Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 14/10/2013, at 10:06 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> A big +1 for 1Password from me too.
> 
> I must admit when Peter talked about the problems that "this type of
> software" creates - I thought he was talking about AppCleaner (which deleted
> the keychain) rather than 1Password - though I now see it could be read
> either way ;o)
> 
> 
> 


Yes, I was talking about AppCleaner and its ilk. Sorry for being ambiguous 
there. 

As for 1Password, I can't live without it!

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thanks Ronni,
No backups listed so restarted 1Password Mini.
Will wait and see now.

On 14/10/2013, at 11:45 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
> 
> If you open 1Password Menu > Preferences > Backups do you see any backups 
> listed? 
> Probably not, so try this:
> 1Password Menu > Help > Troubleshooting > Restart 1Password mini and see if 
> that corrects the problem
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> On 14 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
>> I must be a complete dope using AppCleaner for this one.
>> I followed the instructions for installing and setting up 1Password 4 first.
>> Then the final instruction was to uninstall 1Password 3 Extension first and 
>> then delete 1Password 3 itself.
>> D  !
>> 
>> Fortunately (because of my trusting nature) I keep all my passwords on paper 
>> in a very secure place.
>> So I have now re-entered them all into 1Password 4 and linked the logins 
>> again.
>> The annoying part is that I also lost all my software license info.
>> It is all around somewhere but not as organised as my passwords, so no huge 
>> problem.
>> 
>> I now have 1Password 4 syncing with iCloud so it is backed up.
>> But every so often I get a message saying that "1Password backup failed".
>> But this does not refer to iCloud. It seems to refer to an "on the Mac 
>> backup"
>> It states in the 1Password user guide that these backups are automatic but 
>> does not say how to turn them off.
>> 
>> Any ideas re this please ?
>> I am waiting for a reply from Agile Bits re this but they are obviously very 
>> busy right now !
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 
 I just installed the new 1Password 4.
 Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
 
 Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
 
>>> 
>>> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The 
>>> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than 
>>> any perceived "problems" they purport to fix. 
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
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>>> 
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>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

If you open 1Password Menu > Preferences > Backups do you see any backups 
listed? 
Probably not, so try this:
1Password Menu > Help > Troubleshooting > Restart 1Password mini and see if 
that corrects the problem

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4

> On 14 Oct 2013, at 11:20 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> I must be a complete dope using AppCleaner for this one.
> I followed the instructions for installing and setting up 1Password 4 first.
> Then the final instruction was to uninstall 1Password 3 Extension first and 
> then delete 1Password 3 itself.
> D  !
> 
> Fortunately (because of my trusting nature) I keep all my passwords on paper 
> in a very secure place.
> So I have now re-entered them all into 1Password 4 and linked the logins 
> again.
> The annoying part is that I also lost all my software license info.
> It is all around somewhere but not as organised as my passwords, so no huge 
> problem.
> 
> I now have 1Password 4 syncing with iCloud so it is backed up.
> But every so often I get a message saying that "1Password backup failed".
> But this does not refer to iCloud. It seems to refer to an "on the Mac backup"
> It states in the 1Password user guide that these backups are automatic but 
> does not say how to turn them off.
> 
> Any ideas re this please ?
> I am waiting for a reply from Agile Bits re this but they are obviously very 
> busy right now !
> 
> 
>> On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>>> 
>>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>>> 
>> 
>> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The 
>> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than 
>> any perceived "problems" they purport to fix. 
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 
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> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Stephen Chape]

I must be a complete dope using AppCleaner for this one.
I followed the instructions for installing and setting up 1Password 4 first.
Then the final instruction was to uninstall 1Password 3 Extension first and 
then delete 1Password 3 itself.
D  !

Fortunately (because of my trusting nature) I keep all my passwords on paper in 
a very secure place.
So I have now re-entered them all into 1Password 4 and linked the logins again.
The annoying part is that I also lost all my software license info.
It is all around somewhere but not as organised as my passwords, so no huge 
problem.

I now have 1Password 4 syncing with iCloud so it is backed up.
But every so often I get a message saying that "1Password backup failed".
But this does not refer to iCloud. It seems to refer to an "on the Mac backup"
It states in the 1Password user guide that these backups are automatic but does 
not say how to turn them off.

Any ideas re this please ?
I am waiting for a reply from Agile Bits re this but they are obviously very 
busy right now !


On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

> 
> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>> 
>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>> 
> 
> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The 
> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than any 
> perceived "problems" they purport to fix. 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Ronda Brown]

Yes Peter highly praises 1Password, as I also do & most of us do! ;-)

/quote from one of Peter's responses to list way back on 26 April 2012

"If 1Password were simply a password protector it would still come highly 
recommended, but it goes much further than that. It is also an excellent 
repository for all your software licence codes/serial numbers, credit card 
details, passport details, etc, all nicely tucked away in a secure environment 
which can be synced across all your devices. It also allows information like 
credit card details to be used to autofill forms in web browsers. It's an 
indispensable tool."
/End Quote

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad4

> On 14 Oct 2013, at 10:10 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Oh yes, so it could be!   ooops
> 
> Apologies to Peter if I have misconstrued your message.
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On 14/10/2013, at 10:06 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> A big +1 for 1Password from me too.
>> 
>> I must admit when Peter talked about the problems that "this type of
>> software" creates - I thought he was talking about AppCleaner (which deleted
>> the keychain) rather than 1Password - though I now see it could be read
>> either way ;o)
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Neil
>> -- 
>> Neil R. Houghton
>> Albany, Western Australia
>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
>> Email: n...@possumology.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> on 14/10/13 9:11, Tim Law at t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it's a risk Peter.
>>> 
>>> I balance that risk out by using a combination of Time Machine and Super 
>>> Duper
>>> backing up to two separate disks on a daily and weekly basis,
>>> and the perceived benefits of using random passwords across all my logins
>>> 
>>> against
>>> 
>>> the risk of only ever using a few passwords across all the logins and 
>>> risking
>>> them all being hacked if one is hacked.
>>> 
>>> How realistic that risk is unknown really, but I do appreciate how 1Password
>>> makes logging in so easy. I will probably continue to sit comfortably until 
>>> I
>>> have a crisis such as Stephen did.
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
 On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  
 wrote:
 
 
> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
> 
> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
 
 Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The
 problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than 
 any
 perceived "problems" they purport to fix.
 
 Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
 FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
 Perth, Western Australia
 Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
 
 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Tim Law]

Oh yes, so it could be!   ooops

Apologies to Peter if I have misconstrued your message.

Tim

On 14/10/2013, at 10:06 AM, Neil Houghton  wrote:

> Hi Tim,
> 
> A big +1 for 1Password from me too.
> 
> I must admit when Peter talked about the problems that "this type of
> software" creates - I thought he was talking about AppCleaner (which deleted
> the keychain) rather than 1Password - though I now see it could be read
> either way ;o)
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 14/10/13 9:11, Tim Law at t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:
> 
>> Yes it's a risk Peter.
>> 
>> I balance that risk out by using a combination of Time Machine and Super 
>> Duper
>> backing up to two separate disks on a daily and weekly basis,
>> and the perceived benefits of using random passwords across all my logins
>> 
>> against
>> 
>> the risk of only ever using a few passwords across all the logins and risking
>> them all being hacked if one is hacked.
>> 
>> How realistic that risk is unknown really, but I do appreciate how 1Password
>> makes logging in so easy. I will probably continue to sit comfortably until I
>> have a crisis such as Stephen did.
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi folks,
 
 I just installed the new 1Password 4.
 Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
 
 Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
 
>>> 
>>> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The
>>> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than 
>>> any
>>> perceived "problems" they purport to fix.
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
> 
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Tim,

A big +1 for 1Password from me too.

I must admit when Peter talked about the problems that "this type of
software" creates - I thought he was talking about AppCleaner (which deleted
the keychain) rather than 1Password - though I now see it could be read
either way ;o)


Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 14/10/13 9:11, Tim Law at t...@peoplehelp.com.au wrote:

> Yes it's a risk Peter.
> 
> I balance that risk out by using a combination of Time Machine and Super Duper
> backing up to two separate disks on a daily and weekly basis,
> and the perceived benefits of using random passwords across all my logins
> 
> against
> 
> the risk of only ever using a few passwords across all the logins and risking
> them all being hacked if one is hacked.
> 
> How realistic that risk is unknown really, but I do appreciate how 1Password
> makes logging in so easy. I will probably continue to sit comfortably until I
> have a crisis such as Stephen did.
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>>> 
>>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>>> 
>> 
>> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The
>> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than any
>> perceived "problems" they purport to fix.
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 


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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Tim Law]

Yes it's a risk Peter.

I balance that risk out by using a combination of Time Machine and Super Duper 
backing up to two separate disks on a daily and weekly basis, 
and the perceived benefits of using random passwords across all my logins

against

the risk of only ever using a few passwords across all the logins and risking 
them all being hacked if one is hacked. 

How realistic that risk is unknown really, but I do appreciate how 1Password 
makes logging in so easy. I will probably continue to sit comfortably until I 
have a crisis such as Stephen did.

Tim


On 14/10/2013, at 7:53 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:

> 
> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>> 
>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>> 
> 
> Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The 
> problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than any 
> perceived "problems" they purport to fix. 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
> 
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
> 
> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
> 

Precisely the reason I avoid this type of software as much as possible. The 
problems these programs can create can end up being far more serious than any 
perceived "problems" they purport to fix. 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Neil.

On 13/10/2013, at 2:31 PM, Neil Houghton  wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
> 
> Just to mention that, for me using 1Password 3 at least, the actual file
> name you are looking for is:
> 
> 1Password.agilekeychain
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> Neil
> -- 
> Neil R. Houghton
> Albany, Western Australia
> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
> Email: n...@possumology.com
> 
> 
> 
> on 13/10/13 11:56, Daniel Kerr at dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephen
>> 
>> This link should help where the file is stored-
>> 
>> 
>> But basically - 
>> Macintosh HD/Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/1Password folder
>> (Unless you have it backing up with Dropbox sync instead.)
>> 
>> Hope that helps.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Daniel
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 5
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>> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>>> 
>>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>>> 
>>> Does anyone know the name of the 1Password Vault File please so that I can
>>> restore from Time Machine ?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
> 
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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Stephen,

Just to mention that, for me using 1Password 3 at least, the actual file
name you are looking for is:

1Password.agilekeychain

HTH


Neil
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Email: n...@possumology.com



on 13/10/13 11:56, Daniel Kerr at dan...@macwizardry.com.au wrote:

> Hi Stephen
> 
> This link should help where the file is stored-
> 
> 
> But basically - 
> Macintosh HD/Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/1Password folder
> (Unless you have it backing up with Dropbox sync instead.)
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> Kind regards
> Daniel
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 5
> 
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> 
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> 
> On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
>> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
>> 
>> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
>> 
>> Does anyone know the name of the 1Password Vault File please so that I can
>> restore from Time Machine ?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 


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Re: Vault File for 1Password ?

[Daniel Kerr]

Hi Stephen

This link should help where the file is stored-


But basically - 
Macintosh HD/Users/yourname/Library/Application Support/1Password folder
(Unless you have it backing up with Dropbox sync instead.)

Hope that helps.

Kind regards
Daniel

Sent from my iPhone 5

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On 13/10/2013, at 11:44 AM, Stephen Chape  wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I just installed the new 1Password 4.
> Then I used AppCleaner to delete 1Password 3.
> 
> Little did I realise that that would lose the "Vault File".
> 
> Does anyone know the name of the 1Password Vault File please so that I can 
> restore from Time Machine ?
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
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