Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-12 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 11 Jan 2014, at 6:20 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Susan, but I think you're right Peter, the .XML file must be corrupt.
 Also I think this version of Itunes (current)  is a real pain!
 Can I go back to an earlier version?
 How do I uninstall this one safely, there are plenty of ideas on the net but 
 I don't trust them.
 I tried the restore in TM but I think I had a problem with TM a while back so 
 the backup only goes back to December last year. Won't work for me.

If iTunes starts up and runs OK then it's working fine. The problem is with the 
data. Since you can't rely on your Time Machine backup then you might find the 
procedure outlined at 
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1451?viewlocale=en_USlocale=en_US to be useful 
(steps 1-6 under Re-creating the iTunes Library file)

The article contains other potentially useful leads as well.

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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-11 Thread Ken Jackson
Thanks Susan, but I think you're right Peter, the .XML file must be corrupt.
Also I think this version of Itunes (current)  is a real pain!
Can I go back to an earlier version?
How do I uninstall this one safely, there are plenty of ideas on the net
but I don't trust them.
I tried the restore in TM but I think I had a problem with TM a while back
so the backup only goes back to December last year. Won't work for me.
Thanks, s
hoe y' keeping cool!

 Thanks  regards,




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On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au
 wrote:


 On 9 Jan 2014, at 8:02 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 so what would you suggest Peter?


 Follow these steps:



 1. Open your ~/Music Folder in Finder. Look for your iTunes folder
 2. Enter Time Machine, either from the Dock Icon, the /Applications folder
 or the Time Machine item in the Menu Bar (if you have it enabled)
 3. Time Machine will start, showing your iTunes folder contents
 stretching back into the past.
 4. Choose an appropriate from the time scale at the right of the screen.
 This would be a date which would be a day or two before the disaster struck.
 5. Click the Restore button at the lower right of the screen.

 This will give you back a known good iTunes folder (minus anything you
 might have added since the disaster, of course, but I'm assuming this
 hasn't happened). As I said previously, this is the first stage of
 troubleshooting. If all goes well following the restore, then fine. If the
 problem persists, then we have something more sinister going in. It seems
 most likely, though, that something has happened to the .xml file which
 track your library's contents. This could be due to some sort of corruption
 within the file itself, or because of some structural change to the iTunes
 folder contents themselves.  This is why I recommend restoring the entire
 folder, rather than just the .xml file.

 Be aware, too, that depending on the size of your iTunes library, the
 Restore process could take some time.

 This is certainly the approach I would be taking if it were my system.

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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-09 Thread Ken Jackson
so what would you suggest Peter?

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On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Peter Hinchliffe
hinch...@multiline.com.auwrote:


 On 8 Jan 2014, at 10:14 am, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 All the music is there Peter, just not being seen by Itunes, also have a
 backup on a G5.
 Does Time Machine backup the music library as part of it's job?


 Absolutely! Since the iTunes library folder lives inside your home folder
 (~/Music) it is definitely backed up with TM. If you're using TM then
 that's very good news.

 It should be a simple matter of restoring a copy of your iTunes folder
 which predates the disaster by a few days. I say should be but that'a the
 ideal situation. It's always possible that the problem lies elsewhere than
 with the iTunes folder, but at least it's a starting point.



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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-09 Thread Susan Hastings
I haven't done this myself, but I suggest that you could try a drag and drop 
from the backup copy from time machine to your music folder. You may need to re 
establish the connection again by pointing iTunes to that folder. Holding down 
the option or command key as you open iTunes. I can check on my mac later and 
see if this is the correct process and if I can set up these instructions in a 
step wise fashion as Ronnie would do.


Sent from my iPad

 On 9 Jan 2014, at 4:02 am, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 so what would you suggest Peter?
 
 Thanks  regards,
 
  
 Ken Jackson
 
 
 
  
   
 
 
 
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 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 7:21 AM, Peter Hinchliffe hinch...@multiline.com.au 
 wrote:
 
 On 8 Jan 2014, at 10:14 am, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 All the music is there Peter, just not being seen by Itunes, also have a 
 backup on a G5.
 Does Time Machine backup the music library as part of it's job?
 Absolutely! Since the iTunes library folder lives inside your home folder 
 (~/Music) it is definitely backed up with TM. If you're using TM then that's 
 very good news.
 
 It should be a simple matter of restoring a copy of your iTunes folder which 
 predates the disaster by a few days. I say should be but that'a the ideal 
 situation. It's always possible that the problem lies elsewhere than with 
 the iTunes folder, but at least it's a starting point.
 
 
 
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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-09 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 9 Jan 2014, at 8:02 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 so what would you suggest Peter?
 
 
Follow these steps:



1. Open your ~/Music Folder in Finder. Look for your iTunes folder
2. Enter Time Machine, either from the Dock Icon, the /Applications folder or 
the Time Machine item in the Menu Bar (if you have it enabled) 
3. Time Machine will start, showing your iTunes folder contents stretching 
back into the past.
4. Choose an appropriate from the time scale at the right of the screen. This 
would be a date which would be a day or two before the disaster struck.
5. Click the Restore button at the lower right of the screen.

This will give you back a known good iTunes folder (minus anything you might 
have added since the disaster, of course, but I'm assuming this hasn't 
happened). As I said previously, this is the first stage of troubleshooting. If 
all goes well following the restore, then fine. If the problem persists, then 
we have something more sinister going in. It seems most likely, though, that 
something has happened to the .xml file which track your library's contents. 
This could be due to some sort of corruption within the file itself, or because 
of some structural change to the iTunes folder contents themselves.  This is 
why I recommend restoring the entire folder, rather than just the .xml file.

Be aware, too, that depending on the size of your iTunes library, the Restore 
process could take some time. 

This is certainly the approach I would be taking if it were my system.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-08 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 8 Jan 2014, at 10:14 am, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 All the music is there Peter, just not being seen by Itunes, also have a 
 backup on a G5.
 Does Time Machine backup the music library as part of it's job?
 
 
Absolutely! Since the iTunes library folder lives inside your home folder 
(~/Music) it is definitely backed up with TM. If you're using TM then that's 
very good news.

It should be a simple matter of restoring a copy of your iTunes folder which 
predates the disaster by a few days. I say should be but that'a the ideal 
situation. It's always possible that the problem lies elsewhere than with the 
iTunes folder, but at least it's a starting point.



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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-07 Thread Peter Hinchliffe

On 7 Jan 2014, at 1:06 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I have a G4 running my music out the bask  my Imac running a different 
 library in the studio.
 Last week I booted up the G4  used Itunes, shut down, when next I opened up 
 all of my playlists  4,700 songs had disappeared.
 Gets worse, the same thing occurred yesterday with the studio Imac!
 Running Mountain Lion on a 27 Imac.
 
 Doubt that there's any connection (except both era on the same network), I've 
 tried looking at other libraries but it seems I am in the assigned folder for 
 I tunes, stumped!
 

Please reassure us by confirming that you have backups of your iTunes folder 
for one or both of the computers...

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Re: I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-07 Thread Ken Jackson
All the music is there Peter, just not being seen by Itunes, also have a
backup on a G5.
Does Time Machine backup the music library as part of it's job?

 Thanks  regards,




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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe
hinch...@multiline.com.auwrote:


 On 7 Jan 2014, at 1:06 pm, Ken Jackson kenjackson7...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I have a G4 running my music out the bask  my Imac running a different
 library in the studio.
 Last week I booted up the G4  used Itunes, shut down, when next I opened
 up all of my playlists  4,700 songs had disappeared.
 Gets worse, the same thing occurred yesterday with the studio Imac!
 Running Mountain Lion on a 27 Imac.

 Doubt that there's any connection (except both era on the same network),
 I've tried looking at other libraries but it seems I am in the assigned
 folder for I tunes, stumped!


 Please reassure us by confirming that you have backups of your iTunes
 folder for one or both of the computers...

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I tunes

2014-01-07 Thread Ken Jackson
No, it's pointed at the right library: Itunes/Itunes media/Music.

The songs are there, just not finding them.

Tried unticking 'keep music organised', then searched 7 found a track, it
asked if I wanted to search for the rest of the missing files but when I
said yes...

*Tunes was not able to locate any of 7255 missing files. *


??






Thanks  regards,




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I tunes catastrophes

2014-01-06 Thread Ken Jackson
Hi folks,
I have a G4 running my music out the bask  my Imac running a different
library in the studio.
Last week I booted up the G4  used Itunes, shut down, when next I opened
up all of my playlists  4,700 songs had disappeared.
Gets worse, the same thing occurred yesterday with the studio Imac!
Running Mountain Lion on a 27 Imac.

Doubt that there's any connection (except both era on the same network),
I've tried looking at other libraries but it seems I am in the assigned
folder for I tunes, stumped!

Thanks  regards,




Ken Jackson








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Re: i-tunes to external harddrive

2009-09-19 Thread Andrew


Do you have Time Machine?
I told Time Machine not to back up iTunes due to partition size on  
external hard drive.

I copied the iTunes Music folder manually to a different partition.
As far as I know it would do it and change/add when new backup is done.

Andrew



On 18/09/2009, at 10:48 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


I want to backup my library to an external hard drive .
It is appr.400 gb big and I want to keep the structure as in i- 
tunes.

I have it sorted like ---Classical Music/ Artist/ Album.
Is there any way of doing this,and keeping the structureI found  
the internet very confusing.


Or is it better to clone the external hard drive (how to do?) and  
sync the two.


Thanks in advance Martin

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Re: i-tunes to external harddrive

2009-09-19 Thread Ronda Brown



On 19/09/2009, at 2:01 PM, Andrew wrote:



Do you have Time Machine?
I told Time Machine not to back up iTunes due to partition size on  
external hard drive.

I copied the iTunes Music folder manually to a different partition.
As far as I know it would do it and change/add when new backup is  
done.


Hello Andrew,

Your iTunes Music Folder is on a different partition to your Time  
Machine backup, so it won't be backed up by Time Machine.


I wouldn't recommend this as you are putting files and data that are  
not being backed up onto the Time Machine drive.
I would prefer to use a drive that has no other function other than to  
hold backup data as your Time Machine drive.


Use another Drive to store files  data that you don't want to backup.

Cheers,
Ronni



On 18/09/2009, at 10:48 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


I want to backup my library to an external hard drive .
It is appr.400 gb big and I want to keep the structure as in i- 
tunes.

I have it sorted like ---Classical Music/ Artist/ Album.
Is there any way of doing this,and keeping the structureI found  
the internet very confusing.


Or is it better to clone the external hard drive (how to do?) and  
sync the two.


Thanks in advance Martin




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i-tunes to external harddrive

2009-09-18 Thread Martin Sulkowski

I want to backup my library to an external hard drive .It is appr.400 gb big 
and I want to keep the structure as in i-tunes.I have it sorted like 
---Classical Music/ Artist/ Album.Is there any way of doing this,and keeping 
the structureI found the internet very confusing.
Or is it better to clone the external hard drive (how to do?) and sync the two.
Thanks in advance Martin
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Re: i-tunes to external harddrive

2009-09-18 Thread Philippe Chaperon
Hi Martin,
Have you tried copying your whole music folder which is in your Users/your
directory/Music/iTunes, and pasting it in your external drive. I believe you
can point iTunes to this 'new' location  so that it can play the songs from
the external drive. What I do not know is how to sync the 2 folders on you
main drive and the external one.

Regards,

Philippe C

2009/9/18 Martin Sulkowski martin6...@live.com

  I want to backup my library to an external hard drive .It is appr.400 gb
 big and I want to keep the structure as in i-tunes.
 I have it sorted like ---Classical Music/ Artist/ Album.
 Is there any way of doing this,and keeping the structureI found the
 internet very confusing.

 Or is it better to clone the external hard drive (how to do?) and sync the
 two.

 Thanks in advance Martin

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Re: i-tunes to external harddrive

2009-09-18 Thread James Devenish

Hi Martin,

Backup up your iTunes library is as simple as copying your 'iTunes'
folder. For instance, you can open your 'Music' folder and
drag-and-drop the 'iTunes' folder icon onto your external hard disk
icon.

Of course, this will take a very long time because you have 400 GB of
music, and maintaining this backup would require that you copy the
whole 400 GB every time you make a backup. Therefore, you may prefer
to use backup (sync) software instead. Backup and sync software works
by detecting changes, and only needs to back up the new/changed files.

If you ever need to recover your iTunes library, you can simply drag
the backed up 'iTunes' folder back to your Music folder.
Alternatively, if you wanted to point iTunes to use the external disk
instead of your internal disk, open iTunes and hold then down the
Option key as soon as possible. iTunes should ask you whether you want
to Quit, Create a New Library, or Open A Library. You can choose
Open... and select your external iTunes folder. iTunes will remember
this setting.

James


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Re: I-tunes still not working

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Sulkowski
h I 'm still not much further ...I can start the e=mac in  
targetmode both as administrator as well as other user ,but still  
I' can't see the firewire symbol on the I-mac.. do I have to  
authorize the firewire port  ???or is there something else I have to  
do ?


Everybit of help is greatly appreciated as I could finf only the same  
advice on the net as given to me from wamug


Thanks in advance Martin
On 21/02/2009, at 11:13 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the  
computers in
Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire  
drive on the

other machine.

For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you  
need to

start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the T key
whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a blank
screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.

You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name  
of the

eMac harddrive) on the iMac.

HTH

Cheers




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on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au  
wrote:



Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer  
my i-

Tunes library to the e-mac .

Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
get imported.

Thanks a lot Martin

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Re: I-tunes still not working

2009-02-21 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Martin,

A few things come to mind:

- Sometimes when I've had external HDs not show up unplugging and
re-plugging the firewire cable has helped - worth a try.

- Open disk utility on the iMac and see if it finds the the eMac's disk.

- Run system profiler on the iMac (open about this mac and click more
info or go to Applications/Utilities/System Profiler) and look under
Hardware, Firewire, and see if the eMac's disk is showing up. Let us know
what it shows.

- Do you have any other firewire device you can try on both computers, in
turn, just to check that the firewire ports ARE working on both machines.

Another alternative, if you find you have problems with one or the other of
the firewire ports, would be to connect the two computers with an ethernet
cable (obviously the eMac would need to be normally booted, not in target
mode) enable file sharing and transfer the files over the network
connection.


HTH



Cheers


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on 22/2/09 11:48 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote:

 h I 'm still not much further ...I can start the e=mac in
 targetmode both as administrator as well as other user ,but still
 I' can't see the firewire symbol on the I-mac.. do I have to
 authorize the firewire port  ???or is there something else I have to
 do ?
 
 Everybit of help is greatly appreciated as I could finf only the same
 advice on the net as given to me from wamug
 
 Thanks in advance Martin
 On 21/02/2009, at 11:13 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:
 
 Hi Martin,
 
 To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the
 computers in
 Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire
 drive on the
 other machine.
 
 For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you
 need to
 start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the T key
 whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a blank
 screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.
 
 You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name
 of the
 eMac harddrive) on the iMac.
 
 HTH
 
 Cheers
 
 
 
 
 Neil
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 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com
 
 
 on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au
 wrote:
 
 Hi Everyone
 
 I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
 well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer
 my i-
 Tunes library to the e-mac .
 
 Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.
 
 How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
 get imported.
 
 Thanks a lot Martin
 
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Re: I-tunes still not working

2009-02-21 Thread Martin Sulkowski

Hi Neil

Thanks for the reply.Yes iI tried another firewire device and the  
ports seem to work.


Unplugging I did before and didn't solve that problem.

Neither in Disk Utility nor in System profiler I fnd the e-Mac.

I try to get a new firewire next week to see if that one is working.

Thanks again Martin
On 22/02/2009, at 12:39 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

A few things come to mind:

- Sometimes when I've had external HDs not show up unplugging and
re-plugging the firewire cable has helped - worth a try.

- Open disk utility on the iMac and see if it finds the the eMac's  
disk.


- Run system profiler on the iMac (open about this mac and click  
more

info or go to Applications/Utilities/System Profiler) and look under
Hardware, Firewire, and see if the eMac's disk is showing up. Let  
us know

what it shows.

- Do you have any other firewire device you can try on both  
computers, in
turn, just to check that the firewire ports ARE working on both  
machines.


Another alternative, if you find you have problems with one or the  
other of
the firewire ports, would be to connect the two computers with an  
ethernet
cable (obviously the eMac would need to be normally booted, not in  
target

mode) enable file sharing and transfer the files over the network
connection.


HTH



Cheers


Neil
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on 22/2/09 11:48 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au  
wrote:



h I 'm still not much further ...I can start the e=mac in
targetmode both as administrator as well as other user ,but still
I' can't see the firewire symbol on the I-mac.. do I have to
authorize the firewire port  ???or is there something else I have to
do ?

Everybit of help is greatly appreciated as I could finf only the same
advice on the net as given to me from wamug

Thanks in advance Martin
On 21/02/2009, at 11:13 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the
computers in
Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire
drive on the
other machine.

For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you
need to
start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the  
T key
whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a  
blank

screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.

You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name
of the
eMac harddrive) on the iMac.

HTH

Cheers




Neil
--
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au
wrote:


Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer
my i-
Tunes library to the e-mac .

Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
get imported.

Thanks a lot Martin

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Re: I-tunes still not working

2009-02-21 Thread Manzie Greg

Hello Martin

Please be aware that some early iMacs cannot support Target Disk Mode.  
There is a list of the capable machines here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1661 
.


There are other ways to do what you want though. But I suggest you  
solve the T mode dilemma first.


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On 22/02/2009, at 12:58 PM, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


Hi Neil

Thanks for the reply.Yes iI tried another firewire device and the  
ports seem to work.


Unplugging I did before and didn't solve that problem.

Neither in Disk Utility nor in System profiler I fnd the e-Mac.

I try to get a new firewire next week to see if that one is working.

Thanks again Martin
On 22/02/2009, at 12:39 PM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

A few things come to mind:

- Sometimes when I've had external HDs not show up unplugging and
re-plugging the firewire cable has helped - worth a try.

- Open disk utility on the iMac and see if it finds the the eMac's  
disk.


- Run system profiler on the iMac (open about this mac and click  
more

info or go to Applications/Utilities/System Profiler) and look under
Hardware, Firewire, and see if the eMac's disk is showing up. Let  
us know

what it shows.

- Do you have any other firewire device you can try on both  
computers, in
turn, just to check that the firewire ports ARE working on both  
machines.


Another alternative, if you find you have problems with one or the  
other of
the firewire ports, would be to connect the two computers with an  
ethernet
cable (obviously the eMac would need to be normally booted, not in  
target

mode) enable file sharing and transfer the files over the network
connection.


HTH



Cheers


Neil
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Email: n...@possumology.com


on 22/2/09 11:48 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au  
wrote:



h I 'm still not much further ...I can start the e=mac in
targetmode both as administrator as well as other user ,but  
still

I' can't see the firewire symbol on the I-mac.. do I have to
authorize the firewire port  ???or is there something else I have to
do ?

Everybit of help is greatly appreciated as I could finf only the  
same

advice on the net as given to me from wamug

Thanks in advance Martin
On 21/02/2009, at 11:13 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the
computers in
Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire
drive on the
other machine.

For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you
need to
start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the  
T key
whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a  
blank

screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.

You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name
of the
eMac harddrive) on the iMac.

HTH

Cheers




Neil
--
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com


on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au
wrote:


Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer
my i-
Tunes library to the e-mac .

Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
get imported.

Thanks a lot Martin

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I-tunes

2009-02-20 Thread Martin Sulkowski

Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as  
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer my i- 
Tunes library to the e-mac .


Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac  
get imported.


Thanks a lot Martin

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Re: I-tunes

2009-02-20 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Martin,

To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the computers in
Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire drive on the
other machine.

For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you need to
start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the T key
whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a blank
screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.

You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name of the
eMac harddrive) on the iMac.

HTH

Cheers




Neil
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on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au wrote:

 Hi Everyone
 
 I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
 well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer my i-
 Tunes library to the e-mac .
 
 Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.
 
 How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
 get imported.
 
 Thanks a lot Martin
 
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Re: I-tunes

2009-02-20 Thread James / Hans Kunz
if i'm right one machine (the one that you want to copy from has to  
be booted in target mode (cmd-t during boot) then its accessible...  
or borrow a external fw-hd unit...

cheers   James

On 21/02/2009, at 10:32, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as  
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer my  
i-Tunes library to the e-mac .


Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac  
get imported.


Thanks a lot Martin

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Re: I-tunes

2009-02-20 Thread Martin Sulkowski
I can see the firewire on the e-Mac  but I can not see the external  
e- mac on the I_Mac.


Is there a way to eliminate the stop the e-mac to put songs into its  
library which are there already?


Thank again Martin

On 21/02/2009, at 11:13 AM, Neil Houghton wrote:


Hi Martin,

To use firewire transfer, you need to have started one one the  
computers in
Target mode - that way it just shows up as an external firewire  
drive on the

other machine.

For the way you describe, ie to use the iMac to do the work, you  
need to

start the e-mac in target mode. To do that, just hold down the T key
whilst you boot up or restart the eMac. It should startup with a blank
screen apart from the firewire symbol drifting around the screen.

You should then be able to see a new external drive (with the name  
of the

eMac harddrive) on the iMac.

HTH

Cheers




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on 21/2/09 10:32 AM, Martin Sulkowski at msulkow...@bbsat.com.au  
wrote:



Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer  
my i-

Tunes library to the e-mac .

Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac
get imported.

Thanks a lot Martin

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Re: I-tunes

2009-02-20 Thread Murdoch Allen

NO its just the T key during boot up


On 21/02/2009, at 11:30 AM, James / Hans Kunz wrote:

if i'm right one machine (the one that you want to copy from has to  
be booted in target mode (cmd-t during boot) then its accessible...  
or borrow a external fw-hd unit...

cheers   James

On 21/02/2009, at 10:32, Martin Sulkowski wrote:


Hi Everyone

I have an I-MC RUNNING 10.4.11 AND AN  e- Mac  running 10.4.11 as  
well.I linked both machines with an firewire and try to transfer  
my i-Tunes library to the e-mac .


Can't find the e-mac in FINDER window on I-Mac.

How can I make sure that only the songs which are not on the e-mac  
get imported.


Thanks a lot Martin

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I Tunes again

2005-08-24 Thread kennyj

Hi all,
well it seemed the I Tunes problem was fixed but upon rebooting after 
overnight shutdown I Tunes will not appear on the desktop, when I try 
to reboot it says restart was cancelled  because I Tunes is open???
I had trashed the preferences, after repairing permissions  now I've 
re installed I tunes but it still won't appear... all this after 
downloading the standard updates for 10.3,9?

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Ken Jackson



Fwd: I Tunes again

2005-08-24 Thread kennyj
It's OK, problem solved, apparently it failed to install itself 
properly, went to the library  initiated process  'viola'! it's back,


Thanks folks,

Ken

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Subject: I Tunes again

Hi all,
well it seemed the I Tunes problem was fixed but upon rebooting after 
overnight shutdown I Tunes will not appear on the desktop, when I try 
to reboot it says restart was cancelled  because I Tunes is open???
I had trashed the preferences, after repairing permissions  now I've 
re installed I tunes but it still won't appear... all this after 
downloading the standard updates for 10.3,9?

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Ken Jackson


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I Tunes update

2005-08-23 Thread kennyj

Hi all,
having been away a few weeks I've just allowed all the new updates to 
install (OSX, 10.3.9)...

I now can't open I Tunes from the dock?
Have trashed the 'alias', created a new one but can't even open I Tunes 
from the applications folder?!


Is this an issue because of the updates, I would imagine the updates 
are for Tiger or is that not a drama?


Any help much appreciated,

Ken Jackson



Re: I Tunes update

2005-08-23 Thread Daniel Kerr
On 22/08/2005 11:28 PM, kennyj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 having been away a few weeks I've just allowed all the new updates to
 install (OSX, 10.3.9)...
 I now can't open I Tunes from the dock?
 Have trashed the 'alias', created a new one but can't even open I Tunes
 from the applications folder?!
 
 Is this an issue because of the updates, I would imagine the updates
 are for Tiger or is that not a drama?
 
 Any help much appreciated,
 
 Ken Jackson
 

Hi Ken

Have you tried repairing permissions. This is something that should always
be done after most updates.
To do this go to Applications/Utilities and open Disk Utility.
There under First Aid there will be a button for Repair Permissions.
Run this and it will go through and Scroll some unix info if it finds
anything. Once finished, quit it and see if that works.

If not, then also try deleting the iTunes preferences.
This is located at 
HardDrive/Users/yourname/Library/Preferences/com.apple.itunes.plist.

Drag that to the trash and then try to open iTunes again and see if that
helps.

If that doesn't work, then another thing to see if its a System wide error
or just related to your account is to create another user, log into it and
then see if iTunes has the same problem there as well.
If iTunes opens fine on the second account then you know it's related to
something to do with just your account. Whereas if it does the same thing
under the newly created account then you know it's a system wide error.
In that case iTunes may need re-installed.


Hope that info helps.

Enjoy!

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re: I Tunes update - Does your Safari app work?

2005-08-23 Thread Derek Yeoh-Ellerton

Hi Ken and WAMUG folks.

I've found that several machines I've updated with the security update  
2005-007 (Panther), running 10.3.9, exhibit similar behaviour to what  
you are describing. I found the issue was with Mail, and Safari. I  
hadn't opened iTunes on the specific machines. But the problem sounds  
very similar.


I recommend being very careful with the 007 security updates... There  
are numerous Apple forum discussion articles about people having  
similar problems. Especially with Mac OS X 10.3.9 (I've updated 10.4.2  
machines, without issue).


What most people notice first is that Safari or some other key Apple  
applications stop working.


Check into your log files using an application such as Console. Check  
out what the most recent messages are. Also, check  
~/Library/Logs/CrashReporter log.


I found on several machines that some core files were missing or upset,  
as mentioned in these logs. These included the Java Virtual Machine.  
Hence why the application wouldn't launch. E.g...


---
dyld: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari can't open  
library: /System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/A/JavaVM

---

Check out some of these URLs to see if the symptoms match:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.68b6a437
http://discussions.info.apple.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.68b667f6
http://discussions.info.apple.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.68b6bc6f
http://discussions.info.apple.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]@.68b6f349/ 
24


(those lines might wrap, and any %20 text to be removed from the URL)

In the particular cases I experienced at the end of last week, I found  
some careful work with Pacifist (to extract certain parts of  
installers) resolved the issues, without requiring an OS install.


Keep in mind, that if you try to install, say, the Java update that is  
already installed, the Mac OS won't let you do it. But if you use  
Pacifist to do the work, you can force install any update. (So, be  
careful!)


In total, the tools I used were:

-Disk Utility
-Pacifist, along with these Mac installers:
-Mac OS X 10.3.9 installer
-Java 1.42 update 1
-Java 1.42 update 2
-Java Startup update 10.3.9

Before you attempt any fix, first make sure this is the same problem,  
by looking at your log files.


Secondly, back up any work before proceeding.

Some authors in the Apple discussions recommend reinstalling the OS.  
This *wasn't* necessary. But some careful work with Pacifist, and some  
restarts in between, was. Your mileage may vary though.


Hope that helps.

Cheers,
Derek

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Updates i Tunes

2005-08-22 Thread kennyj

Hi all,
having been away a few weeks I've just allowed all the security updates 
to install (OSX, 10.3.9)...

I now can't open I Tunes from the dock?
Is this an issue because of the updates, I would imagine the updates 
are for Tiger or is that not an drama?


Any help much appreciated,

Ken Jackson



Re: Updates i Tunes

2005-08-22 Thread bill cole


On 22/08/2005, at 3:34 PM, kennyj wrote:

I now can't open I Tunes from the dock?


Have you tried deleting itunes from the Dock, then drag your new  
iTunes app. back into dock


Seeya
Bill





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Re: Updates i Tunes

2005-08-22 Thread bill cole

Hi Ken
take your cursor onto the iTunes in the dock, drag it out of the dock  
and just let go, it will disapear in a puff, go up to the menu bar  
go scroll down to applications and this will open your  
applications, look for iTunes( if theres the old and the new one  
trash the old one)and then just drag the new iTunes app. into the  
dock, that should do it ( hopefully) if it still doesn't work  
possibly someone else on the list,more knowledgeable than me will be  
able to help.

seeya
Bill


On 22/08/2005, at 9:36 PM, kennyj wrote:


Hi Bill,
no I
'm new to OSX  not sure how to do that?
I Tunes won't open from the program itself after the updates were  
installed.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Ken


On 22/08/2005, at 4:54 PM, bill cole wrote:




On 22/08/2005, at 3:34 PM, kennyj wrote:


I now can't open I Tunes from the dock?



Have you tried deleting itunes from the Dock, then drag your new  
iTunes app. back into dock


Seeya
Bill






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