Re: Computer name

[F.W. Hänel]

Hi Stuart,

Thanks for the explanation.
I'll leave the router alone.

Cheers,

Walter
On 11/10/2009, at 4:21 , Stuart Evans wrote:


Hi Walter,

There won’t be any problems with this. DHCP just assigns an IP  
address to a computer when it requests one. It uses the MAC address  
to assign it and if computer name is provided in the requests packet  
it puts that into the computer name field. It can also be used with  
DHCP Client Id. If the computer has a previous lease then the DHCP  
server gives it back the same IP address. If you have a power outage  
it loses all settings. The modem doesn’t use these settings for  
lookup so it won’t cause an issue. Generally modems don’t pick up  
Mac computer names, however if you are running Windows in Parallels  
(or Fusion or VirtualBox or Bootcamp), then it will pick up the  
name. Remember your Mac can have 4 separate MAC addresses if you are  
running a Virtual Machine, one native Ethernet, one native Airport,  
and same again under the VM.


Regards,
Stuart

Stuart Evans
T4 Technology

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On 11/10/09 12:00 PM, "F.W. Hänel"  wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Just another query on the same subject.
>
> I had a look in the DHCP clients list in my router. The iMac I am
> using is listed without a name but
> with the correct IP + MAC address (matches the network screen in  
syst/

> preferences) 10.1.1.5
> But there is also a second entry (in the DHCP list)  with the name
> iMac-intel-2 and this has a different
> IP + MAC address from the one in network/preferences (10.1.1.8)
>
> The other users in the DHCP list are all assigned to the correct
> devices - there is no mixup here.
>
> Can this cause problems for other users within the network ?
>
> iMac intel, SL, Belkin-Ozemail router.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Walter
>
> Can this
> On 11/10/2009, at 9:02 , Neil Houghton wrote:
>
>>
>> Hehe - thanks for that - very good timing.
>>
>> I had just re-set-up my MacBook Pro and migrated over from my  
iMac -

>> I would
>> have been very confused if I had tried to share and only found  
iMacs

>> 1 & 2
>> on the network!!
>>
>> Now renamed - so the poor confused machine knows it's a MacBook  
again!

>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Neil
>> --
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>>
>> on 8/10/09 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to  
your

>>> "current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.
>>>
>>> For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called
>>> DKMacBookPro and I
>>> cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the  
wireless

>>> network
>>> to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as
>>> well, ie
>>> DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers
>>> on the
>>> same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).
>>>
>>> This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting  
forward

>>> that
>>> information so people know as well. ;O)
>>>
>>> But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different
>>> networks but
>>> the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come
>>> from a
>>> router reboot or something similar where the Network things that
>>> the old
>>> name "is still there", so resets it again.
>>>
>>> There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set,
>>> but as
>>> mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google
>>> somewhere, so
>>> would need to refind it if anyone wanted.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>>
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
>>>

 Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
 actually updating the clone.
 I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
 I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when  
the
 clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting  
the

 clone.

 Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
 computer with the same name on the Network.

 Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)

 Cheers,
 Ronni


 On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:

>
> Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone  
on

> an
> external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
> actually updating the clone.
> Severin
>
> On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Severin,
>>
>> Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
>> ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this  
house

>> connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.
>>
>> When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences >
>> Sharing,
>> did you click on the "Ed

Re: Computer name

[Stuart Evans]

Hi Walter,

There won¹t be any problems with this. DHCP just assigns an IP address to a
computer when it requests one. It uses the MAC address to assign it and if
computer name is provided in the requests packet it puts that into the
computer name field. It can also be used with DHCP Client Id. If the
computer has a previous lease then the DHCP server gives it back the same IP
address. If you have a power outage it loses all settings. The modem doesn¹t
use these settings for lookup so it won¹t cause an issue. Generally modems
don¹t pick up Mac computer names, however if you are running Windows in
Parallels (or Fusion or VirtualBox or Bootcamp), then it will pick up the
name. Remember your Mac can have 4 separate MAC addresses if you are running
a Virtual Machine, one native Ethernet, one native Airport, and same again
under the VM.

Regards,
Stuart

Stuart Evans
T4 Technology

PLEASE CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENT BEFORE YOU PRINT THIS E-MAIL
 


On 11/10/09 12:00 PM, "F.W. Hänel"  wrote:

> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Just another query on the same subject.
> 
> I had a look in the DHCP clients list in my router. The iMac I am
> using is listed without a name but
> with the correct IP + MAC address (matches the network screen in syst/
> preferences) 10.1.1.5
> But there is also a second entry (in the DHCP list)  with the name
> iMac-intel-2 and this has a different
> IP + MAC address from the one in network/preferences (10.1.1.8)
> 
> The other users in the DHCP list are all assigned to the correct
> devices - there is no mixup here.
> 
> Can this cause problems for other users within the network ?
> 
> iMac intel, SL, Belkin-Ozemail router.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Walter
> 
> Can this
> On 11/10/2009, at 9:02 , Neil Houghton wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hehe - thanks for that - very good timing.
>> 
>> I had just re-set-up my MacBook Pro and migrated over from my iMac -
>> I would
>> have been very confused if I had tried to share and only found iMacs
>> 1 & 2
>> on the network!!
>> 
>> Now renamed - so the poor confused machine knows it's a MacBook again!
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> on 8/10/09 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to your
>>> "current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.
>>> 
>>> For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called
>>> DKMacBookPro and I
>>> cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the wireless
>>> network
>>> to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as
>>> well, ie
>>> DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers
>>> on the
>>> same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).
>>> 
>>> This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting forward
>>> that
>>> information so people know as well. ;O)
>>> 
>>> But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different
>>> networks but
>>> the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come
>>> from a
>>> router reboot or something similar where the Network things that
>>> the old
>>> name "is still there", so resets it again.
>>> 
>>> There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set,
>>> but as
>>> mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google
>>> somewhere, so
>>> would need to refind it if anyone wanted.
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps a little.
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
>>> 
 
 Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
 actually updating the clone.
 I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
 I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the
 clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the
 clone.
 
 Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
 computer with the same name on the Network.
 
 Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 
 On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
> 
> Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on
> an
> external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
> actually updating the clone.
> Severin
> 
> On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Severin,
>> 
>> Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
>> ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house
>> connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.
>> 
>> When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences >
>> Sharing,
>> did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?
>> 
>> My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it
>> is
>> Rons-500GB-HD.lo

Re: Computer name

[F.W. Hänel]

Hello all,

Just another query on the same subject.

I had a look in the DHCP clients list in my router. The iMac I am  
using is listed without a name but
with the correct IP + MAC address (matches the network screen in syst/ 
preferences) 10.1.1.5
But there is also a second entry (in the DHCP list)  with the name  
iMac-intel-2 and this has a different

IP + MAC address from the one in network/preferences (10.1.1.8)

The other users in the DHCP list are all assigned to the correct  
devices - there is no mixup here.


Can this cause problems for other users within the network ?

iMac intel, SL, Belkin-Ozemail router.

Cheers,

Walter

Can this
On 11/10/2009, at 9:02 , Neil Houghton wrote:



Hehe - thanks for that - very good timing.

I had just re-set-up my MacBook Pro and migrated over from my iMac -  
I would
have been very confused if I had tried to share and only found iMacs  
1 & 2

on the network!!

Now renamed - so the poor confused machine knows it's a MacBook again!


Cheers


Neil
--
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

on 8/10/09 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:



Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to your
"current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.

For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called  
DKMacBookPro and I
cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the wireless  
network
to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as  
well, ie
DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers  
on the

same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).

This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting forward  
that

information so people know as well. ;O)

But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different  
networks but
the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come  
from a
router reboot or something similar where the Network things that  
the old

name "is still there", so resets it again.

There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set,  
but as
mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google  
somewhere, so

would need to refind it if anyone wanted.

Hope that helps a little.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:



Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
actually updating the clone.
I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the
clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the
clone.

Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
computer with the same name on the Network.

Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni


On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on  
an

external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
actually updating the clone.
Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Severin,

Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house
connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.

When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences >  
Sharing,

did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?

My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it  
is

Rons-500GB-HD.local

When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer
Name: changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as
Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local  
and

voilà the (2) was no longer.

The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had
my SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with  
the

same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with
the same name on your Network … it changes one?

I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to
be able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate
second best option :)"

When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I
can get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router
and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop  
communicates

wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D-
Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on
the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which
is plugged in to the USB port

Re: Computer name

[Neil Houghton]

Hehe - thanks for that - very good timing.

I had just re-set-up my MacBook Pro and migrated over from my iMac - I would
have been very confused if I had tried to share and only found iMacs 1 & 2
on the network!!

Now renamed - so the poor confused machine knows it's a MacBook again!


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com

on 8/10/09 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr at wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

> 
> Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to your
> "current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.
> 
> For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called DKMacBookPro and I
> cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the wireless network
> to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as well, ie
> DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers on the
> same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).
> 
> This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting forward that
> information so people know as well. ;O)
> 
> But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different networks but
> the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come from a
> router reboot or something similar where the Network things that the old
> name "is still there", so resets it again.
> 
> There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set, but as
> mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google somewhere, so
> would need to refind it if anyone wanted.
> 
> Hope that helps a little.
> 
> Kind Regards
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
>> actually updating the clone.
>> I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
>> I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the
>> clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the
>> clone.
>> 
>> Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
>> computer with the same name on the Network.
>> 
>> Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 
>> On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on an
>>> external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
>>> actually updating the clone.
>>> Severin
>>> 
>>> On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>>> 
 
 Hi Severin,
 
 Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
 ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house
 connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.
 
 When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,
 did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?
 
 My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is
 Rons-500GB-HD.local
 
 When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
 I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer
 Name: changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
 It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as
 Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
 So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and
 voilà the (2) was no longer.
 
 The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had
 my SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
 I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the
 same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with
 the same name on your Network Š it changes one?
 
 I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
 Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to
 be able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate
 second best option :)"
 
 When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I
 can get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
 
> 
> That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
> On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router
> and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates
> wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D-
> Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on
> the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which
> is plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not
> done any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
> Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still
> comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect
> as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very
> curious, no real drama, just 

Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

Nothing worries me these days!
Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 6:06 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

Don't worry Severin I was only joking. Sometimes a script could be  
run & terminal notices it & the login happens. No one has launched  
Terminal.

Sorry if I caused you worry

Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 09/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, Severin Crisp   
wrote:




It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin



Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 09/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, Severin Crisp   
wrote:




It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check  
the Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[David Moyle]

Evening,

The reason to this was the system is used, (NetInfo or dscl) is no  
longer utilised.


It is possible, just not sure how in Leopard/Snow Leopard. I'm sure a  
script could be found. :)


Cheers,

David Moyle
Systems Technician
Apple, Windows, Cisco
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On 09/10/2009, at 6:21 PM, Peder Kristensen wrote:



Further to the ShortName it does not work in Leopard, see link
http://www.macworld.com/article/132693/2008/03/ 
changeshortusername.html

"Changing the short username in Leopard
by Dan Frakes, Macworld.com
One of the most-frequently-asked questions about Mac OS X is “How do  
I change my short username?” While it's easy to change your full  
username—an easily-accessible setting in Accounts preferences—the  
short username, which is also the name of your home folder in the  
Finder, seems set in stone (or in silicon, if you will).”


That may be what your are after.

Cheers,
Peder




On 09/10/2009, at 18:15 PM, Peder Kristensen wrote:



Hi All,

I don’t know if this app would be of help to change the Short User  
Name, see link http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/49930

"Product Description:
One of the most common questions users of Mac OS X ask is "How do I  
change my short username?" Although OS X provides a simple  
interface -- the Accounts pane of System Preferences -- for  
changing a user's long name, there's been no easy way to change the  
short name of an account once it is created. …"


I have used it with success, but it was on a Tiger system. But as  
alway backup the system before making major changes. The Computer  
Name can be changed via System Preferences Sharing option.


Cheers,
Peder

On 09/10/2009, at 17:00 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by  
noting that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each  
day.  Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and  
three small children were staying and I may in fact have manually  
started the computer early but have no recollection of doing so,  
in any case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only  
other possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless  
network from his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.   
Tilly the cat is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I  
just can not see her getting that key combination right, in any  
case she was hiding in timid fear from the little children in the  
house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check  
the Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious -  
I cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was  
Tilly doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Peder Kristensen]

Further to the ShortName it does not work in Leopard, see link
http://www.macworld.com/article/132693/2008/03/changeshortusername.html
"Changing the short username in Leopard
by Dan Frakes, Macworld.com
One of the most-frequently-asked questions about Mac OS X is “How do I  
change my short username?” While it's easy to change your full username 
—an easily-accessible setting in Accounts preferences—the short  
username, which is also the name of your home folder in the Finder,  
seems set in stone (or in silicon, if you will).”


That may be what your are after.

Cheers,
Peder




On 09/10/2009, at 18:15 PM, Peder Kristensen wrote:



Hi All,

I don’t know if this app would be of help to change the Short User  
Name, see link http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/49930

"Product Description:
One of the most common questions users of Mac OS X ask is "How do I  
change my short username?" Although OS X provides a simple interface  
-- the Accounts pane of System Preferences -- for changing a user's  
long name, there's been no easy way to change the short name of an  
account once it is created. …"


I have used it with success, but it was on a Tiger system. But as  
alway backup the system before making major changes. The Computer  
Name can be changed via System Preferences Sharing option.


Cheers,
Peder

On 09/10/2009, at 17:00 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check  
the Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Peder Kristensen]

Hi All,

I don’t know if this app would be of help to change the Short User  
Name, see link http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/49930

"Product Description:
One of the most common questions users of Mac OS X ask is "How do I  
change my short username?" Although OS X provides a simple interface  
-- the Accounts pane of System Preferences -- for changing a user's  
long name, there's been no easy way to change the short name of an  
account once it is created. …"


I have used it with success, but it was on a Tiger system. But as  
alway backup the system before making major changes. The Computer Name  
can be changed via System Preferences Sharing option.


Cheers,
Peder

On 09/10/2009, at 17:00 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check  
the Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

Don't worry Severin I was only joking. Sometimes a script could be run  
& terminal notices it & the login happens. No one has launched Terminal.

Sorry if I caused you worry

Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 09/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, Severin Crisp   
wrote:




It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin



Sent from Ronni's iPhone

On 09/10/2009, at 5:00 PM, Severin Crisp   
wrote:




It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three  
small children were staying and I may in fact have manually started  
the computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any  
case, no way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other  
possibility would be my son logging on to my wireless network from  
his laptop but surely that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat  
is in the clear, though she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see  
her getting that key combination right, in any case she was hiding  
in timid fear from the little children in the house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check  
the Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

It is real mystery and I did not seek to muddy the waters by noting  
that my computer normally starts itself at 08:40:00 each day.   
Reference to my calendar shows that on that day my son and three small  
children were staying and I may in fact have manually started the  
computer early but have no recollection of doing so, in any case, no  
way would I have gone near Terminal!  The only other possibility would  
be my son logging on to my wireless network from his laptop but surely  
that would not start Terminal.  Tilly the cat is in the clear, though  
she is a brilliant cat, I just can not see her getting that key  
combination right, in any case she was hiding in timid fear from the  
little children in the house!

Severin

On 09/10/2009, at 4:44 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check the  
Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

On 09/10/2009, at 2:58 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check the  
Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Someone opened Terminal on Sat Sep 26 08:36:07  ... what was Tilly  
doing at that time?


Cheers,
Ronni





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Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

Interesting stuff Ronni.   I have no wish or desire to become  
embroiled in Terminal but started it up as you suggest to check the  
Computer name.  Here is what I got


Last login: Sat Sep 26 08:36:07 on console
SevsG5:~ sev$

The name is correct but the last (recent) login is mysterious - I  
cannot remember opening Terminal before.


Severin

 On 09/10/2009, at 2:36 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set,  
but as
mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google  
somewhere, so

would need to refind it if anyone wanted.


Ok Daniel, you got me curious, so I have been "fiddling" around in  
Terminal (after doing some reading on Terminal from my many books).
Now, I DON'T recommend people "fiddle" around in Terminal,  
especially if you don't know what you are doing.
WARNING: Please don't attempt this until someone much more  
knowledgeable than I, confirms that this is safe and does work.

Ronni is certainly NOT a Terminal Guru!

Now the legalities of this post are over with, this is what I did:

When you Launch Terminal,  the default shell "Bash" will present the  
last login time, followed by the command prompt.
This is formatted to show the computer's name, followed by the  
current directory and then a dollar sign.
Depending on the system and network configuration, the computer's  
name may change.


My hostname is "Rons-500GB-HD" (without the quotes)
The computer's host name is the one you type in the "Sharing" system  
preferences, and while a change in the hostname should not affect  
the performance of the machine, it is nice to have it be consistent.
The first thing I tried is to use the "hostname" command to change  
the hostname:


1. Launch Terminal

2. I typed sudo hostname TEST

3. Hit Return

4. Typed  my password

5. Hit Enter

Then Quit Terminal and logged in again to see the change had taken  
place.

Yes, it had.

So then I moved on to changing it back to Rons 500GB HD which is the  
one I want to keep from changing.


As Daniel has previously said, the hostname can be changed  
dynamically by routers and other network devices through DHCP  
requests, which can have the hostname keep changing every time your  
IP address and other DHCP information is renewed.
If this is the case, you may be able to set the router to never  
provide hostname information, or you can set the computer to never  
accept a hostname change.


To do this, you will need to add a line to the computer's hostconfig  
file using the following procedure:


1.  Open the Terminal

2.  Enter the following command:

   sudo pico /etc/hostconfig

	3.	Authenticate, scroll to the bottom of the file, and add the  
following line:


   HOSTNAME=Rons-500GB-HD

(Change "Rons-500GB-HD" to your desired hostname--no spaces)

	4. Save the file and quit by pressing control-X, confirming the  
save with the "Y" key  followed by "enter".


   5. Quit Terminal

After this has been added to the file, the computer's hostname  
should not change even when you renew your DHCP lease.


This is yet to be confirmed ... I await in trembling anticipation of  
Daniel's reply ... or any other of our Terminal Gurus ;-)
My MacBook Pro has not "blown up", Rons 500GB HD is showing in  
Sharing and in Terminal ... and I'm still connected to the Internet.


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

On 08/10/2009, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set, but  
as
mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google  
somewhere, so

would need to refind it if anyone wanted.


Ok Daniel, you got me curious, so I have been "fiddling" around in  
Terminal (after doing some reading on Terminal from my many books).
Now, I DON'T recommend people "fiddle" around in Terminal, especially  
if you don't know what you are doing.
WARNING: Please don't attempt this until someone much more  
knowledgeable than I, confirms that this is safe and does work.

Ronni is certainly NOT a Terminal Guru!

Now the legalities of this post are over with, this is what I did:

When you Launch Terminal,  the default shell "Bash" will present the  
last login time, followed by the command prompt.
This is formatted to show the computer's name, followed by the current  
directory and then a dollar sign.
Depending on the system and network configuration, the computer's name  
may change.


My hostname is "Rons-500GB-HD" (without the quotes)
The computer's host name is the one you type in the "Sharing" system  
preferences, and while a change in the hostname should not affect the  
performance of the machine, it is nice to have it be consistent.
The first thing I tried is to use the "hostname" command to change the  
hostname:


1. Launch Terminal

2. I typed sudo hostname TEST

3. Hit Return

4. Typed  my password

5. Hit Enter

Then Quit Terminal and logged in again to see the change had taken  
place.

Yes, it had.

So then I moved on to changing it back to Rons 500GB HD which is the  
one I want to keep from changing.


As Daniel has previously said, the hostname can be changed dynamically  
by routers and other network devices through DHCP requests, which can  
have the hostname keep changing every time your IP address and other  
DHCP information is renewed.
If this is the case, you may be able to set the router to never  
provide hostname information, or you can set the computer to never  
accept a hostname change.


To do this, you will need to add a line to the computer's hostconfig  
file using the following procedure:


1.  Open the Terminal

2.  Enter the following command:

sudo pico /etc/hostconfig

	3.	Authenticate, scroll to the bottom of the file, and add the  
following line:


HOSTNAME=Rons-500GB-HD

(Change "Rons-500GB-HD" to your desired hostname--no spaces)

	4. Save the file and quit by pressing control-X, confirming the  
save with the "Y" key  followed by "enter".


5. Quit Terminal

After this has been added to the file, the computer's hostname should  
not change even when you renew your DHCP lease.


This is yet to be confirmed ... I await in trembling anticipation of  
Daniel's reply ... or any other of our Terminal Gurus ;-)
My MacBook Pro has not "blown up", Rons 500GB HD is showing in Sharing  
and in Terminal ... and I'm still connected to the Internet.


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

That may be a clue, Daniel.  Periodically but rarely, like every few  
months, for no obvious reason, I have to reboot either the router or  
the Airport Extreme.  I always put it down to a power glitch or act of  
God though no obvious evidence of either!   I will keep a lookout for  
the next time this happens.

Thanks for the input
Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 9:26 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote:



Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to your
"current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.

For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called  
DKMacBookPro and I
cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the wireless  
network
to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as  
well, ie
DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers  
on the

same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).

This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting forward  
that

information so people know as well. ;O)

But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different  
networks but
the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come  
from a
router reboot or something similar where the Network things that the  
old

name "is still there", so resets it again.

There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set, but  
as
mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google  
somewhere, so

would need to refind it if anyone wanted.

Hope that helps a little.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:



Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
actually updating the clone.
I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the
clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the
clone.

Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
computer with the same name on the Network.

Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni


On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on an
external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
actually updating the clone.
Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Severin,

Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house
connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.

When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,
did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?

My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is
Rons-500GB-HD.local

When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer
Name: changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as
Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and
voilà the (2) was no longer.

The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had
my SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the
same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with
the same name on your Network … it changes one?

I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to
be able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate
second best option :)"

When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I
can get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router
and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates
wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D-
Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on
the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which
is plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not
done any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still
comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect
as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very
curious, no real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!
Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and
the accompanying message tells me that other users can connect
using  Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by
itself no longer works.
What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

Th

Re: Computer name

[Daniel Kerr]

Also, if you've ever done a "Migration" from another machine to your
"current machine", then the Network name will follow as well.

For example. If I had my old MacBookPro and it was called DKMacBookPro and I
cloned this to my new MacBookPro, then connected it to the wireless network
to run updates, the new machine would then have the same name as well, ie
DKMacBookPro. So what it has to do (as it can't have two computers on the
same network), so it renames it to DKMacBookPro (2).

This doesn't sound like the case here, but I'm just putting forward that
information so people know as well. ;O)

But yes, it's normally with multiple connections on different networks but
the same machine (eg Airport and Ethernet). It can sometimes come from a
router reboot or something similar where the Network things that the old
name "is still there", so resets it again.

There was a way to reset it via Terminal with a "permanent" set, but as
mentioned you had to do that in Terminal. I found it on google somewhere, so
would need to refind it if anyone wanted.

Hope that helps a little.

Kind Regards
Daniel


On 8/10/09 4:41 PM, "Ronda Brown"  wrote:

> 
> Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm
> actually updating the clone.
> I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
> I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the
> clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the
> clone.
> 
> Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one
> computer with the same name on the Network.
> 
> Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 
> On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on an
>> external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am
>> actually updating the clone.
>> Severin
>> 
>> On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Severin,
>>> 
>>> Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only
>>> ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house
>>> connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.
>>> 
>>> When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,
>>> did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?
>>> 
>>> My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is
>>> Rons-500GB-HD.local
>>> 
>>> When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
>>> I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer
>>> Name: changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
>>> It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as
>>> Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
>>> So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and
>>> voilà the (2) was no longer.
>>> 
>>> The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had
>>> my SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
>>> I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the
>>> same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with
>>> the same name on your Network Š it changes one?
>>> 
>>> I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
>>> Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to
>>> be able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate
>>> second best option :)"
>>> 
>>> When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I
>>> can get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
>>> 
 
 That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
 On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router
 and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates
 wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D-
 Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on
 the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which
 is plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not
 done any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
 Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still
 comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect
 as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very
 curious, no real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!
 Severin
 
 On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:
 
> 
> 
> On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.
>> Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and
>> the accompanying message tells me that other users can connect
>> using  Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by
>> itself no longer works.
>> What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.
> 
> Hi Severin,
> 
> This happens when the sys

Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

Yes, Severin I only have the SuperDuper clone connected when I'm  
actually updating the clone.

I do this weekly, so I'm sure it hasn't changed every time.
I will take notice next time if the computer name changes when the  
clone is connected, and if it stays changed after disconnecting the  
clone.


Something is causing The System to "think" there is more than one  
computer with the same name on the Network.


Ah well, I've got to get back to serious work ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni


On 08/10/2009, at 4:25 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on an  
external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am  
actually updating the clone.

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Severin,

Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only  
ever connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house  
connect wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.


When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,  
did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?


My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is  
Rons-500GB-HD.local


When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer  
Name: changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as  
Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and  
voilà the (2) was no longer.


The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had  
my SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the  
same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with  
the same name on your Network … it changes one?


I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to  
be able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate  
second best option :)"


When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I  
can get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router  
and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates  
wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D- 
Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on  
the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which  
is plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not  
done any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still  
comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect  
as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very  
curious, no real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.   
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and  
the accompanying message tells me that other users can connect  
using  Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by  
itself no longer works.

What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

This happens when the system detects two computers with the same  
name on the same local network.
You can change the computer name and get rid of (5) in system  
preferences->sharing.


I've had it happen to me before. Some people think it happens if  
you have a "Previous Systems" Folder on your HD, others say it  
can happen if you have both Airport and Ethernet connected, or  
switch between them (like unplugging a laptop from Ethernet and  
then using Airport)?


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

Yes, I went via the Edit button.  I do have a SuperDuper clone on an  
external Firewire disk, normally powered off except when I am actually  
updating the clone.

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 4:14 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Severin,

Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only ever  
connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house connect  
wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.


When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,  
did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?


My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is  
Rons-500GB-HD.local


When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer Name:  
changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as  
Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and  
voilà the (2) was no longer.


The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had my  
SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the  
same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with  
the same name on your Network … it changes one?


I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to be  
able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate second  
best option :)"


When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I can  
get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.
On the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router  
and an installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates  
wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D- 
Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on  
the router while all three computers access a Laser printer which  
is plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not  
done any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still  
comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect  
as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very  
curious, no real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.   
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and  
the accompanying message tells me that other users can connect  
using  Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by  
itself no longer works.

What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

This happens when the system detects two computers with the same  
name on the same local network.
You can change the computer name and get rid of (5) in system  
preferences->sharing.


I've had it happen to me before. Some people think it happens if  
you have a "Previous Systems" Folder on your HD, others say it can  
happen if you have both Airport and Ethernet connected, or switch  
between them (like unplugging a laptop from Ethernet and then  
using Airport)?


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Severin,

Same with me I didn't have a "Previous Systems" Folder and only ever  
connect by Airport, all computers that connect in this house connect  
wirelessly, never by direct Ethernet connection.


When you changed the Computer Name in System Preferences > Sharing,  
did you click on the "Edit" button to change the -2.local?


My Computer's Name is Rons 500GB HD & beside the Edit section it is  
Rons-500GB-HD.local


When I noticed it had changed to Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
I just went into System Preferences > Sharing  and in Computer Name:  
changed it back to Rons 500GB HD.
It was listed as Rons-500GB-HD-2 or (2) and in the edit section as  
Rons-500GB-HD-2.local
So I just clicked on "Edit" & changed it to Rons-500GB-HD.local and  
voilà the (2) was no longer.


The only reason I can think might have caused this is after I had my  
SuperDuper "Cloned" Rons 500GB HD connected.
I wonder if the system then thinks there are TWO computers with the  
same name on my Network, and as you cannot have any computers with the  
same name on your Network … it changes one?


I hate it when I cannot find the exact reason why!
Our President Peter H once said to me & I quote ... "It's nice to be  
able to find an exact cause, but resolution is an adequate second best  
option :)"


When I find some time, I'll do some fiddling around and see if I can  
get it to happen again  ... I want to find an exact cause ;-)


Cheers,
Ronni

On 08/10/2009, at 3:21 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.   On  
the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router and an  
installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates  
wirelessly via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D- 
Link ethernet router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on the  
router while all three computers access a Laser printer which is  
plugged in to the USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not done  
any plugging in or  unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still  
comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect  
as... "  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very  
curious, no real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.   
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and  
the accompanying message tells me that other users can connect  
using  Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by  
itself no longer works.

What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

This happens when the system detects two computers with the same  
name on the same local network.
You can change the computer name and get rid of (5) in system  
preferences->sharing.


I've had it happen to me before. Some people think it happens if  
you have a "Previous Systems" Folder on your HD, others say it can  
happen if you have both Airport and Ethernet connected, or switch  
between them (like unplugging a laptop from Ethernet and then using  
Airport)?


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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Re: Computer name

[Severin Crisp]

That's interesting Ronni.  I have no "Previous Systems" folder.   On  
the G5 I do have a direct connection via Ethernet to a router and an  
installed Airport but not running.  The laptop communicates wirelessly  
via Airport Extreme which goes into one port of the D-Link ethernet  
router.  A desktop G3 iMac is into another port on the router while  
all three computers access a Laser printer which is plugged in to the  
USB port on the Airport Extreme.  I have not done any plugging in or   
unplugging or swapping that I can recall.
Interestingly, I have changed the name again in Sharing - it still  
comes up as Sevs G5 (5) there but the message  " can connect as...  
"  is now correct as "Sevs G5"  as it was before.   Very curious, no  
real drama, just a little annoyance and puzzlement!

Severin

On 08/10/2009, at 1:55 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:




On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.   
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and the  
accompanying message tells me that other users can connect using   
Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by itself no  
longer works.

What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

This happens when the system detects two computers with the same  
name on the same local network.
You can change the computer name and get rid of (5) in system  
preferences->sharing.


I've had it happen to me before. Some people think it happens if you  
have a "Previous Systems" Folder on your HD, others say it can  
happen if you have both Airport and Ethernet connected, or switch  
between them (like unplugging a laptop from Ethernet and then using  
Airport)?


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: Computer name

[Ronda Brown]

On 08/10/2009, at 1:42 PM, Severin Crisp wrote:



My computer is named "Sevs G5" and has been for a long time.   
Recently, I noticed in Sharing that it is named Sevs G5 (5) and the  
accompanying message tells me that other users can connect using   
Sevs G5-2.local  which proves correct, and Sevs G5 by itself no  
longer works.

What is going on?  Leopard 10.5.8.


Hi Severin,

This happens when the system detects two computers with the same name  
on the same local network.
You can change the computer name and get rid of (5) in system  
preferences->sharing.


I've had it happen to me before. Some people think it happens if you  
have a "Previous Systems" Folder on your HD, others say it can happen  
if you have both Airport and Ethernet connected, or switch between  
them (like unplugging a laptop from Ethernet and then using Airport)?


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



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Re: Computer Name

[Diana & Graham Stevens]

Thanks Greg, so simple! I could not find how to do it in the Help 
File. This is not unusual, I find it mostly unhelpful.


Diana


All you have to do is open "System Preferences" and select "Sharing". You
can change the computers name from that panel.

All the best
Greg Sharp

On 20/12/04 11:57 AM, "Diana & Graham Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Is there a way to change the computer name?

Re: Computer Name

[Greg Sharp]

All you have to do is open "System Preferences" and select "Sharing". You
can change the computers name from that panel.

All the best
Greg Sharp

On 20/12/04 11:57 AM, "Diana & Graham Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Is there a way to change the computer name?
> 
> I reinstalled OSX from the Panther CD, I skipped the registration
> page as I had already registered. The only information I had to
> provide was my name, short name and password. No place for the
> computer name, the default is DIANA-STEVENS-C, which I hate.
> 
> If I had registered Panther again would it have let me name the computer?
> 
> I would reinstall Panther (and update to 10.3.7 again) in order to
> change the name. But I don't want to go back to OS 10.1, which came
> with the G4 Quicksilver, as it installs OS 9 at the same time and I
> want it on a separate partition.
> 
> Diana
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