Re: iTunes Library?

[Severin Crisp]

Thanks
Severin

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   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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> On 31 Jan 2016, at 6:10 PM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 31 Jan 2016, at 5:23 PM, Severin Crisp > > wrote:
>> 
>> Where has it gone to in El Capitan.   I used to be able to access it before, 
>> can not remember where(!) but now it has vanished.  Very useful for  
>> grabbing items to use elsewhere.   
>> Severin Crisp
>> 
>>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
>> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
>> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
>>   
>> 
>> 
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Re: iTunes Library?

[Neil Houghton]

Too slow... Need to be faster to beat Ronni  ;o)



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on 31/1/16 18:19, Neil Houghton at n...@possumology.com wrote:

> Hi Sev,
> 
> Don¹t know about El Capitan - I¹m still at SL ;o)
> 
> 
> However, assuming iTunes has not changed TOO much:
> 
> In iTunes select something (anything) and choose show in finder.
> 
> Once seen in finder, you can soon work out the filing logic.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> HTH
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> Neil



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Re: iTunes Library?

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Sev,

Don¹t know about El Capitan - I¹m still at SL ;o)


However, assuming iTunes has not changed TOO much:

In iTunes select something (anything) and choose show in finder.

Once seen in finder, you can soon work out the filing logic.




HTH



Cheers



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on 31/1/16 17:23, Severin Crisp at sevcr...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> Where has it gone to in El Capitan.   I used to be able to access it before,
> can not remember where(!) but now it has vanished.  Very useful for  grabbing
> items to use elsewhere.
> Severin Crisp
> 
> 
>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
> 
>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
> 
> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
> 
> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au
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Re: iTunes Library?

[Ronni Brown]

Home > Music > iTunes

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 31 Jan 2016, at 5:23 PM, Severin Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Where has it gone to in El Capitan.   I used to be able to access it before, 
> can not remember where(!) but now it has vanished.  Very useful for  grabbing 
> items to use elsewhere.   
> Severin Crisp
> 
>Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
>15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
> Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
> email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au 
>   
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iTunes Library?

[Severin Crisp]

Where has it gone to in El Capitan.   I used to be able to access it before, 
can not remember where(!) but now it has vanished.  Very useful for  grabbing 
items to use elsewhere.   
Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
email  mailto:sevcr...@westnet.com.au  



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Re: Coping iTunes library

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

Your situation could be different to what Stuart has asked here.

You will probably I suspect; as soon as you boot up your NEW iMac use The Setup 
Assistant - Migration Assistant to Transfer all your old programs, files, 
folders, and settings from the OLD Mac to the NEW Mac.

Cheers,
Ronni
Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 13/10/2012, at 2:00 PM, Stephen Chape  wrote:

> Thank you from me too Ronni,
> I will keep these instructions for when I (hopefully) soon get my new iMac.
> 
> 
> On 12/10/2012, at 8:23 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stuart,
>> 
>> As long as all your Music and Media is in the default location - 
>> Home/Music/iTunes
>> 
>> Moving your Content to a New Computer:
>> 
>> If you’re simply looking to move your iTunes library to an entirely new 
>> computer, the process is actually quite a bit simpler than relocating the 
>> content, provided certain conditions are met:
>> 
>>• You are moving your iTunes library between two computers using the same 
>> operating system and iTunes version; and
>>• You plan to store the iTunes library database and content in the same 
>> relative locations on the new computer
>> 
>> If this is the case, then transferring your iTunes library to a new computer 
>> is quite simple: 
>> Just copy the entire "iTunes Folder"  (which contains all sub-folders) from 
>> your “Music”  folder on your old computer to the corresponding folder on the 
>> new computer.
>> 
>> Note: If you have previously run iTunes on the new computer at all, even if 
>> you haven’t done anything with it, chances are that there will already be an 
>> “iTunes” folder present. Unless you’ve already started using iTunes on the 
>> new computer and adding content to it, you can safely overwrite this folder 
>> as it simply represents the empty database that iTunes initially creates.
>> 
>> Note: that your iTunes preferences are machine-specific, and you will need 
>> to go through and re-configure these the first time you run iTunes after 
>> copying your library over to the new computer. 
>> 
>> If you have any content purchased from the iTunes Store, you will need to 
>> Re-Authorize the new computer for your iTunes Store account. 
>> Computer authorization is machine-specific. 
>> You should also make sure you DE-authorize your old computer if you no 
>> longer plan to use it with iTunes.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
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>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 12/10/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stuart Breden  wrote:
>> 
>>> How do I copy my iMac iTunes library to my MacBook Pro?
>>> 
>>> Stuart Breden
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Re: Coping iTunes library

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you from me too Ronni,
I will keep these instructions for when I (hopefully) soon get my new iMac.


On 12/10/2012, at 8:23 PM, Ronni Brown wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
> 
> As long as all your Music and Media is in the default location - 
> Home/Music/iTunes
> 
> Moving your Content to a New Computer:
> 
> If you’re simply looking to move your iTunes library to an entirely new 
> computer, the process is actually quite a bit simpler than relocating the 
> content, provided certain conditions are met:
> 
>   • You are moving your iTunes library between two computers using the 
> same operating system and iTunes version; and
>   • You plan to store the iTunes library database and content in the same 
> relative locations on the new computer
> 
> If this is the case, then transferring your iTunes library to a new computer 
> is quite simple: 
> Just copy the entire "iTunes Folder"  (which contains all sub-folders) from 
> your “Music”  folder on your old computer to the corresponding folder on the 
> new computer.
> 
> Note: If you have previously run iTunes on the new computer at all, even if 
> you haven’t done anything with it, chances are that there will already be an 
> “iTunes” folder present. Unless you’ve already started using iTunes on the 
> new computer and adding content to it, you can safely overwrite this folder 
> as it simply represents the empty database that iTunes initially creates.
> 
> Note: that your iTunes preferences are machine-specific, and you will need to 
> go through and re-configure these the first time you run iTunes after copying 
> your library over to the new computer. 
> 
> If you have any content purchased from the iTunes Store, you will need to 
> Re-Authorize the new computer for your iTunes Store account. 
> Computer authorization is machine-specific. 
> You should also make sure you DE-authorize your old computer if you no longer 
> plan to use it with iTunes.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
> 
> OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion
> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
> 
> 
> 
> On 12/10/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stuart Breden  wrote:
> 
>> How do I copy my iMac iTunes library to my MacBook Pro?
>> 
>> Stuart Breden
>> PO Box 132
>> Kalamunda WA 6926
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>> 
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Re: Coping iTunes library

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Stuart,

As long as all your Music and Media is in the default location - 
Home/Music/iTunes

Moving your Content to a New Computer:

If you’re simply looking to move your iTunes library to an entirely new 
computer, the process is actually quite a bit simpler than relocating the 
content, provided certain conditions are met:

• You are moving your iTunes library between two computers using the 
same operating system and iTunes version; and
• You plan to store the iTunes library database and content in the same 
relative locations on the new computer

If this is the case, then transferring your iTunes library to a new computer is 
quite simple: 
Just copy the entire "iTunes Folder"  (which contains all sub-folders) from 
your “Music”  folder on your old computer to the corresponding folder on the 
new computer.

Note: If you have previously run iTunes on the new computer at all, even if you 
haven’t done anything with it, chances are that there will already be an 
“iTunes” folder present. Unless you’ve already started using iTunes on the new 
computer and adding content to it, you can safely overwrite this folder as it 
simply represents the empty database that iTunes initially creates.

Note: that your iTunes preferences are machine-specific, and you will need to 
go through and re-configure these the first time you run iTunes after copying 
your library over to the new computer. 

If you have any content purchased from the iTunes Store, you will need to 
Re-Authorize the new computer for your iTunes Store account. 
Computer authorization is machine-specific. 
You should also make sure you DE-authorize your old computer if you no longer 
plan to use it with iTunes.


Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt"
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)



On 12/10/2012, at 6:53 PM, Stuart Breden  wrote:

> How do I copy my iMac iTunes library to my MacBook Pro?
> 
> Stuart Breden
> PO Box 132
> Kalamunda WA 6926
> Ph: (08) 9257 1577
> Mbl: 0417 053 266
> 
> Please consider the environment before printing this email
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Coping iTunes library

[Stuart Breden]

How do I copy my iMac iTunes library to my MacBook Pro?

Stuart Breden
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Re: Shifting iTunes library

[Peter Crisp]

Thanks Roni, I thought about that after sending. My apologies for leveraging 
like that.

Regards

Pete.



On 16/01/2012, at 7:36 AM, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hey Peter,
> 
> This is a Mac Mailing List, not a Windows!
>  iTunes iTunes for 
> Windows: Moving your iTunes Media folder
> 
> <http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1364>
> Go to Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General and reset the path for "iTunes 
> Music Folder Location."
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad
> 
> On 15/01/2012, at 10:32 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all, I keep my iTunes library on a 500GB external drive and just recently 
>> upgraded the drive to a 1TB portable external drive to give room for more 
>> photos, music, Podcasts etc. I was within 15GB of the 500GB capacity. 
>> 
>> I have migrated all of the content to the other drive but don't want to 
>> rebuild the library given that iTunes will need repathing to the music 
>> folder on the new drive. I haven't reset the new path in iTunes yet so will 
>> wait till there's some responses to this.
>> 
>> Does anyone know how to do this simply? I am using a XP laptop (sorry not 
>> Mac) but employer has priority in this case.
>> 
>> Any tips appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
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Re: Shifting iTunes library

[Ronda Brown]

Hey Peter,

This is a Mac Mailing List, not a Windows!  
   iTunes iTunes for 
Windows: Moving your iTunes Media folder

<http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1364>
Go to Edit > Preferences > Advanced > General and reset the path for "iTunes 
Music Folder Location."

Sent from Ronni's iPad

On 15/01/2012, at 10:32 PM, Peter Crisp  wrote:

> Hi all, I keep my iTunes library on a 500GB external drive and just recently 
> upgraded the drive to a 1TB portable external drive to give room for more 
> photos, music, Podcasts etc. I was within 15GB of the 500GB capacity. 
> 
> I have migrated all of the content to the other drive but don't want to 
> rebuild the library given that iTunes will need repathing to the music folder 
> on the new drive. I haven't reset the new path in iTunes yet so will wait 
> till there's some responses to this.
> 
> Does anyone know how to do this simply? I am using a XP laptop (sorry not 
> Mac) but employer has priority in this case.
> 
> Any tips appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> 
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Shifting iTunes library

[Peter Crisp]

Hi all, I keep my iTunes library on a 500GB external drive and just recently 
upgraded the drive to a 1TB portable external drive to give room for more 
photos, music, Podcasts etc. I was within 15GB of the 500GB capacity. 

I have migrated all of the content to the other drive but don't want to rebuild 
the library given that iTunes will need repathing to the music folder on the 
new drive. I haven't reset the new path in iTunes yet so will wait till there's 
some responses to this.

Does anyone know how to do this simply? I am using a XP laptop (sorry not Mac) 
but employer has priority in this case.

Any tips appreciated.

Regards

Peter...
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Re: Sharing iTunes library

[Stuart Breden]

I have done what you said with my itunes library but did not realise  
that I had to be logged in before the library would be shared.


Thanks Tim.

I'll will try Rob Finlay's suggestion this week as this seems to mean  
that I do not have to be logged for the library to be shared.


Stuart Breden
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Kalamunda WA 6926
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On 16/10/2010, at 5:24 PM, Tim Law wrote:



Hello Stuart.

There must be something very wrong with your setup, sorry I can't  
help fix it.


I have just checked on my home networks, some running 10.5 and some  
10.6, both with itunes 10.


Under iTunes Preferences, I clicked on the Sharing tab and clicked  
the appropriate buttons. Then it all just worked and I am now  
listening to Abba streaming through from my sons computer. Given he  
is 17 and I am somewhat older, this is quite remarkable for more  
than just technological perspective.  :-)


For this not to work so easily, seems to me you have something  
dreadful happening. I hope it can be fixed.


Regards

Tim






On 16/10/2010, at 2:42 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:



I use iTunes connected to a PA system to have music in my waiting  
room.  The iTunes library is on my logon.


How do I share the library with all other users of the iMac?

Home Sharing does not enable you to share libraries.

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Re: Sharing iTunes library

[Tim Law]

Ah yes - Thanks for clarifying that Rob. I didn't pick that point up in Stuarts 
first posting. 

Apologies for the misunderstanding, and misleading posting.

Tim






On 16/10/2010, at 6:50 PM, Rob Findlay wrote:

> 
> He wants them all to share the Library on the same mac not across a network.
> I have my iMac setup like this. Put a folder with the music into Users/Shared 
> and then under each login in iTunes preferences change the location of the 
> Library to this folder.
> 
> To make sure I had no issues with permissions  I used Sandbox to create an 
> ACL which enforces everybody has full control over all files in this 
> directory no matter who creates them but this is probably unnecessary.
> 
> 
> On 16/10/2010, at 5:24 PM, Tim Law wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hello Stuart.
>> 
>> There must be something very wrong with your setup, sorry I can't help fix 
>> it.
>> 
>> I have just checked on my home networks, some running 10.5 and some 10.6, 
>> both with itunes 10.
>> 
>> Under iTunes Preferences, I clicked on the Sharing tab and clicked the 
>> appropriate buttons. Then it all just worked and I am now listening to Abba 
>> streaming through from my sons computer. Given he is 17 and I am somewhat 
>> older, this is quite remarkable for more than just technological 
>> perspective.  :-)
>> 
>> For this not to work so easily, seems to me you have something dreadful 
>> happening. I hope it can be fixed. 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 16/10/2010, at 2:42 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> I use iTunes connected to a PA system to have music in my waiting room.  
>>> The iTunes library is on my logon.
>>> 
>>> How do I share the library with all other users of the iMac?
>>> 
>>> Home Sharing does not enable you to share libraries.
>>> 
>>> Stuart Breden
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Sharing iTunes library

[Rob Findlay]

He wants them all to share the Library on the same mac not across a network.
I have my iMac setup like this. Put a folder with the music into Users/Shared 
and then under each login in iTunes preferences change the location of the 
Library to this folder.

To make sure I had no issues with permissions  I used Sandbox to create an ACL 
which enforces everybody has full control over all files in this directory no 
matter who creates them but this is probably unnecessary.


On 16/10/2010, at 5:24 PM, Tim Law wrote:

> 
> Hello Stuart.
> 
> There must be something very wrong with your setup, sorry I can't help fix it.
> 
> I have just checked on my home networks, some running 10.5 and some 10.6, 
> both with itunes 10.
> 
> Under iTunes Preferences, I clicked on the Sharing tab and clicked the 
> appropriate buttons. Then it all just worked and I am now listening to Abba 
> streaming through from my sons computer. Given he is 17 and I am somewhat 
> older, this is quite remarkable for more than just technological perspective. 
>  :-)
> 
> For this not to work so easily, seems to me you have something dreadful 
> happening. I hope it can be fixed. 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 16/10/2010, at 2:42 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I use iTunes connected to a PA system to have music in my waiting room.  The 
>> iTunes library is on my logon.
>> 
>> How do I share the library with all other users of the iMac?
>> 
>> Home Sharing does not enable you to share libraries.
>> 
>> Stuart Breden
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Sharing iTunes library

[Tim Law]

Hello Stuart.

There must be something very wrong with your setup, sorry I can't help fix it.

I have just checked on my home networks, some running 10.5 and some 10.6, both 
with itunes 10.

Under iTunes Preferences, I clicked on the Sharing tab and clicked the 
appropriate buttons. Then it all just worked and I am now listening to Abba 
streaming through from my sons computer. Given he is 17 and I am somewhat 
older, this is quite remarkable for more than just technological perspective.  
:-)

For this not to work so easily, seems to me you have something dreadful 
happening. I hope it can be fixed. 

Regards

Tim

 




On 16/10/2010, at 2:42 PM, bred...@highway1.biz wrote:

> 
> I use iTunes connected to a PA system to have music in my waiting room.  The 
> iTunes library is on my logon.
> 
> How do I share the library with all other users of the iMac?
> 
> Home Sharing does not enable you to share libraries.
> 
> Stuart Breden
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Sharing iTunes library

[bredens]

I use iTunes connected to a PA system to have music in my waiting room.  The 
iTunes library is on my logon.

How do I share the library with all other users of the iMac?

Home Sharing does not enable you to share libraries.

Stuart Breden






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Re: itunes library

[mince and pud]

Hi Ronni

Sorry! Old mac is sitting right there - forgot you couldn't see it!  
(Actually it's not hooked up any more but I still have its clone on  
the drive)


Glad to have saved you the second half of an email - apologies for the  
first half


many thanks
alastair


On 25/03/2010, at 4:13 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



Hi Alastair,

I was part way through typing an email to you re exactly what you  
have now found out.


iTunes still stores its library data files in your user folder, I  
think with the change from "old Mac" to "New Mac", the associated  
Library Data files that were on the "Old Mac" (that were linking to  
the iTunes files on External Drive are not in your user folder on  
the "New Mac"), therefore the associated link pointing iTunes to the  
Library on the External Drive is not there.


I then went on in great detail how you could re-associate the link  
on the new Mac to the External Drive (not knowing you still had the  
old mac). Would have saved us some time if we had of know that bit  
of information ;-)


I won't bother now sending all the details.

Good to hear you have iTunes working again, the result is all we are  
concerned about.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 25/03/2010, at 4:02 PM, mince and pud wrote:



woo hoo!

My library is back from the wilderness. The opt-launch thing was as  
simple as not holding the key down for long enough (so it stopped  
working the more impatient I got!)


At a loss to find a working library file in the music folder on my  
external drive, I had a look at my home>music folder on the old mac  
and found an iTunes folder containing a library file and some odd  
bits of music (not the ones I'd been trying to play). Copied this  
over to new home folder and pointed iT at it with the newly  
mastered opt-launch and I'm back in business.


So the library finds the music even though they're not even on the  
same drive, let alone in the same folder.


Many thanks Ronni and Peter

Alastair


On 25/03/2010, at 8:20 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hello Ronni

Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered  
the old setup


Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger

may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget

choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is  
what I meant by

"But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"

I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating  
library', but nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the  
folder I should be choosing? The actual 'library' files are  
greyed-out in iT prefs so I guess I'm not after those)


Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
alastair




Ronni's advice about holding down the Option key while starting  
iTunes is very important. The dialog which appears prompts you to  
locate your iTunes library. It is sufficient simply to point to  
the iTunes folder on your external hard drive. iTunes will find  
the library file by itself.


Yes, you can change the location in your Preferences, but you have  
at least to quit iTunes and run it again for the change to be  
recognised, and the results can be inconsistent. The option key  
trick always works.



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Re: itunes library

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alastair,

I was part way through typing an email to you re exactly what you have now 
found out.

iTunes still stores its library data files in your user folder, I think with 
the change from "old Mac" to "New Mac", the associated Library Data files that 
were on the "Old Mac" (that were linking to the iTunes files on External Drive 
are not in your user folder on the "New Mac"), therefore the associated link 
pointing iTunes to the Library on the External Drive is not there.

I then went on in great detail how you could re-associate the link on the new 
Mac to the External Drive (not knowing you still had the old mac). Would have 
saved us some time if we had of know that bit of information ;-)

I won't bother now sending all the details.

Good to hear you have iTunes working again, the result is all we are concerned 
about.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 25/03/2010, at 4:02 PM, mince and pud wrote:

> 
> woo hoo!
> 
> My library is back from the wilderness. The opt-launch thing was as simple as 
> not holding the key down for long enough (so it stopped working the more 
> impatient I got!)
> 
> At a loss to find a working library file in the music folder on my external 
> drive, I had a look at my home>music folder on the old mac and found an 
> iTunes folder containing a library file and some odd bits of music (not the 
> ones I'd been trying to play). Copied this over to new home folder and 
> pointed iT at it with the newly mastered opt-launch and I'm back in business.
> 
> So the library finds the music even though they're not even on the same 
> drive, let alone in the same folder.
> 
> Many thanks Ronni and Peter
> 
> Alastair
> 
> 
> On 25/03/2010, at 8:20 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello Ronni
>>> 
>>> Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the old setup
>>> 
>>> Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger
>>> 
>>> may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget
>>> 
>>> choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is what I 
>>> meant by
>>> "But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"
>>> 
>>> I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library', but 
>>> nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I should be 
>>> choosing? The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT prefs so I guess 
>>> I'm not after those)
>>> 
>>> Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
>>> alastair
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ronni's advice about holding down the Option key while starting iTunes is 
>> very important. The dialog which appears prompts you to locate your iTunes 
>> library. It is sufficient simply to point to the iTunes folder on your 
>> external hard drive. iTunes will find the library file by itself.
>> 
>> Yes, you can change the location in your Preferences, but you have at least 
>> to quit iTunes and run it again for the change to be recognised, and the 
>> results can be inconsistent. The option key trick always works.
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
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>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948
>> 
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Re: itunes library

[mince and pud]

woo hoo!

My library is back from the wilderness. The opt-launch thing was as  
simple as not holding the key down for long enough (so it stopped  
working the more impatient I got!)


At a loss to find a working library file in the music folder on my  
external drive, I had a look at my home>music folder on the old mac  
and found an iTunes folder containing a library file and some odd bits  
of music (not the ones I'd been trying to play). Copied this over to  
new home folder and pointed iT at it with the newly mastered opt- 
launch and I'm back in business.


So the library finds the music even though they're not even on the  
same drive, let alone in the same folder.


Many thanks Ronni and Peter

Alastair


On 25/03/2010, at 8:20 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hello Ronni

Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the  
old setup


Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger

may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget

choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is  
what I meant by

"But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"

I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library',  
but nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I  
should be choosing? The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT  
prefs so I guess I'm not after those)


Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
alastair




Ronni's advice about holding down the Option key while starting  
iTunes is very important. The dialog which appears prompts you to  
locate your iTunes library. It is sufficient simply to point to the  
iTunes folder on your external hard drive. iTunes will find the  
library file by itself.


Yes, you can change the location in your Preferences, but you have  
at least to quit iTunes and run it again for the change to be  
recognised, and the results can be inconsistent. The option key  
trick always works.



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Re: itunes library

[mince and pud]

Thank you for weighing in, Peter.

Here's a funny thing - although the option-launch thing worked a  
couple of times early in this saga, it has now stopped doing so.  
Instead, if I option-launch iTunes all that happens is that the  
frontmost programme is hidden and iT launches normally. Huh?


You're right about preferences not doing it - I had been trashing  
library files that I knew were the wrong ones, hoping to find the  
right one by elimination, but now iT is fixated on one in a 'previous  
itunes library' (that's what appears in the top of the iT window)  
folder and nothing I do in preferences will change its mind,  
notwithstanding re-launches/restarts


I think I could find the right library file in an older backup of the  
HD and put it back in the current music folder. But without option- 
launch I can't tell iT where to look. Any ideas?


many thanks


On 25/03/2010, at 8:20 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote:




On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:



Hello Ronni

Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the  
old setup


Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger

may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget

choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is  
what I meant by

"But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"

I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library',  
but nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I  
should be choosing? The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT  
prefs so I guess I'm not after those)


Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
alastair




Ronni's advice about holding down the Option key while starting  
iTunes is very important. The dialog which appears prompts you to  
locate your iTunes library. It is sufficient simply to point to the  
iTunes folder on your external hard drive. iTunes will find the  
library file by itself.


Yes, you can change the location in your Preferences, but you have  
at least to quit iTunes and run it again for the change to be  
recognised, and the results can be inconsistent. The option key  
trick always works.



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Re: itunes library

[Peter Hinchliffe]

On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:

> 
> Hello Ronni
> 
> Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the old setup
> 
> Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger
> 
> may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget
> 
> choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is what I meant 
> by
> "But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"
> 
> I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library', but 
> nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I should be choosing? 
> The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT prefs so I guess I'm not 
> after those)
> 
> Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
> alastair
> 


Ronni's advice about holding down the Option key while starting iTunes is very 
important. The dialog which appears prompts you to locate your iTunes library. 
It is sufficient simply to point to the iTunes folder on your external hard 
drive. iTunes will find the library file by itself.

Yes, you can change the location in your Preferences, but you have at least to 
quit iTunes and run it again for the change to be recognised, and the results 
can be inconsistent. The option key trick always works.


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Re: itunes library

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Alastair,

You are wanting to run iTunes from the External Drive's iTunes Library, NOT the 
new Mac's iTunes Library, is this correct?

> I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library', but 
> nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I should be choosing? 
> The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT prefs so I guess I'm not 
> after those)

What you want is the iTunes Library file, which should be in your iTunes Music 
folder, which is inside your Music folder on the External Drive.


1) In iTunes, go preferences > advanced and make sure (a) the location of your 
iTunes media (or music) folder is pointing to the external, (b) keep iTunes 
media folder organised and (c) copy files to iTunes media folder when adding to 
library are checked.

2) In iTunes, go file > library > organise library and check consolidate files. 
Hit OK. 

Cheers,
Ronni

On 24/03/2010, at 4:52 PM, mince and pud wrote:

> 
> Hello Ronni
> 
> Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the old setup
> 
> Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger
> 
> may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget
> 
> choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is what I meant 
> by
> "But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"
> 
> I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library', but 
> nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I should be choosing? 
> The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT prefs so I guess I'm not 
> after those)
> 
> Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
> alastair
> 
>> 
>> On 24/03/2010, at 1:38 PM, mince and pud wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> hope everyone survived the deluge and has their power back.
>>> 
>>> I just got a new mac (well, new to me...) and migrating over seems to have 
>>> been pretty smooth. Probably shouldn't have said that. But iTunes has me 
>>> stumped.
>>> 
>>> My library is still on an external firewire drive where it has always been 
>>> - I just told the old itunes where it was and all was well. - it claims to 
>>> be updating library but the window just shows some old stuff which hasn't 
>>> been in my itunes for years and doesn't seem to reflect any actual 
>>> collection of files that I can find - must be created by some old library 
>>> xml file.
>>> 
>>> Just to see, I pointed it at the empty itunes folder in user>music, and 
>>> dragged a couple of albums onto the itunes icon. It duly added them - but 
>>> all the old stuff still appears too. I could delete the unwanted stuff from 
>>> within itunes and bring it all in again, but I'm losing the cover artwork 
>>> that was laboriously added (these are from my own cds, not itunes store 
>>> stuff) and it's all getting a bit irritating.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone from the 'itunes for dummies' dept help please?
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> alastair
>>> 
>>> powermac G5
>>> dual 2ghz
>>> 3.5g ram
>>> 10.5.8
>> 
>> Hi Alastair,
>> 
>> Sounds like you might have migrated an old iTunes Library file across.
>> Was the old Mac iTunes the same version as iTunes on the new Mac?
>> Did you open iTunes on the new Mac before you connected the external Drive 
>> and had it mounted?
>> 
>> Your external HD needs to be mounted before launching iTunes or iTunes will 
>> create a new blank library on your startup drive.
>> i.e You need to have the external drive up and running prior to launching 
>> iTunes.
>> 
>> If your iTunes library files (the entire \iTunes\ folder) is on the External 
>> Drive.
>> 1.Hold Down The Option Key as you start iTunes
>> 2. Select Choose Library & select the iTunes Library file in the iTunes 
>> folder on the External Drive.
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
>> 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
>> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
>> 



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Re: itunes library

[mince and pud]

Hello Ronni

Yes I copied over all the old itunes stuff - it never bothered the old  
setup


Both 9.0.3 - but now under leopard, formerly tiger

may indeed have opened iT before connecting drive - I forget

choosing the library after option-launch (or in preferences) is what I  
meant by

"But when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me"

I point it at my iT folder, a progress bar says 'updating library',  
but nothing changes, even after relaunch. (it IS the folder I should  
be choosing? The actual 'library' files are greyed-out in iT prefs so  
I guess I'm not after those)


Still puzzled - many thanks as ever
alastair



On 24/03/2010, at 1:38 PM, mince and pud wrote:



hope everyone survived the deluge and has their power back.

I just got a new mac (well, new to me...) and migrating over seems  
to have been pretty smooth. Probably shouldn't have said that. But  
iTunes has me stumped.


My library is still on an external firewire drive where it has  
always been - I just told the old itunes where it was and all was  
well. - it claims to be updating library but the window just shows  
some old stuff which hasn't been in my itunes for years and doesn't  
seem to reflect any actual collection of files that I can find -  
must be created by some old library xml file.


Just to see, I pointed it at the empty itunes folder in user>music,  
and dragged a couple of albums onto the itunes icon. It duly added  
them - but all the old stuff still appears too. I could delete the  
unwanted stuff from within itunes and bring it all in again, but  
I'm losing the cover artwork that was laboriously added (these are  
from my own cds, not itunes store stuff) and it's all getting a bit  
irritating.


Can anyone from the 'itunes for dummies' dept help please?

thanks
alastair

powermac G5
dual 2ghz
3.5g ram
10.5.8


Hi Alastair,

Sounds like you might have migrated an old iTunes Library file across.
Was the old Mac iTunes the same version as iTunes on the new Mac?
Did you open iTunes on the new Mac before you connected the external  
Drive and had it mounted?


Your external HD needs to be mounted before launching iTunes or  
iTunes will create a new blank library on your startup drive.
i.e You need to have the external drive up and running prior to  
launching iTunes.


If your iTunes library files (the entire \iTunes\ folder) is on the  
External Drive.

1.Hold Down The Option Key as you start iTunes
2. Select Choose Library & select the iTunes Library file in the  
iTunes folder on the External Drive.



Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: itunes library

[Ronda Brown]

On 24/03/2010, at 1:38 PM, mince and pud wrote:

> 
> hope everyone survived the deluge and has their power back.
> 
> I just got a new mac (well, new to me...) and migrating over seems to have 
> been pretty smooth. Probably shouldn't have said that. But iTunes has me 
> stumped.
> 
> My library is still on an external firewire drive where it has always been - 
> I just told the old itunes where it was and all was well. But when I tell the 
> new itunes where it is it just ignores me - it claims to be updating library 
> but the window just shows some old stuff which hasn't been in my itunes for 
> years and doesn't seem to reflect any actual collection of files that I can 
> find - must be created by some old library xml file.
> 
> Just to see, I pointed it at the empty itunes folder in user>music, and 
> dragged a couple of albums onto the itunes icon. It duly added them - but all 
> the old stuff still appears too. I could delete the unwanted stuff from 
> within itunes and bring it all in again, but I'm losing the cover artwork 
> that was laboriously added (these are from my own cds, not itunes store 
> stuff) and it's all getting a bit irritating.
> 
> Can anyone from the 'itunes for dummies' dept help please?
> 
> thanks
> alastair
> 
> powermac G5
> dual 2ghz
> 3.5g ram
> 10.5.8

Hi Alastair,

Sounds like you might have migrated an old iTunes Library file across.
Was the old Mac iTunes the same version as iTunes on the new Mac?
Did you open iTunes on the new Mac before you connected the external Drive and 
had it mounted?

Your external HD needs to be mounted before launching iTunes or iTunes will 
create a new blank library on your startup drive.
i.e You need to have the external drive up and running prior to launching 
iTunes.

If your iTunes library files (the entire \iTunes\ folder) is on the External 
Drive.
1.Hold Down The Option Key as you start iTunes 
2. Select Choose Library & select the iTunes Library file in the iTunes folder 
on the External Drive.


Cheers,
Ronni

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itunes library

[mince and pud]

hope everyone survived the deluge and has their power back.

I just got a new mac (well, new to me...) and migrating over seems to  
have been pretty smooth. Probably shouldn't have said that. But iTunes  
has me stumped.


My library is still on an external firewire drive where it has always  
been - I just told the old itunes where it was and all was well. But  
when I tell the new itunes where it is it just ignores me - it claims  
to be updating library but the window just shows some old stuff which  
hasn't been in my itunes for years and doesn't seem to reflect any  
actual collection of files that I can find - must be created by some  
old library xml file.


Just to see, I pointed it at the empty itunes folder in user>music,  
and dragged a couple of albums onto the itunes icon. It duly added  
them - but all the old stuff still appears too. I could delete the  
unwanted stuff from within itunes and bring it all in again, but I'm  
losing the cover artwork that was laboriously added (these are from my  
own cds, not itunes store stuff) and it's all getting a bit irritating.


Can anyone from the 'itunes for dummies' dept help please?

thanks
alastair




powermac G5
dual 2ghz
3.5g ram
10.5.8





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RE: iTunes Library - Truncated File Names for Imported Music

[Alan Smith]

Hi Ronni

 

Thanks and thanks.  Both problems solved.   I had used v1.1 tagging - I
hadn't updated my MP3 software as the original version worked!

 

Regards, Alan

 

From: wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au [mailto:wamug-ow...@wamug.org.au] On Behalf
Of Ronda Brown
Sent: Tuesday, 24 November 2009 1:24 PM
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Subject: Re: iTunes Library - Truncated File Names for Imported Music

 

Hi again Alan,

 

I meant to include this in my previous email.

 

In iTunes 9 you need to "Control-Click" (or right click) the song & choose
"Convert ID3 Tags" & select v2.4

Cheers,

Ronni

 

On 24/11/2009, at 12:57 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:





Hello Alan,

 

On 24/11/2009, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith wrote:





Problem 1 - When importing MP3 music sourced from a CD into iTunes the file
name is severely truncated.   How can I overcome this?

 

Check to see which version of ID3 Tags your MP3 files were encoded for. 
The settings for older ID3 tag versions did not allow longer character
strings in some of the fields. 

Select one of your problem tunes. Select Get Info... in the Summary Tab on
the right hand side of the pane is the listing for which version ID3  Tag
your file is.

If it is not at least v. 2.3 then this is the source of  your problem. 

Some files may not even have a version number or are only version 1.0, if
so, then select all your problem MP3 files and from the Advanced menu select
convert ID3 Tags, choose at least v. 2.3. 

Then you should be able to add more information into some of the fields in
your MP3 files.





Problem 2 - Can the file name (Name column in Music Library) be edited
within iTunes?

 


To edit song or CD information:


1. Select the song or CD you want to edit, and then choose File
> Get Info (or press Command-I).

2. Click Info and make your changes.



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Re: iTunes Library - Truncated File Names for Imported Music

[Ronda Brown]

Hi again Alan,

I meant to include this in my previous email.

In iTunes 9 you need to "Control-Click" (or right click) the song & choose 
"Convert ID3 Tags" & select v2.4

Cheers,
Ronni

On 24/11/2009, at 12:57 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

> Hello Alan,
> 
> On 24/11/2009, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith wrote:
> 
>> Problem 1 – When importing MP3 music sourced from a CD into iTunes the file 
>> name is severely truncated.   How can I overcome this?
> 
> Check to see which version of ID3 Tags your MP3 files were encoded for. 
> The settings for older ID3 tag versions did not allow longer character 
> strings in some of the fields. 
> 
> Select one of your problem tunes. Select Get Info... in the Summary Tab on 
> the right hand side of the pane is the listing for which version ID3  Tag 
> your file is.
> If it is not at least v. 2.3 then this is the source of  your problem. 
> 
> Some files may not even have a version number or are only version 1.0, if so, 
> then select all your problem MP3 files and from the Advanced menu select 
> convert ID3 Tags, choose at least v. 2.3. 
> 
> Then you should be able to add more information into some of the fields in 
> your MP3 files.
> 
>> Problem 2 – Can the file name (Name column in Music Library) be edited 
>> within iTunes?
> 
> To edit song or CD information:
> 
> Select the song or CD you want to edit, and then choose File > Get Info (or 
> press Command-I).
> 
> Click Info and make your changes.
> 
>> My music collection is in MP3 format with the bulk on data CDs.   I am 
>> importing it all to my new iMac (iTunes 09) with storage on an external USB 
>> HDD (Maxtor 500 MB equally partitioned for Time Machine and Music).   
>> Original music sources include recent MP3 downloads from Naxos Classics 
>> Online, CDs, audio streaming and files created from cassettes and vinyl LPs.
>>  
>> Many imported files display their full 60 character filenames in iTunes.  
>> However if the original source was a standard CD the iTunes library Name 
>> column only displays the first 30 characters of the track filename.The 
>> full 60 character filename is displayed in Finder.   This is a significant 
>> problem:  I now have, for example, a dozen tracks with Name of > Piano Concerto No>.I need to know the rest of the filename giving 
>> concerto, movement and opus numbers!   The filename in Finder displays the 
>> full description which includes the remaining characters such as > Emperor – 01 – Op73>. 
>>  
>> The Naxos files (downloaded in MP3 format) and all home recorded tracks from 
>> vinyl LPs etc display their full file names in iTunes.
>>  
>> There is no difference in truncation if I import the data CD by dragging the 
>> icon into iTunes, copy a single file, or play a track and allow iTunes to 
>> automatically add it to the library.
>>  
>> Regards
>> Alan
>>  
>> iMac 21.5" Nov 2009
>> Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
>> OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
> 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
> OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard
> 
> 






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Re: iTunes Library - Truncated File Names for Imported Music

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Alan,

On 24/11/2009, at 12:31 PM, Alan Smith wrote:

> Problem 1 – When importing MP3 music sourced from a CD into iTunes the file 
> name is severely truncated.   How can I overcome this?

Check to see which version of ID3 Tags your MP3 files were encoded for. 
The settings for older ID3 tag versions did not allow longer character strings 
in some of the fields. 

Select one of your problem tunes. Select Get Info... in the Summary Tab on the 
right hand side of the pane is the listing for which version ID3  Tag your file 
is.
If it is not at least v. 2.3 then this is the source of  your problem. 

Some files may not even have a version number or are only version 1.0, if so, 
then select all your problem MP3 files and from the Advanced menu select 
convert ID3 Tags, choose at least v. 2.3. 

Then you should be able to add more information into some of the fields in your 
MP3 files.

> Problem 2 – Can the file name (Name column in Music Library) be edited within 
> iTunes?

To edit song or CD information:

Select the song or CD you want to edit, and then choose File > Get Info (or 
press Command-I).

Click Info and make your changes.

> My music collection is in MP3 format with the bulk on data CDs.   I am 
> importing it all to my new iMac (iTunes 09) with storage on an external USB 
> HDD (Maxtor 500 MB equally partitioned for Time Machine and Music).   
> Original music sources include recent MP3 downloads from Naxos Classics 
> Online, CDs, audio streaming and files created from cassettes and vinyl LPs.
>  
> Many imported files display their full 60 character filenames in iTunes.  
> However if the original source was a standard CD the iTunes library Name 
> column only displays the first 30 characters of the track filename.The 
> full 60 character filename is displayed in Finder.   This is a significant 
> problem:  I now have, for example, a dozen tracks with Name of  Piano Concerto No>.I need to know the rest of the filename giving 
> concerto, movement and opus numbers!   The filename in Finder displays the 
> full description which includes the remaining characters such as  Emperor – 01 – Op73>. 
>  
> The Naxos files (downloaded in MP3 format) and all home recorded tracks from 
> vinyl LPs etc display their full file names in iTunes.
>  
> There is no difference in truncation if I import the data CD by dragging the 
> icon into iTunes, copy a single file, or play a track and allow iTunes to 
> automatically add it to the library.
>  
> Regards
> Alan
>  
> iMac 21.5" Nov 2009
> Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB
> OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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iTunes Library - Truncated File Names for Imported Music

[Alan Smith]

 

Problem 1 - When importing MP3 music sourced from a CD into iTunes the file
name is severely truncated.   How can I overcome this?

Problem 2 - Can the file name (Name column in Music Library) be edited
within iTunes?

 

My music collection is in MP3 format with the bulk on data CDs.   I am
importing it all to my new iMac (iTunes 09) with storage on an external USB
HDD (Maxtor 500 MB equally partitioned for Time Machine and Music).
Original music sources include recent MP3 downloads from Naxos Classics
Online, CDs, audio streaming and files created from cassettes and vinyl LPs.

 

Many imported files display their full 60 character filenames in iTunes.
However if the original source was a standard CD the iTunes library Name
column only displays the first 30 characters of the track filename.The
full 60 character filename is displayed in Finder.   This is a significant
problem:  I now have, for example, a dozen tracks with Name of .I need to know the rest of the filename giving
concerto, movement and opus numbers!   The filename in Finder displays the
full description which includes the remaining characters such as .  

 

The Naxos files (downloaded in MP3 format) and all home recorded tracks from
vinyl LPs etc display their full file names in iTunes.

 

There is no difference in truncation if I import the data CD by dragging the
icon into iTunes, copy a single file, or play a track and allow iTunes to
automatically add it to the library.

 

Regards

Alan

 

iMac 21.5" Nov 2009

Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06 GHz / 4 MB

OSX 10.6.2 Snow Leopard

 



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Cleaning an iTunes Library

[Ronda Brown]

Hi WAMUGers,

Quite a few people have been asking how to clean up their iTunes  
library ... find duplicates, correct ID3 tags, & missing cover art.

A good article below at Macworld:

<http://www.macworld.com/article/142981/2009/09/clean_itunes_library.html?lsrc=nl_mwweek_h_cbstories 
>


Cheers,
Ronni

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2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Stuart Breden]

Works wonderfully opening a plain text file in numbers.

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On 06/03/2009, at 6:20 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

You can also do Library / "export playlist" from within the library  
or any playlist.
export as plain or unicode (for non western characters) text which  
doesn't say it in the export  but is tab delimited.
this can then be imported in to pretty much any spreadsheet and/or  
database program.


you can also export as xml if you have a need for that



Hello WAMUGers,

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking  
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)

This is what I did:

1. In iTunes click Music Library

2. Edit > Select All

3. Edit > Copy

4. Open Numbers (or another Spreadsheet Application you use)

5. Choose a Blank Template

6. Click on Second Row (I left Row One for Headers, as you need to  
type them in when tidying up the Spreadsheet)


7. Edit > Paste & Match Style

It takes awhile to do the paste (spinning Beach Ball- depends on  
amount of songs in your library). I thought "This is not going to  
work"
But eventually you end up with your Library Listing pasted in  
neatly with columns as in iTunes.


Change column widths if required, and type in headers (column Names)
I have 10 columns - Name / Time / Artist / Album / Genre / Size /  
Kind / Composer / Year / Release Date




This would also work if you Select All & Copy from a specific  
playlist, so you could create a track listing of a playlist you  
burned to a CD.


Someone on List might find this useful 

Cheers,
Ronni


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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Reg Whitely]

Ronni
Does that mean you have taken over from Cloe on WAMUG again?
I was beginning to enjoy her posts ;-)

Reg

On 07/03/2009, at 5:53 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Get out of here!
I thought it was pretty useful actually ;-)

I'm out of here now, its time for a glass of Champagne on the  
balcony, and Miss Cloe is pestering me to close my MacBook Pro and  
get her dinner!


Cheers,
Ronni & "Miss Cloe the impatient one"

On 07/03/2009, at 4:51 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote:

Thanks for this Ronni.I really like it when you have nothing  
constructive to do 


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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Ronda Brown]

Get out of here!
I thought it was pretty useful actually ;-)

I'm out of here now, its time for a glass of Champagne on the balcony,  
and Miss Cloe is pestering me to close my MacBook Pro and get her  
dinner!


Cheers,
Ronni & "Miss Cloe the impatient one"

On 07/03/2009, at 4:51 PM, Wendy S. Austin wrote:

Thanks for this Ronni.I really like it when you have nothing  
constructive to do 


Wendy
On 06/03/2009, at 1:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking  
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)



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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Wendy S. Austin]

Thanks for this Ronni.I really like it when you have nothing  
constructive to do 


Wendy
On 06/03/2009, at 1:12 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking  
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)



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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Ronda Brown]

Hello Mark,

Have you done this in Numbers '09? It does not hold the same format as  
in the Library in iTunes when exported this way & dropped into Numbers.
The way I gave instructions below, holds all format exactly as it is  
in iTunes Library.


Cheers,
Ronni


On 06/03/2009, at 6:20 PM, Mark Secker wrote:

You can also do Library / "export playlist" from within the library  
or any playlist.
export as plain or unicode (for non western characters) text which  
doesn't say it in the export  but is tab delimited.
this can then be imported in to pretty much any spreadsheet and/or  
database program.


you can also export as xml if you have a need for that



Hello WAMUGers,

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking  
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)

This is what I did:

1. In iTunes click Music Library

2. Edit > Select All

3. Edit > Copy

4. Open Numbers (or another Spreadsheet Application you use)

5. Choose a Blank Template

6. Click on Second Row (I left Row One for Headers, as you need to  
type them in when tidying up the Spreadsheet)


7. Edit > Paste & Match Style

It takes awhile to do the paste (spinning Beach Ball- depends on  
amount of songs in your library). I thought "This is not going to  
work"
But eventually you end up with your Library Listing pasted in  
neatly with columns as in iTunes.


Change column widths if required, and type in headers (column Names)
I have 10 columns - Name / Time / Artist / Album / Genre / Size /  
Kind / Composer / Year / Release Date




This would also work if you Select All & Copy from a specific  
playlist, so you could create a track listing of a playlist you  
burned to a CD.


Someone on List might find this useful 

Cheers,
Ronni



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Re: iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Mark Secker]

You can also do Library / "export playlist" from within the library 
or any playlist.
export as plain or unicode (for non western characters) text which 
doesn't say it in the export  but is tab delimited.
this can then be imported in to pretty much any spreadsheet and/or 
database program.


you can also export as xml if you have a need for that



Hello WAMUGers,

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking 
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)

This is what I did:

1. In iTunes click Music Library

2. Edit > Select All

3. Edit > Copy

4. Open Numbers (or another Spreadsheet Application you use)

5. Choose a Blank Template

6. Click on Second Row (I left Row One for Headers, as you need to 
type them in when tidying up the Spreadsheet)


7. Edit > Paste & Match Style

It takes awhile to do the paste (spinning Beach Ball- depends on 
amount of songs in your library). I thought "This is not going to 
work"
But eventually you end up with your Library Listing pasted in neatly 
with columns as in iTunes.


Change column widths if required, and type in headers (column Names)
I have 10 columns - Name / Time / Artist / Album / Genre / Size / 
Kind / Composer / Year / Release Date




This would also work if you Select All & Copy from a specific 
playlist, so you could create a track listing of a playlist you 
burned to a CD.


Someone on List might find this useful 

Cheers,
Ronni


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iTunes Library in a Spreadsheet

[Ronda Brown]

Hello WAMUGers,

I was 'fiddling' around with Numbers '09 today, and I got thinking  
perhaps I could do a Spreadsheet of my iTunes Library.

(Ok Daniel, I couldn't find anything more constructive to do) ;-)

This is what I did:

1. In iTunes click Music Library

2. Edit > Select All

3. Edit > Copy

4. Open Numbers (or another Spreadsheet Application you use)

5. Choose a Blank Template

6. Click on Second Row (I left Row One for Headers, as you need to  
type them in when tidying up the Spreadsheet)


7. Edit > Paste & Match Style

It takes awhile to do the paste (spinning Beach Ball- depends on  
amount of songs in your library). I thought "This is not going to work"
But eventually you end up with your Library Listing pasted in neatly  
with columns as in iTunes.


Change column widths if required, and type in headers (column Names)
I have 10 columns - Name / Time / Artist / Album / Genre / Size /  
Kind / Composer / Year / Release Date




This would also work if you Select All & Copy from a specific  
playlist, so you could create a track listing of a playlist you burned  
to a CD.


Someone on List might find this useful 

Cheers,
Ronni


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RE: iTunes Library

[David Moyle]

Hi Severin

If you hunt you should also find it with its mates in the Podcast Directory.

Apple made this change late in the v6 versions I believe, that PodCasts are
also stored in the Music directory and not just the Podcast directory. Why?
Must be some logic to it..

Thanks, David Moyle
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Subject: iTunes Library

I recently downloaded a podcast which appears in iTunes as a podcast  
but is in my Music Library.  How do I move it be with its mates in  
the Podcasts Library?
Severin Crisp

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iTunes Library

[Severin Crisp]

I recently downloaded a podcast which appears in iTunes as a podcast  
but is in my Music Library.  How do I move it be with its mates in  
the Podcasts Library?

Severin Crisp

   Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP
   15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia.
Phone  (08) 9842 1950   (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950)
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Re: iPhoto not recognising iTunes library.

[Dark1]

Sorry but I don't think I'm going to be able to help you.  I just  
tried encoding one of my songs into AAC format to see if it would  
present a problem.  Worked just fine.  I did have to move up a bar at  
the bottom to be able to see what I can select but aside from that no  
issues.


In your quest for a solution it may be helpful to you to see if the  
same problem presents its-self in iMovie or iDVD.


Good luck.
Ruben A. Franke

Just curious... What format are your music files in?  I'm assuming  
if you've tried new playlists with iTunes then this problem also  
occurs for playlists along with the iTunes music library.




They're all in AAC format, and iTunes is running normally.  I just  
can't get access to any of my iTunes library through iPhoto.


Cheers!


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iPhoto not recognising iTunes library.

[Callum Prior]

Howdy all,

I'm having trouble getting iPhoto to recognise my iTunes library to 
access music for slideshows.  When you go to select the music 'Sample 
Music' is available, but 'no iTunes Music Library' is greyed out.


Running:
iTunes 4.8
iPhoto 4.0.3
OSX 10.3.9

I've run through the suggestion in iPhoto help thus:

"Recreate your iTunes Music Library.xml file. Quit iPhoto, iMovie, 
iDVD, and iTunes. Click the Finder icon in the Dock, and choose Go > Go 
to Folder. Type "~/Music/iTunes" or "~/Documents/iTunes" and click Go. 
Drag the "iTunes Music Library.xml" file to your desktop. Open iTunes 
and create a new playlist by choosing File > New Playlist. Quit iTunes 
and open iPhoto to make sure you can see your iTunes library when 
creating a slideshow."


But to no avail.  Any ideas?

Cheers!

Callum

Re: itunes library problem

[Dark Servant]

Oh, ok.  I see your problem now.  I have a 15 Gb iPod so I never have 
to worry about management.  Unfortunately I don't know how to help you 
with your problem although a friend of mine has had a similar problem 
with "songs not found" in iTunes.  I think it was solved when he 
updated iTunes by reinstalling a newer version.
Perhaps you could try reinstalling iTunes and repeating your earlier 
process.  I'm not sure it will work but it's worth a try.


Sorry I couldn't be of more help
Ruben A. Franke


How many playlists do you have and how important are they?  It sounds
like it may just be easier to remake your playlists and start with a
blank library.  I know you don't want to do this but using the smart
playlist feature might make this a little easier than you expected.
I've got about 1150 songs in iTunes and I usually don't bother with
playlists.  I keep my songs on random and use the browse feature to
specialise for artists or albums when I'm in the mood for it.

Good luck anyway
Ruben A. Franke



I have tailored the playlists so that a subset of 10 playlists just 
fits

nicely on my ipod (one of the first 5GB ones) and the pod is set to
synchronise with just these playlists. I tend to use the playlists on 
the
ipod a lot and this approach makes it easier to vary the ipod a little 
(just

keep the playlist total under 5GB).

If there is no other way then, of course, I'll have to do it manually. 
It
just annoys me that it works for about half the albums but not the 
rest -

makes me think I'm overlooking something obvious? (Though obviously not
obvious to me!!)

Any ideas out there?

TIA

Neil
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Re: itunes library problem

[Neil Houghton]

on 11/10/03 15:45, Dark Servant at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> How many playlists do you have and how important are they?  It sounds
> like it may just be easier to remake your playlists and start with a
> blank library.  I know you don't want to do this but using the smart
> playlist feature might make this a little easier than you expected.
> I've got about 1150 songs in iTunes and I usually don't bother with
> playlists.  I keep my songs on random and use the browse feature to
> specialise for artists or albums when I'm in the mood for it.
> 
> Good luck anyway
> Ruben A. Franke
> 

I have tailored the playlists so that a subset of 10 playlists just fits
nicely on my ipod (one of the first 5GB ones) and the pod is set to
synchronise with just these playlists. I tend to use the playlists on the
ipod a lot and this approach makes it easier to vary the ipod a little (just
keep the playlist total under 5GB).

If there is no other way then, of course, I'll have to do it manually. It
just annoys me that it works for about half the albums but not the rest -
makes me think I'm overlooking something obvious? (Though obviously not
obvious to me!!)

Any ideas out there?

TIA

Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
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Fax: +61 8 9841 6137
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Re: itunes library problem

[Dark Servant]

How many playlists do you have and how important are they?  It sounds 
like it may just be easier to remake your playlists and start with a 
blank library.  I know you don't want to do this but using the smart 
playlist feature might make this a little easier than you expected.
I've got about 1150 songs in iTunes and I usually don't bother with 
playlists.  I keep my songs on random and use the browse feature to 
specialise for artists or albums when I'm in the mood for it.


Good luck anyway
Ruben A. Franke


Hi all,

I'm just in the process of reconfiguring  my imac - re-formated disc,
installed 10.2 & 9.2.2, updated to 10.2.8, updated to itunes 4.0.1 etc.

I'm also migrating some info functions over from my powerbook, eg I 
used to
keep all my music on my powerbook but the 10GB disc is getting very 
crowded

so decided to use the imac (60GB drive). Eventually when everything is
running smoothly on the imac, I'll re-configure the powerbook 
(currently

running OS 9.1)

Connected two computers by ethernet, mounted PB disc on iMac and 
copied over

the itunes music folder and replaced the existing music folder.

Since I've spent some time setting up playlists etc, I wanted to use my
existing library - itunes music library (2) since the powerbook is 
currently
running itunes 2.0.2. Now I did this exercise before between two 
computers
and it worked fine if you renamed the library to suit - so I deleted 
the
existing default itunes 4 Music Library and renamed the transfered 
library
and (on second attempt after changing all read/write privileges to 
match)

success - the old library and playlists all show up - except for:

PROBLEM 1

Whilst a large portion of the playlists/library is working fine, for 
many
other tracks the library can't find the music - I can then follow the 
"would
you like to locate it" route successfully - but this only seem to work 
on a
track by track basis - not something I want to do with thousands of 
tracks.
Consolidating the library clarifies the problem in that the "!" is 
shown

against all the tracks with a problem

I've looked for some pattern in what it can find and it seems:

1)  problem seems to be at album level - ie all the tracks in an album 
are

OK or all are problematic.

2)  Problem is not at artist level - ie one artist folder can contain a
problem album & an OK album.

The library itself wouldn't be a problem if not for the playlists - I 
could
just start with a blank library and drop the music folder onto it. 
However

then I'd lose the playlists.

Any suggestions to avoid me having to set up the library and playlists 
again

manually would be most gratefully received!

TIA

Neil

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[Neil Houghton]

Hi all,

I'm just in the process of reconfiguring  my imac - re-formated disc,
installed 10.2 & 9.2.2, updated to 10.2.8, updated to itunes 4.0.1 etc.

I'm also migrating some info functions over from my powerbook, eg I used to
keep all my music on my powerbook but the 10GB disc is getting very crowded
so decided to use the imac (60GB drive). Eventually when everything is
running smoothly on the imac, I'll re-configure the powerbook (currently
running OS 9.1)

Connected two computers by ethernet, mounted PB disc on iMac and copied over
the itunes music folder and replaced the existing music folder.

Since I've spent some time setting up playlists etc, I wanted to use my
existing library - itunes music library (2) since the powerbook is currently
running itunes 2.0.2. Now I did this exercise before between two computers
and it worked fine if you renamed the library to suit - so I deleted the
existing default itunes 4 Music Library and renamed the transfered library
and (on second attempt after changing all read/write privileges to match)
success - the old library and playlists all show up - except for:

PROBLEM 1

Whilst a large portion of the playlists/library is working fine, for many
other tracks the library can't find the music - I can then follow the "would
you like to locate it" route successfully - but this only seem to work on a
track by track basis - not something I want to do with thousands of tracks.
Consolidating the library clarifies the problem in that the "!" is shown
against all the tracks with a problem

I've looked for some pattern in what it can find and it seems:

1)  problem seems to be at album level - ie all the tracks in an album are
OK or all are problematic.

2)  Problem is not at artist level - ie one artist folder can contain a
problem album & an OK album.

The library itself wouldn't be a problem if not for the playlists - I could
just start with a blank library and drop the music folder onto it. However
then I'd lose the playlists.

Any suggestions to avoid me having to set up the library and playlists again
manually would be most gratefully received!

TIA

Neil

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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Fax: +61 8 9841 6137
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