Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Sumana Harihareswara]

Tejas,

You might like the video at
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Open_Tech_Chat_2012-11-29.ogv
-- that video shows you the process of how a developer fixes a bug,
including investigation, git commit, getting it reviewed and merged, and
closing the Bugzilla ticket.

Please also read
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MediaWiki_architecture.

Hope this helps!

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On 03/10/2013 07:57 AM, Tejas Nikumbh wrote:
> I created a bugzilla account but the process of going through the code and
> fixing bugs seems cryptic. Any resources you can provide which can aid me
> in understanding the process? A video which shows the process or some
> documentation perhaps?
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:
> 
>> On 02/28/2013 03:14 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:02:16 +0100, Quim Gil  wrote:
>>>
>>>  Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug from

>>>
>>> From?
>>>
>>
>> Er... sorry (multitasking with just one brain has these things):
>>
>> https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
>>
>>
>>
>>> Quim probably wanted to link the list of bugs marked as 'easy':
>>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%**
>>> 21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit(here
>>>  I'm also excluding ones with a patch pending). :)
>>>
>>
>> Yes, also linked at the URL above.
>>
>>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Brian Wolff]

On 2013-03-10 2:55 PM, "Nischay Nahata"  wrote:
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Tejas Nikumbh wrote:
>
> > I created a bugzilla account but the process of going through the code
and
> > fixing bugs seems cryptic. Any resources you can provide which can aid
me
> > in understanding the process? A video which shows the process or some
> > documentation perhaps?
> >
> >
> Have you already gone through the process of how to be a hacker?
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker
>
> Not a hacker who breaks things of course :)
>
>

Hey, if you figure out how to break things, that's useful too, provided you
don't actually break things but tell us how they could be broken.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Nischay Nahata]

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Tejas Nikumbh wrote:

> I created a bugzilla account but the process of going through the code and
> fixing bugs seems cryptic. Any resources you can provide which can aid me
> in understanding the process? A video which shows the process or some
> documentation perhaps?
>
>
Have you already gone through the process of how to be a hacker?
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker

Not a hacker who breaks things of course :)


> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:
>
> > On 02/28/2013 03:14 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:02:16 +0100, Quim Gil 
> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug
> from
> >>>
> >>
> >> From?
> >>
> >
> > Er... sorry (multitasking with just one brain has these things):
> >
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Annoying_little_bugs<
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Quim probably wanted to link the list of bugs marked as 'easy':
> >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%**
> >> 21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit<
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit>(here
> I'm also excluding ones with a patch pending). :)
> >>
> >
> > Yes, also linked at the URL above.
> >
> >
> > --
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> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Tejas Nikumbh]

I created a bugzilla account but the process of going through the code and
fixing bugs seems cryptic. Any resources you can provide which can aid me
in understanding the process? A video which shows the process or some
documentation perhaps?

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> On 02/28/2013 03:14 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:02:16 +0100, Quim Gil  wrote:
>>
>>  Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug from
>>>
>>
>> From?
>>
>
> Er... sorry (multitasking with just one brain has these things):
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Annoying_little_bugs
>
>
>
>> Quim probably wanted to link the list of bugs marked as 'easy':
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.**org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%**
>> 21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit(here
>>  I'm also excluding ones with a patch pending). :)
>>
>
> Yes, also linked at the URL above.
>
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Quim Gil]

On 02/28/2013 03:14 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote:

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:02:16 +0100, Quim Gil  wrote:


Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug from


From?


Er... sorry (multitasking with just one brain has these things):

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_little_bugs



Quim probably wanted to link the list of bugs marked as 'easy': 
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit
 (here I'm also excluding ones with a patch pending). :)


Yes, also linked at the URL above.

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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Bartosz Dziewoński]

On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 00:02:16 +0100, Quim Gil  wrote:


Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug from


From?

Quim probably wanted to link the list of bugs marked as 'easy': 
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=%21easy%20-%21patch-in-gerrit
 (here I'm also excluding ones with a patch pending). :)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Quim Gil]

Hello Tejas,

On 02/28/2013 05:34 AM, Tejas Nikumbh wrote:

Hi,

I am Tejas Nikumbh, an undergrad at Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.
I will be participating in GSoC this year. [GSoC 2013]. In order to imporve
my chances for getting selected this year, I would like to start
contributing early on to Open Source development via Wikimedia.


Great!

Our default recommendation to newcomers has been to try to fix a bug from

Something that we are thinking of start recommending is to go through 
the code review queue, select a changeset and help reviewing with your 
comments and your vote.


See

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gerrit/Reports/Oldest_open_changesets


Reviewing changes contributed by other developers is also a chance to 
learn about the projects developed here. It also requires you to setup 
your environment, get developer access and other steps that developers 
willing to contribute code need to go through.


What do you think? Hopefully the documentation will be good enough to 
guide you through. Otherwise just ask.


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[Wikitech-l] GSoC 2013 guidelines??

[Tejas Nikumbh]

Hi,

I am Tejas Nikumbh, an undergrad at Indian Institute of Technology Bombay.
I will be participating in GSoC this year. [GSoC 2013]. In order to imporve
my chances for getting selected this year, I would like to start
contributing early on to Open Source development via Wikimedia.

Here's a little background info :

*Languages proficient in : *Java, Python, Javascript [+jQuery] ,
HTML[+HTML5 Canvas], CSS [+CSS3]. C++ should be on the list soon.

*CS Theory :* Discrete Math, Probablity and Random Processes, Data
Structures and Algorithms.

*SVN : *Github, Mercurial
.
*Basic Machine learning [Regression algos and some classification algos]*

Based on the above info, are there any projects  which might suit me?

Also, Picking up something reasonable quickly shouldn't be a problem.
Thanks,


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Quim Gil]

On 02/26/2013 08:29 AM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:

I am not sure how GSOC supervision functions, but I
will definitely be involved with the implementation.


Everything starts with you (and any other potential mentors) adding 
yourself to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2013#Mentors :)


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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Nischay Nahata]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Yuri Astrakhan wrote:

> Atul, one of the fun projects that has been sitting on my backburner is to
> implement errors and warnings localization for the Web API. The project
> would involve some planning, figuring out translation framework, and later
> - converting all API modules and extensions to use it. As a result, all
> clients, including mobile, will be able to report errors to the users in
> their native language. I am not sure how GSOC supervision functions, but I
> will definitely be involved with the implementation.
>
> This is slightly bigger than a bug fix, but should be fairly independent
> from everything and will give you good exposure into internals as well as
> javascript and other  clients.
>
>
>
I think this is a potential 'good' project itself. There are also small
tasks associated that the applicant can learn from, say properly handle
the errors and warnings in an extension that doesn't already do it.


> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Atul Agrawal 
> wrote:
>
> > @Waldir:working on the link you sent me.I will notify you if I need any
> > help
> >
> > @Quim:While I will love to work under a project and be guided .It will be
> > great if you can suggest some beginner level project and  I can work with
> > someone or by my own.
> > I will like to solve arithmetic bugs,logical bugs,deadlock situation and
> > teamworking bugs.
> > And one more thing as mediaWiki documentation is so vast, how will I know
> > in which specific area I have to develop my skills so that I will able to
> > get the idea as well as solve it which will be proposed for gsoc 2013?Do
> I
> > need to contact the mentors?
> >
> > Thanks for being so helpful.
> >
> > Atul
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:
> >
> > > On 02/26/2013 01:23 AM, Atul Agrawal wrote:
> > >
> > >> Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to
> > fix
> > >> bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
> > >> Developing_Extensions > >> Developing_extensions<
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions>
> > >> >.If
> > >> you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will
> be
> > >> highly obliged.
> > >>
> > >
> > > We have many different software projects, and what to read depends pon
> > > what bugs you want to fix.
> > >
> > > Why not choosing first a project or a bug that interests you, and then
> > > learn about the pieces involved as you try to fix it?
> > >
> > > We can help you find a first bug. What is your area of interest?
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Yuri Astrakhan]

Atul, one of the fun projects that has been sitting on my backburner is to
implement errors and warnings localization for the Web API. The project
would involve some planning, figuring out translation framework, and later
- converting all API modules and extensions to use it. As a result, all
clients, including mobile, will be able to report errors to the users in
their native language. I am not sure how GSOC supervision functions, but I
will definitely be involved with the implementation.

This is slightly bigger than a bug fix, but should be fairly independent
from everything and will give you good exposure into internals as well as
javascript and other  clients.


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Atul Agrawal  wrote:

> @Waldir:working on the link you sent me.I will notify you if I need any
> help
>
> @Quim:While I will love to work under a project and be guided .It will be
> great if you can suggest some beginner level project and  I can work with
> someone or by my own.
> I will like to solve arithmetic bugs,logical bugs,deadlock situation and
> teamworking bugs.
> And one more thing as mediaWiki documentation is so vast, how will I know
> in which specific area I have to develop my skills so that I will able to
> get the idea as well as solve it which will be proposed for gsoc 2013?Do I
> need to contact the mentors?
>
> Thanks for being so helpful.
>
> Atul
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:
>
> > On 02/26/2013 01:23 AM, Atul Agrawal wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to
> fix
> >> bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
> >> Developing_Extensions >> Developing_extensions<
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions>
> >> >.If
> >> you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will be
> >> highly obliged.
> >>
> >
> > We have many different software projects, and what to read depends pon
> > what bugs you want to fix.
> >
> > Why not choosing first a project or a bug that interests you, and then
> > learn about the pieces involved as you try to fix it?
> >
> > We can help you find a first bug. What is your area of interest?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Quim Gil
> > Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/**User:Qgil<
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Atul Agrawal]

@Waldir:working on the link you sent me.I will notify you if I need any help

@Quim:While I will love to work under a project and be guided .It will be
great if you can suggest some beginner level project and  I can work with
someone or by my own.
I will like to solve arithmetic bugs,logical bugs,deadlock situation and
teamworking bugs.
And one more thing as mediaWiki documentation is so vast, how will I know
in which specific area I have to develop my skills so that I will able to
get the idea as well as solve it which will be proposed for gsoc 2013?Do I
need to contact the mentors?

Thanks for being so helpful.

Atul



On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> On 02/26/2013 01:23 AM, Atul Agrawal wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to fix
>> bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
>> Developing_Extensions> Developing_extensions
>> >.If
>> you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will be
>> highly obliged.
>>
>
> We have many different software projects, and what to read depends pon
> what bugs you want to fix.
>
> Why not choosing first a project or a bug that interests you, and then
> learn about the pieces involved as you try to fix it?
>
> We can help you find a first bug. What is your area of interest?
>
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Quim Gil]

On 02/26/2013 01:23 AM, Atul Agrawal wrote:

Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to fix
bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
Developing_Extensions.If
you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will be
highly obliged.


We have many different software projects, and what to read depends pon 
what bugs you want to fix.


Why not choosing first a project or a bug that interests you, and then 
learn about the pieces involved as you try to fix it?


We can help you find a first bug. What is your area of interest?

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Waldir Pimenta]

On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Atul Agrawal  wrote:

> Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to fix
> bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
> Developing_Extensions<
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions>.If
> you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will be
> highly obliged.
>

I've been collecting a few links at
http://www.mediawiki.org/?oldid=651991#MediaWiki_reference
that might be useful for newcomer developers to get a first overview of
various components of the MediaWiki universe.

Let me know if those are helpful to you and what you think is missing from
that list. Bear in mind that it's a work in progress, though.

--Waldir

ps - while you're at that page, if you find some interest in any of some of
the bugs I've listed in the "easy" part of the "Potential bugs for hacking
sessions" section, I'd love to help you go about fixing them.
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Atul Agrawal]

Thanks a lot.Will try to fix bugs.But what knowledge should I have to fix
bugs?knowing php is sufficient?Till now I have read this page(
Developing_Extensions.If
you can share the documents one should read before fixing bugs,I will be
highly obliged.

Thanks for replying



On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Quim Gil  wrote:

> Hi Atul,
>
>
> On 02/25/2013 12:12 PM, Atul Agrawal wrote:>
>
>> I installed MediaWiki software and I was going through the link "become
>> a MediaWiki hacker".My question is how will the community judge me?Do I
>> have to create a new extension?And whom should I report?
>>
>
> Those are very good questions. GSOC apart, people here (as in most
> communities) will probably judge at the end how helpful / useful you are.
>
> For a programmer, fixing bugs effectively is a way to learn and be helpful
> at the same time. You can start with something small and grow the weight of
> your fixes as your experience grows. Here is a good starting point:
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug
>
> PS: Very good start so far!
>
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Re: [Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Quim Gil]

Hi Atul,

On 02/25/2013 12:12 PM, Atul Agrawal wrote:>

I installed MediaWiki software and I was going through the link "become
a MediaWiki hacker".My question is how will the community judge me?Do I
have to create a new extension?And whom should I report?


Those are very good questions. GSOC apart, people here (as in most 
communities) will probably judge at the end how helpful / useful you are.


For a programmer, fixing bugs effectively is a way to learn and be 
helpful at the same time. You can start with something small and grow 
the weight of your fixes as your experience grows. Here is a good 
starting point:


https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Annoying_Little_Bug

PS: Very good start so far!

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[Wikitech-l] Gsoc 2013 guidelines

[Atul Agrawal]

Hi,

I am Atul Agrawal, an undergrad at BITS Pilani I will be participating in
GSoC this year. [GSoC 2013]. In order to imporve my chances for getting
selected this year, I would like to start contributing early on to Open
Source development via mediaWiki.

Here's a little background info :

Languages proficient in : Java, C,PHP Javascript [+jQuery] , HTML[+HTML5
Canvas], CSS [+CSS3]. C++ should be on the list soon.

CS Theory : Discrete Math, Probablity and Random Processes, Data Structures
and Algorithms.

I installed MediaWiki software and I was going through the link "become
a MediaWiki hacker".My question is how will the community judge me?Do I
have to create a new extension?And whom should I report?

Thanks,

-- 
Atul Agrawal
B.E Mechanical
BITS PILANI Goa Campus
Mobile:+91-81491-95049
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