Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? _ From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: 18 September 2010 23:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I’m all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
If it is only 40' tall and there is not a huge amount of wind loading you can drill into the slab with a hammer drill and and secure threaded rod (galvanized or stainless) in the holes with Hilti HY epoxy. When drilling the holes in the epoxy bevel them slightly off center. That will hold it providing you have some sort of base plate to attach to. -B- Paul Hendry wrote: The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? *From:* Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] *Sent:* 18 September 2010 23:38 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I’m all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Hendry *Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM *To:* wireless *Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] WISPA Classified Ads
Awesome; I thought it was just missing or broken before. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:27:18PM -0400, Rick Harnish wrote: Thanks to Justin Wilson who helped format the WISPA Classified Ads page http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=2297 so that the content is now at the top. Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone have a part number for them? Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote: We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a feed horn? Thanks. I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done. We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe. There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and already had a suitable small notch in the center. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
See if this is what you are looking for
http://reseller.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DA5W-32FEED-DPeq=Tp=
http://reseller.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=DA5W-32FEED-DPeq=Tp=
On 9/20/2010 4:05 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
I think this is what you want.
http://store.wisp-router.com/catalog/partdetail.aspx?partno=DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On 9/20/2010 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
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From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
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903-455-5036
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Basically same here for us, except that we charge a full install fee for
moves.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Reed
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:13 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We don't charge for trees or something that should have been handled at the
time of install.
When we bill, we bill at $80/hr, 1/2 hr minimum, one-way drive time.
- Original Message -
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
road signs - 7 word of mouth - 6 but takes a long time direct mail - 4 service trucks - 3 The trick is to use multiple so that you get 3-4 (touches) to your potential client to gain a trust. - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: motor...@afmug.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Right, it's an operational/procedural issue.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We don't charge only because we are in a competitive environment and
sell to business that have contracts; thus we can charge more on the MTM
rates. If you're the only game in town I see no reason why not to charge
(might as well take advantage of being a monopoly), but if they could
leave to go somewhere else then it really comes down to what your ROI is
and if you can afford to lose a customer.
On 09/20/2010 05:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Right, it's an operational/procedural issue.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.netwrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.comwrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We do pay attention to those variables.
- Original Message -
From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We don't charge only because we are in a competitive environment and
sell to business that have contracts; thus we can charge more on the MTM
rates. If you're the only game in town I see no reason why not to charge
(might as well take advantage of being a monopoly), but if they could
leave to go somewhere else then it really comes down to what your ROI is
and if you can afford to lose a customer.
On 09/20/2010 05:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Right, it's an operational/procedural issue.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.netwrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at
a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris
Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.comwrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity.
Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can
buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be
done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get
the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or
something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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[WISPA] Kernel Patching
Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
lol Red Hat has not actually pushed anything out yet - even though others have... makes me wonder what they are thinking On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
How hard is it to find packages for 2bit OSes? :p On Sep 20, 2010 7:51 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Tho... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
We don't charge if it is put in an obvious locationbut if they plant a
tree we charge $75.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
I believe that is called shoe and leather - yes ? On Sep 20, 2010, at 7:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelley gl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep. The only way the accountant would have a say is if it is in the
contract. Otherwise he needs to account for it the way you do it.
On 9/20/2010 5:38 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Right, it's an operational/procedural issue.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote:
This is not an accounting issue.
Unless you're married to or otherwise entangled with said accountant.
Then it's an accounting issue.
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.netwrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.comwrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Us too. If it's our fault we don't charge. If they move to a new house, we actually either charge half of the install rate or free move for keeping the service. If they need to move it within the same house due to their liking, we charge an hourly rate. Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC http://www.dcaccess.net 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community Join us on Facebook http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Washington-DC/DC-Access-LLC/64096486706?ref=tsor follow us on Twitter http://twitter.com/dcaccess /* On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Same here. If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it elsewhere, that's a charge. If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off because of the wrong screw, no charge. Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they want something special we charge. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com wrote: If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install. If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation fee. Marco On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote: Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal is very weak? If so at what rate? NGL -- From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM To:wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol Thanks guys! Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote: DA5W-29-DP-FEED On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com wrote: I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone have a part number for them? Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P. http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote: We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes serving as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected to these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does anyone know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from single pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new dish setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just a feed horn? Thanks. I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done. We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you describe. There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp, and basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and already had a suitable small notch in the center. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
So… Does the FBO know this or will it be a surprise in the morning with the first plane on final???!!! HA! Depends on the landing strip. Rome Air Force Base, yes. Small county strip, heck no! Here in Ohio, most landing strips were just a mile of asphalt to start. Then extended. No real base there. As a side note, the county where I am were GIVEN a 300 foot ATT long lines tower. They immediately demolished it as an air hazard because it was close to the county strip. (We actually used the thing as a marker when turning onto the base leg on approach) Now, of course, they are kicking themselves for the cash they are spending on new towers for the safety services. DUMMIES! Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:31 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? _ From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: 18 September 2010 23:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I’m all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
There's a difference between a 2 bit operation and 2 bit code. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/20/2010 6:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] tower tool bag
I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Things i say to customers..... And they actually believe them............
LOL, BOB! That kinda like telling them that the cables cant be all twisted up or it slows down the bits :) On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Today, installing old lady so she can do the Facebook Farmville thing…….. She asks……. “If the service stops working, how do I find out about how long it will be down?” I say……….. (you know it’s coming..) “Just check on our website, it should tell you an estimate of when it will be back up.” “If it goes over the time, just shoot us an email.” And she says “Oh, okay. I’ll write that down” Yes, I eventually told her it was a joke but most of them fall for it. My Bad- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
Ditto that! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: road signs - 7 word of mouth - 6 but takes a long time direct mail - 4 service trucks - 3 The trick is to use multiple so that you get 3-4 (touches) to your potential client to gain a trust. - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: motor...@afmug.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Canvas buckets. No contest. On Sep 20, 2010 10:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Ditto to all including this one! Had that happen the other day. They planted
a tree right in front of the antenna!
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com wrote:
We don't charge if it is put in an obvious locationbut if they plant a
tree we charge $75.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:52 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Is your accountant a customer? If so, does he have trees? It would be
interesting to test his theory on him:)
Just sayin'...
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:34 PM, ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net wrote:
That was my thought, but the accountant disagrees.
Thanx
--
From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 2:13 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Yep, trees = our fault, our cost. If they want it moved for
aesthetics, etc., normal service rate.
We do 1/2 price installs for customers that move.
On 9/20/2010 5:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Same here.
If they want it moved because it was on their barn and want it
elsewhere, that's a charge.
If it's simple tree growth, no charge. If our mounting falls off
because of the wrong screw, no charge.
Basically if it is our fault or poor foresight no charge but if they
want something special we charge.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Marco Coelhocoelh...@gmail.com
wrote:
If it's tree growth, no. That means we messed up during install.
If the customers moves to a new house, we recharge the installation
fee.
Marco
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:52 PM, ~NGL~n...@ngl.net wrote:
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the
signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To:wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns.
Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection
U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic
dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios
connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes
from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a
whole
new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy
just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a
few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a
smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a
rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the
new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something,
and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
They use asphalt up there? Here they just upgraded the local landing strips from dirt to crushed stone :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: So… Does the FBO know this or will it be a surprise in the morning with the first plane on final???!!! HA! Depends on the landing strip. Rome Air Force Base, yes. Small county strip, heck no! Here in Ohio, most landing strips were just a mile of asphalt to start. Then extended. No real base there. As a side note, the county where I am were GIVEN a 300 foot ATT long lines tower. They immediately demolished it as an air hazard because it was close to the county strip. (We actually used the thing as a marker when turning onto the base leg on approach) Now, of course, they are kicking themselves for the cash they are spending on new towers for the safety services. DUMMIES! Me- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Hendry *Sent:* Monday, September 20, 2010 6:31 AM *To:* wireless *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? -- *From:* Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] *Sent:* 18 September 2010 23:38 *To:* 'WISPA General List' *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I’m all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Hendry *Sent:* Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM *To:* wireless *Subject:* [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by *MailScanner* http://www.mailscanner.info/, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:42 PM Subject: [WISPA] tower tool bag I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
I use a canvas bag! One that the belt on the safety harness can go through to hold it onto my back. I also have a zippered canvas bag that I strap on as well. (Keep the drinks in that one!) But I love the big orange 5 gallon buckets for serious hauling things up. I just make sure the drill or whatever is the heaviest is in the bottom of the bucket because, as you say, it will tip over on the way up. I've never lost anything on the way up. My problem was dropping stuff before I learned to put a rope on every wrench or whatever! I've seen some soft sided bags that are of a thicker canvas and have a rigid plastic bottom. They look pretty sturdy. I'd hate to have something not soft sided strapped to me while negotiating the transition the ladder makes 2/3rds up a 300 foot self-supporter. I bang my head enough on that, don't need to be snagged with a plastic bucket. Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] tower tool bag I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
I'm a 2 bit operation. Really. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching There's a difference between a 2 bit operation and 2 bit code. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/20/2010 6:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h= c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
I'd suggest two big ones. I forget where to get them, I can look tomorrow if you would like. On Sep 20, 2010 10:58 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wirele... WISPA Wan... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Depends on the exactations set at time of original order.
We sell a monthly service and guarantee that it will work.
If it doesn;t work, they dont pay, or they switch providers.
We also charge well for primary first install.
We also have lots of wirelinbe competition that does not have risks of
foliage growth.
HAven't you seen the DISH versus Cable Commercials bashing DISH for all the
consumer frustration having to install, maintain and fix their own DISH that
is alledged troublesome?
We combated that impression by taking responsibilty for any thing that might
incur in the future. We are full service. Not only are they buying service
but they are buying an implied service maintenance agreement to make sure it
keeps working well. Thats why we charge a bit more than other commodity
providers, we warrantee the broadband experience on an on going basis.
So no we do not charge to move an antenna if that is what is required to
maintain quality signal and service.
BUT... any equipment move that is NOT required to fix service quality, we
charge for. BUT we low ball the price, because... WE DONT WANT END USERS
TOUCHING OUR GEAR AND INSTALLING IT WRONG, BECAUSE THEN WE ARE FORCED TO
WARRANTEE SERVICE QUALITY ON AN ON GOING BASIS AND HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE THAT
CUSTOMER MIGHT HAVE SCREWED THE INSTALL UP AND MOVED IT. EVeryone thinks
they are a technician and they are not. So we make it mandatory to pay us
to move any wireless gear. IF they touch it, it voids warrantee, and we
charge heavily full retail to fix it after they touch it.
So... We will move gear at consumer request for just about any reason, but
charge a low price to do it. I recognize low price is a matter of one's
own perception.
We normally charge $90/hour, not to exceed more than Half-Price of the
advertised Install Fee. We figure they deserve a reduced rate if they have
been a good subscriber of ours for a while.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: ~NGL~ n...@ngl.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:52 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Charge to move equipment
Do you charge when you have to relocate and rewire the equipment at a
clients location, because the trees have grown to a point where the signal
is very weak? If so at what rate?
NGL
--
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 1:19 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Convert Single Pol to Dual Pol
Thanks guys!
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/20/2010 3:14 PM, Philip Dorr wrote:
DA5W-29-DP-FEED
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
wrote:
I'm having a heck of a time finding the dual pol feed horns. Anyone
have a part number for them?
Chris Gotstein, Network Engineer, U.P. Logon/Computer Connection U.P.
http://uplogon.com | +1 906 774 4847 | ch...@uplogon.com
On 9/17/2010 5:42 PM, David E. Smith wrote:
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 14:36, Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
mailto:ch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We have some older Pac Wireless 2' 5.8Mhz 29db parabolic dishes
serving
as a PtP link. We are going to be upgrading the radios connected
to
these dishes, and the new radios support dual polarity. Does
anyone
know if you can just swap out the feed horn on the dishes from
single
pol to dual pol? Would sure be easier than hauling up a whole new
dish
setup. If this would work, anyone got sources that i can buy just
a
feed horn? Thanks.
I forget where we bought the feedhorns from, but this can be done.
We actually just replaced two of them, doing exactly what you
describe.
There was a catch, though. The feedhorn has two N connectors, a few
inches and ninety degrees apart. One of the two dishes had a smaller
hole in the center, and my climber had to take up snips and a rasp,
and
basically put a small notch in the center of the dish, to get the new
feedhorn to fit. The other dish was older, or newer, or something, and
already had a suitable small notch in the center.
David Smith
MVN.net
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Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Well, thats what I've been using for years but like I said, I hate them when they collapse and you have to dig for the right tool. On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Canvas buckets. No contest. On Sep 20, 2010 10:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I've been taking a round canvas bag with my tools in it to the top of the towers that I work on. But it gets aggravating since it is soft sided and collapses when I set it down on the top of the water tank. So, I tired a 5 gallon bucket the other day but dont like that it wants to tip whenever it hits a obstacle on the way up. So, what do you guys use? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching
I thought you were a 2 bit operator :P On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:00 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I'm a 2 bit operation. Really. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Kernel Patching There's a difference between a 2 bit operation and 2 bit code. :-p - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 9/20/2010 6:51 PM, Marco Coelho wrote: Thanks for the update. Thank goodness I run only 2 bit code! On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Glenn Kelleygl...@hostmedic.com wrote: Just a heads up. Those of you who are running Debian, CentOS, RedHat and other systems similar. There is a pretty big security flaw on the 64 bit side of these systems now labeled as CVE-2010-3081 In short The flaw identified by CVE-2010-3081 (Red Hat Bugzilla bug 634457) describes an issue in the 32/64-bit compatibility layer implementation in the Linux kernel, versions 2.6.26-rc1 to 2.6.36-rc4. The compat_alloc_user_space() function is missing a sanity check on the length argument, and also a check to make sure the pointer to the block of memory in user-space that the process is attempting to write to is valid. This flaw was addressed via the upstream git commit c41d68a5 for the 2.6 Linux kernel. This function could be abused in other areas of the Linux kernel if the length argument can be controlled from user-space. A known example of this is the compat_mc_getsockopt() function for MCAST_MSFILTER that was introduced in upstream git commit 42908c69 (v2.6.26-rc1). You can easily fix this by implementing the patch located here: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h= c41d68a513c71e35a14f66d71782d27a79a81ea6. As always - if you are stuck -please do not hesitate to contact me offlist - while the patch is from 9/19/10 - many wispa's have not patched their systems simply because they don't know they needed to. As always - when in doubt check the security lists out :-) _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
lol, you've already got two big ones if you climb towers :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I'd suggest two big ones. I forget where to get them, I can look tomorrow if you would like. On Sep 20, 2010 10:58 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wirele... WISPA Wan... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Amazingly, I found the best deal on the bags to be at a Harbor Freight store! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag I'd suggest two big ones. I forget where to get them, I can look tomorrow if you would like. On Sep 20, 2010 10:58 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wirele... WISPA Wan... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Do you have pockets on the side? I've never ever had mine tip. On Sep 20, 2010 11:11 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Amazingly, I found the best deal on the bags to be at a Harbor Freight store! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign you... From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag I'd suggest two bi... ---... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Thats my source as well. Gotta watch out for some of their stuff though! Cheap, and not in a good way :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Amazingly, I found the best deal on the bags to be at a Harbor Freight store! Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag I'd suggest two big ones. I forget where to get them, I can look tomorrow if you would like. On Sep 20, 2010 10:58 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wirele... WISPA Wan... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag
Learn the limitations of them. That¹s the big lesson I learned years ago. The idea is you should have some ³bolt bags² on you as well. Use the bolt bags to hold tools which you are going to use immediately or near future and hold, what else, bolts and nuts. Most climbers do not take the kitchen sink up with them. They take what tools they will need and maybe a couple of multi-purpose tools such as adjustable wrenches. If you are doing installs you should have multiple tool bags. For example, say you are putting up 3 standoffs with sectors on them. When you haul the standoffs up you should have a canvas bag attached to each standoff. This bag contains the hardware needed to mount that standoff and whatever else needs to be put on that standoff (if it¹s not already). At that point all you are carrying are some small handtools. The wrench(s) are in the bag attached to the first standoff. Granted you can¹t carry everything up with you for a repair, but you don¹t need to. If you are unsure drag a rope behind you. Sure it might take a few extra moments to pull something up, but it means you are not taking every tool you own up the tower too. As far as the bag tipping and wanting to collapse tie the bag off with a biners so it does not slide. If you have big tools such as drills that want to slide out of the bag get biners on them and tie them off somewhere. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net http://www.mtin.net/blog xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting Tower Climbing Network Support From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:08:19 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower tool bag lol, you've already got two big ones if you climb towers :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 11:01 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I'd suggest two big ones. I forget where to get them, I can look tomorrow if you would like. On Sep 20, 2010 10:58 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com wrote: Round canvas bag. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wirele... - --- WISPA Wan... -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Things i say to customers..... And they actually believe them............
The reason the internets is slower upstairs is because they have to travel UP too far.. You should always have the cables horizontal. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Things i say to customers. And they actually believe them LOL, BOB! That kinda like telling them that the cables cant be all twisted up or it slows down the bits :) On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Today, installing old lady so she can do the Facebook Farmville thing She asks... If the service stops working, how do I find out about how long it will be down? I say. (you know it's coming..) Just check on our website, it should tell you an estimate of when it will be back up. If it goes over the time, just shoot us an email. And she says Oh, okay. I'll write that down Yes, I eventually told her it was a joke but most of them fall for it. My Bad- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings
I have a customer who has a grass field with a Cessna 172 and permission to use it anytime. Both the field and the 172. I never have. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 10:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings They use asphalt up there? Here they just upgraded the local landing strips from dirt to crushed stone :) On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: So. Does the FBO know this or will it be a surprise in the morning with the first plane on final???!!! HA! Depends on the landing strip. Rome Air Force Base, yes. Small county strip, heck no! Here in Ohio, most landing strips were just a mile of asphalt to start. Then extended. No real base there. As a side note, the county where I am were GIVEN a 300 foot ATT long lines tower. They immediately demolished it as an air hazard because it was close to the county strip. (We actually used the thing as a marker when turning onto the base leg on approach) Now, of course, they are kicking themselves for the cash they are spending on new towers for the safety services. DUMMIES! Me- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 6:31 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings The concrete in question is actually a landing strip so is plenty strong/thick enough. As we would normally cement in the rods that the tower is mounted onto, I need to know how it would be done when the concrete is already there. Anyone doing this or is it just not the way to go? _ From: Robert West [mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com] Sent: 18 September 2010 23:38 To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Footings I would want to know the concrete strength, if it had rebar in it and how deep and wide it goes. As well if they are belled out. I'm all for saving a bunch of bucks but gotta make sure you stay within specs for the new tower. Also, bolting onto the old foundation, go deep! Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 12:07 PM To: wireless Subject: [WISPA] Tower Footings Hi all, We have a 12m VersaTower that we are looking to install but where it needs installing there is already a very solid concrete foundations. We have only ever installed a tower by digging fresh foundations and was wondering if anyone knows of an acceptable techniche for mounting directly onto existing foundations or if this is just not a very good idea at all. Many thanks, Paul Hendry Technical Director Skyline Networks Consultancy Ltd Unit 6C - Woodside Commercial Estate, Woodside, Thornwood, Epping, Essex CM16 6LJ Tel: 0845 004 0404 Mob: 0783 492 1803 Email: mailto:paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com paul.hen...@skyline-networks.com Web: http://www.skyline-networks.com http://www.skyline-networks.com This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the sender. Whilst every endeavour is taken to ensure that emails are free from viruses, no liability can be accepted for any damage arising from using this email. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by http://www.mailscanner.info/ MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
for us... Newspaper -- 1 ... 24 weeks... 2 responses road signs -- 5 if by this you mean yard signs like real estate agents use Direct mail -- 9 But see below... demo trucks -- never tried billboards -- never tried word of mouth -- 9 We started direct mail this year... But we do it differently than many. we drive by and record addresses and rate them as low cost, medium cost or high cost install. Then we mail pre-qualified for service flyer's to all the low cost ones offering $50 off the install good for 2-4 weeks. The response rate is around 4% Marco Coelho wrote: What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement
We door hang. For sure links, we hang a flyer on their door on the OUTSIDE of their mailbox Never the inside, bad mojo with the post office by putting INSIDE the box. We use the circle sticklers by Avery and print them up on the laser printer. Essentially. FREE! As Blair condensed, Newspaper sucks,. Road signs, forget about it. Direct mail, $$$ Tried billboards ONCE, YIKE$! The door hanging gives us the biggest bang for the buck by far. I like cheap. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Most effective Marketing / Advertisement for us... Newspaper -- 1 ... 24 weeks... 2 responses road signs -- 5 if by this you mean yard signs like real estate agents use Direct mail -- 9 But see below... demo trucks -- never tried billboards -- never tried word of mouth -- 9 We started direct mail this year... But we do it differently than many. we drive by and record addresses and rate them as low cost, medium cost or high cost install. Then we mail pre-qualified for service flyer's to all the low cost ones offering $50 off the install good for 2-4 weeks. The response rate is around 4% Marco Coelho wrote: What have been the most effective Marketing or Advertising tools some of you have used? Rated 0-10, 0 being worst, 10 being Best For us: Newspaper Advertisement -- 0 Road Signs -- 7 Direct Mail -- 2 Demo Trucks -- 5 Billboards -- 3 Word of Mouth -- 7 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
