Class generation warnings
Hi all,
when I generate classes I get the following warnings in each class (en
example of my class in java is shown below
package com.mysql.eo;
import org.apache.log4j.Logger;
public class Accounts extends _Accounts {
private static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(Accounts.class);
}
Warnings are:
The serializable class Accounts does not declare a static final
serialVersion UID field of type long
and
The field Accounts.log is never read locally
Then when I continue and run my project in a very simple component
where I try to insert a record in database (mysql), while the primary
key is inserted normally (automatically incremented) for each record
all other fields appear null.
Can anyone explain this to me? Sorry, I am a newcomer in Eclipse/
WOLips and EOModeler.
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Re: Class generation warnings
On 12-Mar-08, at 11:56 PM, Eleni Manou wrote:
Hi all,
when I generate classes I get the following warnings in each class
(en example of my class in java is shown below
package com.mysql.eo;
import org.apache.log4j.Logger;
public class Accounts extends _Accounts {
private static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(Accounts.class);
}
Warnings are:
As the label implies, these are just warnings. They will not affect
the functioning of your app.
The serializable class Accounts does not declare a static final
serialVersion UID field of type long
I have this one disabled in Eclipse - Preferences - Java - Compiler
- Errors/Warnings - Potential programming problems - Serializable
class without serialVersionUID: Ignore
Or click on the little lightbulb icon in the gutter and select: Add
default serial version ID
and
The field Accounts.log is never read locally
Again, just a warning.
If you are using Java 1.5 you can add @SuppressWarnings(unused) just
above it in your code.
Then when I continue and run my project in a very simple component
where I try to insert a record in database (mysql), while the
primary key is inserted normally (automatically incremented) for
each record all other fields appear null.
Can anyone explain this to me? Sorry, I am a newcomer in Eclipse/
WOLips and EOModeler.
Sound's like you have a bug.
Without seeing code I have no idea what it is.
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Re: Class generation warnings
Stravros,
Those warnings don't have anything to do with the empty records in the
database.
Can you paste the code that you use to set the values? Also, in your
Model, are the attributes of the Account entity flagged as Allows
Null? If you _deselect_ that (basically, tell WO that a value _must_
be set before trying to save it to the database) you will get a
warning before WO ever tries to save the record stating that the
attribute/relationship can not be null.
This should help you track down where the problem is.
Dave
On Mar 12, 2008, at 11:56 PM, Eleni Manou wrote:
Hi all,
when I generate classes I get the following warnings in each class
(en example of my class in java is shown below
package com.mysql.eo;
import org.apache.log4j.Logger;
public class Accounts extends _Accounts {
private static Logger log = Logger.getLogger(Accounts.class);
}
Warnings are:
The serializable class Accounts does not declare a static final
serialVersion UID field of type long
and
The field Accounts.log is never read locally
Then when I continue and run my project in a very simple component
where I try to insert a record in database (mysql), while the
primary key is inserted normally (automatically incremented) for
each record all other fields appear null.
Can anyone explain this to me? Sorry, I am a newcomer in Eclipse/
WOLips and EOModeler.
Stavros
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Re: WO WebStart problem
Okay, some addition information on this issue: The Servlet classpath files and web.xml file generated by the most recent WOProject Ant builds are at least _part_ of the problem (I'll document it) and by manually fixing the Classpath and web.xml files, I've gotten the error to change to: [2008-03-13 10:05:59,926] http-8080-1 NSLog$Log4JLogger - com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOStaticResourceRequestHandler Unable to get contents of file for uri. file: /Library/WebServer/ Documents/MyApplication/WebObjects/MyApplication.woa/eowebstart/ com.webobjects.eodistribution._EOWebStartAction/webStart/ JavaClient.jnlp; uri: /BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI/WebObjects/ BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI.woa/eowebstart/ com.webobjects.eodistribution._EOWebStartAction/webStart/JavaClient.jnlp It appears to be listing _two_ files there. One is in the /Library/ WebServer/Documents directory. This is a Servlet deployment sent to / Library/Tomcat/webapps/. Of course it can't find it in there. The second file seems to be the proper URL, but it can't find that either. Any guesses? On Mar 11, 2008, at 1:55 PM, David Avendasora wrote: Hi all, WO 5.4.1, Eclipse 3.3.2, WOLips Nightly, OS X 10.5.2 I just recently migrated a Java Client application from 5.3 to 5.4.1. Everything works just fine when building and launching the application from Eclipse using the WOAutoOpenClientApplication=true argument. It opens the Java Client application just fine using the launch script, but if I bring up the web-page that has a hyperlink to the JavaClient.jnlp file, I get this error: [2008-3-11 9:16:43 EDT] WorkerThread5 com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOStaticResourceRequestHandler Unable to get contents of file for uri. file: /Library/WebServer/ Documents/BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI/WebObjects/ BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI.woa/eowebstart/ com.webobjects.eodistribution._EOWebStartAction/webStart/ JavaClient.jnlp; uri: /BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI/WebObjects/ BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI.woa/eowebstart/ com.webobjects.eodistribution._EOWebStartAction/webStart/ JavaClient.jnlp [2008-3-11 9:16:43 EDT] WorkerThread5 java.io.FileNotFoundException: /Library/WebServer/Documents/ BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI/WebObjects/ BakeryManagement_D2JavaClientUI.woa/eowebstart/ com.webobjects.eodistribution._EOWebStartAction/webStart/ JavaClient.jnlp (No such file or directory) at java.io.FileInputStream.open(Native Method) at java.io.FileInputStream.init(FileInputStream.java:106) at com .webobjects .appserver ._private .WOStaticResourceRequestHandler .handleRequest(WOStaticResourceRequestHandler.java:86) at com .webobjects .appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1678) at com .webobjects .appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144) at com .webobjects .appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug of the ComponentContent UTF-8
Thank you for your helpful information.
I will try removing the encoding detection.
Thanks,
Mori
On 2008/03/13, at 3:12, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:
Ok I have had a look at it and what is broken is not the encoding
but the encoding detection. Remove the encoding detection and all
works correctly. The default encoding for Wo 5.4.x is UTF-8 anyway.
Pierre
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On Mar 12, 2008, at 8:40, Yoshihiko Mori wrote:
Hi Pierre,
1. version of Java:
$java -version
java version 1.5.0_13
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_13-
b05-237)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_13-119, mixed mode, sharing)
2. version of WebObjects: 5.4.1
3. version of MacOS X: 10.5.2
4. problems:
If I set the charset name to UTF-8 in the Main.java, I get
unexpected characters in the String01 when I input any Japanese
words in the TextField01 and click the SubmitButton01.
If I set the charset name to UTF8, I get normal Japanese words.
When I was using WebObjects 5.3 on the MacOS X 10.4, the UTF-8
was not a problem.
I think that this problem is not because of the ComponentContent
considering the test which I did recently.
5. my new test code (I will send binary by another mail for you.) :
//- Main.java
package com.hfsys.components;
import com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent;
import com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext;
import com.webobjects.appserver.WORequest;
import com.webobjects.appserver.WOResponse;
public class Main extends WOComponent {
private static final long serialVersionUID = 1L;
public String testStr01, testStr02;
public Main(WOContext context) {
super(context);
}
public WOComponent testSubmit(){
testStr02 = testStr01;
return null;
}
/** Set Japanese Encoding **/
public void takeValuesFromRequest(WORequest aRequest,WOContext
aContext)
{
aRequest.setFormValueEncodingDetectionEnabled(true);
aRequest.setDefaultFormValueEncoding(UTF8);
super.takeValuesFromRequest(aRequest,aContext);
}
public void appendToResponse(WOResponse aResponse,WOContext
aContext)
{
aResponse.setContentEncoding(UTF8);
super.appendToResponse(aResponse,aContext);
}
/** --Set Japanese Encoding **/
}
//- Main.html
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN
html
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=UTF-8/
titleTest/title
/head
body
Testbr/
webobject name=Form01
webobject name=TextField01/
webobject name=SubmitButton01/
/webobject
webobject name=String01/
/body
/html
//- Main.wod
Form01: WOForm {}
String01: WOString { value = testStr02; }
SubmitButton01: WOSubmitButton { action = testSubmit; value
= 保存; }
TextField01: WOTextField { value = testStr01; }
//- Main.woo
{
WebObjects Release = WebObjects 5.0;
encoding = NSUTF8StringEncoding;
}
//- Main.api
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8 standalone=yes?
wodefinitions
wo wocomponentcontent=false class=Main
/wo
/wodefinitions
Thanks,
Mori
On 2008/03/12, at 2:02, Mr. Pierre Frisch wrote:
What is the problem exactly? The name should be UTF-8 with a
dash. In Java 1.4 the API changed from encoding names to charset
names. The charset name use the same convention as the Web. The
encoding names are considered legacy by Sun but should still work
for String conversion. Could give me more detail of exactly what
the problem is? and which version of Java and WebObjects?
Thank you
Pierre
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On Mar 11, 2008, at 8:59, Yoshihiko Mori wrote:
Hi Chuck,
Thank you for your advice.
This was not a bug.
I changed the character set name from UTF-8 to UTF8 in the
parent Component code as follows and it seems that it went well.
In the past the UTF-8 was not a problem but it does not go well
now.
/** for UTF-8 **/
public void takeValuesFromRequest(WORequest aRequest,WOContext
aContext)
{
aRequest.setFormValueEncodingDetectionEnabled(true);
aRequest.setDefaultFormValueEncoding(UTF8);
super.takeValuesFromRequest(aRequest,aContext);
}
public void appendToResponse(WOResponse aResponse,WOContext
aContext)
{
aResponse.setContentEncoding(UTF8);
super.appendToResponse(aResponse,aContext);
}
/** **/
Thanks.
Mori
On 2008/03/12, at 0:05, Chuck Hill wrote:
Hello Mori,
On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:31 AM, Yoshihiko Mori wrote:
Dear all,
Dear developers.
I found a bug in the WOComponentContent.
It is as follows:
1. I set the Meta header in the Component as follows:
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=UTF-8/
2. I sent a String of UTF-8 in the WOTextField in the WOForm in
the WOComponentContent in the Component.
3. I got unexpected code and I found the following log include
the context().request() log:
content-type=[application/x-www-form-urlencoded]
4. If the
Sybase character set problem
We are in the process to migrate a very old WO 4.5 system using Sybase. The Sybase server has as character set cp850 and in the old EOModel WO 4.5 we added the databaseEncoding = NEXTSTEP instruction in the adaptor info. Everything worked fine. Now we use WO 5.4 and JDBC (Sybase JConnect version 6.0) and nothing appear to display the non english characters correctly (e.g, á,é,í,ó,ú, ñ, etc) . I tried the CHARSET parameter in the JDBC URL(.e.g, jdbc:sybase:Tds:address/database? CHARSET=cp850JCONNECT_VERSION=6) and many other options, none worked correctly Does anybody had the same problem before? Thanks, Ricardo. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
String Qualifier for Number
Hi All -
My users want to have the ability to search on a
Number attribute, but use String qualifiers such as
Contains ('*value*'), Begins With ('value*'), Ends
With ('*value').
I have a table named part that contains a primaryKey
named part_id (Number and exposed) and a String called
descriptor.
Is there a way to create an EOQualifier that
replicates the SQL in the example below?
Example: Select all parts with a part_id that begins
with 3.
select * from part where to_char(part_id) like '3%';
Thanks.
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Problem deleting an object with a flattened relationship
Hello-
I am having a strange problem with our application on WebObjects 5.4
(not sure if it was present on 5.3, just giving some background).
The error occurs when I attempt to delete an object which has a
flattened relationship. The error I get is:
java.lang.IllegalStateException: A valid global ID could not be
obtained for entity named UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem, relationship
named policies, primary key dictionary {policyID = 169; reportID =
15; }.
FileLine# Method Package
EODatabaseContext.java 4867
databaseOperationForIntermediateRowFromSourceObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java 4891
recordDeleteForIntermediateRowFromSourceObjectRelationshipDestinationObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java 4944
nullifyAttributesInRelationshipSourceObjectDestinationObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java 4970
nullifyAttributesInRelationshipSourceObjectDestinationObjects
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java 5882 recordChangesInEditingContext
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java 373 saveChangesInEditingContext
com.webobjects.eocontrol
EOEditingContext.java 3176saveChanges com.webobjects.eocontrol
ReportChooser.java 26 deleteReport
The model classes involved are Policy, UnknownStatusPolicyReport, and
UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem. UnknownStatusPolicyReport is a
subclass (using single-table inheritance) of Report. A
UnknownStatusPolicyReport has a to-many relationship to
UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem, and UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem has a
to-one relationship to Policy (each item in the report points to an
insurance policy). I defined a flattened to-many relationship on
UnknownStatusPolicyReport called policies which is defined as
items.policy. I also set the delete rule on the
UnknownStatusPolicyReport items relationship to Cascade so the
UnknownStatusPolicyReportItems get deleted when the
UnknownStatusPolicyReport is deleted. The code that does the delete:
public WOComponent deleteReport() {
Session s = (Session) session();
s.user().removeFromReports((Report)entity);
session().defaultEditingContext().deleteObject((EOEnterpriseObject)
entity);
session().defaultEditingContext().saveChanges();
return null;
}
Any assistance would be greatly appreciatedI am sure I'm missing
something fundamental here about how EOF works.
Thanks,
Greg
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Re: Problem deleting an object with a flattened relationship
On Mar 13, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Greg Lappen wrote:
Hello-
I am having a strange problem with our application on WebObjects 5.4
(not sure if it was present on 5.3, just giving some background).
The error occurs when I attempt to delete an object which has a
flattened relationship. The error I get is:
java.lang.IllegalStateException: A valid global ID could not be
obtained for entity named UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem,
relationship named policies, primary key dictionary {policyID = 169;
reportID = 15; }.
File
Line#
Method
Package
EODatabaseContext.java
4867
databaseOperationForIntermediateRowFromSourceObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java
4891
recordDeleteForIntermediateRowFromSourceObjectRelationshipDestinationObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java
4944
nullifyAttributesInRelationshipSourceObjectDestinationObject
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java
4970
nullifyAttributesInRelationshipSourceObjectDestinationObjects
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EODatabaseContext.java
5882
recordChangesInEditingContext
com.webobjects.eoaccess
EOObjectStoreCoordinator.java
373
saveChangesInEditingContext
com.webobjects.eocontrol
EOEditingContext.java
3176
saveChanges
com.webobjects.eocontrol
ReportChooser.java
26
deleteReport
The model classes involved are Policy, UnknownStatusPolicyReport,
and UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem. UnknownStatusPolicyReport is a
subclass (using single-table inheritance) of Report. A
UnknownStatusPolicyReport has a to-many relationship to
UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem, and UnknownStatusPolicyReportItem has
a to-one relationship to Policy (each item in the report points to
an insurance policy). I defined a flattened to-many relationship on
UnknownStatusPolicyReport called policies which is defined as
items.policy. I also set the delete rule on the
UnknownStatusPolicyReport items relationship to Cascade so the
UnknownStatusPolicyReportItems get deleted when the
UnknownStatusPolicyReport is deleted. The code that does the delete:
public WOComponent deleteReport() {
Session s = (Session) session();
s.user().removeFromReports((Report)entity);
Is s.user().editingContext() == entity.editingContext()?
session().defaultEditingContext().deleteObject((EOEnterpriseObject)
entity);
session().defaultEditingContext().saveChanges();
return null;
}
Any assistance would be greatly appreciatedI am sure I'm missing
something fundamental here about how EOF works.
Thanks,
Greg
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Re: String Qualifier for Number
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Carter Wojcik wrote:
Hi All -
My users want to have the ability to search on a
Number attribute, but use String qualifiers such as
Contains ('*value*'), Begins With ('value*'), Ends
With ('*value').
I have a table named part that contains a primaryKey
named part_id (Number and exposed) and a String called
descriptor.
Is there a way to create an EOQualifier that
replicates the SQL in the example below?
Example: Select all parts with a part_id that begins
with 3.
select * from part where to_char(part_id) like '3%';
Maybe...
Add a new attribute called partIDAsString
Set the column to part_id
Set the datatype as string
Mark it as read only
Set the read format to to_char(%P)
Then make a qualifier on partIDAsString.
Chuck
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Re: WO WebStart problem
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:33, David Avendasora wrote: It appears to be listing _two_ files there. One is in the /Library/ WebServer/Documents directory. This is a Servlet deployment sent to /Library/Tomcat/webapps/. Of course it can't find it in there. The second file seems to be the proper URL, but it can't find that either. Any guesses? Well, it sounds like the reference you have to the JNLP in your WebComponent is somehow screwed up. Maybe if you posted the component bindings, somebody would be able to see the problem more clearly... Apparently (since you actually CAN open the JNLP through the launch script) this has nothing to do with the JC part of things. Maybe you can log how and where WOLips finds and launches the JNLP? I'm just guessing here, WebStart is not really my thing... F ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have last year's experience, so I can organize it faster :-) Ouch! That is SOON. On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Yeah, I can start organize WOWODC :-) June 9 - 13 -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:48 PM, David LeBer wrote: June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On 13-Mar-08, at 4:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I have last year's experience, so I can organize it faster :-) If I drank coffee, it would have just squirted out my nose... Ouch! That is SOON. On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:49 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Yeah, I can start organize WOWODC :-) June 9 - 13 -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dleber%40codeferous.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On 13-Mar-08, at 4:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards- based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. The first rule of WebObjects, don't talk about WebObjects. The second rule... ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
The first rule of WebObjects, don't talk about WebObjects. The second rule... Profit? I smell a WWDC 2008 T-Shirt :) ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On 13-Mar-08, at 5:07 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: The first rule of WebObjects, don't talk about WebObjects. The second rule... Profit? I smell a WWDC 2008 T-Shirt :) Sign me up! ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Hi! I thought you were used by now! Yours Miguel Arroz On 2008/03/13, at 20:59, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards- based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:48 PM, David LeBer wrote: June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Miguel Arroz http://www.terminalapp.net http://www.ipragma.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards- based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
You should put that quote on the front cover of Practical Webobjects :-) Simon On 13 Mar 2008, at 21:14, Chuck Hill wrote: Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
I realize this is a premature question, but... Are we expecting WOWODC to be the Sunday before WWDC, like it was last year, or are there any plans to expand it to a multi-day event? I'm eager to make my travel plans ASAP in an effort to try to save some money. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jglists%40yellowinteractive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
It should be a two days event. I don't know if it will be before or after WWDC, I have to check with the Marriott and the Parc 55 hotels. I realize this is a premature question, but... Are we expecting WOWODC to be the Sunday before WWDC, like it was last year, or are there any plans to expand it to a multi-day event? I'm eager to make my travel plans ASAP in an effort to try to save some money. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jglists% 40yellowinteractive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40os.ca This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Hi Mike, I assume Apple figures that it has introduced about as many people as it can to the OS X specific technologies that enable rapid application development. I think the plan now is to grab the people using existing cross- platform technologies and get them onto Macintosh by illustrating that a Mac makes a better developer's platform than the alternatives. That gets more developers using Macs so the barrier to exploring the OS X specific technologies is lowered. An unbelievable number of people using open source technologies on the server are currently developing on Windows machines. It seems to me that Apple is trying to get as many developers buying and using Apple hardware as possible. Even Windows (e.g. ASP.NET) developers are using Macs now and just running Visual Studio in VMware Fusion. Running Windows, particularly Vista, on Fusion is in many ways superior to running it on a whitebox system. So the focus of WWDC seems to be to bring in new developers. We've already been sold on Apple so we're going to get less marketing until Apple itself develops something new and exciting, which it hasn't been doing lately aside from the iPhone. Or rather I'm sure that Apple has been developing new and exciting things but they aren't at the salable stage yet. Marketing WO is not really worth it to Apple at this point and WWDC is all about marketing developer technologies. -Dave On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards- based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:48 PM, David LeBer wrote: June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dfe%40tgwbd.org This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Come on, Chuck... don't be so condescending... I understand that a large part of WOF attraction is it snob, elitist appeal, but still... no reason to belittle everything else... Plus... producing truly unmaintainable crap is not as straightforward as it sounds... with or without WOF... How To Write Unmaintainable Code -- Roedy Green http://freeworld.thc.org/root/phun/unmaintain.html Big Ball of Mud -- Brian Foote and Joseph Yoder http://www.laputan.org/mud/ In any case, even the best of intention can turn into a unmitigated disaster in the blink of an eye: How a beautiful software system becomes Frankenstein -- Andriy Solovey http://softwarecreation.org/2008/how-a-beautiful-software-system-becomes-frankenstein/ -- PA http://alt.textdrive.com/nanoki/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Hi Chuck, See my signature below (and thank you!): On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ddenboer% 40apple.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On 13 Mar 2008, at 21:14, Chuck Hill wrote: Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. hee hee A corollary: There's more than one way to make unmaintainable crap with Perl. TMTOWTMUCWP? jake ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
I recognize that Apple has nearly zero incentive to market WO and that it has but a tentative association with selling Xserves. I'm completely a realist about this. I'm not asking for them to give WO a marketing budget, because it honestly doesn't make sense. I just find it to be really unfortunate that it doesn't even make the list. ms On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:30 PM, David Elliott wrote: Hi Mike, I assume Apple figures that it has introduced about as many people as it can to the OS X specific technologies that enable rapid application development. I think the plan now is to grab the people using existing cross- platform technologies and get them onto Macintosh by illustrating that a Mac makes a better developer's platform than the alternatives. That gets more developers using Macs so the barrier to exploring the OS X specific technologies is lowered. An unbelievable number of people using open source technologies on the server are currently developing on Windows machines. It seems to me that Apple is trying to get as many developers buying and using Apple hardware as possible. Even Windows (e.g. ASP.NET) developers are using Macs now and just running Visual Studio in VMware Fusion. Running Windows, particularly Vista, on Fusion is in many ways superior to running it on a whitebox system. So the focus of WWDC seems to be to bring in new developers. We've already been sold on Apple so we're going to get less marketing until Apple itself develops something new and exciting, which it hasn't been doing lately aside from the iPhone. Or rather I'm sure that Apple has been developing new and exciting things but they aren't at the salable stage yet. Marketing WO is not really worth it to Apple at this point and WWDC is all about marketing developer technologies. -Dave On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:48 PM, David LeBer wrote: June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/dfe%40tgwbd.org This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
No, no, no!! Come on, Chuck, please be condescending. I laughed my socks off at the last quote. Simon On 13 Mar 2008, at 21:30, Petite Abeille wrote: Come on, Chuck... don't be so condescending... ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WO WebStart problem
I don't think the launch script is actually calling the JNLP. It just
calls the actual java class directly from the server, as opposed to
the JNLP file doing it.
Here's all the Component and Java stuff involved:
Main.html page:
WEBOBJECT NAME=JavaClientLinkclick here/WEBOBJECT
Main.wod:
JavaClientLink: WOHyperlink {
href = javaClientLink;
}
Main.java
public String javaClientLink() {
return WOJavaClientComponent.webStartActionURL(context(),
JavaClient.class.getName());
}
Which Calls JavaClient component:
JavaClient.html
WEBOBJECT NAME=JavaClientComponent/WEBOBJECT
JavaClient.wod
JavaClientComponent: WOJavaClientComponent {
applicationClassName =
com.webobjects.eogeneration.EODynamicApplication;
applicationName = Bakery Management Admin;
applicationDescription = Bakery Management Admin Application;
downloadClientClasses = noDownloadClientClasses;
vendor = David Avendasora, Best Maid Cookie Company;
}
JavaClient.java
package com.bestmaid.bakeryManagement.server;
import com.webobjects.appserver.*;
public class JavaClient extends WOComponent {
public JavaClient(WOContext context) {
super(context);
}
}
On Mar 13, 2008, at 4:41 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote:
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:33, David Avendasora wrote:
It appears to be listing _two_ files there. One is in the /Library/
WebServer/Documents directory. This is a Servlet deployment sent
to /Library/Tomcat/webapps/. Of course it can't find it in there.
The second file seems to be the proper URL, but it can't find that
either.
Any guesses?
Well, it sounds like the reference you have to the JNLP in your
WebComponent is somehow screwed up. Maybe if you posted the
component bindings, somebody would be able to see the problem more
clearly...
Apparently (since you actually CAN open the JNLP through the launch
script) this has nothing to do with the JC part of things. Maybe you
can log how and where WOLips finds and launches the JNLP?
I'm just guessing here, WebStart is not really my thing...
F
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Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 2:39 PM, Jake Kauth wrote: On 13 Mar 2008, at 21:14, Chuck Hill wrote: Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. hee hee A corollary: There's more than one way to make unmaintainable crap with Perl. TMTOWTMUCWP? WWAPDD? What would a Perl developer do? Perl: an abomination upon software development. Chuck and not a great fan of Perl syntax -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:40 PM, Simon McLean wrote: No, no, no!! Come on, Chuck, please be condescending. I laughed my socks off at the last quote. If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution -- Robert Sewell ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: Perl: an abomination upon software development. Java is the most distressing thing to happen to computing since MS-DOS -- Alan Kay ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Strange servlet behaviour with WOSession subclass
Hi All, Just a quick question for anyone out there deploying with Tomcat WAR files. I have an existing application that runs fine under the standard WO deployment on Xserve (10.4/WO5.3) and I've spend the last week or so getting it into 10.5/Eclipse/WOLips so that I can deploy to Tomcat/Linux. Both running Sun Java 1.5. Using the latest Eclipse/ WOLips on 10.5 along with the latest 5.4 WO. The really crazy thing is that although it compiles and runs fine in my Eclipse/WOLips dev environment, once it gets to the servlet container (via a .war file) it complains about not being able to find my keys/methods/instance vars in Session. They're certainly in there, so before I go tearing through the app to debug, has anyone seen anything like this during servlet/war deployment? My bindings are of the session.keyname type and I believe it's actually trying to use WOSession instead of my subclass. Thanks for any help or points in the right direction!! Jeff ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Perl: an abomination upon software development. Chuck and not a great fan of Perl syntax Ya know, I used to feel like Perl was well, line noise. Then I read Effective Perl Programing. http://www.amazon.com/Effective-Perl-Programming-Programs-Developers/dp/0201419750/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1205446647sr=8-1 And I realized, Perl isn't line noise. It's math. Yeah, there's a lot of symbols and stuff, but math has lots of symbols and stuff. The whole regular expression thing makes the line noise problem worse, but regular expressions just look like that. I think people judge Perl a bit unfairly. It grew out of awk/sed/sh scripting, and its way better then any of those other options. I would much rather maintain a .pl script then a .sh script. At least with Perl I don't have to figure out the eval command every time I want to add two numbers together. So if I want to parse a text file, mangle the data in it, and spit out another text file, I use perl. If I want to write a .sh script that has any branching at all, I use perl instead. The real problem with perl is that people use it for programs than about 2 pages of source. That's where you start getting into trouble. At that point, use Python, cause it can do the same regular expression stuff, and you end up with decent code at the end. So perl? Great tool, but its duct tape. Don't build your house out of it. Pierce P.S. Meanwhile, Ant still sucks. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Can the following behaviour be explained please. We have an attribute defined in our model as: Name - endDate Column - END_DATE External Type - timestamp Allows Null - unchecked Data Type - Timestamp - NS Timestamp T When I generate SQL this attribute gets the following SQL generated: `END_DATE` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, While I can understand the default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP why does it add the on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP? Can this behaviour be switched off? Thanks, Peter Peter Thompson Senior Developer/Architect Run The Red www.runthered.com http://www.runthered.com/ === E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M: + 64 21 241 3266 / + 64 27 441 3255 DDI: + 64 4 801 2806 P: +64 4 384 6880 F: +64 4 384 6875 Skype: peterwgtnnz PO Box 11-703, Level 2 Tadix House, 1 Blair Street, Te Aro, Wellington 6011, New Zealand === ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Hi! [ Everyone fighting around about programming languages ] Came on guys, you have some years of experience, you should know better: this all sucks. Period. Now, back to the subject, what makes me really pissed off is seeing Apple promoting other technologies like perl and python and RoR and whatever, and not their own. It's not just a oh they should market that thing. It's that, if I *pay* to go to an Apple conference, if I go to an **Apple** conference, I ***want*** to see Apple stuff. If I wanted to see RoR or perl on any of that crap, I would go to the matching conference. I hope we don't end like last year (or 2006? I don't recall) when people asked about WO on the Web Server session and the 37 signals guy said yeah, you want to talk about WO in every session, next question please. Oh, I'm sorry, I though I was on an Apple conference... Anyway, it's the same thing every year. At least we don't see people running around screaming Oh my god, they have killed it! any more. Yours Miguel Arroz Miguel Arroz http://www.terminalapp.net http://www.ipragma.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
When I generate SQL this attribute gets the following SQL generated: `END_DATE` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, While I can understand the default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP why does it add the on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP? Can this behaviour be switched off? Entity Modeler doesn't generate SQL, it uses EOF. What version of WO, what database, what plugin? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? WO doesn't really seem to be very important to apple from a WWDC perspective, and I don't think they are too concerned about WO specific information being made public outside WWDC, so perhaps Pierre could help out in this regard if NDA's are likely to be an issue. On 14/03/2008, at 6:49 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Yeah, I can start organize WOWODC :-) June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/qdolan%40gmail.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Actually, I believe I've noticed a slight up-tick in the number of 'novice' WebObjects users in the WebObjects and WOLips/Wonder mailing lists. If this is not my imagination, there's still people out there joining our platform .. Gavin On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:30 PM, David Elliott wrote: I assume Apple figures that it has introduced about as many people as it can to the OS X specific technologies that enable rapid application development. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Q wrote: Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? That was always the plan. However... we had a large number of A/V technical problems. Development skill apparently does not carry over to A/V skills. The results were less than fully satisfactory. We should be prepared this year. WO doesn't really seem to be very important to apple from a WWDC perspective, and I don't think they are too concerned about WO specific information being made public outside WWDC, so perhaps Pierre could help out in this regard if NDA's are likely to be an issue. This is Apple. Secrecy and NDAs are always an issue. They pay full attention to WO in this area. I think Pierre's hands are pretty firmly tied in what he can say. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Le 08-03-13 à 18:57, Chuck Hill a écrit : On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Q wrote: Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? That was always the plan. However... we had a large number of A/V technical problems. Development skill apparently does not carry over to A/V skills. The results were less than fully satisfactory. We should be prepared this year. I can resume the A/V problems to this: - DON'T EVER USE a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station - it's even worse to use a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station AND a AirPort Base Station - wired microphones are a PITA - bad lengthy VGA cable is BAD WO doesn't really seem to be very important to apple from a WWDC perspective, and I don't think they are too concerned about WO specific information being made public outside WWDC, so perhaps Pierre could help out in this regard if NDA's are likely to be an issue. This is Apple. Secrecy and NDAs are always an issue. They pay full attention to WO in this area. I think Pierre's hands are pretty firmly tied in what he can say. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 13, 2008 6:49:07 PM EDT To: Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? WO 5.3, MySQL, WoLips 2.0.0.4118. Thanks, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Mike Schrag Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 11:40 a.m. To: AppleWO List Subject: Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? Importance: High When I generate SQL this attribute gets the following SQL generated: `END_DATE` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, While I can understand the default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP why does it add the on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP? Can this behaviour be switched off? Entity Modeler doesn't generate SQL, it uses EOF. What version of WO, what database, what plugin? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Are you sure timestamp is the correct external type? I seem to recall that timestamp on mysql actually is a last modified stamp? hazy memory, though. ms On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 13, 2008 6:49:07 PM EDT To: Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? WO 5.3, MySQL, WoLips 2.0.0.4118. Thanks, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Mike Schrag Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 11:40 a.m. To: AppleWO List Subject: Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? Importance: High When I generate SQL this attribute gets the following SQL generated: `END_DATE` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, While I can understand the default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP why does it add the on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP? Can this behaviour be switched off? Entity Modeler doesn't generate SQL, it uses EOF. What version of WO, what database, what plugin? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Yes; I think that should be datetime for MySQL. cheers. Are you sure timestamp is the correct external type? I seem to recall that timestamp on mysql actually is a last modified stamp? hazy memory, though. ... WO 5.3, MySQL, WoLips 2.0.0.4118. ___ Andrew Lindesay technology : www.lindesay.co.nz business : www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] RE: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Mike, Yes your are correct. From the MySQL manual: A TIMESTAMP column is useful for recording the date and time of an INSERT or UPDATE operation. By default, the first TIMESTAMP column in a table is automatically set to the date and time of the most recent operation if you do not assign it a value yourself. You can also set any TIMESTAMP column to the current date and time by assigning it a NULL value. Variations on automatic initialization and update properties are described in Section 10.3.1.1, TIMESTAMP Properties http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/timestamp.html . Learning something new everyday! Many thanks for your help! Cheers, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Mike Schrag Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 12:12 p.m. To: AppleWO List Subject: Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? Are you sure timestamp is the correct external type? I seem to recall that timestamp on mysql actually is a last modified stamp? hazy memory, though. ms On Mar 13, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: Peter Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: March 13, 2008 6:49:07 PM EDT To: Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? WO 5.3, MySQL, WoLips 2.0.0.4118. Thanks, Peter From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Mike Schrag Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 11:40 a.m. To: AppleWO List Subject: Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? Importance: High When I generate SQL this attribute gets the following SQL generated: `END_DATE` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, While I can understand the default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP why does it add the on update CURRENT_TIMESTAMP? Can this behaviour be switched off? Entity Modeler doesn't generate SQL, it uses EOF. What version of WO, what database, what plugin? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimensi on.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[SOLVED] RE: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour?
Yes agreed. Thanks, Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of Andrew Lindesay Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 12:16 p.m. To: AppleWO List Subject: Re: Entity Modeler - Strange Behaviour? Yes; I think that should be datetime for MySQL. cheers. Are you sure timestamp is the correct external type? I seem to recall that timestamp on mysql actually is a last modified stamp? hazy memory, though. ... WO 5.3, MySQL, WoLips 2.0.0.4118. ___ Andrew Lindesay technology : www.lindesay.co.nz business : www.silvereye.co.nz ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/peter.thompson%40r unthered.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
WO doesn't really seem to be very important to apple from a WWDC perspective I agree. For us non-US based developers I just can't see it's worth the cost and effort to go to WWDC... Simon ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: String Qualifier for Number
Chuck Hill wrote:
On Mar 13, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Carter Wojcik wrote:
Hi All -
My users want to have the ability to search on a
Number attribute, but use String qualifiers such as
Contains ('*value*'), Begins With ('value*'), Ends
With ('*value').
I have a table named part that contains a primaryKey
named part_id (Number and exposed) and a String called
descriptor.
Is there a way to create an EOQualifier that
replicates the SQL in the example below?
Example: Select all parts with a part_id that begins
with 3.
select * from part where to_char(part_id) like '3%';
Maybe...
Add a new attribute called partIDAsString
Set the column to part_id
Set the datatype as string
Mark it as read only
Set the read format to to_char(%P)
Then make a qualifier on partIDAsString.
Interesting approach. I hope it works.
The other day I was trying to do exactly the same thing as descibed by
Carter.
I used the Wonder RegExQualifier class as a base for my own EOQualifier
implementation and created the sql as required calling to_char(id)
it was all going well up until it actually had to do the fetch, thats
when JDBCColumn in the JDBCAdaptor classes got in the way and spoiled
the fun; it checks that the object type provided matches the models type
but '%1001%' is NAN so it throws an Exception. I'm not sure if there
is somethign i can do to get around this or not?
At that stage i figured i needed to try something else. Your idea above
is next in line.
Thanks.
- shaun
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Re: WWDC 08
On 14/03/2008, at 8:57 AM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Q wrote: Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? That was always the plan. However... we had a large number of A/V technical problems. Development skill apparently does not carry over to A/V skills. The results were less than fully satisfactory. We should be prepared this year. WO doesn't really seem to be very important to apple from a WWDC perspective, and I don't think they are too concerned about WO specific information being made public outside WWDC, so perhaps Pierre could help out in this regard if NDA's are likely to be an issue. This is Apple. Secrecy and NDAs are always an issue. They pay full attention to WO in this area. I think Pierre's hands are pretty firmly tied in what he can say. Yes, although I didn't mean to infer that apple doesn't care about WO from an NDA perspective, more that if there was a potential issue preventing the content from being made available there are people who could potentially help expedite or coordinate the necessary official announcements to make things legit. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
To fuel the flames of righteous rage, the word iPhone is used 33 times on the web page. More times then Mac, Apple, computer, life, develop*, and possibly even more times then punctuation symbols. Maybe we should all just stop programming, get an iPhone, move to the Caribbean, and multi-touch ourselves into paradise :) F On Mar 13, 2008, at 16:48, David LeBer wrote: June 9 - 13 http://developer.apple.com/wwdc/ ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On Mar 13, 2008, at 6:16 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: To fuel the flames of righteous rage, the word iPhone is used 33 times on the web page. More times then Mac, Apple, computer, life, develop*, and possibly even more times then punctuation symbols. Maybe we should all just stop programming, get an iPhone, move to the Caribbean, and multi-touch ourselves into paradise :) Now THAT sounds like a Tshirt for Mike to make: I multi-touch myself. :-P -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Best. Quote. Ever. Especially when said with the scorn and derision that I think it was. On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:16 PM, Florijan Stamenkovic wrote: multi-touch ourselves into paradise ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
On 14/03/2008, at 9:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 08-03-13 à 18:57, Chuck Hill a écrit : On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:48 PM, Q wrote: Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? That was always the plan. However... we had a large number of A/V technical problems. Development skill apparently does not carry over to A/V skills. The results were less than fully satisfactory. We should be prepared this year. I can resume the A/V problems to this: - DON'T EVER USE a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station - it's even worse to use a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station AND a AirPort Base Station You might want to take a simple approach next time, use real video cameras running off A/C adapters, record to tape then suck it into your edit station later using firewire. - wired microphones are a PITA Minidisc players were good for this years ago, when you could still buy them. I don't know what devices are usually used these days, but you could record the audio stand alone and mix it back in later using the camera audio to sync things together. - bad lengthy VGA cable is BAD -- Seeya...Q Quinton Dolan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gold Coast, QLD, Australia (GMT+10) Ph: +61 419 729 806 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WWDC 08
Hi, I'd offer to record the event, but I'm not sure if I'll make it down. Is there the possibility this year of making the course material, videos etc available for purchase by people who don't attend? That was always the plan. However... we had a large number of A/ V technical problems. Development skill apparently does not carry over to A/V skills. The results were less than fully satisfactory. We should be prepared this year. I can resume the A/V problems to this: - DON'T EVER USE a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station - it's even worse to use a PowerBook G4 as a iMovie capture station AND a AirPort Base Station You might want to take a simple approach next time, use real video cameras running off A/C adapters, record to tape then suck it into your edit station later using firewire. I normally use a good DV cam with XLR audio in, there's often an audio line out that you can plug straight into. I rarely use tapes anymore, I record straight to Quicktime on my laptop using Wirecast and firewire to the camera. Wirecast allows for an array of scene selections including the presenter's desktop, you can do this wirelessly through a local network. - wired microphones are a PITA Minidisc players were good for this years ago, when you could still buy them. I don't know what devices are usually used these days, but you could record the audio stand alone and mix it back in later using the camera audio to sync things together. Post-production is BAD. - bad lengthy VGA cable is BAD Gordon Gordon Belray Information Architect and Imaging System Manager Information Technology Services Robarts Library 416.946.8617cell: 416.427.7007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FInally
Finally I finished the tutorial.. heheh I understood most of what I did, I will read more to get clear what I didn't. Pity what I read about the WWDC08, are they trying to bury the WO framework? anyway.. I will keep learning becuae I LOVE developing on a mac, and more when it with its own FW. Gus ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FInally
On 13-Mar-08, at 10:56 PM, Gustavo Pizano wrote: Finally I finished the tutorial.. heheh I understood most of what I did, I will read more to get clear what I didn't. Pity what I read about the WWDC08, are they trying to bury the WO framework? anyway.. I will keep learning becuae I LOVE developing on a mac, and more when it with its own FW. Oh, don't pay any attention to the snarky comments. They start this time every year. The WO Community is infinitely stronger and more cohesive then anytime in recent memory and the frameworks are far from dead. So you picked a good time to join us. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OpenLaszo WebObjects
If anyone can answer the questions on my post, that would be great. http://blog.benkolive.com/2008/03/openlaszlo-webobjects.html Well, when I started investigating what tools I was going to use to develop my site, I discovered OpenLaszlo. Of the free tools I have investigated so far, it is by far the easiest and quickest way to develop a very attractive front end. And it's completely object-orient which should make WebObjects folks feel right at home. Furthermore, it deploys as a JSP. It gets better and better. Well almost... OpenLaszlo has several ways to get data into its front end. It can read XML files and through JSP servlets it can access any JDBC database from what I could tell. Now for a WebApp where the user just retrieves information (e.g. real estate listings), one could create a WO app with DirectAction methods that return XML. Great! However, I would imagine that's not the best way to make a fully interactive app. Well, according to the OpenLaszlo (OL)docs, they have a Java-RPC. From what I can tell, your OL app (since it is a servlet itself) can access the objects of other Java classes as long as the classes are in the the OL app folder. Unfortunately, I'm not a Tomcat, J2EE, JSP (whatever) expert...heck, I'm barely a novice. So I have no idea how one would actually accomplish this. But the thought of it is surely exciting. Instead of worrying about SOAP or XML, being able to directly access our WO Objects would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. If anyone who has done this or might have an dea of how to do it. Please post a step-by-step tutorial. You would be my saviour and when I sell my app to Google for $832 million, I'll make sure you get a piece of the pie! Daniel Brajkovic ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWDC 08
Hola Lets face it. Apple had the best mousetrap with WO. They did not maintain it and now have a big void relying on opensource. No enterprise - Just bring on the Trinkets. Pretty disgusting and still looking at this site once and a while - Apple has created a nightmare - but they don't really care just buy a iphone and move on. They know they can be very bad and still be better than windows. They will probably let Sun up with their visual web program which just may come back to haunt them. On Mar 13, 2008, at 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Send Webobjects-dev mailing list submissions to webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/webobjects-dev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Webobjects-dev digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: WWDC 08 (David den Boer) 2. Re: WWDC 08 (Jake Kauth) 3. Re: WWDC 08 (Mike Schrag) 4. Re: WWDC 08 (Simon McLean) 5. Re: WO WebStart problem (David Avendasora) 6. Re: WWDC 08 (Chuck Hill) 7. Re: WWDC 08 (Petite Abeille) 8. Re: WWDC 08 (Petite Abeille) 9. Strange servlet behaviour with WOSession subclass (Jeff Smith) 10. Re: WWDC 08 (Pierce T. Wetter III) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:33:53 + From: David den Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WWDC 08 To: Chuck Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AppleWO List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Chuck, See my signature below (and thank you!): On Mar 13, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: On Mar 13, 2008, at 1:59 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: See how to use built-in and optimized web technologies such as Perl, Python, Ruby, Ruby on Rails, PHP, and MySQL, deliver standards-based in-house applications to Safari on Mac OS X, Windows, and iPhone OS. Seriously, Apple. WTF. WO is hard. PHP is easy. People expect Apple to equate with easy. Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. Chuck -- Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ddenboer% 40apple.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.apple.com/pipermail/webobjects-dev/attachments/20080313/37a582b6/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:39:15 -0700 From: Jake Kauth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WWDC 08 To: Chuck Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: AppleWO List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 13 Mar 2008, at 21:14, Chuck Hill wrote: Sure, you make unmaintainable crap with PHP, but it is easy to make unmaintainable crap. hee hee A corollary: There's more than one way to make unmaintainable crap with Perl. TMTOWTMUCWP? jake -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.apple.com/pipermail/webobjects-dev/attachments/20080313/f5dcefcb/attachment.html -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:39:16 -0400 From: Mike Schrag [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: WWDC 08 To: AppleWO List webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes I recognize that Apple has nearly zero incentive to market WO and that it has but a tentative association with selling Xserves. I'm completely a realist about this. I'm not asking for them to give WO a marketing budget, because it honestly doesn't make sense. I just find it to be really unfortunate that it doesn't even make the list. ms On Mar 13, 2008, at 5:30 PM, David Elliott wrote: Hi Mike, I assume Apple figures that it has introduced about as many people as it can to the OS X specific technologies that enable rapid application development. I think the plan now is to grab the people using existing cross- platform technologies and get them onto Macintosh by illustrating that a Mac makes a better developer's platform than the alternatives. That gets more developers using Macs so the barrier
