Re: New iMac Advice
On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. AND here is a URL to benchmarks that say extra RAM equals faster Mac http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Memory_Benchmark/Apple_iMac/ Bob Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus?
I have been getting a whole heap of undeliverable mail warnings. Do I have a virus and if so, how do i get rid of it?? Any ideas??? regards Chris Griffiths -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus?
Hi Chris What's the reason you are given in the e-mail you receive letting you know that your e-mail could not be delivered. Messages can get returned for various reasons such as No such Address Mail box full Attachment to large and much much more Most of the time the answer is given in their e-mail you receive back in Plain English. But sometimes you get error numbers which are very Unhelpful Kyle On 5/2/08, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been getting a whole heap of undeliverable mail warnings. Do I have a virus and if so, how do i get rid of it?? Any ideas??? regards Chris Griffiths -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Virus?
Also to note is that when Windows machines are infected by certain SPAM bots they harvest the infected machine's address book and will not just send to people in the address book but also fake the from address using addresses in the address book. Some of the more sophisticated ones also harvest these addresses and send them back to a central list. If they use your address as the from/reply to field (which is just a text field and can be anything like [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want) and send to a deleted address (or a server that has their spam filter set to respond with a invalid address response to spam then you will get these messages I've received spam that, going by the to from fields has come from me, being sent to to me but the path shows that it's come from else were. Also spamers sell/trade/steal mail address lists between each other. so if your getting undeliverable messages addressed to people you've never heard of then one of the above is what's probably happening. I have been getting a whole heap of undeliverable mail warnings. Do I have a virus and if so, how do i get rid of it?? Any ideas??? regards Chris Griffiths -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Secker Computer Support Officer ph# 61-8-6488 1855 (ECEL) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ http://www.pbase.com/marxz It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) Ubi fumus, ibi fumus -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Hi Reg I believe in the end they claimed the ATI Radeon graphics card Wasn't up to scratch Kyle On 5/2/08, Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Rob for this info. It's interesting reading. Did they ever resolve why the Halo gaming scores were so low? I don't game but know others who do and these results are significantly lower than the previous (to the last model) iMac performance, across the board. E.g. 32 fps v 126 fps. Reg On 2 May 2008, at 3:50pm, Robert Howells wrote: On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. AND here is a URL to benchmarks that say extra RAM equals faster Mac http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Memory_Benchmark/Apple_iMac/ Bob Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non-Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Thanks Rob for this info. It's interesting reading. Did they ever resolve why the Halo gaming scores were so low? I don't game but know others who do and these results are significantly lower than the previous (to the last model) iMac performance, across the board. E.g. 32 fps v 126 fps. Reg On 2 May 2008, at 3:50pm, Robert Howells wrote: On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A$ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. AND here is a URL to benchmarks that say extra RAM equals faster Mac http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Memory_Benchmark/Apple_iMac/ Bob Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[4Sale] Crazy Offer time,....
Hi All Still got a few machines to sell,..so thought I would try the following,.. If you're interested in any of the following,..email me an offer,.. And I'll look at it and consider it. I've got some more trade-in's in the works so want to move these out to make room. :o) So go on,...have a look,..and email an offer. You might be pleasantly surprised.. * DESKTOPS ** PowerMac G5 2.7GHzDP 4GB RAM, 74GB 10,000rpm Hard Drive SuperDrive, Wireless, Bluetooth PowerMac G5 2.5GHz DP 5GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive SuperDrive PowerMac G4 400MHz 896MB RAM, 60GB Hard Drive, SuperDrive $200 iMac G3 500MHz 512MB RAM, 40GB Hard Drive, CDRW $75 *** LAPTOPS MacBook Pro Core2 Duo 2.33GHz 2GB RAM, 250GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, SuperDrive PowerBook G4 17 1GHz, 768MB RAM, 60GB Hard Drive, SuperDrive Thanks for looking! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mighty Mouse
Hi Rosie, After using rechargeable batteries of all sizes for well over 25 years now, I have experienced only 1, yes! 1 single battery with a slight corrosion of the casing and no serious leaking. That's not something I can say about the non-rechargeable ones. But battery technology has progressed enormously these days and I cannot see you having major problems with the new breed of rechargeable anyway. Good luck with your mighty mouse, Philippe C Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Mighty Mouse Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:37:49 +0800 Hi all Thanks to Ruben, Mart Paul for your suggestions on alternative batteries for the Mighty Mouse. I'm relatively unfamiliar with rechargeable batteries, and didn't consider using them, as I was told by someone sometime ago that there is a risk of leakages, with them, so I've purposely avoided using them. However, on the basis that I do have faith in the expertise of members of this list I'll check out -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
Also performance difference between 2Gb and 4Gb of RAM was very marginal. Thanks Rob for this info. It's interesting reading. Did they ever resolve why the Halo gaming scores were so low? I don't game but know others who do and these results are significantly lower than the previous (to the last model) iMac performance, across the board. E.g. 32 fps v 126 fps. Reg On 2 May 2008, at 3:50pm, Robert Howells wrote: On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A $ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. AND here is a URL to benchmarks that say extra RAM equals faster Mac http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Memory_Benchmark/Apple_iMac/ Bob Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Double finder
A friend of mine allowed his 2 yr old grandson to bash on the keyboard, turning on various applications, which he turned off. But since then the finder has every menu item doubled. Eg Shut down, or Sleep appear twice. He has re-booted but still the strange items appear. One of each set work., Eg if he clicks on Sleep there is no reaction from one, but the other will make it sleep. Any suggestions - apart from having greater control over his grandson! Lloyd - -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New iMac Advice
In the real world, having as much RAM as you can put in the computer does make a difference unless you only have one or two programs open (or especially if you have multiple users logged in). If you usually have half a dozen like I/we do, with limited RAM, you will end up with some memory paging out to disk (and a large swap file). Install the free iStatMenus (memory module) and you can monitor this. If you have a swap file at all, having more physical memory would have benefited you. Have a look after you have used the computer in typical mode for a while to get the real world statistics. I initially upgraded my MacBook Pro from 2 to 4 and then, noticing the difference, upgraded our iMac too. Sent via Marks BlackBerry from Telstra -Original Message- From: Dark1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 03 May 2008 03:13:00 To:WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: New iMac Advice Also performance difference between 2Gb and 4Gb of RAM was very marginal. Thanks Rob for this info. It's interesting reading. Did they ever resolve why the Halo gaming scores were so low? I don't game but know others who do and these results are significantly lower than the previous (to the last model) iMac performance, across the board. E.g. 32 fps v 126 fps. Reg On 2 May 2008, at 3:50pm, Robert Howells wrote: On 29/04/2008, at 6:34 PM, Reg Whitely wrote: Dear WAMUGgers If I was *tempted* to buy a new iMac 24 3.06GB at Apple Ed price of $2787, would it be good value to upsize to 4GHz RAM instead of 2GHz (2 x 2 GHz v 2 x 1GHz) for an extra $269.50, and to upsize the HDD from its 500GB to 750GB [Plus A$ 135.30] or to 1TB [Plus A $ 333.30]? I'm not really worried about upgrading to wireless mouse and keyboard at this time. The specs look Ok to me out of the box for what we currently need, but I've always subscribed to the good advice of getting the highest specs we can at purchase. AND here is a URL to benchmarks that say extra RAM equals faster Mac http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Memory_Benchmark/Apple_iMac/ Bob Would it be better to update later, if needed, with Apple or non- Apple hardware? Daniel, other? Just dreaming but Elaine's Ruby iMac is getting very slow with Tigger and all her digital pics and rellie's PPTs on board. We'll need a new baby to do it all on one day soon. Regards Reg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Unable to eject/insert CD
Thanks Reg / James /Kyle for your input, I had tried each of them with no results ( I also tried each one again just before I sent this message,just to be on the safe side, still no result, I don't think I am game enough to try poking a screwdriver in there ( I usually end up causing more problems, but thanks for all your ideas. I am still hopeful that someone on the list will be able to assist rectifying my problem ie. 1. rectifying the CD problem. 2. getting rid of the Menu bar eject icon Still Hopeful Bill Begin forwarded message: From: Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 1 May 2008 10:19:46 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Unable to eject/insert CD Dear Bill and WAMUGgers Not pretty but it's advice that has worked for me, from the techie of a 1:1 laptop for kids program (MacBooks). If the computer goes through the actions of attempting to eject, then reloading the disk again, it is possible that the case is bent at the CD slot. Use a flat screwdriver to gently (and later in my experience more strongly) prise open the slot and restart while holding down the mouse/trackpad. It took me about 10 attempts with one of my trusty Year 7 helpers to extract the recalcitrant disk. We discussed using tweezers too as the disk came to the edge of the slot then went back in again. When finally my nimble-fingered 12 year old got hold of the disk and dragged it out, we found some paper stuffed in there with it. This may not be your problem with your G5 (iMac) but it's worth a try. Have fun Reg On 1 May 2008, at 6:27pm, James Devenish wrote: Hi Bill, I think it is possible for a slot load drive to end up half way open, half way closed. I think this happened to me once, and I used a skewer to nudge a plastic lever that prompted the drive complete either its insert action or its eject action (at which point it figured out there was no disc). I'm not sure if that is good advice for your situation! There is another odd situation that can arise. If you have inserted a blank disc while iTunes is open, but then not burnt a disc with iTunes, then the rest of the computer loses track of the drive. The solution (other than rebooting) is to open iTunes and press the Eject button within iTunes itself. Regards, James. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, Have G5, 10.4.11, 1.8Ghz, 768 mb Ram, I am unable to insert a CD into the side slot, There is no indication on the desk top that one is inserted, ( I am not absolutley convinced that there is a disk in there! ) but I guess there must be one in ! ) I have done all the suggestions as in Mac Help which include 1.Pressing the eject on the key board, 2. Restarting with the mouse button held down, 3. Pressing the eject button in Itunes. 4. Disk utility to select disk before pressing eject, but there is no disk shown to eject ? . 5. can't find an emergency eject hole to try this and now somehow an eject icon ( like the one on the Top right keyboard button) has appeared in the Menu Bar which when you press it it scrolls down saying Close Superdrive , thankfully nothing happens when I press it, as I haven't a clue what would happen if it did close it down, I have exhausted my meagre knowledge on trying to rectifying these, I'd be grateful for any help ( not too technical ) as to 1. rectifying the CD problem 2. getting rid of the Menu bar icon TIA Bill -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Double finder
On 03/05/2008, at 10:23 AM, Lloyd White wrote: A friend of mine allowed his 2 yr old grandson to bash on the keyboard, turning on various applications, which he turned off. But since then the finder has every menu item doubled. Eg Shut down, or Sleep appear twice. He has re-booted but still the strange items appear. One of each set work., Eg if he clicks on Sleep there is no reaction from one, but the other will make it sleep. Any suggestions - apart from having greater control over his grandson! Lloyd OK ! There is always the standby option of creating a new user and starting from that user to help isolate the problem . I am guessing problem is in the User preferences but this will prove it . Like : Is it in the preferences of the user or the System ? Then I would be looking to trash the Finder preferences and doing a restart . User-Library-preferences - com.apple.finder.plist Might need something else as well . Bob -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
G3 No Power
Hi List You are my last hope barring mac doctor, I shut down my old work horse a G3 Beige Desk Top for a week turning the power off at the power point as well, when I turned it back on it does not respond as if it does not have power to it. I have changed pram battery and reset cuda but there is no life, any ideas would be gratefully appreciated. Regards Clive -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to eject/insert CD
Thanks Kyle, have tried 51008 106752, still no effect Thanks Bob for your offer, I am certainly concidering your offer , I've a few more ideas to try out from others, and it is a Imac G5, 20 screen, 1.8ghz. bought 29 Oct 2004...been a perfect machine other than this ! I'm thinking now that there may be a cd stuck in there, although I can't confirm visually Thanks again Bill On 03/05/2008, at 12:36 PM, Kyle Kreusch wrote: Hi Bill Just a clarification What type of computer is it Power Mac G5 (Tower computer) or a iMac On 5/3/08, Kyle Kreusch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bill Just quickly make sure you've tried everything written here http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=51008 And if you have tried everything written here move onto this is http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106752 Try this more than once if it doesn't work the first Time If this does not work your only option left Is to take it to a service centre Regards, Kyle Kyle Kreusch (Webmaster) This e-mail was Dictated Using Dragon NaturallySpeaking 9 (GMUG) Geraldton Macintosh User Group Website: http://www.gmug.org.au/ E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Direct E-mail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Remember Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening windows !!! -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
