Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Thing about this software on MPB is that the software looks at the hdd temp, which rarely gets above 35deg with the fan running at 1000rpm, cpu temps climb a little bit, but the speed doesnt increase as temp increases as the hdd temp stays fairly similar suffice to say its probably being removed (the software that is) On 14/05/2011, at 11:42 AM, Ashley Mulder wrote: Just installed on my macbook pro 5,1 with no HDD fan, the software controls my right fan (as reported by istat menus) left is running at normal 2000rpm, while right is running at 1000rpm as set by the software threshold limits will tell me soon enough if this causes my MBP to run hot, as the right fan should kick into 6000rpm mode at about 50deg should be interesting to see how this goes running at ambientalready noticed a minor noise drop will test when running graphics intensive stuff to see how well it responds Ash -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Ashley Mulder BSc (Forensic and Analytical Chemistry) | (Forensic Science Hons.) PhD Student (Chemistry) Department of Chemistry Curtin University ashley.mul...@student.curtin.edu.au a.mul...@curtin.edu.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :) Kind regards Daniel On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more control over what goes in their hardware? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :) Kind regards Daniel On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
They want the imac buyers to be on a similar upgrade cycle to the iOS buyer ;) Or provides a new revenue stream for the Apple Genius bar! Cheers Rod On May 13, 2011 9:05 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more control over what goes in their hardware? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :) Kind regards Daniel On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam’s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Hi Ronni I'd say yes to the first. The second I can't see what difference it would make to them. Normally a hard drive is a hard drive (I know there are differences between them with models and specs and speeds and features), so I don't really understand this one. I can't see what impact it would have to Apple what goes in it. I mean, if someone tries to install a hard drive themselves and doesn't follow all the Correct procedures and fries something then goes off about Apple gear, then sure I'd understand. But if the likes of a service centre or qualified repairer is doing it, surely they should be allowed the option to say ,...well, it's out of warranty so here are your options to replace the drive. And sometimes you don't always buy the best of a machine up front you get what you can afford for now and might add or change it in a year or so. Plus technologies change - so you might start with a 1TB drive now and get a 3TB drive when they're cheaper (or a 4TB drive when it comes out.). Again, this is just a hard drive so it shouldn't have an affect on the overall performance of the machine. Or the internal components. And what has changed so much from the pervious version iMac to the new iMac that they've now said,..yep we need to change the way the hard drive does this and stop after market upgrades. Will be interesting to see what more unfolds from this I'm guessing your reply came in the ads for 'the pies' :oP hehehe :) Kind regards Daniel On 13/5/11 9:01 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote: Are Apple becoming 'Greedy' chasing the dollar ... Or just wanting more control over what goes in their hardware? Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 13/05/2011, at 8:27 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Well yes, apart from that Mr Smartie :P lol :) Kind regards Daniel On 13/5/11 7:29 PM, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-part y- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Someone will always come with an answer http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/13/hdd-fan-control-software-addresses-imac-hard-drive-replacement-i/ Cheers Pedro Sent from my iPad On 13/05/2011, at 19:29, Rod Lavington rodl...@gmail.com wrote: Easy answer - $$$ :) Seeya Rod On 13 May 2011 18:14, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: On 13/5/11 6:35 AM, Rod Blitvich rb...@iinet.net.au wrote: http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/12/owc-replacing-main-hard-drive-with-third-party- is-not-an-option/ OWC: Replacing main hard drive with third party is not an option in new iMacs by Megan Lavey-Heaton (RSS feed) on May 12th, 2011 The folks over at Other World Computing, best known for providing affordable upgrades for your Mac, delivered some bad news regarding installing a third party hard drive in the new Sandy Bridge iMacs. Apparently Apple altered the SATA power connector in such a way that removing the hard drive from the system -- or even the bay it resides -- will cause the hard drive fan to spin at maximum speed. Even further, placing any third party drive in the machine results in the iMac failing the Apple Hardware Test, even if that drive was replaced with the same model that the iMac is shipped with. Apple seems to be specifically disallowing hard drives they don't approve of, locking new iMac owners into AppleCare in case something happens to the hard drive within the first three years or using an Apple-authorized repair center. We've touted the virtues of AppleCare many times. However, a good many tend keep their iMacs much longer than three years, and a hard drive is guaranteed to eventually fail. But since upgrading the current iMacs involve removing the screen, even thoughiFixIt says it is fairly easy to access the internal drive, I wouldn't want to go near that anyhow, and neither would your average custom Rod Blitvich - Amy Sam¹s Dad Yes, been following that once since saw it the other day. I'm not sure why they would do that. It does really close it off from other brands and options. Not necessarily at the time of purchase (though some are saying that's true too as Apple don't do options for larger SSD drives eg 480GB, 512GB SSD), but also later down the track. What if you buy a 1TB drive then a year down the track the drive dies (or you want to upgrade) for a larger drive. You're then stuck with buying what Apple offer you (Which sometimes is dearer then other brands or places). eg, even at the moment Apple don't offer a 3TB drive, yet you can buy this as Western Digital (and others make them). This has certainly gained a lot of momentum on some of the forums I've been reading. With lots of people hoping someone will bring out a hack or something for it. I just don't quite follow the reasoning for it. You've previously been able to change or upgrade the Hard Drive in iMac's with whatever drive you wanted, it didn't have to come from Apple. So why change it now. This seems to be happening more and more of late with certain things that Apple are doing. Look at iPad 2's for example. Why do the Apple Stores get a lot of iPad's (eg Apple Perth in Hay Street) yet the Apple resellers get minimum (or no) stock. (I was going to go on a bit more detail,..but think I'll just leave it at that without starting a flame war,...getting into trouble,..or,..well whatever may start from it,...lol). I just don't get it. Maybe I'm missing something, or not seeing some big picture or live in my own little world too much,..lol. Just my 2cents worth. I'm sure others may agree or disagree with me,... :o)) Kind regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Can't replace HD in new iMacs?
Just installed on my macbook pro 5,1 with no HDD fan, the software controls my right fan (as reported by istat menus) left is running at normal 2000rpm, while right is running at 1000rpm as set by the software threshold limits will tell me soon enough if this causes my MBP to run hot, as the right fan should kick into 6000rpm mode at about 50deg should be interesting to see how this goes running at ambientalready noticed a minor noise drop will test when running graphics intensive stuff to see how well it responds Ash On 14/05/2011, at 9:58 AM, Pedro wrote: Someone will always come with an answer http://www.tuaw.com/2011/05/13/hdd-fan-control-software-addresses-imac-hard-drive-replacement-i/ Cheers Pedro Sent from my iPad Ashley Mulder BSc (Forensic and Analytical Chemistry) | (Forensic Science Hons.) PhD Student (Chemistry) Department of Chemistry Curtin University ashley.mul...@student.curtin.edu.au a.mul...@curtin.edu.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
