[wdvltalk] Re: Photoshop Graphics
Hallo Cheryl, --- Cheryl D. Wise / Sonntag 23.02.2003, 22:58:52 Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. ... In Photoshop there is a nice feature (don't know in English). It's on the first Menu (I think it's called 'Files') and below'Save as...' you find a Menu Item 'Save for Web...' or so. Using this option you can play around until you find the right setting. Hope this helps. Have a nice day :) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/3 unter Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available at: http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Photoshop Graphics
I am always surprised at the visual quality on screen of so little file information. As Eddie points out, with the Save for Web choice on the File menu you have a wide set of choices to play with (probably more with PS 7 than 5.5) and about the same with Image Ready. In the end I find file size (download time) is the bigger factor than quality; and it can even be that different pictures need different formats. Sophisticated as the machines and progams are they are still logical idiots. If you want that quality in print or through computer printer you are into a whole other ballgame, of course. Joseph From: Eddie Castelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hallo Cheryl, --- Cheryl D. Wise / Sonntag 23.02.2003, 22:58:52 Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. ... In Photoshop there is a nice feature (don't know in English). It's on the first Menu (I think it's called 'Files') and below'Save as...' you find a Menu Item 'Save for Web...' or so. Using this option you can play around until you find the right setting. Hope this helps. Have a nice day :) -- best regards Eddie Powered by The Bat! v1.63 Beta/3 unter Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 PGP (public) key available at: http://www.EddieCastelli.com/pgpkey/ . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] PHP read file question
I have a PHP script that produces a text file such as: Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 It always puts a blank row at the end. How can I delete that newline? TIA The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: PHP read file question
Hi, I assume you're using a loop to write the lines of the text file. Are you writing out the headings of the fields prior to the data? If so solution could be: write FieldName1, FieldName2, FieldName3 loop write newline write Field1, Field2, Field3 next By not writing a new line between the heading and the loop, but specifying the new line before the data for each line, you shouldn't have a blank line at the end. Not sure if this will help, depends on how you are going about writing the data out. Cheers, Adam I have a PHP script that produces a text file such as: Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 Field1, Field2, Field3 It always puts a blank row at the end. How can I delete that newline? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
Which version of IE are you using? Because I have been using PNG for a couple of years and I believe it worked with IE 5.01 and I know it surely did with 5.5. Scott --- Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft Internet Explorer does not display png format correctly without adding a helper app to the img tag. Aunty, certifiable PSP8 BetaNut Win98SE Celeron400mhz 256MB graphics card: ATI128 RagePro 8mb vmem monitor: pixie700 14in viewable resolution 800x600 24 bit true color - Original Message - From: Scott NVBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics On another angle (not that I'm an expert or anything), gif is limited to 256 colors. Jpeg is limited to 24-bits(?) [maybe 32-bits or 4.29 billion], but it uses 'lossy' compression -- which means you can perceivably lose picture information. [Side note - PhotoShop will save as jpeg with a range of 'lossy' values of 0 to 10 where 0 is the most lossy. On pictures at 640x480, I can only perceive a loss of quality at about 3 and below.] I think most browsers support the newer png graphics format, which I've heard has more features than jpeg (e.g. transparency). Someone else may want to comment because that's all I know. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] [OldNewComer] back and fresh
Hi all, I was a member of wdvl some time back but have not been using it for more than a year and a half now. Now i'm back and suppose I should introduce myself first for those who do not know me and for those who forgot me. My name's paul and i'm in web dev for about 4 years now and i'd be happy to help/tip whenever the possibility arises. Blink to casey, cheryl d. wise, greg cymbala, howard and the rest who helped me a lot before... I dunno if all of them are still here. anyway, here's my first prob... I installed mysql 4 on red hat. fine. done. working. I need innodb to be installed too. here things get trickier. the manual says i should edit my /etc/my.cnf file and add some parameters to [mysqld] I did that, i even copied/pasted the code they throw as a sample to avoid typos and still mysql fails. Normal way to proceed would be 1 edit the file 2 add the params 3 stop mysql and start it again. but when I stop mysql, service reports [ FAILED ] any clues? Thanks a lot and... happy to be back. Paul The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] % loaded info in browser status bar
Hey Everyone, Who knows how, or if it's possible to access the information available in a browser's status bar. I know how to load text into it - I don't really care about that. I want to be able to read the load progress of a page in order to make a graphic that represents the load progress, on a non-Flash web page. My feeble first attempts at loading window.status.value into a text form resulted in undefined. Anybody know how to do this? TIA Perry Gerenday www.klugelab.com www.webinitiative.net The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics
I'm using version 6.00.2800.1106 I create graphics, as well as teach a graphics program online. I've test png in both MSIE 6 and mozilla, and NN 7. Even unoptimized versions to not render correctly in MSIE. See http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngstatus.html AuntySpam (Norma) http://www.geocities.com/brewnetty/ http://coastline.cccd.edu/~spcprgms/about.htm http://brewnetty.0catch.com http://www.getrealresults.com Don't be afraid of living ~the alternative is too final. - Original Message - From: Scott To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:55 AM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Which version of IE are you using? Because I have been using PNG for a couple of years and I believe it worked with IE 5.01 and I know it surely did with 5.5. Scott --- Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Microsoft Internet Explorer does not display png format correctly without adding a helper app to the img tag. Aunty, certifiable PSP8 BetaNut Win98SE Celeron400mhz 256MB graphics card: ATI128 RagePro 8mb vmem monitor: pixie700 14in viewable resolution 800x600 24 bit true color - Original Message - From: Scott NVBell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 7:26 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics On another angle (not that I'm an expert or anything), gif is limited to 256 colors. Jpeg is limited to 24-bits(?) [maybe 32-bits or 4.29 billion], but it uses 'lossy' compression -- which means you can perceivably lose picture information. [Side note - PhotoShop will save as jpeg with a range of 'lossy' values of 0 to 10 where 0 is the most lossy. On pictures at 640x480, I can only perceive a loss of quality at about 3 and below.] I think most browsers support the newer png graphics format, which I've heard has more features than jpeg (e.g. transparency). Someone else may want to comment because that's all I know. Hope this helps! Scott -Original Message- From: Cheryl D. Wise [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Photoshop Graphics Depending on the complexity of the image it could be either format. The more complex an image is in terms of number of colors/graduations of color the more likely jpg will provide better results. But if you are using Photoshop why don't you simply try both and see which one gives you an image quality/size you are happy with. That's what I usually do in Fireworks, export for the web, preview in gif jpg at various compression levels until I get one that has the best size/quality ratio and go with that one. If you need transparency you will be limited to gif format for broadest compatibility. Cheryl D. Wise WiserWays Office: 713.353.0139 Mobile: 713.412.0406 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mary L Rusinko I am creating some graphics for a website in Photoshop from print screen's techniques. They are in the *.psd format right now, and I was wondering if anyone knew which is the best format to create these in? They are print screen shots from http://www.permadi.com/java/spaint/spaint.html . I created some beautiful mandalas at this location and want to convert them to graphics for a website. Would it be better to have them in a *.jpeg or *.gif? I want to use the format that would save the most information to the graphic without loosing a lot of the detail. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center -
[wdvltalk] Re: shopping cart/php/paypal
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am looking for a shopping cart, written in php/mysql/ that will integrate into paypal. As I want this primarily for learning purposes a free one would be ideal. Try the free PayPal one? Bj Is that supposed to be helpful BJ ? If the PayPal one did what I wanted I wouldn't be looking for an alternative. regards Melanie The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] site comments please
I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. Joseph The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: site comments please
Hmm. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sue your pants off :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2003 20:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] site comments please I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. Joseph . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: site comments please
Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. what a hoot!! i love it!! the humour is fabulous, and the web page is wonderful nice job!! rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: site comments please
Ben, That is one we are looking at, of course.But what would be the precise illegality?Obviously they have deep pockets; if they felt worried or offended no doubt they would act. And we will find out before we get too comfortable with the name. I was rather hoping for more detail comments, however. Joseph From: Ben Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sue your pants off :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2003 20:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] site comments please I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. Joseph . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: site comments please
Thanks Rudy, I will pass this on to my co-author in India who did most of the work on the site - I did some of the writing. The book it is selling is itself humourous (or humorous) and it seemed a good idea to continue the theme. Joseph From: rudy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. what a hoot!! i love it!! the humour is fabulous, and the web page is wonderful nice job!! rudy . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: site comments please
rudy - so I answered you twice! Looks like I need a rest. :-o Joseph The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: site comments please
Thanks Heather, I will pass that on. I will also check my own site for it. Joseph From: Heather Laidlaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't forget to set your background default to white. For those of us strange people who don't have a different color than white as our normal background it makes webpages that forget to set a white default look funky. Heather -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2003 20:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] site comments please I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. Joseph . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% * The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM * To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/03 . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: site comments please
- Original Message - From: Joseph Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. The amazon.com is site is as flawless Maybe you should rewrite that? (For one thing it's bad English, for another it ain't true grin) Bj The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: site comments please
Sorry Ben, I gave the wrong impression.I was just attempting to say that it was a valid worry, and we were already seeking advice and preparing to entice 'the real one' into being nice to us. It was a fair point for you to make and I took it as friendly advice. I am genuinely interested in thoughts on the subject. The only real challenge that I can think of might be 'passing off' and there is no way we are doing that. It is no more than parody. Of course it is also cross border, which complicates. But if they seriously objected I reckon we would have to bow to the big bucks. That is why I would be happy to learn if there might be any other grounds on which we are vulnerable. Also keen to have comment on all aspects of the site. Again, sorry for being too cryptic. Joseph From: Ben Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, didn't mean to put a downer on things. -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2003 21:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: site comments please Ben, That is one we are looking at, of course.But what would be the precise illegality?Obviously they have deep pockets; if they felt worried or offended no doubt they would act. And we will find out before we get too comfortable with the name. I was rather hoping for more detail comments, however. Joseph From: Ben Joyce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmm. I wouldn't be surprised if Amazon sue your pants off :) -Original Message- From: Joseph Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 February 2003 20:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] site comments please I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. Joseph The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: site comments please
Ah Bj, We could only tell them that *after* they had been kind to us. ;-) Joseph From: Bj [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Joseph Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have co-authored a book (on cricket!) and we have set up a sales page. I would value any comments about the page (and even the sample pages of the book). Mosey along to www.ah-mah-son.com if you have time. The amazon.com is site is as flawless Maybe you should rewrite that? (For one thing it's bad English, for another it ain't true grin) Bj The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: shopping cart/php/paypal
I am looking for a shopping cart, written in php/mysql/ that will integrate into paypal. As I want this primarily for learning purposes a free one would be ideal. http://www.oscommerce.com/ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.456 / Virus Database: 256 - Release Date: 2/18/03 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Alt tag question
I wrote, previously: FT While poking around, I found this page: FT http://kspope.com/assistech/index.php. FT After poking through our website, I'm really wondering if it's FT possible to have a visually appealing website (i.e. at least a few FT graphics) and an easy-to-navigate aural-only site at the same time. Abigail commented: Actually, Tim, I think that the site you found is an excellent example of a visually appealing plus easy to navigate site. I think it's a great model to start with. I reply: I think so too, in IE. While it doesn't break in NN4.7x, it looks rather bad...bad enough that if I were to duplicate the effort with our site, it would be unacceptable to the powers-that-be. Abigail further commented: Can you clarify what some of your major problems are, or post a link to whatever page is giving you headaches? I reply thusly: I think my biggest problem is that our largest client uses NN4.7 as their base browser, so I must support it. Furthermore, my requirements are that the site appear the same in both IE and NN4.7. Since NN4.7 doesn't do CSS mouseovers well (that I've discovered, anyway), I end up downloading GIFs for the left menu - lots of them. I don't like doing it but it's the only way I've found to force consistent look between NN4.7 and IE. My log files are full of GIF requests. :-) I don't really have a headache yet...I just haven't started looking at my site's pages deeply enough to start working on this aspect of things. I have a feeling that it's going to be messy. I've put in alt tags for all the menu images (I wasn't aware that I could get away with alt=; I may have to play with that some), but am not really sure where to go from there. www.foulston.com I imagine it'll take a bit of redesign. Tim ___ Tim Furry Web Developer Foulston Siefkin LLP The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Amazon parody, was: site comments please
Re Ah-ma-son.com looking like Amazon.com I am genuinely interested in thoughts on the subject. The only real challenge that I can think of might be 'passing off' and there is no way we are doing that. It is no more than parody If you want to see Amazon.com really wickedly parodied, go to http://www.landoverbaptist.org/christianreader.html List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $57.99 You Save: Nothing. (Only Jesus Saves!) The easily offended should go nowhere near the Landover Baptist site, of course Good news for Negro families in need. We purchase little black children or Can Star Trek Help Us Understand Muslims? A religious study reveals that Arabs look, behave, and think like Klingons. Read More! But boy is it funny. Bj The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
I took some of the Bible quizzes with my Bible handy. Talk about lies and distortions. Not even an unbeliever twists the actual meaning of the words that badly. Is this site supposed to be a parody of Christian beliefs too? AuntySpam (Norma) http://www.geocities.com/brewnetty/ http://coastline.cccd.edu/~spcprgms/about.htm http://brewnetty.0catch.com http://www.getrealresults.com Don't be afraid of living ~the alternative is too final. - Original Message - From: Bj To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Amazon parody, was: site comments please Re Ah-ma-son.com looking like Amazon.com I am genuinely interested in thoughts on the subject. The only real challenge that I can think of might be 'passing off' and there is no way we are doing that. It is no more than parody If you want to see Amazon.com really wickedly parodied, go to http://www.landoverbaptist.org/christianreader.html List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $57.99 You Save: Nothing. (Only Jesus Saves!) The easily offended should go nowhere near the Landover Baptist site, of course Good news for Negro families in need. We purchase little black children or Can Star Trek Help Us Understand Muslims? A religious study reveals that Arabs look, behave, and think like Klingons. Read More! But boy is it funny. Bj . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
Norma, It looks like a wickedly funny (as Bj says) attack on fundamental Baptists; I don't think we have anything quite like it over here. I think this mix has been written by people who are not creationists! there is so much on the site I think it must have taken a deal of time to put together. It sure is some parody Bj. Joseph From: Brewnetty (AuntySpam) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I took some of the Bible quizzes with my Bible handy. Talk about lies and distortions. Not even an unbeliever twists the actual meaning of the words that badly. Is this site supposed to be a parody of Christian beliefs too? AuntySpam (Norma) http://www.geocities.com/brewnetty/ http://coastline.cccd.edu/~spcprgms/about.htm http://brewnetty.0catch.com http://www.getrealresults.com Don't be afraid of living ~the alternative is too final. - Original Message - From: Bj To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:02 PM Subject: [wdvltalk] Amazon parody, was: site comments please Re Ah-ma-son.com looking like Amazon.com I am genuinely interested in thoughts on the subject. The only real challenge that I can think of might be 'passing off' and there is no way we are doing that. It is no more than parody If you want to see Amazon.com really wickedly parodied, go to http://www.landoverbaptist.org/christianreader.html List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $57.99 You Save: Nothing. (Only Jesus Saves!) The easily offended should go nowhere near the Landover Baptist site, of course Good news for Negro families in need. We purchase little black children or Can Star Trek Help Us Understand Muslims? A religious study reveals that Arabs look, behave, and think like Klingons. Read More! But boy is it funny. Bj The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
Bj, As a Christian, I find that site extremely offensive. Shame on you for promoting such a site of religious bigotry and racial slurs. You ought to be kicked off the list for this. Will Stewart -Original Message- From: Bj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] Amazon parody, was: site comments please Re Ah-ma-son.com looking like Amazon.com I am genuinely interested in thoughts on the subject. The only real challenge that I can think of might be 'passing off' and there is no way we are doing that. It is no more than parody If you want to see Amazon.com really wickedly parodied, go to http://www.landoverbaptist.org/christianreader.html List Price: $14.95 Our Price: $57.99 You Save: Nothing. (Only Jesus Saves!) The easily offended should go nowhere near the Landover Baptist site, of course Good news for Negro families in need. We purchase little black children or Can Star Trek Help Us Understand Muslims? A religious study reveals that Arabs look, behave, and think like Klingons. Read More! But boy is it funny. Bj . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
will, please cut the guy some slack he DID warn you not to go did you listen? no you must enjoy being offended, then so, in that spirit, i advise you NOT to visit http://www.davezilla.com/index.php?p=1641 rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
I never said I visited the page. Landoverbaptist.org is a well known site full of racial bigotry and religious intolerance. It is irresponsible to promote such a site that calls Arabs desert-n** and uses other such strong racial words. Just as BJ should not post a site for making a bomb (for instance) he should not endorse such a site. This deserves an apology. I am asking the moderators to look into kicking him off the list. Will Stewart -Original Message- From: rudy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please will, please cut the guy some slack he DID warn you not to go did you listen? no you must enjoy being offended, then so, in that spirit, i advise you NOT to visit http://www.davezilla.com/index.php?p=1641 rudy . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] Re: % loaded info in browser status bar
On February 24, 2003 at 13:06, Gerenday, Perry (P.) wrote: Who knows how, or if it's possible to access the information available in a browser's status bar. I know how to load text into it AFAIK, that's about all you can do without modifying the source code of the browser itself. There may be something in IIS with ASP/ActiveX that does that for Interent Explorer but doubt it on a non-Flash web page. There's the rub. You don't have control over the loading as you do with an .swf so your loading screen would have to be faked with either DHTML or an animated gif timed to the lowest common denominator (dial-up?) timewise using the .gif in a body onload(). If you find something, I've got a page with a humungous table on it that would benefit from a solution... Regards, Mark Groen MG Web Services Web Site Hosting and Development www.markgroen.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 604-780-6917 The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[wdvltalk] RE: Amazon parody, was: site comments please
As a Christian, I find that site extremely offensive. Shame on you for promoting such a site of religious bigotry and racial slurs. You ought to be kicked off the list for this. As a human being, I find your intolerance to be intolerable. Which of us can step outside our door (or turn on a tv or a radio!?) these days without having to encounter the possibility of being offended? Why is it that some people don't seem to get the concept that a person can *TURN AWAY* from something if they find it offensive? Why is it, also, that those most easily offended seem to be believe that what offends them should always offend others? Bear in mind, that I'm not defending any web site or idea or anything in particular... I'm speaking of generalities. People need to be free to make their own choices in entertainment, beliefs, etc. I think you also misuse the term religious bigotry. It seems to me that that phrase better describes those of strong religious persuasions who seek to impose their beliefs on anyone who sees things differently. ~ Nathan Lyle (The U.P. Web Maestro) Web: www.upwebmaestro.com E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (906)485-4806 Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons. - Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]