Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902

2010-11-09 Thread ~NGL~
What firmware are you using?

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 Haven't had that problem, but we are not on 5.0.5, try going backwards in 
 firmware and see what happens.

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Re: [WISPA] rebooting Tranzeo TR-902

2010-11-09 Thread Stuart Pierce
Haven't had that problem, but we are not on 5.0.5, try going backwards in 
firmware and see what happens.

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Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone

2010-11-09 Thread Chuck Profito
Well has any body tested one of these yet?  How's the camera res?

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 4:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone

Let us all know how that works out for you.  Key things I noticed when I
read the FAQ,

1.  the range will be greater if the AR drone is used in wide-open space
with few Wi-Fi waves.  Now, I am not a great technical wizard, but won't
the majority of users from the WISPA mailing list have some of those pesky
Wi-Fi waves kicking around?

2.  the AR.Drone can maintain STABLE FLIGHT (emphasis added by me) at a
height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet.  Now, Stable flight would be kind of 
important
when doing anything other than using it as a fun toy I would imagine.  I 
don't see
many water tanks under 20 feet - and if I did I carry a ladder.

All I was trying to do was get a bit more info out there on the thing, it 
looks like
a GREAT toy, and I am thinking about ordering one just to play around with, 
but
to expect it to be a dependable tool in your toolbox?  Buyer beware.  They 
put
plenty of warnings in the information on the manufacturers web page, (which
is what I posted) so don't expect STABLE FLIGHT
more than that 20 feet up, and be pleasently surprised if you get more
than the 20 feet.


? What is the range of the AR.Drone?

The range of the AR.Drone depends on the environment in which it is being 
used: the range will be greater if the AR.Drone is used in a wide-open space 
with few Wi-Fi waves. For information, the average range is 50 meters / 160 
feet.

? How high can the AR.Drone fly?

Thanks to its many sensors, the AR.Drone can maintain stable flight at a 
height of up to 6 meters / 20 feet. Since the altitude at which the AR.Drone 
can fly depends exclusively on the Wi-Fi range, it can fly up to a height of 
50 meters / 160 feet.

The Altitude limited option in the AR.Drone's settings can be adjusted to 
restrict the height to 3 meters / 10 feet.

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 Most water tanks are less than 160', so it would work fine for that.

 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com 
 wrote:

 http://ardrone.parrot.com/parrot-ar-drone/uk/support/questions-answers

 Going to have to be a short tower.


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 Subject: [WISPA] Remote Controlled Drone


 I have no idea if this would be on any use to anyone, but it seems like
  it might save a tower climb somewhere.
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I just use my 65' bucket truck!

I will one day build a trailer mounted crank up TV tower based system.  You can 
get them at 100'.  Often people will just give them away if we remove them.
marlon

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  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast


  Ralph rules!  I have loved that setup since I first saw it  Yes, the 
nuclear torpedo  

   

  Cool!!!

   

   

  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of rwf
  Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2010 5:05 PM
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  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

   

  Like this?

   

  http://ralphfowler.com

   

   

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Behalf Of Liam Cummings
  Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 11:53 PM
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  Subject: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

   

  Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast that I 
can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch? Oh yeah and it 
needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using something like this for our site 
surveys because it would be much easier than getting out the telescoping pole 
we use and having someone hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of 
just making one myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.



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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Patient
We stopped doing site surveys.  If they show they are covered on our 
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays,  we schedule an install.  If they 
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything.  We had too 
many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with you.


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On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:


Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast 
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow 
hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using 
something like this for our site surveys because it would be much 
easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone 
hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one 
myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.






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Re: [WISPA] OT; securing extension ladder to SUV roof rack

2010-11-09 Thread Gary Garrett

We use these. 2 on each ladder.

www.hookum*dano*.com/



On 11/8/2010 12:48 PM, Steven McGehee wrote:

Hi all,

Got a situation that I think a lot of you all probably deal with as
well. We have a service SUV with a roof rack that we use to transport a
28' extension ladder (14' in stored position). We use two straps to
secure the ladder and that method has served us well for years. The
problem is that it takes several minutes to do and not every one on our
staff knows the proper way to fully secure the ladder with this method.

Ultimately, I'm trying to find a quicker, easier way to secure this
ladder to the roof rack. Some type of clamping system instead of passing
straps through the rack and the ladder rungs would be great. I didn't
know if any of you had a method or product you'd recommend, but I
haven't found anything concrete yet after some Googling.

Thanks, and feel free to reply off-list as I know this is kind of OT.





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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread support
Same here we use Google and Street View no need for Site Surveys now 
with Google Earth :)


On 11/9/2010 12:15 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
We stopped doing site surveys.  If they show they are covered on our 
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays,  we schedule an install.  If they 
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything.  We had 
too many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with 
you.


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Desk: 636-692-4200
YIM: jeffcosoho
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www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com


On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:


Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast 
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow 
hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using 
something like this for our site surveys because it would be much 
easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having 
someone hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just 
making one myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.





 


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Re: [WISPA] OT; securing extension ladder to SUV roof rack

2010-11-09 Thread Gary Garrett

OK, I hate copy and paste.
Try this link.

www.hookemdano.com



On 11/9/2010 10:23 AM, Gary Garrett wrote:

We use these. 2 on each ladder.

www.hookum*dano*.com/



On 11/8/2010 12:48 PM, Steven McGehee wrote:

Hi all,

Got a situation that I think a lot of you all probably deal with as
well. We have a service SUV with a roof rack that we use to transport a
28' extension ladder (14' in stored position). We use two straps to
secure the ladder and that method has served us well for years. The
problem is that it takes several minutes to do and not every one on our
staff knows the proper way to fully secure the ladder with this method.

Ultimately, I'm trying to find a quicker, easier way to secure this
ladder to the roof rack. Some type of clamping system instead of passing
straps through the rack and the ladder rungs would be great. I didn't
know if any of you had a method or product you'd recommend, but I
haven't found anything concrete yet after some Googling.

Thanks, and feel free to reply off-list as I know this is kind of OT.





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Re: [WISPA] OT; securing extension ladder to SUV roof rack

2010-11-09 Thread Gary Garrett

OK, so I can't read or type either. Thats why I am an ISP.

www.hookumdano.com



On 11/9/2010 10:36 AM, Gary Garrett wrote:

OK, I hate copy and paste.
Try this link.

www.hookemdano.com



On 11/9/2010 10:23 AM, Gary Garrett wrote:

We use these. 2 on each ladder.

www.hookum*dano*.com/



On 11/8/2010 12:48 PM, Steven McGehee wrote:

Hi all,

Got a situation that I think a lot of you all probably deal with as
well. We have a service SUV with a roof rack that we use to transport a
28' extension ladder (14' in stored position). We use two straps to
secure the ladder and that method has served us well for years. The
problem is that it takes several minutes to do and not every one on our
staff knows the proper way to fully secure the ladder with this method.

Ultimately, I'm trying to find a quicker, easier way to secure this
ladder to the roof rack. Some type of clamping system instead of passing
straps through the rack and the ladder rungs would be great. I didn't
know if any of you had a method or product you'd recommend, but I
haven't found anything concrete yet after some Googling.

Thanks, and feel free to reply off-list as I know this is kind of OT.





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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed.  Site surveys are a waste of time.  If you're there, just 
install the customer.


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On 11/9/2010 12:15 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
We stopped doing site surveys.  If they show they are covered on our 
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays,  we schedule an install.  If they 
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything.  We had 
too many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with 
you.

Jim Patient
Cell: 314-565-6863
Desk: 636-692-4200
YIM: jeffcosoho
www.wlan1.com
www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com

On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:


Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast 
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow 
hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using 
something like this for our site surveys because it would be much 
easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having 
someone hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just 
making one myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.






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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread chris cooper
What about the customer that shows a solid GE value but has an
obstruction that prevents service?  Don't you get an unhappy prospect
that missed a day of work for an install that doesn't happen?
 
Chris
 
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Behalf Of Jim Patient
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast
 
We stopped doing site surveys.  If they show they are covered on our
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays,  we schedule an install.  If they
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything.  We had too
many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with you.


Jim Patient 
Cell: 314-565-6863 
Desk: 636-692-4200 
YIM: jeffcosoho
www.wlan1.com
www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com

On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote: 
Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch?
Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using something
like this for our site surveys because it would be much easier than
getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone hold it
steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one myself but
even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.
 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Cameron Kilton
There is never a perfect solution, some locations where we know it's 
iffy, we'll survey, others, we just book the install.




Thanks,
Cameron

On 11/9/2010 2:09 PM, chris cooper wrote:
 What about the customer that shows a solid GE value but has an
 obstruction that prevents service? Don’t you get an unhappy prospect
 that missed a day of work for an install that doesn’t happen?

 Chris

 -Original Message-
 *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 *On Behalf Of *Jim Patient
 *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:16 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

 We stopped doing site surveys. If they show they are covered on our
 Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays, we schedule an install. If they
 don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything. We had too
 many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with you.

 Jim Patient

 Cell: 314-565-6863

 Desk: 636-692-4200

 YIM: jeffcosoho

 www.wlan1.com  http://www.wlan1.com

 www.linktechs.net  http://www.linktechs.net

 www.wifimidwest.com  http://www.wifimidwest.com


 On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:

 Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast
 that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch?
 Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too. I want to start using something
 like this for our site surveys because it would be much easier than
 getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone hold it
 steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one myself but
 even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.









 

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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins




We just flipped from booking an install to doing site surveys. Even
when checking google earth and radio mobile approximately 50% of
installs booked would fail due to foliage being in the way. We can have
over 1 hour drive time to get to some of these locations. For us its
much more sensible to drive out to that area and do a few surveys then
book the for sure installs.

On 11/09/2010 10:15 AM, Jim Patient wrote:

  
We stopped doing "site surveys". If they show they are covered on our
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays, we schedule an install. If they
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything. We had too
many great signals with "ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with you".
  Jim Patient 
Cell: 314-565-6863 
Desk: 636-692-4200 
YIM: jeffcosoho
www.wlan1.com
www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com
  
On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:
  




Anyone know of a place
where I can get some sort of telescoping mast that I can tow behind me
in my truck or maybe just put on my tow hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to
be cheap too. I want to start using something like this for our site
surveys because it would be much easier than getting out the
telescoping pole we use and having someone hold it steady with a radio
on it. I was thinking of just making one myself but even the
telescoping pole itself is hard to find.





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Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Patient
We have our coverage maps tuned in pretty good.  We get one every now 
and then that we can't hit.  Most of those are the guy at the edge on 
the map and we go out anyway.  I give the installer $25 for a nogo.  He 
fills out our online nogo form with GPS info and we use those to scope 
out new repeater locations.   When we get several in the same area,  we 
start looking for a high spot to throw up a repeater.


Our topology makes it pretty tough.  Our hills are 300-800' and the 
trees are 70-80'.  If your not going up a hill then your going down 
one.  We have to hit hill top to hill top and shoot down through the 
hollers.  There is no getting surprised with trees.  We know they are 
there and in the wrong place every time;-)


We usually schedule questionable sites in the late afternoon.  If they 
take off early and we can't hit them, so sad but not much I can do about 
that.  Very few things in life are for sure.  Normally they don't get 
mad they just start begging for a tower or miracle to get them service.


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Desk: 636-692-4200
YIM: jeffcosoho
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On 11/9/2010 1:09 PM, chris cooper wrote:


What about the customer that shows a solid GE value but has an 
obstruction that prevents service?Don't you get an unhappy prospect 
that missed a day of work for an install that doesn't happen?


Chris

-Original Message-
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*On Behalf Of *Jim Patient

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 1:16 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Telescoping Mast

We stopped doing site surveys.  If they show they are covered on our 
Radio Mobile Google Earth overlays,  we schedule an install.  If they 
don't get a good signal then we don't charge them anything.  We had 
too many great signals with ok I'll talk to my wife and get back with 
you.


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On 11/5/2010 10:53 PM, Liam Cummings wrote:

Anyone know of a place where I can get some sort of telescoping mast 
that I can tow behind me in my truck or maybe just put on my tow 
hitch? Oh yeah and it needs to be cheap too.  I want to start using 
something like this for our site surveys because it would be much 
easier than getting out the telescoping pole we use and having someone 
hold it steady with a radio on it. I was thinking of just making one 
myself but even the telescoping pole itself is hard to find.


  

  
  
  


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[WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread rwf
Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet?
How did it work?

Anyone know who has some in stock?

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[WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
some towers here that are now sitting all over the 5755 making it
totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?

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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Robert West
I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs
aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be
gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)



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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins
With the only certified antenna for the RocketM900 being the 13dbi panel 
I am skeptical about its performance. In addition the LocoM900 is only 
7dbi. I however am losing access to 900 due to the smart meters in the 
area. AirSelect might help with performance and maintain some ability to 
use 900 in the coming future, but only if Ubiquiti is willing to expand 
on its range of available antennas.

On 11/09/2010 11:30 AM, rwf wrote:
 Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet?
 How did it work?

 Anyone know who has some in stock?

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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Cameron Kilton
Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why 
they don't go licensed.



Thanks,
Cameron Kilton

On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
 some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
 totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
 try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?

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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Blair Davis


  
  
We want bullets!

On 11/9/2010 2:35 PM, Robert West wrote:

  I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs
aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be
gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)



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Re: [WISPA] OT; securing extension ladder to SUV roof rack

2010-11-09 Thread Marco Coelho
We just use the standard roof racks, but they even have gas shock lifters on
some.

http://earlowen.com/flipbook/index.html?page=294

Marco

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote:

  OK, so I can't read or type either. Thats why I am an ISP.

 www.hookumdano.com




 On 11/9/2010 10:36 AM, Gary Garrett wrote:

 OK, I hate copy and paste.
 Try this link.

 www.hookemdano.com



 On 11/9/2010 10:23 AM, Gary Garrett wrote:

 We use these. 2 on each ladder.

 www.hookum*dano*.com/



 On 11/8/2010 12:48 PM, Steven McGehee wrote:

 Hi all,

 Got a situation that I think a lot of you all probably deal with as
 well. We have a service SUV with a roof rack that we use to transport a
 28' extension ladder (14' in stored position). We use two straps to
 secure the ladder and that method has served us well for years. The
 problem is that it takes several minutes to do and not every one on our
 staff knows the proper way to fully secure the ladder with this method.

 Ultimately, I'm trying to find a quicker, easier way to secure this
 ladder to the roof rack. Some type of clamping system instead of passing
 straps through the rack and the ladder rungs would be great. I didn't
 know if any of you had a method or product you'd recommend, but I
 haven't found anything concrete yet after some Googling.

 Thanks, and feel free to reply off-list as I know this is kind of OT.




 
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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Got my CPE's two days ago...

On 11/9/2010 12:35 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs
 aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be
 gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)



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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Stock was gone a month ago... before it ever arrived.

On 11/9/2010 12:30 PM, rwf wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Kristian Hoffmann
RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired customers as
well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an RB493AH
might be worth the few extra dollars.

Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

/ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
  in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop


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On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
They would all work with that diagram (assuming you pick one with a mini pci
slot).  How much traffic are you wanting to push through the unit?  Any more
complicated configuration then what was shown (tunnels, bgp, pppoe, etc)?

The 411a would probably be the cheapest option. Or the 411a + radio built in
(is that R)?

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[WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread Marco Coelho
I was looking for something non related to this and came across this
video.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1192512888


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Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Man, that made me tingle watching that stuff fall...

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was looking for something non related to this and came across this
 video.


 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1192512888


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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins
I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control. 
Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless 
with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus 
indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I 
would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull 
out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

Thanks

On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired customers as
 well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an RB493AH
 might be worth the few extra dollars.

 Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

 /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop


 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?

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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the radio built in) would
work.  If you need a better radio get an rb411a + xr2.  You only get ONE
ethernet port - ever!

I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better then
not enough.

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On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

 I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
 Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
 with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
 indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
 would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
 out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

 Thanks

 On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
  RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired customers as
  well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an RB493AH
  might be worth the few extra dollars.
 
  Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...
 
  /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
 in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop
 
 
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  What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins




I need 2 or 3 ethernet ports

On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the
radio built in) would work. If you need a better radio get an rb411a +
xr2. You only get ONE ethernet port - ever!
  
I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better
then not enough.
  
Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Jenkins
  m...@smarterbroadband.net
wrote:
  I
will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

Thanks


On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 RB493 with an R52Hn? That way you have 8 ports for wired
customers as
 well. If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an
RB493AH
 might be worth the few extra dollars.

 Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

 /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
  in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action="">


 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the
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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread rwf
I just bought all the Locos Baltic had left. Sorry guys.
They have about 85 sectors and Rockets left though.

Ralph

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Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

Got my CPE's two days ago...

On 11/9/2010 12:35 PM, Robert West wrote:
 I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the 
 CPEs aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets 
 will be gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)



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 Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet?
 How did it work?

 Anyone know who has some in stock?

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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Robert West
I'm hearin' ya, bro.

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

 

We want bullets!

On 11/9/2010 2:35 PM, Robert West wrote: 

I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs
aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be
gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)
 
 
 
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Behalf Of rwf
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:31 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear
 
Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet?
How did it work?
 
Anyone know who has some in stock?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins




Why the extra for an XR2 vs 1/3 the cost for a R52?

On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the
radio built in) would work. If you need a better radio get an rb411a +
xr2. You only get ONE ethernet port - ever!
  
I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better
then not enough.
  
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Jenkins
  m...@smarterbroadband.net
wrote:
  I
will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

Thanks


On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 RB493 with an R52Hn? That way you have 8 ports for wired
customers as
 well. If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an
RB493AH
 might be worth the few extra dollars.

 Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

 /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
  in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action="">


 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the
picture?

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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Jim Patient
65mW on the r52 and 600mW on the XR2.  Just depends on how much power 
you need.  The 433ah board gives you 3 ethernet ports and has enough 
horsepower for what you need.  We have them in stock and can build it 
and even configure it for you if needed.


Hit me off-list if you would like some help with it.

If you want to order over the web just use discount code wispa.

Jim Patient

Cell: 314-565-6863
Desk: 636-692-4200
YIM: jeffcosoho
www.wlan1.com
www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com


On 11/9/2010 3:11 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

Why the extra for an XR2 vs 1/3 the cost for a R52?

On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the radio built in) 
would work.  If you need a better radio get an rb411a + xr2.  You 
only get ONE ethernet port - ever!


I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is 
better then not enough.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Jenkins 
m...@smarterbroadband.net mailto:m...@smarterbroadband.net wrote:


I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g
wireless
with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a
port. I
would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to
build. Pull
out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

Thanks

On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired
customers as
 well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an
RB493AH
 might be worth the few extra dollars.

 Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

 /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop


 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the
picture?

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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Even at the same tx power the XR2 has a better receive sensitivity - that's
what I like about it.  Picks up the laptops talking better.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

  65mW on the r52 and 600mW on the XR2.  Just depends on how much power you
 need.  The 433ah board gives you 3 ethernet ports and has enough horsepower
 for what you need.  We have them in stock and can build it and even
 configure it for you if needed.

 Hit me off-list if you would like some help with it.

 If you want to order over the web just use discount code wispa.

 Jim Patient

 Cell: 314-565-6863
 Desk: 636-692-4200
 YIM: jeffcosohowww.wlan1.comwww.linktechs.netwww.wifimidwest.com


 On 11/9/2010 3:11 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 Why the extra for an XR2 vs 1/3 the cost for a R52?

 On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the radio built in) would
 work.  If you need a better radio get an rb411a + xr2.  You only get ONE
 ethernet port - ever!

 I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better
 then not enough.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

 I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
 Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
 with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
 indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
 would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
 out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

 Thanks

 On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
  RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired customers as
  well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an RB493AH
  might be worth the few extra dollars.
 
  Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...
 
  /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
 in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action=drop
 
 
  -Kristian
 
  On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 
  What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?
 
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Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school. 
Why the engineering drawings need to be followed and avoid field 
redesigns.

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On 11/9/2010 3:41 PM, Marco Coelho wrote:
 I was looking for something non related to this and came across this
 video.


 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6b5_1192512888


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Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Few engineers ever saw the field.  :-p

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On 11/9/2010 3:29 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school.
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Jenkins




Ah. This one is for a 1900 sq ft office with a bunch of independent
realtors who all want their own service. They are all cheap bastards
and dont want to pay anything extra. I want to be as cheap as possible,
but work. I think the 433 with R52 will give me what I need. Thanks for
the help finding the right board.

- Matt

On 11/09/2010 01:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Even at the same tx power the XR2 has a better receive
sensitivity - that's what I like about it. Picks up the laptops
talking better.
  
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
  
  
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
wrote:
  
 65mW on the r52 and 600mW on
the XR2. Just depends on how much power you need. The 433ah board
gives you 3 ethernet ports and has enough horsepower for what you
need. We have them in stock and can build it and even configure it for
you if needed. 

Hit me off-list if you would like some help with it.

If you want to order over the web just use discount code wispa.

Jim Patient 
Cell: 314-565-6863 
Desk: 636-692-4200 
YIM: jeffcosoho
www.wlan1.com
www.linktechs.net
www.wifimidwest.com

 
On 11/9/2010 3:11 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 Why the extra for an XR2 vs 1/3 the cost
for a R52?
  
On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
  It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or
whatever has the radio built in) would work. If you need a better
radio get an rb411a + xr2. You only get ONE ethernet port - ever!

I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better
then not enough.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Matt
Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.net
wrote:
I

will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
out of packaging and load prebuilt config.
  
Thanks
  
  
On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
 RB493 with an R52Hn? That way you have 8 ports for wired
customers as
 well. If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an
RB493AH
 might be worth the few extra dollars.

 Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...

 /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
  in-interface=!ether1 out-interface=!ether1 action="">


 -Kristian

 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the
picture?

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Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Here's an article about the incident with additional photos:

http://ethics.tamu.edu/ethics/tvtower/tv3.htm

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On 11/9/2010 4:29 PM, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:
 This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school.
 Why the engineering drawings need to be followed and avoid field
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Try Streakwave...there are a lot of places to ge tthem.  Roc Noc has a live
stock thing on their website.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Matt Jenkins m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

  Ah. This one is for a 1900 sq ft office with a bunch of independent
 realtors who all want their own service. They are all cheap bastards and
 dont want to pay anything extra. I want to be as cheap as possible, but
 work. I think the 433 with R52 will give me what I need. Thanks for the help
 finding the right board.

 - Matt


 On 11/09/2010 01:24 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 Even at the same tx power the XR2 has a better receive sensitivity - that's
 what I like about it.  Picks up the laptops talking better.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373


 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote:

  65mW on the r52 and 600mW on the XR2.  Just depends on how much power you
 need.  The 433ah board gives you 3 ethernet ports and has enough horsepower
 for what you need.  We have them in stock and can build it and even
 configure it for you if needed.

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 On 11/9/2010 3:11 PM, Matt Jenkins wrote:

 Why the extra for an XR2 vs 1/3 the cost for a R52?

 On 11/09/2010 12:54 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 It looks to me like the rb411ahr (or whatever has the radio built in)
 would work.  If you need a better radio get an rb411a + xr2.  You only get
 ONE ethernet port - ever!

 I would probably go with the rb493ah and xr2 - too many ports is better
 then not enough.

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 m...@smarterbroadband.netwrote:

 I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control.
 Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless
 with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus
 indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I
 would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull
 out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

 Thanks

 On 11/09/2010 12:40 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:
  RB493 with an R52Hn?  That way you have 8 ports for wired customers as
  well.  If you want elaborate QoS with queue trees and such, an RB493AH
  might be worth the few extra dollars.
 
  Sneaky one-liner to block inter-client traffic...
 
  /ip firewall filter add chain=forward \
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: 
 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?

ANY routerboard with an Atheros card and level 4 license would work for
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:49 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote: 
 I will need to do 1 simple queue per customer for throughput control. 
 Total traffic would be about 5-7 mbps. Need a single 802.11b/g wireless 
 with internal antenna. All of the customers will be laptops or ruckus 
 indoor wireless units. Only 1 customer will be plugged in to a port. I 
 would like to get a complete box that my guys don't have to build. Pull 
 out of packaging and load prebuilt config.

How soon do you need it?  Hit me offlist and I'll get this together for
you.

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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Needs multiple ethernet ports and a radio.  Doesn't work for 1100 or 750 or
411.
On Nov 9, 2010 4:56 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 12:29 -0800, Matt Jenkins wrote:
 What mikrotik would be best for doing what is shown in the picture?

 ANY routerboard with an Atheros card and level 4 license would work for
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 16:58 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Needs multiple ethernet ports and a radio.  Doesn't work for 1100 or
 750 or 411.

lol...I said with an Atheros card, so obviously 1100 and 750 are out.
411AH (or other 411 varieties with level 4 license) will work if you use
vlans and a switch.  ;-)  See what happens when you top post?  DUCKING

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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Jerry Richardson
Why wouldn't you use UBNT? 
What's the point of the VLAN's?

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[WISPA] Inventory Management

2010-11-09 Thread Kevin Owen
What if anything is everybody using for inventory management of your various 
equipment products?

We are beginning to carry more stock for items/projects but we need a way to 
track and account for inventory.  Is anybody else dealing with this?

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Re: [WISPA] bad day at a tower in Texas 1982

2010-11-09 Thread RickG
I remember that. Poor guys were falling like ants :(
The tower sections were so deeply embedded into the ground that they could
not be dug out. They were merely cut off 2 feet below natural grade and left
in the ground:

Another site that hits home:
http://www.wirelessestimator.com/generaldoc.cfm?ContentID=9

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Patrick Shoemaker 
shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com wrote:

 Here's an article about the incident with additional photos:

 http://ethics.tamu.edu/ethics/tvtower/tv3.htm

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  This disaster was used as an example when I was in engineering school.
  Why the engineering drawings need to be followed and avoid field
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
 they don't go licensed.



 Thanks,
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 On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
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 totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread RickG
I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly
discussed with their engineers and made progress that way.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote:

 I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
 have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
 it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
 airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
 UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
 if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
  Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
  they don't go licensed.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Cameron Kilton
 
  On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
  some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
  totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
  try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Inventory Management

2010-11-09 Thread Robert West
We also have a retail store so we have all equipment and products in our
inventory system in the point of sale software.  All inventory has a
location so if it's installed the location is the customer's name and
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut
60 miles away.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly
 discussed with their engineers and made progress that way.

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 wrote:

 I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
 have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
 it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
 airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
 UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
 if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
  Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
  they don't go licensed.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Cameron Kilton
 
  On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
  some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
  totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
  try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
 
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread RickG
I drove at least that far to get to their nearest CO and fix the
situation.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.netwrote:

 VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut
 60 miles away.

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly
  discussed with their engineers and made progress that way.
 
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
  wrote:
 
  I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
  have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
  it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
  airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
  UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
  if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).
 
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com
 wrote:
   Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
   they don't go licensed.
  
  
  
   Thanks,
   Cameron Kilton
  
   On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
   Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
   some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
   totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
   try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
  
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
If I knew of a manned one, I would look into it. Know if one in
Oregon, Washington, or Idaho?

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 8:08 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 I drove at least that far to get to their nearest CO and fix the
 situation.

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 wrote:

 VZW does not have CO's here. Closest thing they have is a unmanned hut
 60 miles away.

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
  I had a similar issue a years ago. I went down to their CO and kindly
  discussed with their engineers and made progress that way.
 
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
  wrote:
 
  I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
  have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
  it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
  airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
  UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
  if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).
 
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com
  wrote:
   Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
   they don't go licensed.
  
  
  
   Thanks,
   Cameron Kilton
  
   On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
   Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
   some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
   totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
   try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
  
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Tom DeReggi
Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to 
deliver a few T1s.
The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do.  They sub it out to a 
contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the 
least planning.
Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg 
gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use 
the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others 
can step on them.  I hate that.

One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the 
cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at 
a discount.
ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the 
big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its 
unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that 
specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to 
use that spectrum at the tower nailed down.  So you might be able to license 
the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try.  They likely are only 
protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the 
ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement.
You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft 
of seperation.

I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the 
gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a 
given.

Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to 
interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always 
creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact


I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
 have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
 it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
 airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
 UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
 if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
 they don't go licensed.



 Thanks,
 Cameron Kilton

 On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
 some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
 totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
 try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?

 Jeromie


 
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Re: [WISPA] Need Mikrotik Wireless help

2010-11-09 Thread Josh Luthman
Whoopsy daisy!

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 On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 16:58 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote:
  Needs multiple ethernet ports and a radio.  Doesn't work for 1100 or
  750 or 411.

 lol...I said with an Atheros card, so obviously 1100 and 750 are out.
 411AH (or other 411 varieties with level 4 license) will work if you use
 vlans and a switch.  ;-)  See what happens when you top post?  DUCKING

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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread RickG
Back when I worked for ATT Wireless, we had a contractor do that exact
thing. We had some complaints and made the contractor switch to licensed.

On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote:

 Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band
 to
 deliver a few T1s.
 The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do.  They sub it out to
 a
 contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the
 least planning.
 Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg
 gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use
 the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others
 can step on them.  I hate that.

 One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the
 cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even
 at
 a discount.
 ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the
 big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its
 unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that
 specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to
 use that spectrum at the tower nailed down.  So you might be able to
 license
 the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try.  They likely are only
 protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the
 ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement.
 You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a
 100ft
 of seperation.

 I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the
 gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a
 given.

 Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to
 interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always
 creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather.


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact


 I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
  have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
  it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
  airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
  UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
  if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).
 
  On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com
 wrote:
  Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
  they don't go licensed.
 
 
 
  Thanks,
  Cameron Kilton
 
  On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
  Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
  some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
  totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
  try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?
 
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to
 deliver a few T1s.
 The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do.  They sub it out to a
 contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the
 least planning.
 Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg
 gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use
 the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others
 can step on them.  I hate that.

Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to
very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking.


 One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the
 cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at
 a discount.

As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on
those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and
really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various
performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365.  I am one
persona here)

 ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the
 big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its
 unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that
 specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to
 use that spectrum at the tower nailed down.  So you might be able to license
 the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try.  They likely are only
 protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the
 ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement.
 You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft
 of seperation.

No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers
and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at
oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again


 I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the
 gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a
 given.

True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person.


 Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to
 interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always
 creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather.

True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or
I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a
better survey dangerous).

The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet
east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in
elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and
snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I
drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very
strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am
going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance
acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also
going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays
out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now.



 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeromie Reeves jree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact


I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
 have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
 it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
 airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
 UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
 if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com wrote:
 Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
 they don't go licensed.



 Thanks,
 Cameron Kilton

 On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
 some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
 totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
 try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?

 Jeromie


 
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Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact

2010-11-09 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Put up an AP using StarOS and noisebuster mode nearby on an 
overlapping channel.   Watch their 5.8 backhaul magically disappear and 
be replaced by something else within a fairly short period of time.

Problem solved.

Matt Larsen
vistabeam.com


On 11/9/2010 10:56 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net  wrote:
 Sounds like Tsunami/Linx equivellent, running DSSS using most of the band to
 deliver a few T1s.
 The carriers use unlicenced for the same reason we do.  They sub it out to a
 contractor, and then the contractor comes up with a solution that takes the
 least planning.
 Dont take it personally, the carriers usually dont use the Spectrum hogg
 gear to hurt you, instead they use it for selfish reasons. They figure use
 the protocol that require the least SNR so they minimize the risk of others
 can step on them.  I hate that.
 Whoa back up. Sorry, I am not taking it personally, or at least not to
 very much. Poor joke mixed in with a bit of wishful thinking.

 One option is that you can deploy licensed wireless, and then go to the
 cellular company and try to sell them a more reliable circuit, maybe even at
 a discount.
 As soon as I can buy some Ubnt 3.65 gear I will be. An no, no one on
 those towers will be buying from me (because I am to small a fish and
 really do have little interest in them, since I can not meet various
 performance goals like X hour response time 24/7/365.  I am one
 persona here)

 ONe thing that you might be able to use to your advantage is. Often the
 big carrier deploys unlicensed with the mentality that because its
 unlicensed that they dont have to tell anyone at the tower, or license that
 specific freq with teh tower owner. Meaning, they may not have the right to
 use that spectrum at the tower nailed down.  So you might be able to license
 the use of that spectrum at the site, if you try.  They likely are only
 protected by a first in non-interference clause, if they listed the
 ubnlicensed gear in their tower agreement.
 You might be able to re-use the spectrum if you give your self about a 100ft
 of seperation.
 No way will I get that. Tower owner gets around 60K/mo from 4 towers
 and the subleases. My talks to get up there are pretty much stalled at
 oh you can't start off with 10K/mo? Don't call me again

 I guess my point is Dont assume that The cellular carrier who owns the
 gear is the one that you have to negotiate with. Thats not necessarilly a
 given.
 True, but I have to contact them to find out who is the right person.

 Remember, interference can be bi-directional. And you ahve the ability to
 interfere with them if you also use inefficient technology. That always
 creates some leverage for everyone to play nice togeather.
 True in most cases. I think in this one, they are running illegal, or
 I have not truely pinned the right source (snow has made doing a
 better survey dangerous).

 The scan that shows the signal is aimed to a tower that is 7060 feet
 east of where the interference is coming from, and 1300ft low in
 elevation. I have not been able to get on the metal roof (10/12 and
 snow) and re-aim to see if i can tune it out. No mater where in town I
 drove, if I aimed at the towers on the hill, I had this signal very
 strong and clear. I have a airmax link that its obliterating. I am
 going to edge as close to it as I can and keep my performance
 acceptable. This might make the people move, it might not. I am also
 going to put in a par of 2.4ghz airmax units and see how that plays
 out. I only need 20mbit to the site for now.


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: Jeromie Reevesjree...@18-30chat.net
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] VZW, USCC Contact


 I figured it might be a upcliff battle. That is what gets me, they DO
 have licensed. My guess is someone figured out if they squish the band
 it slow us down. Fully HALF the lower UNII4 band is hosed here, even
 airmax is not working. Oh how I wish Ubnt would come out with some
 UNII2/3 gear (namely, just add DFS2 to the existing product, or maybe
 if the crazy idea that WE need to avoid military radar would go away).

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Cameron Kiltonc...@midcoast.com  wrote:
 Good luck, we had a similar issue, I'm still trying to figure out why
 they don't go licensed.



 Thanks,
 Cameron Kilton

 On 11/9/2010 2:30 PM, Jeromie Reeves wrote:
 Anyone have a contact at Verizon Wireless or Us Cellular? They have
 some towers here that are now sitting all over the5755 making it
 totally unusable and some other portions of the band. Would like to
 try to work out some frequency sharing, anyone ever been able to?

 Jeromie


 
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Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear

2010-11-09 Thread Jeromie Reeves
grrr. My reps said they would not even HAVE shipments in till after Jan.


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 1:09 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I’m hearin’ ya, bro.







 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Blair Davis
 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:09 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear



 We want bullets!

 On 11/9/2010 2:35 PM, Robert West wrote:

 I've been able to find the sectors and rockets for some time but the CPEs

 aren't available.  Once they show up then the sectors and rockets will be

 gone.  Grab what ya can when you can!  :)







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 Behalf Of rwf

 Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 2:31 PM

 To: 'WISPA General List'

 Subject: [WISPA] New UBNT 900 gear



 Anyone tried any of the UBNT 900 gear yet?

 How did it work?



 Anyone know who has some in stock?



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