RE: [WestNileNet] First Message
Thanks Kiggs, for the clarifications. Ejiku you are being checked in my mail my mail box as good Thomas. Acidri James, as far as i am concerned: Makorokoto means "i am korokoto" = "i am aggregates". As you know aggregates are mainly used in concrete and asphalt works because they are hard (normally the best is from crushing granite stone) and improve the capacity to support loads. So are you telling us that you have learnt to become korokoto from your Shona friend Mugabe. Robert Obetia Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 07:50:25 +From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [WestNileNet] First MessageTo: westnilenet@kym.net Kiggs ( Ayiko) and Caleb, Congragulations or Makorokoto in Shona. This is a very good initiative. I delayed to reply due to a number of reasons. I am still recovering from the shock of my stolen, hard earned money by the emerging capitalists from the Kigezi region. Besides we are still engaged in the formulation of the Government of national unity. It good to learn afew skills from elderly statesmen like Mbeki and Mzee Mugabi. Please dont mistake me for high jacking the website to discuss politics. Any way lets face it, dont you guys think its time to have more serious politicians than teh current breed in WestNile. I am a politician and will always look at the political dimensions of issues other than talk about science in isolation. Engineer Obetia- thanks for the good guidance- I salute you. As for me the commitment is total. Just a word of caution, I hope the defunct Arua Community Association (ACA) will not high jack this noble cause. Bravo- The struggle continues. Cheers guys James--- On Thu, 18/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] First MessageTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thursday, 18 September, 2008, 8:05 AM This is wonderful, who said that we cannot make a better representation in our region & impact positively? It’s all about positive thinking & creativity. Friends let’s keep our heads up!!! Cheers! Fets… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kiggundu MukasaSent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 5:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] First Message Hi Guys, When a call goes out then you must stand up and be counted So after consulting with my brother Gordon, I have set up a list of all initial member addresses. For any other people to subscribe please send them this link http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or they can send me an email and I shall add them to the list. If you want to post to the list just send an email to WestNileNet@kym.net and everyone will get it. The current maximum message size is 100KB, but if needed that can be raised. Ayiko (sometimes also known as Kiggs :-) ) -- Acta Virum Probant -- Kiggundu Mukasa KYM-NET LTD. Plot 80 Kanjokya Street P.O. Box 24284 Kampala , Uganda Tel: +256 772 972255 +256 414 571779 Fax: +256 312 262122 http://kym.net ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vista&mkt=en-US&form=QBRE___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] The famous stock market
James, Great. That makes me understand how stock exchange markets work. Otherwise seeing how they change on Wall Mart in Television made no sense to me - e.g NASDAQ: 000' -2.500 >>> >>>5 made nearly no sense. Really the kind of stuff we should be trying is what this monkey stockist is doing. Lesson learnt. Best regards Robert Obetia Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 10:31:36 +From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [WestNileNet] The famous stock marketTo: westnilenet@kym.net Obetia ma adri pi, Hope all is well in Monrovia- If you think its easy to get money, just try the Stock Market. Stocks indeed> Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to the> villagers that he would buy monkeys for $ 10. The villagers seeing> that there were many monkeys around,went out to the forest and> started catching them.>> The man bought thousands at $ 10 and as supply started to diminish,> the villagers stopped their effort.> He further announced that he would now buy at$ 20. This renewed the> efforts of the villagers and they started catching monkeys again.>> Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back> to their farms.> The offer rate increased to $ 25 and the supply of monkeys became so> little that it was an effort to even see a monkey, let alone catch it!> The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at $50!>> However, since he had to go to the city on some business,his assistant> would now buy on his behalf.>> In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers.Look at> all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will> sell them to you at $ 35 and when the man returns from the city, you> can sell it to him for $ 50.'> The villagers squeezed up with all their savings and bought all the> monkeys.>> Then they never saw the man nor his assistant, only monkeys> everywhere!!!>> Welcome to the 'Stock' Market>James --- On Fri, 19/9/08, robert obetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: robert obetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] First MessageTo: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, 19 September, 2008, 11:00 AM Kigg 'I am doing a count to the call' The statistics is attached. So far today is day 4 and the full analysis of week 1 will come out in 3.5 days. This is a week's Mock analysis but also a build up for diversionary issues. I am going to move away from populating your mail box page with testing testis only and so i want to employ a spin doctor for that matter. So that i get on to my first desired vector. I need CVs to do that. I will provoke a Marketier and PR to do this. The current indicators are that 4 days will pass without any new entrant from outside the list of 15 emails. Atleast some 3 out of 15 persons with not less than 3 hour access to email services have not submitted. "?". After 7 days the analysis will include both statistical and substance. I am not promising matter here. Ezaga you may not want to be provoked but you used to be a marketier. You and i can start marketing bees to sting Azabo so that he remains in the believe of small things being bigs. Not wasps, i dont want them because they choose to live in the wrong place. Alaka - You may google out Lomo (i think stopped sounding controversial - is a nice guy), Onzivu (Bradford? - decent man decent places), etc. Simple statisitic attached. Robert Obetia From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] First MessageDate: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 08:24:36 +0300 Currently there are the 15 email addresses The same ones caleb originally sent to. You should have gotten a message (just before my first message) from the system (and that message will also be sent to you at the beginning of every month as a reminder. It gives you a password. You can use that password and the link below to view who is on the list. Only members of the list can view the other members of the list. Ayiko On Sep 17, 2008, at 9:07 PM, robert obetia wrote: Thanks. I'm signing this page to say i will keep participating. Let me know if my email reaches all (but who?). Can you allow us see the list of contacts in this email. Robert Obetia From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:47:38 +0300CC: Subject: [WestNileNet] First Message Hi Guys, When a call goes out then you must stand up and be counted So after consulting with my brother Gordon, I have set up a list of all initial member addresses. For any other people to subscribe please send them this link http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or they can send me an email and I shall add them to the list. If you want to post to the list just send an email to WestNileNet@kym.net and everyone will get it. The current maximum
RE: [WestNileNet] West nile net
Ezaga, Thanks for that bit. And after your second part i will proceed. But i liked to listen to that poem titled "WHO DONE IT". Robert Obetia Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:31:23 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] West nile net Gentlemen, (i recognize the dames too), Before we get trapped in our hand-made "net of ideas from west nile" (Westnilenet), there's need to change the game plan entirely and this will involve carefull thinking and commitment or even sacrifice. Remember that famous poem in O'level about "work that had to be done by everybody who thot that anybody could do it but somebody ... blah... blah ... and in the end nobody actually did the work?" Caleb's done well to invoke the thots, h'eva Eng. Obetia noted that a similar idea(s) started in the names of West Nile Think Tank - still in the incubator to date. There seems to be consensus on the need for a forum of whatever sort or name. Why it is failing to take root in my opinion lies in the fact that we've not given thought to the WHY part of it... Got to go for an urgent task, will carry on from here ... _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] AWOL
Hi West Nile, The series below are interesting and amusing. But who says that there should be no reason for just running out of gas, you Ejiku. We all did it. Afterall the IMF bossman says the world is also rolling into a recess. Not only Alaka. Just like the figures on the Wall Street keep jumping up and low (yesterday the DOW was up by +600, while NASDAQ went -ve). Ideas in this West Nile space shall continue to do the same. And if for instance we assume that Acidri was one time a historical movement brought up by Grandpa style, he will say Ejiku is being disrespectful to an elder's reason for a recess. Watching the space a little more. Regards, Robert O Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:49:20 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] AWOLTo: westnilenet@kym.net Spot on!!--- On Sun, 10/12/08, Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] AWOLTo: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:23 AM Hi Alaka, You started so well like you had just got a free yahoo account. Your Administrator never told you certain things and I would like to tell you one of them. That you do not need to be in Kampala to access and send e-mails. That is how costly ignorance can be. All the same well come back from wherever 'God knows'. Take care and keep in touch and by the time you read this mail Uganda cranes will already be out of the running for both World cup and Africa Cup of Nations. God bless this poor country where only talented people exist in bars and corridors of powerlessness. Thank you. Ejiku, Your Tea boy Caleb Alaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Guys, I have been AWOL I mean Absent without leave for some time. Whats boiling over there Caleb___WestNileNet mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet% WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Bail outs
Alaka, Idoru and Mundua, Your provocation got close to annoying me although I have refused to reach my yield point. Alaka, my take is not just on the question but your break neck speed style. How could you guys ask and answer a multi trillion dollar (US$60,000,000,000,000) question too correct to be true for me. If I understand your cause for debate, I would say a Trillion dollar brick is too expensive for a foundation. We have enough blacksmith in Pakwach to make Wedges for breaking stones in Vurra more cheaply. Let’s go local. Idoru and Mundua, you should stay that answer until I hit the jack pot of that answer or when I finish finding the most wanted head /skull for US$250M. You even don’t have space in that Bank to keep a trillion. I believe in physical cash not the written. I will describe Alaka as behaving like diversionary. In case Ejiku points to my position as trying to run away from the reality of a modern global village (of ideas) – we must first visit Payless in Nakawa, then Metro Cash and Carry before we go to Wallmart (sp?) of ideas. And when I see DOW ::: ↑ +600 or NASDAQ ↓ 76.45 it means nothing to me. I am yet to establish what Capital Market means in my mother together. Acidri recently educated me on stock exchange market in a manner very much applicable in Terego or Logiri. Therefore, I beg not to inflate this debate in the way US mortgage values are. Even if we catch the flu when the giant sneezes, leave the Americans alone. They are too crazy for big or hyped things. For instance Mundua you talk of bail outs in US (what happened to Bassajja as an example). Graphically US$ 700 Billion = Tarmac for high mobility and dust eradication on all the (9,700km of primary roads, 38,000km district roads and estimated 52,000km community access in Uganda) + (6,000,000 new class self contained housing units for the 30million Ugandans, assuming 5 persons per house hold) + (6 new airports in Arua, Ntungamo, Gulu, Kasese, Kidepo and Soroti for no air traffic to use) + (railway network through all districts to carry people, charcoal and chicken) + (1 borehole water point on every new home) + (900 new schools as Centres of excellence in each of about 900 subcounties in Uganda) + (82 new referral hospitals in each of about 82 districts of Uganda including Kabong where only Ostriches can thrive) + (Hydro energy stations at all 4 major potentials in Uganda and in an environmentally compliant manner) + US$ 250Billion as balance for other forms of empowerment. Do you really think we should start the debate at that level or in that direction? If you think the above figures are wrong find out with Alex Ruhunda. Because that is where we should start, else you will cause an early trauma. Let us draw the first vector correctly. Now last time I had started looking for an agric researcher to help support my planned mushroom project on a ¼ acre. I found him and his first advise was that I just need a small verandah not a ¼. And about Alex Ruhunda, i best remember him for investing in guild president contest where he got 1 vote from Lumumba Hall which had over 10 of his campaign organisers. The question was where were the agents that were promised positions and keeping logistics on election day?. He is a nice guy behind his dim lenses. Somebody should help me take it from there … Watching you by the night. Regards, Robert Obetia Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:01:33 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] Bail outs Dear Idoru, Mundua and Alemi, You are our top bankers from West Nile and we are proud of you. In the early nineties and in this decade, the world embraced Privatization as a panacea to all our problems. The same world seems to be nationalizing financial institutions under the guise of bail outs. can we say therefore that it is not correct for Governments to leave sensitive sectors like the financial sector entirely in the hands of the Private sector. Can we also say that it is not enough to think about a strong regulatory regime. Eng. Obetia you have a good understanding of financial issues what is your take. I have not forgotten our other MB A's Ejiku and Ezaga what is your take on the same. Alaka _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Finally
Ejiku and Ezaga,
While you were in search of light, i was travelling to north-east of Liberia.
Then there i saw real light in a country side investment (restuarant) which
carries
the useful message below. Now don't ask me how i behaved before i finished my
refreshment break. To me this is one of the best investment minds.
Robert O
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:04:06 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet]
RE: FinallyTo: westnilenet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Roberto,
I dare say that "I am the light"- at least in some cases!! Besides, the debate
needed some breather lest a few readers begin to steam thru the ears.--- On
Wed, 10/15/08, Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED], "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile"
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:39 AM
Patrick,
If you think 'male' ideas are interesting, read through the current discussion
between Alaka and Eng. Obetia and tell me how you laughed so hard that your
ribs now ache.
Man why don't you see the light.
Ejiku.Patrick Ezaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ejiku, Ejiku, Ejku,
Yo desire for gender balance smacks of ..!! haha--- On Tue, 10/14/08,
Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyTo:
"A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date:
Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:27 PM
Hi Guys and ladies,
Cathy should know now where to find the ladies because I'm 'fed' up with 'male'
views on these pages all the time. But sincerely, Cathy welcome aboard and
enjoy your 'flight'.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
… and the gentlemen have now gone quiet…
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alemi,
WilliamKenyiSent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PMTo: A Virtual Network for
friends of West NileSubject: [WestNileNet] Finally
Cathy,
Cheers. A lady is now finally on board.
Alemi
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL
PROTECTED]: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:57 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE:
[WestNileNet] Bail outs
At this rate, I would like to suggest we start ‘ekimezza’ alongside J !
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caleb AlakaSent:
Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:02 AMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West
NileSubject: [WestNileNet] Bail outs
Dear Idoru, Mundua and Alemi,
You are our top bankers from West Nile and we are proud of you. In the early
nineties and in this decade, the world embraced Privatization as a panacea to
all our problems. The same world seems to be nationalizing financial
institutions under the guise of bail outs. can we say therefore that it is not
correct for Governments to leave sensitive sectors like the financial sector
entirely in the hands of the Private sector. Can we also say that it is not
enough to think about a strong regulatory regime. Eng. Obetia you have a good
understanding of financial issues what is your take. I have not forgotten our
other MB A's Ejiku and Ezaga what is your take on the same.
Alaka
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RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Finally
David, I guess quality time begins. A Cold Nile Special would run downwell. And dont don't forget to pick Igara Tea Pack Payless before sit too long. Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyDate: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:14:40 +0300From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: westnilenet@kym.net Today is Friday. What is next? Mobile 256-712-760293 Direct 256-414-349797 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friday, October 17, 2008 8:25 AMTo: westnilenet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Finally Indeed, this is uniqueJ!!! __ Gordon Obitre-Gama|Network Operations| MTN Uganda|Cell +256-772-212246|Tel +256-312-212766|Fax +256-312-212744| MTN Switch Building 77-79 Port Bell Rd, Mbuya| P.O.Box 24624 Kampala Uganda| email [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of robert obetiaSent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:55 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile; Robert EjikuSubject: RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Finally Ejiku and Ezaga, While you were in search of light, i was travelling to north-east of Liberia. Then there i saw real light in a country side investment (restuarant) which carries the useful message as attached hereto. Now don't ask me how i behaved before i finished my refreshment break. To me this is one of the best investment minds. See the attached. Robert Obetia Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:04:06 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyTo: westnilenet@kym.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Roberto, I dare say that 'I am the light'- at least in some cases!! Besides, the debate needed some breather lest a few readers begin to steam thru the ears.--- On Wed, 10/15/08, Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' Date: Wednesday, October 15, 2008, 10:39 AM Patrick, If you think 'male' ideas are interesting, read through the current discussion between Alaka and Eng. Obetia and tell me how you laughed so hard that your ribs now ache. Man why don't you see the light. Ejiku.Patrick Ezaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ejiku, Ejiku, Ejku, Yo desire for gender balance smacks of ..!! haha--- On Tue, 10/14/08, Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: FinallyTo: 'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile' Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 2:27 PM Hi Guys and ladies, Cathy should know now where to find the ladies because I'm 'fed' up with 'male' views on these pages all the time. But sincerely, Cathy welcome aboard and enjoy your 'flight'. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: … and the gentlemen have now gone quiet… From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alemi, WilliamKenyiSent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 12:06 PMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: [WestNileNet] Finally Cathy, Cheers. A lady is now finally on board. Alemi From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:57 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [WestNileNet] Bail outs At this rate, I would like to suggest we start ‘ekimezza’ alongside J ! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caleb AlakaSent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 11:02 AMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: [WestNileNet] Bail outs Dear Idoru, Mundua and Alemi, You are our top bankers from West Nile and we are proud of you. In the early nineties and in this decade, the world embraced Privatization as a panacea to all our problems. The same world seems to be nationalizing financial institutions under the guise of bail outs. can we say therefore that it is not correct for Governments to leave sensitive sectors like the financial sector entirely in the hands of the Private sector. Can we also say that it is not enough to think about a strong regulatory regime. Eng. Obetia you have a good understanding of financial issues what is your take. I have not forgotten our other MB A's Ejiku and Ezaga what is your take on the same. Alaka This email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the addressee, do not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this email or any attachments. If received in error, notify the sender immediately and delete this email and any attachments from your system. Emails cannot be guaranteed to be secure or erro
RE: [WestNileNet] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Gentlemen and Lady(ies - Just in case we've >1 already),
You all have to forgive me if my question is useless for the times. Kig and
Oyulu, before i see the real fruit (leave alone tasting) of the
WestNileNet you have introduced me to yet another.
I am always interested in keeping in networks as long as some (ca$$Sh) follows
in the medium to long term effect of being in (read Linkedin).
So it is your chance to educate me on this professionals - "Linkedin". My
question is simple - How many lucrative deals, assignments can
an average person get per annum AND OR what type of other resource information
may exist?
Robert Obetia
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] Invitation to
connect on LinkedInDate: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:23:39 +0300click on this link
https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/384082841/0lwMlRCZ/
and join
Kiggs
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:54 PM, Mundua, Godfrey wrote:
Fine,
Put me on
Godfrey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kiggundu
MukasaSent: Monday, October 20, 2008 2:31 PMTo: A Virtual Network for friends
of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Linkedin is great and all should join
I am on and its amazing the professional contacts you can get
Kiggs
On Oct 20, 2008, at 2:19 PM, Mundua, Godfrey wrote:
Patrick,
What is linked in
Regards
Godfrey
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick
OyuluSent: Monday, October 20, 2008 1:38 PMTo: A NileSubject: [WestNileNet]
Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
LinkedIn
A,I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Patrick
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What is LinkedIn and why should you join?
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RE: [WestNileNet] Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn
Hi Alaka and Patrick - Oyulu (i guess). I am very well Alaka, and getting happier with developments on your side. I actually see that your life, my life and our lives are increasingly being transformed by technology. If i remember, the Collin's edition of the English dictionary defines technology as "science as applied to human needs". So i think that the best definition of a scientist is the user of science (like Alaka). But If you are still a Catholic you will be blamed for making Galeleo do little in his past. I believe that having been intimmidated by God's believers following his discoveries, he couldnt do so much. Now what Kig and Patrick have put you through is to use a combination of scientific applications. These applications are a result of laws that are enacted naturally. The enacting is done by all not a select or partisan parliarment. Once you log onto your computer for the first time, it means you have voted for several scientific laws - Einstens, Galeleo, Faraday, Colombus etc. You may venture as much as you wish in advancement using technology alone as Kigs keeps taking you like he browses into various network of knowledge and opportunities. You may say the sky is the limit but i say that is not true. It is still Isaac Newtons fundermental laws e.g. of gravitational pull (force) - "g" that limits you from reaching the (if ever there is an) end in the sky. It is g for the word ground. So everything ends here on the ground. If God created nature (Genesis says) as he is the Super Natural, and as you and i know that all science is a natural, then there is no need to utter doubt of these 2 forces or phenomena. I always believe in beneficial advantages. God : Science = Morality : Economics. Luckily i have been reminded by my dear (Pamela) seated next to save some of the discussion for later time. Greetings from her too. Thanks and best regards. Robert Obetia Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:46:16 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] Re: Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Patrick, Thanks brother, I decided to connect to Linkedin. You know what, I am not a scientist like Eng. Obetia. Scientists tried to disapprove the existence of God but failed. They have laws which are not enacted by any Parliament, Court or Dictators. They believe in operating with X which might be constant. They think experiments take a specific course other things being constant. They fear ventures. But the good thing is that Eng. Obetia is an infrustructural advisor. He knows now that life is not about X to Power Y base Z. He rather gets the IP address of my Computer by loging into IP config/all at run. But all the same he might fail to get my MAC address and the world continues. Its therefore High time that he connects to LinkedIn and sees the Results. But I have missed him a great deal and I hope He is well. I do not know why Acidri and Ejiku are Hybernating. Guys waz up. Caleb--- On Mon, 10/20/08, Patrick Oyulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Patrick Oyulu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: Invitation to connect on LinkedInTo: "Caleb Alaka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Monday, October 20, 2008, 11:02 AM LinkedIn Caleb,I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - Patrick Learn more:https://www.linkedin.com/e/isd/384098793/yHOtvC0j/ What is LinkedIn and why should you join? © 2008, LinkedIn Corporation _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] November
Dear Alaka, I have been recovering from the effect of getting glued on the "Situation Room" for many nights and especially when the Kisumu boy was swinging undecided States in US and undermining the ground the Republican Party stood on i understand for long. I joined the East African group in Night Long Obama Party led by Kenyans night at Monrovia's newest french style executive club "Deja vuu". Before my attention could be drawn to Temangalo by your mail, the matter had been ditched the usual way. Hnm! atleast the first phase. The rest is upto the Workers who have saved in NSSF. Like me all these workers will wake up from Deja vuu (for Obamanic parties which they say was only hated by cows, goats, pigs with lipsticks) after this weekend, only to find Temangalo and US elections are KALASH. Over kabisa. Next chapter? Alot has been going on Ombacia but possibly Draecabo, Ezaga or Okuni may best tell you, although I still head the OBs Eastern Uganda Committee from W. Africa. I will certainly be part of you converging in Arua during December and expect to catch parts and bits of any events there. Yes i will. Your concept paper is welcome and when you circulate it, i am sure it will attract positive inputs from many. Best Regards R Obetia Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:02:59 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] November Hi, Guys, and ladies (for the record I mean Cathy). I think the week ended on a Low. I heard Temangalo was about to submerge the Amamas. I also heard that the Election of one Columbus as the Kyabazinga of Busoga was dramatic. I understand the Busoga Parliament was condoned off by military Police of the UPDF. one lady from Arua was promoted from the rank of Lt. to Captain. I mean Captain Harriet Dudu from Ayivu. Goffis minor celebrated a birthday as did mine. All this said, are we likely to converge during x-mass for the usual do?. Eng. Obetia what has happened to Ombachi OBs. will you be in Arua? eeh what of Acidri James my follower... By the way my concept paper on West Nile Research Center and Center for Strategic studies is out and you will make an input as soon as possible. The next project We shall launch is the WEF. Wish you a good and nice November. Alaka _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] November
Dear Illusive Gilbert Adibo. You didn't disclose your new geographical location. So where are you - be precise in both name of place, and coordinates e.g (Gilbert for beer) @ Lugogo Rugby club - 0019’42.63”N, 32036’16.59”E, . Nice to hear from you and best regards. R Obetia Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:09:17 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] November Dear All, I am more than delighted to join Westnilenet forum. For the World being dynamic and in an attempt not to be left out as changes occur more rapidly than ever, I changed geographical location. Until afew weeks ago, I have not been able to exchange Ideas with a bigger West Nile audience such as this, thanks to Ejiku Robert. Certainly this forum can achieve alot, knowing the mobilisation power that lies behind the particpants I know of on this forum. A couple of insightful ideas and opinions have criss crossed this forum and I hope to place my voice too, as and when deemed apporpriate to foster the ideals desired to be achieved through the forum. I hope to participate in some of the re-union events alluded to here by some members in December. Keep it up guys! Cheers!! Gilbert Adibo 2008/11/12 Charles Dra-ecabo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Robert and Caleb,Thanks for yours. Yes, November has ushered us into yet another 30 days of great opportunities and challenges. Temangalo saga, Obama victory and the Basoga crisis aside, many of us have seen our siblings overcome UNEB O level exams and are yet to see others in the A level..May success come their way as it did to Obama.Ombachi OBs annual dinner are progressing at different stages and locations. This time, branches will take lead and only involve Central level executive when and as they wish. Mbarara branch was launched last Sat. 8th Nov in a very colourful function. Kampala branch is planning one soon! Okuni is on top of this.Watch this space! I am yet to confirm the one for Arua. Christmas period is definitely very ideal period.I look forward to receiving the concept paper on the West Nile Research Center and Center for Strategic studies. It will be nice at an appropriate time and forum to present the paper for discussion. Just a thought! All for now and nice week. Draecabo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [WestNileNet] NovemberDate: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 15:29:06 +0300CC: Dear Alaka, I have been recovering from the effect of getting glued on the "Situation Room" for many nights and especially when the Kisumu boy was swinging undecided States in US and undermining the ground the Republican Party stood on i understand for long. I joined the East African group in Night Long Obama Party led by Kenyans night at Monrovia's newest french style executive club "Deja vuu". Before my attention could be drawn to Temangalo by your mail, the matter had been ditched the usual way. Hnm! atleast the first phase. The rest is upto the Workers who have saved in NSSF. Like me all these workers will wake up from Deja vuu (for Obamanic parties which they say was only hated by cows, goats, pigs with lipsticks) after this weekend, only to find Temangalo and US elections are KALASH. Over kabisa. Next chapter? Alot has been going on Ombacia but possibly Draecabo, Ezaga or Okuni may best tell you, although I still head the OBs Eastern Uganda Committee from W. Africa. I will certainly be part of you converging in Arua during December and expect to catch parts and bits of any events there. Yes i will. Your concept paper is welcome and when you circulate it, i am sure it will attract positive inputs from many. Best Regards R Obetia Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 11:02:59 -0800From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [WestNileNet] November Hi, Guys, and ladies (for the record I mean Cathy). I think the week ended on a Low. I heard Temangalo was about to submerge the Amamas. I also heard that the Election of one Columbus as the Kyabazinga of Busoga was dramatic. I understand the Busoga Parliament was condoned off by military Police of the UPDF. one lady from Arua was promoted from the rank of Lt. to Captain. I mean Captain Harriet Dudu from Ayivu. Goffis minor celebrated a birthday as did mine. All this said, are we likely to converge during x-mass for the usual do?. Eng. Obetia what has happened to Ombachi OBs. will you be in Arua? eeh what of Acidri James my follower... By the way my concept paper on West Nile Research Center and Center for Strategic studies is out and you will make an input as soon as possible. The next project We shall launch is the WEF. Wish you a good and nice November. Alaka Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out! Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Check it out!___WestNileNet mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westni
RE: [WestNileNet] November
He men, Why crack your skulls with ideas on wetland use. Who said they should not exist anywhere. A wetland is part of the natural ecosystem and regulates it e.g. good mosquitoe breeding land for malaria transimission. Obtain frogs for scientific research practice from wetlands. etc etc. Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 13:47:27 +0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [WestNileNet] November Hey Guys!! How about NSSF consulting Prof. Bukenya on Upland rice growing in the Temangalo land??!! Wouldn't that be a short term Investment too as we mobilise more Savings to reclaim the land as Aza has suggested to build serious housing estate?!! I would Advise NSSF or Source contractors from Dubai. Haven't you guys seem reclamations of land from the Arabian Gulf where islands are being constructed in the shape of a palm tree in dcumentaries on Dubai? 'Let the liberators mdernse the country" Let us sleep as usual and not waste time UGX 11bn shall be refunded to NSSF. Uganda Oyee!! Gilberto 2008/11/13 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Well, supposing the swamp(only afew acres) is reclaimed and that the investment idea materialises, I think some housing issues can be sorted. Just looking at the other side of the coin. Folks have a great time.. Aza'bo-FrancisTreasury..a commitment to justice carries with it an obligation to disobey unjust laws. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile From: Robert Ejiku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 11/13/2008 09:00AMSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] November Hi Everyone, What a wonderful day this has become. Obama now President elect!! Gilly gets a license to drink!! Workers have officially been handed the swamp at Temangalo!! Atleast as workers we can now settle down and set up our fish ponds and in four hundred years we will be rich!!! Someone said that Obama can not even win an LC1 election in Uganda bse he can't unlease the kind of violence we need to win elections in Uganda. Even Kings now rig elections to the throne!! Thanks everyone and I believe Alaka will make a proper attachment of the concept paper for the Centre for Research and Strategic Studies. Truly, Ejiku, Obama's cousin. Gilbert Adibo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Ro-Obetia!!! Location: Dubai, United Arab Emirates Occupation: Operational Oversight of a Real Estate brokerage firm punctuated by reading, less drinking, though am officially licensed to drink by the Dubai Police News: Dubai is the place where what the call a Vision is surely working, not "our type of Vision" in Uganda. Dubai Property Market is HOT!! Mobile Contact: +971 50 9016521 Cheers! Gilberto 2008/11/12 robert obetia < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dear Illusive Gilbert Adibo. You didn't disclose your new geographical location. So where are you - be precise in both name of place, and coordinates e.g (Gilbert for beer) @ Lugogo Rugby club - 0 0 19'42.63"N, 32 0 36'16.59"E, . Nice to hear from you and best regards. R Obetia Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:09:17 +0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] November Dear All, I am more than delighted to join Westnilenet forum. For the World being dynamic and in an attempt not to be left out as changes occur more rapidly than ever, I changed geographical location. Until afew weeks ago, I have not been able to exchange Ideas with a bigger West Nile audience such as this, thanks to Ejiku Robert. Certainly this forum can achieve alot, knowing the mobilisation power that lies behind the particpants I know of on this forum. A couple of insightful ideas and opinions have criss crossed this forum and I hope to place my voice too, as and when deemed apporpriate to foster the ideals desired to be achieved through the forum. I hope to participate in some of the re-union events alluded to here by some members in December. Keep it up guys! Cheers!! Gilbert Adibo 2008/11/12 Charles Dra-ecabo < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dear Robert and Caleb, Thanks for yours. Yes, November has ushered us into yet another 30 days of great opportunities and challenges. Temangalo saga, Obama victory and the Basoga crisis aside, many of us have seen our siblings overcome UNEB O level exams and are yet to see others in the A level..May success come their way as it did to Obama. Ombachi OBs annual dinner are progressing at different stages and locations. This time, branches will take lead and only involve Central level executive when and as they wish. Mbarara branch was launched last Sat. 8th Nov in a very colourful function. Kampala branch is planning one soon! Okuni is on top of this.Watch this space! I am yet to confirm the one for Arua. Christmas period is definitely very ideal period. I look forward to receiving the concept paper on the Wes
RE: [WestNileNet] Thanking you for the support
Hello Alaka, Happy new year too. And may it bring many more returns to you. May those cows produce triplets soon, and may the rains pour and sun shine well in West Nile for good pasture. However my appologies for failing to set eye on most of you during the short holidays and season of festivities. Thank God i talked to some of you and met a few others. That was the season which passed fastest. What ever made it that way, Alaka will explain using the 2 days of Hangover he was responsible for while he made many to sit at Heritage. Best regards, Robert Obetia Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2009 02:51:06 -0800From: calebal...@yahoo.comto: westnile...@kym.netsubject: [WestNileNet] Thanking you for the support Dear Folks,Belated Happy new year. We thank God for having mercifully blessed us to cross over the old year unto the new year. It will come up with strange challenges. Lets however not be shaken. For we are a generation who are self made and lets be steadfast and tenacious in all the ventures we undertake. Lastly, I say thank you for your moral, financial and physical support during the aje of my baby sis. It was a great function. Lets keep up the spirit.Elder Alaka _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Persona non grata
Hmn! Alaka, I did not know that you would relate the effect of various dishes in animal (human) character. Ndugu Ejiku Robert (the expert manager of food science) may find it difficult to challenge you there. Just encourage the guys in question (i do not know) to eat less red fresh meat (common in luwombo) and less acid hexos sugar (found in mashed matoke). Be more vegetarian and peaceful like Alaka. If you think there is no relationship between food and behaviour, start it as your first assignment in West Nile Centre for Food Research. And dont look for big clergy - read to the those guys Verses 12 - 30 of Chapter 5 and let Haji Jurua tell you the Book in the Bible, which ever he chooses. Best Regards Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:10:18 -0800From: calebal...@yahoo.comto: westnile...@kym.netsubject: [WestNileNet] Persona non grata I am floating an idea of us adopting a resolution of declaring one of our own as persona non Grata. Simply put, he should not be one of us, not invited to our functions. likewise we do not attend his functions until he shows that he is a grown up man who can take charge of his private family life. I know, anger against a brother is not felt in the marrow but in the flesh. But a kinsman who grew up in a good christian family who was fed on the best nutritious dishes including 'ocakuca, kololo, osubi, asuaka, go'do, iza alaza, au osiza, mundrokolo, osubi etc" can not abandon his good ways just because he now takes matoke. This guy can not discipline his weird, errant, uncouth, uncultured, illiterate, God forsaken wife. We should either constitute a committee of five elders including a high ranking religious leader to talk to this guy who is apparently lost in black magic, or blackmail. If we cant, lets just declare him uninvited amidst us until he takes charge of his home. Adrole thanks for your eye catching pieces, that's the way to go.Alaka _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Persona non grata
Hmn! Alaka, I did not know that you would relate the effect of various dishes in animal (human) character. Ndugu Ejiku Robert (the expert manager of food science) may find it difficult to challenge you there. Just encourage the guys in question (i do not know) to eat less red fresh meat (common in luwombo) and less acid hexos sugar (found in mashed matoke). Be more vegetarian and peaceful like Alaka. If you think there is no relationship between food and behaviour, start it as your first assignment in West Nile Centre for Food Research. And dont look for big clergy - read to the those guys Verses 12 - 30 of Chapter 5 and let Haji Jurua tell you the Book in the Bible, which ever he chooses. Best Regards Robert Obetia Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:10:18 -0800From: calebal...@yahoo.comto: westnile...@kym.netsubject: [WestNileNet] Persona non grata I am floating an idea of us adopting a resolution of declaring one of our own as persona non Grata. Simply put, he should not be one of us, not invited to our functions. likewise we do not attend his functions until he shows that he is a grown up man who can take charge of his private family life. I know, anger against a brother is not felt in the marrow but in the flesh. But a kinsman who grew up in a good christian family who was fed on the best nutritious dishes including 'ocakuca, kololo, osubi, asuaka, go'do, iza alaza, au osiza, mundrokolo, osubi etc" can not abandon his good ways just because he now takes matoke. This guy can not discipline his weird, errant, uncouth, uncultured, illiterate, God forsaken wife. We should either constitute a committee of five elders including a high ranking religious leader to talk to this guy who is apparently lost in black magic, or blackmail. If we cant, lets just declare him uninvited amidst us until he takes charge of his home. Adrole thanks for your eye catching pieces, that's the way to go.Alaka _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/events.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] The Boy who performed well
Alaka, That boy was "Progressively hopeful". Perhaps "hoping to keep Progress" at that rate per term is risky but matters of the nature can change linearly or exponentially - unpredictable. Robert Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 02:09:47 -0800From: calebal...@yahoo.comto: westnile...@kym.netsubject: [WestNileNet] The Boy who performed well My neighbor is an interesting person. He summoned me to talk to His son about his academic woes. For the record, the Boy got 6 % in mathematics. When I unleashed my bravado on the poor boy including a 98% I got in Mathematics in Senior three Mvara S.S ( for avoidance of doubt ask Mr. Drasi of Mvara S.S.) the boy responded that "you see uncle, these results are an achievement. I did extremely well, otherwise, in the previous term, I just got 2%" Tell you what folks, I was humbled, who says from 2% to 6% is not a big leap. Though in grading terms this could still be an F.9, the moral lesson is the spirit of always improving on what we have Wish you a nice weekend and probably we meet at D.M.O's Alaka _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Did you know
Alaka and Oyulu, I will believe you only if you use any results (whether of physics or maths) to convince me on how to get wired to my bedroom like a Korean mostly living in Seoul. I know the trouble for me and you two is the preference of a broadbed instead of broadband in the room. Like many we like broadbased everything (including governance) based on rural power base yet it is costly to extend broadband infrastructure for high connectivity to those places. We even enjoy drinking beer with broad straws wasting plastic glass material which would have been used in fibre optics for broadband communication infrastructure (is that true Mundua or Kigs ?). You don't have to hack for fortune and secrets, we have beer to hack. That is where we can not lead koreans yet. Dont get worried that i will attack on the broad 500ml beer bottle yet others do only 350mm - I still like that aspect of our broad. Oyulu, buy a longer broader straw for high connectivity and penetration to enjoy hacking your beer from a corner in Just Kicking, Hot pot, DMOs, Beer Garden etc. You will surely lead the Korean hack lovers in search of secrets. Your motivation will be ...?.. Robert Obetia Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:50:31 +0300From: patrickoy...@gmail.comto: westnile...@kym.netsubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Did you knowAllow me to submit my Physics results (that are too hot I must add), to be corroborated by Mr. Adutia (RIP) himself..or Florence Drajo for that matter.Caleb, can I approach the bench? On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Caleb Alaka wrote: Patrick, I believe the cerebral Eng. Obetia Robert has an answer to how people in South Korea who are the most "wired' country in the world do take beer. probably you Order it online. Beer and IT may not add. By the way Kigs has made me look like this Chap who used to brag to his kids that he used to get above 90% in all his examinable subjects until their Grandfather told them the truth. The Guy was so embarrassed when the kids showed him his report card which showed that the Guy was oscillating between 30% and 45%. Talk of old people who keep records and pass the same over to their grand-kids to the chagrin of the father. But in my case I have Drasi as my point of reference or Ayibo Bernard or any of my class mates. Alaka From: Patrick Oyulu To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 2:34:49 PMSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Did you know ...and when I need to pour beer into my glass, do I insert a code or somethingin South Korea?Just asking. On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Caleb Alaka wrote: Colleagues, did you know that South Korea is the most "wired" Country in the World. It has Internet on trains, on buses and in taxis, which is always free. Hotels put computers in every room. 93% of South Korean households receive broadband. the highest penetration in the world. People watch the premier league in their cell phones. Caleb___WestNileNet mailing listwestnile...@kym.nethttp://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet% WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.__WestNileNet mailing listwestnile...@kym.nethttp://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet% WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way.___ _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga.
Gentlemen and Ladies, Good observation. Investigate why and how many DEOs, IoSs, HMs and etc send their children to Mukono/Seeta boarding Primaries like the "ASIKUs" of now. Alaka can this give u a chance to launch 'W-Nile Centre for "...?" Research' as there is reason. I'm begining to forget the name. Don't be derailed by my suggestion. It's a serious issue the question of declining performance in the region. Can you start a "Role Model" kind of project for the primary schools in Nyanglia, Otuombari, Alivu, Ambidro, Ajonuo, Kijomoro, Arua Hill, Jiako, etc and motivate the kids to wish bigger? Doesn't cost much. Only your leave/vacation time in Arua and fuel in that Prado/Pajero/RAV etc. Just imagining that there may be "self gear" in serious children to . Those kids of Seeta boarding see and watch big cars, healthy faces as though of success and want to be like that. Leave no chance to the village tyrants like "Okolora?" to dominate the minds. Robert Obetia Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 18:33:10 +0300Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga.From: ruffino.ez...@gmail.comto: westnilenet@kym.net Dear Caleb Thanks for touching this topic which of course should make us reflect. I was with Mr Juruga the other day and of course asked him why Ombaci is not performing as it used to do. He mentioned among other factors that the products they receive from primary also leaves a lot to be desired. I am in ombaci community from last saturday and I will try to research the causes of the downfall. >From 1999 Lodonga Primary Teachers college (PTC) is leading all the other >PTCs. Why not other schools of our region? I will find out from Fr Dr Epiphany Picho Odubuker to give us his version of the situation Thanks to Francis for the statistics -- Ruffino Ezama,mccjComboni MissionariesP.O Box 3872KampalaUganda(+256 77 2 62 42 40)(+256 75 2 62 42 40)ruffino.ez...@gmail.comezama.ruffino@gmail.comruff...@cmpmail.comwww.tualu.org _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga.
Gentlemen and Ladies, Godfrey, If the problem and solution to poor performances is viewed along your line of analysis only, then we can sit and say let people get rich and build good schools, let people go to private schools and pass, let everyone afford to go for schools in Kampala or Mukono or South Africa and UK, etc. I think whether capitalism or globalization, there is the element of patriotism in Alaka’s or Okuni’s quest for better performance in West Nile. Even the highest capitalism is on bailouts. Sorry I have no intention to take the discussion hyper. I think what you want acknowledged is that fact that declining financial support for education in the country is becoming the root cause to many other aspects that eventually lead to poor performance. Right, I agree. So we should not look for difficult solutions that will bring state of despair among the concerned. Let us look at why Kisubi, Gayaza, Budo, Namugongo (of similar roots as Ombaci, Mvara, Nyapea) do it differently. These schools still have the same ownership (correct me if wrong). Then we can also have Maryland Vs Arua Academy or Namirembe Hill Side Vs Mandela on the side of purely private schools. And I believe privatization is not the only solution in this case. School managements with PTAs still run with the level of autonomy like private entities in this country do. And it is not difficult to inject more money in Ombaci or Mvara in form of extra fees (determined by PTAs) than think about private schools as a solution. Plus I think people have been paying fees long before. So what about: teacher quality, teacher’s guides, proper textbooks, teacher unfavorable working conditions in rural areas, pupil/student motivations AND I BELIEVE THERE IS BIGGER NEED FOR EFFICIENT SCHOOL MANAGEMENT AND BETTER REGULAR INSPECTIONS. Minds like yours just need to penetrate PTAs in your own homes of Arua, Yumbe, Koboko, Moyo, Adjumani, Nebbi and Nyadri. Once in a year visit to your HM and PTA chairman of Ambidro or Koyi or Arua Hill Primary school is not bad. Sometimes we contribute bags of cement more generously to these schools and forget about the most important “WORDS OF ADVISE AND ENCOURAGEMENT” . Best regards, Robert Obetia Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga.Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:45:01 +0300From: godfrey.mun...@standardchartered.comto: westnilenet@kym.net Guys, The reason for poor performance is simple, times have changed as you are all aware that modernity in a typical capitalist world is a demise to the poor. Where as standards of the Mvaras, Ombacis etc is going down, there is parallel emergence of good performance from private schools in Kampala and around where performance rate is upto 90%. This scenario augments the point that the struggle for socio economic success in Uganda today is a private matter and any one who thinks the state will provide solutions to the deteriorating standards of education is a dreamer. Build your own good schools and get the results you expect. Some one will disagree with me on this and say it is the sole responsibility of the state to offer such fundamental responsibilities such as education, primary health care etc..but you in Uganda today, this is not the case. The fundamental point here is that poorly funded government schools can no longer cope with the standards and on all benchmarks across the board the private schools score higher; they have better remuneration, better facilities and even better students!!. There is an investment opportunity here which I believe will give the everlasting solution to the broader picture, the Alakas, Ejikus, Ezagas, James Nyakunis, the Ozuus, the Vices should cross check their current investment portfolios and look into this lucrative business. Our people are not exactly poor but many do not have the alternatives within their reach. Do you know how many parents living in West Nile have their children in schools here in Kampala? UPE and USE where Westnile scores the highest enrollement is a recipe for disaster and a dangerous form by all designs. Do we expect to get more lawyers, engineers, doctors etc from the results we are seeing? The platform is wrong and negatively skewed to the disadvantage of the poor. Caleb, cause a formal debate over this issue and extract the various ideas to benefit the other stakeholders(business community , educations policy makers etc) Regards Godfrey From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of francis.az...@finance.go.ugsent: Friday, February 13, 2009 5:02 PMTo: A Virtual Network for friends of West NileSubject: Re: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe,Muni, Wari, St.lwanga. You may peruse throught the figures gentlemen..Dont get blind as its really bad like Alaka has elaborated. Aza&#x
RE: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga.
Godfrey, DMO, Alaka and all, No subject of ideological difference for discussion here. DMO, I see your conscious with time is proper. Surely 6.45 was 2 bottles (1000ml) into the beer time. This may be annoying but Emailing at beer or Heineken time like this is better as it seems to bring endless questions to the mind. Godfrey and Alaka, forgive me if these questions sting beer:- Is all the poor performance in primary and secondary schools in WN actually pointing to poor funding only? If so, have the private schools in the region offered better solution to this aspect? But if not, what could the other issues be, that may be achieved with no or least incremental funds? What stops teachers in Ombaci and Yole from getting similar relative motivation and facilitation like Budo or Kibibi? Or even students? Mvara to Arua is just like Budo is to Mpigi district, while Namirembe Hill View on gayaza road is just like Mandela in Giligili area; 2 public and 2 private schools respectively in different geo-locations. Surely Budo despite a public school is still better than the private Namirembe Hill view yet both are same distance in Km from the City Centre. Why? Mvara is still better than private Mandela but not Budo. Why? Does it matter if capitalized by Alaka or Ozu bros (as directors) instead of the user or community through (PTA members = Board of directors)? What does it take to achieve relative motivation and facilitation? Is more funding required? If yes, how can it be achieved in view of the declining public schools funding? Is increasing fees a solution (despite UPE and USE)? Is there any policy or rules that prevents incremental fees payments by parents under both UPE and USE? If so are these policies or rules cast in stone that PTAs can not influence positive provisions and enlighten their communities? Is there need and possibility to support PTAs in directing such initiatives? If the fees are increased or even have been increased, is there any guarantee that they are properly used by school management? What is required to optimize the proper use of incremental fees paid by parents (in both primary and secondary)? Is school management going to use any incremental fees better to support both teacher and student motivation / facilitation? If not what guarantees are there that such increases are better used? Or what is required to ensure better use of increased fees? If schools operate with relative autonomy where is the point of bureaucracy? Is it possible that any bureaucratic cases in such schools with relative autonomy are just based on ignorance or greed? Is it not possible and practical to have such cases changed through enlightenment of the school heads, owners in the case of private ones, and board of directors (or PTAs)? Can OBs associations help in such awareness programmes alongside other associations like Alaka and Mundua Bros’, MASU, WENSA, MASA, TASU, ACA, OMBAMUNI- OLD-GIRL-BOY, etc? More for tomorrow on another Heineken, else the writing quality changes as Heinekens tend to infinity… But i still hold my original views on this matter. Best regards, Robert Obetia Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Collapse of Mvar, a Ombachi, Pokea, Nyapea, Ediofe, Muni, Wari, St.lwanga. Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:39:11 +0300 From: godfrey.mun...@standardchartered.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Robert, I agree with you on efficient management and regular inspection of schools although I am not sure if you are aware that management of public institutions in Uganda is by bureaucracy. You may probably take years to push these ideas through a public school. I like your suggestion for comparative study to understand why Ombaci can not replicate what the Budos etc are doing….but you will realize that the contrast is centered around motivation, facilities, attitude etc which all yields down to level of funding. You have also deliberately underscored my argument or quoted me out of context in my effort in trying to direct able bodied investors like you to put a few shillings in building schools. I am not oblivious of the fact that poverty levels in our area is high and but do not support the quest for a socialist approach on mass handling. It is not true that private schools are only for the rich (rich is relative term) and infact our ailing schools are not cheap. Do you know that the fees in all these schools is over UGX 300k compared to the average of UGX 500K in Kampala. The other factor we need to consider is the point of intervention. As an engineer you are familiar with foundations and you will agree with me that if Ombaci lowered its cutoff points for intake to S1 from aggregate 13 to 5 or 6 like Budo, they would probably end up with the same results at O level. The current performance at primary level is so bad that actually the secondary schools have no choice but to take half baked students who end up
RE: [WestNileNet] (no subject)
Afema, So tell me where this one should go - to g.., m.. or y.. Robert O From: afe...@mtn.co.ug To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:52:01 +0300 Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] (no subject) Wamah! You thought I was alone on this? See for your self. Anyway the reason I use all these is because not all my communication has to go via official email. From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of at...@mtn.co.ug Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:26 PM To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] (no subject) Ejiku……… Susan E.A. Afema Corporate Sales MTN Uganda cell:+256 772 212857 office: +256 312 212011 email:at...@mtn.co.ug From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Robert Ejiku Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 1:24 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] (no subject) Hi Afema, These are too many addresses. Stick to your most loved. You are confusing us. Ejiku. On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 10:30 PM, wrote: afe...@gmail.co, afe...@mtn.co.ug; afemarob...@yahoo.com; Afema Robert Media & Advertising Coordinator MTN (U) 22 Hannington Road Phone +256312-212305 Error! Filename not specified. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx<>___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: DONORS, DONORS!!
Gilbert, How do you tell us that when we also getting crunched by the Mundua's industry. RObetia Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:48:00 +0400 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: DONORS, DONORS!! From: adibo2...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Ejiku, Free Advise for U. Now is the time to invest in Real Assets; Equities and Real Estate! You buy cheaper now and you will be in the Money medium term. Borrowing from Warren Buffet: " Be scared to invest when everybody is buying but aggressive in investing when everybody is scared" Go out there bwana!! Remember to consult Munds. On 24/02/2009, Robert Ejiku wrote: Ezaga, Thank you my broda. Ejiku. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Patrick Ezaga wrote: Ejiku, You just stole my first place position to vent my dismay. Donor what!! People, no amount of donor cash will solve a thing unless we do it ourselves and the starting point ...MINDSET and ATTITUDE!!! MINDSET, MINDSET. For those who doubt me, read my ending line below. "The person who says it cannot be done should not interrupt the person doing it” Patrick Onen Ezaga Makerere University Business School P. O. Box 1337, Kampala Plot M118 Port Bell Road Mobile: +256 - 77-2511472 E-mail: pez...@gmail.com From: Robert Ejiku To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:02:31 AM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Double blow for investors as Corporate earnings fall Alaka, That Dutchman is a fool with a raw sense of humour. If your money is getting poor results would you rather withdraw or add more? If you think it is enough to change the standards, then something is not being done right and that is his role as a donor to find out and correct bse this is his money. Then the solution he provides is whimsical to say the least. Listen to this, "If they don't perform well we will take our money to those 'already' performing well". God bless this fucking world full of hypocrites who want to ride on the successes of others. Im enranged with that type of logic. Amen. Truly, Ejiku Robert. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Caleb Alaka wrote: Dear Folks, I was about to implode following the different contributions about the educational crunch in West Nile more so after the Netherlands ambassador Jeroen Verheul threatened to withdraw the 15 Bn as a result of Poor PLE performance in Arua and Nebi. My spirits were uplifted by our brothers Vasco Oguzu and John A Jackson. I will come to that. Kigs you informed us about Banks standing out as a haven for dividends and Mundua opined that the Crisis will create a new World Order. Well probably it Might be China. I chanced upon an article in the Daily Telegraph which indicated that the European Banking system is about to collapse. The Article claims that European Banks may have to write down US$25 trillion in losses.This is in stern contrast to American Banks which according to professor Roubini may write off US$1.8trillion. In other words, the problems faced by American Banks are nothing but a skinned knee compared to what European banks face. These Banks account for 74% of the entire US$4.9trillion portfolio to emerging markets. The Financial clincher is that no European Federal Reserve bank exists to print trillions of euros to bail out everyone like in U.S.A. When Monitor ran a story about GTV, some unscrupulous fella spinned a rumour that some big Ugandan bank with roots from UK had bust. I have never seen panick personified. Had it not been for the ingenuity of the PR fellas from that bank, we would have seen another Greenland. Now that we have a former teller as the Minister of Finance, Hope we shall not resort as Oyullu Put it to keep our dime in pots made from Panyamur. Mundua the ball is in Your Court. I have seen 20 new banks in Uganda. Hope our economy can absorb them. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments an
[WestNileNet] This Happens When Ignorance Prevails: Liberians rush for water in a new panic
Gentlemen and Ladies, If you were in Liberia and did not recieve more than 10 local telephone calls last night, or your compound was not overwhelmed with water searching residents of the community, or your security did not alert you of the state of affairs, then count yourself friendless (of atleast liberian nationals). I counted 14 calls before ignoring. Then i slipped past the our security gate at night and drove to talk to a good friend (a national). First it was quiet with match watching and then the excitement of football as any where on this continent. Then suddenly, true ignorance prevailed over the nations majority of mainly low urban and peri urban communities, as well the rural. Then one good Liberian friend called me to find if i can get for him additional containers for storage of water. I thought he had lost it, a gentleman who is already enlightened in money making - door to door fresh fish supplier. Last night it was widely (accross the country) believed by many Liberians that by the end of the night, anyone who failed to fetch enough water to last for the next 3 days will perish (DIE). By the night various scenerio were being advanced without reason. One gaurd told me this: "I finished filling my gallons ...ooh. Ein (read isn't it) the people say all water will turn to blood or something?". Another caller said "the people (neighbours) are all over my place to fetch water and say people who don't fetch will die". Etc and i hope i will get more other believes, but in my office now it is subject of KABOZIEE. Now Alaka, Mundua, Ejiku .. , Acidri (James why quiete)... .etc .. tell me, under what circumstances can a people take to such believes. Ignorance? Poverty? Effect of Liberia like war? Hysteria of what type/name? Atleast under current situations and as a result of their past or other reasons, many Liberians find themselves failed to comprehend issues properly. It was originally a news of good intention but poorly conveyed or understood. 2 Counties in Liberia are currently suffering attack from green worms (larva) - for those who remember if you were in Arua, they were called Kaluche. There was radio report that some of the areas would be sprayed to destroy the worms and so residents of those villages should store enough water as the sources may get conterminated for 3 days. And the next thing...? Monrovians who are 250km away too were into panic of blood steined water, mud filled waters, etc. Guys let us liberate ignorance through better education. I thought this case of last night in Liberia, which i very much associate with low education levels having happened at a time when i am watching discussions on concerns regarding education situation in West Nile would make my point of appeal to you: Please Re-focus the discussion for meaningful out come. Best regards, RObetia _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] This Happens When Ignorance Prevails: Liberians rush for water in a new panic
Hello Ruffino, What an interesting piece to read from you. Of course the waters are still clear otherwise i would have evacuated myself out of here. And the likes you would be here already to provide that philosophical mind. And thank you for that positive response and effort towards the call for a WW Education Task Force. Regards for now, RObetia Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 20:09:27 +0300 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] This Happens When Ignorance Prevails: Liberians rush for water in a new panic From: ruffino.ez...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Dear Gilbert Hi. As I was writing to you about six days ago my internet connection disappointed me. You wanted to know something about the cleverly manufactured water and see how to define ignorance according to their viewpoint. The stated three days are over we want to find out from Obetia whether the water really turned blood. I dont think so. If the Liberians more or less share the worldview of the Fon people of Benin (former Dahomey where I worked for six years) you will find that they believe in one god the creator of the universe. But he distanced himself from the world he created leaving the adminstration of this world in the hands of spirits. These people fear the spirits more than the creator. They sometimes refer to the spirits according to the punishments they can inflict. The spirit of water is a feared and a terrible spirit and they call it "mami wata". You will see this half a beautiful lady and half fish. According to david Hesselgrave, the worldview of a people is so strong that it influences many things: The worldviews (ways of perceiving the world) influences the Cognitive processes (the ways of thinking) which in turn influences the Linguistic forms (ways of expressing ideas) which in turn influences the behavioral patterns (ways of acting) which in turn influences the social structures (ways of interacting) which in turn influences the media influence (ways of chanelling the message) which in turn influences the motivational resources (ways of deciding). So they may look at us as ignorant because we dont grasp their world view and they laugh at us as we laugh at them. All the best On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Gilbert Adibo wrote: Bwanaas!! I have failed to define this ignorance thing!! Jopo, do not find an excuse for an excessive consumption of that "cleverly" manufactured water!! Its only that I have failed to exactly define this ignorance thing. Perhaps Fr. Ruffino could help me out. Gilberto On 26/02/2009, Robert Ejiku wrote: Gilbert, Are you implying we should continue drinking alcohol to be ahead of the treatment regimes?? So when I visit Okokoro top life, all I need will be this 'iribini' blood (green snake blood). You could make people to start killing snakes and storing the blood in bottles next to 'enguli' (waragi). What do you think will be the perception of people when you are seen running around chasing snakes in Okokoro?? While it was normal in Wati (the behind), many years back,my friend you can't escape the verdict of guilty as charged. Ejiku. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:37 PM, Gilbert Adibo wrote: Dear Members, In rural Vietnam treatment of malaria is done using a mixture of Snake blood ( particularly the green, "iribini" species) and aclcohol! Does this tantamount to ignorance?? Gilbert On 26/02/2009, Ruffino Ezama wrote: Dear Robert I send you long distance greetings from east africa to west africa. It is not easy to pin a quick reason to what you described. But anthropology (the study of human beings) more so cultural anthropology will explain to us that a belief system of a people is the hardest thing to die in a person. In this case it is what the french call "memoire collective" (collective memory shared by a big number of any population). Let us go into the way this people perceive the world (worldview/worldvision) and try to understand death. If there is something which can cause immediate death then there is cause of alarm. Otherwise some aafricans will defy a veterinary doc who says if you eat the meat of this dead animal you will have your life span reduced by 30 mins. That is nothing for them. But immediate death needs to be avoided at any cost. Can education help one out of that? I ever met even professors in some western african countries where vodoo is strong believe in traditional sacrifices. others believe that this belief helps them out in the present world and belief in Christ etc for the next world. Back home in west nile i find that it is over ten years that before believe in something called "mazi" (magic) where numbers appear on people according to the order of which a greedy person approaches the devil and offers some of his/her people as a sacrifice to the devil. There is a ritual of how to resolve that. When you tell such people not to follow such a ritual you get answers such as "I le ma mva ma dra?"
RE: [WestNileNet] St Josephs day 21/03/2009
Jambo Alaka, Sorry i have been out of touch and travelling. With 123 unread inbox material. Alaka, that should be your question posed in Ombaci where you have been invited by Patrick O. But just in case you need what to expect - look for the words "hydrocarbon". Paraffin (Lighter) and Diesel (denser than) are both hydrocarbons characterised by the general formular CnH2n+2. Though there is now Biodiesel with probably an "O" somewhere. So you used to have mixture but no resulting rxn. So no new formular men or perhaps the formular is "paraffin and diesel" in layman's. So prove that the OBs do remember this and make no mistake - they will get challenged by your aging brain capacity. If i may recall, the common hydrocarbon fuels we have range from n=6 to n=12. Good quiz for OBs day and let's get on with the role model easier and any time that you get West Nile. Make sure you reach Arua Demonstration P.7 School (atleast arrange on morning parade time) to cheer them up. Take Care - i hope you won't make pupils /students feel that is the mixture which produces an LLB degree. Otherwise the dangers of pollutants like carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides (NOx), Sulpur Oxides etc are known to affect the brain negatively. Its clear Jungle in the day and sleep in the night except if you are a transparent Majueng. Best regards, RObetia Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:27:25 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] St Josephs day 21/03/2009 Colleagues, when I got a personal invitation from the Chairman SJCOBA , the Erudite Eng. Okuni for the Oscars and more so when he graciously offered me a special guest status, I felt humbled and appreciative. I even suggested to get time to be in Arua for St Josephs day on the 21/03/2009. God willing I will be there. The point is probably non of our followers and younger ones in all the West Nile schools imagine that some of us went through the same institutions as they are now in. Over the weekend I wanted Eng. Obetia to explain to me the Chemical formula of mixing paraffin with diesel in a hurricane lamp. Eng. what is such a mixture referred to. Well this is what we used during our times. I remember we had no Electricity, bore holes e.t.c in Mvara but we did produce the Adibo's, Acidri's Ejiku's, Ayibo's, Dr. Richard, Dr. Aritua, Alia Valary's, Eng.Ezati's, Jimmy Adriko's, Stevo's, several medical doctors, educationists, the Alaka's e.t.c. Probably the current Ombaci students may not even know that the Andema's, butagira's Draecabo's, Andua Drani's ,Okuni's , Obetia's, Ezaga's, Ngaka's, Idoru's, Matenga's, Eyoki's, Ori's and Azabo's and other notable Ob's were at one time like them. When Azabo talks of self belief, I believe this should be one of the first prescriptions we should administer on these students. Let them know that we were just like them and the difference is that we believed as Obama did that yes we could and they should get the same mentality. Hope all SJOBA members and well-wishers should turn up en mass. This is How SMACK o.B's Psyche up the students. next time a list of who is who amongst all Ob's and og's should be compiled and sent to these schools to Psyche these souls up. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Task -force- Short term efforts for consideration
ry of the last time has occurred. Ejiku. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 11:16 AM, robert obetia wrote: Jambo Alaka, Sorry i have been out of touch and travelling. With 123 unread inbox material. Alaka, that should be your question posed in Ombaci where you have been invited by Patrick O. But just in case you need what to expect - look for the words "hydrocarbon". Paraffin (Lighter) and Diesel (denser than) are both hydrocarbons characterised by the general formular CnH2n+2. Though there is now Biodiesel with probably an "O" somewhere. So you used to have mixture but no resulting rxn. So no new formular men or perhaps the formular is "paraffin and diesel" in layman's. So prove that the OBs do remember this and make no mistake - they will get challenged by your aging brain capacity. If i may recall, the common hydrocarbon fuels we have range from n=6 to n=12. Good quiz for OBs day and let's get on with the role model easier and any time that you get West Nile. Make sure you reach Arua Demonstration P.7 School (atleast arrange on morning parade time) to cheer them up. Take Care - i hope you won't make pupils /students feel that is the mixture which produces an LLB degree. Otherwise the dangers of pollutants like carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxides (NOx), Sulpur Oxides etc are known to affect the brain negatively. Its clear Jungle in the day and sleep in the night except if you are a transparent Majueng. Best regards, RObetia Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:27:25 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] St Josephs day 21/03/2009 Colleagues, when I got a personal invitation from the Chairman SJCOBA , the Erudite Eng. Okuni for the Oscars and more so when he graciously offered me a special guest status, I felt humbled and appreciative. I even suggested to get time to be in Arua for St Josephs day on the 21/03/2009. God willing I will be there. The point is probably non of our followers and younger ones in all the West Nile schools imagine that some of us went through the same institutions as they are now in. Over the weekend I wanted Eng. Obetia to explain to me the Chemical formula of mixing paraffin with diesel in a hurricane lamp. Eng. what is such a mixture referred to. Well this is what we used during our times. I remember we had no Electricity, bore holes e.t.c in Mvara but we did produce the Adibo's, Acidri's Ejiku's, Ayibo's, Dr. Richard, Dr. Aritua, Alia Valary's, Eng.Ezati's, Jimmy Adriko's, Stevo's, several medical doctors, educationists, the Alaka's e.t.c. Probably the current Ombaci students may not even know that the Andema's, butagira's Draecabo's, Andua Drani's ,Okuni's , Obetia's, Ezaga's, Ngaka's, Idoru's, Matenga's, Eyoki's, Ori's and Azabo's and other notable Ob's were at one time like them. When Azabo talks of self belief, I believe this should be one of the first prescriptions we should administer on these students. Let them know that we were just like them and the difference is that we believed as Obama did that yes we could and they should get the same mentality. Hope all SJOBA members and well-wishers should turn up en mass. This is How SMACK o.B's Psyche up the students. next time a list of who is who amongst all Ob's and og's should be compiled and sent to these schools to Psyche these souls up. Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Maracha Terego District
Dear Alaka, Then tell those people to take their meeting to Okokoro. It is also the best location for HQ. Atleast Ejiku, Mundua, Vasco, Afema, Drate, Eyoki, Titus, Oyulu, Idoru and Ezaga, as well as the entire WestNileNet will agree with me on that. If you bother to know why, the answers will follow later. He he he. RObetia Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 04:56:18 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Maracha Terego District On Friday, the 27th day of March 2009, Justice Kibuka Musoke of the High Court of Uganda delivered his Judgment on Maracha Terego District. The Judge nullified and quashed the decision of the Minister of Local Government declaring Nyadri as the Headquarter and name of the new district. The Judge prohibited any administrative structures set up in Nyadri as a result of the Ministers decision. The Judge remitted the matter of naming the District and finding a location of its Headquarters to the Councilors who used to represent sub counties from Maracha and Terego in Arua District. He Ordered the Electoral Commission to convene a meeting of these councilors within twenty one days from the date of Judgment so that vote on the location and name of the new district after which they could elect their interim Chairperson. The meeting is to be in any place in Maracha or Terego but not Nyadri and Kubala. Guys this is an opportunity for us to get a well planned District. Forget about politics. We terego's and maracha's are one people. let our councilors get a vast land any where whether in Kijomoro, Ovujo, Omugo, Katri, Aripea, or even in the Boarder of Maracha and Congo. we should not rush for trading centers which are congested, have land wrangles and cannot be well planned. _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Maracha Terego District
Alaka, The same way that parliament easily passed "the law or what ever it is called" is the same way they can be made to reverse it. I do not see it as difficult to undo as Newton's Laws that not even the vatican can undo - for the apple will always fall down. Maracha and Terego can become Arua. Why district? My experience working with LGs in Uganda is that it is better if focus is put in strengthening Sub-counties in service delivery than otherwise. RObetia Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 05:30:39 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Maracha Terego District Gilbert, I entirely concur with you. the inception of this idea of a new district curved out of Arua District was premised on a wrong intention. the proponents achieved their objective which was to tear two perceived powerful opposition strong holds and divide them for ever, However, since Parliament had already established the new district, we can't undo the same. It is now difficult to back track. That is why I believe sober people who are not myopic should try to influence a location which should serve us for posterity. We need a vast unoccupied land. whether in Lokira godo, Leju, or any where. People should forget about the negative attitudes their Members of Parliament have exhibited. You know, some of them wanted to hold us hostage and thumb their chests as the ones who have divinely delivered for the electorates a district. But they may be embarrassed. Can you imagine the tragicomedy of leaders not shaking hands because of an earthly thing like a district for which none of them may even be remembered for. Who knows the founder of Arua District amongst us. Such pride has never been allowed by God. For us the e-generation and the golden lads from West Nile, let us not allow such petty issues to DIVIDE US. _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Okokoro
BINGO! RObetia Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:45:07 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Okokoro Eng Obetia, Having been a resident of the Central Region for a whole decade and without importing any cultural colonialism, I prefer Okokoro. Kubala in Luganda means to count, How can I tell top Kampala lawyers that I hail from a district whose meaning is how to count. It will show that I am devoid of simple arithmetic's. Then If it is Nyadri, they will ask me the meaning and I will tell them that the thing is akin to a grave oh no that cant be my district. Okokoro sounds poetic and nigerish not so? or I believe it should be our old prison 'Arua'. _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Okokoro
Okuti, That also sounds like was derived from the combination of letters from your name and Akokoro. Ok .. okoro. Now i know why you picked on this. Regards, RObetia in K'la From: ok...@asili.co.ug To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Okokoro Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 18:09:58 +0300 Ha! Now that was quite humorous J Sounds like we shall be copying Akokoro County in Apac? Regards From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Caleb Alaka Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:45 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: [WestNileNet] Okokoro Eng Obetia, Having been a resident of the Central Region for a whole decade and without importing any cultural colonialism, I prefer Okokoro. Kubala in Luganda means to count, How can I tell top Kampala lawyers that I hail from a district whose meaning is how to count. It will show that I am devoid of simple arithmetic's. Then If it is Nyadri, they will ask me the meaning and I will tell them that the thing is akin to a grave oh no that cant be my district. Okokoro sounds poetic and nigerish not so? or I believe it should be our old prison 'Arua'. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.34/2032 - Release Date: 03/31/09 06:02:00 _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party.
Hello All, I may not be a Lu... though from Arua, (Or is it Nyadr.. or Ma /Te?). Forgetting where i belong but atleast the larger picture is clearer - West Nile. Alaka, you and i were one time attempting to form a WENSA (1995). I hope to see any of you - may be around DMOs ...? In town (K'la) for a few days. Regards RObetia Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:09:43 -0700 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] MASU Finalist and Hand Over Party. From: ejikurob...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Caleb, I beleive judging from the reactions from this forum, it must now open up to westnile or better still to cover the entire former Arua. How you phrase it is now to be thought out but definately not LUSU or something that suggests Lugbara bse Arua has always been more than that and even presently it is big culturally. Over to you then. Ejiku. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Caleb Alaka wrote: Hi, Over the weekend, I and Eng. Okuni represented the rest of you at this years Makerere Arua Students Union Finalist and Hand Over party. The Chief Guest was non other than Uncle Tom Buruku. Before he took to the podium, Dr. Isaac Ezaati the Patron MASU unveiled uncle Tom in a manner that could make the Queen of England bow to the occasion. He told us to look at Tom Buruku, Obitre Gama, Joseph Etima, Dr. Eric Adriko, James Nyakuni as People who should inspire us and act as our role models.The Students seem to have gained actual focus. They addressed the issue of poor academic performance in West Nile, Land use and other factors. When I was given an opportunity to address them, I opined about the need to transform MASU to something similar to LUSU (Lugbara Students Union), LUMSA (Lubgara Makerere Students Association) or LUSDA (Lubgara Students Development Association. Why all this. MASU used to cover Arua which included Kobobo, Yumbe, Maracha, Terego, Ayivu, Madi Okollo, and Vura. Now we have Koboko District, Yumbe District, Maracha Terego District and Arua district which now has only Vura, Ayivu and Madi Okollo. So I thought we need to have a students association based on our cultural heritage. After all we have AMSA (Acholi Makerere Students Association), TESDA (Teso Students Development Association) Nkoba Zambogo (For Buganda) LASA (Lango Students Association) Basoga, and Banyakore etc students Association. This way we can salvage MASU since county based students Associations are being manipulated by selfish and egoistic Politicians who fear to meet a larger body of intellectuals and the students have almost bought the idea of being Vura, Ayivu, Terego, Madi Okollo, Maracha, Aringa e.t.c. Ya how do we conserve the Identity and Unity of our students? ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] barifa facts
It would be useful to know reasons /purpose and benefits for degazzetting if you want useful comments, opinions etc. Otherwise expect more "". I start with asking what options do you have to combine development within and around Arua (town) with a balanced ecosystem? Give us the Council's environmentally optimised plan for Barifa. Dont talk about relocation options because it never gets easily bought by many. Regards, RObetia Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2009 12:07:05 +0400 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] barifa facts From: adibo2...@gmail.com To: alit...@yahoo.com; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Dear Tom, Thank you for the useful info. Don't you think it would be nice for the Stadium to co-exist with the current Surrounding forest. Cheers! Gilbert On 09/04/2009, aliti candia wrote: --- Hi I want to inform members that Barifa Stadium and its surrounding perimeter shall remain a sports facility. It belongs to Arua District Local Government unlike the forest land which belongs to National forest authority. So the degazetting does not affect the stadium but only the forest for your information. Hope this information will help us make constructive comments to help us suggest a way forward.Tom Aliti ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Fwd: Documentation of Ideas discussed in the Forum
BINGO! You are right. Sometimes one gets lost and especially when issues are discussed under in-appropriate Subeject (Title). With 69 emails per day - real issues can easily be swept to the bin. RObetia From: kiggu...@kym.net To: WestNileNet@kym.net Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:30:27 +0300 CC: Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: Documentation of Ideas discussed in the Forum Begin forwarded message: From: Vasco Oguzua Date: April 21, 2009 12:18:21 AM GMT+03:00 To: westnilenet-ow...@kym.net Subject: Documentation of Ideas discussed in the Forum Ataanzi dika vini Ataaezo, I think the suggestion of documenting the salient points of the discussions we have on the forum Ronald Okuonzi is a great idea. Infact one of our sisters had already suggested this idea sometime back early March if I am not mistaken. I commend Joel Arumadri Alimo'dua for accepting the challenge to document some of the key ideas and/or suggestions. However, based on my observations on the nature and kind of the discussions we have on the forum, other than the issue of Poor Performance in our schools, non of the other issues we have discussed on the forum was ever conclusive. To our advantage, the poor performance in our schools issue coincided with or was within the time frame of the Ombaci (and I believe Mvara) Old Boys reunion occasion(s), as such that issue was addressed formally during those function(s) (if I am not mistaken someone can correct me on this). Documenting the discussion on the forum will not be an an easy task who Arumadri. The difficulty I express in in terms of my observation of the various issues we discuss almost at the same time and we never have a conclusive discussion on the issues we have discussed. The examples being, the Matego district issue, the loss of our brother in the hand of URA Officers in Koboko, the Barifa Land issue. In my view there was never a conclusive discussion on these issues we have discussed at length on the forum. To make the documentation of the discussions easier for documentation, I would like to suggest that for every issue or concern introduced in the forum for discussion, there should be a moderator who follows and moderates the discussion to its exhaustion. Secondly, we should try to discuss one issue at a time and come up with a conclusive agreeable actionable points so that salient points of the discussion are documented with a final overall summary of the discussion. It is also my view that we should take this forum very seriously to specifically talk about issues affecting our region and other issues from outside of the region should be something relevant or ideas which are relevant and applicable to the development of our region. I am saying this because I think I have read some irrelevant news and blogs on the forum. In terms of the available server storage space the network has allocated to the forum, such irrelevant blogs are absolute waste of resources. If we had a moderator, then such people who post such information should kindly be requested or redirected to stick to the issue in discussion. Lastly, perhaps Joel Arumadri who has volunteered to help can tell us, advise us or suggest to us how he thinks we can make the documentation of the discussions in the forum easier for him. I hope we can truly try to be a little better organized in this endeavour. I believe , "YES WE CAN". Windows Live Messenger makes it easier to stay in touch - learn how! -- Acta Virum Probant -- Kiggundu Mukasa KYM-NET LTD. Plot 80 Kanjokya Street P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda Tel: +256 772 972255 +256 414 571779 Fax: +256 312 262122 http://kym.net _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: West Nile Chamber of Coomerce
Ocatre, Hmnn! So what exactly is this "change in land use". Dots of houses on 25decimal pieces to be sold with(out) proposals - and rushed for? Or any grand plan in the vision of Council? Any graphical perspective of this vision if any? Any idea that the change will bring major transformation in the value of Arua Municipal - economically while increasing the beauty of it or attraction thereof? Any opportunity for the public to see graphically or the wriitten of the proposed change for suggestions? Any idea of disposal procedures for this facility for development - based on proposals to be presented /vetted or will it be the usually "sketch an area and draw lines/boundaries" and allocate? Not a physical or urban planner but if given chance would say any attempt to degazette this area should give Arua a true beautiful green commercial environ, in which case proposals with threshold that meet the criteria of taxable economic, green and scenenically attractive sense are prioritised. Lee - i am not talking about complexes in the name of Inzi etc here but plans with real potential growth. Neither am i stopping your dream. But you, alaka, i etc combined under a name could easily put one Mvara-corner Casino where Findru (Mvara's known Barifa Star)can turn his energy into real cash for a holiday at DMOs Jinja rd point - serves nice UG. RObetia Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 06:22:09 + From: ocatre...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: West Nile Chamber of Coomerce To: westnilenet@kym.net Dear Vasco and Jimmy, I have some idea on this is of land use change of Barifa. First and foremost, Arua Municipal council was requested to provide and alternative site if Barifa has to be degazetted. To this effect they have made significant strides and have found the alternative in Logiri that used to be part of Mr.Oguda's farm in Kaza. Further Municipal council need to show evidence that they have purchased the land and they have the title which they are currently following up with surveys department in Entebbe. EIAs have to be done for both sites. What wsa submitted as EIA for Barifa was a rapid assessement and this is yet to be completed with attaching the physical planning for thedevelopment of the area. Barifa stadium will not be affected and will be developed into a modern stadium hopefully. Besides not all of the trees will be cleared because part of the recommendation is to leave some sections especially along Asa river as required by national regulations. I may not be an authority and can not speak for Arua Municipal council but I have some ideas on that. Hope this will throw some light. Regards Ocatre Robert From: Jimmy Adriko To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Wednesday, 8 April, 2009 17:22:18 Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: West Nile Chamber of Coomerce Vasco, I believe one of our members will give you full story of relocation of Barifa Forest . What I know is arrangement have been made to shift the forest to Logiri in Vurra county. Environmental Impact assessment was done by competent people and agreements between the municipality and National Forest Authority who owns Barifa land that they have been using for what they call Peri-Urban plantation. Jimmy Adriko From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Vasco Oguzua Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 5:03 PM To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: West Nile Chamber of Coomerce Hello Folks, I am not conversant with the Barifa Land issue. However, I may be wrong, but I think Barifa was a Forest Reserve (perhaps with the alarming deforestation in the region, the trees may all be gone), and I believe Barifa was (is - not sure) also the location for our district sports activities (soccer and athletics field which has produced likes of Ayikoru, Govule, Evelyn Adiru, Inzikuru and others I may not have mentioned to national and international athletes which I thought was a very positive national and international image of our sons and daughters. Now when the talk of Barifa land for housing development arises, I am wondering and asking myself which Barifa folks are talking about. In my two unsure assumptions are correct, we have a conflicting land-use issue to address as regards Barifa land. We equally need to protect our green vegetation to reduce land degradation as we equally need a housing estate. On the other hand we equally need to develop our sports and athletics facility for the future generation because economic development must go hand in hand with human development, and sports and athletics is very essential in developing the human body and mind. Mind you there days sports is an industry which if developed carefully is very lucrative in economic returns. So my wonder is has the Mayor (town council) or the (district council) done any land-use assessment and plan of the town or area for pro
RE: [WestNileNet] Orijabo: To "Unsubscribe" = "lost the Seed" = "Orijabo"
Mgba, Know that by unsubscribing we will have "lost the seed" that had been found. Just delete those you do not think you want read - i.e. suspect that it is not subject of interest and delete. This is called the trial and error method which is acceptable statistically. Sampling for deletion can sometimes be eased by your experience of which addressess bring air, junck or what ever never interests you. Have good evening. RObetia Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:51:29 + From: orij...@yahoo.co.uk To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Unsubscribe Hello IT manager..Please assist and direct me on how to unsubscribe from this address...I am getting bombarded with the same mail and my nature of engagement does not give me the privilage of contributing to the forum. Thanks alot Orijabo Albert Senior Engineer Water Arua District Local Government P. O. Box 1, Arua UGANDA Tel: +25647620122;Mob:+25678566535 --- On Fri, 24/4/09, ROGER OPIGO wrote: From: ROGER OPIGO Subject: Fwd: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 110 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Friday, 24 April, 2009, 3:40 PM -- Forwarded message -- From: ROGER OPIGO Date: Apr 24, 2009 5:37 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 8, Issue 110 To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Hey John, Your deliberations look quiet awesome. There is another crucial issue I was requesting you include on some of the hot topics and that is the issue of refforestation or a massive campaign to plant trees across the sub region given the rapid expansion of the sahara southwards, the bursting population and also the negative effects of economic activity. Regards, Roger Opigo On 4/24/09, JohnAJackson wrote: Moderating our discussions Ladies and gentlemen, Let us use this forum like a real meeting with an agenda. Let's exhaust an issue and then move to the next issues. This will give us coherent and consitency for documenting the commends Mr. Arumadri has voluntered to help with. Here is a list of Hot Topics for discussion: 1) Closure of Primary School in Koboko District 2) Migration of Walalu Pastoralist in Wet Nile 3) Barifa Forest demarcation for development 4) Relocation of Arua Prison out of the City or Town 5) Matego District Issue 6) Electiricity & Power development 7) Poor Performance in Schools in West Nile, Task Force (TF) Working on this now. Waiting for feed back. 8) AOB I would like to volunteer to moderate discussion on School Closure for TWO WEEKS (2). May I ask anyone or evereyone who has a commend to post their commend(s) on school closure. Let us exhaust this one item so that recommendations/suggestions are documented. Suggestions: a) Does the Department of Inspectorate, Ministry of Education have guide lines for opening schools? b) What operating conditions are acceptable in the Elementary/Secondary schools? c) Who should be authorized to open a school? d) What conditions do we want to see in a good school? e) Is quantity of schools better than the qaulity? f) etc Kindly post your commends within two weeks (2). Finish this topic and move to next. Let us have a structured and well organized discussion. Thank your for your commends and suggstions John J Avudria On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:10 AM, wrote: Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to westnilenet@kym.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to westnilenet-requ...@kym.net You can reach the person managing the list at westnilenet-ow...@kym.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Fw: [Webcast] UN Webcast Live Schedule for Friday,24 April 2009 + UN Channel on YouTube videos (Kadara Kursum) -- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:09:12 + (GMT) From: Kadara Kursum Subject: [WestNileNet] Fw: [Webcast] UN Webcast Live Schedule for Friday, 24 April 2009 + UN Channel on YouTube videos To: West Nile Net Message-ID: <565353.31693...@web28215.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, --- On Thu, 23/4/09, Webcast-DPI wrote: From: Webcast-DPI Subject: [Webcast] UN Webcast Live Schedule for Friday, 24 April 2009 + UN Channel on YouTube videos To: webc...@secint00.un.org, missi...@un.int Date: Thursday, 23 April, 2009, 11:01 PM View today's archived videos at: http://www.un.org/webcast/2009.html UN Webcast Live Schedule for Friday, 24 April 2009: http://www.un.org/webcast Channel 1 10:00am Security Council: The situation in Chad, the Central African Republic and the subregion. Report of the Secretary-General on the United Nations Mission in the Central African Repu
RE: [WestNileNet] Clogging of Inboxes - Is the reason why moderation is being discussed.
Hello TX and all, I think Kigs did the best for you. Without bouncing your inputs to others thru their emails, i believe they will not easily be read. How many of you go purposely to open a website to contribute or find info as regular as this westnilenet-bounces from kigs kym.net. TX, it must be good to knock on your inbox as a reminder to this community service. Except we should find a way of aligning discussions along their relevant subjects. Then one knows what he wants and treats others with the proper boolean function e.g /:. RObetia Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:32:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Clogging of Inboxes From: tamb...@gmail.com To: stevoasum...@yahoo.com; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Dear all, I think we need to relook at the whole stuff! We create a website and have a public dialogue window for people to read about and respond to topical issues. This way, we dont miss anything, we appreciate our concerns and at the same not congest the individuals' inbox. On the issue of school closure, I think that was a constructive destruction! Health of pupils must be priority and the stakeholders should either do the right thing or get kids to better schools.We must not compromise on quality in everything we do. TX _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE
Xavi and RAnguzu, The 2 sides of the coin from Xavier and Anguzu. In probability we used to have the head (H) or the tail (T) when it is tossed. Technically no body talks about the side elevation (E) thin though may be useful to note. Xavia and RAnguzu, that (elevation) is the view i am looking for. The "Elevation", in a graphic perspective where i can imagine how Barifa will look or is supposed to look when both your development concern ( (H)ead of coin) and another's environmental concern ((T)ail of the coin) are merged. The monitor article mentioned business centre, malls etc but that didn't come out complete coz it looked like wish list. This side (E of the coin) does not just seperate the H and T but actually joins them together and that is the most important thing (Join them). And by the way i am more interested in not how the coin will be tossed but can it also fall my way - or just a bit of it? Hahaa just a little cut for "Mvara Corner something" so as to maintain the heritage of names that were stars of this corner like Findru, Atandu, Kodra, Adua, etc if we can not maintain most of the trees Barifa. Best regards and take care, RObetia Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:38:35 + From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net Hello, I appreciate your concern on environmental conservation. Arua District has got qualified environmentalists and I am quite certain that, an environmental impact assessment for this project was done.( I beg to be corrected) This Barifa issue has been on going for quite some time now. Both NFA and NEMA are stakeholders, and ought to be knowing what is happening. I think it is only fair to have some basic details about such subjects before drawing conclusions or attacking people. You may probably be right; but do you have any evidence to prove that an alternative has never been sought to relocate barifa or conserve our environment? The Daily Monitor story as I read, made no mention on complaints regarding environmental concerns and improper procedure. But complaints from some people(residents) who felt left out in the process of degazetting. Better still, you want to conserve environment for a good cause.(helping mankind). Our people destroy forests mainly for wood fuel. What alternative source of fuel/energy have you provided for the many poor people in villages? What should our people who traditionally know wood fuel as the only source of energy say for cooking and curing tobacco use for the meantime as fuel with view of preserving the environment. Am not against any thing but; please, provide alternatives as is the case in other countries. The law then can take its course. What people need are not good suggestions that are beyond their reach but realistic alternatives. I hope I've not generated another debate. Cheers Xavier --- On Mon, 4/5/09, ranguzu wrote: From: ranguzu Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 9, Issue 6 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 12:32 PM Dear all I am extremely perturbed by the Monitor story on the degazetting of barifa forest reserve for construction. I just wonder whether or not there are enviromentalists among the Municipal Council Officials in Arua District. Development is not only about construction of buildings. It also takes into account enviornmental concerns. The district and municipal leadership are well aware that Arua district is slowly turning into a desert, thanks to the reckless behaviour of the population in destroying trees, and lack of guidance and enforncement of the law by the authorities. Arua district is one of drought prone areas, which needs protection - in terms of natural resource management and conservation. I think the President was right to stop the degazetting the forest. Regards Robert Anguzu On Mon, 4 May 2009 12:00:04 +0300 (EAT), westnilenet-request wrote > Send WestNileNet mailing list submissions to > westnilenet@kym.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > westnilenet-requ...@kym.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > westnilenet-ow...@kym.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of WestNileNet digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >1. Barifa Forest Reserve in the News & A New Website forWest > Nile Discussion Forum (ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk) > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 21:13:18 + (GMT) > From: ayiko...@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: [WestNileNet] Barifa Forest Reserve in the News & A New > Website forWest Nile Discussion Forum > To: westnilenet@kym.net > Message-ID: <596526.1486...@web27206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> >
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE
Andema, That is the reason why i'm asking if the coin (Barifa) will fall my way, assuming i am already or want to be a stakeholder. If it does i will be happy about seeing how it was tossed and call the process "transparent" (as "change" champions advocate on behalf of the residents). But obviously it would be nice to participate in tossing Barifa as an environmentally optimised development plan while maintaining the heritage and stake of the westniler to the extent possible. Warm regards. RObetia Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:01:26 -0700 From: andema...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net Hi, I really like the scientific jokes Engineer Obetia throws into the debate. Engineer, you have talked about the "Head" the "tail" and the elevation sides of the coin. You forgot to mention the forth aspect which in linguistic startistics would bring in the probability of the tossed coin getting lost leaving us with the dilema of not knowing which side the coin fell on. Isn't that probability not there? Thanks. Sam Andema --- On Tue, 5/5/09, robert obetia wrote: From: robert obetia Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: "F. Xavier Drani" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 4:53 PM Xavi and RAnguzu, The 2 sides of the coin from Xavier and Anguzu. In probability we used to have the head (H) or the tail (T) when it is tossed. Technically no body talks about the side elevation (E) thin though may be useful to note. Xavia and RAnguzu, that (elevation) is the view i am looking for. The "Elevation", in a graphic perspective where i can imagine how Barifa will look or is supposed to look when both your development concern ( (H)ead of coin) and another's environmental concern ((T)ail of the coin) are merged. The monitor article mentioned business centre, malls etc but that didn't come out complete coz it looked like wish list. This side (E of the coin) does not just seperate the H and T but actually joins them together and that is the most important thing (Join them). And by the way i am more interested in not how the coin will be tossed but can it also fall my way - or just a bit of it? Hahaa just a little cut for "Mvara Corner something" so as to maintain the heritage of names that were stars of this corner like Findru, Atandu, Kodra, Adua, etc if we can not maintain most of the trees Barifa. Best regards and take care, RObetia Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:38:35 + From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net Hello, I appreciate your concern on environmental conservation. Arua District has got qualified environmentalists and I am quite certain that, an environmental impact assessment for this project was done.( I beg to be corrected) This Barifa issue has been on going for quite some time now. Both NFA and NEMA are stakeholders, and ought to be knowing what is happening. I think it is only fair to have some basic details about such subjects before drawing conclusions or attacking people. You may probably be right; but do you have any evidence to prove that an alternative has never been sought to relocate barifa or conserve our environment? The Daily Monitor story as I read, made no mention on complaints regarding environmental concerns and improper procedure. But complaints from some people(residents) who felt left out in the process of degazetting. Better still, you want to conserve environment for a good cause.(helping mankind). Our people destroy forests mainly for wood fuel. What alternative source of fuel/energy have you provided for the many poor people in villages? What should our people who traditionally know wood fuel as the only source of energy say for cooking and curing tobacco use for the meantime as fuel with view of preserving the environment. Am not against any thing but; please, provide alternatives as is the case in other countries. The law then can take its course. What people need are not good suggestions that are beyond their reach but realistic alternatives. I hope I've not generated another debate. Cheers Xavier --- On Mon, 4/5/09, ranguzu wrote: From: ranguzu Subject: [WestNileNet] Re: WestNileNet Digest, Vol 9, Issue 6 To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Monday, 4 May, 2009, 12:32 PM Dear all I am extremely perturbed by the Monitor story on the degazetting of barifa forest reserve for construction. I just wonder whether or not there are enviromentalists among the Municipal Council Officials in Arua District. Development is not only about construction of buildings. It also takes into account enviornmental concerns. The district and municipal leadership are well aware that Arua district is slowly turning into a desert, thanks to the rec
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE
My dear We all know that Chelsea won the game but Barca proceeded to the finals. RObetia Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 13:42:40 -0700 From: ayibo...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net You man . Its late and Chelsea just lost. When do you sleel i fyou are in our Banana republic? --- On Wed, 5/6/09, robert obetia wrote: From: robert obetia Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: "Sam Andama" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 10:28 AM Andema, That is the reason why i'm asking if the coin (Barifa) will fall my way, assuming i am already or want to be a stakeholder. If it does i will be happy about seeing how it was tossed and call the process "transparent" (as "change" champions advocate on behalf of the residents). But obviously it would be nice to participate in tossing Barifa as an environmentally optimised development plan while maintaining the heritage and stake of the westniler to the extent possible. Warm regards. RObetia Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 11:01:26 -0700 From: andema...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net Hi, I really like the scientific jokes Engineer Obetia throws into the debate. Engineer, you have talked about the "Head" the "tail" and the elevation sides of the coin. You forgot to mention the forth aspect which in linguistic startistics would bring in the probability of the tossed coin getting lost leaving us with the dilema of not knowing which side the coin fell on. Isn't that probability not there? Thanks. Sam Andema --- On Tue, 5/5/09, robert obetia wrote: From: robert obetia Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: "F. Xavier Drani" , "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Tuesday, 5 May, 2009, 4:53 PM Xavi and RAnguzu, The 2 sides of the coin from Xavier and Anguzu. In probability we used to have the head (H) or the tail (T) when it is tossed. Technically no body talks about the side elevation (E) thin though may be useful to note. Xavia and RAnguzu, that (elevation) is the view i am looking for. The "Elevation", in a graphic perspective where i can imagine how Barifa will look or is supposed to look when both your development concern ( (H)ead of coin) and another's environmental concern ((T)ail of the coin) are merged. The monitor article mentioned business centre, malls etc but that didn't come out complete coz it looked like wish list. This side (E of the coin) does not just seperate the H and T but actually joins them together and that is the most important thing (Join them). And by the way i am more interested in not how the coin will be tossed but can it also fall my way - or just a bit of it? Hahaa just a little cut for "Mvara Corner something" so as to maintain the heritage of names that were stars of this corner like Findru, Atandu, Kodra, Adua, etc if we can not maintain most of the trees Barifa. Best regards and take care, RObetia Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 09:38:35 + From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: BARIFA ISSUE To: westnilenet@kym.net Hello, I appreciate your concern on environmental conservation. Arua District has got qualified environmentalists and I am quite certain that, an environmental impact assessment for this project was done.( I beg to be corrected) This Barifa issue has been on going for quite some time now. Both NFA and NEMA are stakeholders, and ought to be knowing what is happening. I think it is only fair to have some basic details about such subjects before drawing conclusions or attacking people. You may probably be right; but do you have any evidence to prove that an alternative has never been sought to relocate barifa or conserve our environment? The Daily Monitor story as I read, made no mention on complaints regarding environmental concerns and improper procedure. But complaints from some people(residents) who felt left out in the process of degazetting. Better still, you want to conserve environment for a good cause.(helping mankind). Our people destroy forests mainly for wood fuel. What alternative source of fuel/energy have you provided for the many poor people in villages? What should our people who traditionally know wood fuel as the only source of energy say for cooking and curing tobacco use for the meantime as fuel with view of preserving the environment. Am not against any thing but; please, provide alternatives as is the case in other countries. The law then can take its course. What people need are not good suggestions that are beyond their reach but realistic alternatives. I hope I've not generated another debate. Cheers Xavier --- On Mon, 4/5/09, ranguzu wrote: From: ranguzu Subject: [WestNileNet] R
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue
Barifa is just a small environment compared to the whole Arua/Westnile to mind so much about the forest of euclaptus trees. Euclaptus trees should be removed as they are environmetal disaster in West Nile. It causes lowering of the water table thus drying the land making difficult for other small species around it not thrive. Re-invent the forest so that new more friendly type of trees are generated there along side other environmentally friendly activities that add value to the forest. This does not mean degazeting. Degazete parts of your homesteads from kevera dumping grounds to grow more forests of mangoes, bamboo, cyprus, pine, moringa, Avocado, jacaranda. Let each of us subscribing to this network go or send seeds to plant atleast an equivalent 0.5 km long row of the above trees in westnile this year. At a spacing of 4 metre wide to allow merry drive between. That means 100 trees only. Save 2 beers per week and get 3 jacaranda seedlings + save 60 minutes internet time per week and get 3 mango seedlings and 1 hour extra rest with your spouse. By end of the rain season this year, you have saved the region with 100 trees. I will save 3 out of my six Heineken to night to take care of this week. Physical planners in your country went to sleep about 1971 or 1979 and may not yet be fully awake. Those who are waking up are chasing developers from the tail. If you think i'm lying read about Kla's northern bypass and Ebb road or even about Barifa, Bat valley of Arua, Osu etc. Discuss Warm regards RObetia Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:18:45 + From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue To: andema...@yahoo.co.uk; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Friends, Many thanks for all your thoughts on Barifa. I do not know when some of you last went to Arua. Many things have changed of recent. Do we actually know the boundaries of this Arua Municipal we are talking about or the current land size and population distribution per division? Yes some of us do know. Arua airfield belongs to CAA not the municipality. The former gaagaa area and these others you are asking to be re planed have owners who also think, you have no right to plan for them where ever you are. I have learnt that, the re-planning of the current town has been on going. This will address some of the issues relating to infrastructure etc. But it is not an easy task because some of these landlords cannot just let go of their land. There seems to have been some disagreement on both the aerial and ground surveys initially carried out. Again, I invite Mr. Bada to help on this. The design for expansion and extension of the current water system is ongoing. I think, the municipal authorities are trying to address some of these issues we are raising. Even if degazzetted, municipal will invite private developers to develop the area and not the council since they do not have the resources to do so. In the same vein, some one able out there too can pay off the landlords in such areas you've chosen to identify as slum and re-develop it. You only need to consult with the municipal to avoid being re-planned again in future. There are many good things happening out there which we either do not know or have just refused to appreciate. Some members of this forum are big time REAL investors in Arua. Get to know them and find out more about existing opportunities. For sure, these developments will not Wait for any body fantasying new york in Arua should the opportunity arise even today. Lets just keep our ears to the ground. Xavier --- On Fri, 8/5/09, samuel andema wrote: From: samuel andema Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, 8 May, 2009, 12:37 AM Dear brothers and sister, I have read all your submissions on the degazetting of Barifa forest and the planned development of Arua. I sincerely appreciate all your contributions. But I would like as to separate the degazetting of Barifa and the need for a planned developpment of Arua. In my view the need for a comprehensive development of plan for the whole of Arua District should not depend on whether or not Barifa is degazetted. With or without the degazetting of Barifa, the Arua has one of the fasted population growth rates in Uganda and possibly the Great Lack Regions. The rate at which people are buying pieces of land in different parts of the periurban areas and buliding on these pieces of land without provision for passage of roads, water pipes, electricity lines etc is extremely alarming. People are building on their small pieces of land without taking into consideration the need to provide for basic infrastructure. It is tyhis kind of situation which to me is most alarming. The expected modern facilities to be build at Barifa should not be an isolated case. In my view we should be talking about an over all strategic d
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue
Ladies and Gentlemen, Your support to bullet numbers 4 and 5 in mine of Frid, May 8, 2009 below is encouraging and welcome. So support Margaret, Nayenda and Andema in the pledge by enlisting your promise to the cause. Andema there are many places where to plant in addition to your home backyard. Yours, your parents and loved aunties' home backyards. Public places - schools, trading centres, road reserve (atleast 5-6 metres - ). Along the dusty road will help filter the dust from you home reducing the possibility of infections to the breathing system thus saving on use of common cough drugs. Enlist with planned estimates in numbers and types of trees so this network can monitor. I guess our IT gurus Kigs and Joel can easily design an online monitoring mechanism for trees you have planted. Enjoy your weekend but remember to sacrifice 2 bottles or calabashes of beer for 3 seedlings of sweet smell Jacaranda in WN, i did save 3 out 6 last nite. i'm safe with today's quota. Have fun. RObetia Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 23:08:43 +0200 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue From: odukuj...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net CC: Dear All, I love Robert's idea of each one of us doing something practical on our own before discussing public service. I would also like to plegde to cause at least 100 trees to be planted this year. Are there more people who would like to get on this project (although folks definately have lots of projects going on) for the sake of this network? Margaret On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM, robert obetia wrote: Barifa is just a small environment compared to the whole Arua/Westnile to mind so much about the forest of euclaptus trees. Euclaptus trees should be removed as they are environmetal disaster in West Nile. It causes lowering of the water table thus drying the land making difficult for other small species around it not thrive. Re-invent the forest so that new more friendly type of trees are generated there along side other environmentally friendly activities that add value to the forest. This does not mean degazeting. Degazete parts of your homesteads from kevera dumping grounds to grow more forests of mangoes, bamboo, cyprus, pine, moringa, Avocado, jacaranda. Let each of us subscribing to this network go or send seeds to plant atleast an equivalent 0.5 km long row of the above trees in westnile this year. At a spacing of 4 metre wide to allow merry drive between. That means 100 trees only. Save 2 beers per week and get 3 jacaranda seedlings + save 60 minutes internet time per week and get 3 mango seedlings and 1 hour extra rest with your spouse. By end of the rain season this year, you have saved the region with 100 trees. I will save 3 out of my six Heineken to night to take care of this week. Physical planners in your country went to sleep about 1971 or 1979 and may not yet be fully awake. Those who are waking up are chasing developers from the tail. If you think i'm lying read about Kla's northern bypass and Ebb road or even about Barifa, Bat valley of Arua, Osu etc. Discuss Warm regards RObetia Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 15:18:45 + From: fdr...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue To: andema...@yahoo.co.uk; westnilenet@kym.net CC: Friends, Many thanks for all your thoughts on Barifa. I do not know when some of you last went to Arua. Many things have changed of recent. Do we actually know the boundaries of this Arua Municipal we are talking about or the current land size and population distribution per division? Yes some of us do know. Arua airfield belongs to CAA not the municipality. The former gaagaa area and these others you are asking to be re planed have owners who also think, you have no right to plan for them where ever you are. I have learnt that, the re-planning of the current town has been on going. This will address some of the issues relating to infrastructure etc. But it is not an easy task because some of these landlords cannot just let go of their land. There seems to have been some disagreement on both the aerial and ground surveys initially carried out. Again, I invite Mr. Bada to help on this. The design for expansion and extension of the current water system is ongoing. I think, the municipal authorities are trying to address some of these issues we are raising. Even if degazzetted, municipal will invite private developers to develop the area and not the council since they do not have the resources to do so. In the same vein, some one able out there too can pay off the landlords in such areas you've chosen to identify as slum and re-develop it. You only need to consult with the municipal to avoid being re-planned again in future. There are many good things happening out there which we either do not know or have just refused to appreciate. Some members of this forum are big time REAL i
RE: [WestNileNet] Fwd: Proposed Names & Votes - DIS-AGREE with WeNEC's distortions
Dear All, I disagree. This is derailing us from the course. Why? - Purpose is not found in the name. But identity can be. I thought i have been helplessly watching some of you - overloading, demolishing, distorting and therefore causing technical failure leading to collapse of the IDENTITY OF PURPOSE anlready consolidating in this Network. You guys looking for a name? Name we already have? The name we already have in "WestNileNet" is just the best and arises from the PURPOSE of "West Nile Network". Its quick mention is what Kig has used in this web. It consolidates the Purpose and Identity of the WestNiler (by origin, relations, sympathy, hatred , etc). Your diversity in ideas, interests, locations etc in no way will make an easy lead to the type of organ i imagine that many of you are thinking about. This is not to say it is impossible. Before you realise it reduces to a handful, for the identity and purpose will have hidden in the mouthful of name which turns to another abbreviation and just another thing - another NGO, another This Network registered or not is already performing its purpose. The original issue about it as raised sometime back by Fr. Ruf was not an issue of name but creating some kind of formal organ or structure. A structure which one would imagine enables the Network to have kind of a secretariate to relay the issues that often coalesce in the Net to the community it intends to influence. If you want to kill this WestNileNet(work), then rename it. If you think i'am lying, find out how many WENRECOs, WENRUDOs, WENSAs, WEENEPs, WENRoberts, WENSams etc are out there and have by virtue of the "WestNile" in their names coalesced this level of attention. The best we can have is to get offshoots and cessessions from this network, positive creations that make use of the ideas there in. There we go on with WestNileNet. In the interest of Peace, the West Nile Election Commission (WeNEC) can withhold the results of the election below till further notice. RObetia From: kiggu...@kym.net To: WestNileNet@kym.net Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 10:28:52 +0300 CC: Subject: [WestNileNet] Fwd: Proposed Names & Votes Begin forwarded message: From: JohnAJackson Date: May 28, 2009 10:48:35 PM GMT+03:00 To: westnilenet-ow...@kym.net Subject: Proposed Names & Votes Proposed Names Proposed Name Votes West Nile Global Forum for Sustainable Development (WNGFSD) 15 West Nile Strategic Development Commission (WNSDC 1 West Nile Development Agency (WNDA) 1 Nile Development Initiative(NDI)" 1 Nile Community Development (NCD)" 0 Centre for Community Empowerment(CCE)" 0 Nile Community Empowerment Initiative (NCEI)" 0 West Nile Rural Development Agency 0 Please note: a) Organizations/companies change their names as deemed fit by various circumstances/opportunities. b) The new proposed names be considered as we progress Let's think also about the: a) Mision Statement b) Vision c) Goals/objectives As these ideas become clearer to all of us, we should be able to chooce the best name that fits. John J Avudria -- Acta Virum Probant -- Kiggundu Mukasa Serval Ltd. Plot 80 Kanjokya Street P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda Tel: +256 772 972255 +256 414 571779 Fax: +256 312 262122 http://serval.ug/ -- Acta Virum Probant -- Kiggundu Mukasa Serval Ltd. Plot 80 Kanjokya Street P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda Tel: +256 772 972255 +256 414 571779 Fax: +256 312 262122 http://serval.ug/ _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] IS IT ANOTHER NGO PHOBIA?
Hello JJA and all, Big thanks for that response - i was worried if i have thrown a rot. The fact is that a "name" or "rename" or "another name" doesn't necessarily define "who we are" nor does it give us "authority". I think that regardless of name, the "purpose" which proves and defines the value of our intentions would work better to tell why we are for who, thus branding us better or worse than any other network or forum or organisation out there. I'm very convinced that a rename is not necessary and that we are already branded in the current name of this network with a stronger sound of Identity. A name that is simply clear and not overloaded with language but actually identity. And our authority shall be derived from how much our "purpose" and "contributions" appeal to the target community, no matter how many formalities we go through. The community may go to various supermarket of ideas but will find some with geniune and fresh products or just best services. I guess we just need to set how we organise the shelves, lay out the selling space, counters and directions for the various goods and services, as well as how we source and dispose the services. Kigs will say the System Set up. I salute you for the enormous +ve contribution and hence the kilocalories that you expend on this course. I believe whereever you are, you have the ability to Set up that desired "System Setup". I pray that you make that your next Trajectory. Good on you, RObetia Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 17:52:15 -0700 From: javud...@gmail.com To: WestNileNet@kym.net CC: Subject: [WestNileNet] IS IT ANOTHER NGO PHOBIA? Hello Brothers and sisters, I will try to very brief. While bother Obetia may be rightly worried about the name thing..? If I remeber correctly, Fr. Rufino raised the question of "who are we". Correct me if I am wrong. The question arose out of how do we present the ideas/suggestions/recommendations we have been raising in regards to: a) Poor performance in schools b) Closing of school in Koboko c) Barifa Issue d) Poverty and High unemployement The challenge we have is: i) who should receive the points we have raised? ii) what authority do we have to raise these issues? who are we anyway? iii) If we do not have any kind of authority, will these ideas be accepted by the respective authorities in the region? I remember one of the team membes had suggested disseminating the summary points to radio stations. The consus was we should hold off until we are better organized. >From this point,Mr Andema proposed a name " West Nile Global Forum.. For our disccusion I posted the topic "Who we are? orbetter " Who are we? If we have difficulty in coming to a conclusion, why don;t we form an AD HOC COMMITTE to look into this? I have no doubts that WestNile Net is an excellent medium of communication for all of us. By no means should anyone attempt to pull people away for his/her self interest. This is "a micro parliament" where we should cherish our intellectual wealth,wisdom and diversity of ideas. John J Avudria _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue
Hello All Found this from a seminar on Energy and Climate Change, a presentation on the state of voluntary and compliance carbon markets. In 2008, developing countries received over $7B from the purchase of carbon credits and this capital could increase five-fold with the potential establishment of a US compliance cap and trade system. Start the tree planting tommorrow. RObetia Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 20:12:43 +0200 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue From: odukuj...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Hi Fr Ruffino, As everybody has said that is an excellent idea. As Sam has said I hope you can get this properly recorded and infect other parishes and priests. Incidentally, just a few days ago I watched a programme on CNN called Green Marriage - i dont remember if it was Indonesia (but one of those Asian Countries) - where planting trees is a condition for registering marriages and the couple is warned that if they ever get divorced they will have to plant more trees - was it hundred (sorry I also dont remember the numbers but it was definately more than on your marriage). The Church certainly has a robust network and authority up to the smallest Christian communities and their leaders to enforce this. If you can push this to the diocesan pastoral structures this would be great and I can see the West Nile green in a few years through Baptising green. Robert, Elly, Sam and all the rest who are yet to join the green campaign, we will also do our part in our individual ways. A blessed week to all. Margaret On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Florence Elva Ssereo wrote: Hi, Ruffino! Great idea, I do not baptise but find the idea excellent and will suggest it to the network of former YCSers so that each priest in their parish appeals to parents of baptised children and adults to the same. best regards Florence > Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 17:36:28 +0300 > Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Re: Barifa Issue > From: ruffino.ez...@gmail.com > To: westnilenet@kym.net > > Ma anvupi Margaret la > Azi mi gunya gunya. Thanks for that provocative e mail. > Two weeks ago I started a personal initiative inspired by a congolese > ethnic group where they plant a tree on the spot where the umbilical > cord of a newly child is planted. If that child was born during the > rain season, each rain season a mark is made on that tree so that the > child will know how old he/she is by counting the marks on the tree. > So I have been asking for each child brought for baptism a tree to be > planted on the day of baptism. Every month on the same date of baptism > another tree be planted and so on and so forth for one full year. > Ever since Easter Tuesday till today I have baptised 105 infants and > if 12 trees are promised to be planted I expect 1260 trees in 12 > months from today. My other colleague Fr Zema has baptised also over > 100. Last thursday the catechists of the 25 outstations of ombaci have > accepted to implement this. I hope to closely supervise and monitor > that it really is done. Our initial plan was to plant first fruit > trees and later we move to other trees such as teak in the second > year. > I expect to sell the idea to Bishop Fred Drandua, Bishop Obetia and > other religious leaders in West Nile. Lets join hands together. > Thumbs up for this practical idea. > > > > > On 5/9/09, Margaret Angucia wrote: > > Dear All, > > I love Robert's idea of each one of us doing something practical on our > > own before discussing public service. I would also like to plegde to cause > > at least 100 trees to be planted this year. Are there more people who would > > like to get on this project (although folks definately have lots of projects > > going on) for the sake of this network? > > Margaret > > > > On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:00 PM, robert obetia wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> - Barifa is just a small environment compared to the whole > >> Arua/Westnile to mind so much about the forest of euclaptus trees. > >> - Euclaptus trees should be removed as they are environmetal disaster > >> in West Nile. It causes lowering of the water table thus drying the > >> land > >> making difficult for other small species around it not thrive. > >> - Re-invent the forest so that new more friendly type of trees are > >> generated there along side other environmentally friendly activities > >> that > >> add value to the forest. This does not mean degazeting. > >> - Degazete parts of your homesteads from kevera dumping grounds to grow > >> more forests of mangoes, bamboo, cyprus, pine, moringa, Avocado, > >> jacaranda. > >> - Let each of us subscribing to this network go or send seeds to pl
RE: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings
Ha ha! Gentlemen, oh! sorry are there any Ladies in quarrel here too? You guys know that you will never avoid junk, spam, germs, including the unlabelled H?P?s. You dont have to go and look for H1P2 if you know WHO has declared certain places affected. Just get the appointment deleted from your schedule or itenary before visiting there. Plus you may always know that email from Sarah Fredah (claimed foreteller) is junk. Going to tell Sarah that i don't want your mail? Come-on, she sends it to me every week and i sweep them out during routine maintenance of of my mailbox. I advise you not to quarrel but develop the culture of routine maintainenance of the mail box and that will help you sweep out immediately any dangerous junks without feeling angered. No body will sweep it for you. Not Kigs. Do it yourself. You are obliged to read every little thing i post here. RObetia Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 05:33:51 -0700 From: highbarry...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings To: westnilenet@kym.net Dear motivated team members, Lets recall, the focus of this platform really to exchange valuable contributions brothers and sisters, we could also establish the do's and dont's of e-forumers (moderator), not at this stage to distract and attack personalities with 'bolox'' exchanges at this end i would like us to cease fire for 2days and check our e-mail trail to establish, where we started this forum, indeed I have read absolutely all the postings on this forum, i guess some are also learning the medium, others are experts, while some are yet to understand where.. we are like the ''me'' type. can i suggest we have a call conference its getting to far... I remain humble to all your suggestions. Godfrey --- On Fri, 6/12/09, Rogers Anguzu wrote: From: Rogers Anguzu Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings To: "'A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile'" Date: Friday, June 12, 2009, 3:06 PM Dear Majid and Kadara, If you will pay attention you will realize that you are the only two members who have kept on posting absolutely rubbish to this forum. I therefore suggest if members say your views are not welcome to the forum, please understand and unsubscribe so we can all leave in peace and harmony. Its okay if people don’t appreciate your contribution in something, just look harder and you will find people who appreciate you, therefore shape up or ship out! Members are these two still welcome in this club? At least I still need George Obitre, Amandua, and Ocatre in so if I have to choose, Majid and Kadara should be the ones to leave the forum. Don’t be bringing in that Human Rights crap, we at least I also have a right to choose what information should I access – an for the record I take this seriously Members please let us have your voice on this issue and we put this matter to rest. Cheers. From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Ocatre Robert Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:46 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings Dear Majid and westnilers, I totally agree with the rights of individuals and freedom of expression. One thing for sure we need to understand is to whom are you expressing yourself and are you sure what you have expressed suits the interest of the audience. We sincerely need to be mindful of what the audience are interested in. Dont the audience also have the right to get what suits their interest?. I am not one of the founder members and therefore not in position to say whether it was intended for any kind of posting. My understanding is for which I stand to be corrected that the net is meant for discussion on topical issues that would address development issues of the region. To be honest, of late I have earmarked some names and any posting from them I delete immediately without bothering to read. Regards From: Majid Alemi Junior To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Cc: ale...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, 12 June, 2009 14:20:42 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings the geneva convention protect the rights of individuals: the right to live, to life, freedom of expression, religion, disability,& many others. provocation of one sided must stop. justice for all. the forum are for all members. mebers do participate, but not have authority over others. better advice brothers and sisters via their private emails: not on public forum website. thank you once again for everyones co operation. over to brothers & sisters. unity are the road to success. together we stand. devided we fail. bravo. keep studying un charter. From: gerald matua To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:37:08 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] Restrictions on postings Dear Administrator, I share the same view wi
RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Restrictions on postings
Is that Shaggy? Thank God that you know there is no need biting what is not edible and thinking that you might still find a better part inside. Anguzu, fyi i delete 80% of emails i get without opening. It doesn't hut me for i have chosen to be on the web. Warm regards, Robert Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:14:41 -0700 From: sagar...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] RE: Restrictions on postings Me I actually spend most of my day deleting these posts than reading them. they make my day... just look at this below... ideal stress reliever! Saggy "rogers be serious to youself. to threatened people is acrime you should understand that. just keep quite if you dont have a good advise. be careful of what you write. remains on record. if you want to go, you unsubscribe. majid." Harry SagaraBullseye! Creative 82, Kiira Rd. Bukoto Tel. 0752445367 _ Show them the way! Add maps and directions to your party invites. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/events.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Self Control, No Quarrels, No Restrictions - Lets Talk about the Budget 2009/10
Ben Ayibo, I actually wanted you, Anguzu and perhaps Saggy to moderate on the subject of "Budget 2009/10 FY" and how it can influence WestNile. For instance let's examine this extract from the daily Monitor - To encourage value-addition and barley growing in Kapchorwa, Kabale, Kabarole and other parts of Uganda, the minister has reduced excise duty on beer produced, grown and malted in Uganda from 60 per cent to 40 per cent. The move is a continuation of an almost similar cut in the last budget in terms of percentage points. Where do you and I fall - guessing that we could soon read this as "to encourage belly growing in Moyo, Adjumani, Arua, Nebbi, ." coz never seen barley on WN soil though lots of it in WN bellies. I, Andema, Margeret and Nayenda pledged to sacrifice barley consumption for 0.5km of Jacaranda trees somewhere. I do not know how this duty change will affect. Warm Regards, RObetia From: robe...@hotmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] RE: Restrictions on postings Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:06:58 +0300 Is that Shaggy? Thank God that you know there is no need biting what is not edible and thinking that you might still find a better part inside. Anguzu, fyi i delete 80% of emails i get without opening. It doesn't hut me for i have chosen to be on the web. Warm regards, Robert Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 07:14:41 -0700 From: sagar...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] RE: Restrictions on postings Me I actually spend most of my day deleting these posts than reading them. they make my day... just look at this below... ideal stress reliever! Saggy "rogers be serious to youself. to threatened people is acrime you should understand that. just keep quite if you dont have a good advise. be careful of what you write. remains on record. if you want to go, you unsubscribe. majid." Harry SagaraBullseye! Creative 82, Kiira Rd. Bukoto Tel. 0752445367 See all the ways you can stay connected to friends and family _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] New Member
Hi Kigs, Could you add the following to the WestNileNet: Pamela Paparu : pamela.obe...@hotmail.com She was shocked at the scarcity of women on the executive of the newly proposed WNDA, and thus got highly motivated to join this humble cause. RObetia _ More than messages–check out the rest of the Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] TECHNOLOGY WINS OVER HISTORY TO END ".....SAGA"
Thanks Kigs I didn't read any of that lado bizness. So i am neither hurt nor happy about it or its fate. However i sensed how it was irritating many just from the subject of the mails. Last time i said maintain routinely your inbox. But when maintenace problem appears to be over and above for a particular aspect, yes you can redesign that part to solve the problem like what Kigs is going to do about Lado. Unless you properly design (scientifically) to get rid of Azi-tiku, West Nile will be prone to famine. Sorry for non Lugbara (or sorry, is it Lado) speakers - Azi tiku is a notorious weed found in low lying terrain with lot of ground moisture. I didn't study botanical names so bear with me in many ways. By the way Azitiku means (translates to) no progress in work . I knew that thinking and reading Lado is like Azitiku. Thank you Kigs for deciding to use your information technology skills to win over this Azitiku. So gentlemen, incorporate technology into the hunger project (may be by improved seeds as you have suggested, but also tools and skills training to maximise farming / yield). Then you will see revolution in Agricultural instead of one in Ladoism. I guess my suggestion is not too late. Regards RObetia From: kiggu...@kym.net To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: END OF LADO TOPIC Re: [WestNileNet] LADO SAGA Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:50:23 +0300 As the Administrator And after numerous pleas for this topic to end I am putting an end to the topic People who post about or on the top after 24 hours will be removed from the list! List Administrator On Sep 15, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Ocatre Robert wrote: Dear all, I have not been able to interact with the rest on the net but have been able to read some of the correspondences. However as other have already indicated, my general perception is and I stand to be corrected that the majority seem not to be interested in this LADO issue. I concur with the rest that the postings on this topic be selved because it is not taking us anywhere. Let members who are interested individually write to RONALD who then can send the literature on Lado to their mails but not on the nhis net. Regards Robert Ocatre Dratia -- Acta Virum Probant Deo Volente -- Kiggundu Mukasa Serval Ltd. Plot 80 Kanjokya Street P.O. Box 24284 Kampala, Uganda Tel: +256 772 972255 +256 414 571779 Fax: +256 312 262122 http://serval.ug/ _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Tobacco farmers
WNiler, We should extend this to the cover the Environment Destroyed. But after. The people first. RObetia Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:35:08 -0700 From: paok...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Tobacco farmers To: westnilenet@kym.net Dear Colleagues Thanks for picking this issue up and raising its profile for further action. Clearly the actions of these BAT guys in the last several years have have caused increasing problems - directly and indirectly - to the people of the region. We are with you Caleb in the struggle for the oppressed people. Regards Patrick Okuni --- On Fri, 25/9/09, William Worodria wrote: From: William Worodria Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Tobacco farmers To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, 25 September, 2009, 2:02 PM Dear Charles, Thank you for blowing the whistle. I hope that these ills get the publicity they deserve after a careful assessment of the facts. Caleb, we appreciate your contribution to be one of the "voices" of the voiceless. This exploitation must stop. Worodria From: Charles Male To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Friday, 25 September, 2009 5:06:08 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] Tobacco farmers George, I also read on the NV or wat it the Monitor that the journalist who covered the accident story was charged fro accepting a bribe to shelve the story. Apparently, after writing the story, he was bribed no shelve it. Which centuary do we live in? Whoever said slavery has ended in Africa! On the pocitive side, I think this type story is finally what is going to make West Nile farmers kiss good bye to Tobacco farming! So what are the local governments and politicians saying about all these? Who are they representing in their council and parliament buildings? How can a people be raped for over half a century and all one gets is silence ffrom the people and gov'ts that represent them! The God who created the black racecould not have done any worse! On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 6:14 AM, George Afi Obitre-Gama wrote: No no no no. This is unacceptable. The farmers cannot and should not pay for an unforeseen natural occurence. This is daylight thuggery assisted by the police and should not be allowed to continue. Lawyers on the forum, can't you so something to redeem the farmers?? From: Charles Male To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:02:00 PM Subject: [WestNileNet] Tobacco farmers Could others verify what is happening in other districts/counties. We have received the following information about the latest in BATs strategic plan to satisfy their shareholders. If this is true and happenning all over the tobacco growing areas, Adripi Caleb, would you educate us about "class action suits (CAS) in Uganda". I think this a prime candidate for CAS! == Received: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:59 PM Just to share with you want is happening to our tabacco farmers who got input from BAT co. as loan . As you are aware of the drought the crop was destroyed and farmer cant pay the loan. BAT is now confiscating farmer properties like domestic animals,bicycle ,house hold items. They move with police to scare the farmers and what they collect is 3times the loan the farmers picked eg Miriya John picked input worth 200,000= he lost10 goats to BAT worth 600,000= Tobacco farmers could learn from this. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in a
RE: [WestNileNet] plea for votes
Hmn! It looks like you can have more than one maxima on this kalulu provided your kalulu registers different IP addresses i.e Dick instead of Afayoa. RObetia Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 05:35:02 -0700 From: elizabethad...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: westnilenet@kym.net thank you very much Magaret,i deeply appreciate. --- On Fri, 10/2/09, Margaret Angucia wrote: From: Margaret Angucia Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 3:32 AM I have been voting quietly. I would like to specifically encourage ladies on the forum to vote. Because you and me have the priviledge to have access to the internet, let us help to empower fellow women. Margaret On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Elizabeth Adiru wrote: Patrick you're awesome! --- On Fri, 10/2/09, DRAMADRI JOSEPH wrote: From: DRAMADRI JOSEPH Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 12:13 AM Woh! I have liked the presentation. I have pushed the total votes to 14,554. Guys lets go and vote. We go, we go, we go! Dramadri --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Patrick Okuni wrote: From: Patrick Okuni Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 2:28 PM Now I'm successful. The presentation is excellent (focusing on the cause of suffering children in Uganbda) - so I gave maximum votes. Please join the effort. Patrick --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Majid Alemi Junior wrote: From: Majid Alemi Junior Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 15:41 re. to vote. for elizabeth adiru. click here. http://classactcanada.com/classact?elizabethad...@yahoo.com yes I was successful voting for her from day one. majid alemi junior. in bc. she needs our suport. awadifo. everyone. From: "afe...@mtn.co.ug" To: westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 4:17:05 AM Subject: RE: [WestNileNet] plea for votes Patrick, Yes I was able to access this morning and even voted untill “Thank you for voting pops up”. Regards, Afema From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of Patrick Okuni Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 2:14 PM To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes Actually I tried in vain to access the site yesterday. Anyone more successful? Patrick --- On Thu, 1/10/09, Elizabeth Adiru wrote: From: Elizabeth Adiru Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Thursday, 1 October, 2009, 12:30 Thank you sooo much Caleb...i deeply appreciate! --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Caleb Alaka wrote: From: Caleb Alaka Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 11:56 PM I will vote for you as many days as possible before the due date. --- On Wed, 9/30/09, Elizabeth Adiru wrote: From: Elizabeth Adiru Subject: [WestNileNet] plea for votes To: westnilenet@kym.net Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 2:08 PM Hello, I am competing for a chance to win a scholarship to Sprott Shaw College. There is no personal information required; Its for a noble cause-TO BRING LOVE AND HOPE TO THE CHILDREN OF UGANDA I need to be in the top 20 out of 100 contestants by the 16th of October. Please take the time out to view my video (84 seconds only) and vote for me upto 10 votes in a row per day,per IP address,meaning you can vote 10 times until it says "thank you for voting" for that day,everyday when its convinient for you until the 16th of Oct. Please feel free to forward this message to as many well wishers and facebook friends you know. You can go to this link to vote: www.classactcanada.com/classact?elizabethad...@yahoo.com I deeply appreciate your contribution Thank you very much, Elizabeth -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any).
RE: [WestNileNet] Meeting of the Interim Leadership of West Nile Foundation
Hello Wendy, You must shout with the highest pitch of voice ever unless you grab an extra skirt with yourself. Otherwise just enjoy the nice company of very wide men around you that day. With Anguzu Rogers likely to be hidden in one of the planets, your chances rise from 5.8% to 6.25%. Force one of those girls to join u my friend and raise it to 12%. Cheers ladies and gentlemen. RObetia Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:28:19 -0700 From: calebal...@yahoo.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Meeting of the Interim Leadership of West Nile Foundation The following persons should endeavor to meet on the 25th day of October at 6.00 p.m at Imperial Royal Hotel 1st Floor lobby. Caleb Alaka Ijiku Robert Patrick Okuni Anguzu Rogers Patrick Oyulu Wendy Angudeyo John Toa B. Drani Saviour Gordon Obitre Gama Okecha Mike Dr. Opigo Afema Robert Azabo Francis Alemi Draecabo Charles Aleti Tom Mr. Boroa Matters to be discussed include the draft constitution of the organisation, the annual members conference, A.O.B The other officials will attend via video conferencing or through the use of any of the other modern Hi-tech devices. _ Keep your friends updated—even when you’re not signed in. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_5:092010___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] 'Thank You' from Robert and Pamela Obetia
Hi, We would like you to please accept our sincere thanks for all your support, prayers, gifts, generosity, love and sharing of joy during our wedding. We appreciate your thoughtfullness and the love you continue to share with us. Thank you for being part of future together. We wish you a happy and prosperous new year 2010. Robert and Pamela Obetia _ Windows Live: Keep your friends up to date with what you do online. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_1:092010___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Condolences
Dear Godfrey and Family, My heart is filled with sadness at loss of your Grandmother. I can not imagine the pain in you but wanted to let u know that our loving thoughts are with you. And may you know that an angel is watching over her. RObetia Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:14:08 + From: droma_...@yahoo.co.uk To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] Condolences Sadly be notified that Mr. Mundua Godfrey( Standard C. Bank) lost his Grandmother in the the night leading to this morning at Mulago Hosp. The body leaves for Arua tmro friday.Those who are around can join him for a vigil at his home in kisaasi tonight.RIP _ Windows Live: Make it easier for your friends to see what you’re up to on Facebook. http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_2:092009___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] RE: WestNile night
And It's Friday today. RObetia Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 01:15:59 -0800 From: paok...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: WestNile night To: westnilenet@kym.net Thx, Robert. Sounds good on all fronts. Let's get it going, and can improve on it as it moves. Patrick --- On Fri, 26/2/10, ONZOMA APOLLO wrote: From: ONZOMA APOLLO Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] RE: WestNile night To: "A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile" Date: Friday, 26 February, 2010, 11:27 Thanks Afema, Its really a good strategy especially at this time when the current rate of music production seems to eliminating the ones we like 'lingala'. Even if they give us one night in two months, that will keep us around generally and so long as it brings us together and allow us to exercise 'properly'. Lets know when it takes off. Regards Apollo From: "afe...@mtn.co.ug" To: westnilenet@kym.net Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 10:02:55 AM Subject: [WestNileNet] RE: WestNile night Cathy, Very good observation and trust me, the club has the most organised security that will not tolerate anything of the sort and besides we shall ensure that they are briefed on issues like you have raised. Regards, Robert From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of aji...@mtn.co.ug Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:58 AM To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] RE: WestNile night Very nice idea Robert. Any rules of presentation?... ... as it might be that word will be well spread about this night dedicated to Westnilers whenever, including our ‘famous’ Arua park chaps. (Fighting, being rule no.1 + the extra, extras of drugs- mairungis of sorts, etc…) From: westnilenet-boun...@kym.net [mailto:westnilenet-boun...@kym.net] On Behalf Of afe...@mtn.co.ug Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 9:41 AM To: westnilenet@kym.net Subject: [WestNileNet] WestNile night Goodmorning All, We have been approached my the management of Club Palui a night club situated in the lower section of Ntinda shopping Mall following support some members have rendered this club over the years with an offer of a night dedicated to Westnilers. This will mean that, the music that will be played will purely be from the region and preferably Lingala which many from west nile identify with so much. Among other things, this theme night proposed to take place every last Friday of the month will give an opportunity to promote prominent and upcoming artists from west nile by featuring each time we have this night. Secondly, I believe it will also be an avenue for members who are around Kampala to sociate, interact and probably agree on some of the topical issues being discussed on mail. Thirdly, members will agree with me that, this will give us identity and promote unity among other things. Lastly, we could find ways of doing merchandising for this to generate revenue for WNF. The management of Palui will be giving us 100 complementary tickets every theme night and this number can grow over time so long as the turn up is good. There was a proposal to officially launch this night next Friday 5th March and if members are in agreement we hope to bring in JM Keneddy and DJ Guido to help kick start the process. For more info you may contact Rogers Opigo 0772450207 and Afema Robert (0772120305). Regards, Afema NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.ug/Legal/Email-disclaimer.aspx NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.ug/Legal/Email-disclaimer.aspx NOTE: This e-mail message is subject to the MTN Group disclaimer see http://www.mtn.co.ug/Legal/Email-disclaimer.aspx -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ _ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet % WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
RE: [WestNileNet] Here is Something Very Practical
What can be practical in this world of Information if it is not information? This is how I took practical actions whenever I read the info in this space: I thought I was practically tolerant to certain information in WN. I also thought that I would do better by being practically silent on certain issues that would not be my area of expertise. I even tried to be practical in denying for myself beers, which I announced sometime back in this space (read on Barifa forest) to save for trees. Nobody knows how much trees have been planted and or saved in the form of energy in this practical undertaking. If all the exchange of information in this space is not practical enough for you or cannot cause you to take practicable action then close the space. Does any of you enjoy gossip, comedy etc . It can be found here in this space. In a world where the population is increasing at 3.7%, GDP at 6%, corruption at UGX 5b/annum, pubs at 200m apart, 1 church / 300m, potholes severity at 51%/km and the speed of travel reduced to 20km /hr, then where do you expect to find practical information relating to gossip, politics, development, ob’s, etc if not in such network. This is why networks like WN will never be purely what you wish. If this piece is not practical enough information for you, or cannot cause you to take practical action.. Hmn.. Robetia Date: Sat, 8 May 2010 00:47:03 -0700 From: worod...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] I have done something for this country To: westnilenet@kym.net Anthony, It could not be said in better terms. Cut the rhetoric.We need all hands aboard!! Worodria From: anthony ajiku To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Fri, 7 May, 2010 19:36:36 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] I have done something for this country Akile, you mustn't labour to isolate your brilliant side or rather achievements in any way under any form of provocation, atleast i know you... best known in your proffession 'res ipsa laquito'. I think we need to go back, as far back as when the forum was born. There is a total derailment or rather deviation from the original objectives. I remember issues linked to supporting or not supporting, liking or not liking, voting or not voting the sitting Government or politician(s) of any grade,nature and origin where never part of this initiative, very unfortunately this virus is back. you will also notice that there's less and less indulgence on this forum than before, and that should be a big worry. The hugest fear is that the Forum is dying faster than it started Lots of practical and excellent ideas and discussions have evolved in, on, and from this forum but non has stood the test of time, Excuse my language but we are like 'unguided missiles' and in such circumstances we start to go trivial and attacking individuals. Like my brother Patrick submitted last week, we need to go off alittle from punching away on our laptops, palm tops, netbooks, desktops and any other E-tops to some sort of practical convening, but again, here some person(s) must champion this... I challenge the mantle in the bracket of steering this forum to re invent and very fundamentaly practicalise the ideas floated herein by many. Interestingly many of us are known to each other by the names we meet every time we logon, it probably should not be that way.. Kind regards Anthony From: Sunday Akile To: A Virtual Network for friends of West Nile Sent: Thu, May 6, 2010 7:13:28 PM Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] I have done something for this country Rogers, With much respect to you for what you have said about me,I entirely concure with your advise to all of us on this forum. I salute you for attempting to enumerate a number of achievements on my part.I know could even say more on a serious note. But all in our own rights no one is a failure. We all have something to either boast of or at least tell our children. When i see every one around me i see achievements from them all. Well, besides the numerous cases that i have represented as a lawyer, i have not been doing badly in most of them.(I would not like to sound like i am advertising myself because my proffession does not like it) All these records are there. For Example in Tax matters with in this country whether against URA or any other body or individual it has not been bad for me either, many Tax payers and URA officials will testify about my contribution to the Tax Jurisprudence in Uganda.Which is not only to the benefit of tax payers but to URA too. Last week on 29th & 30th of April because of the recognition for my contribution in that area, i was part of a big Confrence which drew Tax bodies from the region- Kenya, Tanzania, Rwanda, Zambia and Uganda. Our own elder of the region, Mr. Feta Martin was also a resource person in this confrence at Hotel Protea. Over t
RE: [WestNileNet] With immediate effect!
Inshaallah! You are right Father. This country may need divine intervention. robetia Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:19:05 -0400 Subject: Re: [WestNileNet] With immediate effect! From: ezama.ruff...@gmail.com To: westnilenet@kym.net Dont worry, the IGP will be at Mass when I celebrate since there will be many people. With prayer God will fix this country! r ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
Re: [WestNileNet] Barifa Land Saga
Caleb, My thumbs up for the decision. Not political (but natural) thumbs, otherwise i would wave to you or ask you to turn the key for a court case. > Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 13:00:25 +0300 > From: calebal...@gmail.com > To: westnilenet@kym.net > Subject: [WestNileNet] Barifa Land Saga > > Andua, > > Thanks for your informative communication about the forest. Are > members still cagey about our resolve to go to Court? Any way we are > going to Court next week and we shall update you step by step. > ___ > WestNileNet mailing list > WestNileNet@kym.net > http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet > > WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > ___ > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] Congratulations to friends from South Sudan
You may be on this WestNile network or now living north of Oraba / Nimule or in Diaspora but you are a South-Sudanese; you deserve to be congratulated upon your independence. Ok - Oy robetia Monrovia ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ All Archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com/westnilenet@kym.net/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
[WestNileNet] New Member - Request
Dear Kigundu, Kindly add a new member (Temia Shillah) to the community network: temiashe...@gmail.com Regards, RObetia ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___ ___ WestNileNet mailing list WestNileNet@kym.net http://orion.kym.net/mailman/listinfo/westnilenet WestNileNet is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. ___
