Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:42 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Peter,
>   My Mac Mini is late 2009 and the Macbook Pro is 2012.  The 
> intertersting thing I did notice was that the shared doc was not visible on 
> the draft email but appeared as an attachment on the delivered email which 
> actually arrived stating “This message has no content”.  I guess all will 
> iron out in due course.
> 
> John
> 

I’m rapidly coming to the conclusion that the problem has more to do with Pages 
’09 than with anything else. The Share feature works as expected in Pages 5. 
Unfortunately, we are unlikely to see a fix of any sort from Apple. If they 
would just restore some key features from Pages ’09 in Pages 5 the problem 
would be solved. As time goes this seems more and more unlikely as well. 

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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[John Thompson]

Hi Peer,
Have never used the Share function but following your email, I tried to 
send a pages doc to myself and it worked fine. I upgraded both the Mac Mini and 
the Macbnook Pro to El Capitan three days ago and find a significant speed 
increase.  Have not looked further into the system as yet.

Regards

John Thompson

> On 6 Oct 2015, at 7:22 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 5 Oct 2015, at 10:17 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Struth Peter … that must be frustrating.
>> And considering that Filemaker is an offshoot of Apple anyway.
>> Goodness me … they should have had their act together really !
>> 
> 
> 
> Yes, it’s puzzling to say the least, but by no means an isolated instance. I 
> remember it happening with several recent OS X  upgrades. One becomes a 
> grasshopper and learns patience…
> 
> BTW - another nasty discovery in El Capitan: the Share function is broken. 
> The convenient process whereby you can choose “Share” in an app (eg Pages) 
> and send the current document to someone via email as a Pages, Word or PDF 
> file no longer works. The option is there but it just doesn’t work. I have 
> found a couple suggestions to fix it, but have yet to try them out. I’ll be 
> interested to hear from anyone who has got this to work, an under what 
> circumstances. 
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:00 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peer,
>   Have never used the Share function but following your email, I tried to 
> send a pages doc to myself and it worked fine. I upgraded both the Mac Mini 
> and the Macbnook Pro to El Capitan three days ago and find a significant 
> speed increase.  Have not looked further into the system as yet.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Thompson
> 
>> 

OK, that’s interesting. I’ve just read something in the latest issue of tidbits 
that suggests the problem may be related to the age of the Mac. I’ve seen the 
problem on a client’s Mac which is 4 or 5 years old, but haven’t tested it on 
my more recent Macbook Pro. I’ll keep watching...

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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[John Thompson]

Hello Peter,
My Mac Mini is late 2009 and the Macbook Pro is 2012.  The 
intertersting thing I did notice was that the shared doc was not visible on the 
draft email but appeared as an attachment on the delivered email which actually 
arrived stating “This message has no content”.  I guess all will iron out in 
due course.

John

> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:15 AM, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 6 Oct 2015, at 8:00 am, John Thompson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Peer,
>>  Have never used the Share function but following your email, I tried to 
>> send a pages doc to myself and it worked fine. I upgraded both the Mac Mini 
>> and the Macbnook Pro to El Capitan three days ago and find a significant 
>> speed increase.  Have not looked further into the system as yet.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John Thompson
>> 
>>> 
> 
> OK, that’s interesting. I’ve just read something in the latest issue of 
> tidbits that suggests the problem may be related to the age of the Mac. I’ve 
> seen the problem on a client’s Mac which is 4 or 5 years old, but haven’t 
> tested it on my more recent Macbook Pro. I’ll keep watching...
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 5 Oct 2015, at 10:17 am, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Struth Peter … that must be frustrating.
> And considering that Filemaker is an offshoot of Apple anyway.
> Goodness me … they should have had their act together really !
> 


Yes, it’s puzzling to say the least, but by no means an isolated instance. I 
remember it happening with several recent OS X  upgrades. One becomes a 
grasshopper and learns patience…

BTW - another nasty discovery in El Capitan: the Share function is broken. The 
convenient process whereby you can choose “Share” in an app (eg Pages) and send 
the current document to someone via email as a Pages, Word or PDF file no 
longer works. The option is there but it just doesn’t work. I have found a 
couple suggestions to fix it, but have yet to try them out. I’ll be interested 
to hear from anyone who has got this to work, an under what circumstances. 

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Stephen Chape]

Struth Peter … that must be frustrating.
And considering that Filemaker is an offshoot of Apple anyway.
Goodness me … they should have had their act together really !


> On 5 Oct 2015, at 8:12 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>> 
>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
>> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>> working correctly.
>> 
>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
>> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>> 
>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>> 
>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>> 
>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>> 
>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>> 
>> Philippe C.
>> 
>> 
> 
> There are some important applications which have been affected by the 
> upgrade, two of which are preventing me from moving to El Capitan fulltime. 
> One is Microsoft Office 2016, which I’ve recently purchased, and the other is 
> Filemaker Pro 14, upon which I depend to make a living. Both products have 
> been pinpointed as being unstable in El Capitan. The Filemaker fix is 
> projected for later this month, and I have no idea when the Office fix will 
> arrive. I can get by with Office 2011, but the Filemaker 14 issues is a deal 
> breaker for me. I have El Capitan installed on an external drive so I can 
> become familiar with it, but I’ll just need to patient until Filemaker gets 
> their act together.
> 
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> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
> 
> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
> working correctly.
> 
> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
> 
> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
> permissions. I guess this is good news?
> 
> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know how 
> they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full back-up and 
> an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
> 
> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
> 
> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
> 
> Philippe C.
> 
> 

There are some important applications which have been affected by the upgrade, 
two of which are preventing me from moving to El Capitan fulltime. One is 
Microsoft Office 2016, which I’ve recently purchased, and the other is 
Filemaker Pro 14, upon which I depend to make a living. Both products have been 
pinpointed as being unstable in El Capitan. The Filemaker fix is projected for 
later this month, and I have no idea when the Office fix will arrive. I can get 
by with Office 2011, but the Filemaker 14 issues is a deal breaker for me. I 
have El Capitan installed on an external drive so I can become familiar with 
it, but I’ll just need to patient until Filemaker gets their act together.

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Stephen,

> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
> or has become redundant. 

You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
> 
> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
> 
> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
> or has become redundant. 
> 
> Cheers & nice week-end, 
> 
> Philippe C
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hello Phillipe,
> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
> I still run that before and after every update.
> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
> updates.
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>> 
>> Safe week-end to All, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:
>> 
>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
>> from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are 
>> under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
>>> and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>>> working correctly.
>>> 
>>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum 
>>> speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>>> 
>>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>>> 
>>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>>> 
>>> Philippe C.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
 wrote:
 
 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
 
 Hi Philippe,
 Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
 MacBookPro).
 Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
 warn you that it does.
 There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
 check updates.
 It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
 afterwards. I will try again later.
 Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
 redundant?, auto?
 I did look Ronni!
>>> 
>>> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
>>> this at
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Stephen Chape]

Thanks Ronni
Sounds brilliant to me !

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 5:54 pm, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
> 
> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
>> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
>> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
>> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
>> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
>> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
>> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> Cheers & nice week-end, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Phillipe,
>> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
>> I still run that before and after every update.
>> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
>> updates.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>>> 
>>> Safe week-end to All, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous 
>>> upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most 
>>> improvements are under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
 
 Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
 and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel 
 is working correctly.
 
 One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, 
 which after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its 
 maximum speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, 
 and no applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with 
 no luck and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the 
 problem. 
 
 Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
 permissions. I guess this is good news?
 
 I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
 applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am 
 a bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not 
 know how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
 back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
 
 Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
 
 Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
 
 Philippe C.
 
 
 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe > wrote:
 
 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
> warn you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
> 
> 
 
 Permissions repair and verify have 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Michael Hawkins]

Hi Ronni, 

Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released every 
three weeks or so ?

Cheers,

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
> 
> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen, 
>> 
>> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
>> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
>> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
>> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
>> 
>> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
>> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
>> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
>> 
>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> Cheers & nice week-end, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Phillipe,
>> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
>> I still run that before and after every update.
>> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
>> updates.
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Robin,
>>> 
>>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>>> 
>>> Safe week-end to All, 
>>> 
>>> Philippe C
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous 
>>> upgrade from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most 
>>> improvements are under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
 
 Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
 and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel 
 is working correctly.
 
 One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, 
 which after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its 
 maximum speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, 
 and no applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with 
 no luck and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the 
 problem. 
 
 Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
 permissions. I guess this is good news?
 
 I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
 applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am 
 a bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not 
 know how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
 back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
 
 Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
 
 Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
 
 Philippe C.
 
 
 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
> warn you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
 
 Permissions repair and 

Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Michael,

To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair Permissions” 
using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. I’ll reply to the list 
in another email with a suitable subject heading.

Cheers,
Ronni

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 1:21 am, Michael Hawkins  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni, 
> 
> Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
> every three weeks or so ?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown > 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>>> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
>>> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
>>> version, or has become redundant. 
>> 
>> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
>> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>> 

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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Michael Hawkins]

Thanks Ronni.

Michael

Sent from my iPhone

> On 4 Oct 2015, at 9:39 AM, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> To answer your question, I’ll need to explain to you what “Repair 
> Permissions” using Disk Utility in OS X prior to El Capitan repaired. I’ll 
> reply to the list in another email with a suitable subject heading.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>> On 4 Oct 2015, at 1:21 am, Michael Hawkins 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni, 
>> 
>> Going by how often running "repair permissions" seemed to work for me, does 
>> this mean (a) I was deluded (b) Apple has sorted something out that had 
>> lingered for a long time or (c) software updates are going to be released 
>> every three weeks or so ?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Michael
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 3 Oct 2015, at 6:54 PM, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
 One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
 either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS 
 version, or has become redundant. 
>>> 
>>> You can no longer repair permissions on a drive in Disk Utility. 
>>> Instead, Apple automatically repairs permissions during software update.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> Sent from Ronni's iPad4
>>> 
> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Stephen Chape]

Hello Phillipe,
Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
I still run that before and after every update.
And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for updates.

> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
> 
> Safe week-end to All, 
> 
> Philippe C
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  > wrote:
> 
> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
> from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are 
> under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>> 
>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
>> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>> working correctly.
>> 
>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
>> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>> 
>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>> 
>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>> 
>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>> 
>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>> 
>> Philippe C.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Philippe,
>>> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
>>> MacBookPro).
>>> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
>>> you that it does.
>>> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
>>> check updates.
>>> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
>>> afterwards. I will try again later.
>>> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
>>> redundant?, auto?
>>> I did look Ronni!
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
>> this at
>> 
>> >  
>> >
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Stephen, 

Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has disappeared, 
possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 

I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to El 
Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running there 
seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 

One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
or has become redundant. 

Cheers & nice week-end, 

Philippe C

On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:

Hello Phillipe,
Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
I still run that before and after every update.
And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for updates.

> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Robin,
> 
> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
> 
> Safe week-end to All, 
> 
> Philippe C
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  > wrote:
> 
> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
> from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are 
> under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>> 
>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
>> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>> working correctly.
>> 
>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
>> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>> 
>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>> 
>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>> 
>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>> 
>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>> 
>> Philippe C.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Philippe,
>>> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
>>> MacBookPro).
>>> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
>>> you that it does.
>>> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
>>> check updates.
>>> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
>>> afterwards. I will try again later.
>>> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
>>> redundant?, auto?
>>> I did look Ronni!
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
>> this at
>> 
>> >  
>> >
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Robin,

Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just done 
it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My other iMac 
is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party applications, so 
far, have worked without complaints. 

Safe week-end to All, 

Philippe C


On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin  wrote:

Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are under 
the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 

On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon > wrote:

> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
> 
> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
> working correctly.
> 
> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
> 
> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
> permissions. I guess this is good news?
> 
> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know how 
> they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full back-up and 
> an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
> 
> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
> 
> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
> 
> Philippe C.
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  > wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Philippe,
>> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
>> MacBookPro).
>> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
>> you that it does.
>> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
>> check updates.
>> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
>> afterwards. I will try again later.
>> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
>> redundant?, auto?
>> I did look Ronni!
>> 
>> 
> 
> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
> this at
> 
>   
> >
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Phillipe.
You too !


> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:36 pm, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen, 
> 
> Yes, when I opened the updated Disk Utility (version 15.0), under the tab 
> ‘First Aid’ it advises it will check the volume for errors, and repair the 
> volume if necessary. No mention of Repair Permission which now has 
> disappeared, possibly not required anymore under El Capitan. 
> 
> I did run Repair Disk Permissions when under Yosemite prior to upgrading to 
> El Capitan as per Ronni’s usual advice. Once El Capitan was up and running 
> there seem to be no need to repair Permissions. 
> 
> One of our illuminatis, Ronni/Peter/Daniel, would be able to confirm that 
> either Permissions are being repaired automatically under the new OS version, 
> or has become redundant. 
> 
> Cheers & nice week-end, 
> 
> Philippe C
> 
> On 2 Oct 2015, at 10:03 pm, Stephen Chape  > wrote:
> 
> Hello Phillipe,
> Is that correct about Repairing Disk Permissions.
> I still run that before and after every update.
> And I believe that Ronni still includes it in her list of “to do’s” for 
> updates.
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 5:07 pm, Philippe Chaperon > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robin,
>> 
>> Many thanks for SuperDuper! I did not know there was a recent update. Just 
>> done it and this weekend I will move my main iMac to El Capitan also. My 
>> other iMac is purring beautifully with the latest OS and my third party 
>> applications, so far, have worked without complaints. 
>> 
>> Safe week-end to All, 
>> 
>> Philippe C
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 1:22 pm, Robin > > wrote:
>> 
>> Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
>> from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are 
>> under the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
>> Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
>> Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon > > wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated 
>>> and needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
>>> working correctly.
>>> 
>>> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
>>> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum 
>>> speed although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
>>> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
>>> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
>>> 
>>> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
>>> permissions. I guess this is good news?
>>> 
>>> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
>>> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
>>> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know 
>>> how they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full 
>>> back-up and an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
>>> 
>>> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
>>> 
>>> Philippe C.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey > wrote:
 
 Hi Philippe,
 Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
 MacBookPro).
 Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they 
 warn you that it does.
 There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
 check updates.
 It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
 afterwards. I will try again later.
 Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
 redundant?, auto?
 I did look Ronni!
 
 
>>> 
>>> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
>>> this at
>>> 
>>> >>  
>>> >
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I 

the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Brian Risbey]

Hi All,

Just rebooted with El Capitan 10.11,

Taken 11 hours, spinning beachball has been simplified.

Brian
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Brian and All, 

Thanks for the report. Have you had a chance to test your applications, 
specially any non-Apple ones e.g. MS Office, Gimp, etc?

I have finished downloading El Condor Pa... no! I mean El Capitan which took 
close to 2 hours, but the installation is taking some time to finish. I hope 
the iMac will boot tomorrow morning when I will be able to check the various 
applications I have. 

Good night to everyone, 

Philippe C

On 1 Oct 2015, at 10:30 pm, Brian Risbey  wrote:

Hi All,

Just rebooted with El Capitan 10.11,

Taken 11 hours, spinning beachball has been simplified.

Brian
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Brian Risbey]

Hi Philippe,
Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" MacBookPro).
Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn you 
that it does.
There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so check 
updates.
It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and afterwards. 
I will try again later.
Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, redundant?, 
auto?
I did look Ronni!

Brian
Sent from my iPhone6 Plus
iOS 9.0 

On 2 Oct 2015, at 01:24, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:

Hi Brian and All, 

Thanks for the report. Have you had a chance to test your applications, 
specially any non-Apple ones e.g. MS Office, Gimp, etc?

I have finished downloading El Condor Pa... no! I mean El Capitan which took 
close to 2 hours, but the installation is taking some time to finish. I hope 
the iMac will boot tomorrow morning when I will be able to check the various 
applications I have. 

Good night to everyone, 

Philippe C

On 1 Oct 2015, at 10:30 pm, Brian Risbey  wrote:

Hi All,

Just rebooted with El Capitan 10.11,

Taken 11 hours, spinning beachball has been simplified.

Brian
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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
> you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
> 
> 

Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
this at

>

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Re: the spinning beach ball has changed!

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Brian, Peter and All, 

Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is working 
correctly.

One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no applications 
hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck and finally had 
to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 

Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
permissions. I guess this is good news?

I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a bit 
apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know how they 
will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full back-up and an 
external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!

Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 

Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,

Philippe C.



On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:


> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  > wrote:
> 
> Hi Philippe,
> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
> MacBookPro).
> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
> you that it does.
> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
> check updates.
> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
> afterwards. I will try again later.
> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
> redundant?, auto?
> I did look Ronni!
> 
> 

Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
this at

>

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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[Robin]

Upgrading from Yosemite to El Capitan can be equated to the previous upgrade 
from Leopard to Snow Leopard. It's a no brainer but most improvements are under 
the hood and you may not necessarily notice them. 
Upgrade SuperDuper before you upgrade the OS. 
Repairing permissions became irrelevant a few versions ago. 

> On 2 Oct 2015, at 12:56 PM, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Brian, Peter and All, 
> 
> Many thanks again for the valuable information. My iMac has been updated and 
> needed a couple of restarts. I have checked MS Office 2011 and Excel is 
> working correctly.
> 
> One thing which happened thought is that the cooling fan of the iMac, which 
> after a year of usage had never been heard, was working at its maximum speed 
> although the internal temperatures were will within norms, and no 
> applications hoarding the CPU. I tried restarting the machine with no luck 
> and finally had to resort to a Reset of the SMC which solved the problem. 
> 
> Thanks to both for the Disk utility info re loss of verify and repair 
> permissions. I guess this is good news?
> 
> I’ll wait for some time before upgrading my main iMac on which I have some 
> applications running constantly - Seti@home, AstroPulse and Rosetta. I am a 
> bit apprehensive mainly for Parallels and VM Ware Fusion as I do not know how 
> they will perform. Before taking the plunge I will update my full back-up and 
> an external disc, using my trusty SuperDuper, just in case!
> 
> Have a wonderful afternoon and a very safe week-end. 
> 
> Kind regards dear WAMUG’ers,
> 
> Philippe C.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:57 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2 Oct 2015, at 7:42 am, Brian Risbey  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Philippe,
>> Office, latest, just upgraded is working, mail fine, (I have a 17" 
>> MacBookPro).
>> Yes, reboot took longer than suggested, does restart a few times, they warn 
>> you that it does.
>> There are some system voice upgrades to do after initial installation, so 
>> check updates.
>> It isn't letting me log into iCloud, tried during installation and 
>> afterwards. I will try again later.
>> Disk utility, only has First Aid, no verify and repair permissions, 
>> redundant?, auto?
>> I did look Ronni!
> 
> Permissions repair and verify have indeed gone. There is an explanation for 
> this at
> 
> 
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
> 
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