Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:55 AM, Michael Waldie wrote: The thing I don't like about autofill is that quite often I'm typing words similar to what is in the autofill but not those exact words. Some that are shorter and then you press enter after the word and it puts the word there instead of the what I'm after. Admittedly this would not happen to just about everyone else, but I don't care for the autofill feature being none existant. I think you're talking about IE's autocomplete here, not autofill. Autocomplete is a typical M$ feature that assumes that you always want to type the same thing, and as such is pretty useless, and downright annoying in something like a word processor. Forms autocomplete fill out all the fields in an online form according to information you provide in a standard profile, and is extremely useful. The Mozilla/Netscape version provides many more fields in its profile than the IE version, and it even has the ability to learn from similar forms you've filled in before. It also gives you a dynamic preview of the data before you let it go ahead and fill it all in. Tabbed browsing is nice, but this stuff is now an essential part of my browser use, If and when Apple put something like it into Safari, I'll switch full time. -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Matthew Healey wrote: Safari itself is not Open Source. The rendering engine and the scripting engine is though. So much so that the guys at Omni have more or less announced that future versions of Omniweb will be based on it. -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Anyone tried Safari yet?
Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. Steve's Big Thing, the bookmark management, is truly excellent. Very similar to managing library compenents in iTunes and iPhoto. Much more impressive to use than to watch being demoed. One cool feature is one which has a counterpart in Omniweb - a progress window. It displays the components of a page as they are being downloaded, and each one (ie, images, etc) can bee double-clicked and displayed in its own window. The interface has lots of nice little necessary but hidden surprises, such as holding down the mouse button on the back arrow to see a list of previous sites. Expected, but not obvious from the interface. The only thing missing, and this is what will keep me using Mozilla for a while yet, is forms autofill. First introduced in IE, it has been taken to a much higher level in Mozilla, and I can't live without it (I loathe filling in forms!). If Apple (the great innovators) were to give us something similar in Safari, I'd probably leave Mozilla and the rest far behind. What do others think? -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
Like most browsers it still doesn't support some of Westpac Bank's IB features - I use IE just to do banking, Qantas Frequent Flyer and a couple of others. No doubt others will add more sites unsupported, to this list. It looks pretty quick but first impressions don't shake Chimera as my browser of choice. On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. What do others think? Peter Hinchliffe Keith Palmer Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231 Phone: 0419927101 Fax: 0897915900 the online data storage technology store - http://www.zytech.com.au/ Get FREE business cards at - http://www.zytech.com.au/contact.html
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet? (GROAN Warning!)
It sounds good, but how come it is not called ibrowse :-) Dave (biochemist humour) Chandler On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. Steve's Big Thing, the bookmark management, is truly excellent. Very similar to managing library compenents in iTunes and iPhoto. Much more impressive to use than to watch being demoed. One cool feature is one which has a counterpart in Omniweb - a progress window. It displays the components of a page as they are being downloaded, and each one (ie, images, etc) can bee double-clicked and displayed in its own window. The interface has lots of nice little necessary but hidden surprises, such as holding down the mouse button on the back arrow to see a list of previous sites. Expected, but not obvious from the interface. The only thing missing, and this is what will keep me using Mozilla for a while yet, is forms autofill. First introduced in IE, it has been taken to a much higher level in Mozilla, and I can't live without it (I loathe filling in forms!). If Apple (the great innovators) were to give us something similar in Safari, I'd probably leave Mozilla and the rest far behind. What do others think? -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.html Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.html Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet? (GROAN Warning!)
David iWas reading the iLife stuff off the iWeb this morning and got a bit iTongue tied - and no iDidn't sit up to watch Steve's presentation. I said iGiveup and Elaine (my iWife) replied No that isn't packaged with it! That's probably why no iBrowse iWink. Reg On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:03 am, David Chandler wrote: It sounds good, but how come it is not called ibrowse :-) Dave (biochemist humour) Chandler
RE: Anyone tried Safari yet?
One thing I could really want, though having tried it for all of 15 minutes now, is tabbed browsing. The one thing that drew me to mozilla originally. Window clutter irks me to no end, and tabbed browsing is so useful. But apart from that is a very nice browser. sTEVE -Original Message- From: Keith Palmer, Zytech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 January 2003 9:52 AM To: Wamug Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Anyone tried Safari yet? Like most browsers it still doesn't support some of Westpac Bank's IB features - I use IE just to do banking, Qantas Frequent Flyer and a couple of others. No doubt others will add more sites unsupported, to this list. It looks pretty quick but first impressions don't shake Chimera as my browser of choice. On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. What do others think? Peter Hinchliffe Keith Palmer Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231 Phone: 0419927101 Fax: 0897915900 the online data storage technology store - http://www.zytech.com.au/ Get FREE business cards at - http://www.zytech.com.au/contact.html -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.html Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.html Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing missing, and this is what will keep me using Mozilla for a while yet, is forms autofill. First introduced in IE, it has been taken to a much higher level in Mozilla, and I can't live without it (I loathe filling in forms!). If Apple (the great innovators) were to give us something similar in Safari, I'd probably leave Mozilla and the rest far behind. What do others think? I've got to say that I'm very impressed. I have Omniweb as my main browser, but usually change between that and IE as there are a few sites I regularly go to that work better in one than the other. So far, with Safari, all is looking good! The thing I don't like about autofill is that quite often I'm typing words similar to what is in the autofill but not those exact words. Some that are shorter and then you press enter after the word and it puts the word there instead of the what I'm after. Admittedly this would not happen to just about everyone else, but I don't care for the autofill feature being none existant. ~ Michael Waldie Sales consultant Curtin Computer Shop Curtin University Bookshop Curtin University of Technology Ph: 08 9266 2700 Fax: 08 9266 3188 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bookshop.curtin.edu.au/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
Hi Guys I have been using it all morning without any serious problems I do find it a little slow but must bear in mind I am using a BW G3/300. I had no problems going into Yahoo/wamug at all. (Using iprimus) ANZ internet banking also works very well. Regards Roger -- Roger P Kortas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 09:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do others think? I think it is a much need boost to the state of Mac browsers. It's interesting thought that they didn't compare it to IE on Windows. Don't forget that this software is only beta v0.8 actually and more improvements will come with time. I am guessing they will come quite quickly now that the software is out. I think tabbed browsing and forms auto-fill will probably be some of the most requested features. It will be interesting to see how it develops over the next few months. - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
on 8/1/03 9:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. It's missing forms autofill which you pointed out. It's also missing tabbed browsing which I can't live without. I like tabbed browsing so much I run Netscape 7 on my only OS9 machine just to have it. Since Safari is open source anything missing may be added by someone else though.
Re: Anyone tried Safari yet?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 01:53 PM, DJ Grafix Design wrote: on 8/1/03 9:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since no one on the list has started this particular ball rolling yet, let me be the first to give it a nudge. I have been using Mozilla as my default browser for the last 6 months or so, and although I won't be giving it up yet, I must say I am very impressed with what Apple have come up with in Safari. It _is_ fast (much faster that IE, although there wouldn't be much point if it wasn't) and so far seems to be slightly faster than Mozilla, depending on the page. It's missing forms autofill which you pointed out. It's also missing tabbed browsing which I can't live without. I like tabbed browsing so much I run Netscape 7 on my only OS9 machine just to have it. Since Safari is open source anything missing may be added by someone else though. Safari itself is not Open Source. The rendering engine and the scripting engine is though. http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/webcore/ - Matt -- 0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0--0 Matt Healey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
