Re: [WISPA] Facebook ads
Do you have any examples I can iterate off of? Or does anyone know someone who can, for $$, create stuff for us? Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 12:32 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Facebook ads Facebook is the best advertising you can buy if executed correctly! We have relied exclusively on it for the last 18 months. Need to take care of: Correct message Good images/art Good targeting Timing Offer From:on behalf of David Funderburk Organization: GlobalVision Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 Reply-To: WISPA General List Date: Thursday, January 19, 2017 at 11:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Facebook ads If you are or know of a WISP/ISP who has successfully used Facebook ads, would you please send me some links to it? We are going to give it a try but wanted to see what others have done in our industry. Thanks David Funderburk GlobalVision 864-569-0703 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate
How did you check it? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2016 8:47 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Powercode 477 Data Grossly Inaccurate Working on our 477, mapped the deployment data from powercode in our GIS software, we found it was grossly inaccurate, probably only has 10% of the blocks in the file compared to ones where we have customers. Has anyone else noticed this? We were previously not mapping the output and just blindly submitting it bad idea... we were grossly under reporting our coverage. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against?
Wow, that was well thought out. I'd say that's a pretty good assessment! Kevin - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein f...@interisle.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quick Question: Title II, for or against? On 11/19/2014 8:49 AM, Drew Lentz wrote: I put up a quick poll, results will be shared and are anonymous. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/3R6YTH9 I'm curious to see what the percentages are between those that support and those that don't support the Title II argument. I've been trying to get a good feel for who would and wouldn't like it (mostly it seems carriers love it, web services hate it.) I have a feeling WISPs might be on the hate it side, but I'm interested to find out. Thanks for your answer and have a fantastic day! You asked the question very poorly, so there is no one correct answer. Broadband is an adjective. You don't regulate adjectives, you regulate nouns. Broadband what? This is the fallacy of today's public discourse -- they are using this adjective as a noun without the noun, so different people use it to have different referents. I think I'm in pretty close harmony with the WISPA position here, given that Steve Coran chose me to help him give his NN talk in Vegas last month based on my detailed Comments on the topic to the FCC. And I've been writing and Commenting on this for years. Several years ago I told the FCC that they were using this adjective as a noun, but that they could separate the two primary implied nouns by using a Spanish-language convention. El Broadband would refer to the physical facility, the high speed transmission medium. La Broadband would refer to the content of the facility, including Internet service delivered over it. (If you don't know Spanish, el radio is a device and la radio is a program.) But in lawyer terms, El Broadband is the telecommunications component, and La Broadband is the information service riding atop it. The reason NN is a Thing is that the FCC, in 2005, threw away the law (TA96) and decided that telephone companies could stop being common carriers, stop providing ISPs with El Broadband (raw DSL), and simply sell La Broadband as a vertically-integrated service with exclusive access to their formerly common-carrier facilities. So typical consumers in cities went from having many ISP choices (one cable company and many ISPs available via DSL) to two (one each cable and DSL). The public reaction to this was, understandably, rather negative. They recognized that they could be screwed by their cable and telco duopolists (monopolists in many areas, and more in the future as the ILECs abandon their copper plant without replacing it). But not recognizing the difference between a network (what carries IP) and an internetwork (the Internet itself, content slung across many networks), they demanded network neutrality referring to the ISP function itself. And the FCC obliged, being basically political, by proposing the regulation of Internet services, but not regulating the actual telecom provided by the monopolists. So I'm in favor of applying Title II to the actual telecommunications component of broadband services provided by incumbents, and those using rivalrous facilities (those that exclude others, including pole attachments, conduits, and exclusively-licensed frequencies). But those who only compete with incumbent cable and telco, or who use non-rivalrous facilities and frequencies (that includes essentially all WISPs), would not fall under Title II whatsoever, and neither would the Internet backbone or anything done on the Internet itself (IP layer on up, but this does not refer to IP-based voice services provided by facility owners). So I'm in favor of Title II for some broadband stuff (where it opens monopoly wire to competitive ISPs) but not others (where it regulates the Internet or WISPs). Got it? That's why the question is wrong. -- Fred R. Goldstein k1iofred at interisle.net Interisle Consulting Group +1 617 795 2701 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption
Who is everyone else using/going to? Kevin - Original Message - From: Joe Fiero To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption Thanks Ralph, I know Lauri for years. At this point migration is my focus. The disruption to business for us and many of our clients, especially business and professionals, is beyond description. I don't know if there is anything left to talk about with them, last I saw their stock was at $0.0007 per share. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 5:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption Joe- Dunno if it will help you but I have this contact info from when we were trying to get our deposit back for months: Lauri J. Vertrees Director of Operations Pervasip Corp 75 South Broadway, Suite 400 White Plains, NY 10601 Ofc: 914-750-6626 Fax: 866-214-2532 lvertr...@pervasip.com lvertr...@voxcorp.net www.pervasip.com www.voxcorp.net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Fiero Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 11:33 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption No warning, no discussion, note went out at 7pm From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of ralph Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:04 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption What a casual sounding message they sent! How can they act like that isn't serious!?!? So glad we fired them in 2012! Good luck, Joe! Hope you can get those numbers ported. Did they even tell you what upstream carrier has them? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Fiero Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 7:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] VoX VoIP serevice interruption Anyone else using VoX for VoIP service? We lost inbound calling today. I just received this from VoX: Dear Customer, At approximately 1:00PM EDT today one of our main suppliers of inbound phone numbers disconnected us. We apologize for this. We know it will cause problems for some customers. VoX did everything it could to keep all services running smoothly. Unfortunately, this was unavoidable. This problem should not affect outbound calls and we urge you to email customerc...@voxcorp.net should you have issues calling out from your VoX service. Due to recent problems the company has had raising funds for continued operations, we have had to make some very tough decisions with the resources and carriers that are currently available to us. If your service was affected because of this issue, you have two options. 1. We can offer you a replacement phone number in your rate center at no cost to you. 2. You can switch your service to another phone company. If you want a replacement phone number, please send an email to customerc...@voxcorp.net. Please be sure to include your account number, or, current VoX phone number. Thank You, VoX Support Team Comments? -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Monopole mount
Hello, I've got a customer who's apparently installed a 120' monopole so they'll be able to get service from us. Anyone have a bead on a monopole mount? I looked it up on Tessco, and they seemed to be $500ish. I'd like to find something more like $150. Thanks, Kevin___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
We actually sent it back directly to Dragonwave, and they said it was an older unit with limited stock. It was $4200 for the new unit, and $800 for assessing the broken unit. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Exactly my point. It doesn't make sense that someone representing Dragonwave would state this is a $5k repair, not saying it didn't happen, just saying it doesn't make sense to me. Even DragonWave, which I think has the perception of being higher priced, shouldn't have a one side $5k repair/ replace on an ODU. The last time I priced a DragonWave path and a Trango path side by side, they were very close in price so at least at the time, DragonWave wasn't particularly out of line with the others in this space. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 9:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Hell, other vendors that have been in teh sapce a long time are just over that for the entire link (including dishes). - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2012 1:20:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Yikes, That doesn’t sound good from DragonWave’s perspective. At $5k, that is nearly the cost for the entire radio path, (not counting antennas, PONE, etc) Can’t imagine why they would charge such a price. Were you working directly with DragonWave or through a vendor? We do most of our DragonWave purchasing through Tessco. Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 11:12 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango We've used a few Trango, no SAF, and one Dragonwave. We had one of the Trango units recieve a near-lightning strike, which completely killed it. We sent it in, and they fixed it for $600, (out of warranty). We put it back up, and it failed about six months later. We sent it in, and we had it back fixed from Trango under warranty, (since they had just repaired it six month before), in four business days. Their support so far seems pretty quick, and $600 for a lightning repair seems reasonable. Dragonwave was a total pain. The link was a fair amount more expensive than Trango, and when the ODU broke out-of-warranty, they told us we had to buy a new ODU -- for $5,000. It's now sitting out in my warehouse, has been for over a year. Still don't know why that ODU broke, they just said it was bad. I still think that the whole licensed link scene is a bit overpriced. I'd put them up like hotcakes if we could do 250mbps for $5k, installed. But, then, so would everyone else. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating Trango vs. SAF, have you considered DragonWave? If you have ruled them out can you share why? They do only have a one year standard warranty but when we evaluated bids for large project a few years ago, the vendor for SAF at the time was only offering a 3 year standard warranty. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.net ; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here. I'm actually deciding on Trango vs SAF right now. Once I start with one vendor I want to stick with it for all future links to reduce the different spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango
We've used a few Trango, no SAF, and one Dragonwave. We had one of the Trango units recieve a near-lightning strike, which completely killed it. We sent it in, and they fixed it for $600, (out of warranty). We put it back up, and it failed about six months later. We sent it in, and we had it back fixed from Trango under warranty, (since they had just repaired it six month before), in four business days. Their support so far seems pretty quick, and $600 for a lightning repair seems reasonable. Dragonwave was a total pain. The link was a fair amount more expensive than Trango, and when the ODU broke out-of-warranty, they told us we had to buy a new ODU -- for $5,000. It's now sitting out in my warehouse, has been for over a year. Still don't know why that ODU broke, they just said it was bad. I still think that the whole licensed link scene is a bit overpriced. I'd put them up like hotcakes if we could do 250mbps for $5k, installed. But, then, so would everyone else. Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 8:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango At First Step we started deploying DragonWave units long ago and in an effort to keep the network somewhat consistent, we have been installing them ever since. (~ 100 paths installed) We have been very happy with the product and support. I am curious for those of you that are evaluating Trango vs. SAF, have you considered DragonWave? If you have ruled them out can you share why? They do only have a one year standard warranty but when we evaluated bids for large project a few years ago, the vendor for SAF at the time was only offering a 3 year standard warranty. Thanks, Kevin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 6:49 AM To: can...@believewireless.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] SAF vs Trango Why are you doing all new links with SAF is the question being asked here. I'm actually deciding on Trango vs SAF right now. Once I start with one vendor I want to stick with it for all future links to reduce the different spares. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:44 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: All things equal, SAF has a 5 year warranty and fantastic tech support. We have both Trango and SAF in our network and now all new links are SAF exclusively. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor
You could just stick one of these in: http://alyrica.net/net_hatchet Kevin - Original Message - From: Chuck Profito To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor the most inexpensive is in your trash pile, a power pinger, or CB3 radio, plug it in on the line side of the UPS and just ping it every minute and you will know when you are on battery. Conversely for a generator. also a camera facing a set of gages, voltage, line, generator, oil pressure, temp, etc. Your probably too young to remember the cable weather channel same thing but with music. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Troy Settle Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2012 5:45 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Inexpensive alarm monitor We've recently installed generators at several sites, but have not yet found an affordable solution for monitoring them. Does anyone know of a simple product that will enable me to monitor these things? Everything I've found is super expensive. All I really need, is a simple device that can be wired into the alarm contacts on the transfer switch. I'm not (yet) concerned about monitoring other metrics. Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net -- ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Low-cost CLEC market entry approach for unsubsidized competitor
Sounds interesting. My wife started a CLEC several years ago, but then got busy with some other projects, and not much has been done with it yet. Kevin - Original Message - From: Fred Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Low-cost CLEC market entry approach for unsubsidized competitor At 2/16/2012 07:01 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: I don't know enough about the CLEC stuff to say for sure, but that sounds interesting. Would that let you get local DID's for VoIP? Yes. Numbers are given to CLECs, so you'd create a CLEC or team up with an existing CLEC that doesn't yet serve your area, and then could pull phone number blocks from NANPA. Kevin - Original Message - From: Fred R. Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Low-cost CLEC market entry approach for unsubsidized competitor The current FCC rules per November's CAF order allow ILECs to be subsidized to provide broadband unless there is an unsubsidized competitor who provides both voice and data service. Jack Unger has written an excellent petition to the FCC to change that to allow it to be unsubsidized competition, wherein the data provider needn't be the voice provider. But there's no guarantee that the FCC (currently down to three seated Commissioners) will take such action. A WISP can provide the needed voice service via VoIP. It need not be a certificated CLEC. However, to get the VoIP service and local numbers, it still needs a CLEC with a connection to (at minimum) the tandem switch serving its area. In some rural areas, this might not be available. So the WISP might need to create a CLEC, or at least get one to serve its area. While the traditional approach to starting a CLEC requires a switch, that rather costly item, which a lot of ISPs don't want to have to manage, can be finessed by using a remote gateway. At least one CLEC I'm working with offers a remote rent a call agent service, where there Class 4/5 call agent, which is equipped with Signaling System 7 (a big expense), can serve gateways anywhere, passing signaling (H.248) across the Internet or, ideally, a VPN. So the rural CLEC just has a media gateway and SBC, and orders trunks into the local central office. The VoIP side of the gateway then feeds the subscribers. I'm trying to assess whether it's worth anyone's pursuing to set this up as an offering for WISPs. Does anyone see a market for this type of service? Would it help anyone meet the unsubsidized competitor requirement? Thanks... -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Low-cost CLEC market entry approach for unsubsidized competitor
I don't know enough about the CLEC stuff to say for sure, but that sounds interesting. Would that let you get local DID's for VoIP? Kevin - Original Message - From: Fred R. Goldstein fgoldst...@ionary.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 1:57 PM Subject: [WISPA] Low-cost CLEC market entry approach for unsubsidized competitor The current FCC rules per November's CAF order allow ILECs to be subsidized to provide broadband unless there is an unsubsidized competitor who provides both voice and data service. Jack Unger has written an excellent petition to the FCC to change that to allow it to be unsubsidized competition, wherein the data provider needn't be the voice provider. But there's no guarantee that the FCC (currently down to three seated Commissioners) will take such action. A WISP can provide the needed voice service via VoIP. It need not be a certificated CLEC. However, to get the VoIP service and local numbers, it still needs a CLEC with a connection to (at minimum) the tandem switch serving its area. In some rural areas, this might not be available. So the WISP might need to create a CLEC, or at least get one to serve its area. While the traditional approach to starting a CLEC requires a switch, that rather costly item, which a lot of ISPs don't want to have to manage, can be finessed by using a remote gateway. At least one CLEC I'm working with offers a remote rent a call agent service, where there Class 4/5 call agent, which is equipped with Signaling System 7 (a big expense), can serve gateways anywhere, passing signaling (H.248) across the Internet or, ideally, a VPN. So the rural CLEC just has a media gateway and SBC, and orders trunks into the local central office. The VoIP side of the gateway then feeds the subscribers. I'm trying to assess whether it's worth anyone's pursuing to set this up as an offering for WISPs. Does anyone see a market for this type of service? Would it help anyone meet the unsubsidized competitor requirement? Thanks... -- Fred Goldsteink1io fgoldstein at ionary.com ionary Consulting http://www.ionary.com/ +1 617 795 2701 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remore relay (or similar)
Add http://alyrica.net/net_hatchet - Original Message - From: Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remore relay (or similar) Don't now if it covers everything in your list, but some links to consider: http://www.digital-loggers.com/epcr3.html http://dataprobe.com/iboot-remote-reboot.php http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/ http://www.dinrelay.com/ On 01/08/2012 12:13 PM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Dear All I am looking for some device to remotely reboot some device. The requested features are: 1) din mountable 2) ethernet aware 3) inputs to measure AC and DC (so that you can know if power is there or not) 4) high temperature range (e.g. -10C, +50C) 5) ability to put some labels on the interface (so that you can put the label do not reset this or routerA etc on the web interface and you know what you are doing) 6) autoping 7) remotely reset via a mobile phone call (sim card) or text messages from a list of phone numbers (the list can be updated via web interface, or any available interface) Suggestions are welcome :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s?
60. I'd really, really like some 60's, and UBNT already has 90s. Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s? My answer is... 60 deg. Actually, if I had my way, I'd prefer under 45 deg. Without detailed specs for the antennas, to understand what the product would be adding, its hard to suggest the market for each. UBNT makes wonderful and affordable 90 and 120 deg antennas, and if someone wants 90 or 120, I dont see why anyone would buy anything different than the proven product already available. (unless KP's antennas add something).. What I can say is that there are not any 60 deg dual pol high quality sectors on the market today, and there is a need for such a product. Admittedly, I tend to use 90 degs now. But I'd use more 60 deg, if they were available, even if it meant not gaining 360 deg coverage. I believe a combination of 5.8 and 5.3/4 is needed in combination to gain 360 coverage. In Urban and heavilly saturated suburban environments 90-120 degree antennas are almost unusable, atleast not at high modulations. The secret to a successful WISP is getting the highest modulations possible so they get the most capacity. And its better to have more capacity for limited coverage, than not enough capacity for full coverage, because with a more powerful offering, the take rate will be higher in the narrower coverage. It is true, that today, with UBNT only certified in 5.8 MIMO, 60 deg antennas would not likely safely enable full 360 degree coverage in most cases, prior to sync, and maybe not even then with noise floors. And as well, low density would warrant cost savings of fewer sectors. And obtaining 360deg is more important in low density areas. I'm sure this is why 120 and 90s are more attractive to rural WISPs. But the needs are much different for noisy Suburban/Urban. 120-90 deg antennas are to risky to use in urban cases. It should also be noted that spectrum reuse is sometimes possible, in Urban areas, mounted on opposite sides of penthouses, even without syncing, and often 10Mhz channels can be used to gain the coverage. Urban will choose 10Mhz, if they have a low colo cost, and can prove that higher modulation is achievable with less noise as a result of narrower sectors. So the decission may come down to which market segment KP wants to target, rural versus urban. And if they want a unique product, or compete head to head with others that have equivellent products. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Shane MacDonald To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 10:58 AM Subject: [WISPA] UBNT sectors 120s, 90s, or 60s? We are trying to decide which degree Ubiquiti sectors to release in December. Our production line can handle two of the three for a mid December release date and want your feedback. The 120 degree version is pretty much a lock but we want your opinion between the 90s or 60s so we release the sectors you require. Please reply to the list or send me an email directly as your response will weigh heavily on our decision. Thanks, Shane MacDonald KP Performance Antennas Sales Marketing Manager sh...@kpperformance.ca www.kpperformance.ca Direct line 780-702-9977 Fax 780-460-2786 KP Performance Antennas is a proud sponsor of the Wireless Internet Service Providers Association (WISPA) www.signup.wispa.org WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/KP logo-4.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Neighbor Sharing Internet
Tell them that: a) They are responsible for everything that goes out over that router, if anything illegal occurs, it's their problem b) It'll slow them down to have that second person on their service. And then offer to just downgrade their service level and give their neighbor an account of their own. If they don't want to, we won't stop them, but we also won't work on their service while the second person is connected, since that is an unsupported configuration. It's always gone away eventually for us. Kevin - Original Message - From: Matt lm7...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:56 AM Subject: [WISPA] Neighbor Sharing Internet What do you do when you find out that a customer is using a wireless router to share Internet with neighbor and splitting the bill? I am sure there are quite a few doing this but when they out right tell you about it when on a tech call is rare. It is against our TOS. What do others do? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms?
Can you share the nagios plugin for BGP session status? Kevin - Original Message - From: Patrick Shoemaker shoemak...@vectordatasystems.com To: paolo.difrance...@level7.it; WISPA GeneralList wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Nagios. For everything from BGP session status to shelter temperature. Very flexible and easy to make custom checks. Add a GSM modem to send SMS messages directly from the box. -- Patrick Shoemaker -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 10:46 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] What is everybody using for alarms? Hi all I am curious to know what kind of alarm system you have implemented to see when a link/router is no more reachable on the net. Nagios or similar? any hint would be appreciated :) thank you -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP
We've had trouble with Imagestream to Mikrotik OSPF. It seems to break itself every six months or so. Anyone else had to trouble with that? Kevin - Original Message - From: Joe Fiero To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP Imagestream has been very good to us as well. Every bit the Cisco experience, but at a fraction of the cost. Reliability has been excellent. They hum along year after year. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Justin Wilson Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP I have used Imagestream routers in what I would consider carrier situations. Have had Imagestreams in VRRP running multiple BGP full feeds and Gigs of traffic per second. Not saying it's a do all solution, but is a serious contender. Add on top the fact you don't need $1000's of dollars a year for smartnet I am happy. Not saying it's your solution, but definitely worth looking at. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Aol Yahoo IM: j2sw http://www.mtin.net/blog - xISP News http://www.twitter.com/j2sw - Follow me on Twitter Wisp Consulting - Tower Climbing - Network Support From: Bryan Fields br...@apacimports.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 15:05:10 -0400 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Roman consulttele...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Choosing core router for small - medium WISP On 7/6/2011 10:52, Roman wrote: I would like to ask for help of wireless community. We have to choose supplier of core router for our WISP projects. I know technical characteristics and price for core routers from Cisco - 7200 and 7600 series. Although these models have impressive possibilities, their price is very prohibitive for small/medium projects. Which models of core router do use in your projects? I would like to get your recommendations, its advantages and disadvantages. Would like to know some cheap and middle-price options. It comes down to the feature set you need and the performance required. Can you share your expected traffic numbers and what features you want to run? The cisco 7200 is a bit long in the tooth, the 7600 is the way to go forward. Each can be found on the secondary market for cheap. From a new device purchase decision, it's hard to beat the Juniper SRX series for smaller deployments. a $1500 router can handle 300 mbit/s of IP/mpls and firewall in hardware is hard to beat. The new MX series can handle 80gb/slot and its the next big competition to the 7600 from cisco. Junos is amazing to work with compared to IOS too. However if you do need multiple line rate 10gb/s interfaces, the ALU 7750/7710 should be considered too. I'd not consider the Imagestream product as it's not a serious carrier contender. As of two years back they just did not have a product, and bowed out of an RFP I was forced into running. It's a neat small office router, but that's all. Again this is all my opinion :) -- Bryan Fields APAC Imports LLC Phone: 800-721-6502 Fax: 727-493-1511 http://apacimports.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remote generator monitoring?
Or use a net hatchet to monitor the dry contacts: http://alyrica.net/net_hatchet Kevin - Original Message - From: Troy Settle To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 9:30 AM Subject: [WISPA] Remote generator monitoring? How does one typically monitor remote locations to know when/if they're running on generator? I'd like to know when a generator exorcises and when it's running due to a power outage. The easiest solution I can think of, is to stick an old routerboard at the site to run from the generator only, then monitor it to know when we're on genny power. This seems a little klunky though. Thanks, -- Troy Settle, Network Administrator The Wired Road Authority 1117 E. Stuart Dr. Galax, VA 24333 (276) 238-0049 (office) (276) 237-3890 (cell) tset...@thewiredroad.net -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New self-supporting tower
Hello, We're looking for a 150' free standing tower. Who do you guys go to for those? We've only really used Rohn in the past, and they don't really seem to have those. Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
I guess the biggest question in my mind is whether most WISPs would need a non-standard 24v or 48v out. At the last Ubiquiti conference they mentioned that their newest line of AirBeam APs will be running 48v. Obviously their current line is 24v, as is Trango and Tranzeo. Moto needs the GPS sync signal, so this wouldn't work for that. Also, would most people use DC or A/C to power the device? If DC, 24 or 48v? I talked it over with our electrical engineer, and he says the $450 number is what it would cost in the three-four quantity we had been discussing. In a batch of 100, the price would be closer to $250. Is that more appealing? Thanks! Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Hello Kevin, I'd be interested depending on how many ports you think this device would have. It seems 12 ports would be a good compromise. If a HUB site requires more than 12 ports then that site should easily justify another $450 in equipment, IMO. Would surge suppression be included similar to whatever basic surge suppression is found in today's PoE's? 24VDC output would probably be our preference too. Are you saying the DC input would be adjustable or are you looking for a consensus? 1U shallow depth rack mount is pretty much a requirement for us. Keep us posted. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch So... we're most of the way through a mid-span design similar to what people are outlining here. Right now it's only non-standard POE, though. No 802.3. Again, we were only going to build three, for our own use. If we sold something that was: Remote on/off per port Auto-ping reboot per port Dual-power supply, with notification on fail DC powered, either 12, 24, or 48v The one we are working on is 24v output only 1u rackmount or small form factor wall mountable SNMP for reboot, voltage monitoring, input monitoring We figured if it's a DC device, we can plug it into 110v easily with a transformer. If it was $450, would anyone buy them? Actually, what I really need to know is, would we be able to get rid of 90 of them? We'd have to make a batch of 100, and we could use 10. We'd get them back from the PCB manufacturer mid-May. Kevin - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch. I want to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports. I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per port with autoping and redundant power supplies. Is that so much to ask for??? ;) On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked flawlessly. Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;) Thanks! Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3468 - Release Date: 02/25/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
It'd have a web interface with SNMP support. Yeah, 12 port. Kevin - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 11:33 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Yes, better. At this time, we only use AC to power devices. Also I didn't see a web interface or cli on your list of features... Also also, number of ports should = 12 At $250, depending on features when it actually hit the street, we would take about 20. On 3/4/2011 10:56 AM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: I guess the biggest question in my mind is whether most WISPs would need a non-standard 24v or 48v out. At the last Ubiquiti conference they mentioned that their newest line of AirBeam APs will be running 48v. Obviously their current line is 24v, as is Trango and Tranzeo. Moto needs the GPS sync signal, so this wouldn't work for that. Also, would most people use DC or A/C to power the device? If DC, 24 or 48v? I talked it over with our electrical engineer, and he says the $450 number is what it would cost in the three-four quantity we had been discussing. In a batch of 100, the price would be closer to $250. Is that more appealing? Thanks! Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton To: 'WISPA General List' Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Hello Kevin, I'd be interested depending on how many ports you think this device would have. It seems 12 ports would be a good compromise. If a HUB site requires more than 12 ports then that site should easily justify another $450 in equipment, IMO. Would surge suppression be included similar to whatever basic surge suppression is found in today's PoE's? 24VDC output would probably be our preference too. Are you saying the DC input would be adjustable or are you looking for a consensus? 1U shallow depth rack mount is pretty much a requirement for us. Keep us posted. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 5:24 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch So... we're most of the way through a mid-span design similar to what people are outlining here. Right now it's only non-standard POE, though. No 802.3. Again, we were only going to build three, for our own use. If we sold something that was: Remote on/off per port Auto-ping reboot per port Dual-power supply, with notification on fail DC powered, either 12, 24, or 48v The one we are working on is 24v output only 1u rackmount or small form factor wall mountable SNMP for reboot, voltage monitoring, input monitoring We figured if it's a DC device, we can plug it into 110v easily with a transformer. If it was $450, would anyone buy them? Actually, what I really need to know is, would we be able to get rid of 90 of them? We'd have to make a batch of 100, and we could use 10. We'd get them back from the PCB manufacturer mid-May. Kevin - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch. I want to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports. I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per port with autoping and redundant power supplies. Is that so much to ask for??? ;) On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked flawlessly. Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;) Thanks! Jason
[WISPA] Used Trango gear
We've got eighteen Trango 900 SU's, and two Trango 915. All working pulls. Anyone interested? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch
So... we're most of the way through a mid-span design similar to what people are outlining here. Right now it's only non-standard POE, though. No 802.3. Again, we were only going to build three, for our own use. If we sold something that was: Remote on/off per port Auto-ping reboot per port Dual-power supply, with notification on fail DC powered, either 12, 24, or 48v The one we are working on is 24v output only 1u rackmount or small form factor wall mountable SNMP for reboot, voltage monitoring, input monitoring We figured if it's a DC device, we can plug it into 110v easily with a transformer. If it was $450, would anyone buy them? Actually, what I really need to know is, would we be able to get rid of 90 of them? We'd have to make a batch of 100, and we could use 10. We'd get them back from the PCB manufacturer mid-May. Kevin - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch I may be off here from the majority, but I don't want a switch. I want to be able to put these onto router ports as well as switch ports. I just want a rackmount multiport passive PoE controller, manageable per port with autoping and redundant power supplies. Is that so much to ask for??? ;) On 2/25/2011 9:42 PM, Brad Belton wrote: Once they add remote management, redundant power supplies and a Auto-Ping feature they'll have a winner. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:29 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch Just put in a 12 port 24V version of this for a UniFi WLAN. Worked flawlessly. Powered the UBNT PB5 on one of the ports too. - Jerry From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 8:45 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] non-802.3 rackmount poe switch http://www.streakwave.com/Itemdesc.asp?ic=TP-NCMS312-18eq=Tp= On 2/25/2011 5:52 PM, Jason Bailey wrote: Anyone have a good vendor for a rackmount poe switch for ubnt gear?Getting kinda messy with all the zip-ties and double-sided tape ;) Thanks! Jason WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3468 - Release Date: 02/25/11 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot
Hello, We've had quite a few people who may be interested, so we figured we'd bite the bullet and order 100. Hopefully some of you all will want to take them off of our hands. :) Here's the link to order them: http://www.alyrica.net/net_hatchet We're going to, (hopefully), be able to send them out by March 15th. Of course, if someone wants to help us all out and order 1000, we could get that price down a little more... :) Cheers! Kevin - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan To: WISPA General List Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: [WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot Hello, We've been working on building a remote monitoring/remote reboot board for awhile now, mostly for internal use. It runs on 9.5-55v, so we are going to be using it at some of our solar sites to monitor battery voltage and send alerts if they aren't charging, as well as the capability to remotely reboot radios. Oh, and it keeps track of temperature and turns a fan on if it gets too warm/ sends alerts at high enough temps. Anyway, we've got a couple out there, and we want to make another fifteen. However, it looks like it'll be WAY cheaper if we order 100... so we were wondering if anyone else would be interested in buying some. I think it'll be around $100 in quantity. If anyone is interested, I can send the data sheet and screencaps of the web interface. Thanks! Kevin -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Remote monitoring/ remote reboot
Hello, We've been working on building a remote monitoring/remote reboot board for awhile now, mostly for internal use. It runs on 9.5-55v, so we are going to be using it at some of our solar sites to monitor battery voltage and send alerts if they aren't charging, as well as the capability to remotely reboot radios. Oh, and it keeps track of temperature and turns a fan on if it gets too warm/ sends alerts at high enough temps. Anyway, we've got a couple out there, and we want to make another fifteen. However, it looks like it'll be WAY cheaper if we order 100... so we were wondering if anyone else would be interested in buying some. I think it'll be around $100 in quantity. If anyone is interested, I can send the data sheet and screencaps of the web interface. Thanks! Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Broken Dragonwave
We have the AirPair 200 split system. Currently both the radio and modem are outdoor mountable, but we'd be fine with moving the modem indoors if needed. Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Broken Dragonwave Yes, there are more cost effective alternatives to repair, if you have time. First, there is a third party company that will repair your modems or sell you refurbished modems for your IDUs. I ran into one not to long ago, unfortuantely I forget who it was off the top of my head. (But I'll try to find out) I'm assuming you have the Split archetecture models. What model do you have? I might have a resource for you. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:43 PM Subject: [WISPA] Broken Dragonwave We bought a used Dragonwave link, and it appears that both ends have broken radio modems. Dragonwave wants $2,000 to replace each modem card assembly, for a total of $4k. Does anyone know what that is, and if it is possible to repair without paying Dragonwave unholy amounts of cash? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Broken Dragonwave
We bought a used Dragonwave link, and it appears that both ends have broken radio modems. Dragonwave wants $2,000 to replace each modem card assembly, for a total of $4k. Does anyone know what that is, and if it is possible to repair without paying Dragonwave unholy amounts of cash? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment
Or SICE AirGhz. It's a free iPhone app that uses the internal compass to point you at the site, which you can add with lat/long. It also has the uptilt measurement built in, so you can hold the phone up against the back of the antenna, and it'll help you get the correct tilt. Pretty cool, but really only works on the iPhone 4 -- the predecessor's compass wasn't accurate enough. Kevin - Original Message - From: Chuck Hogg To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment The iphone has an app called wifi align, and we have been using it with pretty good results...can overlay your tower location via GPS onto your camera view. Regards, Chuck On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Yah…thought I was gonna see this a few days ago…grin Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment Mike, replying offlist... On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Where is this app? :-p -Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com On 10/19/2010 11:20 AM, Cameron Crum wrote: WispMon Pro has a phone app that will tell you distance and bearing to any of the towers in your database from your current location and plot it for you on a map. We are toying with making the app available for a small price to the general public, but it will need some mods so you can enter your tower locations manually and store them in a local file/db on the phone. Hit me offlist if you are interested and we'll try to get it out quicker if there is a big show of hands. Regards, Cameron On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I've never put a dish up half together. I've always seen it done putting everything together then hoisting it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: Actually not true in many cases. If the distance is really long beyond site, such as 20-30miles, I'd agree. But if say LOS within 10 miles or so on a clear day, its pretty easy. After our tech eye balls the alignment, I'll usually have the tech do a fine align just in case we can improve it. BUt 9 out of 10 times, it was not necessary and maybe we'll gain a half DB. The secret to aligning dishes is to look through the feed hole before the feed is screwed in. (for example PAC wireless parabolic dish). You then home in on the far side area aiming for, positionioned in cetner of hole, and make sure the Ring around the hole appears equal size all around to verify it is aligned. Because the hole has metal around it that has DEPTH, maybe 1/4-1/2 inch, you can see the depth of this inside surface all around the hole. As matter of fact, if we dont get our link budget acheieve and we need to trouble shoot why, we check cables first, because the odds of having a bad cable is higher than the tech getting the first alignment attempt wrong. Panels are harder to align, because looking from the side. Sure it can be harder to align a big dish with radome that does not have a removable feed. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment That's not realistically possible. You would have to be extraordinarily lucky to align that first dish without having any measurements. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net wrote: (sent a message a few minutes ago but through strange indicators I think it may not have sent out...sorry if it's a double-post) I'm trying to have 1 crew and not do the 2nd trip to the first tower. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP Dish Alignment You would need more people then. You can't align the dish without both radios being powered. You could do two 3 man crews, one at each site. Both install at the same time and they should finish around the same time frame. Align before coming down at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne
Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?
I think that's a great idea. I'd love for it to be more of a marketing tool! Kevin - Original Message - From: Brian Webster To: motor...@afmug.com ; 'WISPA General List' ; memb...@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map? And I wonder what everyone would think about the idea of identifying which WISP is serving the area this time? With all the requests Matt Larson sends out from the WISP Directory, they come directly from the national map. We don't identify who serves the area currently and thus the consumer questions who they should contact. Again, thoughts and ideas or complaints? The last version I ran the WISP's were promised anonymity. This would be a big change and I don't want to violate any trust I had with those who provided information in the past. Brian From: Charles N Wyble [mailto:char...@knownelement.com] Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:13 AM To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map? Brian, I think this is a wonderful idea. :) On 10/11/2010 07:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote: I have been thinking that I should do another update to the WISP National Map. I would really love to improve the quality of the coverage area this time. The thought is to have each WISP who participated in their respective state broadband mapping initiative request a copy of the shape file for their network. If everyone sent that information to me I could use that to create a better nationwide map. -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map?
Radiomobile can output a .kml file directly. That's what we sent to the Oregon broadband mapping program -- it opens directly in Google earth, and if we were to have a overview of total WISP coverage, a series of .kml files in Google Earth might not be a bad way to go. Kevin - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com ; WISPA General List Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Time to update the National WISP Map? Brian, Any tips on turning radiomobile coverage overlays into shape files? I've been playing with some open source tools and have made a little progress, but haven't had time to refine the technique yet. I think if ISPs could produce shape files more easily, the response would be much greater. For our state program (Utah), we gave them gps coords for each subscriber, which they used to extrapolate approximate area. I know they also accepted radiomobile graphic overlays and converted them for some ISP's. Of course they have millions of dollars to spend on such projects... I was disappointed with how few did submit this round. Randy On 10/11/2010 8:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote: I have been thinking that I should do another update to the WISP National Map. I would really love to improve the quality of the coverage area this time. The thought is to have each WISP who participated in their respective state broadband mapping initiative request a copy of the shape file for their network. If everyone sent that information to me I could use that to create a better nationwide map. Thoughts, ideas, complaints? For those who are not familiar with my previous work on this project you can visit these links: http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National-Coverage-Map-for-Fixed-Wireless-ISP%27s.php this page describes the project http://www.wirelessmapping.com/Google%20Maps3.htm this links to the live Google Map Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby| InfoWest, Inc | www.infowest.com Vice President | 435-674-0165 x 2010 | facebook.com/infowest -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FIPS 140-2
We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2
For some reason, they say they can't use 802.16 -- it has to be 802.11. Kevin - Original Message - From: Dave Rumore To: 'wireless@wispa.org' Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 2:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] FW: FIPS 140-2 The Redline AN-80i is FIPS 140-2 certified in both PtP and PtMP but they are 802.16 based not 802.11. They are also the most widely deployed COTS (commercial off the shelf) broadband radios in US DoD today. I hope this helps. redline® Communications David Rumore Territory Manager 120 Mystic Lane Jupiter, FL 33458 Phone: +1 561.741.0756 Fax: +1 561.741.1561 Mobile: 561.254.0758 e-mail: drum...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.com Advancing Broadband Wireless P Think green before printing this email From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:58 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 Possibly RedLine or Alvarion, but I think they are only AES256. BridgeWave PtP has been our radio of choice for FIPS 140-2 requirements. Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 3:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] FIPS 140-2 We have a customer that is part of the Federal government, and they are looking for a FIPS 140-2 certified 802.11-based PtMP outdoor solution. Anyone have any ideas? Kevin IMPORTANT NOTICE: This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain information that is privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify Redline immediately by email at postmas...@redlinecommunications.com. Thank you. -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Seeking 4.9Ghz Advice
Is that basically the same radio as the 54430? We're looking at doing a deployment with that radio, and we are looking for feedback Kevin - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seeking 4.9Ghz Advice We are in the process here to get a license for the local Sheriff Department for 4.9ghz, it is taking way longer than anticipated. The FCC is really slow. Equipment that we were going to deploy was Motorola PMP-49400. About $1,500 per radio with integrated antenna for 21Mbps aggregate on a 10mhz channel. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven McGehee Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 11:48 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Seeking 4.9Ghz Advice Thanks Ralph. Yeah not looking to pass commercial traffic on this, I just didn't know anything about 4.9 and wanted to get some feedback, etc., from people just like yourself. Thank you for your response, and the others, too. On 8/26/2010 22:35, Ralph wrote: So are you going to be doing some municipal video surveillance or something for the Fire or Police department? The 4.9 band is PUBLIC SAFETY only. I have deployed a lot of it in my area on surveillance projects for the PD and some at the University of Georgia (for their PD). It all has to be licensed and as was said by someone else before it CANNOT be used for regular ISP stuff. That said, I was not impressed with the performance. There seemed to be a lot of interference and I ended up only using 4 links and they were all about 2 blocks in length. There's not a lot of certified equipment out there (don't even THINK about Mikrotik) and what is there is expensive. My 2 cents worth from an actual user :-) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Steven McGehee Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Seeking 4.9Ghz Advice Hey guys, We may be getting into some 4.9Ghz deployments soon and I thought I would check with you guys to see what sort of tips and 'gotchas' you may know of if you currently are operating in 4.9. We are having a meeting soon with the local municipality to see how we can work together to get this potentially going for the benefit of everyone in the community. Please feel free to email me directly if you'd prefer with any advice or tips in working with the local government, what equipment you recommend, maybe legal advice, etc. I know that's vague, but I hope it's specific enough as well :) .. thanks. -Steven WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
What is everyone doing for VM storage? Kevin - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? Unfortunately, these servers are going to be geographically dispersed, and doing things that cannot really be virtualized. Three will be doing NAT/policy routing, three will be running our bandwidth tracking software, three will be terminating VOIP and one will be a network monitoring server running Nagios/Xymon/etc etc. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com On 8/24/2010 8:17 AM, Rick Harnish wrote: I agree. When I last looked, we were on our third chassis running VMWare. The space savings and lower utility bills are well worth it. Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:42 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? Agreed. We've run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything. We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with. Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability, power savings and features. A server to us now amounts to just a file within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a simple cut paste. If VMware sees a server go down or a host within your cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a different host. Really cool stuff. The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they replaced! Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are preferred. Does anyone one the list have recommendations? Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers?
Any idea what that cost? We're looking at ~2TB of data currently, and we'd like some room to grow... Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:10 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? We kept everything Dell, so we're using the Dell MD3000i with about 7TB of storage. The benefits of keeping everything Dell or HP etc outweighed the cost savings in our situation. Dell has always taken real good care of us. I've called Dell at 4pm with an issue and they had a replacement part in my hands by 8am the next morning...no charge. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? That's pretty cool. What are you using for shared storage? On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: Agreed. We’ve run HP and Dell servers for years and have been happy, but we had no idea what we were missing once we virtualized everything. We purchased a Dell blade chassis and three blade servers to start with. Loaded VMware and have been blown away with the performance, availability, power savings and features. A “server” to us now amounts to just a file within VMware that we can copy, backup or move wherever we please with a simple cut paste. If VMware “sees” a server go down or a host within your cluster fail it will automatically fire up the affected servers on a different host. Really cool stuff… The chassis will hold 16 blades, but just the three blades we have now are probably 100x the power of the two 42U cabinets stuffed with servers they replaced! Best, Brad From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Good Source for Rackmount Servers? On 24 August 2010 02:15, Matt Larsen - Lists li...@manageisp.com wrote: I have a need for about ten 2U/4U rackmount servers.All will be running Linux, so 4gig RAM, 2ghz or better CPU and ATA drives are preferred. Does anyone one the list have recommendations? Buy a new Dell (or factory refurb) and virtualize everything. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Service in Belfair, WA?
Anyone cover that town? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2' Dragonwave Airpair dish?
Hello, I'm looking for a 2' dish for a Airpair 200 link. It's the 23 GHz model. All I've got is the 4', and American Tower won't let me mount them. :( Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernetwhen forced to 100Mbps full duplex
Yeah, in all of the configs they were the same on both interfaces, (both set to 100full, both set to 10full, etc). Kevin - Original Message - From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernetwhen forced to 100Mbps full duplex Cisco's are finiky Keep in mind that if you are going to force the Ubnt Radio to 100Full.. then you should be doing the same to the Cisco as well. Having said that, I will share a recent experience.. We have qty 3 runs of outdoor shielded cable run done within flexible conduit, inside a building between it's North Telco Room and the South Telco Room about a 100 ft length. On one of the cables going to a Linksys/Cisco POE Switch... and a NBM5... were getting CRC errors on any combination of duplex setting except when running 10meg full duplex. Redid the cable connectors a couple of times still no change... Replaced the cable with the spare run (1 of 3) cables... No More CRC Errors. Go Figure Moral of the story Strange things happen... rare but they do happen... Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 6/5/2010 9:49 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: Actually, I've been running into a very similar issue. We have a customer who has a Nanobridge M5 plugged into a Cisco router. It mostly doesn't work with auto negotiation, (90+% packet loss), and it doesn't work at all on 100mbps full forced. It workes great at 10full forced on both ends, but obviously at lower speeds. We just hooked up a temp customer who also had a Cisco router, and had exactly the same deal, except they were into a Rocket M5. We wound up putting a switch between the Cisco and the Rocket to be able to talk at 100mbps. I'm starting to wonder if the forced 100full setting is broken. Kevin - Original Message - From: Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernetwhen forced to 100Mbps full duplex If need be, since you have low supply of connectors, if you have any bad patch cables, cut, cross the tx/rx and splice it just to test. Any true wire geek never throws bad patch away. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernet when forced to 100Mbps full duplex I'm going to try that when I find one. I have one here somewhere but haven't found it yet. I could make one but I don't have many RJ45s and since I'm in the jungle I don't want to blow them on something that's not a necessity. I do believe if I had the cross over cable then I could force the speed and duplex if I wanted to. I was doing it more as a diagnostic tool (I don't have a cable tester). But it does seem like the problem I was having was just a loose connection as having reseated them seems to have fixed the problem. I've been running an extended ping session from one end of the network to the other (I'm up to over 2300 packets) and still not one lost. Greg On Jun 5, 2010, at 6:44 PM, RickG wrote: Did a crossover cable fix it? http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18882 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Greg Ihnenos10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Actually no. Turns out that's the port that has nothing else but the POE injector connected. The search goes on. Greg On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Sounds like you found the issue. Regards Michael Baird I started using ethtool and backing up through the chain of gear back to the router. At one box I'm getting this. Instead of a speed it's saying Unknown!(0). and it's only negotiated half duplex. XM.v5.2# ethtool eth0_real Settings for eth0_real: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: Unknown! (0) Duplex: Half Port: MII PHYAD: 4 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Current message level: 0x (0) Link detected: no On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Try ifconfig first, Ubiquiti doesn't call their interfaces eth0 and eth1, they call them eth0_real and eth1_real. Regards Michael Baird I read a bit about ethtool
Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernetwhen forced to 100Mbps full duplex
Actually, I've been running into a very similar issue. We have a customer who has a Nanobridge M5 plugged into a Cisco router. It mostly doesn't work with auto negotiation, (90+% packet loss), and it doesn't work at all on 100mbps full forced. It workes great at 10full forced on both ends, but obviously at lower speeds. We just hooked up a temp customer who also had a Cisco router, and had exactly the same deal, except they were into a Rocket M5. We wound up putting a switch between the Cisco and the Rocket to be able to talk at 100mbps. I'm starting to wonder if the forced 100full setting is broken. Kevin - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernetwhen forced to 100Mbps full duplex If need be, since you have low supply of connectors, if you have any bad patch cables, cut, cross the tx/rx and splice it just to test. Any true wire geek never throws bad patch away. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Greg Ihnen Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 7:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BulletM2 and NanostationM5 won't talk on ethernet when forced to 100Mbps full duplex I'm going to try that when I find one. I have one here somewhere but haven't found it yet. I could make one but I don't have many RJ45s and since I'm in the jungle I don't want to blow them on something that's not a necessity. I do believe if I had the cross over cable then I could force the speed and duplex if I wanted to. I was doing it more as a diagnostic tool (I don't have a cable tester). But it does seem like the problem I was having was just a loose connection as having reseated them seems to have fixed the problem. I've been running an extended ping session from one end of the network to the other (I'm up to over 2300 packets) and still not one lost. Greg On Jun 5, 2010, at 6:44 PM, RickG wrote: Did a crossover cable fix it? http://ubnt.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18882 On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Actually no. Turns out that's the port that has nothing else but the POE injector connected. The search goes on. Greg On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:27 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Sounds like you found the issue. Regards Michael Baird I started using ethtool and backing up through the chain of gear back to the router. At one box I'm getting this. Instead of a speed it's saying Unknown!(0). and it's only negotiated half duplex. XM.v5.2# ethtool eth0_real Settings for eth0_real: Supported ports: [ TP MII ] Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Supports auto-negotiation: Yes Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes Speed: Unknown! (0) Duplex: Half Port: MII PHYAD: 4 Transceiver: internal Auto-negotiation: on Current message level: 0x (0) Link detected: no On Jun 5, 2010, at 4:00 PM, Michael Baird wrote: Try ifconfig first, Ubiquiti doesn't call their interfaces eth0 and eth1, they call them eth0_real and eth1_real. Regards Michael Baird I read a bit about ethtool and then gave it a shot but this was all I got. I iterated through eth0 through eth12 and got nothing. XM.v5.2# ethtool eth0 Settings for eth0: Cannot get device settings: No such device Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: No such device Cannot get message level: No such device Cannot get link status: No such device No data available XM.v5.2# ethtool eth1 Settings for eth1: Cannot get device settings: No such device Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: No such device Cannot get message level: No such device Cannot get link status: No such device No data available XM.v5.2# ethtool eth2 Settings for eth2: Cannot get device settings: No such device Cannot get wake-on-lan settings: No such device Cannot get message level: No such device Cannot get link status: No such device No data available On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Michael Baird wrote: They are linux based. Use ethtoolinterface Regards Michael Baird I have a BulletM2 and a NanostationM5 back to back (the bullet's ethernet port is connected to the NanostationM5's secondary port. The NanostationM5 is doing POE pass through and powering the BulletM2. The NanostationM5 the BulletM2 is connected to is the far end of a pair of NanostationM5's acting as a backhaul. I've had some intermittent problems on the network and I wanted to rule out a flaky ethernet cable or connection so I decided to disable auto negotiate on the ethernet port and to force 100Mbps full duplex to see if
Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies
I've applied to several leasing companies, mostly for licensed links. All of them gave me an appox. rate for a five year term of under 10% per year. Then, after they ran credit, they came back with a monthly payment but wouldn't tell me the rate. I calculated it to be over 25% annually in all of the cases. When I talked to them about it, they all said that they don't actually do rates, they just give a monthly amount, since that's easier for people to understand. In all of the cases, if we had signed up, we would have paid more than three times what the equipment cost by the time the lease was done. One of them even tried that old Rule of 78 method for calulating interest. I didn't even think that was still legal in the US! Two of them verbally told us the lease was for a $1 buyout, but then in the fine print it said we would have to pay, fair market value, whatever that means. If I ever find a honest leasing company, it'll make my business easier and more profitable. Until then, we'll continue to grow slowly. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies I would recommend Peer to Peer lending options. (Google peer to peer lending). They will end up being personal loans, and likely lower credit lines, but there is a much higher chance of walking away with a loan, at a reasonable rate. If you meet the financial profile for leasing, Lease Corp of America has some of the lowest rates. They do a lot of the Moto 1yr type leases. With LCA it wont be an issue that you are leasing wireless gear, because they do that all the time. A couple tips on leasing If you do less than 5 mil a year in revenue, or have less than 10 employee, chances are your lease will be qualified by personal credit rating. Most Leasing companies are clueless, and are incapable of making an intelligent judgement on their own, and instead rely heavilly on standard Credit Reports. If your personal Credit Score is less than 700, or personal revolving credit lines over 50% utilized, dont bother applying for a lease, you'll probably get denied.. Work to improve credit score first. The price quote you get for equipment (for example whether 30% below or above market rate, whether a good or bad deal) will likely have very little to do with your approval. Approval is more about documentation. On paper, whether you look like a low credit risk or not, using default common methods of valuing, without an expanation needed. My personal opinion is WISPs are likely better off working with a local banks or private lenders, where they can meet underwriting decission makers in person. WISPs appear like far less of a risk, when their business is explained to the lender. That message will rarely get conveyed adequately to behind the scene decission makers in traditional large leasing companies. Avoid applying for a lease, unless you are confident that you will get accepted, because everytime an inquirey is made on your credit report by a lender, future lenders will question why you might have been turned down by them, which brings up concern, and that inquirey will be on your record for 2 years, and nothing you can do about it. Even if you decided to turn down the loan because you were offered loan shark rates. Leasers know who they loansharks are, and if they made an inquirey, but you dont have a loan from them, they now dont know whether you turned them down or they turned you down. IF a loan shark wont lend to you, why should they? I've found applying for leases to be a very delicate and unforgiving process. No one has to convince me on value of leasing, I get it. Obviously, there are numerous WISP Members that are successful at obtaining Leases. But what I'm learning is that they are all more or less exactly the same, in regards to methods they use to qualify/approve applicants. Although they may vary drastically on how well they manage the loan/client experience or ethically handle the application process, or what lease terms they'll extend. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Leasing Companies Any other suggestions? mc On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:28 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Travis, I surprised you didnt mention: Taycor Financial -An Inc 500 Company- 6100 Center Drive, Suite 710 Los Angeles, CA 90045 Direct: (310) 895-7717, Fax: (310) 568-9922 dolyn...@taycor.com, www.taycor.com On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Be prepared to sign over your company to them if you use them for anything. :( Travis Layne Sisk wrote: Here is
Re: [WISPA] HotSpots
What is everybody using for the billing/provisioning on the hotspot stuff? Kevin - Original Message - From: Jeff Ehman jeh...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] HotSpots +1. A lot more about the specific project is needed to give a reasonable recommendation. -Jeff Convergence Technologies There is a difference -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] HotSpots What kind of venue is this? I have free hotels and higher class services for event. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Looking at adding some more pay as you go hotspots and wanted to know: What is other most subscribed to offering on a hotspot? Per hour, per day, per week, per month? What limits do you set on speed? What limits do you set on MB/GB /subscription? What do you charge? (hour, day, week, month) Do you let it be used at other hotspots you have in other areas. Steve Barnes RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Chuck Profito Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 12:35 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] You knew it was coming... ATT will be redoing the pricing plans for I Phone and I Pad charging a fee plus overages. There's good news for existing iPad and iPhone users who feel that the new plans will cost them more: ATT said existing ATT customers -- including the 50 million iPhone and iPad users in the United States -- have the option of sticking with their old $30 unlimited plan. The Full story: http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/02/technology/att_iphone_ipad WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem
Can you lock down gig? Most of the time I've tried to do that it seemed problematic. Kevin - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@arrl.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem On 5/27/2010 10:04 AM, RickG wrote: Auto neg can cause problems. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: No, it's a gig link, set to auto neg. snip auto-neg definitely the problem especially if non gig on other side. Lock both sides down Leon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2897 - Release Date: 05/26/10 02:25:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem
Broadcom, not sure which. I'll check. Kevin - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem What NICs are your Linux routers? On 5/27/10, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: Can you lock down gig? Most of the time I've tried to do that it seemed problematic. Kevin - Original Message - From: Leon D. Zetekoff wa4...@arrl.net To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem On 5/27/2010 10:04 AM, RickG wrote: Auto neg can cause problems. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: No, it's a gig link, set to auto neg. snip auto-neg definitely the problem especially if non gig on other side. Lock both sides down Leon No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2897 - Release Date: 05/26/10 02:25:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem
I think I have found a legitimate bug. I'm running an RB1000 that we put in service about 2 weeks ago (it replaced another RB1000 that was having similar problems). Here is what is going on: Linux router A - [ether1] RB1000 [ether3] --- Linux router B The RB1000 above is connected to the two hosts shown. Each link A RB1000 B has latency ~1ms. We are not using any Mikrotik wireless. A and B both know that they can reach each other through the RB1000 (thanks to OSPF). A and B are Linux routers. When I ping B from A (traffic going through the RB1000), I get no response. When I log into B and tcpdump traffic, I can see icmp echo request packets coming in from A, and echo reply packets going out to A. Fine. I then log into the RB1000 and packet sniff ether1 and ether3. ether1 packet sniff shows icmp request packets coming in. ether3 shows icmp request packets going out, and icmp reply packets coming in. However, the replies are not going out ether1. BUT after several minutes, A starts seeing replies. 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1049 ttl=63 time=671216 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1095 ttl=63 time=628217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1142 ttl=63 time=584217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1188 ttl=63 time=541218 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1235 ttl=63 time=497234 ms the RB1000 has been queuing my ICMP packets for ~500 seconds!! I STOP pinging from A and packet sniff ether1 on the RB1000 again. It is STILL sending out queued ICMP replies from A, even though I am not sending requests anymore. Several minutes after I stop pinging from A, the RB1000 stops sending replies on ether1. Clients have been complaining for months about slow speeds passing traffic through this router. I've also noticed high CPU utilization, even when normal CPU hungry tasks were turned off (one mangle rule, no queues, no proxy, no DNS, etc). During the day, we see 70-80% CPU utilization. The previous router (same config) went to 100% utilization, which is why we replaced it. Regards, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem
4.9 - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem Also what firmware (sys routerboar pr)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: What version of RouterOS are you running? Greg On May 26, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Kevin Sullivan wrote: I think I have found a legitimate bug. I'm running an RB1000 that we put in service about 2 weeks ago (it replaced another RB1000 that was having similar problems). Here is what is going on: Linux router A - [ether1] RB1000 [ether3] --- Linux router B The RB1000 above is connected to the two hosts shown. Each link A RB1000 B has latency ~1ms. We are not using any Mikrotik wireless. A and B both know that they can reach each other through the RB1000 (thanks to OSPF). A and B are Linux routers. When I ping B from A (traffic going through the RB1000), I get no response. When I log into B and tcpdump traffic, I can see icmp echo request packets coming in from A, and echo reply packets going out to A. Fine. I then log into the RB1000 and packet sniff ether1 and ether3. ether1 packet sniff shows icmp request packets coming in. ether3 shows icmp request packets going out, and icmp reply packets coming in. However, the replies are not going out ether1. BUT after several minutes, A starts seeing replies. 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1049 ttl=63 time=671216 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1095 ttl=63 time=628217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1142 ttl=63 time=584217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1188 ttl=63 time=541218 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1235 ttl=63 time=497234 ms the RB1000 has been queuing my ICMP packets for ~500 seconds!! I STOP pinging from A and packet sniff ether1 on the RB1000 again. It is STILL sending out queued ICMP replies from A, even though I am not sending requests anymore. Several minutes after I stop pinging from A, the RB1000 stops sending replies on ether1. Clients have been complaining for months about slow speeds passing traffic through this router. I've also noticed high CPU utilization, even when normal CPU hungry tasks were turned off (one mangle rule, no queues, no proxy, no DNS, etc). During the day, we see 70-80% CPU utilization. The previous router (same config) went to 100% utilization, which is why we replaced it. Regards, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem
No, it's a gig link, set to auto neg. Kevin - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik routing/queing problem I havent seen that on my RB1000. Do you have the ports locked down to a set rate? On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net wrote: I think I have found a legitimate bug. I'm running an RB1000 that we put in service about 2 weeks ago (it replaced another RB1000 that was having similar problems). Here is what is going on: Linux router A - [ether1] RB1000 [ether3] --- Linux router B The RB1000 above is connected to the two hosts shown. Each link A RB1000 B has latency ~1ms. We are not using any Mikrotik wireless. A and B both know that they can reach each other through the RB1000 (thanks to OSPF). A and B are Linux routers. When I ping B from A (traffic going through the RB1000), I get no response. When I log into B and tcpdump traffic, I can see icmp echo request packets coming in from A, and echo reply packets going out to A. Fine. I then log into the RB1000 and packet sniff ether1 and ether3. ether1 packet sniff shows icmp request packets coming in. ether3 shows icmp request packets going out, and icmp reply packets coming in. However, the replies are not going out ether1. BUT after several minutes, A starts seeing replies. 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1049 ttl=63 time=671216 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1095 ttl=63 time=628217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1142 ttl=63 time=584217 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1188 ttl=63 time=541218 ms 64 bytes from x.x.x.x: icmp_seq=1235 ttl=63 time=497234 ms the RB1000 has been queuing my ICMP packets for ~500 seconds!! I STOP pinging from A and packet sniff ether1 on the RB1000 again. It is STILL sending out queued ICMP replies from A, even though I am not sending requests anymore. Several minutes after I stop pinging from A, the RB1000 stops sending replies on ether1. Clients have been complaining for months about slow speeds passing traffic through this router. I've also noticed high CPU utilization, even when normal CPU hungry tasks were turned off (one mangle rule, no queues, no proxy, no DNS, etc). During the day, we see 70-80% CPU utilization. The previous router (same config) went to 100% utilization, which is why we replaced it. Regards, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Ok, I think we finally fixed it. It was only happening when it was hot becauseof a loose wire. The PS that came from Trango already had the power connector on it, so we didn't check the set screws that hold the wires into the connector. While I was troubleshooting today, one of the wires fell out. Both set screws were so loose, I'm suprised they stayed in long enough for us to mount the equipment. I tightened them down, and the problem seems to be solved. Cheers, Kevin - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Sure its possible to have a radio that is failing. All I can say isthe easiest and quickest thing to do is to 100% rule out everything else. I have to admit, I jumped to think I had a bad radio twice, even go the replacements shipped, and both times it ended up being cabling after all. The Apexes are pretty solid. There are so many possible ways CAT5 can go bad. And I know, the odds of two cables going bad, (the management and Data) doesn't sound likey, but its possible. the APEX can be powered up by ether management or data cable. You might want to try powering from the other one. For cable damage, the big things are corrosion on the pins, or a bad crimp to one of the pins. Those things are hard to spot, and dont always surface for 6 months or so.. Cable blows in the wind, link goes down, or overheats or shuts down because not getting enough current or to much while shorting out. Now when the APEXs first came out (like the first batch) there was a manufacturering flaw with a part that I think effected Ethernet life, but Trango proactively recalled them, like days after they shipped, and gave free repairs on it. (I was impressed, very responsibly done) But that was ages ago. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Kevin Sullivan kevin.sulli...@alyrica.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman
[WISPA] WISPA classifieds?
Hello, I've asked before, but I still haven't got an answer. Does WISPA have any online classifieds for used WISP equipment? I'm looking for a licensed link, and I have mountains of Trango 5800(-d), Trango 900, Tranzeo, and a few Trango ATLAS backhaul units I'd like liquidate. (I've also got a HUGE pile of Raylink, alvarion 900, and SmartBridges, but I'll probably have to just haul those to the dump). I'm thinking of throwing up a classifieds page for WISPs, but I really don't want to duplicate, if someone else already has one. Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble
It's been running six months without a dropped packet. Cable run is ~100 feet, maybe a little less. We were powering it over the data port, but we switched to the management port today. We checked the power output on the PS, and with the power supply plugged into the power injector, but the radio not actually working, we got -47.8v. That makes me think it is unlikely to be an actual power supply issue. I'm starting to wonder if it is heat related somehow. The problem started at around 10:00am today, and now that it's nearing six and cooling down, the link came back up and started working fine. I can't think what else it would be related to... maybe the power injector doesn't like it when it gets warm? I have a new power injector coming from Trango -- I'm thinking maybe the current power injector has a bad component that doesn't react well to heat. Kevin - Original Message - From: Brad Belton b...@belwave.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble How long have you had the link installed? How long is the Ethernet cable that you are running the PoE on? Are you powering the unit over the management port or the data port? We had trouble keeping an Apex unit powered up some time ago. It would run for 15min to an hour and then stop. Turned out even though the Ethernet cable was only 250-260' we determined we need to power the unit via a shorter cable run. Once we did that the problem hasn't arisen again since. The odd thing is we have several Apex radios running without trouble on cables even longer than the 250-260' cable this unit was running on. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Sullivan Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Trango APEX link trouble Hello, We have an 11ghz Trango APEX link up for one of our incoming lines, and it went down this morning. There is no link light on either the managment or traffic port on one end. We unplugged-and-replugged the power on it, and it came back up for fifteen to twenty minutes, then crashed again. I've been trying to get a hold of Trango tech support, but so far it's been several hours and I just keep getting voice mail. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Thanks, Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VoIP
We'd like to start offering VoIP to our wireless customers, and we've taken a look at a couple of packaged soultions like NetSapiens. What is everyone else using? We'd like to start at a lower $$ than the $17,000 that we've been hearing from the packaged deals. Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Canopy 3.65
Has anyone had a chance to test the new Canopy 3.65 PtMP gear? I'm mostly interested in cost/sub and max throughput/sub Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo WiMax for sale / Classifieds
We just listed a Tranzeo WiMax starter kit on ebay, here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=270549261069ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT and it got me thinking again about a wireless classified page. Does WISPA have one already? Kevin WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Advertising material
We're working on a new ad campign for the new locations that we can now hit that we couldn't before, thanks to several new tower sites. Does anyone have any good direct mail material? I hate the stuff we've been using, but I'm having trouble coming up with anything better. BTW -- has anyone tried local Dish Network advertising before? I have no idea if they would even have that local of a programming list, but it would be a good fit to advertise on... Kevin Sullivan Alyrica Networks, Inc. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/