Barney & Thelma Lou

[Margaret Bentle]

While watching a local program today the host was interviewing Tuwanda
Coleman, who is retiring from co-hosting another local show. Retiring after
41 years at News Channel 5 in Nashville.
Ms. Coleman was talking about doing interviews with Don Knotts and Betty
Lynn, she said she loved watching The Andy Griffith Show. She said that was
one of the biggest thrills of her career.

You never know when TAGS will be in the conversation.

Margaret
Floyd: I'm going to Nashville.
Me: I already live in Nashville.
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Thelma Lou

[Janine L Johnson]

I taped an old movie and got around to watching it yesterday. It is 
titled "Cheaper by the Dozen" starring Clifton Webb, in which he is an 
efficiency expert with 12 children. In one part, he goes to a high 
school dance with his daughter to keep an eye on her and who turns up? 
There was our Thelma Lou as another  student recently moved there. She 
was adorable and had a thick southern accent. The movie was distributed 
in 1950, 11 years before Betty Lynn  first appeared in Mayberry. It sure 
was nice seeing her and hearing her charming voice. I admired her greatly.


Aunt Bee of Orlando


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Thelma Lou

[H S]

The closest I ever got to Betty Lynn was at one years Mayberry Days parade. I 
yelled at her when she passed by " Barney Messed Up moving to Raleigh !
Heres a picture from a friend which includes below the picture some details.

https://pbase.com/image/172057254
[https://a4.pbase.com/g12/76/350776/3/172057254.TgAVORTE.jpg]
Thelma Lou.jpg by Holland Shoaf
pbase.com


Holland


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Thelma Lou

[pmmscan]

May she rest in peace.Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S9+, an AT 5G Evolution 
capable smartphone
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Thelma Lou

[Janine L Johnson]

Early this morning I put the tv on TCM without even looking at it, not 
yet having fully awakened. Within minutes I recognized the sweet voice 
of our own Thelma Lou. She was only seen for a short time but her beauty 
and lovely voice were unmistakable. I later looked it up on IMBD and see 
that this role was uncredited; she was 29 at the time in 1955, not yet 
reaching the thrill of going to Mayberry! But it sure was fun running 
into her elsewhere!


Aunt Bee of Orlando


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"Thelma Lou"

[ctmidway58]

Betty Lynn, Thelma Lou, was in the parade Saturday as Grand PooBah and also was 
on stage for the opening ceremony, and also at Col Tim's Tlent Time where 
"Elvis" Michael Hoover sang to her, leading the rest of us, with "Hello, Thelma 
Lou" instead of Hello MaryLou. And she looked absolutely great! She spoke with 
clarity and from the heart! 
We love you, Betty Lynn! You will always be the gorgeous Thelma Lou!
Welford TheCameraNut

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Thelma Lou

[Deborah Slate]

I just watched Betty Lynn as Bridget on the "If I should live before I die"
(1978) episode of "Little House on the Prairie". Very pretty in nineteenth
century attire.
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Thelma Lou

[panderson431]

Happy Birthday Betty Lynn! And many more 

John 3:16 Thelma Anderson


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Thanks Thelma Lou

[panderson431]

Now that I look closer your absolutely right! 

John 3:16 Thelma Anderson


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Thelma Lou (Janet) is Never Late to The Party!

[John Graham]

   I just want to say that the posts from Thelma Lou (Janet) are, more
often than not, the "Life of the Party" and they never make her seem late
to the party. Most of her posts are spot on the subject and usually quite
interesting. I don't know her personally, but I just wanted to put in my
opinion based on what I have read on many of her posts.

Thanks For Listening,
Sheriff Poindexter

(John)
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Thelma Lou

[Elizabeth Busby]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY THELMA LOU Hope you have a good one. Elizabeth in Ga.
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Magical Thelma Lou

[Dan Goodwin]

In The Farmer Takes a Wife, Thelma Lou brings snacks in to the girls and
speaks to Jeff Pruitt.  She then says something about going to get coffee
and Jeff begins to move around the room to end up with Barney and Andy at
the front door.  This is a single camera shot so we even see Thelma Lou
disappear behind into the room behind the 3 guys while they talk about
Jeff's choice.  Then, as Jeff indicates the girl he has chosen, we get a
shot of the room full of girls and suddenly there's Thelma Lou with the
coffee.  How'd she get in there?  She didn't pass the 3 guys.

 

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Thelma Lou

[Elizabeth Busby]

I recall Thelma Lou saying hello to Annabell on the sidewalk when Barney
was looking for a wife for Andy and rounding up all single women to meet at
Andy's house. When Barney asked about her Thel told him she was married.
Did she say anything to Lydia or the 'nice, real nice' cousin? Elizabeth in
Ga
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Andy's Girls and Thelma Lou

[Harry Brewbaker]

Orville, I remember Barney and Thel over at Nurse Mary Simpson's ( the Sue Ann 
Langdon Mary Simpson not the Julie Adams) house singing Bringing Nellie Home.  
Barney's bongo solo was the highlight.  Peggy McMillan (Joanna Moore) was also 
in a couple episodes with Thelma Lou.  Not sure any of the others, unless you 
count Daphne of the Fun Girls.
  
Harry in Salem, Va

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Thelma Lou

[Jim and Nancy]

I recall Barney calling Thelma Lou  Thelma in one episode. In The 
Return of Barney Fife Barney says  Why it's Old Thel when Thelma Lou 
arrives at the class reunion.
Technically we learn of Thelma Lou's married name of Whitfield when 
she introduces her husband Gerald Whitfield.



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Thelma Lou

[Janine]

Let's hope Betty Lynn or her assistant reads our newsletter so she will 
convey our best wishes for a speedy recovery. We'll be keeping a good 
thought and sending her our prayers too.

Aunt Bee of Orlando

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Thelma Lou

[Cheryl Langille]

I saw a movie on TCM (wish I could remember the name) that had Betty Lynn 
playing the 16-year old babysitter. She was billed as Betty Ann Lynn. 

Cheryl 
Marietta, GA


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Elly May and Thelma Lou at the Andy Griffith Museum

[Jeff Koontz]

The link below has photos from Donna Douglas' and Betty Lynn's visit to the 
Andy Griffith Museum on August 1st.
http://www.surryarts.org/agmuseum/images/donnadouglas/index.html


Jeff


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Thelma Lou Tribute

[Dan Goodwin]

One of our local churches recently had a Mayberry-themed event.  Even had
some tribute actors, a Barney and a Thelma Lou.  First time I had heard
about a Thelma Lou tribute.  Are there others?

dan


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So, when did Thelma Lou punch Barney in the nose?

[Larry Grainger]

That would be the episode A Date for Gomer, when a date was arranged between 
Gomer and Thelma Lou's cousin, Mary Grace. After Gomer had seemingly bailed on 
Mary Grace and the other four were on their way to the dance, you hear the 
sound of a whack from the back seat and then we see Barney holding his nose 
because Thelma Lou had just socked him.  It is certainly a side of Thelma Lou 
that is seldom seen. 


 
In the Service of the King,

Larry J. Grainger

http://www.alcmtjuliet.com

 


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Thelma Lou

[Greg Boe]

I was watching an old episode of My Three Sons on ME TV as I ate breakfast
this morning, and I noticed that Steve Douglas's perky secretary looked
awfully familiar in an office scene at his job.  Upon closer examination I
realized it was Betty Lynn playing the part!  I can't recall seeing her on
that show on any kind of a regular basis, so it must have been a single
appearance. 

 

-Greg, from Mayberry of the North

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Thelma Lou

[jlj9675]

Thelma Lou once remarked that she had to get back to the office so I assume 
she was employed in a clerical position with some business downtown, as she 
was on foot and in the courthouse at that moment. I believe it was when the 
two couples got into a squabble and Barney had gotten her to come over to 
reconcile with Helen but in a sneaky way (she didn't appreciate it).
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Barney Smoking and Thelma Lou

[Ken Anderson]

Barney smoked a cigar when he found the money in the suitcase as he was
trying to be Mr. Big and catch the attention of the thief.

When Andy went to arrest the newspaper publisher in Raleigh, he took a
cigar for Barney saying that Barney liked to smoke one once in a while.

Also, a while back it was brought up about Thelma Lou going to church.  In
the episode where Barney and Thelma Lou had a big fight about not going
anywhere, Barney mentioned to Andy that he took Thelma Lou to church every
Sunday.  In Family Visit Andy mentioned that they went to the early
service at church, so perhaps Barney and Thelma Lou went to the later
service on most Sundays, so that is why we didn't see her.  Or else,she may
have been sitting behind Mr. Schwamp, and his hair blocked our view of her.

-- 
Ken Anderson
The Mayberry Guru
2906 May Street
Eau Claire, Wisconsin 54701
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Thelma Lou in Church

[m white]

TAGS fans,

As long as we're speculating ... I have noticed there are no babies in the All 
Souls Church.  Maybe Thelma Lou works in the nursery.  So she goes to church 
with Barney, then goes and takes care of the babies during the service (this is 
what my sister does).

Sam
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Thelma Lou

[Patty Haley]

 Thelma Lou.
 
Maybe Thelma Lou was Cathlolic? ;-)
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Miss Rosemary/Thelma-Lou

[Jeff Doege]

I Figure Miss Rosemary Was One Of Barney's Earliest Girlfriends, But When Did 
He Start Going With Thelma-Lou ? I Know He Met Her at Somebody's Funeral. JD

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I got to meet Thelma Lou today!

[David Oberly]

It was such a thrill. She's a lovely lady. The Andy Griffith museum is full of 
stuff too!! By the way, I took my mother there and we had to take her 3 dogs to 
the vet to be boarded for the day. I piled them in my car and then took a 
picture. The caption came to me dogs, dogs, dogs! 
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Meeting Thelma Lou tomorrow! 3/30/12

[David Oberly]

My mother and I are driving 180 miles each way tomorrow for her autograph 
session!! I am excited. It's 180 miles each way from Columbia, SC. 
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Thelma Lou

[Jerome Graber]

Just got to thinking, was Thelma Lou's last name ever mentioned on the show?


Jerry Graber  
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Stealing Thelma Lou

[Doug Johnson]

We were thinking the other day of how many times someone tried to steal 
Thelma 
Lou from Barney.
We thought of threeGomer, Opie, and that farmer we can't remember the name 
of. Can you think of anymore?
 
Don't forget Edgar Coleman...
 
And what ABOUT you and Edgar Coleman?


Doug Johnson
 
 
I think it is now too late to change the subject. 
  
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Stealing Thelma Lou

[hyperauntjan1]

You forgot ANDY! Remember when he sat on her porch swing and kissed her right 
on the jaw?!
 
Peggy
 
 Thelma Lou, you and me is star-crossed!




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Thelma Lou and Barney

[Timothy-Lindsey Ralston]

We were thinking the other day of how many times someone tried to steal 
Thelma 
Lou from Barney.
We thought of threeGomer, Opie, and that farmer we can't remember the name 
of.  Can you think of anymore?

-Barn  Thel in Arkansas
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Re: Thelma Lou Barney

[Susan Blank]

The farmer who tried to steal Thelma Lou was Big Jeff Pruitt.  And how about
Edgar Coleman, the fellow from church who spent an evening gluing hymnbook
covers with her?  What about her and Edgar Coleman?
That's all I can think of right now.  Anyone else?

Susi Blank
Miss Crump, many years later

Thelma Lou's my girl, everyone knows that, for heaven's sake!


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Thelma Lou

[Marcia Ott]

I happened to watch Mother was a Freshman with Loretta Young and who do you 
think was playing her daughter...the movie was made in 1949, and had Van 
Johnson in it.

That's C!!
Miz Lesh
out by ol' man Kelseys ocean


  

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RE: Thelma Lou in Little House on the Prairie

[Hughes, Clyde L. (HSC)]

That's pretty neat!  I didn't realize that Betty Lynn appeared on Little 
House.  
It seems that she deserved more in the episode than the part at the end, but 
any time she appears is newsworthy, in my book. 
She's such a wonderful lady!

Over and Under,
Clyde Barn

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Thelma Lou in Little House on the Prairie

[Timothy-Lindsey Ralston]

We were watching Little House on the Prairie the other night and noticed Thelma 
Lou in the If I Should Wake Before I Die episode.  She was in the end of the 
episode and played the daughter of an elderly woman who faked her death in 
order 
to see her family again.  It was neat to see her!  Of course, we like her best 
in Barney's hip pocket.  


Barn  Thel in Arkansas
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Re: Barney and Thelma Lou

[Brent Seguine]

They married in the TV-movie RETURN TO MAYBERRY (1986)





-Original Message-

Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 09:33:14 -0800 (PST)
rom: Richmond Lucille richmondluci...@att.net
o: wbmutbb@wbmutbb.com
ubject: Barney and Thelma Lou
 guess I must have missed an episode or two -- did Barney and Thelma Lou really 
et married?? I remember they walked by a furniture store window one night after 
 movie and were talking about decorating Barney's den, but I didn't know they 
eally got married!? 
ucille (Shoulda been in Miss Crump's Class) 

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Thelma Lou

[Jerome Graber]

Maybe I'm not as trained a noticer as you all, but I can't recall seeing an 
episode (or episodes)where Thelma Lou's last name is mentioned.  Is her last 
name ever given?


Jerry Graber

  
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Re: thelma lou, ken, and old times

[daltonarick]

I always wondered where Thelma Lou worked.  She would get off early, about the 
time Opie got out of school and she came from the direction of school.  I 
thought she might have taught or was the secretary.
I don't  think Ken hogged anything.  He has great contributions and knows. A 
lot   about Andy show. I think it is awesome he does the presentation about 
Andy and all.  
I think a lot about Andy and all he has given us.  There is only one movie he 
did I didn't like.  It was the one where he played a murderer and he was 
executed and they shaved his head.  It was the point of him getting killed, and 
I consider Andy family.
We have got away from many things besides work ethics.  Things like hats and 
dressing up and women wearing gloves and hankies.  Andy still gives us that and 
I think that is why the show remains so strong.
Sande Riggs
President
At the Crossroads
Chapter
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A Chat with Thelma Lou

[Holland Shoaf]

 

I was going through my local community college website and found this . U bet I 
will register !!

 

Holland

 

 

A Chat with Thelma Lou 
Reminisce with Betty Lynn about her adventures with Andy, Barney, Helen and the 
rest of the Mayberry townspeople. In addition, learn about her Broadway and 
Hollywood film career prior to the Andy Griffith Show. Autographed photo 
included with registration. 
CID # 21620
May 18 
Tuesday
6:30 p.m.-8:00 p.m., 2 ½   hours
Davie Campus, $15.00
  
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Thelma Lou Interview

[Ray Hadorn]

I didn't see this posted here yet so.

Betty Lynn, the actress who played Thelma Lou on the hit Andy Griffith Show
stopped by Your Carolina to talk about the new Andy Griffith Museum. Jack
Roper (the host of the show)had no idea she was coming. He's a huge fan. In
addition, here's all the info on how you can visit the museum.

http://www.yourcarolina.tv/ycvideo/entry/andy_griffith_museum/

It's great !

Ray


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Sharon and Thelma Lou

[Allan Newsome]

Can you believe that one caller thought Sharon Despain was Thelma Lou 
made up? I dispelled that rumor real quick.


That's been a fairly common question at Mayberry.com.  So much so, I 
made a web page with images of Peggy McCay (Sharon DeSpain) and Betty 
Lynn (Thelma Lou) so folks could see them side-by-side.


--Allan

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Thelma Lou and Otis and trivial trivialities

[GRITTON, JOE A (ATTOPS)]

On another subject, while Thelma Lou and Otis may have never
appeared together?on an episode of TAGS, Betty Lynn and Hal Smith were
both special guests at the 1989 Memphis Film Festival.

Brian Rodahaver
One Of Maryland's Biggest TAGS Fans!!!

Brian  I don't know of you caught this, because the question went on
several days before the answer was given.. and then accurately refuted,
but Helen, Thelma Lou, AND OTIS did all appear of the Episode  the
Arrest of the Fun Girls episode #155.  This has been verified by the
machines down at the bank..and they're god machines.

Now I gotta think about Mike, the Scamp's question...that newspaper??.
I may have to call in the Boys at the lab.

Hey Allen, on that Buzz Fluehart quote, didn't Barney also say they
laughed at Alexander Graham Bell right over the telephone?

The Untrained Voice

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Thelma Lou Blowing a Kiss

[Ken Anderson]

Wow Debbie, the real Thelma Lou blew you a kiss when you watched the parade. 
How special is that?  Closest I ever got to that was one time in a parade 
this big fat clown mooned me.  Some people have all the luck.


Ken Anderson
2906 May Street
Eau Claire, Wisconsin
715-839-8470
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RE: Barney and Thelma Lou

[Hughes, Clyde L. (HSC)]

Ken,
For shame! :-)  Does your wife read this newsletter?  haha
Yes, Barney did go all the way in getting both soup *and* salad!

Over and Under,
Clyde Barn

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re: Barney Thelma Lou

[dudleygl]

Thelma Lou has complained that Barney never takes her anywhere.? Barney 
could take a lesson from me.? I have been married to my lovely wife for 39 
years and I have taken her many places over those years.? Problem is, she 
keeps finding her way back.



LOL! Colonel Tim called and wants you on his show next week!



Herman Munster

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Thelma Lou

[Kirk Daniel]

I was wondering what occupation Thelma Lou had that could afford her a house
of her own when Barney, being a civil servant, could only afford a boarding
room.  We know about Andy's girlsEllie Walker was the lady druggist,
Peggy was a nurse and her father had money, Helen Crump was a school
teacher, but what did Thelma Lou do that could afford her a place of her
own?  Any thoughts?

Kirk Daniel
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Re: Thelma Lou

[Albert]

I'm watching an old movie (1951) about sororities that features Barn's 
favorite gal along with Jeanne Crain. Never knew she got around so much!
Aunt Bee of Orlando

 

-- Did any of the sorority gals eat cashew fudge? 


 

 

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Thelma Lou

[jlj9675]

I'm watching an old movie (1951) about sororities that features Barn's 
favorite gal along with Jeanne Crain.  Never knew she got around so much!
Aunt Bee of Orlando 



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Thelma Lou

[terry mayew]

Mr. Schwump and I agree:  Brad Cunningham must be right!  Thelma Lou IS
Count Istvan Telecky---it all makes perfect sense!  You see him, don't you,
Floyd?
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Thelma Lou and her magic trick

[jflockerzie]

Have any of you ever seen Thelma Lou's magic trick?
   I've noticed this before and I did again last night. It cracks me up
   every time I see it (I'm amused easily OK).

   Now I don't know if this is on the DVD, I've never checked. I'm thinking
   it's just a result of a scene being cut out on TVLand.
   Anyway, in the episode Farmer Takes a Wife when Andy, Barney, and Jeff
   Pruitt are all over at Thelma Lou's house during the hen party, Thelma
   Lou does her magic trick.
   You see Thelma come into the room to drop off a tray of drinks/food, she
   says hi to Jeff and then she walks back into the kitchen. You never see
   her walk back in to the living room but poof she magically reappears
   there the next second or so.

   My husband just laughed while I made sure he watched. me saying
   OK OK, here she comes with the tray. she sets the tray down.now
   watch...she goes into the kitchen...she doesn't came back in but
   look there.poof.. she's back in the living room.  How does she
   do that 
   He said maybe there's another way back in but I've looked I don't see
   one.

   Ya all think that maybe we've found out what Thelma Lou's job is  a
   magician???


   Jen


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Romancing Thelma Lou

[bcunnin107]

It was Gomer that romanced Thelma Lou to try to make her take Barney back 
And Andy also did this once too..

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Goober Thelma Lou in Church

[Bobby Williams]

I believe Goober, like Thelma Lou is never seen in
church.  

But we can safely assume, I think, that Thelma Lou did attend the same church 
as Edgar Coleman...At least they were gluing the covers back on some hymn books 
you recall.
Ellen
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Barney and Thelma Lou kiss

[Janet Anderson]

Highlight: Getting kissed by Thelma Lou in Public.

Joe, I watched Barney's Physical last night on DVD.  I don't know if I ever 
thought much about this before, but it hit me that twice in this episode Thelma 
Lou gives Barney a kiss on the mouth.  Not a peck on the cheek, mind you, but a 
bona fide smacker full on the lips.  One was as she was leaving the court house 
after the anniversary celebration, and the other was while Barney was hanging 
in Andy's closet.  So I asked myself, How many other times do we see Barney and 
Thelma Lou openly kiss on the lips?  Most of the time, it's implied, such as 
when they've been alone together in the dark and then Barney emerges with 
lipstick all over his face.  Or maybe Barney's trying to kiss her when Thelma 
Lou is discussing something with him, and she rebuffs him.

Can anyone tell of other specific instances when we actually see Barn and Thel 
kiss on the mouth?


Thelma Lou
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Thelma Lou Poems, Mayberry Poems

[K. Darden]

I am accepting poems for the 2008 edition of the Mayberry poetry
books, and am especially wanting to get some poems about Thelma Lou
and Betty Lynn this year. Please send your poem of 28 lines or less to
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Thelma Lou Schwamp

[Carol Stonemetz]

I have a theory -  Thelma Lou's last name is Schwump.  Since most  people 
in 
Mayberry have kinfolk around town, maybe they are related since it  doesn't 
appear either of them has much else in the wway of kinfolk in the  show
 
Speaking of Thelma Lou, I sure would like to have her working hours. We  know 
she works in an office, but she sure is home every time someone goes over  
there in the middle of the day. And she dates Barney in the evening a  lot, so 
she couldn't work to many nights. And then there is glueing  covers back on 
hymn books with Edgar Coleman. And what about her and Edgar  Coleman?
 
Brad Neil  Bentley Cunningham
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And the nice thing is, Schwamp rhymes (kinda) with Crump.  That's C-R-U-M-P, 
Crump!

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Thelma Lou

[Dolly and Bruce]

Does anyone know Thelma Lou's last name on the show?  I know that Thelma Lou is 
Betty Lynn in real life, but I can't remember if I have ever seen an episode 
where Thelma Lou's last name, show-wise, was ever mentioned.  In the episode 
that Thelma Lou's cousin, Mary Grace Gossidge, comes to visit gets me to 
thinking that Thelma Lou's last name might be Gossage (Mary Grace Canfield, 
in real life).  Any possibility?  
~Dolly from Four Oaks, NC

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Thelma Lou

[Marie]

I assume her last name was Lou. Why not? On That Girl Anne Marie's lats 
name was Marie so why couldn't Thelma Lou's lats name be Lou?

Marie
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Re: Thelma Lou

[Sweet Charity]

 
 
Hey Ya'll,
It has been preying on my mind about Thelma Lou's Last name before she became a 
Whitfield.  Is it ever mentioned?  I deduced that she had a cousin by the name 
of Gossage and one by the name of Moore.  Am I nuts or was her last name 
ever mentioned?  Poor Thel, the only person in Mayberry with no last name!!!
Loosing sleep over it
Cay Holliday
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Thelma Lou ???

[MrsRShipman]

I have watched that REUNION episode many times but it was my children who  
said.. hey mom, doesn't Andy's old flame look like a dressed up Thelma Lou  ??  
8-o   
 
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Thelma Lou

[Earl Hensley]

As far as I know Thelma Lou didnt have a last name.
I never knew what her job was.  Just that she worked in an office.
Thanks Earl Hensley
-- 
American by Birth Southern by the grace of God.
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Re: Episode of Thelma Lou and Edgar Coleman

[Cassandra Ponsford]

Hey Everyone,
   
  The title of the episode escapes me at the moment but I believe Thelma Lou 
and Edgar Coleman were gluing hymn books back together... but I don't recall if 
they showed Edgar (kind of like we never saw Juanita down at the diner but 
heard a lot about her!)
   
  Take care and have a great week!
   
  Horatio Who?  (Sandy)
   
   
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Thelma Lou On the Job

[Dennis Ernest]

Thanks for your help Untrained Voice, and Paul on Thelma Lou's employment.
I only knew of the Man In the Middle scenes where she says she has come 
from
and has to get back to the office.  The more I think about it, the less I 
think
she worked for the County.  Probably could have been an insurance office.

Speculate for a moment if she were to have been a financial planner
you know... retirement plans, stocks, mutual funds.  She could have
helped Barney with those investment ideas, and how to reduce those
deductions comin' out of his check all the time!  Then again, we would
lost some delightful moments in Mayberry!  See ya in the funny papers!

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Thelma Lou, employment.

[GRITTON, JOE A (ATTOPS)]

Still wondering if anybody knows what Thelma Lou's job was?  Career
office girl in Mayberry?
Do you suppose she worked for the County?  Dennis

Dennis I have often wondered about this as well.
I think she works at a small insurance office in town.  Here is my
Logic.
What kind of offices do we see or remember in small towns.  Governmental
offices, Utilities offices, Insurance Offices, and offices associated
with bigger Businesses.
We know that Violet Rose Schumacher worked out at the Coal Company.  
We know that if she worked at an office at the School, she would have
known Helen from work, and that doesn't seem to be how they meet.
If she worked for a governmental office, Andy and Barney would surely
have mentioned that or encountered her in some way. (getting an
appointment with the Mayor or City Council etc).
She could have worked for the Dept. of Water and Power--but again, they
would have come across her there.
The Phone company appeared to have no employees except  Sara, so we can
rule out utilities.
It must have been right in town, not out on the fringe near the Diner,
and you-know--Juanita.

There is one other possibility.  Some of you know that I believe Mr.
Schwamp ran the local funeral home. (Often dressed in suit, reassuring
nod etc.)  Perhaps she worked in the office of that funeral home.
Remember that Barney met her at Wilton Blaire's Funeral.  That could
have been her reason for being there.  Perhaps the small funeral home
also often used a church for their larger services--and thus the need to
help Edgar Coleman out with the Hymn Books???  

Just a possibility.  We see Ed, who later became Howard, as the
Insurance Salesman and Claim agent, but Thelma Lou could have been in
the background handling the paperwork.

One of these two, 
The Untrained Voice
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Thelma Lou in pants

[Dennis Ernest]

I've been thinking.  I don't recall ever seeing Thelma Lou  in anything but
skirts and dresses.  Did she ever have slacks on in any  show? 

-There is an episode, I believe when Bob Rogers comes down from the 
State AG's Office
and Barney is put out about it.eventually leaves the force to sell 
vacuumsand he's over
at Thelma Lou's and she's cleaning house.wearing pants.  This is also 
the episode in which
Barney utters the famous line...Who's Been Messin' Up The Bulletin 
Board...!---

By the way.What exactly does Thelma Lou do for a living?  I've heard her 
say she had to get back to the office.  Any other known clues?  How Barney 
could have left Mayberry without hitchin' up with that girl is beyond me!  
What a sweetheart!

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Helen and Thelma Lou

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I've been thinking.  I don't recall ever seeing Thelma Lou in anything but 
skirts and dresses.  Did she ever have slacks on in any show?  I think I 
remember Helen wearing slacks or cropped pants maybe to a picnic.  Anyone 
remember?
I have to go now and glue hymnbook covers back on with Edgar Coleman.
Bee in New Concord, OH
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Thelma lou sighting

[ladynoogs45744]

Ok since TAGS dvd releases are Done.. we had to move on to another
favorite show to start collecting.. and since mom is collecting the
waltons and I love lucy (we never double up so we can just share) we
decided to start wtih Little house on the prairie. so we were
watching last night and Betty Lynn is in the first season as teh
daughter of a woman who fakes her own funeral to get her kids to
come see her before she dies.  


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Thelma Lou

[BEN CURRIN]

I was in Mt Airy today (just went up to spend the day  do some shopping)  the 
Mt Airy newspaper was the hottest item in town. Betty Lynn (Thelma Lou) has 
moved,  is now living in Mt Airy!!!  You'd better believe in was front page 
story with lots of pictures!!!
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Thelma Lou....

[musicboxlane]

Yes, Barney did have many good qualities.  Thelma Lou was a lady in 
love..even though she didn't think he could sing, not a lick!!  She must 
have loved him very much to go dutch treat with him and how about those 
nights he never spent a dime on her but went to her house to watch TV and eat 
cashew fudge.
   
  Anybody know how to make that?  I wouldn't mind making a pan of that myself.
   
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Opie and Thelma Lou

[Harriet Browder]

Which episode had Thelma Lou making homemade peach ice cream and
brownies for Opie?  I would like the actual title of it.  It's prayin' on 
my mind.

The Rivals, Season 3, Disc 5, second episode. The best line in it is Pa, 
just what can you do with a grown woman?

Isn't it a wonderful thing that TV Land is back to black and white? Color 
episodes are good but nothing compares to the first five seasons.

Here's to you and yours!
Harriet, the chicken thief in Kelsey's Woods, USA

..Johnny Paul Jason says chewing tar is good for your teeth...That's
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Question about Thelma Lou Opie

[Janet Anderson]

Which episode had Thelma Lou making homemade peach ice cream and brownies 
for Opie?  I would like the actual title of it.  It's prayin' on my mind.

Bee, I think that was episode 91, The Rivals.  That was when Thelma Lou was 
treating Opie special because the little girl he liked didn't seem to notice 
him.  Barney got jealous because Opie was taking up all of Thelma Lou's free 
time.

Thelma Lou
(Janet)
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Re: Just about enough of Barney, Thelma Lou, Nettie

[Doug Gibson]

I didn't mean to cause a moulage when I brought it up late last week. For the 
record, I think Alberta Nelson was great as Flora, often wondered if she would 
have added to TAGS's exceptional quality with a regular gig as Goober's girl.
Doug Gibson
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Barney and Thelma Lou

[Priscilla]

I've been reading everyone's theories as to why Barney left Thelma Lou the way 
he did.  I just kinda thought that he was rather insecure about their 
relationship (kinda like some of the episodes where he'd doubt his abilities to 
capture someone on escape) and thought he might get his heart broken.

Oh wellas ususal, I'm wrong about men!

Cj
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Thelma Lou and Barney were in love

[linjanecam]

I have no doubt whatsoever that Thelma Lou and Barney were  deeply in love 
but he had the proverbial cold feet to which many bachelors  can attest. I 
agree 
wholeheartedly with Thelma Lou ( Janet) and her assessment  in msg #9 dated 
3/31. Smokey's song, Tears of a Clown is just the right way to  put it and as 
always, Barney was trying to save face. I don't however understand  why he 
hadn't written to her after leaving town and perhaps the writers could  have 
added a bit more to explain that one. Possibly they didn't realize we would  
have 
the opportunity to view each episode a myriad of times and dissect  each as 
we are now doing. Back then it was one show and maybe a summer rerun and  that 
was about it. Using the same actors as different characters attests to that  
assumption. Anyhow, their love was deep in my opinion and the writers just 
plain  goofed in not having Thel and Barn tie the knot. I can only assume they 
left the  door open just incase or a return to Mayberry for Don. I wonder. 
 
Lydia, my apologies...now I know.
 
Linda 
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Barney did love Thelma Lou

[bcq145]

Laura Lee Hobbs wants me to clear up any misunderstandings.  I am not saying
that Barney did not love Thelma Lou enough to marry her earlier.  I merely asked
the question if you thought so based on how soon he SEEMED to recover from
her marriage.  Maybe the speed of recovery meant something, maybe it didn't.  
It's all in the eyes of the viewer.
I feel like it was really to try to end the show on a happier note (but 
impossible) and like it's basically a sign of Barney's immaturity.  He can perk 
up pretty
quick  because his reactions are all still kid-like.  When he is happy,
he is real, real happy; and when he is sad, there is no gloomier looking soul 
on this earth.
 But the good
part of Barney--the strong part--is his ability to bounce back from whatever 
has gotten him down.  Barney just will not stay down for long.  He will
survive.  While he may not be to sharpest knife in the drawer, somehow Bernhard
P. Milton Oliver Fife just keeps on going strong. And you've got to admire that.

Lydia, I can't stand a man who is old in his heart. I don't mind a man who is a 
little
young in his knees or a little weak in his back, but I can't stand a man who is 
old in
his heart.

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Barney Thelma Lou

[Ruth Stanley]

I agree with Janet's take on whether Barney  Thelma Lou had real feelings for 
each other.  Barney's expression on his face when she introduced her husband, 
revealed it all,  Thelma Lou's as she told him showed she still cared for him. 
I think as she wrote, it was the fear of commitment that kept him from asking 
her to be his wife. Thelma Lou must have felt that since she hadn't heard from 
him, that it was a hopeless situation as far as he was concerned. It's not 
surprising that she found a new love who wanted to marry her.
Aunt Bee 2 ( Ruth in Or)
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RE: Barney and Thelma Lou

[MarTim1219]

Yes...I believe Barney loved Ol Thel  above all others. In fact, he  never 
loved anyone else. The reason I believe Barney didn't marry Thelma Lou was  not 
only a fear of commitment but also his need to be a big shot. You know, like  
he wanted to be a big fish in a big pond and that overrode his emotions at 
the  time. And that's my two cents
Liz ain't you got a jack Roberts
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RE: Barney loses Thelma Lou at the high school reunion

[Tim Allen]

Subject: Barney loses Thelma Lou at the high school reunion
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I watched that episode this week, and as much as I like TAGS, I've always
disliked that episode, not for the fact that Thelma Lou married (frankly
Barney deserved it for abandoning her). But rather for Barney abruptly
getting over his grief because a woman he barely knew (Nettie) came on to
him. It's shallow writing and it makes it seem as Thelma Lou and all those
years together meant nothing to Barney. 
Doug Gibson
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I recognize that there are some huge TAGS fans in this area.  Additionally,
I also am a huge TAGS fans.  So much so that when my children were still in
their cribs (they are now 17 and about to enter college) I would play TAGS
episodes recorded on cassette tapes instead of lullabies.  I also remember
from the forum rules that we are to keep things positive and discuss the
better things regarding TAGS.  However...

First, let me say that I believe TAGS is the absolute best Television has to
offer.  Yet with that said, there is one TAGS episode that I will probably
not be watching again.

I happened to watch the above mentioned episode just last night on a local
cable access channel and was very disappointed in the story line.  I even
knew what was going to happen and it still aggravated me.  I will never
understand why this episode was written as it was.  The former gentleman's
remarks are absolutely correct.

The look on Barney's face at the very moment Thelma Lou introduces her
husband is without a doubt one of the lowest moments of any TAGS scenes. 

When I need an uplifting moment, I turn to TAGS.  This particular episode is
not very uplifting.  It is way to true to life.  I'll be stickin' to my
beloved BW episodes.

Enjoy the forum...

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Barney's feelings for Thelma Lou

[Janet Anderson]

Remember the class reunion?   He acted all sad and lonely  when he found out 
Thelma Lou had married until
another girl showed him some interest, and then he perked up real quick.  This 
was probably done to end the show on a happy note, but it sure left me feeling 
like Barney's love for Thel was not all that deep, and maybe that was the real 
reason why he had not asked her to marry him in the first place.  And you can't 
really blame him for not marrying her if his love wasn't deep enough no matter 
how WE felt  about it.  How did you feel?  Based on his actions, DID Barney 
love Thelma Lou enough to marry her years earlier?

Lydia, I haven't seen that episode in a long time (looking forward to the 
season six set coming out so that I can view it again), but I'll put in my two 
cents' worth anyway.  (Seems like I've been putting in my two cents a lot 
lately.  If I keep it up, pretty soon I'll have put in enough to give Olive a 
sizeable tip!  She has those kids to feed, you know.)

Well, I'll agree that Barney's reaction to the interest of another woman was 
probably used to end the episode in an upbeat way.  However, with all due 
respect to you, Lydia, I don't think that it indicated that Barney's love for 
Thelma Lou was in some way lacking.  Rather, I believe he was allowing himself 
this diversion to mask the pain he was feeling (reminds me of that old Smokey 
Robinson song Tears of a Clown).  There is too much evidence that points to 
Barney's feelings for Thelma Lou being the real thing:

1.  Barney dated Thelma Lou on a steady basis for several years.
2.  Barney told Thelma Lou that she was the only girl for him, the only girl he 
loved.
3.  When Andy pressed Barney about when he and Thelma Lou would marry, Barney 
never nixed the idea that he would marry her.  He just wasn't ready to take the 
big step yet.
4.  Remember how easily Barney fell into the conversation about the furniture 
when he and Thelma Lou were walking home from the movie?  It was obvious that, 
in his mind, Barney was planning on making a home with Thelma Lou in the 
future.  It was only when he realized what he was saying that he backed off and 
qualified the situation with words like someday and if.
5.  And the clincher--Barney didn't marry anyone else.  Though he dated other 
women, no one took the place of Thelma Lou.

The obstacle in Barney and Thelma Lou's relationship was not that Barney's 
feelings didn't run deep enough for Thelma Lou, but that Barney had a fear of 
commitment that he hadn't yet overcome.  That's my take on it, anyway!  I'll be 
interested to read what others think.

Thelma Lou
(Janet)
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Re: Thelma Lou and Juanita

[Don Good]

Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:43:53 -0800
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Dear First Time Writer Linda,
Really dug your post, but may I gently point out one little thing here, 
the name is not bcq145 it's
Lydia. L-Y-D-I-A.
It means native of Acient Greece,  but that's not where I'm from.  I'm 
from Shady Grove, Mississippi.
  (Gee, Andy, Linda thought Lydia was from  Acient Greece.  No, our Lydia 
 is a plain ole Mississippi girl!) She hates to chit-chat. She doesn't mind
ordinary conversation, but she hates to chit-chat.
And she's not above calling Thelma Lou childish.
Mr. Brentley, I may be needing your card, Sir.
Lydia and her side-kick, Laura Lee Hobbs



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I have to believe that Thelma Lou did not know about Juanita. ...All we do 
know is that when Barney left Mayberry, she left too and she married soon 
after.  But it was a failed marriage.  So sad.  All those years wasted 
that  could have been spent  together.
Remember the class reunion?   He acted all sad and lonely  when he 
 found out Thelma Lou had married until
another girl showed him some interest, and then he perked up real
quick.  This was probably done to end the show on a happy note, but it 
sure left me feeling like Barney's love for Thel was not all that deep, 
and maybe that was the real reason why he had not asked her to marry him 
in the first place.  And you
can't really blame him for not marrying her if his love wasn't deep enough 
no matter how WE felt  about it.
How did you feel?  Based on his actions, DID Barney love Thelma Lou enough 
to marry her years earlier?

I agree that Thel did NOT know about Juanita.  In addition to what you 
said, remember that Andy was warning Barney not to take Juanita to 
Morelli's because everybody goes out there (and therefore they might be 
seen together).

I hope I'm not violating a number rule when I say this: The episode where 
Thelma Lou comes back married (interestingly to the foreman of a wrecking 
crew) is the one I absolutely will NOT watch.  It came on the other day and 
I quickly changing the channel as I explained my position to my darling 
person.  The episode wasn't fair to Barney.  Yes, ol' Barn and Thel loved 
each other deeply, but their relationship was cheapened with Thelma Lou 
having married (though who could blame her) and even more when Barney 
rebounded to Nettie Albright (who had a certain resemblance to 
Flora).  There are some things I just won't abide.

Don Good
I said it and I ain't taking it back.



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Re: Barney loses Thelma Lou at the high school reunion

[K . Darden]

I can't help it - I am partial to Nettie. Alberta Walker who played 
Nettie went on to play Flora Malherbe who was Goober's girlfriend in 
the color episodes. If Barn hadn't had a little chemistry with Nettie, 
then Goober might have never had Flora as a girlfriend! But I have to 
agree, it was a rather shallow flip flop for Barney

Flora
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 Subject: Barney loses Thelma Lou at the high school reunion

 I watched that episode this week, and as much as I like TAGS, I've 
 always disliked that episode, not for the fact that Thelma Lou married 
 (frankly Barney deserved it for abandoning her). But rather for Barney 
 abruptly getting over his grief because a woman he barely knew 
 (Nettie) came on to him. It's shallow writing and it makes it seem as 
 Thelma Lou and all those years together meant nothing to Barney.
 Doug Gibson

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Barney loses Thelma Lou at the high school reunion

[Doug Gibson]

I watched that episode this week, and as much as I like TAGS, I've always 
disliked that episode, not for the fact that Thelma Lou married (frankly Barney 
deserved it for abandoning her). But rather for Barney abruptly getting over 
his grief because a woman he barely knew (Nettie) came on to him. It's shallow 
writing and it makes it seem as Thelma Lou and all those years together meant 
nothing to Barney. 
Doug Gibson
Ogden, UT
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Re: Barney defends Thelma Lou

[dudleygl]

I heard this from Myrtle at the beauty shop, who heard it from Sarah, who 
accidentally heard it during a phone conversation between Mrs Mendlebright 
and 
the Mayor's wife.  So you could say it's coming from a third party, if you 
care 
to use that kind of language. 
  
What's wrong with third party?  It's not dirty.
 
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Barney defends Thelma Lou

[Kim]

Lydia and Laura Lee,
   
  I heard this from Myrtle at the beauty shop, who heard it from Sarah, who 
accidentally heard it during a phone conversation between Mrs Mendlebright and 
the Mayor's wife.  So you could say it's coming from a third party, if you care 
to use that kind of language.  But, Barney said he thinks it's pretty childish 
for people to write in the digest that Thelma Lou could be childish at times.
   
  Kim - Wylie, TX
   
   
   


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Thelma Lou and Barney--Oh, How They Loved

[bcq145]

I perfectly agree with Thelma Lou (Janet) that close-ups of our Thelma Lou often
gave an indication of just how much she loved her Barney. (Sadly we often got 
the
opposite impression from Helen to Andy as  close-ups of her too often showed 
her annoyance of him.)
One of my favorite moments is when John Masters is brutally  critiquing 
Barney's singing and
the look on Thelma Lou's face is priceless.  She looks absolutely heart-broken. 
 Yes, she knows Barney can't sing a lick--remember her speech to Andy?
He's a warm wonderful human being...the man I want to marry...the man I want
to be the father of my children...but he can't sing a lick!
And, yes,  she knows Barney has trouble accepting the cold hard truth about 
himself.
But she still loves him and she wants to protect him.
That is part of loving a person.  You accept them warts and all. And you always 
want to protect them from people like John Masters who used truth like a sledge-
hammer. Thelma  Lou could be a little childish at times (in this way she was a 
lot like Barney),
but one never doubted her basic good nature nor her love for her man.  She is a
great woman.  I just wish Barney could have fully appreciated her sooner.

If you ever need any advice in you love life, just drop by the Dime Store, we 
give
it freely,
Lydia and Laura Lee Hobbs--experts in the art of gold truck receiving and in 
the art
of love

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Barney Thelma Lou

[Brearry]

A scene that always really tickle's my funny bone, is the one 
  about Barney and the choir.  Andy and Thelma Lou are in the
  courthouse talking about Barney's singing ability's.  Andy says
  a line and Thelma Lou keeps saying but he can't sing!!.  When
  my hubby and I are in church or somewhere else where some
  poor untalented soul is trying to sing, we look at each other, and
  whisper but he can't sing!!
   
  Life is just full of Mayberry moments, and I thank God for them...
   
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Barney and Thelma Lou

[Kim]

I tend to be in the crowd that thinks Thelma Lou knew about Juanita, or at 
least suspected.  It's just that Barney didn't flaunt Juanita in her face, 
where as the fun girls were right there interrupting Thelma Lou's and Barney's 
plans.  It appeared that Barney and Andy were standing up Thelma Lou and Helen 
in favor of Skippy and Daphne.
   
  I think Thelma Lou knew Barney loved her and thought he'd come to his senses 
and marry her.  When it didn't happen in a reasonable time frame, she tried to 
move on by marrying that other guy.  I really don't think that either Barney or 
Thelma Lou actually emotionally moved on though, causing the failure of her 
marriage and keeping Barney from committing to anyone else.  Kind of 
bittersweet.
   
  Anyway, that's my analysis of their relational dynamics.  I'm just glad they 
ended up together.
   
  Kim - Wylie, TX
   


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Thelma Lou amused at Barney

[Janet Anderson]

In my last post, I mentioned that Thelma Lou graciously overlooked most of 
Barney's flaws.  In fact, she often seemed affectionately amused by them.  
That's one of the things I really like about Thelma Lou's character.  She was 
aware of her man's flaws, but she didn't ridicule or criticize them.  Instead, 
she found them rather endearing.

One of my favorite such moments is in the Cave Rescue episode when Thelma Lou 
convinces Barney to explore the old mining cave, which Andy and Helen have 
already entered.  Barney walks in reluctantly, pressing his hat down over his 
head for fear of bats which, he insists, will lay their eggs in your hair and 
make you go crazy.  When Thelma Lou tells him that he's seen nothing but a 
moth, Barney says that moths can do the same thing!  I love to watch Betty 
Lynn's face during this scene.  Though she chides him a bit for his unwarranted 
fears, she is clearly getting a real kick out of Barney's silliness.  You can 
almost here her thinking to herself, Isn't he a hoot?  I sure do love him!

Do any of you recall other moments when Thelma Lou is amused by something 
Barney says or does?

Thelma Lou,
(Janet)
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Thelma Lou Juanita

[Janet Anderson]

In 1990, TBS aired a special 30th anniversary tribute with several cast
members, including Don Knotts and Betty Lynn.  At one point, they took
questions from the audience, and some tall skinny goober stood up and asked
Betty if Thelma Lou ever found out about Juanita down to the diner.  Betty
replied that Thelma Lou was no dummy, and that she was well aware of
Barney's activities.  Don added that Thelma Lou was always Barney's #1 girl,
and that Barney saw Juanita only occasionally, to get a little on the
side.

Yes, Paul, I remember that from the special.  Still, I think that was Betty's 
own interpretation and not necessarily the writers' intent.  When you consider 
how upset Thelma Lou was whenever the Fun Girls came to town -- and Barney 
didn't even instigate or encourage those encounters! -- it seems unlikely that 
Thelma Lou would turn a blind eye to Barney's relationship with Juanita.  I 
don't think that would be consistent with her character.  It's true that Thel 
graciously overlooked many of Barney's flaws (even found them endearing and 
amusing), but she was not shy about calling him on the carpet when he was 
keeping company with another woman, even one who was clearly only looking for a 
good time.  Of course, that's *my own* interpretation of Thelma Lou's 
character!

There's that old saying, The wife (or long-time steady girlfriend, in this 
case) is always the last to know!

FWIW,
Thelma Lou
(Janet)
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Barney and Thelma Lou

[S. Burgess]

Thelma Lou may have been the only girl for Barney but he sure messed up
when he let her get away. How long is a girl supposed to wait???  I felt
sorry for him when Thel brought her new husband to the class reunion but
he didn't stay sad very long, his ego got built up and he was dancing
away.  Mary Grace in Georgia


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Thelma Lou and Juanita

[Cynthia Mahoney]

I agree with what Thelma Lou (Janet) said in her post about Barney and Thelma 
Lou and Juanita.  

However, I think that Thelma Lou knew about Barney seeingJuanita, or at least 
suspected it., and she just overlooked it.  Thelma Lou probably never saw 
Barney and Juanita together, so it was easy for her to act like it was not 
happening.  

I believe that Thelma Lou really was the only girl Barney, well, loved.  But 
Thelma Lou was a nice, respectable young lady and she did not go in for too 
much of Barney's shenanigans.  When he got fresh, she slapped him.  

Juanita, on the other hand, not only put up with, but encouraged Barney to get 
fresh with her.  Remember when Barney called her for a date and said he was 
taking her to the drive in movies at Mt. Pilot?  Juanita must have asked what 
movie was showing and Barney said what difference does it make, which implies 
that he was planning on them doing something other than watching the show.  
Thelma Lou would have hung up on him immediately if he had made such an 
insinuation to her.  But Juanita didn't hang up on him at all.  

I think Thelma Lou did not feel threatened by Juanita because she knew that 
Barney was only dating her for one reason. It was the same reason why Barney 
liked going to those rabbit girl clubs and why he subscribed to that magazine 
that the college kid was selling, you know, the one with the fast lens 
photography that captured the ribbon on that girl's foot.  Barney did not love 
Juanita and Juanita did not love Barney.  They were just playmates in a game 
that Thelma Lou would not let Barney play with her.  And with Juanita around, 
Barney could have his fun and Thelma Lou did not have to spend every date 
fighting him off.  

Now, if Thelma Lou had suspected that there were any romantic intentions 
between Barney and Juanita, that would have been a different story.  She would 
have been jealous and angry like she was when she saw him flirting with that 
new girl in town, Melissa.  

Like my mother used to tell me, there are some girls that men go out with to 
have a good time, but they are not the girls that men want to marry.  Juanita 
was a good time girl and Thelma Lou was a marrying girl.  

Barney probably planned on giving up Juanita once he married Thelma Lou, but he 
was having so much fun having his cake and eating it too by dating them both 
that he kept putting off marriage until Thelma Lou couldn't wait anymore and he 
lost her. 

Now, I don't agree with what Barney was doing.  He should have been faithful to 
Thelma Lou all the way.  But he ended up paying the price for not being a one 
woman man when Thelma Lou married that other guy and broke Barney's heart.  

Mary Grace Gossage
Hello, Sarah, get me Juanita down at the diner.
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Barney/Thelma Lou

[Janet Anderson]

Actually the episode revealing Thelma Lou's marriage to the other guy also 
reveals she was devastated when Barney moved out of town.  Perhaps Barney 
expected her to wait around for him to send for her and naturally she 
didn't.

That's ironic, considering Barney's reaction to one of the times that Andy was 
thinking of leaving Mayberry for another job offer.  Barney asked something 
like, And what about Helen?  When Andy said that maybe he would send for her 
later, Barney seemed to think that Andy's answer was pretty lame!

Thelma Lou
(Janet)
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Barney, Thelma Lou, and Juanita

[Janet Anderson]

I have a question that I have been wondering about for a long timeIn 
some episodes it seems that Thelma Lou and Juanita are both refered to in 
regards to being Barney's girlfriends.  One episode that comes to mind is 
the Filling Station Robbery.  When Barney takes the picture of himself out 
of the envelope, Goober says, You should have copies made and give one to 
Thelma Lou.  Then at the end of the episode Barney calls up Juanita.  This 
has always seemed strange to me.  I think there are other incidents similar 
to this in other episodes. Has anyone else noticed this?  Does anyone know 
the explanation?

Connie, I must say that this is one of Barney's character traits that I don't 
like.  Despite at times admitting to Thelma Lou that she is the only girl he 
loves, he is not faithful to her and sees Juanita on the side.  Of course, the 
scenes where Barney is talking to Juanita on the phone are always funny, but, 
as a woman, I would prefer Barney to be a one-woman man.

The situation is made pretty clear towards the end of the fifth season in 
Barney and Thelma Lou--Phfftt!  Thelma Lou realizes that Barney is taking her 
for granted, so she decides to make him jealous by going to the movies with 
Gomer.  The ruse works, of course, and Barney gets good and steamed.  Andy 
tries to get him to be more understanding, saying, You've stepped out a few 
times, too, you know.  (Disclaimer to my fellow trained noticers:  These may 
not be exact quotes!)  Barney asks him what he means, and Andy responds, 
Juanita at the diner.  Barney says, That's different!  There are other 
times when Barney shows his possessiveness of Thelma Lou, such as when Jeff 
Pruitt comes to town or when Edger Coleman helps Thelma Lou glue the covers 
back on the hymnals.  So Barney expects Thelma Lou to be faithful to him, but 
he thinks it's okay for him to go out with Juanita behind Thelma Lou's back.  
When it comes to women, Barney has a double standard.

Which raises the question of Juanita.  What was she like?  I picture Juanita as 
being the kind of woman who wears a lot of make-up, who always has her eye out 
for a man, and who is of rather easy virtue.  Barney's conversations with 
Juanita imply that he dates her for one reason only.  Though Thelma Lou seems 
blithely ignorant of Juanita as a rival, Juanita MUST know about Thelma Lou, as 
everyone regards Barney and Thelma Lou as a couple.  That tells me that 
Juanita dates Barney just for a fun time and not for the purpose of developing 
a serious relationship.

I know I'm getting way too deep on this, but that makes me wonder--Why doesn't 
Barney stick with sweet, lovely, faithful (despite Barney's suspicions from 
time to time) Thelma Lou?  Why does he feel the need to step out with Juanita 
on the sly?  Well, we all know that Barney has a fragile ego.  It requires 
continual bolstering.  Though Thelma Lou is good at this, she is also not 
afraid to stand up to Barney or take him to task.  My theory (It's just a 
theory.  What's your theory?) is that Juanita is Barney's ego booster.  She 
probably fawns over him and makes him out to be Mayberry's answer to Don Juan, 
hence Barney's swaggering manner whenever he speaks to her.

I'm wading deeper still--Could it be that Barney's continual reluctance to 
commit to Thelma Lou and his seeming need for another woman to feed his ego 
resulted in the split that led Barney to Raleigh and drove Thelma Lou to marry 
another man?  Of course, we have to imagine all this going on behind the 
scenes, since the end of season five doesn't explain Barney's departure.  I 
guess this is my way of tying up those loose ends!

Thanks for bearing with the long post!

The ever philosophical,
Thelma Lou
(Janet)

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Goober, Thelma Lou, Juanita

[HigginsQ]

It was Goober that took the car apart.  
Thelma Lou was THE girl for Barney.  Juanita was on the side.  I don't 
think Barney wanted to be tied down and going out with Juanita kept him from 
going 
to the altar with Thel.  He also had a date with Phoebe.  I think Barney 
liked to think of himself as a casanova.  He certainly had an eye for the 
ladies.  
(Remember Melissa?).

Bee in New Concord, OH
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Barney, Thelma Lou, and Juanita

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Hello All,
I have a question that I have been wondering about for a long time. I
looked on the Mayberry.com website for the answer, but could not find it. 
Can any of you help me out?  In some episodes it seems that Thelma Lou and
Juanita are both refered to in regards to being Barney's girlfriends. One
episode that comes to mind is the Filling Station Robbery.  When Barney
takes the picture of himself out of the envelope, Goober says, You should
have copies made and give one to Thelma Lou.  Then at the end of the
episode Barney calls up Juanita.  This has always seemed strange to me.  I
think there are other incidents similar to this in other episodes. Has
anyone else noticed this?  Does anyone know the explanation?  
On an unrelated subject: Does anyone know if there is going to be a
Mayberry in the Midwest this summer?  Just trying to make some summer plans.
Also, I want to offer my sympathy to the Jeff K. family, too.  I entered a
written memorial to his family on the funeral home website and noticed that
many of you did the same.  

Have a Mayberry Day,
Connie, Iowa's biggest TAGS fan


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