Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
Fun oh! Interesting stuff. Well I reckon 'old farts' probably know a lot more about a lot of things than 'younger farts'. However, I do remember those A and B buttons as a young kid, forgetting to push the button (was it A or B ...) and yelling down the phone to no effect (exasperating or foolish!?). Cheers Shapelle Hehe Though, to be fair, Powerwatch seem to be in the business of telling you how bad EM fields are and then selling you stuff to monitor/protect you: Mobile phones are bad! http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/rf/phones.asp EMFields has been established to provide high quality measurement equipment and screening products to protect people from the ever-increasing levels of Electromagnetic radiation, or electrosmog, in our environment. http://www.emfields.org/ So Willau-Tronic would be a competitor to EMFields which seems to be closely aligned to Powerwatch. Personally, I'm amazed that in Australia we have more mobile phone subscriptions than people! - and I'm probably more concerned about the social aspects than the radiation/medical effects - but then I am an old fart!... When I were a lad, WE never had a phone in the house... You had to walk down the road to the phone booth and play with Button A and Button B Cheers Neil (living dangerously in front of his 24 iMac, next to his DECT cordless phone!) -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/7/08 12:02 AM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:57 PM +0800 17/07/2008, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi Barry Just in case you might be interested, mobile phones can be made a lot safer, (for children and adults) with the use of phone chips. They counteract the electromagnetic waves emitted from the phone (without interfering with its operation). Willau-Tronic, a company based in Germany, have produced such a chip (E-Smog Handy chip). It is a small bit of circuit with a chip, and is fashioned so you can attach it to the battery of the phone. I do notice a difference with a chip attached. There are other organisations that produce safety devices to attach to mobile phones. Google might be able to help,there. The first mobile phone chip I ever got was for my niece (then seven years old) who had just got a mobile phone so she could keep in touch with her Dad. I'm not sure if there are still distributors in WA or not. There used to be several individuals who sold them. Willau-Tronic makes chips for computers too. I use one on my Mac 24 computer and the screen/computer no longer gives me a headache. Anywise, as there are people that make these wonderful inventions it would seem there are also people who make inventions so they are safe to use. Cheers Shapelle You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Landcare Holdings Pty Ltd Western Botanical PO Box 3393, BASSENDEAN, WA 6942 Ph: 08 9270 0999, Fax: 08 6278 4988 Ph. direct line: 08 9270 0901 Shapelle's mobile: 0429 414 064 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
I used to Push button 'B' because just sometimes you got money :-) Mac On 18/07/2008, at 6:33 PM, Shapelle McNee wrote: Fun oh! Interesting stuff. Well I reckon 'old farts' probably know a lot more about a lot of things than 'younger farts'. However, I do remember those A and B buttons as a young kid, forgetting to push the button (was it A or B ...) and yelling down the phone to no effect (exasperating or foolish!?). Cheers Shapelle Hehe Though, to be fair, Powerwatch seem to be in the business of telling you how bad EM fields are and then selling you stuff to monitor/protect you: Mobile phones are bad! http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/rf/phones.asp EMFields has been established to provide high quality measurement equipment and screening products to protect people from the ever-increasing levels of Electromagnetic radiation, or electrosmog, in our environment. http://www.emfields.org/ So Willau-Tronic would be a competitor to EMFields which seems to be closely aligned to Powerwatch. Personally, I'm amazed that in Australia we have more mobile phone subscriptions than people! - and I'm probably more concerned about the social aspects than the radiation/medical effects - but then I am an old fart!... When I were a lad, WE never had a phone in the house... You had to walk down the road to the phone booth and play with Button A and Button B Cheers Neil (living dangerously in front of his 24 iMac, next to his DECT cordless phone!) -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/7/08 12:02 AM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:57 PM +0800 17/07/2008, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi Barry Just in case you might be interested, mobile phones can be made a lot safer, (for children and adults) with the use of phone chips. They counteract the electromagnetic waves emitted from the phone (without interfering with its operation). Willau-Tronic, a company based in Germany, have produced such a chip (E-Smog Handy chip). It is a small bit of circuit with a chip, and is fashioned so you can attach it to the battery of the phone. I do notice a difference with a chip attached. There are other organisations that produce safety devices to attach to mobile phones. Google might be able to help,there. The first mobile phone chip I ever got was for my niece (then seven years old) who had just got a mobile phone so she could keep in touch with her Dad. I'm not sure if there are still distributors in WA or not. There used to be several individuals who sold them. Willau-Tronic makes chips for computers too. I use one on my Mac 24 computer and the screen/computer no longer gives me a headache. Anywise, as there are people that make these wonderful inventions it would seem there are also people who make inventions so they are safe to use. Cheers Shapelle You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Landcare Holdings Pty Ltd Western Botanical PO Box 3393, BASSENDEAN, WA 6942 Ph: 08 9270 0999, Fax: 08 6278 4988 Ph. direct line: 08 9270 0901 Shapelle's mobile: 0429 414 064 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
Ah Malcolm, Neil, Shapelle and other rabid WAMUGgers Was it the one with the mouth piece on the black box on the wall of the red booth, with a separate ear piece? I think that was a penny a call, not a florin (almost the same size in the opening, much to my Mum's fear). When I was in Nasho's in Sydney in '72 we knew a few booths that would get us 5c STD calls back home to Perth, if we knew how to use them well! There was one at Circular Quay that was free. Hey, they must have been the 1970's public version of our internet voip phones. 30 years later we're still hacking them ;-) Reg On 18 Jul 2008, at 9:26pm, Malcolm McCallum wrote: I used to Push button 'B' because just sometimes you got money :-) Mac On 18/07/2008, at 6:33 PM, Shapelle McNee wrote: Fun oh! Interesting stuff. Well I reckon 'old farts' probably know a lot more about a lot of things than 'younger farts'. However, I do remember those A and B buttons as a young kid, forgetting to push the button (was it A or B ...) and yelling down the phone to no effect (exasperating or foolish!?). Cheers Shapelle Hehe Though, to be fair, Powerwatch seem to be in the business of telling you how bad EM fields are and then selling you stuff to monitor/protect you: Mobile phones are bad! http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/rf/phones.asp EMFields has been established to provide high quality measurement equipment and screening products to protect people from the ever-increasing levels of Electromagnetic radiation, or electrosmog, in our environment. http://www.emfields.org/ So Willau-Tronic would be a competitor to EMFields which seems to be closely aligned to Powerwatch. Personally, I'm amazed that in Australia we have more mobile phone subscriptions than people! - and I'm probably more concerned about the social aspects than the radiation/medical effects - but then I am an old fart!... When I were a lad, WE never had a phone in the house... You had to walk down the road to the phone booth and play with Button A and Button B Cheers Neil (living dangerously in front of his 24 iMac, next to his DECT cordless phone!) -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/7/08 12:02 AM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:57 PM +0800 17/07/2008, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi Barry Just in case you might be interested, mobile phones can be made a lot safer, (for children and adults) with the use of phone chips. They counteract the electromagnetic waves emitted from the phone (without interfering with its operation). Willau-Tronic, a company based in Germany, have produced such a chip (E-Smog Handy chip). It is a small bit of circuit with a chip, and is fashioned so you can attach it to the battery of the phone. I do notice a difference with a chip attached. There are other organisations that produce safety devices to attach to mobile phones. Google might be able to help,there. The first mobile phone chip I ever got was for my niece (then seven years old) who had just got a mobile phone so she could keep in touch with her Dad. I'm not sure if there are still distributors in WA or not. There used to be several individuals who sold them. Willau-Tronic makes chips for computers too. I use one on my Mac 24 computer and the screen/computer no longer gives me a headache. Anywise, as there are people that make these wonderful inventions it would seem there are also people who make inventions so they are safe to use. Cheers Shapelle You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Landcare Holdings Pty Ltd Western Botanical PO Box 3393, BASSENDEAN, WA 6942 Ph: 08 9270 0999, Fax: 08 6278 4988 Ph. direct line: 08 9270 0901 Shapelle's mobile: 0429 414 064 -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is Onno back? Reg On 16 Jul 2008, at 8:48am, Barry Sexstone wrote: I didn't actually ask for a health report. On 16/07/2008, at 12:06 AM, Shay Telfer wrote: Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health Ironically removing phone towers means that mobiles then have to use more power to communicate with them. Better to have many lower power towers... More dangerous is the likelihood of someone running into you in their car while talking on their mobile phone! I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. I'd guess that you don't use wireless internet either? Or mains power 240V at 50Hz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#powertransmission Have fun, Shay (living dangerously) -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
At 11:57 PM +0800 17/07/2008, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi Barry Just in case you might be interested, mobile phones can be made a lot safer, (for children and adults) with the use of phone chips. They counteract the electromagnetic waves emitted from the phone (without interfering with its operation). Willau-Tronic, a company based in Germany, have produced such a chip (E-Smog Handy chip). It is a small bit of circuit with a chip, and is fashioned so you can attach it to the battery of the phone. I do notice a difference with a chip attached. There are other organisations that produce safety devices to attach to mobile phones. Google might be able to help,there. The first mobile phone chip I ever got was for my niece (then seven years old) who had just got a mobile phone so she could keep in touch with her Dad. I'm not sure if there are still distributors in WA or not. There used to be several individuals who sold them. Willau-Tronic makes chips for computers too. I use one on my Mac 24 computer and the screen/computer no longer gives me a headache. Anywise, as there are people that make these wonderful inventions it would seem there are also people who make inventions so they are safe to use. Cheers Shapelle You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Ha Ha, that's good Reg..., :) On 17/7/08 9:41 PM, Reg Whitely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is Onno back? Reg On 16 Jul 2008, at 8:48am, Barry Sexstone wrote: I didn't actually ask for a health report. On 16/07/2008, at 12:06 AM, Shay Telfer wrote: Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health Ironically removing phone towers means that mobiles then have to use more power to communicate with them. Better to have many lower power towers... More dangerous is the likelihood of someone running into you in their car while talking on their mobile phone! I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. I'd guess that you don't use wireless internet either? Or mains power 240V at 50Hz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#powertran smission Have fun, Shay (living dangerously) -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
Shay Telfer wrote: You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay Maybe the effect is in the potential difference between the pretty gold ink and the thick black ink. I think I'll call it the 'pretty thick' effect :-P Drifting further off-topic here... I believe the barriers that exist between people these days, that I hope mobiles etc help overcome or mitigate, cause us more damage than the phones themselves. Maybe texting is a little bit safer? I know I'm happier these days since my Mum has finally taken up texting. Fills the gaps between calls. Everything kills us; pick your poison and enjoy life ;-) Cheers Paul Fission chips with sores anyone? -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Phone 'chips' (was Old Phone)
Hehe Though, to be fair, Powerwatch seem to be in the business of telling you how bad EM fields are and then selling you stuff to monitor/protect you: Mobile phones are bad! http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/rf/phones.asp EMFields has been established to provide high quality measurement equipment and screening products to protect people from the ever-increasing levels of Electromagnetic radiation, or electrosmog, in our environment. http://www.emfields.org/ So Willau-Tronic would be a competitor to EMFields which seems to be closely aligned to Powerwatch. Personally, I'm amazed that in Australia we have more mobile phone subscriptions than people! - and I'm probably more concerned about the social aspects than the radiation/medical effects - but then I am an old fart!... When I were a lad, WE never had a phone in the house... You had to walk down the road to the phone booth and play with Button A and Button B Cheers Neil (living dangerously in front of his 24 iMac, next to his DECT cordless phone!) -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 18/7/08 12:02 AM, Shay Telfer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:57 PM +0800 17/07/2008, Shay Telfer wrote: Hi Barry Just in case you might be interested, mobile phones can be made a lot safer, (for children and adults) with the use of phone chips. They counteract the electromagnetic waves emitted from the phone (without interfering with its operation). Willau-Tronic, a company based in Germany, have produced such a chip (E-Smog Handy chip). It is a small bit of circuit with a chip, and is fashioned so you can attach it to the battery of the phone. I do notice a difference with a chip attached. There are other organisations that produce safety devices to attach to mobile phones. Google might be able to help,there. The first mobile phone chip I ever got was for my niece (then seven years old) who had just got a mobile phone so she could keep in touch with her Dad. I'm not sure if there are still distributors in WA or not. There used to be several individuals who sold them. Willau-Tronic makes chips for computers too. I use one on my Mac 24 computer and the screen/computer no longer gives me a headache. Anywise, as there are people that make these wonderful inventions it would seem there are also people who make inventions so they are safe to use. Cheers Shapelle You mean these guys? http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/News/20041213_willautronic.asp I hope they don't charge much for them. Have fun, Shay -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Phillip Just for your information my Grand-daughter is 13. She has a medical condition which is potentially serious so she need a form of communication in emergencies. I the past six months she has made about $15 of prepaid calls, not enough to cause major problems I would have thought. Barry On 15/07/2008, at 11:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. Remember that smoking, asbestos and DDT were once considered safe. I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. Australia and the Mobile Carriers Forum are really back in the dark ages and are doing very little to inform us - if it doesn't matter to you then that's a personal choice - as for us, our daughters (4 and 8) already discuss the dangers of the overuse of mobile phones (yes, I shall be holding out as long as possible before allowing them to have a mobile). Mobile phones are making certain companies very, VERY rich with total disregard to the impact on the health of our society. Oh, besides health, I met a colleague's son who at a conference admitted that his last phone bill was around $3000 and his friend, around $1500. Gosh...what did we do without them? Regards Phil With so many people showing an interest in getting an iPhone is there someone with an old unlocked phone they have replaced. I am looking for something for one of my Grandchildren who tends to destroy phones with great regularity so it needs to be reasonably cheap. Bells and whistles are not required but it must pass the not daggy test. Also should be unlocked so current Vodaphone SIM card can be used. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Gosh Barry, Has anyone offered you a phone or phones, you can buy some outright $59 - $79 phones from Vodaphone and I think they may some unlocked cheaper versions on eBay. Rick On 16/07/2008, at 9:15 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote: Phillip Just for your information my Grand-daughter is 13. She has a medical condition which is potentially serious so she need a form of communication in emergencies. I the past six months she has made about $15 of prepaid calls, not enough to cause major problems I would have thought. Barry On 15/07/2008, at 11:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. Remember that smoking, asbestos and DDT were once considered safe. I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. Australia and the Mobile Carriers Forum are really back in the dark ages and are doing very little to inform us - if it doesn't matter to you then that's a personal choice - as for us, our daughters (4 and 8) already discuss the dangers of the overuse of mobile phones (yes, I shall be holding out as long as possible before allowing them to have a mobile). Mobile phones are making certain companies very, VERY rich with total disregard to the impact on the health of our society. Oh, besides health, I met a colleague's son who at a conference admitted that his last phone bill was around $3000 and his friend, around $1500. Gosh...what did we do without them? Regards Phil With so many people showing an interest in getting an iPhone is there someone with an old unlocked phone they have replaced. I am looking for something for one of my Grandchildren who tends to destroy phones with great regularity so it needs to be reasonably cheap. Bells and whistles are not required but it must pass the not daggy test. Also should be unlocked so current Vodaphone SIM card can be used. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rick I now have a phone thank-you. Unfortunately, being a young girl the cheaper new phones available had a very low cool factor and I was hoping to get something second hand that was slightly more upmarket. I have had some problems with ebay in the past and I was hoping that Mac users would be more reliable especially with regards to battery condition which can be a problem. I also, mistakenly as it happened, thought they might be a good source as there seemed to be a number getting new iPhones. Thanks for your concern and suggestions. Barry On 17/07/2008, at 7:17 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote: Gosh Barry, Has anyone offered you a phone or phones, you can buy some outright $59 - $79 phones from Vodaphone and I think they may some unlocked cheaper versions on eBay. Rick On 16/07/2008, at 9:15 PM, Barry Sexstone wrote: Phillip Just for your information my Grand-daughter is 13. She has a medical condition which is potentially serious so she need a form of communication in emergencies. I the past six months she has made about $15 of prepaid calls, not enough to cause major problems I would have thought. Barry On 15/07/2008, at 11:04 PM, Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. Remember that smoking, asbestos and DDT were once considered safe. I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. Australia and the Mobile Carriers Forum are really back in the dark ages and are doing very little to inform us - if it doesn't matter to you then that's a personal choice - as for us, our daughters (4 and 8) already discuss the dangers of the overuse of mobile phones (yes, I shall be holding out as long as possible before allowing them to have a mobile). Mobile phones are making certain companies very, VERY rich with total disregard to the impact on the health of our society. Oh, besides health, I met a colleague's son who at a conference admitted that his last phone bill was around $3000 and his friend, around $1500. Gosh...what did we do without them? Regards Phil With so many people showing an interest in getting an iPhone is there someone with an old unlocked phone they have replaced. I am looking for something for one of my Grandchildren who tends to destroy phones with great regularity so it needs to be reasonably cheap. Bells and whistles are not required but it must pass the not daggy test. Also should be unlocked so current Vodaphone SIM card can be used. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL
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Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. Remember that smoking, asbestos and DDT were once considered safe. I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. Australia and the Mobile Carriers Forum are really back in the dark ages and are doing very little to inform us - if it doesn't matter to you then that's a personal choice - as for us, our daughters (4 and 8) already discuss the dangers of the overuse of mobile phones (yes, I shall be holding out as long as possible before allowing them to have a mobile). Mobile phones are making certain companies very, VERY rich with total disregard to the impact on the health of our society. Oh, besides health, I met a colleague's son who at a conference admitted that his last phone bill was around $3000 and his friend, around $1500. Gosh...what did we do without them? Regards Phil With so many people showing an interest in getting an iPhone is there someone with an old unlocked phone they have replaced. I am looking for something for one of my Grandchildren who tends to destroy phones with great regularity so it needs to be reasonably cheap. Bells and whistles are not required but it must pass the not daggy test. Also should be unlocked so current Vodaphone SIM card can be used. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health Ironically removing phone towers means that mobiles then have to use more power to communicate with them. Better to have many lower power towers... More dangerous is the likelihood of someone running into you in their car while talking on their mobile phone! I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. I'd guess that you don't use wireless internet either? Or mains power 240V at 50Hz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#powertransmission Have fun, Shay (living dangerously) -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I didn't actually ask for a health report. On 16/07/2008, at 12:06 AM, Shay Telfer wrote: Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health Ironically removing phone towers means that mobiles then have to use more power to communicate with them. Better to have many lower power towers... More dangerous is the likelihood of someone running into you in their car while talking on their mobile phone! I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. I'd guess that you don't use wireless internet either? Or mains power 240V at 50Hz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#powertransmission Have fun, Shay (living dangerously) -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 16/07/2008, at 8:48 AM, Barry Sexstone wrote: I didn't actually ask for a health report. Just goes to show how the members on the list CARE about the well beingof the other listers On 16/07/2008, at 12:06 AM, Shay Telfer wrote: Phillip Arena wrote: Hi Barry, Without being too much of an alarmist, how old are your grandchildren? I am surprised to see children quite young (as in 8 and below) using mobile phones. Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; I find it ironic that a number of years ago, while the public in the UK were being issued with brochures on safe use of mobile phones (including the forbidden use for children between the ages of about 5 and 11) in the USA, Motorola signed a multi-million dollar contract with Disney to provide mobile phones to a similar age bracket. If anyone has any doubts on the dangers of mobile phone emissions from either base station towers or the phones themselves, speak to any armed forces communications officer. In New York city, they have been removing trasmission antennae from residential apartment blocks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health Ironically removing phone towers means that mobiles then have to use more power to communicate with them. Better to have many lower power towers... More dangerous is the likelihood of someone running into you in their car while talking on their mobile phone! I carry a mobile phone for emergencies and NEVER leave it switched on next to my body for long periods. It's also not hard to find recent statistics on the number of car accidents caused by using phones whilst driving as compared to the benefits of having a mobile in a dangerous situation. I'd guess that you don't use wireless internet either? Or mains power 240V at 50Hz? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_radiation_and_health#powertransmission Have fun, Shay (living dangerously) -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Barry Sexstone wrote: I didn't actually ask for a health report. It did, however, seem to me that you yourself gave a version of one. Cheers Paul -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I appreciate this information Phillip, thanks. Wendy __ Wendy Austin Mauritius Island On 15 Jul 2008, at 19:04, Phillip Arena wrote: Mobile phone companies simply brush off the dangers of mobile phones, but they are a health hazard - do your own research and you'll find enough evidence to alarm you. I have been concerned for various emissions such as electromagnetic radiation and those from telecommunication installations for more than 15 years - there's plenty of material there to help us make an informed choice; etc -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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With so many people showing an interest in getting an iPhone is there someone with an old unlocked phone they have replaced. I am looking for something for one of my Grandchildren who tends to destroy phones with great regularity so it needs to be reasonably cheap. Bells and whistles are not required but it must pass the not daggy test. Also should be unlocked so current Vodaphone SIM card can be used. Thanks Barry -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
