Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 47, Issue 38
Alaka,I completely agree with your assessment.It is a bapancing act here between freedom of expression,tolerance, trading of ideas,etc. This forum is a kind of street,bus,taxi (people boarding and leaving) or community where you find anything-some things you take,others you ignore,or you do anything you want to do with what you find and I respect and accept whatever anybody wants to do as long as it is not against the law or illegal.If anybody feels he/she doesn't agree with another then they have to offer an alternative argument with their viewpoints.Others might chose not to express themselves and that is all fine and part of society. I wouldn't care at all if somebody called me a dog because all I'll say is I am not a dog and everybody can see I am not a dog )). The person making the dog statement would obviously be out of order on the part of the person saying it and ignored by me. Anguyo ERAU --- On Mon, 7/23/12, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net westnilenet-requ...@kym.net wrote: From: westnilenet-requ...@kym.net westnilenet-requ...@kym.net Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 47, Issue 38 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 2:37 PM Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Fw: De-registration (Caleb Alaka) 2. Re: Fw: De-registration (Robert Ejiku) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:16:30 +0300 From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Message-ID: 82f8f11a-e914-4e5d-a4ac-6f19c3099...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual pe rsons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play Vagina Monologues was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa atibu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all, Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the posting tagged ?Botanical garden?? has caused. I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake. Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue discussing development as usual. Kefa --- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: leku joel
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Having read all that has been said about these botanical beach pictures, allow me to still add my voice here once again. As Caled and Ejiku have rightly said, Kefa did something good to expose how our dear society has rotten in moral habits. Personally I could not imagine such things can happen. I have sisters, daughters and friends who I directly take care of and the few I have shared this picture have expressed shock and promise to check on how and with whom they move out with. To me it really was a spot on and for sure for someone to believe that such things are out of order and yet we have children and relatives and friends in schools, I think we shall miss the point claiming not to know such and yet it is the true reason our society and culture is decaying. Kefa, take heart sometimes the truth hurts but has to be taken so. Parents and guardians we need not to think sex education is abomination and yet most of our children are left at the mercy of the peers in boarding schools and higher institutions of learning, we have not talked about HIV/AIDS here but how many youths are broken-hearted just to find they are HIV positive, die from abortion, are dumped after having been selfishly misused and having such wounds for the rest of their lives, clear tuition money in the name of pleasing a friend and are crying tears taking antiretroviral medications after such things only once when visiting a beach. Assuming they had such a talk with a parent or guardian, could they be in such situations? I believe we have single mothers increasing and one fact may be this among many if one is not aware of selfish intentions of their friends We either take it or leave it but there is a lot we need to do. Better accept there is a problem and fight to overcome it than run away but potspond the whole thing... These are my humble thoughts belonging to me only Eric From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Monday, 23 July 2012, 21:16 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play Vagina Monologues was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa atibu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all, Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused. I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake. Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue discussing development as usual. Kefa --- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out for the next. We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the evening, the elders present and all the community members who turned up. Please come again. Grateful for all those who supported in spirit. Thanks Christine ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Now some humor to crown this discussion, Let's learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you reach conclusions or share. Some of the questions that come to mind include; 1. What was the motive of the photographer? 2. Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place etc 3. Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or parents? 4. Many many more queries . Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it. I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I do not make love in public places .) but with todays media it is difficult to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog: okuti.blogspot.com Anyway Men Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes Richard From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Robert Ejiku Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play Vagina Monologues was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa atibu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all, Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the posting tagged Botanical garden. has caused. I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They
[WestNileNet] Mama Kezia Iria passed on this morning
Dear all We have, on a sad note, heard about the passing on of Mama Kezia Iria. To all of you who come from Mvara and got baptised there, you will probably remember Kezia as a devouted mother and the kind of a catechist who ensured that all baptism candidates learnt all the required lessons and passed the assessment tests before being presented for baptism. My deepest condolences go to his children Aluonzi Moses (0772 905093) who works with NWSC in Soroti, Erima Jimmy 0772888119, Betty, Rachael, Opiru. May her soul rest in eternal peace. Acidri David___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Thanks Richard for this comment and the questions you have raised. I really dont think that nobody in this forum is still unaware of these things happening but we are saying, whatever motive this person had, it does not address any of the problems, instead it is a toxic communication, it causes no alarm for anybody in this forum in my view. If we need to sensitize our youth, this kind of packaging is very toxic instead. I would go by Ejiku's comment that it was a mistake, we should accept this was a mistake and should not be done again in this forum instead of defending using lame excuses. As leaders we should stand for something, not fall for everything. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: Now some humor to crown this discussion, ** ** Let’s learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you reach conclusions or share… ** ** Some of the questions that come to mind include; ** ** **1. **What was the motive of the photographer? **2. **Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place etc **3. **Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or parents? **4. **Many many more queries … ** ** Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it. ** ** I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I do not make love in public places …) but with todays media it is difficult to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog: okuti.blogspot.com ** ** Anyway Men Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes *** * ** ** ** ** Richard ** ** *From:* westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] *On Behalf Of *Robert Ejiku *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration ** ** Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, ** ** This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play Vagina Monologues
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
*I think the de-registration is beyond Kefa's posting! But please lets not tag members choice/decision to de-register because of Kefa's posting their decisions are personal and lets respect that.* * * *Kefa i may not agree with the posting but it should not dishearten you and pressure you into de registering from this forum. As i understood it, this forum is for everyone to express their views good or bad we should build each other not PHD! * * Winfred Adukule* On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Patrick Anguti pangu...@gmail.com wrote: Dear members, I really think we sometimes take some issues personal. I don't see any problem with the post. It was a good course that it was posted. I think u can see what people do out there knowing very well that they are safe. All of u blaming Kefa are wrong. Who of u has never had sex??? On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM, leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com wrote: Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this forum -- *From:* harriet alioru hartie...@yahoo.com *To:* westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM *Subject:* [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Please deregister me from this too. Thank you --- On *Mon, 9/12/11, Pamela Paparu pamela.obe...@hotmail.com* wrote: From: Pamela Paparu pamela.obe...@hotmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration To: Westnile Foundation westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM Dear Kiggundu, Please kindly de-register me. Regards. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.nethttp://us.mc1260.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -- Patrick Anguti Forest Officer Uganda Electricity Distribution Company Limited P O Box 7390, kampala Tel: +256-312-330300 Fax: +256-414-255600 Mob: +256-772-929633 ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Christine, You are our iron Lady and I am happy for you its either take them on or keep quiet to make a difference. I am also happy you are not trying to deregister. Thank you and all the best. On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out for the next. We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the evening, the elders present and all the community members who turned up. Please come again. Grateful for all those who supported in spirit. Thanks Christine ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Christine, we can now let go of this as Kefa promptly apologized. We make his apology sound unacceptable by continuing with these arguments.. Good day my sister.. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks Richard for this comment and the questions you have raised. I really dont think that nobody in this forum is still unaware of these things happening but we are saying, whatever motive this person had, it does not address any of the problems, instead it is a toxic communication, it causes no alarm for anybody in this forum in my view. If we need to sensitize our youth, this kind of packaging is very toxic instead. I would go by Ejiku's comment that it was a mistake, we should accept this was a mistake and should not be done again in this forum instead of defending using lame excuses. As leaders we should stand for something, not fall for everything. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: Now some humor to crown this discussion, ** ** Let’s learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you reach conclusions or share… ** ** Some of the questions that come to mind include; ** ** **1. **What was the motive of the photographer? **2. **Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place etc **3. **Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or parents? **4. **Many many more queries … ** ** Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it. ** ** I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I do not make love in public places …) but with todays media it is difficult to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog: okuti.blogspot.com ** ** Anyway Men Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes ** ** ** ** ** ** Richard ** ** *From:* westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] *On Behalf Of *Robert Ejiku *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration ** ** Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, ** ** This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out for the next. We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the evening, the elders present and all the community members who turned up. Please come again. Grateful for all those who supported in spirit. Thanks Christine ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Hi Kefa, I have read your response. You did your part just to inform. Problem was, any person could have played all that using the latest computer software. BUT truth is, those things are happening. I was also interested to know the venue for such reckles life style. I thought it ws in Arua, because of the familiar facilities a i have seen at some location here in West Nile. At one time i raised dust in this forum and since then i simply pulled out of commenting on some of the issues raised. BUT i have been making use of some of the suggestions. ACIDRI Chief News Editor Radio Pacis On 7/23/12, atibuni kefa atibu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all, Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused. I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake. Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue discussing development as usual. Kefa --- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this forum From: harriet alioru hartie...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Please deregister me from this too. Thank you --- On Mon, 9/12/11, Pamela Paparu pamela.obe...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Pamela Paparu pamela.obe...@hotmail.com Subject: [WestNileNet] De-registration To: Westnile Foundation westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, September 12, 2011, 7:26 AM Dear Kiggundu, Please kindly de-register me. Regards. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Dear Members, Kefa has apologized to who ever the posting might have inconvenienced. It's clear that his posting was in good faith though at times there are unexpected outcomes of things we do in our daily lives. If a member is not happy, positive criticism with better alternatives may be the way to go. Thanks Caleb for pointing out pertinent issues about the posting. It is a use or ignore information. Mutto Robert From: Susan Elizabeth Atim Afema at...@mtn.co.ug To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration h From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Robert Ejiku Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender should therefore cry foul as if the posting targeted only the female gender. When the play Vagina Monologues was banned by Government was it not the highly rated female gender oriented NGO's and Civil societies led by highly qualified women who cried foul. Kefa, you exposed rot at beaches, you should not have apologized after all you put a rider akin to movies were some are rated as VS (violent and sex ..) you haven't insulted the Pope, the ArchBishop of Canterbury or the Supreme Mufti. You have exposed moral decadence and those who want to pretend that it is the first time they have seen such should as Jesus said be the first to hurl a stone on you. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 20:02, atibuni kefa atibu...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear all, Accept my sincere apologies for the terrible misnomer. My intent was not to split this nice electronic meeting table. I deeply regret the injury the posting tagged “Botanical garden…” has caused. I thought I was only sending an alert to the huge West Nile community in Entebbe where those pictures were taken. They were not computer tricks as insinuated by some colleagues. I did make an innocent mistake. Dear Kiggs Kindly deregister me from the List serve so that folks can continue discussing development as usual. Kefa --- On Mon, 7/23/12, leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com wrote: From: leku joel lekuj...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 5:43 AM Members are getting de-registered,the nudity was regrettable on this forum From:harriet alioru hartie...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:07 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Dear Robert thanks for the comment, deregistration is something I will not ask for from this forum, unless it is done forcely, I promised that to myself. By the way we need to touch base. Caleb I like the way you have argued it out, I just wanted to be sure that the meaning is for a purpose so that it is not taken for granted. So dont play with big Auntie, you risk slaughtering a big cow for the clan(for laughs). This kind of straight talk I find it helpful instead of keeping things under the carpet, as intellectuals I think we need to exhibit certain level of maturity, arguments for a purpose and we move forward. Now we can plan for our weekend and enjoy our beers together Cheers to all of you Christine . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Ndungu, I think this lady has back blood for you, just that. At her level, she should have known that you don't mean she is under 18. Take it easy and take care. Ismail - From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 13:00 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out for the next. We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the evening, the elders present and all the community members who turned up. Please come again. Grateful for all those who supported in spirit. Thanks Christine ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list
Re: [WestNileNet] WestNileNet Digest, Vol 47, Issue 38
Information is good but just take an example HIV is transmitted through sex but you have never seen any poster with people having sex live to demonstrate how HIV is transmitted. many of us are parents, we have never put blue move to watch by everybody to demonstrate how bad these things can be. We can sound an alarm by putting that message in another way. Much as this is a street bus, let us have some kind of respect and sensitivity to the issues, otherwise red paper can also get content or our discussion here and expose all of us in relation to what we are discussing, I gues everybody will start desociating themselves from the pono because we have some integrity to protect. I think that is what members are trying to say in many words. Apology has been sent and I like that spirit, let us welcome it and move forward. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:03 AM, anguyo milton angu...@yahoo.com wrote: Alaka,I completely agree with your assessment.It is a bapancing act here between freedom of expression,tolerance, trading of ideas,etc. This forum is a kind of street,bus,taxi (people boarding and leaving) or community where you find anything-some things you take,others you ignore,or you do anything you want to do with what you find and I respect and accept whatever anybody wants to do as long as it is not against the law or illegal.If anybody feels he/she doesn't agree with another then they have to offer an alternative argument with their viewpoints.Others might chose not to express themselves and that is all fine and part of society. I wouldn't care at all if somebody called me a dog because all I'll say is I am not a dog and everybody can see I am not a dog )). The person making the dog statement would obviously be out of order on the part of the person saying it and ignored by me. Anguyo ERAU --- On *Mon, 7/23/12, westnilenet-requ...@kym.net westnilenet-requ...@kym.net* wrote: From: westnilenet-requ...@kym.net westnilenet-requ...@kym.net Subject: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 47, Issue 38 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, July 23, 2012, 2:37 PM Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.nethttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.nethttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.nethttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Fw: De-registration (Caleb Alaka) 2. Re: Fw: De-registration (Robert Ejiku) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:16:30 +0300 From: Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=calebal...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.nethttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=westnilenet@kym.net Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Message-ID: 82f8f11a-e914-4e5d-a4ac-6f19c3099...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc1626.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=82f8f11a-e914-4e5d-a4ac-6f19c3099...@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual pe rsons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional Religion who knew that several African communities practiced the same say, Historians will tell u some thing else. Yes we have mothers, sisters, daughters aunties. But who said the posting at Botanical gardens was about the female gender alone, ev It was about irresponsible men and Women. No gender
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Kimbelembele!!! Oh my God, that men dont do it but here!!! Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:24 PM, banduga ismail bani...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Ndungu, I think this lady has back blood for you, just that. At her level, she should have known that you don't mean she is under 18. Take it easy and take care. Ismail - -- *From:* Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com *To:* A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 July 2012, 13:00 *Subject:* Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai regained its name, it was a shock in Amazon pub to see the Joyous westnilers. The excitement was beyond. Everybody around asked this to continue. Therefore due to public demand, this is going to be a monthly event on every first Friday of the Month. Watch out for the next. We thank everybody who contributed to this in one way or another, specifically we want to thank the Sceicne cafe Arua team who made it for the meeting all the way from Arua and the Kampala team who connceted with the community in the evening, the elders present and all the community members who turned up. Please come again. Grateful for all those who supported in spirit. Thanks Christine ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The
[WestNileNet] De-register me
Dear Kigs, I am so frustrated by my face book account. I have over ten thousand friends, can you call eeehh this small boy who begun face book to de- register me from face book. Oh I forgot face book has an account. Ok. Can you close my account. Just joking... I intend to buy for you, Ejiku and Gordon a crate of beer this Friday at West Nile night. Ensure that you have drivers who can take you home, lest I will call police to inform them I bought booze for you and you decided to drive... We w. These discussions were tense but all of us winners. Good afternoon. Sent from my iPhone ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
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Thank you very much RobertKefa too, but please do not de-register because of this. Awadifo A From: Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Christine, we can now let go of this as Kefa promptly apologized. We make his apology sound unacceptable by continuing with these arguments.. Good day my sister.. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Richard for this comment and the questions you have raised. I really dont think that nobody in this forum is still unaware of these things happening but we are saying, whatever motive this person had, it does not address any of the problems, instead it is a toxic communication, it causes no alarm for anybody in this forum in my view. If we need to sensitize our youth, this kind of packaging is very toxic instead. I would go by Ejiku's comment that it was a mistake, we should accept this was a mistake and should not be done again in this forum instead of defending using lame excuses. As leaders we should stand for something, not fall for everything. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: Now some humor to crown this discussion, Let’s learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you reach conclusions or share… Some of the questions that come to mind include; 1. What was the motive of the photographer? 2. Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place etc 3. Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or parents? 4. Many many more queries … Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it. I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I do not make love in public places …) but with todays media it is difficult to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog: okuti.blogspot.com Anyway Men Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes Richard From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Robert Ejiku Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such forum. To seek your de-registration is to acknowledge that you are the problem. My humble opinion is that, we should inculcate the culture of tolerance of divergent views. This fora is a market place were ideas are traded. Not every one may buy the others idea and there is no rule of the thumb or universal interpretation for determining the morality of any posting. It is noteworthy that the starting point to the understanding any posting or document is that it must be read in its entirety and contextualise the same. What will those who are posturing and pontificating as moral crusaders do when a bisexual person wants his/her voice to be heard on this forum, shall we say that their we're no bisexual persons in the bible(what of Lots Story), shall we say that it's against African culture, (what will the scholars of African traditional
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Christine, Thats it. I will be abit free from next week as I conclude our hectic AGM this weekend. Thank you. Robert On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Robert thanks for the comment, deregistration is something I will not ask for from this forum, unless it is done forcely, I promised that to myself. By the way we need to touch base. Caleb I like the way you have argued it out, I just wanted to be sure that the meaning is for a purpose so that it is not taken for granted. So dont play with big Auntie, you risk slaughtering a big cow for the clan(for laughs). This kind of straight talk I find it helpful instead of keeping things under the carpet, as intellectuals I think we need to exhibit certain level of maturity, arguments for a purpose and we move forward. Now we can plan for our weekend and enjoy our beers together Cheers to all of you Christine . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence decision making. He wants us to start with the Council in Entebbe Municipality, we shall see how this proceeds. Secondly the evening also went very well, Kaikai
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Fine, I will be away from tomorrow but next week I am around. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, Thats it. I will be abit free from next week as I conclude our hectic AGM this weekend. Thank you. Robert On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Robert thanks for the comment, deregistration is something I will not ask for from this forum, unless it is done forcely, I promised that to myself. By the way we need to touch base. Caleb I like the way you have argued it out, I just wanted to be sure that the meaning is for a purpose so that it is not taken for granted. So dont play with big Auntie, you risk slaughtering a big cow for the clan(for laughs). This kind of straight talk I find it helpful instead of keeping things under the carpet, as intellectuals I think we need to exhibit certain level of maturity, arguments for a purpose and we move forward. Now we can plan for our weekend and enjoy our beers together Cheers to all of you Christine . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a sight of it. We had a world bank consultant who gave us good ideas, HIV technical adviser from MONUSCO who added on and the MP of Entebbe among others, who requested science cafe to create awareness among the leaders who are equally uninformed to influence
Re: [WestNileNet] De-register me
Caleb, Ask Golola to tear off your page from the FB. Im told he is real when it comes to that not kick boxing. Trust me, I have my appetite sharpened. Robert On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear Kigs, I am so frustrated by my face book account. I have over ten thousand friends, can you call eeehh this small boy who begun face book to de- register me from face book. Oh I forgot face book has an account. Ok. Can you close my account. Just joking... I intend to buy for you, Ejiku and Gordon a crate of beer this Friday at West Nile night. Ensure that you have drivers who can take you home, lest I will call police to inform them I bought booze for you and you decided to drive... We w. These discussions were tense but all of us winners. Good afternoon. Sent from my iPhone ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Christine, I missed the Entebbe one as that was set i the perfect environment for a weekend get away. Lets have such an arrangement again in the future. Good day. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Fine, I will be away from tomorrow but next week I am around. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Christine, Thats it. I will be abit free from next week as I conclude our hectic AGM this weekend. Thank you. Robert On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Robert thanks for the comment, deregistration is something I will not ask for from this forum, unless it is done forcely, I promised that to myself. By the way we need to touch base. Caleb I like the way you have argued it out, I just wanted to be sure that the meaning is for a purpose so that it is not taken for granted. So dont play with big Auntie, you risk slaughtering a big cow for the clan(for laughs). This kind of straight talk I find it helpful instead of keeping things under the carpet, as intellectuals I think we need to exhibit certain level of maturity, arguments for a purpose and we move forward. Now we can plan for our weekend and enjoy our beers together Cheers to all of you Christine . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, This is to let you know that we had a very successful science cafe events. First the official meeting went on very well and for those who watched 10pm UBC news on Saturday night, should have caught a
Re: [WestNileNet] successful science cafe events
Will do, I know time is always a big challenge for most of us but one day we will get the opportunity. Best regards Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com wrote: Christine, I missed the Entebbe one as that was set i the perfect environment for a weekend get away. Lets have such an arrangement again in the future. Good day. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Fine, I will be away from tomorrow but next week I am around. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Christine, Thats it. I will be abit free from next week as I conclude our hectic AGM this weekend. Thank you. Robert On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Robert thanks for the comment, deregistration is something I will not ask for from this forum, unless it is done forcely, I promised that to myself. By the way we need to touch base. Caleb I like the way you have argued it out, I just wanted to be sure that the meaning is for a purpose so that it is not taken for granted. So dont play with big Auntie, you risk slaughtering a big cow for the clan(for laughs). This kind of straight talk I find it helpful instead of keeping things under the carpet, as intellectuals I think we need to exhibit certain level of maturity, arguments for a purpose and we move forward. Now we can plan for our weekend and enjoy our beers together Cheers to all of you Christine . On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.comwrote: Caleb, Good to know we can after all this writing wind it down with the famous Nite. We better get ready for that now. Only 3 days to go. We still have the accumulated anger and hunger from the last one which flopped. Some of us want to pay twice so that we can dance our missed dance. Can we arrange for the dance to continue to 2 p.m. the next day to pay for our missed opportunity? Hahahahaaa, ife eyini alu alu?! Gudo's day disco concept in Arua I guess Thank you and all the best. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Christine, I like that. When one is excited about the deeds of another, the English accept the usage of 'girl or boy for instance upon the mission that saw the elimination of Osama Bin Laden, the US President referred the team dubbed as the seal unit as the boys. Do you imagine that boys under 18 could have been used by the US to handle such a sensitive mission? When we feel lovey dovey, we call our partners babes, are they babies? At times ladies call their husband daddy and men call their wives mummy are they in the circumstance mummies or daddies? I say no. Nouns are used depending on a specific context. Carol Andama one of the ladies I have high respects for ( by the way her and you Christine are my aunties. One from my dads side and the other 'you' from my mums side) while thanking me called me a boy. Any way, we have West Nile night at Club Lebourgule what ever the name means this Friday . Wish u a good week Sent from my iPhone On Jul 24, 2012, at 9:49, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Caleb thanks for your comments, unfornately I am not a girl, just to inform you. you have rightly said nobody is below 18 in this forum, that means nobody is young here, to do something wrong and then hide under the disguise that somebody is young in this forum and therefore should be handled like an egg is very regretable. My brother, picking on me when a number of people are complaining and deregistering themselves due to this email is amusing but not surprising, hoping the objective has been achieved. This person has come from a family and community which has morals, he should know how to communicate some of these sensitive issues to a public like this. If he is young as you have said, I am not sure the context of the young, he will learn in a hard way in this forum. The fact that you have particularly chosen to defend this topic as the president of West Nile Foundation is a point to note. I suggest that you take a lead in organizing the cafe you have suggested since you are the president of West Nile community, we shall do our part of attending. Christine On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.comwrote: Keep up girl. You make us proud. But kindly tone down on the unguided young ones who have just graduated to this fora and appreciate that not all humans can sustain the high level debate on this fora. Bashing them without parting an eye lid is likely to make them freeze and be unable to cope up. Otherwise, good work. Can you organize one science cafe on a topic of saving for the many Kampala young Westnilers? Cheers Sent from my iPhone On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:03, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote:
[WestNileNet] Communication ethos verses tolerance
It is said that one of the biggest challenges with communication lies in perception by the receiver. Personally, i have painstakingly learnt over time to detach emotions when receiving info. I am left wondering how west nile as a region will progress given our levels of tolerance among the elite. BTW, tolerating does not tantamount to condoning. May the soul of H.E. John Atta Mills rest in peace. I trust the maturity of Ghanaians to sail thru this period. Can Uganda emulate when the time comes? Patrick Onen Ezaga Cell: +256-77-2511472 +256-70-1511947 God never makes mistakes ... you are therefore not a mistake” From: anthony ajiku aaj...@yahoo.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Thank you very much RobertKefa too, but please do not de-register because of this. Awadifo A From: Robert Ejiku ejikurob...@gmail.com To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Christine, we can now let go of this as Kefa promptly apologized. We make his apology sound unacceptable by continuing with these arguments.. Good day my sister.. Ejiku On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Christine Munduru cmund...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Richard for this comment and the questions you have raised. I really dont think that nobody in this forum is still unaware of these things happening but we are saying, whatever motive this person had, it does not address any of the problems, instead it is a toxic communication, it causes no alarm for anybody in this forum in my view. If we need to sensitize our youth, this kind of packaging is very toxic instead. I would go by Ejiku's comment that it was a mistake, we should accept this was a mistake and should not be done again in this forum instead of defending using lame excuses. As leaders we should stand for something, not fall for everything. Christine On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Okuti Richard ok...@asili.co.ug wrote: Now some humor to crown this discussion, Let’s learn and let go personally I feel differently about the postings especially after being one of the first people to caution the person who posted. There has been increased advancement in media and technology that everything you see, you must be careful to study and understand before you reach conclusions or share… Some of the questions that come to mind include; 1. What was the motive of the photographer? 2. Are these genuine original pictures? Were they taken in a public place etc 3. Would this then be the best way to package a warning to the minors or parents? 4. Many many more queries … Personally I found them irrelevant for our group and indeed not in bad faith, but because they were very mixed what if adults in love may have thought they were private in some cases (Caught!)? And the story goes on and on. Some of them were actually disgusting and poor, if they were meant for warning or entertainment which ever way one looks at it. I love romance on the beach, in gardens and many other places (of course I do not make love in public places …) but with todays media it is difficult to do this one has to watch out for spying information hangry hombres J. I actually even write about romance eg read twisted spirit on my blog: okuti.blogspot.com Anyway Men Women of the forum life is a journey lets relax sometimes Richard From:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Robert Ejiku Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 9:37 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Fw: De-registration Thanks Caleb, Interestingly if Kefa was just seeing this for the first time, these pictures have been beamed to the world before about two years ago supposedly taken from a park in Kisumu. Kamunye and the onion have these pictures on the front pages of their publications. Everytime you stop to buy papers these are the first things we see. This is an adult forum and I dont think it was really intended to cause its propagation but to demonstrate what our society has become. The church theft by the same argument could be naively interpreted as a war against our good christians, depicting them as thieves. Why believe in the church. I think it really tells has how far we have come or are prepared to go. My humble opinion. Ejiku On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Caleb Alaka calebal...@yahoo.com wrote: Kefa, This forum is not owned by any person. It is owned by you, me, and the rest. Having appropriately, conveyed your apologies, why have you decided to be de-registered. By the way, some person on the forum applauded your posting. I think I too did the same. We learn a lot from such
