --- Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity. Dr. Denny Scronek pasze...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Linux folks. Remember me ... the guy with the ubuntu infinite login loop problem? I still have the same problem and I'm not further along in solving it because the guy who was supposed to do this PAYING JOB was a complete flake. Fortunately all I lost was time so. This is what I am looking for: 1. A human being who will step up to the plate and fix my beast. 2. I live near Sac State. Come to my place, do your magic to my satisfation, get paid by an agreed amount, I say Thank You, and that's it. 3. I DO NOT WANT ANY MORE ADVICE ON FIXING IT MYSELF!! I'm trying to avoid taking my beast to a computer store to be worked on by a Windows person. WHO WANTS TO MAKE SOME MONEY? STEP UP! ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Filename suffix dependent deletion problem with Samba
On Mar 20, 2011, at 3:58 AM, Rick Moen r...@linuxmafia.com wrote: Quoting Peter Salzman (p...@dirac.org): It appears that Samba refuses to delete files with certain types of extensions, but I can't find any mention of suffix-dependent permissions in Samba, so something else must be happening that *looks like* suffix dependent permissions. Just an idea based on attempting to Web-search your problem: Try (temporarily) setting 'log level = 10' in smb.conf and restart the daemons. Then, re-try the deletion operation. Then, examine your logfiles to see what clues emerge about the root cause. I stress 'temporarily' because log level 10 chews up disk space at an impressive clip. (Disclaimer: Haven't had occasion to admin Samba since 1999, so the above is all I'm likely to usefully offer.) Weird; google said log level 3 was the highest, but checking again I see references to 10. I'll try it tonight. Thanks. Even level 3 was a tremendous amount of logging. Can't imagine what 10 will be... ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Postfix + SMTP-AUTH: 1, Me: 0
Hi all, I've read that verizon.net blocks all outgoing mail that doesn't carry a verizon.net address. Most of what I read came from marginally technical Windows and Mac users, and it's unclear if this means the From header (what the recipient sees) or the mail from: SMTP header, which the recipient doesn't see. I just read that this policy quietly went away, so I decided to perform an experiment: [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet outgoing.verizon.net 25 Trying 206.46.232.12... Connected to outgoing.verizon.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 vms044pub.verizon.net -- Server ESMTP (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) helo dirac.org 250 vms044pub.verizon.net OK, [71.249.112.20]. mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 5.7.1 Authentication Required help 214-2.3.0 Available commands: 214-2.3.0 214-2.3.0 DATA, EHLO, EXPN, HELO, HELP, MAIL FROM 214-2.3.0 NOOP, QUIT, RCPT TO, RSET, SAML FROM 214-2.3.0 SEND FROM, SOML FROM, TICK, TURN 214-2.3.0 VERB, VRFY, XADR, XSTA, XCIR, ETRN 214-2.3.0 XGEN, LHLO, AUTH 214 2.3.0 quit 221 2.3.0 Bye received. Goodbye. Connection closed by foreign host. I had no idea what AUTH was, so I Googled. I think I have a better idea now, but I need some help setting it up. I found the Postfix SASL Howto at http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html. Currently going through it step by step. It appears I need something that implements SASL, a method to add security to older connection based protocols that don't have sufficient security. SMTP is one of them. 1. Going through the howto, it appears that the Cyrus implementation is what I want to use. So I installed: cyrus-common-2.2 cyrus-doc-2.2 cyrus-imapd-2.2 2. Next, I added the following lines to /etc/postfix/main.cf: relayhost = [outgoing.verizon.net] smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no 3. Next, it looks like I need to tell Cyrus how to perform authentication. It looks like there are 3 methods of authentication: a. Unix password database. But I'm trying to authenticate myself to Verizon.net's SMTP server, so I'm *assuming* that they want my Verizon username/password. I suppose I could add a user/password to /etc/shadow that's the same as my Verizon login, but this method didn't seem appropriate. b. Using the saslauthd daemon which can use PAM. However, since I'm only going to be using this for outgoing mail, I don't want a running daemon just for this purpose. c. Cyrus's own password database. This seems like the right choice. The howto says I need to set: pwcheck_method: auxprop in /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf. However, the file doesn't exist. After hunting around, I found /etc/imapd.conf owned by cyrus-common-2.2, and there's two items that look promising: sasl_pwcheck_method: auxprop # sasl_auxprop_plugin: sasldb Not an exact match, but it's close. The docs say that by default all plugins are tried, which is probably not what you want. At this point, I just want it to work and I'll finetune later. But I don't see any plugins in /usr/lib/sasl2 that identify themselves for SMTP authentication. I'll figure this out later. So it looks like the default options are good for me. 4. Next I'm supposed to populate the Cyrus database with: saslpasswd2 -c -u `postconf -h myhostname` MY_VERIZON_USERNAME which I did. I restarted postfix, and sent an email. It bounced shortly after: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: host outgoing.verizon.net[206.46.232.12] said: 550 5.7.1 Authentication Required (in reply to MAIL FROM command) So here I am. Angry. Frustrated. Not even sure if any of this is really remotely correct. It's ... absolutely bizarre that getting ESMTP to just work can be this difficult. Help? Pretty please? Pete ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] LATEX, ucthesis.cls and changes in font size
On Tue 05 Dec 06, 7:44 PM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Greetings,
I am attempting to use the ucthesis.cls document class for my MS thesis, but
have run into a bit of a snag in terms of altering font size. Commands like
\tiny \scriptsize etc. do not seem to have any effect within a verbatim
environment. I did not have this problem when using a different document
class. Ideally I would like all verbatim blocks to be slightly smaller than
the rest of the text so that they don't take up as much room on the page.
here is a link to some of the details:
http://www.movesinstitute.org/~kolsch/ucthesis/ucthesis.readme
Cheers,
Hey Dylan,
Do yourself a favor and don't ever use verbatim. There's another package
which is at least an order of magnitude better. Maybe even two orders of
magnitude. It's called fancyvrb.
You can change font size quite easily with it:
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=8]
foobar
\end{Verbatim}
The fancyvrb environment rocks supremely when you include another package
called 'relsize' because it allows you to change fontsize relative to the
current fontsize:
\usepackage{fancyvrb,relsize}
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=\relsize{-2}]
foobar
\end{Verbatim}
It also allows you to print line numbers next to the text on the left margin
(note you can also use numbers=right to get the numbers to the right of
the text).
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=\relsize{-2},numbers=left]
item 1
item 2
item 3
\end{Verbatim}
You can even define your own environment so you don't have to keep putting
the same options within the [] everytime you use fancyvrb:
\DefineVerbatimEnvironment%
{VerbatimProg}%
{Verbatim}%
{numbers=left, fontsize=\relsize{-2}, frame=single}
\begin{VerbatimProg}
int main( int argc, char *argv[] );
\end{VerbatimProg}
BTW, the frame=single means put a frame box around the verbatim text.
Another very cool feature.
One really great thing about fancyvrb is that you __can__ use LaTeX commands
from within the verbatim environment. OH YE!!
\DefineVerbatimEnvironment%
{VerbatimCmdProg}%
{Verbatim}%
{numbers=left, fontsize=\relsize{-2}, frame=single, commandchars=\\\{\}}
Allows you to do...
\begin{VerbatimCmdProg}
int main( void )
\{
printf(hello world\Backslash{n}); \label{printf_call}
return 0;
\}
\end{VerbatimCmdProg}
Here we call {\tt printf()} at line \ref{printf_call}.
Two things to note when you use the commandchars feature of fancyvrb:
* You have to escape the French braces { and }.
* You also have to jump through a hoop to print backslashes. Here's how
I defined \Backslash:
\newcommand{\Backslash}[1]{\texttt{\symbol{92}}#1}
This is just a very tiny example of the power of fancyvrb.
Have fun!
Peter
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[vox-tech] dhcp vs static hosts file
I'm now on a home network where IP addresses are handed out dynamically by the router/bridge/DSL modem combo. Suppose I have two Linux computers, Satan and Lucifer. Now that I no longer have predictable IP addresses on the home network, how do I accomplish something like: satan$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] when there's no longer a valid /etc/hosts file? Thanks! Peter ___ vox-tech mailing list vox-tech@lists.lugod.org http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] LATEX, ucthesis.cls and changes in font size
On Thu 07 Dec 06, 8:50 AM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
On 12/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue 05 Dec 06, 7:44 PM, Dylan Beaudette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
Greetings,
I am attempting to use the ucthesis.cls document class for my MS thesis,
but
have run into a bit of a snag in terms of altering font size. Commands
like
\tiny \scriptsize etc. do not seem to have any effect within a verbatim
environment. I did not have this problem when using a different document
class. Ideally I would like all verbatim blocks to be slightly smaller
than
the rest of the text so that they don't take up as much room on the page.
here is a link to some of the details:
http://www.movesinstitute.org/~kolsch/ucthesis/ucthesis.readme
Cheers,
Hey Dylan,
Do yourself a favor and don't ever use verbatim. There's another package
which is at least an order of magnitude better. Maybe even two orders of
magnitude. It's called fancyvrb.
You can change font size quite easily with it:
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=8]
foobar
\end{Verbatim}
The fancyvrb environment rocks supremely when you include another package
called 'relsize' because it allows you to change fontsize relative to the
current fontsize:
\usepackage{fancyvrb,relsize}
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=\relsize{-2}]
foobar
\end{Verbatim}
It also allows you to print line numbers next to the text on the left
margin
(note you can also use numbers=right to get the numbers to the right of
the text).
\begin{Verbatim}[fontsize=\relsize{-2},numbers=left]
item 1
item 2
item 3
\end{Verbatim}
You can even define your own environment so you don't have to keep putting
the same options within the [] everytime you use fancyvrb:
\DefineVerbatimEnvironment%
{VerbatimProg}%
{Verbatim}%
{numbers=left, fontsize=\relsize{-2}, frame=single}
\begin{VerbatimProg}
int main( int argc, char *argv[] );
\end{VerbatimProg}
BTW, the frame=single means put a frame box around the verbatim text.
Another very cool feature.
One really great thing about fancyvrb is that you __can__ use LaTeX
commands
from within the verbatim environment. OH YE!!
\DefineVerbatimEnvironment%
{VerbatimCmdProg}%
{Verbatim}%
{numbers=left, fontsize=\relsize{-2}, frame=single,
commandchars=\\\{\}}
Allows you to do...
\begin{VerbatimCmdProg}
int main( void )
\{
printf(hello world\Backslash{n}); \label{printf_call}
return 0;
\}
\end{VerbatimCmdProg}
Here we call {\tt printf()} at line \ref{printf_call}.
Two things to note when you use the commandchars feature of fancyvrb:
* You have to escape the French braces { and }.
* You also have to jump through a hoop to print backslashes. Here's how
I defined \Backslash:
\newcommand{\Backslash}[1]{\texttt{\symbol{92}}#1}
This is just a very tiny example of the power of fancyvrb.
Have fun!
Peter
Thanks Pete!
I will look into this immediately!
Also, as a more general question: would you or any others recommend
using the slightly dated ucthesis.cls ? Or would the book class, with
some tweaking be better?
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Dylan
The ucthesis is subtley different from Davis's requirement. I believe
ucthesis is actually ucberkeleythesis. Apparently the requirements are
_not_ uniform across the UC campuses.
That said, it gets you very close. It all depends on the mood of the person
who checks your document. I don't think anyone hunches over your thesis
with a ruler and straight edge any longer. There was a very minor thing
with my dissertation, but I can't even remember what it was anymore. That's
the other fiction...since the advent of a computer, all of a sudden,
reformatting your thesis takes on a whole different dimension. A few clicks
of a keyboard. Back in the day, of course, you had to rewrite a 100+ page
tech document.
I would start with ucthesis since it's so close to what you need. Borrowing
someone's modified file is the best thing to do. If you like, I can dig
around for my modified ucthesis and send it to you offlist.
Pete
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[vox-tech] building a dual opteron system
hola, i've been planning out a dual opteron system for awhile now. the system i have in mind has dual RAM channels - one for each CPU, meaning, my baseline motherboard price is about $400. in particular, i'm planning around the tyan thunder k8w. is anyone else planning on building a dual opteron system? if so, please contact me off list so we can compare notes. i have my system pretty much mapped out in a text file, (including the price as a function of past month, which sadly isn't decreasing as fast as i thought it would). but i'd like to get some input from other people who have been thinking about these systems too. thanks, pete -- Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler. -- Albert Einstein GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] USB mouse moves too fast with custom 2.6.5 kernel
I heard that putting a pair of scissors to the mouse cable drastically cuts down its jumpiness. ;-) Ach, it's Friday night here in Germany - time to release the mouse and hit the bar! Gruess, Edwin At 10:14 AM 5/7/04 -0700, you wrote: When I use a USB mouse with my new kernel, it jumps at least two pixels no matter how small a motion I make. Other people have schnitt Issac Trotts http://mallorn.ucdavis.edu/~ijtrotts (w) 530-757-8789 ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Best way to clear a BIOS password
Say, I think someone forgot to tell Bill to copy down the CMOS settings (like virus-checker OFF) before using the BIOS jumper. I hope there weren't any other important values that were not the default ones before doing the BIOS jumper thing. [claps forehead] Waaait, you can't copy down the CMOS settings when the BIOS password is active! So is there a utility that can read the CMOS settings even when there BIOS password?? Edwin At 06:11 PM 1/9/04 -0800, you wrote: On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 04:14:03PM -0800, Trevor Lango wrote: It's not smarter; using the bios jumper (at least on my system) resets everything, including the password. Yep, it worked! It also reenabled some virus-checker which didn't like LILO. Had to disable that and reboot. ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Mail Header Weirdness (Mutt/Exim)
I just got sending email to work on my Debian 3 machine! I am checking what's on my university mail server by POP3 using mutt, and I compose mail in mutt, sending it via SMTP and exim to my university mail server. When I check my mail, the From: header is what I want - my regular university email account, but the Sender: and ReturnPath: headers are [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is the login and computer name of my Debian machine. Should I worry about the last two headers not having the same address as the first header? Thanks in advance for the help, Edwin ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Boot Disk Not a True Rescue
Ach, perfect! It is just what I was looking for. All on one floppy too... I hope I don't need it soon, but I'll keep it handy. Edwin At 01:00 PM 11/30/03 -0800, you wrote: On Sunday 30 November 2003 12:53 pm, Edwin P. Groot wrote: ... Where do I get a root floppy with tools to repair with when things go wrong? Try http://www.toms.net/rb/;. -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Boot Disk Not a True Rescue
Hi there, Hope you guys can solve something that's been bothering me. I am using a Debian 3 distribution as a workstation at work, and I had made the boot floppy during the installation process. I tested this boot floppy for safety's sake, and it says it will mount root from /dev/sda1. It not only does that, but starts the init process on that partition, starting up my workstation in the usual way. Now what use is that floppy if that partition is damaged, or I hosed some files while recompiling the kernel? At the boot: prompt on this floppy I entered linux.bin root=/dev/fd0 and it says VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER after starting the kernel. I simply hit Enter because all I have is a boot floppy, but the kernel became panicky and halted. In my opinion this floppy is not playing with a full deck of cards. Where do I get a root floppy with tools to repair with when things go wrong? TIA, Edwin ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Training spamassassin's bayenessian filter
On Thu 06 Nov 03, 8:29 AM, R. Douglas Barbieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 09:59:12PM -0800, Ryan Castellucci wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 05 November 2003 09:24 pm, Ken Bloom wrote: Will SpamAssassin's bayenessian be more effective if I train it on every message that comes through (even ones that it's built in tests have already rejected as spam) or only on false negatives? Yes, it's much more effective if you train it on all messages. Woah. Dumb question, but when did SpamAssassin go Bayesian? It's one of the reasons I switched away from it to Bogofilter. i was wondering the same thing. it's actually a little difficult finding references to bayesian filtering on sa's website. if you do a google search, most of the results are on LUG mailing lists. according the sa site, version 2.5 had it. the version i'm using on one of the accounts i own on someone else's machine, 2.43, didn't have it. that's pretty cool. maybe someday /. will have a bayesian filter shootout to see who's most effective. ;-) but to be honest, bayesian filtering along with lexical parsing seems to be the most effective (incoming mail to dirac has both). sa's lexical filtering, for me at least, only catches the most obvious spams. i've had to bump up some of the score results to get anything resembling effective. i'm glad they introduced this new functionality. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] gentoo's portage vs. debian's apt-get
On Tue 04 Nov 03, 12:24 PM, Michael J Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Another plug towards gentoo, the dependency management is fairly good. I have not had any issues with it, however I for the most part avoid testing/unstable packages. Also, you have the ability to compile a package, insert a stub and have portage know about it. In other words, if you're system has an anchient perl5 and you want perl5.8, you can pull it down, and stub the package and not have it break the whole apt/dselect system. *boggle* this reminds me of some of the really wonderful and colorful things theo de raadt likes to say! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] shell question: globbing and command arguments
i've always wondered about this... if i have a bunch of files on a remote host beginning with backup, i can copy them to the local host using: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup* . and it works. but why? doesn't the shell get to * first? i'd understand this working: scp '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup*' . but why does scp see the asterisk in the unquoted version? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] shell question: globbing and command arguments
On Mon 03 Nov 03, 8:59 AM, Mitch Patenaude [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: To be more general, you should escape the *, and then it gets passed to the remote scp, which is smart enough to handle it (it actually uses the shell on the remote machine to do the globbing.) If you're using older shells (real bourne shell, csh, etc.) then the unescaped * will cause an error (unless you 'set noglob' in csh). Bash is smart enough to realize that if no local globbing works, that it should just be passed on to the underlying program, ^ i didn't know that, but it's consistent in what i see with scp. so if i have backup.* in my local directoy, my example wouldn't work? i'll check that out. thank you! pete for instance: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mrp]$ echo frobble* frobble* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mrp]$ echo f* fern.jpg ffjuser30 flash forAudrey forte4j fun [EMAIL PROTECTED] mrp]$ csh [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo frobble* echo: No match. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ set noglob [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo frobble* frobble* [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ Thus endeth the unix history lesson :-) -- Mitch On Monday, Nov 3, 2003, at 08:37 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've always wondered about this... if i have a bunch of files on a remote host beginning with backup, i can copy them to the local host using: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup* . and it works. but why? doesn't the shell get to * first? i'd understand this working: scp '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup*' . but why does scp see the asterisk in the unquoted version? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] shell question: globbing and command arguments
On Mon 03 Nov 03, 9:08 AM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 08:58:22AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so if i have backup.* in my local directoy, my example wouldn't work? i'll check that out. No, your example was: scp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup* . So if you have files named, for example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup-me [EMAIL PROTECTED]:backup234 those'll end up being noticed by bash. Highly unlikely that you'd have files with those names, though. ;) oi vey. heh. you're definitely right! :) pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] samba redux: connection denied from w2k server
hi all, i know a whole lot more about MS windows networking than i did this morning (but it still feels like i don't know much). the linux samba server is a local, master and preferred browse master. it's also a WINS server. linux's IP address is 192.168.0.2. the win2k machine is 192.168.0.4. the goal is to browse linux's filesystem from win2k's computers near me. but when i double click computers near me i get the error testgroup is not accessible. the network path was not found. after a bunch more of tinkering, i started to see these hopeful messages in /var/log/log.smbd: [2003/10/29 15:26:15, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) Denied connection from (192.168.0.4) [2003/10/29 15:26:15, 1] smbd/process.c:process_smb(883) Connection denied from 192.168.0.4 [2003/10/29 15:26:15, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) Denied connection from (192.168.0.4) [2003/10/29 15:26:15, 1] smbd/process.c:process_smb(883) Connection denied from 192.168.0.4 [2003/10/29 15:26:28, 0] lib/access.c:check_access(328) Denied connection from (192.168.0.4) hopeful because now i have something concrete to work with, whereas this morning it simply didn't work. so win2k is denying connection from the linux samba server. i'm HOPING if i can figure out why, my networking problems will be over. playing around with win2k, i found 2 things which are related to security: 1. local area connection properties | TCP/IP | Properties | Advanced | Options | IP Security 2. local area connection properties | TCP/IP | Properties | Advanced | Options | TCP/IP filtering unfortunately, by clicking on properties of both these items, it appears that neither one is being used. so i'm really stumped why 192.168.0.4 is denying the connection to linux. even more perplexing, i can ping win2k from linux. so not ALL connections are being denied. anyone have any ideas? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] DIMM speed question
On Tue 28 Oct 03, 8:57 AM, Michael J Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:48:29AM -0800, Rod Roark wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2003 07:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you use faster DIMMs, say 2100PC, on a machine rated for slower DIMMs? Yes, as far as I know. Id be careful of voltage requirements. Also, I know this goes without saying, but I will say this anyways, do not force a DIMM into a socket. if the grooves don't match, then it won't work. huh? isn't 128 pins equal to 128 pins? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] DIMM speed question
i'm glad this was mentioned because i was planning on installing the DIMMs backwards. thankfully i read this in time, and know better now... ;) pete On Tue 28 Oct 03, 10:31 AM, Richard Burkhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Last time I heard 128 pins = 128 pins. But 128 pins, rotated 180 degrees so that the notch-key is in the wrong place, and then forced in with 'Armstrong Torque(tm)' is contra-indicated in the motherboard user manual. -Original Message- On Tue 28 Oct 03, 8:57 AM, Michael J Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Oct 28, 2003 at 07:48:29AM -0800, Rod Roark wrote: On Tuesday 28 October 2003 07:37 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can you use faster DIMMs, say 2100PC, on a machine rated for slower DIMMs? Yes, as far as I know. Id be careful of voltage requirements. Also, I know this goes without saying, but I will say this anyways, do not force a DIMM into a socket. if the grooves don't match, then it won't work. huh? isn't 128 pins equal to 128 pins? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] ssh-agent help
trying to understand ssh-agent... my understanding is that for ssh-agent to be useful, the process needs to be an ancestor of all your login (vc) and non-login (xterm) shells. where should it be run from? login shells source /etc/profile, so when i log into a virtual console and type startx, it should be an ancestor of all my xterms. but in my /etc/bash.bashrc, i source /etc/profile. will that cause problems with ssh-agent running separately for each xterm i create? thanks! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] possible to exit ssh with a program running?
On Thu 23 Oct 03, 8:17 AM, Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know that if I start a terminal window in X, run a program, and then manually close the window, the program dies. I also know that if I secure-shell into another machine and run a program, I cannot exit without first ending that program. Is there any way to start a program for a shell window and leave it running when I close the window? Also, is there anyway to leave a program running remotely, started through an ssh session, and exit ssh? The later would be very helpful, although I suspect these two issues are related. My research involves running computer simulations on several computers on campus. I would really like to ssh into the machines from home, start the simulations (which generate output to text files), and then exit the ssh sessions with the simulations in progress. This way I could close my internet connection (dial-up :( ) and turn my home computer off while the multi-day simulations run. Is this possible? Jonathan very possible, as nicole and tim pointed out with nohup and background operator. however, if your simulations are like mine, they spit out useful information every once in a while like whether the simulation has lost too much precision or how near it is to completion. screen might be a better choice if this is the case. simply instructions: 1. log into the machine that will run the simulation. 2. run screen. 3. start your simulation. 4. type ^d to detach your screen session. 5. log out. whenever you want to check up on your simulation, you can: 1. ssh back into the machine 2. run screen 3. your session will be restored 4. type ^d to detach it again if your simulation isn't done. for completeness, i used to use cron and atd for this same purpose. atd worked well. but screen is a much better solution. i was a newbie back then. :) also, i've found this helpful: ./mysimulation ; mail -s i'm done [EMAIL PROTECTED] so you know when the thing is done and don't have to keep checking back every few hours. hth, pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] win32 compiler
thanks jon (and mark). one question. are GUI development libraries available on microsoft? in other words, can you compile GUI oriented programs (and not just programs that live in a DOS box). i know there's something called MFC which (i think) people have to pay for, but i have no idea what it does. sorry for being so lame, but i really know NOTHING about windows, other than how to it set up to talk to samba. :) pete On Tue 21 Oct 03, 9:50 AM, Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Pete Are you aware of Bloodshed Dev-C++ (http://www.bloodshed.net/devcpp.html)? It appears to use a windows port of GCC for the compiler. It's all GUI oriented, which I know you don't like, but when I tried with some simple programs it just worked. I don't know anything about mxwindows, though. Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've played around with wxwindows, which is supposed to be one of the most cross platform GUIs around. i've written some test programs on linux, and now i'd like to try to compile them on windows (we have win98). there's lcc-win32, but AFAIKS, it's for C, not C++. are there any free C++ win32 compilers that will compile my wxwindows code? pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Un[L]imiting Mutt display?
On Tue 21 Oct 03, 3:14 PM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:58:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: then press the left arrow key to go back to the unlimited display. it essentially re-reads re-displays your mailspool. I didn't want to specifically move back to mailspool, nor did I want to re-read the mailbox. Say I'm on message 930 (finding it after [L]imiting based on something complicated, like a body (~b) or 'To:' (~t) search). I'd like to, if at all possible, KEEP message 930 highlighted when I 'unlimit' the display. The left arrow macro you listed is a neat trick to get back to my inbox, though. Thanks! :^) sure. i'm glad you found it cute. but try this for an answer: do a limit on a* that is, zero or more occurances of a which should be everything in the inbox. let me know if that works. i'm running out the door right now to do to dinner... pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] win32 compiler
i've played around with wxwindows, which is supposed to be one of the most cross platform GUIs around. i've written some test programs on linux, and now i'd like to try to compile them on windows (we have win98). there's lcc-win32, but AFAIKS, it's for C, not C++. are there any free C++ win32 compilers that will compile my wxwindows code? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X-No-Archive Inheritance?
On Fri 17 Oct 03, 8:43 PM, Jeff Newmiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Ryan Castellucci wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 17 October 2003 02:45 pm, Jonathan Stickel wrote: I hesitate to post my 2-cents due to ignorance, but here goes: It seems to me that the point of choosing not to archive a message (with X-No-Archive) is because the message is not worth archiving for some reason (e.g. one-liner, too silly, etc.). Anyone thinking that they can protect personal information by not archiving a message should think again. Any message sent to a vox list is sent to over 100 different person's mailboxes who can do with it what they will... My concern is that someone could post a question that deals with something illegal (DMCA violations). Archiving this would be bad. Jonathan's point is that you can't prevent it from being archived when you post it to a public mailing list. You can suggest that it not be, but you cannot prevent it from being archived. Therefore, be careful what you say... caveat lector. i think the mistake is that some people don't realize: X-No-Archive: * is used to protect the list archives from clutter. examples: i have a hard drive for sale me too! * is NOT used to protect the poster. examples: hey, i have a secret i've got drugs to sell to use X-No-Archive to protect yourself is like using a vesectomy to protect yourself from AIDS. it's just plain wrong. when you send anything to to 300 people, you should be prepared for it to be accessible to the world. if you're not prepared for that, you had no business sending the message in the first place. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X-No-Archive Inheritance?
On Fri 17 Oct 03, 4:00 AM, Ryan Castellucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I post a message with 'X-No-Archive: Yes' will replys also not be archived? unfortunately not. two things: 1. we COULD search the body for X-No-Archive, so if someone quoted your email, your wishes would be respected. it wouldn't be perfect. what if they trimmed that line? it would depend on a quoting system using . you couldn't post an email with a lines like /^X-No-Archive.*/. 2. but you may also ask so what?. it's a public forum. you shouldn't expect posts not to be archived. if you have an idea how to implement a threadful X-No-Archive, and it's either easy to implement or you want to implement it yourself, then i'm all for it. just realize that X-No-Archive is like copy protection. the responder can bypass any system we institute. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] X-No-Archive Inheritance?
On Fri 17 Oct 03, 1:46 PM, Micah J. Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 06:37:23AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri 17 Oct 03, 4:00 AM, Ryan Castellucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If I post a message with 'X-No-Archive: Yes' will replys also not be archived? unfortunately not. two things: 1. we COULD search the body for X-No-Archive, so if someone quoted your email, your wishes would be respected. it wouldn't be perfect. what if they trimmed that line? it would depend on a quoting system using . you couldn't post an email with a lines like /^X-No-Archive.*/. Trimmed? X-No-Archive is supposed to be a header, right? not really---it can be whatever we want it to be. there's no law saying we can't cook up a home made system. non-traditional, but possible. I wouldn't expect that to show up in the quoting message at all. 2. but you may also ask so what?. it's a public forum. you shouldn't expect posts not to be archived. if you have an idea how to implement a threadful X-No-Archive, and it's either easy to implement or you want to implement it yourself, then i'm all for it. just realize that X-No-Archive is like copy protection. the responder can bypass any system we institute. Yeah, but I think the scenario he wishes to avoid would be: 1. Alice posts potentially sensitive information to list, setting X-No-Archive. 2. Bob posts a response, which includes a quote containing said information; but either doesn't realize the information may be sensitive, or forgets to set X-No-Archive. of course. Maybe the first 5 Bobs remember: but it only takes one accidental forgetting to post it for the world to see. It's far from the ideal, which would be that if a Bob would have to *explicitly* enable archiving from such a response if that's really what he means. right. One implementation which would seem to work well would be for a filter to check the headers to all messages in the References header; and if it found X-No-Archive, keep the response unarchived also. This is not trivial to implement though (but not too difficult, either), and I don't think I care quite enough to spend time on it. :-( heh. that's always the issue, though, ain't it? :-) yeah, i've tossed that exact same idea onto vox-officers, but somebody has to write it. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] sick idea: openoffice macros
On Wed 15 Oct 03, 10:12 PM, Henry House [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: På onsdag, 15 oktober 2003, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: hi all, i did a google for this and didn't find anything relevent, but maybe some vim users who know more about openoffice would like this idea. i hate using the mouse and love vim's fast editing keystrokes. has anybody heard of, or knows how to, implement keyboard macros for openoffice that would let me use openoffice with vim keystrokes? Very groovy idea. Did you know that Abiword has a vi mode? It is undocumented but does work, more or less. If there is interest, I will post instructions. heh. sure i'm interested. might even make me switch over from open office. go ahead and post it! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] nuppelvideo
hola lugod, nuppelvideo gives MUCH higher quality than xawtv. thanks for suggesting it, ryan. two silly but important questions: if there's a certain point in the video that i want to start recording at, xawtv was easy. i'd watch the movie and then click start recording when the important section comes up. the only way i can think of with nuppelvideo is to watch the movie with xawtv, then when the section comes up, pause the video, kill xawtv, run nuvrec and play the video. is there a better way? lastly, how can i stop recording if i don't know how long the video lasts? the only way i can think of is control c, but there HAS to be a better way. it's silly to have to time a video before recording it. thanks! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] debian bug - don't know who to contact
i found a debian bug, but i don't know how to report it. when using modprobe -(a|r) bttv, i always get error messages. the reason for this is these entries in /etc/modutils/actions: # The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically, # so do that in here post-install bttv insmod tuner post-remove bttv rmmod tuner but, at least for 2.4.22, bttv.o DOES stack tuner.o. the failure message is no big deal. all it's saying is i couldn't load tuner.o because it's already loaded. for now, i commented out those lines. but i'd like to make somebody aware of this (possibly new behavior) of bttv.o. but i have no idea which package wrote these actions into /etc/modutils/actions. any ideas on how to report this? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] debian bug - don't know who to contact
On Wed 15 Oct 03, 9:15 AM, Matt Roper [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 06:20:51AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i found a debian bug, but i don't know how to report it. when using modprobe -(a|r) bttv, i always get error messages. the reason for this is these entries in /etc/modutils/actions: # The BTTV module does not load the tuner module automatically, # so do that in here post-install bttv insmod tuner post-remove bttv rmmod tuner but, at least for 2.4.22, bttv.o DOES stack tuner.o. the failure message is no big deal. all it's saying is i couldn't load tuner.o because it's already loaded. for now, i commented out those lines. but i'd like to make somebody aware of this (possibly new behavior) of bttv.o. but i have no idea which package wrote these actions into /etc/modutils/actions. any ideas on how to report this? Hi Pete. These lines are present in the /etc/modutils/actions provided by a clean install of the modutils package; they were not added by a separate package. It looks like you should file your bug against modutils. Matt hey matt, for some reason, i find that totally bizarre, but it appears you're right - i can't find any of my machines that don't have these actions. i don't agree with a distribution making corrections for what's probably a (minor) kernel module dependency bug. even if bttv used to stack incorrectly, that was better left as a look it up on google than to stick it into modutils/actions. kernel developers were bound to correct the mistake at some point... anyway, thanks. i'll make the report right now. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Kernel compile - debian magic steps
hi richard, it's easier, but i still do it the non-distro specific way. i dunno why. out of habit, maybe. google has loads and loads of references: http://www.google.com/search?q=debian+kernel+compilesourceid=operanum=100ie=utf-8oe=utf-8 two which looked good right off the bat: http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2949 http://members.datafast.net.au/tmccoy/kernel_compile.html pete On Wed 15 Oct 03, 10:53 AM, Richard Burkhart [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At an installfest ages ago, Mike Simons walked me through doing kernel patch/recompiles to put Win4Lin on my machine, and to get CD-RW working. While there, he installed a script that cut out several of the normal kernel compile steps, and spit a *.deb file out at the end of the process. Does anyone know/remember what those steps are, and where that script might be found? I've searched through the vox archives, and haven't found a reference. Thanks, Richard B. -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] sick idea: openoffice macros
hi all,
i did a google for this and didn't find anything relevent, but maybe
some vim users who know more about openoffice would like this idea.
i hate using the mouse and love vim's fast editing keystrokes. has
anybody heard of, or knows how to, implement keyboard macros for
openoffice that would let me use openoffice with vim keystrokes?
something to implement:
mode switching
d
R
x
J
registers
marks
command filtering
}
{
the three visual modes
etc?
pete
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Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies
ok, i've been playing around with this for awhile, and the results are not great. i recorded the opening theme of southpark under different settings. the default settings of: samplerate: 44100 frames: 12 fps produce a file of 72MB for about 26s of video. the video is bad, but watchable if i'm jonesing for southpark. if it weren't a cartoon, it would truly be unwatchable. i bumped the sample rate up to 48000, however both the video quality and filesize don't change. what exactly is the difference between samplerate and fps anyhow? so then i bumped it up: samplerate: 44100 frames: 20 fps the video quality was ok. certainly watchable, but not high quality by any stretch of the imagination. the filesize is 120MB for 26s. i'm already at about 1/6 - 1/7 of the capacity of a CD. there's no way a 20 minute video will fit on a CD. just out of curiosity, i bumped it up again to: samplerate: 44100 frames: 30 fps the video was good, but still not high quality. the filesize is a whopping 183MB for 26s. my computer (1.4MHz athlon) is working hard to keep sync with audio. i just upgraded my kernel to 2.4.22, and didn't bother installing the low latency patch this time around. i guess i can try that tomorrow evening. i'm a little disheartened. quake3 can get to very high framerates with ease; my machine does q3 very nicely. but then again, that's all hardware accelerated opengl stuff. but in any event, it's filesize that seems to be the show stopper here. at this rate, a 20min video will take somewhere between 5GB and 8GB. this is unreasonable. i'm exhausted and about to call it a night. does anybody have suggestions on how to get good quality video at reasonable filesize? should i be working in a format other than AVI? pete On Mon 13 Oct 03, 9:06 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think the driver needs to support saving videos. Assuming it does, run xawtv with -noxv option, 'cuz it can't save videos when the video is coming through the xvideo extension. Then select Record Movie from the menu, then change movie driver: multiple image files to one of the valid movie formats. Supply the movie/images filename, then click start/stop recording. That works for me but I don't use hauppauge so... Good luck! -Mark On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all, i owned a microsoft OS for a few weeks before switching to linux. in those few weeks, i bought a hauppauge wincast TV card. it worked marginarlly well, but the driver had issues. anyway, i installed linux soon after and completely forgot about the card, giving up on it ever being supported by linux. that was back in the redhat 5.1 days, and supported hardware was ... sparse. anyway, i recently came across the card and did some research. it's now supported by linux! hooray! after... reading ~linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv recompiling the kernel figuring out how to connect the card to my soundcard playing with sound settings hooking the card up to my VCR i got the card to work. it took a bit long to get working under linux, but it's much less flakey. the windows driver crashed very often, making the card painful to use (one of the reasons why i forgot about the card). anyway, i want to put some of my old VCR tapes onto hard drive and perhaps eventually burn them to DVD. has anybody ever done this? i can use xawtv to watch my tapes, but for some reason, it doesn't want to record. it refuses to record the movie to disk (although i can get screenshots). i'm about to go to freshmeat, but if anybody does this kind of thing, i'd like to hear what you use and about your experiences with this kind of software. i'm a TOTAL newbie with video on linux, but i'd like to get acquainted with it. thanks! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies
On Mon 13 Oct 03, 11:33 PM, Samuel N. Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As far as I know, AVI is a container format, not an encoding format. Your software is probably just saving raw frames with a little AVI container data. You'll need to compress them with a real video codec. MPEG-2 isn't the highest-compression thing in the world, but there are good open-source implementations. thanks sam, and ryan, and mark, and doug. it's obvious that i'm going to have to learn a little bit; there appears to be a pretty steep learning curve, as with everything that isn't just a matter of hitting the do it button on a GUI. sam, just so i have some extra lingo, what are some other container formats besides AVI? and what's the difference between MPEG-2 and MPEG-4 which ryan suggested? are the -2 and -4 what people call layer, as in mpeg layer 3? so is MPEG both an audio and a video encoding scheme? it looks like this process is similar to making mp3's. first you rip, then you encode. probably because, as ryan pointed out, encoding is an expensive process. so here is what i gather from everybody's replies: 1. it looks like i have a few choices for ripping to disk: mplayer xawtv nuppelvideo mjpegtools 2. and a few choices for encoding: mencoder (part of mplayer distribution) mjpegtools ffmpeg transcode 3. between ripping and encoding, ryan gave a suggestion on basic editing like cutting out commercials or upcoming attractions of movies that were released 5 years ago (i hate the fact that they put upcoming attraction on videos that i purchase). a few is ok, but sometimes they really let it get out of hand). avidemux so is this about right? also, sometimes i see people write DivX ;-). what exactly does that smiley face mean? and what exactly is DivX anyhow? thanks everybody, for bringing me up to speed. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] bogofilter question
dear fellow bogofilter users, i'm in the process of training bogofilter. i've decided to not do it automatically, with the -u(pdate) option, since the docs warn not to. instead, everytime an email comes in, i've aliased ^n to pass it to bogofilter as nospam and ^s to pass it to bogofilter as spam. so far, i've got about 600 spams and 600 hams (as the bogofilter docs call it): [EMAIL PROTECTED] bogoutil -w ~/.bogofilter .MSG_COUNT spam good .MSG_COUNT 559575 side note: i was hardly surprised that half my incoming email is spam. according to the docs, i'm lucky since you want these numbers to be roughly the same. now at some point, i'm going to have to edit .procmail to start sending email to /dev/null if it sees: * ^X-Bogosity:.*Yes which means that i'll only be training bogofilter on false negatives (and unfortunately, false positives will be gone, but the whole point is to not see spam anymore, not just to save them in some file that i have sort through periodically). the bogofilter docs recommend that i should do this at about 10,000 emails. a bogofilter website (one of the developers) said this number should be more like 20,000. that's absurd. i've only seen a false positive once or twice, when i first started to use bogofilter. false negatives are rare. maybe one or two a week. are there any more experienced bogofilter people out there who thought about this issue? if so, what was your conclusion? i can't see doing this for much past 1000 emails in each ham/spam bin. lastly, the docs recommend not to share databases with other people because the whole point is to tailor bogofilter for the type of spam and ham that arrives in YOUR inbox. not other people's inboxes. otherwise, you might as well use a lexical analyzer like spamcop. are there any experienced bogofilter users here that have thought about this issue? i suspect the docs may overstate this claim. we all get offered XXX videos, penis enlargements and international bank transfers. but then again, i'm still vaguely a bogofilter newbie, so i'd like some guidance if anybody has actually thought about this issue. thanks, pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] bogofilter question
On Tue 14 Oct 03, 6:40 PM, Henry House [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: På tisdag, 14 oktober 2003, skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] the bogofilter docs recommend that i should do this at about 10,000 emails. a bogofilter website (one of the developers) said this number should be more like 20,000. That is rather extreme. I found that matching because really good after 1000 messages. lastly, the docs recommend not to share databases with other people because the whole point is to tailor bogofilter for the type of spam and ham that arrives in YOUR inbox. not other people's inboxes. otherwise, you might as well use a lexical analyzer like spamcop. are there any experienced bogofilter users here that have thought about this issue? i suspect the docs may overstate this claim. we all get offered XXX videos, penis enlargements and international bank transfers. but then again, i'm still vaguely a bogofilter newbie, so i'd like some guidance if anybody has actually thought about this issue. I used to discount this, but I am starting to agree that sharing is bad since I am now getting degraded matching quality (spams getting through when they should not) with a shared database. henry, i wanted to thank you for these answers; they're exactly what i wanted to know! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] wincast tv: video4linux and copying movies
hi all, i owned a microsoft OS for a few weeks before switching to linux. in those few weeks, i bought a hauppauge wincast TV card. it worked marginarlly well, but the driver had issues. anyway, i installed linux soon after and completely forgot about the card, giving up on it ever being supported by linux. that was back in the redhat 5.1 days, and supported hardware was ... sparse. anyway, i recently came across the card and did some research. it's now supported by linux! hooray! after... reading ~linux/Documentation/video4linux/bttv recompiling the kernel figuring out how to connect the card to my soundcard playing with sound settings hooking the card up to my VCR i got the card to work. it took a bit long to get working under linux, but it's much less flakey. the windows driver crashed very often, making the card painful to use (one of the reasons why i forgot about the card). anyway, i want to put some of my old VCR tapes onto hard drive and perhaps eventually burn them to DVD. has anybody ever done this? i can use xawtv to watch my tapes, but for some reason, it doesn't want to record. it refuses to record the movie to disk (although i can get screenshots). i'm about to go to freshmeat, but if anybody does this kind of thing, i'd like to hear what you use and about your experiences with this kind of software. i'm a TOTAL newbie with video on linux, but i'd like to get acquainted with it. thanks! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] procmail list marking - help needed
bill,
check out man procmailrc and look for TO. note the captitalization.
that will do what you want:
If the regular expression contains ‘^TO_’ it will be substituted by
‘(^((Original‐)?(Resent‐)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X‐Envelope
|Apparently(‐Resent)?)‐To):(.*[^‐a‐zA‐Z0‐9_.])?)’, which should catch
all destination specifications containing a specific address.
pete
On Thu 09 Oct 03, 11:07 AM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I have Procmail entries like this one:
:0
* ^To:(.*\)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{ TAG=[mysql] }
(where TAG is a little function to shove a string at the beginning
of the subject line, much like what's done on MOST lists I subscribe
to, like vox-* do here at LUGOD)
However, as you can see, it only checks the To: line.
Sometimes people reply to a poster, and then Cc the list.
I'm always afraid to play with my live .procmailrc file, and don't
really have a 'test' environment (I'm sure someone'll explain an easy
way to test stuff on the shell ;^) ), but would something like this
work?
:0
* ^(To:|Cc:)(.*\)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
{ TAG=[mysql] }
Man, I need to brush up on regexp I think ;)
Thx for helping a pitiful procmailer,
-bill!
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Re: [vox-tech] using xmodmap to swap modifier key locations
Pete alluded to, but did not describe, the xev utility. Use it to figure out *precisely* what X thinks the keys are. Do this before applying the new map (so, if you've already done so, you'll need to restart X). I doubt you need to do anything to your XF86Config file(s), necessarily, you just need to find the keycodes, keysyms, etc. for your keyboard. FYI, I use this trick in every linux environment I get my hands on, and it's always worked as is. shawn. On Wednesday 08 October 2003 11:05 pm, Henry House wrote: The manual page for xmodmap lists the following example (exact quote): ! ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L ! remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L which is said to turn the left caps lock key into a control key and the left control key into a caps lock key. It does not work. On my system, running the above commands (saved to a file, then run using 'xmodmap filename') turns the left control key into a shift key (!) and has no effect on the caps lock key. Neither xmodmap nor the x server print any errors or other messages. Does anyone have a suggestion? My XFree86 config file follows. Section Module #Loaddbe# Double buffer extension #SubSection extmod # Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension #EndSubSection Loadextmod Loadtype1 Loadfreetype EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath tcp/wotan:7110 EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierKeyboard1 DriverKeyboard Option AutoRepeat 500 30 #Option XkbRulesxfree86 #Option XkbModelpc101 #Option XkbLayout us EndSection Section InputDevice IdentifierMouse1 Drivermouse OptionProtocolPS/2 OptionDevice /dev/psaux OptionEmulate3Buttons true #Option Emulate3Timeout 50 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier My Monitor HorizSync 50-75 VertRefresh 50-100 OptionDPMS EndSection Section Device Identifiertrident VendorNameUnknown BoardName Unknown Drivertrident #VideoRam 65536 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Screen1 Device trident Monitor My Monitor DefaultDepth 16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 1280x1024 EndSubSection EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Simple Layout ScreenScreen1 InputDevice Mouse1 CorePointer InputDevice Keyboard1 CoreKeyboard EndSection #end ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] moving gpg keys to another computer
hi all, if my gnupg keyring and stuff is on from.host and i want to be able to sign and encrypt files on to.host, is it good enough to simply do this: scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:.gnupg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: or are there other issues involved? is it just a matter of copying the .gnupg directory to the other host? i've never use gpg on to.host, so ~/.gnupg doesn't exist on to.host. thanks, pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] ssh-agent question
hi all, i've heard it said if you use ssh-agent, your passphrase is cached so you can log in to a computer without your passphrase after the 1st login. i've used rsa authentication, but have never used ssh-agent. so i've always had to enter my passphrase whenever logging in to a host. yesterday i created id_dsa.pub and started to play around. here's what i found: 1. if the remote .ssh/authorized_keys2 only has the id_rsa.pub, i need to enter my passphrase each time, since i haven't used ssh-agent yet. 2. if the remote .ssh/authorized_keys2 has both id_rsa.pub and id_dsa.pub, it asks me for my id_rsa passphrase each time, since i haven't used ssh-agent yet. 3. if the remote .ssh/authorized_keys2 only has id_dsa.pub, i only need to enter my passphrase ONCE. after that, my passphrase is presumably cached and i no longer need to enter my passphrase to ssh into the remote system. number 3 surprises me. i've been trying to find references to dsa keys being automatically cached without usine ssh-agent, and i can't find any. are dsa keys automatically cached? pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] using xmodmap to swap modifier key locations
hi henry, sorry to do this to you, but the man page example actually works for me; it swaps my caps lock and left control keys. my current keyboard is a memorex MX 3000. one of those angled away designs that's supposed to be a more natural positions for your wrists and hands. here's my keyboard section: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us Option XkbVariant microsoft EndSection my last keyboard was a microsoft angled away keyboard. they must have the same real manufacturer (they look the same). anyway, try adding these lines if you think they're relevent (i have to admit that keyboard stuff under linux is too uninteresting for me to really get to know well). Option XkbRules xfree86 Option XkbModel pc104 Option XkbLayout us Option XkbVariant microsoft oh, one more thing. here's my xevent for the caps lock: KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0xe1, root 0x56, subw 0xe2, time 1263659015, (37,45), root:(693,64), state 0x2, keycode 23 (keysym 0xff09, Tab), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 1 characters: and here's my left control key: KeyPress event, serial 25, synthetic NO, window 0xe1, root 0x56, subw 0xe2, time 1263730336, (36,50), root:(692,69), state 0x0, keycode 37 (keysym 0xffe3, Control_L), same_screen YES, XLookupString gives 0 characters: see if you have the same keycodes/keysyms as i do. even though i'm grasping at straws, i hope something in here helps. :( pete On Wed 08 Oct 03, 10:05 PM, Henry House [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The manual page for xmodmap lists the following example (exact quote): ! ! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L ! remove Lock = Caps_Lock remove Control = Control_L keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L add Lock = Caps_Lock add Control = Control_L which is said to turn the left caps lock key into a control key and the left control key into a caps lock key. It does not work. On my system, running the above commands (saved to a file, then run using 'xmodmap filename') turns the left control key into a shift key (!) and has no effect on the caps lock key. Neither xmodmap nor the x server print any errors or other messages. Does anyone have a suggestion? My XFree86 config file follows. Section InputDevice IdentifierKeyboard1 DriverKeyboard Option AutoRepeat 500 30 #Option XkbRulesxfree86 #Option XkbModelpc101 #Option XkbLayout us EndSection -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] errors in sshd_config manpage?
someone please tell me if these are erros in sshd_config(5) (debian/testing): 1. DSAAuthentication is undocumented. i assume it exists; sshd restarted without complaining. 2. the manpage claims that the RSAAuthentication options applies to ssh version 1 only. is that really correct?!? also, when setting up paswordless logins, what is the benefit of using DSA over RSA? is it a matter of security or a matter patent? i thought the RSA patent expired recently... thanks, pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] debian help: samba package (not samba) apparently broken
hi all, first off, my samba works fine. i can print, browse, share printers, and whatever between linux and windows. samba runs from inetd.conf since windows is hardly ever booted. i'm having woes upgrading, removing and installing samba because the file /etc/samba/debian_config is not on my system. after googling, i've found that this file tells debian whether samba runs from startup scripts or inetd, but this file isn't on my system and i can't find the format of this file anywhere. i thought this might write /etc/samba/debian_config: dpkg-reconfigure samba but all it does is... satan# dpkg-reconfigure samba The file /etc/samba/debian_config does not exist! There is something wrong with the installation of Samba on this system. Please re-install Samba. I can't continue!!! invoke-rc.d: initscript samba, action stop failed. this problem also was holding back other package upgrades since apt-get errors out; i resolved that problem by removing and reinstalling the samba package. now everything seems normal, except dpkg-reconfigure samba and this: satan# /etc/init.d/samba stop The file /etc/samba/debian_config does not exist! There is something wrong with the installation of Samba on this system. Please re-install Samba. I can't continue!!! samba works fine, so i'm not worried. but i'd like to resolve these problems. can someone send me the contents of this file? thanks, pete ps- is there a way to download bug reports so i can grep through them? reportbug is great, but once you get more than, say, 15 bugs for a package, it gets very tedious going through them all. -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Are those values in kilobytes?
double click your internet explorer icon and load this webpage: http://www.lugod.org/documents/faq/lugod-faq.html#AEN206 On Thu 02 Oct 03, 3:35 PM, Stephen Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Please take me off your email list. Thank you. Michael J Wenk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:37:51PM -0800, Walther The Writer wrote: And if so, probably stupid question, but what are they in MB? Also, what size of one cylinder when using fdisk? Any comments are appreciated. Since the df question has been answered, I'll take a stab at the fdisk question. The answer is pretty much in fdisk. Take a look at: Disk /dev/hda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes The last line is what you want. It says that a cylinder is 8225280 bytes. To find KB, divide that by 1024. You get 8032.5 KB. To find MB, divide the KB # by 1024. You get 7.84 MB. You can divide the bytes by a million to find the approx # of MB, but since a MB is not a million, but 1024*1024 you will not be accurate, but sometimes close is good e nough. Mike ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] one of the most pernicious spams i've ever seen.
On Thu 25 Sep 03, 12:09 PM, Donald Childs [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Has this been submitted to Citibank or the it's been reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] i've been toying around with reporting it to FBI since i'm fairly sure this WILL catch people, and it's not a silly pyramid scheme (remember those?) or nigerian scam (even those are starting to fade away). i just need to look into who at the FBI gets this sort of stuff. Sacramento Valley Hi-Tech Crimes Task Force ( http://www.sachitechcops.org/ )? wow. awesome. i wouldn't mind working for a group like that. it sounds interesting. but would they care? pisem.net is in russia and we're now living in new jersey... :) pete -Donald -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] bogofilter newbie
hi all, ok, i just apt-got bogofilter. pretty shocking how little documentation came with the package. googling turned up a bogofilter FAQ which seems pretty good. so now i have 4 methods to start a database; method 1 (full training) seems like the easiest. so i separated my mail between good mail and spam. i plan on doing bogofilter -s spam.mbox bogofilter -n nonspam.mbox i'm still a bit unsure what to do after this initial training. the FAQ mentions that there are two things i can do: 1. update bogofilter's wordlists with every incoming message, using the -u option. if i understand it, -u will first classify the spam, then update bogofilter's wordlist. that seems like asking for trouble. if you filter to /dev/null based on bogofilter's output, how do you correct mistakes? and it seems like mistakes here will cause more mistakes in the future. i assume you do this with: :0fw | bogofilter -f -p -u -l -e -v also, shouldn't there be a c in the procmail colon line? how does mail get past this recipe? isn't it considered delivered when an email matches a recipe unless you use :0c? 2. train on error only. this seems better to me. which training method do people use? if anybody wants to write a little about how they go about using bogofilter on a day by day basis, i'd appreciate some guidance. the number of options available seem pretty staggering. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] bogofilter newbie
On Tue 23 Sep 03, 10:22 AM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --On Tuesday, September 23, 2003 07:26:08 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. update bogofilter's wordlists with every incoming message, using the -u option. if i understand it, -u will first classify the spam, then update bogofilter's wordlist. that seems like asking for trouble. if you filter to /dev/null based on bogofilter's output, how do you correct mistakes? and it seems like mistakes here will cause more mistakes in the future. i assume you do this with: :0fw | bogofilter -f -p -u -l -e -v also, shouldn't there be a c in the procmail colon line? how does mail get past this recipe? isn't it considered delivered when an email matches a recipe unless you use :0c? A procmail recipe tagged with f is a filtering recipe. Procmail pipes the message through the specified program, then continues on using the filtered version of the message. It's not a delivering recipe, so c isn't needed. aha, thanks! i guess i didn't quite understand what cosider the pipe as a filter meant in man procmailrc, but you made it very clear indeed. thanks! Incoming mail is piped through this set of rules: :0 fw | /usr/bin/bogofilter -u -2 -p -e fwiw, i just read a few hours ago that -u was bad to use. see the bottom of page http://www.bgl.nu/bogofilter/tuning.html that's one of the things i'm not so fond about bogofilter. so many options. so many ways of doing things. it's a headache. :( It's a good idea to collect your spam rather than deleting it. You might want to delete your wordlist one day and build a new one; you'll need a collection of current spam to do that. More important, any time bogofilter makes a mistake you need to correct it, whether it was a false positive or false negative. I can't remember the last time I found non-spam in my spam folder, but it does happen from time to time. yeah. that was the reason why the guy says -u is bad. he makes the claim that mistakes snowball with -u. he seemed pretty adamant about it, so for now i'm doing it manually from mutt: macro pager S pipe-entrybogofilter -s macro index S pipe-entrybogofilter -s macro pager N pipe-entrybogofilter -n macro index N pipe-entrybogofilter -n i still need to feed bogofilter the email, just so i can look at how the spamicity levels are doing. i just won't be auto-feeding bogo's word list based on the spamicity; i think my rule will look something like: :0 fw | /usr/bin/bogofilter -p -e but i'm still in the middle of reading docs and stratagies. i've read that it might be better not to feed other peoples' wordlists into your own worldlist. the idea behind it is that bogofilter should be auto-correcting, and identify spam based on the type of spam you're currently receiving. but i've also read the opposite too, that it IS good to share wordlists and spam. trying to sort through all this info... thanks for the email ken! bogofilter is a tremendous topic... pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Formating problem
the zeroth order approximation to why is that linux can read floppies formatted under windows, but windows can't read floppies formatted under linux. the first order approximation involves filesystem types. pete On Mon 22 Sep 03, 4:43 PM, Mark K. Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Format it under Windows, THEN copy a file to it from Linux, then transfer the disk back to Windows. -Mark On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Walther The Writer wrote: Hi all, Just copied a text file from my Linux to the floppy. After trying to open the file on my Windows 2000 machine it says that floppy isn't formatted. Previously, I have copied a couple of files in windows and I had no problem to see them in Linux. Any suggestions? Walther. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- Mark K. Kim http://www.cbreak.org/ PGP key available on the website PGP key fingerprint: 7324 BACA 53AD E504 A76E 5167 6822 94F0 F298 5DCE ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
On Sun 21 Sep 03, 1:57 AM, Ken Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 2003.09.20 22:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat 20 Sep 03, 9:20 PM, Ken Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [Snip older quotings] Umm, please consider the golden rule when sending reject messages. Do not unto others as you would not want done unto you. This can go two ways though because you might not want your legit messages silently dropped. You be the judge. umm, there must be some kind of confusion here. these messages aren't silently dropped. they're rejected. there's a big difference... that's why they're called reject messages.:-) pete I'll clarify. Do not unto others as you would not want done unto you, There are two situations I specifically had in mind here. I only wrote one out and it was kind of confusing, so I appologize for that. (a) Supposing a Klez-like virus got dropped by this filter: you would send out a rejection message to the wrong sender - and I know you've all been trying to rig your mailers to ignore these rejection messages (Bill Kendrick mentioned wanting to do this earlier in the thread). Hence, do not unto others as you would not want done unto you. ken, stop. you're confused. you should google/RTFM for the definitions of email and reject message. they're not the same thing. I thought (a) was fairly obvious, but I guess not. there's very little in this universe that's obvious. if anything is obvious to you, you're not thinking about it in great enough detail. i just made that up. pretty cool, eh? (b) Supposing you decided to spare others from being falsely accused of sending viruses. You would decide then to silently drop all incoming exe attachments. Supposing one of your messages to someone else were to match the pattern. I assume because you all use Linux that that message would have some useful content in it, not spam and not (heaven forbid) a virus. You would not want that message silently dropped because it has useful information in it. Hence, you need to consider in this case also: do not unto others as you would not want done unto you. I think silently dropping .exe messages is probably a better solution, because false positives for .exe messages are going to be extremely rare (especially since you use Linux), but sending reject messages to innocent parties will happen fairly frequently. (Unless I'm misunderstanding how our mail system sends reject messages) BINGO! we have a winner! here, i have an idea, ken. look at this: [1] [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet mailin-04.mx.aol.com 25 Trying 152.163.224.122... Connected to zd.mx.aol.com. Escape character is '^]'. 554- (RTR:BB) The IP address you are using to connect to AOL is a 554- dynamic (residential) IP address. AOL will not accept future 554- e-mail transactions from this IP address until your ISP removes 554- this IP address from its list of dynamic (residential) IP 554- addresses. For additional information, please visit 554- http://postmaster.info.aol.com. Connection closed by foreign host. compare it with this: [2] [EMAIL PROTECTED] telnet mailin-04.mx.aol.com 25 Trying 152.163.224.122... Connected to zd.mx.aol.com. Escape character is '^]'. helo dude Hello, dude. Pleased to meet you. You can type help for help. mail from: Ken Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] data From: General Abad Allaboobaa (ret) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The friendly public Subject: BUSINESS PROPOSAL You've heard it all before. Just fork over your money. mmkay? . [2] constitutes an email. spam, in fact. but look what happened. AOL didn't give me chance to send the email. it closed the doors ([1]) before i even got the chance. one of these sessions constitutes email. the other doesn't. before replying to this email, please do some googling. once you get the facts down straight, i'd be happy to continue this thread. pete ps- something occured to me. you're prolly confusing the terms bounce message and reject message. -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
hi dylan,
the short answer (as in i want these virus messages to stop RIGHT
NOW!) would be to use the procmail filter i posted.
now, about a better solution. the postfix way of doing it is all over
the net. exim seems a bit tougher. that said, i find it excruciatingly
hard to believe that a popular MTA like exim would have such a gaping
hole in functionality.
i found this:
http://www.concretecow.com/denny/content/?article=2
but have not gotten it to work yet (there is a bit of a confusion what
the name of this computer is, for reasons that are longer than they
are interesting. that could be messing things up).
hope that helps. if you figure this out one way or the other, i'd
appreciate it if you could post your results!
pete
On Sun 21 Sep 03, 11:29 AM, dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
have been lurking for the past few days paying close attention to this
thread however, has anyone figured out how to reject these kind of
messages at the door with EXIM ?
i am using a combination of exim and courier (Maildir delivery), and was
wondering if it would be possible to drop these messages with my
configuration.
also, is there any good way to strip HTML from email messages with exim?
right now, i am running all messages through the a hack of a filter written
in AWK. it removes a lot of the HTML, however, i can't use something like:
awk '
{gsub(//?[^]*/,\n)}
{print}
'
...because it mangles some important parts of the actualy messages, such as
the TO and FROM headers
any ideas for an EXIM user who is tired of these stupid email viruses
wasting my time.
thanks in advance,
dylan
on 03.9.20 4:44 PM, Rod Roark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] was reported to have
writen:
On Saturday 20 September 2003 04:24 pm, Rod Roark wrote:
On Saturday 20 September 2003 02:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
roland smith, whom i met while googling shared a *wonderful* procmail
recipe that catches windows viruses.
[snip]
Cool. I wonder if there's an easy way to get Postfix to
notice these attachments at the front door, and drop the
connection before all 150K or whatever have been received.
Bwahahahaha! I found it! From this Slashdot posting:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=79337cid=7013891
and your email, I deduced to create a file
/etc/postfix/rods_body_checks containing the following:
/^TVqQAAME\/\/8AALg/ REJECT Emails containing Microsoft executables
are prohibited from this server.
and to add this line to my Postfix configuration file
(main.cf):
body_checks=pcre:/etc/postfix/rods_body_checks
It seems to work. :-)
-- Rod
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/
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Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
hi dylan, On Sun 21 Sep 03, 12:03 PM, dylan [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: thanks pete, i will take a look... so far i have been able to dig up the following sites: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-3.20/doc/html/filter_toc.html http://colondot.net/mbm/mailfilter.shtml heh. i'm at the exim.org site right now, going over their mailing list archives. i'm seeing lots of relevent stuff. the question is whether i can force exim to drop a connection after it sees a 13 byte string, rather than waiting for the whole multiple kilobyte message to be transfered... i will have to spend some time reading these before i am able to make sense of them... i tried a simple filter of my own design... however, all of my mail was getting stuck on the server... and had to use 'exim -qff -v' to get it back! dylan whoever gets the answer first posts it. kay? :-) pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Gentoo anyone?
hi ed, can you format your emails at 80 columns? please see 1c at: http://www.lugod.org/mailinglists/index.php#rules On Sat 20 Sep 03, 2:05 PM, Edward Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've decided to plunge into Linux head first with Gentoo. I've survived the first couple of weeks and pondered the mysteries of emerge and make.conf, and suffered through following instructions and using etc-update (ouch - that was painful). But, this Gentoo is a great idea. Clearly fast links and fast systems open all kinds of new options. http://www.gentoo.org I'm curious, has anyone else in the LUGOD community been working with Gentoo? yeah, we have a few people who use gentoo and a bunch of people who've played with it. Would you mind if a noob to Gentoo and Linux like me shot you some questions from time to time? prolly not a great idea. by posting questions publically, your question is not only being answered for you, but for everyone else who has the same question and uses google or our list archives to research the answer. when a question gets answered once in public, it's answered for the rest of eternity. if a question gets answered in private, nobody gets to benefit from it except for one person. so because of that, most of us like to keep most questions public. thanks! pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
On Sat 20 Sep 03, 5:44 PM, Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Saturday 20 September 2003 04:24 pm, Rod Roark wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 02:56 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: roland smith, whom i met while googling shared a *wonderful* procmail recipe that catches windows viruses. [snip] Cool. I wonder if there's an easy way to get Postfix to notice these attachments at the front door, and drop the connection before all 150K or whatever have been received. Bwahahahaha! I found it! From this Slashdot posting: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=79337cid=7013891 and your email, I deduced to create a file /etc/postfix/rods_body_checks containing the following: /^TVqQAAME\/\/8AALg/ REJECT Emails containing Microsoft executables are prohibited from this server. and to add this line to my Postfix configuration file (main.cf): body_checks=pcre:/etc/postfix/rods_body_checks It seems to work. :-) -- Rod http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ holy smokes, rod. nice sleuthing. guess i'll start googling for exim (unless somebody knows how to do it off the top of their head). isn't ironic? the person who posted that comment got a score of 4. somebody's pretty clueless at slashdot... pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
On Sat 20 Sep 03, 6:15 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --On Saturday, September 20, 2003 04:24:56 PM -0700 Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. I wonder if there's an easy way to get Postfix to notice these attachments at the front door, and drop the connection before all 150K or whatever have been received. Well, if the remote end sees the connection drop in mid-session, it'll typically save the message and try to deliver it again later. So this feature wouldn't be all that useful. -- Ken Herron why not? let them huff. let them puff. and after 3 days, they'll give up on the delivery. pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
On Sat 20 Sep 03, 6:22 PM, Gabriel Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:15:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat 20 Sep 03, 6:15 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --On Saturday, September 20, 2003 04:24:56 PM -0700 Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. I wonder if there's an easy way to get Postfix to notice these attachments at the front door, and drop the connection before all 150K or whatever have been received. Well, if the remote end sees the connection drop in mid-session, it'll typically save the message and try to deliver it again later. So this feature wouldn't be all that useful. -- Ken Herron why not? let them huff. let them puff. and after 3 days, they'll give up on the delivery. The point being that 3 days of huffing and puffing might end up costing you more bandwidth than if you just swallow the message :) -Gabe but once the string is noticed, the connection is dropped. compare the string size of: 4fug4AtAnNIbg with the size of this: 28 Sep 19 MS Corporation (2182) Latest Internet Critical Upgrade which one do you think is bigger? the real question is, by how many orders of magnitude? ;-) no, i don't think so. anyway you slice it, short of a full blown DOS attack, i think a 13 byte string can be transered many times before it becomes beneficial to eat a latest internet critical upgrade. not to mention the fact that in a best case scenario, the system admin of the remote system will get an email about a frozen message being given up on. he'll go investigate and notice ohmigosh, i have a virus!. then he'll be so disgusted with the whole virus thing, he'll go out and install linux on all the companies servers. the money they saved go into profit statements, which raise the value of their stock. people notice the stock of the company is starting to rise and they want a piece of the action. the extra cash flow leads to higher production and more income. the business starts to flourish and the hire unix system admins and programmers by the droves. in fact, the hire you. they pay you $250,000 per year to do opengl renditions of their product. all because you drop the connection after a 13 byte string gets transfered. you'd be NUTS not to do it... pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] the answer to all my virus problems
On Sat 20 Sep 03, 9:20 PM, Ken Bloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On 2003.09.20 18:39, Rod Roark wrote: On Saturday 20 September 2003 06:22 pm, Gabriel Rosa wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2003 at 06:15:32PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat 20 Sep 03, 6:15 PM, Ken Herron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: --On Saturday, September 20, 2003 04:24:56 PM -0700 Rod Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool. I wonder if there's an easy way to get Postfix to notice these attachments at the front door, and drop the connection before all 150K or whatever have been received. Well, if the remote end sees the connection drop in mid- session, it'll typically save the message and try to deliver it again later. So this feature wouldn't be all that useful. -- Ken Herron why not? let them huff. let them puff. and after 3 days, they'll give up on the delivery. The point being that 3 days of huffing and puffing might end up costing you more bandwidth than if you just swallow the message :) Well, you get the satisfaction of wasting the sender's bandwidth too. And for me at least, as a DSL user, incoming bandwidth is cheaper than outgoing. As for the Postfix solution that I actually implemented, it's a bit unclear if the entire message is received, but I suspect it is. The sender definitely gets closed out with a rejection message, not just a dropped connection. At least the offending mail is not saved to disk and does not require another pass from procmail or SpamAssassin or whatever. Umm, please consider the golden rule when sending reject messages. Do not unto others as you would not want done unto you. This can go two ways though because you might not want your legit messages silently dropped. You be the judge. umm, there must be some kind of confusion here. these messages aren't silently dropped. they're rejected. there's a big difference... that's why they're called reject messages.:-) pete -- GPG Instructions: http://www.dirac.org/linux/gpg GPG Fingerprint: B9F1 6CF3 47C4 7CD8 D33E 70A9 A3B9 1945 67EA 951D ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Odd ncftp bug
On Tue 16 Sep 03, 11:21 AM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm noticing an apparent bug in NcFTP (3.1.3; Mar 27, 2002) This works: $ ftp ftp.server.com Name: USERNAME 331 User USERNAME okay, need password. Password: PASSWORD 230 Logged in And this works: $ ncftp ftp://USERNAME:@ftp.server.com Logging in... Password requested by ftp.server.com for user USERNAME. User USERNASME okay, need password. Password: PASSWORD Logged in. However, in SOME cases, the following does NOT work: $ ncftp ftp://USERNAME:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Logging in... Could not open host ftp.server.com: username and/or password was not accepted Whatintheheck!? This works for most of the other accounts I've tried (I'm writing a script to pull stuff off of various FTP accounts, en masse; specifically, my variation is: ncftpget -R ftp://USER:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) The shell is GNU bash 2.05b.0(1) The FTP server is NcFTPd (can't tell which version). Many of the passwords in question include ?, !, = and/or + characters. However, this doesn't seem to be an issue, since I don't see any pattern where these characters DON'T work, versus when they DO. I'm quoting them in the shell, too: ncftpget -R ftp://USER:PASSWORD@ftp.server.com *boggle* Besides changing the passwords to something that ncftpget CAN send properly, is there anything else I can look into!? sure. this is off the top of my head: 1. http://bugs.debian.org 2. http://www.ncftp.com 3. http://google.com 4. http://www.google.com/advanced_group_search?hl=en 5. ncftp debug1 ncftp open (whatever) 6. strace -o LOG ncftpget -R ftp://USER:PASSWORD@ftp.server.com 7. ltrace -o LOG ncftpget -R ftp://USER:PASSWORD@ftp.server.com and if you can't resolve it in a few days, use reportbug. :) pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Odd ncftp bug
On Tue 16 Sep 03, 11:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: 6. strace -o LOG ncftpget -R ftp://USER:PASSWORD@ftp.server.com 7. ltrace -o LOG ncftpget -R ftp://USER:PASSWORD@ftp.server.com throw in a -s99 for good measure and a -ff if you need to. ;) pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] backing up DVDs (was Re: [vox] fair use / DVD questions)
On Tue 16 Sep 03, 3:15 PM, Jan W [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I have done a bit of burning of DVD+R and +RW media for work here. I use cdrecord-prodvd and xcdroast for the GUI. I have successfully recorded 4.7 GB of data on +R media, but I have no experience with -R media whatsoever. We use Plextor 504A. i've had my eye on the 708-UF. just need to get myself a USB 2.0 motherboard (if they exist yet) or a card. and check USB 2.0 status in the linux kernel. btw, what is DVD-RAM format? seems to be distinct from DVD+/-R/RW. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] zones and DNS
hi all, can someone tell me the difference between a zone and domain? i've written very basic A, MX and CNAME records a long time ago, so i'm still probably a newbie on the subject of DNS. thanks! pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] zones and DNS
On Tue 02 Sep 03, 7:40 AM, ME [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: hi all, can someone tell me the difference between a zone and domain? i've written very basic A, MX and CNAME records a long time ago, so i'm still probably a newbie on the subject of DNS. A Zone is a system for organizating information about a domain and the services of a domain. A Zone record includes information about how a domain should be updated, what copy of the zone record is most up-to-date, and specifics on services for a domain (NS, MX, CNAME, A(-name)) and in special cases, specify priority for services (MX) when multiple servers exist. I look at it like this: Zone records contain Domain Name information. Domain Name information does not contain Zone records. Zone records need not contain Domain Name information. (localhost, root servers hints file, inaddr-arpa, etc.) Depending upon how you view a domain, the entire information of a domain may actually exist across more than one zone record. (Consider the cases for rDNS and the inaddr-arpa.) Of course, some people do not view this information as part of the domain, and some others don't even provide reverse lookup services for their domains. A really good example of how a Zone File may not be considered part of a Domain, is when ISP provide Reverse Delegation for rDNS, or provide all DNS (forward and reverse) for a classed network. They may have several zone files for each domain, but may only have 1 zone file for rDNS. Another example that is better, is the case with the hints file that contains the list of root servers. Of course, if you are talking NT Domains, then that is another story. ;-) -ME let me see if i understand you correctly by rephrasing what you said. for the case of a home user who runs a domain out of his living room that only offers basic services like www, smtp and ftp, a zone record is an ecapsulation of all the information needed for the outside world to access his computer sitting in the living room. namely, the A, MX and CNAME records. here domain and zone records coincide. but for the more general case, a domain like ibm.com may be broken down into different zones. perhaps software.ibm.com and hardware.ibm.com. a zone record points to the different domain records, and it's these domain records that contain the A, MX and CNAME records. is this more or less accurate? thanks! pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] USB Conflict Woes
On Mon 01 Sep 03, 1:31 PM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 12:09:58PM -0700, Richard S. Crawford wrote: ...Or, at least, I *think* it's some sort of USB conflict. Hrm... I see you're using usb-uhci. I recall there's another module, 'usb-ohci', if I remember correctly. It's been a LONG time since I looked into this kind of stuff, but I vaguely remember (maybe from when I was getting my Zaurus cradle set up... which I never use, BTW :) ) that in some cases you wanted the _other_ USB driver module. *shrug* Hopefully I'm not pointing you in a totally wrong direction, but it might be worth spending 5 mins to Google (ohci vs uhci) :^) Good luck, and sorry if I've just wasted your time. it takes longer to write than to read. ;) you're talking about host architectures. they depend on your motherboard (or PCI card if you're using USB through PCI), not device. USB devices can use both OHCI and UHCI. otherwise you'd see two versions of every USB device. i don't believe a USB host controller will be registered by the wrong driver. from his original post, i saw UHCI sucessfully registered. so this isn't his problem. fwiw, OHCI is used by: * most non x86 systems * some non x86 systems that don't use use Intel chipsets you can read the kenrel docs to learn exactly what's used by UHCI and OHCI, but like i said, the hub got registered, so i doubt this is the problem. pete ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] USB Conflict Woes
On Mon 01 Sep 03, 1:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: On Mon 01 Sep 03, 1:31 PM, Bill Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :^) Good luck, and sorry if I've just wasted your time. it takes longer to write than to read. ;) you're talking about host architectures. they depend on your motherboard (or PCI card if you're using USB through PCI), not device. USB devices can use both OHCI and UHCI. otherwise you'd see two versions of every USB device. i don't believe a USB host controller will be registered by the wrong driver. from his original post, i saw UHCI sucessfully registered. so this isn't his problem. please run a mental diff: fwiw, OHCI is used by: * most non x86 systems -* some non x86 systems that don't use use Intel chipsets +* some x86 systems that don't use use Intel chipsets ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] adobe acrobat
You might be able to use pdf2ps (part of ghostscript) followed by psresize (part of psutils). All the tools in psutils are versatile, but I usually have to experiment a bit to get what I want. shawn. On Thursday 21 August 2003 01:06 pm, Jonathan Stickel wrote: R. Douglas Barbieri wrote (on vox): I'd love to get rid of Windows entirely from my home, and will, the day Adobe Premiere finally works correctly under Linux/Wine. Actually, one of the few apps I still must use windows for is Adobe Acrobat. Does anyone know if this works with Linux/Wine? My specific need is cropping an entire PDF (i.e. removing excess margins). Does anyone know if there is a ghostscript (command line or app) to do this as an alternative to Acrobat? Jonathan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Laptop Console Display Question
Also try http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-dell-laptops/ which is a community devoted to running Linux on Dell laptops. The archives and the FAQ are very useful. On Thursday 24 July 2003 05:55 am, Rod Roark wrote: See http://www.linux-on-laptops.com/dell.html. Cheers, ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Measure network usage?
On Saturday 28 June 2003 01:50 am, Samuel Merritt wrote: Shawn P. Neugebauer said: I have a few Linux boxes that have uptimes of days to months. I need to try to estimate bandwidth usage for a long-ish period of time (e.g., days or weeks) in order to characterize how much bandwidth I use (to decide on level-of-service issues for a new ISP---I have to move :( ) . Is there a way to tell the amount (in bytes) of traffic sent and received by a running box? Is there a simple *non-intrusive* tool that might add a little value to whatever is built-in? I'm aware of MRTG, and Orca, but these are overkill for this type of problem. Take a look at the output of /sbin/ifconfig. It should have a line like RX bytes:2328595615 (2.1 GiB) TX bytes:3104087047 (2.8 GiB) or so. Have a script dump the byte counts to a text file once an hour, and then you can do a little simple analysis with a hand-rolled tool. That was the first place I checked, but slapping hand on forehead I saw RX/TX packets and missed the byte count. I just man'd ifconfig, noticed it used /proc/net/dev, saw byte counts in *there* and started wondering why they didn't show up with ifconfig... Now, if I can extract some info from my router, I might have some idea how much data exits and arrives at my network... Thanks. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How to Break and Join Threads in mutt
On Friday 20 June 2003 10:50 pm, Mike Simons wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 10:31:10PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: many of use threaded mail readers, and starting a new thread by replying to an existing thread really screws up our threading. I agree it is annoying, there are also people who reply to a thread by starting a new mail (which will not have the correct references, often has a different subject, and has no relevant quotes). [snip] I agree---both of these things are annoying. I think the latter is acceptable if it is *infrequent*. It may be that one wants to reply to a message but one does not have access to one's normal mail system (not everyone is running SquirrelMail on their own domain...) but still wants urgently to make a point. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] gmake and nmake PLEASE ignore this thread, I'm stupid
On Monday 16 June 2003 12:56 am, Mark K. Kim wrote: Jay obvious figured it out, but for the archives: The GNU Make is often called `gmake`, even though the binary is called `make`. I sometimes symlink `make` to `gmake` if I have multiple versions of make installed. I think Debian doesn't symlink `make` to `gmake`, but as I recall I think Redhat and Mandrake have the symlink by default. [snip] Indeed, RH gives a symlink 'gmake' to the make binary. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Redhat 8.0 shutdown does not power off.
On Thursday 05 June 2003 09:43 am, Mike Simons wrote: On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 09:14:13AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i haven't been following this thread for a few days, but are we sure it's not a hardware issue? We know that he is still using a stock Redhat kernel, and changes Jim did were through modules in this kernel. The shutdown scripts on his machine are locking up when it uses killall5 to send TERM to all processes. What happens after the TERM is sent vary between hanging and rebooting... He says the machine stable in other situations, just lately the shutdown system is acting weird. ... In following this thread from a distance, I'm surprised, Mike, you didn't have him disable NFS mounts/exports. Might be good to do that, stay out of X, and try several shutdowns. Also, I'm not sure if he's ever mentioned which stock kernel he's using, but whatever it is, I think there's a new one (latest is 2.4.20-18.7). He should probably be running that. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Redhat 8.0 shutdown does not power off.
On Thursday 05 June 2003 11:35 am, Jim Angstadt wrote: --- Mike Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip After 16 lines of ...disabled for 5 minutes I did a physical power off. Then booted clean to cli. Did s-u-o 3 times with the same result each time: s-u-o, power off, black screen, reboot. lsmod reports Not tainted following a clean reboot to the command line. To answer Shawn's question, this RH 8.0 is running the 2.4.18-14 kernel. That's fairly out of date. You might try, at Mike's direction, upgrading to the latest, which is 2.4.20-18.7, just released a few days ago. There have been several stock kernels released between yours and this one; with some online research, you could look for your problem. There are many security and bug fixes, anyway. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] definition of a virtual machine
On Monday 31 March 2003 05:16 pm, Rod Roark wrote: On Monday 31 March 2003 04:59 pm, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: ... the intended audience are readers of the linux gamers' howto who want to know what things like vmware are. not people taking a course on java. :) OK how about this. I remember a placard with this on it, sitting on a demo S/370 mainframe when IBM first introduced virtual memory (we now just call it swap space): If it's there and you can see it, it's real. If it's there and you can't see it, it's invisible. If it's not there and you can see it, it's virtual. If it's not there and you can't see it, it's gone. :-) For what it's worth I think of a virtual machine as one that's emulated in software. Rod - this is awesome! Thanks for a laugh. I might now be able to explain virtual memory to a few family members... ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] NFS and user IDs
On Sunday 02 March 2003 09:20 am, Rod Roark wrote: Anyone know if there's a way to map user IDs (other than root) across NFS? I.e., user rod on the client machine has ID 1000, but on the NFS server is 500, and I'd like general access to my home directory from the client. The simplest solution is to use the same UID when you configure the 2nd machine. For a small network, it is generally not hard to change the UID's to match--but you need to find a few odds-and-ends (e.g., /var/spool/mail). There was a recent thread on vox-tech about the dual problem of changing username. It's an easy mistake, on a small network, to end up with machines having different UID's--it's not something one usually thinks about on a small network. The more general solution is to run NIS. Then you don't have a UID hard-coded on a machine, you get it from the NIS server. It's not hard to get NIS running for a small network, but there's a little bit of a learning curve. You would still need to retro-fit your filesystems to get all the UID's to match-up. The question you are asking is if the NFS server will re-map UID's for you. The answer is maybe. It does not do general re-mapping of the sort you are asking about (e.g., using rules like if a request comes from UID X treat this as UID Y--at least, I don't think so). However, you *might* be able to make use of the ability of the NFS server to re-map the anonymous uid. *maybe* I think that's opening a big can of worms--for security, maintenance, etc. I suggest doing the small amount of work to get the UID's to match up. shawn TIA, -- Rod ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] EPROM burner?
Ryan, I screwed up one of my Pentium boards by flashing the wrong .BIN file on it. To fix that I cross-flashed the BIOS on that chip using a working Pentium motherboard. I had to try a few versions of flash writers before I was successful. The following links show how to do that, in addition to the boot block method and the buy-a-UV/EEPROM method: http://24.116.115.130/Biosrecovery.htm http://www.tokenasians.com/articles/bioshotswap.html http://www.geocities.com/hackedmobo/hotswap/hshow.htm#top Good luck, Edwin At 09:53 PM 2/20/03 -0800, you wrote: Does anyone have access to an EPROM burner. Or is there one at UCD? I flashed my BIOS but the flash went bad, and now I'm linux-less. I got a 32-pin DIP. -ryan ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] tinydns behind NAT firewall?
Well, I'm finally getting around to setting up my own DNS server/cache, and I've run into a problem. Is it generally possible to run tinydns behind a (dedicated) NAT firewall (a netgear RP114)? The problem is that the name server wants to run on an interface having the published name server IP address, but, of course, it's behind a firewall masquerading as that IP address (thus, the firewall is doing translation, so DNS queries could never make it to the right interface). I've been digging through google searches, without finding anything obvious, so I thought I would ask out loud here before I dig deep. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] tinydns behind NAT firewall?
On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:37 am, Samuel Merritt wrote: On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 11:24:51AM -0800, Shawn P. Neugebauer wrote: Well, I'm finally getting around to setting up my own DNS server/cache, and I've run into a problem. Is it generally possible to run tinydns behind a (dedicated) NAT firewall (a netgear RP114)? The problem is that the name server wants to run on an interface having the published name server IP address, but, of course, it's behind a firewall masquerading as that IP address (thus, the firewall is doing translation, so DNS queries could never make it to the right interface). Any decent NAT box will have a way to forward packets to internal machines. You should be able to set up a rule that packets destined for the NAT box's external interface, port 53, type UDP, get forwarded to the DNS server. Yes, it does have such forwarding capabilities, and I use them in a variety of ways. The problem here isn't the forwarding--that's easy and works great--the problem is the forwarded packets get sent to the internal machine using the *internal* IP address--and tinydns wants to run on an interface having the *external* IP address (IP aliasing is not the answer here, at least not by itself). If this is at all possible, it has to involve some type of non-standard tinydns configuration, at least, and I'm hopeful that on the many tinydns users on the list will have a clue... :) shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Can a username be changed?
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:29 pm, Bill Kendrick wrote: Is there a way to change a user's login name under Unix? Is it safe enough to simply rename their home directory and edit their entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow? Or am I dealing with dangerous powers, and would be safe enough creating a brand new user and deleting the old one? this should not be a big deal. the numerical user id is what's important. if the UID doesn't change you won't have a problem. use vipw to change username in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. that alone would make the change--try it then ls the user's directory and you'll see the new username show up. the home directory need only change as a matter of convenience and consistency (i.e., users may expect their home directory to be /home/username). if the username is hard-coded in some configuration file someplace, you'll have to change it, too, of course, but this is unlikely. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Can a username be changed?
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:44 pm, Jeff Newmiller wrote: On Sun, 9 Feb 2003, Bill Kendrick wrote: Is there a way to change a user's login name under Unix? such a question... ;) Is it safe enough to simply rename their home directory and edit their entry in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow? Safe enough, because security is managed by UID through those files, but maybe not quite complete enough. I would also make sure to rename their mail spool file, and do a find /etc -type f | xargs grep oldusername to find places like the sudo configuration files that might reference their usernames. Other applications like mysql or samba might also maintain parallel configurations for that username. aah, yes, excellent suggestions. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] simple web-based file management/sharing system?
At last, I have a good question for vox-tech! I've been asked to put together a simple web-based file management/ sharing system. The system would be used by a small group to share PDF, PS and other types of files. We'd like any (validated) participating user to be able to add content (upload a file) along with perhaps some comments or other simple information (a single comment field would probably suffice). It's probably a good idea to allow only the uploader or editor to delete entries. One extra level of complexity would be helpful for increasing the utility of this thing: the ability to create new folders for organizing the information. The platform is linux (redhat). I realize that a motivated individual could do this quite nicely with apache, mysql, and, say, php, however, I'd like to avoid the database, and, frankly, I don't want to spend very much time on this. Also, a few minutes with google and freshmeat convinced me there are 1000 existing solutions--I'm hoping this email will solicite some good leads. So, any ideas? Opinions? Experience with something like this? A simple php-based or perl-based (or something else?) solution would be nice. A straightforward groupware-type web application would be useful too, but they tend to include lots of stuff that's not needed (and won't be needed) here. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] My Thought: Building a Server
On Thursday 30 January 2003 09:30 pm, Richard Crawford wrote: My wife and I have been planning on getting a server of our own for quite awhile now. And while browsing through Fry's recently, I stumbled across a book on building your own PC. [snip] that I've carefully researched to make sure they're all willing to play with each other and with Linux is probably going to be more stable than anything I buy from Dell or Gateway or Wal-Mart. One comment on this: I've bought many machines from Dell, destined to run linux, and each time I've been able to get sufficient information *before* the order to know with high confidence linux would support all parts (or, I knew what the current problems were). Not sure if such information is available with a Wal-Mart purchase. Nor is this an endorsement for Dell. My general impression of your plan is that you'd probably learn a bit more about the hardware than you know now, and learning is always good, but is the cost of the time spent doing so worth it to you? Only you can know. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] beowulf cluster
On Friday 10 January 2003 03:41 pm, Bill Broadley wrote: On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 02:48:38PM -0800, Ryan Detert wrote: I am looking for a good howto or a really clear book on setting up a beowulf cluster. I have 3 computers and I am wondering first off if it would be easier to use NFS or having each node have a completely functional OS. Hrm, thats a pretty large subject, what exactly are your goals? Resume fodder? A particular application? Parallelizing a particular code? I hear lots and lots of talk about building beowulf clusters, but I don't hear much talk about applications. Is there existing software that will distribute problems across such such clusters *automatically*? I'm thinking about high-level software, e.g., Matlab, or octave, or even a more special-purpose application. Or is the power of these clusters only harnessed when I write near-custom, MPI-based code that specifically parallelizes *my* problem? I recognize the difficulty in auto-magically parallelizing, but what *good* is such a cluster if I have to write custom code all the time? I've got 3 computers, too, Ryan, and I've always wondered what I could do to combine them into a more useful whole, especially for Matlab-like processing. shawn. I'd check out: http://www.beowulf.org I'd also recommend joining the beowulf mailing list (same site). I happen to be teaching a Beowulf Design and Parallel Programming course for the second time at the moment. In general, in the loosest terms a beowulf is basically a collection of commodity hardware (i.e. pc's or similar), running an open OS, and running some software layer for communication (I.e. MPI). So if you have 3 linux boxes just install MPICH: http://www-unix.mcs.anl.gov/mpi/mpich/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Segmentation Fault with RPM --rebuilddb
I don't believe you've said what version of RedHat you're running. Also, specifically, what version of rpm are you running? rpm -q rpm would suffice. Assuming it's RedHat 7.x, see: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=73198 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=56524 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=78782 for clues and information. You should do a few other searches in bugzilla. The gist of these bug reports is: upgrade to rpm 4.1 and try that, re-install if you used ximian or redcarpet or some other unsupported thing, or file bug report---looks like the guy that's supporting rpm is pretty quick to respond and willing to look individually at your database. shawn. On Friday 03 January 2003 04:16 pm, Richard Crawford wrote: On Fri, 2003-01-03 at 11:34, ME wrote: Since it is immediate, and we see no other items in the trace, I would expect it is not a path issue with symlinks. It is sounding more and more like a file problem. Like there is an attempt to open a file (earlier) that is assumed to allready be open (no checking) and now, as we are getting to writing to the file descriptor, it is suddenly found to not be valid, or ? I guess it could be cause by a filesystem problem at the point on disk where one of the files it uses is stored (seems unlikely) That would be odd... I have seen no other indications of any problems. The suggestion made by Charles Polisher is a good one, and puts you on what I would expect to be a good track. Try to find files used by this process of rpm --rebuilddb and move them (backup) to a different location. Then re-run the program to see if it segfaults. I removed all of the /var/lib/rpm/__db* files, and moved all of the files under /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.* directories to a backup directory. Still got a segmentation fault. I also tried moving all files in /var/lib/rpm to a backup directory, and got all sorts of interesting errors... before realizing that was the wrong thing to do and I replaced the files. ;-) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Segmentation Fault with RPM --rebuilddb
lots of good tidbits and info there. On Friday 03 January 2003 09:35 pm, Charles Polisher wrote: Also see: http://www.rpm.org/hintskinks/repairdb/ ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] KDE? Or something more insidious....?
On Sunday 08 December 2002 02:09 pm, Richard S. Crawford wrote: [df output snipped] Here is the output of free. Honestly, I don't know what I should be looking for (I know, that's a lot of points off my geek score), but 3036 under the free column looks kinda low to me. total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:255104 252068 3036 4536 9532 -/+ buffers/cache: 242000 13104 Swap: 530104 442604 87500 The 3036 isn't necessarily bad, but you're also used up 80% of your swap space! ...and finally, the first few lines produced by top. If I'm reading this right, gconfd-2 is eating up a lot of processor cycles, even though I'm using KDE and not GNOME. But that's only if I'm reading it right. 10377 rscrawfo 15 0 473M 81M16 D 0.9 32.5 1:30 gconfd-2 %CPU is 0.9, %MEM is 32.5. gconfd-2 has eaten a lot of memory. Also, the D indicates the process is in an uninterruptible sleep--if it's still that way, the process is stuck. The slowness you are experiencing is probably due to swapping. (Are you hearing lots of disk activity when you try to do anything?) gconfd is a gnome registry-like utility. So, the question is, why is it eatting up so much memory, what's it doing, and why does it keep doing it through repeated logouts, logins, etc.? I see at least one bug report in the gnome bugzilla regarding a bad memory leak in gconfd--but it fills /var/log/messages with lots of stuff. Is there any corroborating evidence in /var/log/messages, or /var/log/XFree86.0.log? Are you up-to-date with patches from RedHat? That would be step one. Have you installed a non-RedHat gnome? If so, you'll want to get it up-to-date. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] What's in RedHat 8.0
On Tuesday 01 October 2002 06:28 pm, Bill Broadley wrote: I just installed redhat-8.0 on a couple machines, most notable a rather cranky Dell Inspiron 8000. it's good to know someone else on the list has one of these. not infrequently, i've wrestled with linux/redhat on my I8K. Under redhat-7.X wireless was painful, APM didn't work, 3d didn't work, printing sucked (to an HP deskjet 990), I don't think sound worked. Hmmm...having been through the wireless thing several times recently, I think the pain depends on the version. RH7.3 in particular is, I think, better than the others--not too hard, but far from plug-and-play. Also, sound should have worked out of the box, no problem. 3D also should have worked in RH7.3, but it causes a hang if you resume from a suspend; I usually have it disabled. :( * 2d required some tweaking of the config file really? it's worked out-of-the-box with 7.X as long as I can remember. * 3d just worked... have you tried to suspend? and resume? wow, the just worked list is cool. and this is only a X.0 release, so minor things will get fixed (like the need to tweak to get 2D going). shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] wireless lan?
On Wednesday 17 July 2002 10:26 pm, ME wrote: Check into the latest pcmcia-cs tree http://sourceforge.net/projects/pcmcia-cs/ Check into Wireless tools: http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Tools.html Just to clarify, these tools are standard in RedHat. For example, in RedHat 7.3, the packages kernel-pcmcia-cs-3.1.27-18 and wireless-tools-23-2 are installed. In fact, things were so well configured that I went to a nearby AirPort-equipped coffee shop, plugged my Orinico card in my Inspiron, and I was live on the net before I had even decided how to start poking around to get it working. Wow. That's the end-user side of things; I can't say much about base stations. Only thing that comes to mind is I think I remember reading about a Linux tool for AirPort configuration... Oh, and I remember a tutorial, somewhere on the O'Reilly site, that talked about how to build a Wireless router using a WiFi card in a PC. Always struck me as a cool little project. Yes, here are some links: http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2002/04/11/enterprise.html http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/wireless/2001/03/06/recipe.html The latter is Recipe for a Linux 802.11b Home Network. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ODE solvers in C
Do you really need the solver code in C? Or do you just need access to solver code from C? If the latter, then you could just link with Fortran ODE solver code. In fact, a good library will probably include instructions on how to link Fortran code w/C code. I've done this in the past; you should be able to find some info on the net. If you really really want C, I suggest digging through http://gams.nist.gov (the NIST guide to available mathematical software). Lots and lots and lots of code. shawn. On Tuesday 09 July 2002 06:28 pm, Matt Holland wrote: Anyone know of a good free library of ODE solvers in C? I seem to be able to find plenty of stuff in Fortran, but not in C. Thanks, Matt ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Question about listing loaded modules by process...
On Thursday 13 June 2002 08:08 am, ME wrote: In cases where there is possibility of a root via a rootkit and an LKM [snip] and LKM == Linux Kernel module? shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] tar question
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:56 am, you wrote: I think what you need is tar --delete --file test.tar b (i.e. put the list of files to delete at the end of the command line) yes. alternately, tar f test.tar --delete b fyi: i often use tar cvf tarfile.tar ./somedirectory to create, verbosely, a tar file containing all the stuff in somedirectory, rather than using redirection to create the file. add a z (i.e., cvfz) to compress it. note: b must *exactly* match the file you wish to remove. this can often cause problems and confusion. for example, if i create a tar file with: tar cvf tarfile.tar ./somedirectory then if i want to remove the file somedirectory/b from the archive, i must use: tar f tarfile.tar --delete ./somedirectory/b in other words, whatever tar displays (e.g., ./b) is what you must specify. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] quick, stupid bash question
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 11:29 am, you wrote: begin nbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:11:19AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: this redirects stderr to stdout and pipes the whole thing to grep: strace lsof 21 | grep System Try something like: strace lsof 21 1 /dev/null | grep ok, haven't tried this, but this looks to me like: put stderr into stdout redirect stdout (and therefore stderr) into /dev/null pipe stdout (which should be null) to grep. yet it works. where is my thinking going wrong? here's my reading of the man page. redirects are processed L-R. 21 *duplicates* the stdout file descriptor and sends stderr there. then stdout (the original) is redirected to /dev/null. so this is what you needed. reversing the order sends stdout to /dev/null, *then* duplicates the stdout file descriptor and sends stderr there, so it too ends up in /dev/null. not what you wanted. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] quick, stupid bash question
On Wednesday 29 May 2002 12:18 pm, you wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:29:29AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: begin nbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] strace lsof 21 1 /dev/null | grep ok, haven't tried this, but this looks to me like: put stderr into stdout redirect stdout (and therefore stderr) into /dev/null pipe stdout (which should be null) to grep. The order of operation of file operators is right to left. [snip] The order of redirects is left to right. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Partition resizing
On Thursday 16 May 2002 10:57 pm, you wrote:
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On Thursday 16 May 2002 10:32 pm, Matt Roper wrote:
You might also want to look at GNU Parted
(http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/). I've only used it once, but I
was quite impressed by it. It also supports lots of different
filesystems, not just ext2/3 like resize2fs.
While we're on the subject of partitions
My new '/' partition was mistakenly created as ext2 instead of ext3,
what's the easiest way to convert it?
it's no big deal at all.
simply boot up with a rescue disk and type:
tune2fs -j /dev/{h,s}drootpartition
then change /etc/fdisk and your root filesystem is now journalized.
a few things. nearly all of this is in the ext3 FAQ, e.g.
http://people.spoiled.org/jha/ext3-faq.html
first, you don't *need* to boot with a rescue disk--when
you run tune2fs (as root, of course) on a mounted filesystem,
it creates a .journal file on the partition that's visible until you
re-mount as ext3. so, probably easier to create it on an
unmounted filesystem--which you don't have to do with a
rescue disk--because it's always invisible.
second, for redhat 7.0/1, there's one more step required for the root
filesystem. i had to use mkinitrd to create a boot image that preloaded
jbd and ext3 (in that order), and modify lilo accordingly, so that root
would mount as ext3. two ways to know if root is actually mounted
as ext3: cat /proc/mounts, or look closely at the boot messages to
see specifically that root is using the journal (i missed this several
times). anyone know if this problem does not exist if one creates
the journal on an unmounted root filesystem (e.g., by using a rescue
disk)??
third, one does not need to check the filesystem so much using ext3.
tune2fs allows one to modify the check interval. for example,
tune2fs -i 30d -c 0 /dev/hdaX changes the interval between checks
to 30 days, and ignores the mount-count.
shawn.
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Convert Ext2 to Ext3 (was Re: [vox-tech] Partition resizing)
On Friday 17 May 2002 08:36 am, you wrote: [snip] second, for redhat 7.0/1, there's one more step required for the root filesystem. i had to use mkinitrd to create a boot image that preloaded jbd and ext3 (in that order), and modify lilo accordingly, so that root would mount as ext3. why do you need to do this on redhat? is that because the kernel doesn't have ext3 support? i think it's simply because ext3 support is compiled as a module. shawn. ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] create news server
when i was using leafnode, i was using calweb's nntp feed. i too recommend it. access was plenty fast enough and the technical support was good. On Tuesday 07 May 2002 08:11 am, you wrote: I have a $5 a month shell account with calweb. It includes access to the news server and one email address. It beats the price of other pay for news services. Marc --- Shawn P. Neugebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i've used the leafnode package (www.leafnode.org). it's simple and designed for your situation (small # of users at the bottom of the news hierarchy--it gets news using the same protocol, NNTP, as your news reader). there are other such simple news servers. the key issue for you if you use this approach will be getting access to a news feed with the groups you want. in the past, there were pay services for this; i'm not sure what the situation is like now. shawn. On Tuesday 07 May 2002 06:36 am, you wrote: My small little local cable provider doesn't have a news server and I was wondering how hard it would be to configure up a news server on my linux box to follow the three or four news groups I'm interested in following. Is this something I should even bother looking in to or is there an easier way to do this? ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] latex help
replace \noalign... with:
\intertext{\rule{45pt}{0pt}\hrulefill\rule{30pt}{0pt}}
where you adjust the values 45 and 30 so that the line starts
at the appropriate place on the left and right, respectively. (if you
didn't know about this trick, these are called struts: rules with
0 width--they take up space and adjust spacing but don't print
anything). as you probably know, you can get rid of the * if you want
equation numbering, and you can tag equations you do not want
numbered by adding \notag to the end of the line (before \\).
you might need to play with the vertical spacing here (e.g.,
get rid of the 5pt, insert a vertical strut on the rule line, etc.)
to achieve the look you're looking for.
FYI--you didn't define \fpar, but i don't think it matters.
i'm sure there's a more elegant way of getting want you want,
but this looks pretty good on my screen.
shawn.
On Wednesday 01 May 2002 10:40 pm, you wrote:
hey there,
i'm trying to achieve this effect in latex (i'm adding two equations
together):
a = b + f
d = e + f
---
a+d = b + e +f
here's what i have:
\begin{align*}
\left( \vec{p} \times \vec{A} \right)_k = p_i A_j - p_j A_i = -i\hbar
\fpar{A_j}{x_i} + A_j p_i - \left[ -i\hbar \fpar{A_i}{x_j} - A_i p_j
\right]\\ \left( \vec{p} \times \vec{A} \right)_k = A_i p_j - A_j p_i
\\[5pt] %
\noalign{\hrule}\\[-5pt]
%
\text{Sum} = -i\hbar \left[ \fpar{}{x_i}A_j - \fpar{}{x_j}A_i \right]
= -i\hbar \left[ \vec{\nabla}\times \vec{A} \right]_k
\end{align*}
it almost works. here's what i'm getting:
a = b + f
d = e + f
a+d = b + e +f
the hrule goes to the left margin. i've tried playing around with
parboxes to no avail.
anyone know how to do this?
pete
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Re: [vox-tech] another latex question -- unary vs binary minus sign
On Thursday 02 May 2002 12:43 pm, you wrote:
$\slashed p^{\dagger} = -\slashed p$
is being printed as if the minus sign were a binary operator. roughly
(never mind the slash):
good question. i have never quite figured out how to control binary/
unary operators. in your example, i think it does matter what \slashed
is/does. for example, $p = - \setminus p$ has the problem you
describe, and $p = -p$ does not (of course).
here's an idea that works in this example but i don't know if it's a
general solution: $p = -{\setminus p}$. this typesets the minus
sign as a unary negation operator.
i'd like to hear any other comments on typesetting binary vs. unary
operators. i seem to recall having similar problems (possible in
tables) and not ever really resolving them. the bible Math into LaTeX
has very little on this, and i don't think there are any special AMS-
package commands for dealing with such issues (except for negative
space controls).
shawn.
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