Guillaume Portes (Fun with Bill!)

[Peter Hinchliffe]

You'll need Java running for this one, but it's a bit of late nite fun! 
  :-)


https://www.powerfiles.com/secure_index.html

and click on the "Fun" button at the left of the screen. Wait until the 
Java applet finishes loading, and play with Bill!


--
Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

Re: Powerbook G3 400Mhz Logic board

[Rod]

Lombard or Pismo?

Seeya

Rod!

On 17/11/04 7:36 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> I have fried my logic board. Have need of a replacement urgently. Any
> suggestions
> 
> Currently with a dealer but time is slipping by
> 
> John
> 
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Re: iPod/iTalk voice recording

[Greg Sharp]

I don't know if this applies but some info from the iPodLounge site forums
(though I don't know how accurate this is)/

It seems the italk requires a Dynamic  microphone, not a condenser mic.

Many others reported problems with external mics and there were claims
Griffin had acknowledged the problem. I went to Griffins site but could find
no mention. It may be worth contacting their support.

All the best
Greg Sharp


On 17/11/04 10:38 PM, "Edward Arrowsmith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Paul
> 
> I have the plug to go into iTalk.
> 
> The amp is for an audience. There is an output on the amp which works
> when plugged into a Windows laptop but not when plugged into
> iTalk/iPod.
> 
> I have recorded successfully so far by recording from the PA speaker
> but there is a lot of background noise. I need to get a 'clean' sound
> by recording from the amp.
> 
> I am going to try using another line from the amp to the iPod.
> 
> Thanks for your help Paul, much appreciated.
> 
> Best wishes
> edward
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/11/2004, at 5:04 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:
>> Hi Edward
>> 
>> By the way Griffin has made this I suppose they expect a mic plugged
>> directly into the iTalk.
>> This would probably only require a small adapter for the end of your
>> microphone lead so it can plug into the iTalk's external mic input -
>> 3.5mm mini-jack.
>> 
>> Is there a reason why you need to use the amp? Apart from playing it
>> *at* the iTalk that is;)
>> Is the amp for an audience?
>> If you do need to use it, there needs to be an output on the amp.
>> All you would need then is a cable with suitable ends to go between the
>> amp and the iTalk.
>> 
>> If you have tried the above to no avail then the problem may be in the
>> vicinity of the iPod/iTalk itself.
>> I take it you have recorded successfully with the built-in mic in the
>> iTalk.
>> Is there control software for the iTalk?
>> Maybe you need to select the external mic port or some such. Out of my
>> league there, I try not to think about iPods, I dont know much about
>> G5s
>> either;)
>> 
>> Also, try plugging in a known good source before you go too much
>> further.
>> Someones computer mic or similar that is working in another device.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Good luck
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> PS searching formums (fora?) can sometimes help fill gaps too
> 
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file sharing

[Edward Arrowsmith]

Thank you Rob, I now have File Sharing working. Much appreciated.

Best wishes
edward



On 17/11/2004, at 5:04 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:

I am really stupid. I can't make file sharing work. Most things
happen easily but I can't get this to happen. Here is the scenario:

15" PowerBook and 12" iBook both running 10.3.6 both have file
sharing turned on but can't put files in the drop box because
message says do not have privileges. Can't connect to the other
because message says password is incorrect.

I would greatly appreciate if someone could do a step by step in
plain English run down on how to get file sharing to work.




Open the accounts preferences on both macs.
Note exactly the user name and passwords for both macs.
If the user name of mac-1 is bill and the p/w is flower
Then from mac-2 connect to mac-1 and enter bill and flower.
You will have access to the whole hard drive as you have authenticated 
as

the owner.
Reverse the above to gain access the other way.
Most people just get confused about which password they are supposed 
to be

entering.
Hope that helps
Rob

Epson EPL 5800

[Metal Artwork Creations]

Need to print from a PowerBook 12" 1 Ghz

Have downloaded the drivers from Epson

Pls advise the cabling - have tried various parallel to USB 
configerations - no success


Any members with experience please

Tony Wilson

iPod/iTalk voice recording

[Edward Arrowsmith]

Hi Paul

I have the plug to go into iTalk.

The amp is for an audience. There is an output on the amp which works 
when plugged into a Windows laptop but not when plugged into 
iTalk/iPod.


I have recorded successfully so far by recording from the PA speaker 
but there is a lot of background noise. I need to get a 'clean' sound 
by recording from the amp.


I am going to try using another line from the amp to the iPod.

Thanks for your help Paul, much appreciated.

Best wishes
edward




On 17/11/2004, at 5:04 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:

Hi Edward

By the way Griffin has made this I suppose they expect a mic plugged
directly into the iTalk.
This would probably only require a small adapter for the end of your
microphone lead so it can plug into the iTalk's external mic input -
3.5mm mini-jack.

Is there a reason why you need to use the amp? Apart from playing it
*at* the iTalk that is;)
Is the amp for an audience?
If you do need to use it, there needs to be an output on the amp.
All you would need then is a cable with suitable ends to go between the
amp and the iTalk.

If you have tried the above to no avail then the problem may be in the
vicinity of the iPod/iTalk itself.
I take it you have recorded successfully with the built-in mic in the 
iTalk.

Is there control software for the iTalk?
Maybe you need to select the external mic port or some such. Out of my
league there, I try not to think about iPods, I dont know much about 
G5s

either;)

Also, try plugging in a known good source before you go too much 
further.

Someones computer mic or similar that is working in another device.



Good luck

Paul

PS searching formums (fora?) can sometimes help fill gaps too

Powerbook G3 400Mhz Logic board

[jlin]

I have fried my logic board. Have need of a replacement urgently. Any 
suggestions

Currently with a dealer but time is slipping by

John

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Reg Whitely]

Hey Peter

I like your quote? Is it yours?
Reg

On 17 Nov 2004, at 11:11am, P.Bull wrote:


Microsoft Plug and Play - more like Plug and Pay then Pray...

Surplus U/S old Macs

[Robert Howells]

Hi everyone,
Unless somebody can make use of them I have the following going to the 
tip

on Saturday :-

2 x LC630  Suspected faulty Power supplies
1 x 6200/75 ... hit by Power surge during a storm

Cheers

Bob

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Shay Telfer]

If anyone knows of any Package for mac that is as good as Protel 
99SE and can let me come over and have a play, I may be able to dump 
M$ windows for ever and turn my PC's into servers ;)


Kat.


I don't know about 'as good as Protel', but there was this on 
Macintouch the other day


ADsoft released the first Mac OS X version of its EAGLE Layout 
Editor, a printed circuit board design tool. The software, which 
requires the use of Apple's X11 window manager, offers up to 16 
signal layers, undo/redo for any editing command to any depth, 
electrical rule check, an integrated text editor, a full set of 
parts libraries, and much more. The EAGLE Layout Editor is available 
in Light, Standard, and Professional versions with prices ranging 
from $49 to $399. It runs on Mac OS X 10.3 with X11, Linux kernel 
2.x and up, and Windows.




I also tried out Darwine recently. Bizarre seeing the Windows RegEdit 
app running on your Mac under X11... I expect that Protel (or at 
least Access) probably won't work, sadly, but it might be worth a try.




Have fun,
Shay
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Re: Mozilla /thunderbird

[Rod]

On 17/11/04 12:53 PM, "Craig Ringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:04, Rod wrote:
> 
>> I used to use Thunderbird on the PC, and it was okay.  Whatever you do,
>> don't stuff up putting your email passwords in though, as there is no way to
>> correct them (unless that bug has been fixed in the last few months).  Nice
>> email program.
> 
> That bug has, indeed (finally) been fixed. I use Thunderbird wherever I
> can't use Evolution (ie on MacOS and Windows) and have found it solid,
> usable, and well behaved.
> 
> I'm in the process of moving most of the staff at work from Eudora to
> Thunderbird, as Eudora has ongoing reliability problems and has the
> second-worst (behind Outlook) IMAP support I've ever seen.
> 
> --
> Craig Ringer
> 

I would love to see Novell port Evolution to other platforms!  I used that
app on my Linux box, and found it a lovely piece of software.  Being a
groupware app, I guess there may be a chance we will see it ported.  Who
knows!

It would be interesting to see what WAMUGers use as their preferred email
app!

Seeya

Rod! 

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Adam Hewitt]

Hi All,

P.Bull wrote:

Hi Muggers,
More ammo in the PC versus Mac war. I have had Macs for about 20 years but
have to slum it and use a PC  a fair bit. I recently "uprgraded" to Windows
XP Professional which looks quite nice and a bit Mac like. But in order to
get the PC to use the external CD burner I had to install a new USB 2.0 card
for $30. Then the modem couldn't get a dial tone and the tech told me that
XP drivers were "terrible" so I had to install a new modem for $30. This was
after wasting hours on both problems trying to make them work and finally
admitting defeat and taking the PC box to the shop.


Although I agree with you as I am mostly a linux user I have to make two 
points here:


1) It sounds as if you are purchasing internal modems which are often 
"winmodems" meaning that the modem function is done in software rather 
than hardware. These are always bad news and you are always better off 
buying an external modem.


2) A lot of internal modem manufacturers include drivers which once 
installed will never allow your modem to work unless you format and 
reinstall the drivers (Netcomm were the worst offenders of this and they 
kept shipping the faulty drivers for about 3 years despite knowing that 
they didn't work).




So don't believe anyone who says XP is the greatest OS ever invented and
Macs are too expensive or too hard to set up. My Mac just keeps on working.


So, again, although I agree with you, you can't blame these problems on 
Windows as they are partly to do with poor choices of hardware and the 
rest of the blam belongs to the modem manufacturers.




Adam.

Re: Mozilla /thunderbird

[Craig Ringer]

On Wed, 2004-11-17 at 09:04, Rod wrote:

> I used to use Thunderbird on the PC, and it was okay.  Whatever you do,
> don't stuff up putting your email passwords in though, as there is no way to
> correct them (unless that bug has been fixed in the last few months).  Nice
> email program.

That bug has, indeed (finally) been fixed. I use Thunderbird wherever I
can't use Evolution (ie on MacOS and Windows) and have found it solid,
usable, and well behaved.

I'm in the process of moving most of the staff at work from Eudora to
Thunderbird, as Eudora has ongoing reliability problems and has the
second-worst (behind Outlook) IMAP support I've ever seen.

--
Craig Ringer

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Paul Kitchener]

P.Bull wrote:


So don't believe anyone who says XP is the greatest OS ever invented


For my money XP has built up more bad will than maybe win95 and 98 put 
together.
Updates do nothing more than patch leaks, and post-install proceedures 
take longer than the install itself!


When I tell a newbie they *need* a firewall and antvirus and spy/adware 
scrubbers and all need to be kept current, I can readily see the sheen 
go off the new-toy experience for them.


All that before they've even sent an email to their friends telling them 
they are online now :(




Cheers(of sorts)

Paul

BTW the majority of the software titles for only windoze are either 
clones of each other or not worth the fuss, these days OSX feels well 
populated by comparison.

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Kathy Quinlan]

P.Bull wrote:


Hi Muggers,
More ammo in the PC versus Mac war. I have had Macs for about 20 years but
have to slum it and use a PC  a fair bit. I recently "uprgraded" to Windows
XP Professional which looks quite nice and a bit Mac like. But in order to
get the PC to use the external CD burner I had to install a new USB 2.0 card
for $30. Then the modem couldn't get a dial tone and the tech told me that
XP drivers were "terrible" so I had to install a new modem for $30. This was
after wasting hours on both problems trying to make them work and finally
admitting defeat and taking the PC box to the shop.

So don't believe anyone who says XP is the greatest OS ever invented and
Macs are too expensive or too hard to set up. My Mac just keeps on working.

Microsoft Plug and Play - more like Plug and Pay then Pray...

-- Peter Bull
Computer Coach

Phone 9362 3138, Mobile 0427 474 013
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.compcoach.net


I have to slum it daily as I use EE software that is WINTEL ONLY :( not 
even a unix version is avaliable, it does not run well under emulation 
due to the hog of resources it is (it uses a M$ Access database to store 
each design and some of my design files now exced 2Gb :(


If anyone knows of any Package for mac that is as good as Protel 99SE 
and can let me come over and have a play, I may be able to dump M$ 
windows for ever and turn my PC's into servers ;)


Kat.


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Was: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e now Appleworks Startup & Program

[Greg Sharp]

I'm sorry for all the hassle everyone but can you please IGNORE my previous
posts.

I got back to the lady and queried her over a point raised by someone on the
lists where it was suggested doesn't she mean AppleWorks Startup  with
Appleworks program on other side not System Startup since she claims it's a
double sided disk because the System Disk is only single sided.

Sure enough she had given me the wrong info.

So what I'm looking for is actually a 5.25 inch Appleworks Program Disk on
one side and Appleworks Startup on the other. Reading back to me from her
damaged original disk it stated for 2e or 2c ProDOS etc691-007-B

I'm sorry for the inconvenience especially to those who responded on and off
list but still hope somebody can help.

Thanks
Greg Sharp

Re: PC vs Mac? No contest

[Andrew Schox]

Hi all,

On 17/11/04 11:11 AM, "P.Bull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Muggers,
> More ammo in the PC versus Mac war. I have had Macs for about 20 years but
> have to slum it and use a PC  a fair bit. I recently "uprgraded" to Windows
> XP Professional which looks quite nice and a bit Mac like. But in order to
> get the PC to use the external CD burner I had to install a new USB 2.0 card
> for $30. Then the modem couldn't get a dial tone and the tech told me that
> XP drivers were "terrible" so I had to install a new modem for $30. This was
> after wasting hours on both problems trying to make them work and finally
> admitting defeat and taking the PC box to the shop.
> 
> So don't believe anyone who says XP is the greatest OS ever invented and
> Macs are too expensive or too hard to set up. My Mac just keeps on working.

I'm a one-eyed Mac user, and have been since the 80s (although I do admit to
owning 1 PC). When I upgraded from 10.2 to 10.3, my second screen declined
to work properly (due to video card driver problems). Since then, it's been
unfixable :-(. I expect this sort of behavior from my PC, but was
disappointed when it happened on a Mac for the first time. Oh, well...

By the way, the second screen still runs happily on the rare occasions when
I boot into OS9.

Cheers,

Andrew

PC vs Mac? No contest

[P.Bull]

Hi Muggers,
More ammo in the PC versus Mac war. I have had Macs for about 20 years but
have to slum it and use a PC  a fair bit. I recently "uprgraded" to Windows
XP Professional which looks quite nice and a bit Mac like. But in order to
get the PC to use the external CD burner I had to install a new USB 2.0 card
for $30. Then the modem couldn't get a dial tone and the tech told me that
XP drivers were "terrible" so I had to install a new modem for $30. This was
after wasting hours on both problems trying to make them work and finally
admitting defeat and taking the PC box to the shop.

So don't believe anyone who says XP is the greatest OS ever invented and
Macs are too expensive or too hard to set up. My Mac just keeps on working.

Microsoft Plug and Play - more like Plug and Pay then Pray...

-- Peter Bull
Computer Coach

Phone 9362 3138, Mobile 0427 474 013
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
http://www.compcoach.net

Re: ADSL AVAILABILITY IN JOONDALUP

[Mike MOORE]

I think its more of a case that it is relatively cheap to implement for 
Telstra when compared to rolling out new cable.


Most of the cost would in fact be borne by the customer


On 17/11/2004, at 9:44 AM, gary dorn wrote:


Typical telstra hey

I suspect that they are looking at satellite technology which is 
wireless thus no more cabling to install.

http://www.bigpond.com/internet-plans/broadband/satellite/default.asp

Imagine this,  most buildings in outer suburbs having little dishes on 
their roofs ( or cars) - just like the Jetsons


do you think the local shires would be happy with little dishes 
affecting their streetscapes!




--
Gary Dorn
Architect
Perth,  Australia

Re: Mozilla /thunderbird

[Adam Hewitt]

Hi All,

I use both at home and at work (well for the time being as work is 
implementing an SOE which will force me to use Lookout...but at least I 
can still use Firefox) and both are awesome. Both are very fast and do 
their jobs almost flawlessly.


Rod wrote:

Hi Bart,

I used to use Thunderbird on the PC, and it was okay.  Whatever you do,
don't stuff up putting your email passwords in though, as there is no way to
correct them (unless that bug has been fixed in the last few months).  Nice
email program.


This is not true, it just doesn't ask you for the corrected password 
again. You can go into the Mail Settings and there is a password section 
where you can forget the current stored password.




As for your Phone Manager app, I use a Nokia 3650, which is unsupported.  I
guess you will find most people here don't have the 3 phones this app
supports!

OT, I heard 3 had a $49 cap plan for $200 worth of calls (including video),
with a $15 minimum spend (good value I think!).  Anybody know if any of the
3G phones are supported in iSync yet?

Seeya

Rod!

On 17/11/04 8:56 AM, "Bart Raffaele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: Mozilla /thunderbird

[Paul Kitchener]

Bart Raffaele wrote:

Hi all
has anyone tried Mozilla /thunderbird for there email any comments on if 
it's any good.


thanks

Bart.

p.s it looks like i might be the only one using phone manager 1.1.4 
http://www.macmedia.sk/pm.htm  for the nokia 6310i on os x , no body 
commented on if they had or not. Every one must be into the colour  
sceam of thing on mobile phone (not me yet) :-)


Thanks

Bart.


We use both here, firefox as a second-string browser (less now though as 
gmail is more safari friendly). Gotta love extensions, the one submitted 
to the list recently; bugmenot is good and we love firesomething and 
stumble.

If someone wrote an app so safari could use firefox extensions...

Thunderbird is our main email client. Better with attachments and the 
addressbook seems simpler. I miss the thread highlighting function in 
mail.app though, but thats about it.



Cheers

Paul

Re: Mozilla /thunderbird

[Rod]

Hi Bart,

I used to use Thunderbird on the PC, and it was okay.  Whatever you do,
don't stuff up putting your email passwords in though, as there is no way to
correct them (unless that bug has been fixed in the last few months).  Nice
email program.

As for your Phone Manager app, I use a Nokia 3650, which is unsupported.  I
guess you will find most people here don't have the 3 phones this app
supports!

OT, I heard 3 had a $49 cap plan for $200 worth of calls (including video),
with a $15 minimum spend (good value I think!).  Anybody know if any of the
3G phones are supported in iSync yet?

Seeya

Rod!

On 17/11/04 8:56 AM, "Bart Raffaele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all
> has anyone tried Mozilla /thunderbird for there email any comments on if
> it's any good.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Bart.
> 
> p.s it looks like i might be the only one using phone manager 1.1.4
> http://www.macmedia.sk/pm.htm  for the nokia 6310i on os x , no body
> commented on if they had or not. Every one must be into the colour
> sceam of thing on mobile phone (not me yet) :-)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Bart.
> 
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Mozilla /thunderbird

[Bart Raffaele]

Hi all
has anyone tried Mozilla /thunderbird for there email any comments on if 
it's any good.


thanks

Bart.

p.s it looks like i might be the only one using phone manager 1.1.4 
http://www.macmedia.sk/pm.htm  for the nokia 6310i on os x , no body 
commented on if they had or not. Every one must be into the colour  
sceam of thing on mobile phone (not me yet) :-)


Thanks

Bart.

Re: Wanted Startup Disk for Apple Iic or e

[Rod]

On 16/11/04 11:21 PM, "Rob Findlay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I bet Computer Trade Centre in Walcott St have one. Anthony there has a
> startup disk for every Mac ever made I think. 9271 0166.
> Rob
> 

I know who definitely has one - Peter Hinchcliffe!  I'm sure I saw one
amongst the extra Apple II stuff I put in his IIG collection.

Seeya

Rod!

Re: USB double adapter

[Peter Sealy]

On 17/11/2004, at 8:39 AM, Brett Curtis wrote:


is there such a thing as a USB double adapter?


My interpretation of what you mean is a USB Hub. If you mean can you 
have more than one USB connected device connected to a single USB port 
on your computer then the answer is yes. There are many USB Hubs on the 
market. They connect to your computer's USB port and have several 
[usually four, I think] USB ports in the device which you can then 
connect several USB peripherals to. I have a 4 port USB Belkin hub 
connected to one of my TiPB's USB ports. Then I have a printer, 
scanner, wireless mouse receiver and digital camera card connecter 
connected to the 4 ports. My USB Hub has external power supply. You can 
get them which draw power from your computer's USB port but I believe 
that external power is best.

If my interpretation is not what you mean, sorry for the misinformation.
.

Peter Sealy
Thurgoona AUSTRALIA

USB double adapter

[Brett Curtis]

is there such a thing as a USB double adapter?


Brett Curtis
Master Window Cleaners
Perth, Western Australia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.masterwindowcleaners.com

Re: Video editing hardware/software

[Martin Hill]

> From: Stephen Chape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I am fairly certain that by connecting a VHS Player to a Digital
> Camcorder and then the Camcorder to the Mac (using firewire) you can
> download video directly to iMovie.
> 
> So the Camcorder becomes (in effect) an analogue to digital converter.
> Perhaps a more experienced WAMUG member can back me up or correct (if
> necessary) me on this.
> 
> On 14/11/2004, at 11:29 PM, Greg Satti wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Just wondering if anyone has any recommendations about video editing
>> hardware/software to transfer VHS to Mac via firewire/usb.  Any good
>> and/or
>> bad reports greatly appreciated - cheers.

As has been mentioned on a number of previous occasions on this list, the
easiest and cheapest solution software-wise is iMovie (and iDVD if you wish
to output to DVD). 

Hardware-wise, there are a number of options including one new one just
released yesterday:

- Just released ConvertX Plexor USB 2.0 analog video TV tuner and PVR.  It
also allows you to plug a VCR or other video source in to capture from at up
to 720x480.  I haven't used this yet and haven't seen any reviews, but it
looks like a reasonable option if you don't already have a DV camera:
  US$229  The EyeTV software provides basic video editing
or you can use Quicktime Pro or import (convert) into iMovie.


- Alchemy TV also does the TV tuner thing and captures full screen, full
motion analog video.  This is a PCI card so you need a Mac with PCI slots
(PowerMac G4 or G5)  We've had good results with several of these cards.
This is probably the cheapest option at Aus$215 for high quality analog
video capture
http://miglia.com/products/video/alchemytvdvr/index.html

- DV video camera acting as an analog to DV converter (as Stephen describes
above).  I've used this many times quite successfully.  Just make sure the
camcorder is recent enough to support AV input.  Our old Sony DCR-TRV7
camcorder doesn't and neither do camcorders sold in Europe (due to
legislation banning the feature I believe! This has I think (hope!) changed
in recent years)

- Analog-Firewire video converters.  The Canopus ADVC-100 series has worked
well for us 
http://www.canopus-aust.com/AU/products/ADVC-100/pm_advc-100.asp Aus$650
as has the Miglia Directors Cut
http://miglia.com/products/video/director2/index.html

- The cheapest option is various USB v1.0 video capture dongles but they
only capture at quarter screen resolution so I don't recommend them. We do
have a number of Mac OS X compatible XLR8 Interview USB v1.0 video capture
interfaces (Aus$85 if I recall) and use them successfully for some low-end
tasks.  

-Mart
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