Re: Personal Web Sharing
On 26/02/2005, at 3:31 PM, Robert Howells wrote: On 26/02/2005, at 2:12 PM, James Devenish wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 12:30:21PM +0800, Robert Howells wrote: But it does need OSX 10.3.5 according to the System Requirements ! Excludes me ! My 10.3.4 is not Broke , so I have not fixed it ! While it is true, as you have stated, that 10.3.4 does not have any financial troubles, versions 10.3.5 through 10.3.8 including many important changes like the following: - Repairs three or four flaws in Safari that allow websites to masquerade as other websites (e.g. impersonate a banking or commerce website). - Solves two problems with the display of web/e-mail graphics and QuickTime that could cause programmes to either crash or give access to remote attackers. - Solves a kernel panic that could occur when dialing or connecting to your ISP via your internal Apple modem or when using an external, wireless USB broadband modem (Apple's words). - Addresses DNS-related slowness in Safari and Mail. - Solves many risks associated with Personal Web Sharing. That is all probably TRUE .. HOWEVER If you have a spare hour or so to spend you could go and peruse various problems other people have experienced with the various updates following 10.3.4 : - Start here : - http://www.macintouch.com/panreader37.html through to :- http://www.macintouch.com/panreader55.html Actually I was going to try out 10.3.8 but the combo download I received was flawed and would not make an Installer. Checksum did not add up ! I have to say that I have applied every MacOS X update as soon as it has been released, and have never experienced any of the symptoms described in either MacInTouch or MacFixit. The only problem I have had is with the latest update (10.3.8) in which the Software Update option doesn't work in the Apple Menu or About This Mac screen. As I seem to be the only one afflicted by this, I can only put it down to a local issue on my computer, and one which I currently don't have the energy to try to resolve. I suspect that an overwhelming number of problems arising from software updates are of this nature. They invariably end up being fixed by deleting some .kext file or re-installing 3rd party utility. I agree with James, though: the benefits of upgrading are generally much greater than leaving well enough alone (otherwise I'd still be using 10.3. Or 7.5.1). -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Peter Hinchliffe wrote: I agree with James, though: the benefits of upgrading are generally much greater than leaving well enough alone (otherwise I'd still be using 10.3. Or 7.5.1). I second that, going from 9.2.2 to 10.2 was like going from dial-up to broadband (we were still on dial-up at the time). What 10 took away in outright speed from 9 it gave back in spades as usability and sophistication. Going from 10.2 to 10.3 was like a processor upgrade! With yet more minor speed boosts since then via Software Update. To me, this breaks the 'rule' set by Micro$oft: software upgrades need hardware upgrades. The usability we still have with our (slightly upgraded) BW G3 is a testament to OSX (and WAMUG;). Cheers Paul -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 25/02/2005
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Tim Law wrote: Hi, I'm having the same problem. I'm running 10.3.8 on an eMac. Following the previous posts in this thread and I have searched for a file called httpd.conf and a folder called httpd or etc with a nil return for any of them. Does this mean something is not installed as it should be?? No, it just means they are invisible files. There is at least 2 ways to get at them. First, if you know exactly where they are you can press SHIFT+APPLE(COMMAND)+G. This is also under the 'Go' menu in the finder. Type in the address ie Library/WebServer/Documents and press enter. httpd.conf lives in private/etc/httpd The other way is for when you do not know where an invisible item is. At the Finder press APPLE+F Search in: Specific places tick your boot drive only. Search for items whose: Visibility: visible and invisible items AND (press the little + to add another criteria) Name is: httpd.conf(or whatever you are looking for.) Now select the httpd folder and press APPLE+I and give yourself ownership of it to allow editing of httpd.conf Back up httpd.conf before making changes(of course!) Back up httpd.conf before making changes(of course!) Back up httpd.conf before making changes(of course!) Then open it by dropping it onto TextEdit and find (APPLE+F) the line: DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/Documents Change it to: DocumentRoot /Users/Tim Berners-Lee/Sites (or whatever your username actually is;) Save it and return the permissions on the httpd folder to how they were before, owned by 'System'. It will now load index.html from your Sites folder when you use: http://localhost/~Tim Berners-Lee/ (or whatever your username actually is;) Now, it might be just me, but this is not 'simple', strong yes, simple no. Admittedly I did not have to install anything, Windoze style, but 'Mums and Dads' would find this too much, too 'fiddly'. Without WAMUG I would have failed to do it at all I imagine. HTH Paul
Re: Personal Web Sharing
On 25/02/2005, at 10:41 PM, Steve Woods wrote: On 25/02/2005, at 10:05 PM, Tim Law wrote: Following the previous posts in this thread and I have searched for a file called httpd.conf and a folder called httpd or etc with a nil return for any of them. The httpd folder lives in /etc , which is hidden by default. To edit httpd.conf, you'll need to use either the command line (Terminal), or an application that can open hidden files. TextWrangler from BareBones software is an excellent tool for this, and it's free! http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml But it does need OSX 10.3.5 according to the System Requirements ! Excludes me ! My 10.3.4 is not Broke , so I have not fixed it ! Bob
Re: Personal Web Sharing
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 12:30:21PM +0800, Robert Howells wrote: But it does need OSX 10.3.5 according to the System Requirements ! Excludes me ! My 10.3.4 is not Broke , so I have not fixed it ! While it is true, as you have stated, that 10.3.4 does not have any financial troubles, versions 10.3.5 through 10.3.8 including many important changes like the following: - Repairs three or four flaws in Safari that allow websites to masquerade as other websites (e.g. impersonate a banking or commerce website). - Solves two problems with the display of web/e-mail graphics and QuickTime that could cause programmes to either crash or give access to remote attackers. - Solves a kernel panic that could occur when dialing or connecting to your ISP via your internal Apple modem or when using an external, wireless USB broadband modem (Apple's words). - Addresses DNS-related slowness in Safari and Mail. - Solves many risks associated with Personal Web Sharing.
Re: Personal Web Sharing
On 26/02/2005, at 10:02 AM, Paul Kitchener wrote: Tim Law wrote: Hi, I'm having the same problem. I'm running 10.3.8 on an eMac. Following the previous posts in this thread and I have searched for a file called httpd.conf and a folder called httpd or etc with a nil return for any of them. Does this mean something is not installed as it should be?? No, it just means they are invisible files. There is at least 2 ways to get at them. First, if you know exactly where they are you can press SHIFT+APPLE(COMMAND)+G. This is also under the 'Go' menu in the finder. Type in the address ie Library/WebServer/Documents and press enter. The other shortcut I find useful is when you an application open e.g. TextEdit. Go to the usual Open... dialog box, then type / . Don't worry, there's no text box to type this in, but then the Go to the folder panel will slide out and you can type the exact file or folder. It's nice in that it tries to anticipate what file it will be i.e. try typing in /e , pause for a second or two, and it autocompletes it as /etc/ . If you goto such a folder in either Finder or Open... dialog, then you can explore its contents, so you really only need to know the top-level hidden folders e.g. etc, usr etc. Quite often these system files will have different, stricter permissions from your Home folder -- thank God, otherwise like with Windoze you'll find all manner of virii and hackers doing funky things with your beloved Mac system. So you might not be able to save it back with TextEdit, but you can certainly Save As... to the desktop then copy it over, and change the permissions back to what they were with the Get Info... command from Finder. Cheers, Glen Low --- pixelglow software | simply brilliant stuff www.pixelglow.com
Re: Personal Web Sharing
On 26/02/2005, at 2:12 PM, James Devenish wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 12:30:21PM +0800, Robert Howells wrote: But it does need OSX 10.3.5 according to the System Requirements ! Excludes me ! My 10.3.4 is not Broke , so I have not fixed it ! While it is true, as you have stated, that 10.3.4 does not have any financial troubles, versions 10.3.5 through 10.3.8 including many important changes like the following: - Repairs three or four flaws in Safari that allow websites to masquerade as other websites (e.g. impersonate a banking or commerce website). - Solves two problems with the display of web/e-mail graphics and QuickTime that could cause programmes to either crash or give access to remote attackers. - Solves a kernel panic that could occur when dialing or connecting to your ISP via your internal Apple modem or when using an external, wireless USB broadband modem (Apple's words). - Addresses DNS-related slowness in Safari and Mail. - Solves many risks associated with Personal Web Sharing. That is all probably TRUE .. HOWEVER If you have a spare hour or so to spend you could go and peruse various problems other people have experienced with the various updates following 10.3.4 : - Start here : - http://www.macintouch.com/panreader37.html through to :- http://www.macintouch.com/panreader55.html Actually I was going to try out 10.3.8 but the combo download I received was flawed and would not make an Installer. Checksum did not add up ! Have fun Bob
Re: Personal Web Sharing
The default apache config file /etc/httpd/httpd.conf directs the server thus: # DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your # documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but # symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations. # DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/Documents I suppose you could edit the config file to point to your home folder or just move your files to the default directory. HTH Rob On 24/02/2005, at 10:50 PM, Paul Kitchener wrote: Hi all Trying to get apache running so I can learn php. I turned on Personal Web Sharing but I cant get it to use the files I have in my ~user/sites folder, namely index.html. It says it will but it doesnt. The address http://localhost/~administrator/ loads a page which ironically has the statement Create your website by changing this page (it's called index.html and it's in the Sites folder in your home folder), no it isnt, my much-poured-over one is;) http://localhost/ loads a similar page. Has anyone struck this? Have I missed something? Cheers Paul(who doesnt know it but the demons of IT have his number;) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Rob Findlay wrote: The default apache config file /etc/httpd/httpd.conf directs the server thus: # DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your # documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but # symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations. # DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/Documents I suppose you could edit the config file to point to your home folder or just move your files to the default directory. HTH Rob Thanks Rob and Shay I thought I had tried both those ideas properly, yesterday was a big one so I think I must have been too fried for accuracy last night. I edited /etc/httpd/httpd.conf again this morning and now it loads the site. Phew. BTW, I'm relatively new to Server scripting and dont want to make the mistake of learning an inapropriate language. Like most of the ones I was taught at TAFE! I know a little SQL already and wish to build a site with a database allowing login and keeping what will initially be a membership list allowing add/remove/edit on that list and possibly bulk emailing from said list. Q. Is php/SQL the go? Cheers all Paul(who has awoken from his dream and is in Fremantle, *not* in IT Hell;)
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Shay Telfer wrote: Q. Is php/SQL the go? Personally I use MySQL and PHP. Definitely a powerful combination, and widely used, so there's lots of docs and tutorials available. If you have to install PHP I'd recommend the precompiled binaries from Mark Liyanage as he's also compiled in some other goodies. http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/php/ Have fun, Shay Yes I installed that last night. I have managed to output Hello World, yay! Thanks folk Paul
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Hi, I'm having the same problem. I'm running 10.3.8 on an eMac. Following the previous posts in this thread and I have searched for a file called httpd.conf and a folder called httpd or etc with a nil return for any of them. Does this mean something is not installed as it should be?? I've put my own index.html file into Library/WebServer/Documents but still get the default Apache page when I click on http://localhost/ in the System Preferences Sharing screen. Same goes when I put my own index.html page in the sites folder. When I click refresh at http://localhost/ in my browser I get a denied access error page 403. Yes, I've turned on Personal Web Sharing. I'm running broadband through Highway1 with a fixed IP address and had hoped to be able to serve my website from my eMac. Thanks Tim on 24/2/05 11:24 PM, Rob Findlay at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The default apache config file /etc/httpd/httpd.conf directs the server thus: # DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your # documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but # symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations. # DocumentRoot /Library/WebServer/Documents I suppose you could edit the config file to point to your home folder or just move your files to the default directory. HTH Rob On 24/02/2005, at 10:50 PM, Paul Kitchener wrote: Hi all Trying to get apache running so I can learn php. I turned on Personal Web Sharing but I cant get it to use the files I have in my ~user/sites folder, namely index.html. It says it will but it doesnt. The address http://localhost/~administrator/ loads a page which ironically has the statement Create your website by changing this page (it's called index.html and it's in the Sites folder in your home folder), no it isnt, my much-poured-over one is;) http://localhost/ loads a similar page. Has anyone struck this? Have I missed something? Cheers Paul(who doesnt know it but the demons of IT have his number;) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] WAMUG is powered by Stalker CommuniGatePro
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Hi all Trying to get apache running so I can learn php. I turned on Personal Web Sharing but I cant get it to use the files I have in my ~user/sites folder, namely index.html. It says it will but it doesnt. The address http://localhost/~administrator/ loads a page which ironically has the statement Create your website by changing this page (it's called index.html and it's in the Sites folder in your home folder), no it isnt, my much-poured-over one is;) Are you sure you've got the right user? Reloaded the page? Not using a proxy? http://localhost/ loads a similar page. That will be loading a page from /Library/WebServer/Documents Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Team Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2005 World Solar Challenge http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Personal Web Sharing - Solved
Many thanks to David Watkins who found a solution to the problem I was having re-activating personal web sharing (see below). The problem was occurring to to an erroneous ? Making it's way into the httpd.conf file while I was editing it. As suggested by David, to check the configuration enter httpd -t in terminal, which gave me a line number on which the error could be found. Cheers! Callum Hi all, I'm having trouble reactivating Web Sharing. While trying to fix my constant (and sadly, still current) unexpected quitting problem we reinstalled Panther and ran through the updates again. I've been going through getting my system back the way I like it, but seem unable to turn on Personal Web Sharing again (System Preferences Sharing Services - Personal Web Sharing). After selecting it and clicking start a Web Sharing starting up message appears, Personal Web Sharing greys out, and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? 10.3.3 Dual 1Ghz G4, 768 Mb DDR SDRAM, 40Gb free space.
Re: Personal Web Sharing
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sat, Apr 10, 2004 at 10:52:51AM +0800, Callum Prior wrote: After selecting it and clicking start a Web Sharing starting up message appears, Personal Web Sharing greys out, and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? Although I've never used X's personal web sharing, I would hasten to guess that the details of the failure will be recorded in a log file. As per usual, you may prefer to get a nerd to interpret your log files for you. To have a look at this yourself, fire up the 'Console' application (in the 'Utilities' folder within the 'Applications' folder) and scrounge around in some of the log files listed there. It will help if you have 'freshly' failed to start web sharing, as this makes it easy to find recent messages at the end of the log files. I suppose you might have tried this already. With regards to your unexpected quitting, what became of those memtest results? Have you pursued any avenues to do with replacing RAM or operating it as a uniprocessor system? I don't know what type of RAM your machine has, but if it's error-correcting then I would hope that there'd also be traces of failure in your kernel's logs. Also, have you tried simply creating a 'new user' and logging in as that new user? That would basically give you 'fresh' preferences, permissions, startup items, etc.
Re: Personal Web Sharing
Callum This can happen if you have edited your httpd.conf file and in doing so you have made a mistake somewhere. The Sharing preferences assumes a valid configuration file. To check your configuration for correctness, enter httpd -t in a terminal, if there is an error you will be told the line number where the problem is. Dave Watkins At 10:52 AM +0800 10/4/04, Callum Prior said: Hi all, I'm having trouble reactivating Web Sharing. After selecting it and clicking start a Web Sharing starting up message appears, Personal Web Sharing greys out, and nothing happens. Anyone have any ideas? 10.3.3 Dual 1Ghz G4, 768 Mb DDR SDRAM, 40Gb free space. Cheers! Callum
