Re: New look for wocommunity.org
nice job :) On 01/feb/2010, at 13.35, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
why not spotlight? ( if your webserver is on osx ) On 02/feb/2010, at 19.04, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Le 10-02-02 à 13:21, Amedeo Mantica a écrit : why not spotlight? ( if your webserver is on osx ) Spotlight Server = pure crap. And I don't think it will index non local documents... On 02/feb/2010, at 19.04, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 23:06, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/amedeomailing%40insigno.it This email sent to amedeomail...@insigno.it ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/02/02, at 20:52, Mike Schrag wrote: Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to ar...@guiamac.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
don't copy wonder's -- it changes fairly often and seems to have decent coverage on google. ms On Feb 2, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-02 à 15:52, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... That too, I can make a copy of the Wonder and WO javadoc on wocommunity.org. At least if Apple move (or remove) the docs again, we will have a local copy and make sure that we actually put some rewrite rules if we need to move it. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good thing. Trust me on that. On Feb 2, 2010, at 1:49 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: don't copy wonder's -- it changes fairly often and seems to have decent coverage on google. ms On Feb 2, 2010, at 4:20 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-02 à 15:52, Mike Schrag a écrit : Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... That too, I can make a copy of the Wonder and WO javadoc on wocommunity.org. At least if Apple move (or remove) the docs again, we will have a local copy and make sure that we actually put some rewrite rules if we need to move it. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good thing. Trust me on that. yes. definitely. do not copy it. whatever you do. that is all. cough. ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
I looked at the robots.txt file on developer.apple.com and I don't see any rules that stop bots to fetch anything in /legacy. And I do see some stuff from the 5.4.2 docs in a Google search, but most of the time, 3.x and 4.5.x links shows up before the 5.3/5.4 docs. It's all crap. Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/02/02, at 20:52, Mike Schrag wrote: Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to ar...@guiamac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Do you think Apple would be willing to give you a link on the WebObjects home page: http://developer.apple.com/tools/webobjects/? Nice work Pascal thank you for all your efforts. Johnny On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I looked at the robots.txt file on developer.apple.com and I don't see any rules that stop bots to fetch anything in /legacy. And I do see some stuff from the 5.4.2 docs in a Google search, but most of the time, 3.x and 4.5.x links shows up before the 5.3/5.4 docs. It's all crap. Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/02/02, at 20:52, Mike Schrag wrote: Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to ar...@guiamac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jlmiller%40kahalawai.com This email sent to jlmil...@kahalawai.com Johnny Miller Kahalawai Media Corp http://www.kahalawai.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
don't count on it On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:12 PM, Johnny Miller wrote: Do you think Apple would be willing to give you a link on the WebObjects home page: http://developer.apple.com/tools/webobjects/? Nice work Pascal thank you for all your efforts. Johnny On Feb 2, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: I looked at the robots.txt file on developer.apple.com and I don't see any rules that stop bots to fetch anything in /legacy. And I do see some stuff from the 5.4.2 docs in a Google search, but most of the time, 3.x and 4.5.x links shows up before the 5.3/5.4 docs. It's all crap. Hi! YES! 5.3 and 5.4. Since it moved to legacy, Google does not index it any more... maybe they (apple) have some robots.txt file that causes that. Hope they release the new version soon... o :) Yours Miguel Arroz On 2010/02/02, at 20:52, Mike Schrag wrote: Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? Tried it, but far from perfect : http://www.wocommunity.org/search.html Searching for terms like EOUtilities doesn't bring anything from the WO JavaDocs, even if I added a link to the 5.4.2 JavaDoc in the search engine sites list. We should just host a copy of the javadoc ... ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz%40guiamac.com This email sent to ar...@guiamac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/jlmiller%40kahalawai.com This email sent to jlmil...@kahalawai.com Johnny Miller Kahalawai Media Corp http://www.kahalawai.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/mschrag%40mdimension.com This email sent to msch...@mdimension.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
On 03/02/2010, at 8:53 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good thing. Trust me on that. yes. definitely. do not copy it. whatever you do. that is all. cough. You mean like don't archive them? http://web.archive.org/web/19970412194901/www.next.com/WebObjects/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://webobjects.com ... :) with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
I reckon it is a touchy issue. The legal folks might make allowances for things like archive.org. I would not want this on any server that I was responsible for unless I had written permission. I'd be happy to use it from your sever if you want to host it. ;-) Yours in paranoia, Chuck On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 03/02/2010, at 8:53 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Isn't copying Apple's, er, copyrighted material a bad idea? It seems like the sort of thing to piss them off. Pissed off lawyers... never a good thing. Trust me on that. yes. definitely. do not copy it. whatever you do. that is all. cough. You mean like don't archive them? http://web.archive.org/web/19970412194901/www.next.com/WebObjects/ http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://webobjects.com ... :) with regards, -- Lachlan Deck -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Nice Job! With Kind Regards, Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer, WEBAPPZ® Systems, Inc. On 2010-02-01, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.com This email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would be harmless without the contributors to Wonder, the mailing list, ... But today is the Pascal day ;-) Philippe PS: Aline, our graphic designer works closely with Pascal so special thanks to her from me. On 1 févr. 2010, at 13:35, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier%40mac.com This email sent to prab...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Bravo to both of them. This has been a big improvement to the site. Thank you! On Feb 1, 2010, at 2:40 PM, Philippe Rabier wrote: Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would be harmless without the contributors to Wonder, the mailing list, ... But today is the Pascal day ;-) Philippe PS: Aline, our graphic designer works closely with Pascal so special thanks to her from me. On 1 févr. 2010, at 13:35, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier%40mac.com This email sent to prab...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Wow - Great site! I never knew there existed all those videos. Very timely as I learn wonder and ajax. Thanks On Feb 1, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/james%40jimijon.com This email sent to ja...@jimijon.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Those videos were there for a long time, but only in the podcasts feed. The plan is to allow people to upload podcasts (or at least the URL to a podcast) themselves so that people don't have to wait after me :-) Wow - Great site! I never knew there existed all those videos. Very timely as I learn wonder and ajax. Thanks On Feb 1, 2010, at 6:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
It is really great to see the community support. Well done, everyone! David On 1-Feb-10, at 2:40 PM, Philippe Rabier wrote: Merci Pascal. But I want to add: a big round of applause for Pascal who makes a tremendous job for the WOCommunity. Everybody knows that the community would be harmless without the contributors to Wonder, the mailing list, ... But today is the Pascal day ;-) Philippe PS: Aline, our graphic designer works closely with Pascal so special thanks to her from me. On 1 févr. 2010, at 13:35, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/prabier% 40mac.com This email sent to prab...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx %40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
On 02/02/2010, at 11:43 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... Yep. (+1 for Guido to rewrite it ;-) with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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I would, but ... I'm not a native english speaker and it shows. It shows quite often especially when I write something. I'll come up with something and will send it to a group for discussion, though. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 02/02/2010, at 11:43 AM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... Yep. (+1 for Guido to rewrite it ;-) with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... You are the third one who said that :-) Now that I'm on medicine and my brain is wreck, I'm more positive and I created a wiki page where people can put their ideas and comments about that page. http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Why+WebObjects cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java for its best features : major code libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and portability. Java on the Web, Done Right! Enjoy working in a clean and elegantly designed set of coherent, consistent frameworks. Delight in spending your time implementing features instead of fussing with infrastructure. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. There is no need to hand edit XML and use dependancy injection to get the pieces to co- operate. Of course, WebObjects has full access to the universe of Java libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and the portability Java developers depend on. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say Chunk, please take a look ;-) Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java for its best features : major code libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and portability. Java on the Web, Done Right! Enjoy working in a clean and elegantly designed set of coherent, consistent frameworks. Delight in spending your time implementing features instead of fussing with infrastructure. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. There is no need to hand edit XML and use dependancy injection to get the pieces to co-operate. Of course, WebObjects has full access to the universe of Java libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and the portability Java developers depend on. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 02/02/2010, at 12:03 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say Chunk, please take a look ;-) +1 (and for using quoted prose such as, So says Chunk :) lol Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug cool. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular development environment one happens to be coming from. If comparisons with other tools (Rails, J2EE, PHP) must be made they can be presented separately and it would be good to write them in the vein of “everything you can do I can do (just as well or) better”. If there is any interest I can try to find time to put something together later this week (this weekend is probably more realistic timeframe). Regards, Haris Pobric Appwerks, LLC Visit us online at http://www.appwerks.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Guido Neitzer guido.neit...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say Chunk, please take a look ;-) Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java fo r its best features : major code libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta proj ects, etc.) and portability. Java on the Web, Done Right! Enjoy working in a clean and elegantly designed set of coherent, consistent frameworks. Delight in spending your time implementing features instead of fussing with infrastructure. You don’t have t o deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. There is n o need to hand edit XML and use dependancy injection to get the pi eces to co-operate. Of course, WebObjects has full access to the universe of Java libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and the portability Java developers depend on. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hpobric %40mac.com This email sent to hpob...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 02/02/2010, at 12:27 PM, Haris Pobric wrote: As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular development environment one happens to be coming from. If comparisons with other tools (Rails, J2EE, PHP) must be made they can be presented separately and it would be good to write them in the vein of “everything you can do I can do (just as well or) better”. Really, I'd suggest if other technologies are to be mentioned they are mentioned not in that way either - but simply to allow people who've come from that background to understand a particular concept. e.g., this is similar to Rails migrations framework blah blah... with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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On 1-Feb-10, at 4:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... You are the third one who said that :-) Now that I'm on medicine and my brain is wreck, I'm more positive and I created a wiki page where people can put their ideas and comments about that page. http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Why+WebObjects I've started tossing up some ideas. Even Chuck's ;-) There's no question that a native English speaker should take responsibility for the final edit. I'll be happy to do it if no-one has any objections. Those that are uncomfortable putting their ideas up on the wiki, or don't have an account, or whatever, please post here and we'll make sure your ideas end up on the wiki for consideration too. David cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert% 40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx %40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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Le 10-02-01 à 20:27, Haris Pobric a écrit : As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular development environment one happens to be coming from. If comparisons with other tools (Rails, J2EE, PHP) must be made they can be presented separately and it would be good to write them in the vein of “everything you can do I can do (just as well or) better”. Oh yes, this is something I wanted for years... But sadly, every time someone ask for this, nobody replies. We have a comparaison of WO versus RoR made by Mike in the list a couple of months ago, and an old comparaison of .Net versus WO in the wiki. I even thinked of giving a rebate for a WOWODC ticket to anyone who can come up with a fair comparaison of WO vs others. If there is any interest I can try to find time to put something together later this week (this weekend is probably more realistic timeframe). You will make a happy guy down here if you can come up with something :-) Regards, Haris Pobric Appwerks, LLC Visit us online at http://www.appwerks.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Guido Neitzer guido.neit...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say Chunk, please take a look ;-) Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java for its best features : major code libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and portability. Java on the Web, Done Right! Enjoy working in a clean and elegantly designed set of coherent, consistent frameworks. Delight in spending your time implementing features instead of fussing with infrastructure. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. There is no need to hand edit XML and use dependancy injection to get the pieces to co-operate. Of course, WebObjects has full access to the universe of Java libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and the portability Java developers depend on. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr ). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hpobric%40mac.com This email sent to hpob...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not
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On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:53 PM, David Holt wrote: On 1-Feb-10, at 4:58 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: Le 10-02-01 à 19:43, Guido Neitzer a écrit : The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... You are the third one who said that :-) Now that I'm on medicine and my brain is wreck, I'm more positive and I created a wiki page where people can put their ideas and comments about that page. http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOCOM/Why+WebObjects I've started tossing up some ideas. Even Chuck's ;-) I hate it when I toss chunks. There's no question that a native English speaker should take responsibility for the final edit. I'll be happy to do it if no-one has any objections. Those that are uncomfortable putting their ideas up on the wiki, or don't have an account, or whatever, please post here and we'll make sure your ideas end up on the wiki for consideration too. David cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/programmingosx%40mac.com This email sent to programming...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
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BTW, Gordon Belray (a fellow Canuck) submitted a cool idea for the front page : http://www.fineart.utoronto.ca/wo/ The gears would be links to internal and external pages, so it would be a startup page for everyone. I'm also looking at adding a search box on the Web site, that search box will search an index of the content from the site, the wiki, Apple's documentation (PDFs and JavaDocs), all open source projects (Wonders, Houdah, LEWOStuff), etc. I'm a bit tired of Google who puts WO 3.5 docs on top of WO 5.4 when I do a search, so the search index on wocommunity.org would only index current documentation. Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert%40macti.ca This email sent to prob...@macti.ca ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
On Feb 1, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Haris Pobric wrote: As someone who had to “fight”, often losing, battles for the use of WO in actual projects I would recommend rewriting this page by stating why WO is a great choice on its own (i.e. why it rocks as technology) regardless of which particular development environment one happens to be coming from. If comparisons with other tools (Rails, J2EE, PHP) must be made they can be presented separately and it would be good to write them in the vein of “everything you can do I can do (just as well or) better”. If there is any interest I can try to find time to put something together later this week (this weekend is probably more realistic timeframe). Please do! Chuck Regards, Haris Pobric Appwerks, LLC Visit us online at http://www.appwerks.com Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Guido Neitzer guido.neit...@gmail.com wrote: Oh, my ... That's why my first idea was to say Chunk, please take a look ;-) Seriously, I can invest some time tonight, take a closer look from a different angle and we can discuss that. cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:58 PM, Chuck Hill wrote: It think the facts are good, but you are right: from a sales point of view it looks at it from the wrong direction. As a quick example, But it’s in Java! Yes, it’s Java, but it’s not J2EE. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. WebObjects uses Java for its best features : major code libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and portability. Java on the Web, Done Right! Enjoy working in a clean and elegantly designed set of coherent, consistent frameworks. Delight in spending your time implementing features instead of fussing with infrastructure. You don’t have to deal with EJB, J2EE containers, Struts and the like. There is no need to hand edit XML and use dependancy injection to get the pieces to co-operate. Of course, WebObjects has full access to the universe of Java libraries (JavaMail, Jakarta projects, etc.) and the portability Java developers depend on. On Feb 1, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote: The design is pretty nice! I like it. But you still couldn't get rid of that defensive slogan on the Why WO? page. It should say Because it rocks!. Not mention any other stuff ... This whole page is so negative. I'd say that needs some serious rewrite ... cug On 1. Feb, 2010, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Hello everyone, wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr ). Everything is much cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page. More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and organization profiles, and WO projects listing. Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/guido.neitzer%40gmail.com This email sent to guido.neit...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/hpobric%40mac.com This email sent to hpob...@mac.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/chill%40global-village.net This email sent to ch...@global-village.net -- Chuck Hill Senior Consultant / VP Development Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific problems. http://www.global-village.net/products/practical_webobjects ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update
Re: New look for wocommunity.org
Does anyone knows a good index bot in Java (last time I used a bot, it was good old ht://dig)? I'm playing with Lucence Nutch but if somebody have a better alternative, I'm all ears. just use google site search ... i think it might be free if you allow ads? ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
