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RE: Mac to PC
Make sure the Mac's TCP/IP settings are set to ethernet, and give it an IP of say 192.168.0.1. Then set your windows box to have an IP of say 192.168.0.2. Once you've connected the two together with the crossover cable, open up the command window on the PC and type in ping 192.168.0.1 to see if the connection is there. You might want to try using FTP instead of any other file transferring protocol. (It's pretty much just another way of transferring files) Maxum's (www.maxum.de) Rumpus Pro is available as a 30-day demo, and is an FTP server that can run under the classic Mac OS (ie Mac OS 9.x.x) - and now it also runs under Mac OS X. Using an FTP client program (WSFTP_LE for the PC, or Fetch/Interarchy for the Mac), connect to the FTP server by using it's IP address. However, if you are using Mac OS X you can use it's in-built ftp server or SMB sharing. SMB basically lets you talk to Windows boxes directly from the Mac, mounting a shared PC folder as a hard drive icon on your desktop. If you are running Mac OS X let us know so we can point you towards guides to setting up FTP/SMB sharing. Cheers, Darren. -Original Message- From: Jon Davison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2002 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Mac to PC Hi there Can anyone sort out the problem of getting a G4 (400/448MB RAM), or a G4 Tiebook (550/512Mb RAM) via ethernet crossover, to talk to a Pentium 2/Windows SP? I have heard that OEDave¹ seems to be the software we need, is this the case? Or is there some other thing we need to do. We have tried using filesharing on both systems, have allocated different addresses in TCP/IP. We have done all the correct settings as we would in connecting two Macs, but this does not work. Can anyone help in this matter. I am pretty OEgreen¹ at this, so please excuse if the terminology is not as it should be. With thanks Jon/Ben
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Re: Mac to PC
John The website www.macwindows.com is a very source for Mac/Windows integration information and tips. Cheers Greg on 6/2/02 9:38 PM, Jon Davison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there Can anyone sort out the problem of getting a G4 (400/448MB RAM), or a G4 Tiebook (550/512Mb RAM) via ethernet crossover, to talk to a Pentium 2/Windows SP? I have heard that Dave¹ seems to be the software we need, is this the case? Or is there some other thing we need to do. We have tried using filesharing on both systems, have allocated different addresses in TCP/IP. We have done all the correct settings as we would in connecting two Macs, but this does not work. Can anyone help in this matter. I am pretty green¹ at this, so please excuse if the terminology is not as it should be. With thanks Jon/Ben Jon Davison Visual Consultant - Travel photography worldwide - Air-to-air photography - Graphic design book packaging - Adobe Photoshop workshops - Digital Illustration - Digital image creation - Website interface design - QuickTime Virtual Reality panoramas 40+ books photographed and/or packaged for Berlitz, Insight, AA, Fodors, Globetrotters. Travel collection represented by Lonely Planet Images Phone: + 61 8 9380 6508 Mobile: 0403 235 938 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my website at; http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Mac to PC
At 21:38 +0800 06/02/2002, Jon Davison wrote: Hi there Can anyone sort out the problem of getting a G4 (400/448MB RAM), or a G4 Tiebook (550/512Mb RAM) via ethernet crossover, to talk to a Pentium 2/Windows SP? I have heard that 'Dave' seems to be the software we need, is this the case? Or is there some other thing we need to do. We have tried using filesharing on both systems, have allocated different addresses in TCP/IP. We have done all the correct settings as we would in connecting two Macs, but this does not work. Macs and PCs do not inherently speak the same file sharing language, so you do actually need to do a bit more than just connect them via a crossover cable and set up the IP addresses. If the Mac is running Mac OS X then it should be able to access the PC's file sharing services without anything extra. It's a bit clunky at the moment, but it works. Let me know if this is the case and I'll tell you how. If the Mac is running Mac OS 9 then you'll need software such as DAVE to allow it to access files on the PC (and optionally vice versa). Or the PC could run MacLAN Connect and then it could access files on the Mac (and vice versa) but this is a bit outdated and I wouldn't recommend it. As another WAMUG reader pointed out, you could also set one computer up as an FTP server and run an FTP client on the other. Hope this helps. -- Andrew Nielsen mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Starfish Technologies Pty Ltd http://www.starfish.net.au/ ACN 076 426 714 / ABN 49 426 849 601 Tel: 0500 555 677 Consultants in Unix, Mac OS, Windows networking technologies
Macfixit: 'Outlook survey'
-- Using Microsoft Outlook or Exchange? Microsoft requests: If your organization or school uses Microsoft Exchange Server for email and calendaring, we want to know what you think about our products and services. Please take a few moments to complete the following brief survey. -- http://www.microsoft.com/mac/community/survey/ ol_exchange.asp If you're using Macs in an Exchange server environment, and you're not sure if your organisation is going to migrate to a web based email solution (within Exchange), you might want to give this survey some time. Personally, I'd love to see an OSX version of Outlook. Watching it unexpectly crash classic once a day is annoying, and I'd feel better about suggesting the office stay with the mac platform. I've had a play with Entourage X, but it doesn't meet my requirements in terms of functionality (looks nice though ;-) Cheers, Tobes. P.S. Does anyone want to hazard a guess as to how many Mac users there are in WA using outlook for exchange? Andrew?
what is it?
A riddle: I have a bronze keyboard Powerbook with a black plastic case. The identification sticker on its derriere states that it is a G4/6Gb/64Mb/video/DVD ... but I'm told by a retailer from whom I negotiating to buy some RAM that: the only G4 PowerBooks are ALL Titanium. The G3 Lombard/Wallstreet had a bronze keyboard. What have I got?
Re: what is it?
On 7/2/02 12:01 PM, Craig Chappelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A riddle: I have a bronze keyboard Powerbook with a black plastic case. The identification sticker on its derriere states that it is a G4/6Gb/64Mb/video/DVD ... but I'm told by a retailer from whom I negotiating to buy some RAM that: the only G4 PowerBooks are ALL Titanium. The G3 Lombard/Wallstreet had a bronze keyboard. What have I got? You have a confused laptop named WallStreet! :-) Regards Matthew Healey -- Matthew Healey Information Systems Western Orthopaedic Clinic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 (08) 9423 8800 Fax: +61 (08) 9381 8300 Suite 213 25 McCourt Street Subiaco 6006 Western Australia
Re: what is it?
On 7/2/02 12:01 PM, Craig Chappelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A riddle: I have a bronze keyboard Powerbook with a black plastic case. The identification sticker on its derriere states that it is a G4/6Gb/64Mb/video/DVD ... but I'm told by a retailer from whom I negotiating to buy some RAM that: the only G4 PowerBooks are ALL Titanium. The G3 Lombard/Wallstreet had a bronze keyboard. Are you sure it is not a typo on the label? It sounds like you have a Lombard G3 400 Powerbook. Seeya Rod!
Re: what is it?
A riddle: I have a bronze keyboard Powerbook with a black plastic case. The identification sticker on its derriere states that it is a G4/6Gb/64Mb/video/DVD ... but I'm told by a retailer from whom I negotiating to buy some RAM that: the only G4 PowerBooks are ALL Titanium. The G3 Lombard/Wallstreet had a bronze keyboard. What have I got? A misprinted label. http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/wa/query?type=idval=24604KCID=9329dialogId=116678900 http://kbase.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/kbase.woa/wa/query?type=idval=58328KCID=11599dialogId=116678777 Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Broadband Optimizer
Hi All, There is an interesting article at OSXfaq about a how a program Broadband Optimizer allegedly increases broadband access speed http://www.osxfaq.com/dailytips/02-2002/02-06.ws. How this supposedly works is way above my level of knowledge but could a Unix expert advise - 1. would this program work with Telstra cable? 2. does using a router make any difference? Thanks. Bob
re wotsit
Thanks to those who responded to my query about my powerbook, which is evidently a G3 masquerading as a G4 ... I say masquerading because the consensus seems to be that anything with a bronze keyboard and a black plastic case HAS to be a G3/400 -- not a G4 as stated on the label. One respondent even suggested that the wee beastie would be worth a tidy sum, as a unique exhibit in the Apple museum! If anyone would like to earn a commission convincing Apple, let me know. By the way, anyone else out there got a bronze PBook with a G4 label? Or a five-legged dog? Craig C
Airport Questions - complicated setup
I've searched through the Apple Knowledge Database looking for answers to this but the information given is cryptic at best. Current setup - Five Macs (one airport capable Quicksilver) and one PC all accessing the internet through a single Pentium 200MHz machine running Smoothwall Linux. Changes I want to make - have my WallStreet II and soon to be purchased iBook use Airport for a wireless connection to the local network and be able to access the internet through the Linux box. I know I'll have to get a different kind of card for the WallStreet II and I'll look into finding the right kind of card at the time I actually need it. The questions - I don't want to use the Airport base station for the internet connection. I want all connections to the internet to go through the Linux box for security reasons. Do I even need the base station since all I want to do is routing for the wireless connection? The Knowledge Base seems to imply that simple routing through a software access point (the Quicksilver with an airport card) is not supported. If that's true then is it possible to just hang the Airport Base Station off the Quicksilver and have it do routing for the other wireless machines? -- Man is a dog's idea of what God should be. --Holbrook Jackson
Microsoft stops new work to fix bugs
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Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
Hi, I hear that iinet is switching its Home ADSL accounts to PPPoE in several weeks. Has anyone here used this combination or similar - ADSL/PPPoE/Alcatel STH ethernet modem/Airport Base Station/OS X? I read about a whole lot of problems with Airport and PPPoE on the newsgroups, but most of them predate the current new-and-improved Airport software. Thanks, -- Lara Hopkins
Re: Airport Questions - complicated setup
The questions - I don't want to use the Airport base station for the internet connection. I want all connections to the internet to go through the Linux box for security reasons. Do I even need the base station since all I want to do is routing for the wireless connection? The Knowledge Base seems to imply that simple routing through a software access point (the Quicksilver with an airport card) is not supported. Assuming the QuickSilver is running OS 9: The software access point is basically a cut down version of IPNetRouter. Worst case you could just buy a full copy of IPNetRouter from http://www.sustworks.com/ If it's running OS X it shouldn't be a problem at all, other than some Unix routing jiggery-pokery :) If that's true then is it possible to just hang the Airport Base Station off the Quicksilver and have it do routing for the other wireless machines? You shouldn't need to buy a base station (although they do have the advantage that they rarely crash :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Airport Questions - complicated setup
on 7/2/02 2:30 PM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Assuming the QuickSilver is running OS 9: Running OSX almost all the time. Reeboot into 9 only to play a couple games. If it's running OS X it shouldn't be a problem at all, other than some Unix routing jiggery-pokery :) So I can call you for figuring out the routing tables? ;) You shouldn't need to buy a base station (although they do have the advantage that they rarely crash :) Knowledge Base Article 58597 seems to disagree about using software for bridging. I guess I was hoping it had been superseded. I've had exactly one crash with the Quicksilver since I bought it and that was because of a badly written screen saver. Even then I telnetted into it from another box and killed the offending item and everything was running great again. -- Do paediatricians play miniature golf on Wednesdays?
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
On 7/2/02 2:37 PM, Lara Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone here used this combination or similar - ADSL/PPPoE/Alcatel STH ethernet modem/Airport Base Station/OS X? Hi Lara (and others) I use the ADSL and PPPoE through a hub, and Mac OS X, and it works fine. Haven't had any real dramas. Although it is through Telstra, so you could say this is a problem in itself. :o) I have also a client whose ADSL is running through airport, PPPoE, hub, but it is under Mac OS 9, and it runs fine! I would assume it would do the same through X. (And no doubt I will get corrected if I am wrong by Matt.) :o) So I wouldn't imagine you having a problem when iinet change over! (Fingers crossed for luck?) (I would normally post at the top, but I'm being good and following the rules) :o) Kind Regards Daniel Kerr -- Daniel Kerr Sales Consultant AppleCentre Joondalup Phone: (08) 9301 5333 Unit 10/ 7 Delage Street Fax: (08) 9301 5444 Joondalup WA 6027 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***The Updated iBook. Now with a 14.1 Screen*** **http://www.apple.com.au/ibook **
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
At 14:37 7/02/02 +0800, Lara Hopkins wrote: Hi, I hear that iinet is switching its Home ADSL accounts to PPPoE in several weeks. Has anyone here used this combination or similar - ADSL/PPPoE/Alcatel STH ethernet modem/Airport Base Station/OS X? I read about a whole lot of problems with Airport and PPPoE on the newsgroups, but most of them predate the current new-and-improved Airport software. I'm confused as to what you're asking here. To connect to ADSL with the vast majority of ISP's you are required to use a PPPoE client, which is generally supplied. The Airport Base Station can run a PPPoE client, and so can all common operating systems such as OS X, OS 9, Win and Linux. Over a standard modem line you also use a client, in this case a serial PPP client. So you could be asking, does anyone prefer one PPPoE client over another? Or you could be asking, does anyone have any problems with the Alcatel STH modem? Or you could be asking, does the Airport Base Station work with iiNet? So, could you elaborate? -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Airport Questions - complicated setup
You shouldn't need to buy a base station (although they do have the advantage that they rarely crash :) Knowledge Base Article 58597 seems to disagree about using software for bridging. Ah yes, but that article is referring to * Mac OS 9 and * Apple's airport bridging software, not IPNetRouter or OS X. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Sponsor WA's Solar Car Opinions for hire [POQ] Sungroper [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: re wotsit
Craig My sister in law has a 4 legged miniature dachshund with half a tail! Reg By the way, anyone else out there got a bronze PBook with a G4 label? Or a five-legged dog? Craig C
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
On 7/2/02 3:00 PM, Onno Benschop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 14:37 7/02/02 +0800, Lara Hopkins wrote: Hi, I hear that iinet is switching its Home ADSL accounts to PPPoE in several weeks. Has anyone here used this combination or similar - ADSL/PPPoE/Alcatel STH ethernet modem/Airport Base Station/OS X? I read about a whole lot of problems with Airport and PPPoE on the newsgroups, but most of them predate the current new-and-improved Airport software. I'm confused as to what you're asking here. I think Lara is talking about the pre-1.2 Airport Base Stations that didn't have the software to run PPPoE. The reality is that these older base stations just need to have the software in them upgraded, and they will be able to run PPPoE. This is accomplished by downloading the latest Airport software from Apple and installing it on you computer. You then need to find an app called Airport Admin Utility. Use this software to connect to your older base station and it will automagically install the new software. You now have a PPPoE capable AirPort Base Station. A little tidbit. Airport Base Stations are really just an AMD 486 cpu connected to a Lucent WaveLan card with some flash ram on the side. :-) Regards Matthew Healey -- Matthew Healey Information Systems Western Orthopaedic Clinic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +61 (08) 9423 8800 Fax: +61 (08) 9381 8300 Suite 213 25 McCourt Street Subiaco 6006 Western Australia
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RE: what is it?
Of course the thing to do would be to check what it really says in the Apple system profiler from your apple menu sTEVE -Original Message- From: Craig Chappelle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2002 12:02 PM To: wamug Subject: what is it? A riddle: I have a bronze keyboard Powerbook with a black plastic case. The identification sticker on its derriere states that it is a G4/6Gb/64Mb/video/DVD ... but I'm told by a retailer from whom I negotiating to buy some RAM that: the only G4 PowerBooks are ALL Titanium. The G3 Lombard/Wallstreet had a bronze keyboard. What have I got? Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Where to buy the Airport 2 Stations and Airport cards?
Hi, I want to buy 2 Airport 2 base stations and 2 airport cards and I want to get them within 5 days or any dealer stock them in Perth. Anyone got Airport 2 base station already in WA? Thank you Mark
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
On 7/2/02 4:15 PM, Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A little tidbit. Airport Base Stations are really just an AMD 486 cpu connected to a Lucent WaveLan card with some flash ram on the side. :-) Hey I knew that!! ;o) Wow,..something I knew that Matt did, I'm impressed,..mind you on the same note,..they are impressive when you pull them apart too,..and put them back together. (And even better when it works when you put it back together.) Kind Regards Daniel Kerr -- Daniel Kerr Sales Consultant AppleCentre Joondalup Phone: (08) 9301 5333 Unit 10/ 7 Delage Street Fax: (08) 9301 5444 Joondalup WA 6027 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***Apple PowerBook G4. Now with Combo Drive!*** **http://www.apple.com.au/powerbook **
Re: Now Up-To-Date Guru's
Hi Matt, I had some problems with NUTD recently and found Luke Marslen at Pica Softwares support team very helpful. If you are interested his email address is below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] He certainly went out of his way to help me! Regards ken... On 4/2/02 1:15 PM, Matthew Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Are there any Now Up-To-Date guru's on this list? If there are, I am in need of your services. Please call me at work on the number below. By guru, I don't mean someone who knows how to set up a basic network, I need someone who can trouble-shoot a possibly corrupted data file(s), find out why events are disappearing for no apparent reason and how best keep the damn thing running. This is a paid job. Cheers. Regards Matthew Healey
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Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
Hi, I hear that iinet is switching its Home ADSL accounts to PPPoE in several weeks. Has anyone here used this combination or similar - ADSL/PPPoE/Alcatel STH ethernet modem/Airport Base Station/OS X? I read about a whole lot of problems with Airport and PPPoE on the newsgroups, but most of them predate the current new-and-improved Airport software. Thanks, That¹s exactly what I use at home. Works fine. Except when Telstra decide to play with the ADSL and stuff everything up. The new airport software works fine using. We have an iMac, PBTi, 3x iBooks and a G4 450MP hooked up at one time or another. Regards, Scott
Re: Where to buy the Airport 2 Stations and Airport cards?
Have an airport 2 base station at home. They work great. The range is not excellent though. Hi, I want to buy 2 Airport 2 base stations and 2 airport cards and I want to get them within 5 days or any dealer stock them in Perth. Anyone got Airport 2 base station already in WA? Thank you Mark Got a Question? Try searching the WAMUG list archives first at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wamug/messages/ To unsubscribe from the WAMUG e-mail list, send e-mail from this account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Iinet ADSL - PPPoE?
Lara Hopkins wrote: Onno Benschop wrote: To connect to ADSL with the vast majority of ISP's you are required to use a PPPoE client, Not with Iinet's Corporate accounts, which is what I've been using up till now. Ethernet modem, static IP. From your perspective there will be no change. I'm sitting here after several attempts to see if I can explain, keeping the information simple is complicated, so bear with me... There AFAIK are three ways to connect to ADSL: 1. Computer running PPPoE client connected via USB or Ethernet to ADSL modem. 2. Computer connected to LAN connected to Ethernet ADSL modem running raw Ethernet over ADSL. 3. Computer connected to Airport Base (running PPPoE), in turn connected via Ethernet to an ADSL modem. 1 and 3 are in fact the same, since the Airport Base is a computer. 2 is possible, though not very common, since you need more expensive equipment to set this up. Note that 1 via Ethernet or USB is the same thing, just the cable is different - if you really want to get technical it's slightly different, but I'm not getting into that here :-) The only way that anything you are doing actually changes is if you are swapping between 1 and 2. Lara Hopkins also wrote: I know the Base Station works with iinet, as I'm currently using it - but connecting with a static-IP account. The only difference will be the PPPoE, which is why I tried to focus on that in my question. (The dangers of giving too much system information? :-) S, If you are currently running option 2, (which I'm not actually convinced of given the information I have - I think you're using option 1 over Ethernet) you need to add a PPPoE client to the system in some way (and likely change the modem). In a single computer environment, you don't have an option, the PPPoE client runs on your computer (or the Airport Base). However, you may wish to introduce another computer which runs the PPPoE client if you are sharing this connection with others. I have set up several computers which do nothing but act as a PPPoE client. They provide the LAN a gateway via the ADSL network to the Internet. For completeness, they are Debian Linux 486 boxes running Roaring Penguin (use the Roaring Penguin installer from the Roaring Penguin home page, IMHO the Debian package is broken). So, does this then answer your question, or does it hopelessly confuse the issue? -- ()/)/)()..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
