Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

Did you see the graph?  Infection count is flat and recovery numbers have
almost caught up.

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 3:30 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Yup great site josh!  We are about 9 days behind Italy.
>
> The cases grow exponentially every day and what will happen is our
> hospitals have no surge capacity.  20% of the people who get it will need
> ICU level of care.  There isn’t capacity for that unless we flatten the
> curve.  The same number of people will probably get the virus, the
> difference will be that our health care system can handle the load if it is
> stretched over time.
>
> Social distancing is the only way to flatten the curve.
>
> Thanks for sharing!
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:09 PM Josh Luthman via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hvia4VtxJ1AjJZaTv40aive3k79kdTmOfjt_vGkGz7o4XuY4ZnRO02-Y#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
>>
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373?entry=gmail=g>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
>>>> safety of everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>>>>
>>>> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we
>>>> should all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We
>>>> need WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
>>>> financially.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>>>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0Hvia4VtxJ1AjJZaTv40aive3k79kdTmOfjt_vGkGz7o4XuY4ZnRO02-Y#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6


[image: image.png]

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> https://www.flattenthecurve.com/
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:58 AM Sean Heskett  wrote:
>
>> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
>> safety of everyone.
>>
>> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>>
>> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we should
>> all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We need
>> WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
>> financially.
>>
>>
>> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>>
>> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> -Sean
>>
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] COVID-19 and WISPAmerica

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

If you're concerned about getting sick, just don't go.

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:59 PM Sean Heskett  wrote:

> I’m sorry folks but this conference really should be canceled for the
> safety of everyone.
>
> Thank you to Sonar For their brave decision yesterday to pull out.
>
> I know this would be a hardship for WISPA’s finances so I think we should
> all pull together to make sure WISPA doesn’t suffer financially.  We need
> WISPA and our members to be healthy and strong both physically and
> financially.
>
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-11/coronavirus-advice-from-bioethicists-cancel-that-conference
>
> https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw
>
> Best regards,
>
> -Sean
>
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Re: [WISPA] SD Wan Solutions

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

email adm...@wispa.org

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 4:08 PM nick nestor via Wireless 
wrote:

> What the hell guys, I've unsubscribed from this list over a dozen times.
> GET ME OFF THIS LIST!!!
>
> On Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 2:54 PM Mike Francis via Wireless <
> wireless@wispa.org> wrote:
>
>> We have an in house solution we designed and have bene deploying for over
>> 2 years now. Have many clients and over 300 bank branches on it.
>>
>>
>>
>> John Michael Francis
>>
>> CEO & Entrepreneur
>>
>> JMF <https://jmfsolutions.net/> | Wavefly <https://wavefly.com/> | DLI
>> <https://distributedledgerinc.com/>
>>
>> INC 5000
>>
>> CRN Fast Growth
>>
>> 251-517-5069
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
>> Behalf Of *David Funderburk via Wireless
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:44 PM
>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] SD Wan Solutions
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone roll out a SD Wan solution, either hosted or 3rd party, that
>> you'd share you experience here?  We have a large customer asking us for a
>> solution. I've read quite a bit about it but not implemented anything yet.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Funderburk
>> GlobalVision
>> 864-569-0703
>>
>> For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] SD Wan Solutions

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

SOCS here in Ohio is rolling out SD wan.  Got a demo of it recently and it
looks really good.

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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 3:44 PM David Funderburk via Wireless <
wireless@wispa.org> wrote:

> Has anyone roll out a SD Wan solution, either hosted or 3rd party, that
> you'd share you experience here?  We have a large customer asking us for a
> solution. I've read quite a bit about it but not implemented anything yet.
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> David Funderburk
> GlobalVision
> 864-569-0703
>
> For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net.
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Re: [WISPA] Tech position open

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

You have heights for the guy doing VLANs and VOIP.  Maybe you want it on
the second job listing for the installer?

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On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 7:18 AM David Funderburk 
wrote:

> We've had people apply in the past who did not want to get on anything
> more than a step stool. It was a waste of my time. Are we the only ones
> that have had that issue? If an installer does not even want to get on a
> single story roof why are they even considering being an installer? I think
> they were just checking off boxes for unemployment.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Funderburk
> GlobalVision
> 864-569-0703
>
> For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net.
>
>
>
> On 2019/06/01 06:58, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> They installed all the servers at the top of the tower.
>
> Josh Luthman
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>
> On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 6:49 AM Jay Weekley via Wireless 
> wrote:
>
>> Just out of curiosity...what does "not afraid of heights" actually mean
>> for an applicant?  Tall ladders?  Towers? Bucket trucks?  All of the
>> above?
>>
>> David Funderburk via Wireless wrote:
>> >
>> > GlobalVision is hiring! If you or someone you know is interested
>> > please contact me off list.
>> >
>> > Position One - Candidate must have a working knowledge of Linux,
>> > VLANs,  VoIP, VMWare or equivalent, not be afraid of heights.  WISP
>> > experience preferred.
>> >
>> > If you have seen my other posts I apologize for the repeat however I
>> > wanted to be a little more specific that just "network admin".
>> >
>> > Position Two - Installer - Can use hand tools like drills, screw
>> > drivers, etc efficiently. Not afraid of heights, self-starter,
>> > trustworthy, can follow instructions. WISP experience a huge plus.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > David Funderburk
>> > GlobalVision
>> > 864-569-0703
>> >
>> > For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net
>> > <mailto:gv-supp...@globalvision.net>.
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Re: [WISPA] Tech position open

[Josh Luthman via Wireless]

They installed all the servers at the top of the tower.

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On Sat, Jun 1, 2019, 6:49 AM Jay Weekley via Wireless 
wrote:

> Just out of curiosity...what does "not afraid of heights" actually mean
> for an applicant?  Tall ladders?  Towers? Bucket trucks?  All of the above?
>
> David Funderburk via Wireless wrote:
> >
> > GlobalVision is hiring! If you or someone you know is interested
> > please contact me off list.
> >
> > Position One - Candidate must have a working knowledge of Linux,
> > VLANs,  VoIP, VMWare or equivalent, not be afraid of heights.  WISP
> > experience preferred.
> >
> > If you have seen my other posts I apologize for the repeat however I
> > wanted to be a little more specific that just "network admin".
> >
> > Position Two - Installer - Can use hand tools like drills, screw
> > drivers, etc efficiently. Not afraid of heights, self-starter,
> > trustworthy, can follow instructions. WISP experience a huge plus.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > David Funderburk
> > GlobalVision
> > 864-569-0703
> >
> > For Technical Support, please email gv-supp...@globalvision.net
> > <mailto:gv-supp...@globalvision.net>.
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] OFF LIST Predictive placement and heat mapping software OFF LIST

[Josh Luthman]

Gmail kinda has one

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On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 10:45 PM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Wish the recall message thing actually worked in situations like this….
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 10:31 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] OFF LIST Predictive placement and heat mapping
> software OFF LIST
>
>
>
> Whoops.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 10:30 PM Brian Webster 
> wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] OFF LIST Predictive placement and heat mapping software OFF LIST

[Josh Luthman]

Whoops.

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On Tue, Jul 31, 2018, 10:30 PM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Bryan,
>
> Since they get touchy if we self-promote our own solutions
> on the list I am sending this to you off list. Here is a blog I published
> two weeks ago talking about a solution I have developed that may addresses
> your question if you are looking for placement based on need. For other RF
> predictions there are a few solutions. 3D RF modeling cuts down your
> options, actual field survey data and post modeling can also be done in
> quite a few ways but Ekahu seems to have a popular solution for in building
> surveying and coverage mapping. Are you looking for indoor or outdoor
> solutions? Feel free to call and discuss in detail if you want.
>
>
>
>
> https://brianwebsterconsulting.wordpress.com/2018/07/12/where-will-the-5g-networks-be-built-carriers-are-not-the-only-ones-who-know/
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> 214 Eggleston Hill Rd.
>
> Cooperstown, NY 13326
>
> (607) 643-4055 Office
>
> (607) 435-3988 Mobile
>
> (208) 692-1898 Fax
> Skype: Radiowebst
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Bryan Brooks
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2018 3:29 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Predictive placement and heat mapping software
>
>
>
>
>
> What are folks using these days for predictive wifi heatmapping
> (preferably 3D) and post- install wifi heatmapping?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bryan
>
>
>
> Bryan Brooks
>
> Pavlov Media
>
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Re: [WISPA] Test

[Josh Luthman]

...em ot enif smeeS

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 5:25 PM  wrote:

> Darn! Its STILL transposing letters. Will someone please fix the server?
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org  *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:25 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Test
>
>
>
> tseT
>
> Josh Luthman
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> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 3:21 PM Blair Davis  wrote:
>
> Test
>
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Re: [WISPA] Test

[Josh Luthman]

tseT

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018, 3:21 PM Blair Davis  wrote:

> Test
>
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Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??

[Josh Luthman]

There being Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/butchevansconsulting


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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Trina Coffey  wrote:

> Ok
>
> Got a really quick response from Butch on FB.  He says that contacting him
> there or at but...@butchevans.com is best.
>
>
> Trina Coffey
> Vice President of Events & Operations
> WISPA
> 260-622-5775 Direct
> 866-317-2851 ext 102 (US Only)
> 530-227-6696 cell
> www.wispa.org
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> *From: *"tcoffey" 
> *To: *"wireless" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, July 17, 2018 10:05:15 AM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??
>
> Hello all
>
> I have sent Butch a PM and posted a message to him on FB to try to get a
> contact number for you all.  He is not on this list so will not see these
> messages.  I will let you know if I hear from him.
>
> Trina Coffey
> Vice President of Events & Operations
> WISPA
> 260-622-5775 Direct
> 866-317-2851 ext 102 (US Only)
> 530-227-6696 cell
> www.wispa.org
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> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *"wireless" 
> *Sent: *Monday, July 16, 2018 6:50:59 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??
>
> Butch Evans 
>
> he's been active on the animal farm list if you want to try over there
> a...@af.afmug.com
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Tony C. Loosle 
> wrote:
>
>> so the number I have in my phone and on he website do not work.  And
>> emails are unanswered.   Does anyone have any other contact for him?
>>
>> t
>>
>>
>> Tony C. Loosle wrote:
>> > I have been trying to contact Butch Evans for some mikrotik work.
>> >
>> >
>> > Does anyone know if he is still around?
>> >
>> > t
>> >
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Butch Evans ??

[Josh Luthman]

He's around... Hear from him all the time.

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On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 4:47 PM Tony C. Loosle  wrote:

> I have been trying to contact Butch Evans for some mikrotik work.
>
>
> Does anyone know if he is still around?
>
> t
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Re: [WISPA] 900MHz band

[Josh Luthman]

The issue, they claim, it's 10 MHz channels aren't allowed.  If it was FCC
certified, their claim is incorrect.

Their issue isn't interference from what I'm reading.

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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 4:55 PM Faisal Imtiaz 
wrote:

> >>> Isn't the device FCC certified?
>
> That is no a valid 'defense' when it comes to tracking down the source of
> interference.
> It is a position that helps in deflecting potential liability, which the
> 2nd phase of the 'let's find who is messing with the spectrum process' .
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> http://www.snappytelecom.net
>
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, June 21, 2018 3:59:25 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 900MHz band
>
> Isn't the device FCC certified?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>> We had an issue this week where we had a Power company have a 50K
>> licensed band at 901.152 Mhz for power meter reading.  We have still a few
>> older links that are 900MHz on Yagi’s to individuals in deep woods.  I had
>> to move channels all over the place as a 902-912MHz 10Mhz channel with UBNT
>> does not have edge filters that don’t pollute down to 901MHz.  So moving to
>> the middle of the band cleaned up the noise on their license.
>>
>>
>>
>> Now they are claiming that 10MHz channel width in the 900MHz ISM band is
>> Illegal.  That the channel width is to be no larger than 8MHz. I have read
>> all kinds of ISM docs from the FCC and I see no mention of max channel
>> widths.  They made mention of talking to the FCC if we didn’t fix the
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proof they are wrong any one?   This is a national company with a $10K 
>> Anritsu
>> analyzer they hired in to find the noise.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> Wireless Operations Manager
>>
>> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>>
>> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>>
>> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>>
>> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 900MHz band

[Josh Luthman]

Isn't the device FCC certified?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 3:57 PM, Steve Barnes  wrote:

> We had an issue this week where we had a Power company have a 50K licensed
> band at 901.152 Mhz for power meter reading.  We have still a few older
> links that are 900MHz on Yagi’s to individuals in deep woods.  I had to
> move channels all over the place as a 902-912MHz 10Mhz channel with UBNT
> does not have edge filters that don’t pollute down to 901MHz.  So moving to
> the middle of the band cleaned up the noise on their license.
>
>
>
> Now they are claiming that 10MHz channel width in the 900MHz ISM band is
> Illegal.  That the channel width is to be no larger than 8MHz. I have read
> all kinds of ISM docs from the FCC and I see no mention of max channel
> widths.  They made mention of talking to the FCC if we didn’t fix the
> issue.
>
>
>
> Proof they are wrong any one?   This is a national company with a $10K Anritsu
> analyzer they hired in to find the noise.
>
>
>
> *Steve Barnes*
>
> Wireless Operations Manager
>
> *New Lisbon Broadband*
>
> *NLBC.COM <http://NLBC.COM>*
>
> *PCSWIN.COM <http://PCSWIN.COM>*
>
> 765-584-2288 ext:1101
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] SBA tower / Avetta compliance

[Josh Luthman]

I spent a couple weeks with it.  I just dropped the idea and hired a crew
out of Columbus.

The health & safety document I "borrowed" from a large company out there
and then started changing the words.  Avetta still said it would be
30/60/90+ days before they'd review it.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 12:38 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> Hello gang,
>
> one of the towers we've been on for many years was sold to SBA.  SBA is
> now requiring that we get compliance certification from Avetta.  We've
> filled out the entire LONG questionnaire for Avetta however at the end they
> are asking us to upload a PDF of our "Safety & Health documentation".
>
> Has anyone else on the list gone thru this process?  Does anyone on the
> list have a "Safety and Health doc" they'd be willing to share that we
> could use as a template?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Sean
>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack

[Josh Luthman]

Working Gino


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 9:47 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
wrote:

> Test
>
> From: <members-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Sean Heskett <
> af...@zirkel.us>
> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Date: Friday, May 25, 2018 at 7:19 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>, "a...@afmug.com" 
> <a...@afmug.com>,
> "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Subject: [WISPA Members] SOHO router hack
>
> FBI recommends users at a minimum reboot their router to kill the
> malware.  Factory default, upgrade firmware and change passwords etc. is
> the best fix.
>
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/
> 05/fbi-tells-router-users-to-reboot-now-to-kill-malware-
> infecting-500k-devices/
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
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Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Just looking at January's bank statement.  IPPay charged me 2.482% of what
they deposited - everything included.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 12:16 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
wrote:

> We had to drop Authorize.net because they were simply incompetent.   They
> kept sending bills to customers and after hours on the phone with them,
> they didn’t even know how they were doing it.  And all this while trying to
> integrate the billing system itself.  Back to Paypal for the time being
> while we finish install VISP.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Bruce Bridegwater
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 04, 2018 5:43 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> We changed over from authorize .net to IPPAY 8 months ago. In comparison,
> we are charged approximately half of what we were in the past. Plus, the
> monthly statements for our expenses are easier to understand from IPPPAY.
>
>
>
> Sending receipts to customers is not the job of a processor. It should be
> your billing system. Should be able to look up all past transactions that
> are successful or not from within billing system. Who sends a copy of a
> failed authorization? The processor or the billing system? Plus the fees at
> authorize.net are much more expensive.
>
>
>
> [image: Coba Logo w trademark 6-23-17 for Facebook]
>
> Bruce Bridgewater bru...@cobasystems.net Website www.cobasystems.net
> Phone 956-616-5060 <1-956-616-5060>
>
> The company accepts no liability for the content of this email, or for the
> consequences of any actions taken on the basis of the information provided,
> unless that information is subsequently confirmed in writing. If you are
> not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying,
> distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this
> information is strictly prohibited.
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 03, 2018 8:00 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> But it's not their job. I'm not asking them to do my laundry either.
>
> That's the responsibility of whatever is feeding data to Authorize.Net\IP
> Pay.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
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>
> *From: *"ralph" <ralphli...@bsrg.org>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 7:56:45 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> If you haven’t heard of that, Mike, then you haven’t used Authorize.net.
>
>
>
> It IS IP Pay’s responsibility to listen to the customer’s  needs. If they
> want to stand out, then they will also adjust to and meet those needs. They
> should at LEAST provide a similar level of service to Authorize.net. Like I
> said, we are small and things like that help a LOT!
>
>
>
> Otherwise the customer leaves.  Maybe one day they will understand that
> they need to be flexible.  And it looks like I am not the only one with
> similar views.
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 3, 2018 6:58 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> It's not IP Pay's responsibility to do that. That's WiFiRush's
> responsibility. I've never heard of the credit card processor being
> involved at that level.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> [image: http://www.ics-il.com/im

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

What does it have that Powercode doesn't?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, Feb 3, 2018 at 8:31 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Well that’s what I mean. I need to look at everything when we go to make
> our change.
>
> Just looking at the surface it’s like $58/month.
>
> If it’s several hundred I’ll probably move everything.
>
> I do like the simplicity of stripe and the app makes it very easy to see
> what’s going on.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 20:05, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> 30c per transaction too.  Which is ironic that you're not complaining
> about ;P
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 3, 2018 8:01 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
>> 2.6% vs 2.9%.
>>
>> Plus stripe doesn’t have 10,000 fees
>>
>> Compliance fees
>> Government fees
>> PCI fees
>> Parking lot restriping fees
>>
>> We are about to re do our entire billing system. I’ll run the numbers and
>> let you know.
>>
>> It appears to be a difference of about $58 per month that using stripe
>> costs me.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:48, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Depends how much revenue you do.  The difference of what I'm paying
>> versus what the website said would be for me.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018 7:47 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <artiedarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your
>>> recommendation?
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Takes two minutes to setup.
>>>>
>>>>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
>>>> use.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe
>>>> like the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you
>>>> could, but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
>>>> friendly web and app.
>>>>
>>>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
>>>> job. But it’s not pretty.
>>>>
>>>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad
>>>> more. But it’s way better, IMHO.
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
>>>> IMHO.  Althoug

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

30c per transaction too.  Which is ironic that you're not complaining about
;P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 3, 2018 8:01 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> 2.6% vs 2.9%.
>
> Plus stripe doesn’t have 10,000 fees
>
> Compliance fees
> Government fees
> PCI fees
> Parking lot restriping fees
>
> We are about to re do our entire billing system. I’ll run the numbers and
> let you know.
>
> It appears to be a difference of about $58 per month that using stripe
> costs me.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:48, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Depends how much revenue you do.  The difference of what I'm paying versus
> what the website said would be for me.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Feb 3, 2018 7:47 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <artiedarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your
>> recommendation?
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Takes two minutes to setup.
>>>
>>>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
>>> use.
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe
>>> like the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you
>>> could, but...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>
>>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
>>> friendly web and app.
>>>
>>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
>>> job. But it’s not pretty.
>>>
>>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more.
>>> But it’s way better, IMHO.
>>>
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
>>> IMHO.  Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues
>>> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>>>
>>> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most
>>> customers pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing
>>> solution(WiFiRush)  uses Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment
>>> receipt with transaction number, etc. to the Email address the customer
>>> provides.  I also receive a copy, which is automatically sent to a folder
>>> that is only used in case there is a catastrophic failure of something and
>>> all billing records get lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send
>>> the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must
>>> manually look up re

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Depends how much revenue you do.  The difference of what I'm paying versus
what the website said would be for me.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 3, 2018 7:47 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> Josh. Stripe isn’t that much more than ippay
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:18, Artie Darrell <artiedarr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Matt sorry trying to catch up on this (long) thread.. What's your
> recommendation?
>
> On Feb 3, 2018 8:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Takes two minutes to setup.
>>
>>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
>> use.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>
>> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe like
>> the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you could,
>> but...
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
>> friendly web and app.
>>
>> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
>> job. But it’s not pretty.
>>
>> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more.
>> But it’s way better, IMHO.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
>> IMHO.  Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues
>> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>>
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>>
>> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>>
>>
>>
>> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers
>> pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush)  uses
>> Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction
>> number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides.  I also receive a
>> copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case
>> there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get
>> lost.
>>
>>
>>
>> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send
>> the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must
>> manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site.  This
>> is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer
>> name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is
>> good to know they are there.
>>
>>
>>
>> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.
>> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never
>> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.
>> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.
>>
>>
>>
>> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would
>> probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t
>> believe this is not an option of theirs!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wirele

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Worth spending a few minutes to save thousands.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 3, 2018 7:11 PM, "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
wrote:

> Takes two minutes to setup.
>
>  Very easy to review info from their app. Web interface is very easy to
> use.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 19:04, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
> In what way would Stripe be better? I like at people that use Stripe like
> the people that get their automotive parts from Walmart. Yeah, you could,
> but...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Saturday, February 3, 2018 11:54:07 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Exactly. Stripe has very very nice records of every thing. Very user
> friendly web and app.
>
> IPpay is like the Big Mac truck in Africa from 1985. Yeah. It does its
> job. But it’s not pretty.
>
> Stripe is like the hot new Tesla pickup. Maybe it costs just a tad more.
> But it’s way better, IMHO.
>
> On Feb 3, 2018, at 12:37, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:
>
> CTI (IP Pay) is generally not flexible and not all that ISP friendly
> IMHO.  Although I do use IP PAY integrated with VISP and have no issues
> with it other than what you describe in looking up transactions.
>
>
> Jeff
>
> On 2/3/2018 11:46 AM, ralph wrote:
>
> I will tell you my issue with IP Pay.
>
>
>
> We aren’t large. Our network runs like a giant Hotspot and most customers
> pay monthly when their time runs out.. Our billing solution(WiFiRush)  uses
> Authorize.net. Authorize.net sends a payment receipt with transaction
> number, etc. to the Email address the customer provides.  I also receive a
> copy, which is automatically sent to a folder that is only used in case
> there is a catastrophic failure of something and all billing records get
> lost.
>
>
>
> IP Pay is inflexible and refuses to do that. They want my system to send
> the receipt to the customer, which it does not.  They also say that I must
> manually look up records of any past transactions in their web site.  This
> is cumbersome and (for me) it is much easier to search for the customer
> name in my backup receipts that were Emailed. I seldom need them but it is
> good to know they are there.
>
>
>
> I once almost started using them but this issue stopped the show.
> Unfortunately they started billing me a monthly fee even though I never
> officially started using them and never processed any transactions at all.
> It was a lot of difficulty to make them stop charging me.
>
>
>
> If they would simply send the receipts, like Authorize.net does, I would
> probably switch to them since they are supposedly “ISP Friendly”. I can’t
> believe this is not an option of theirs!
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:01 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> I think you need to re-visit IP Pay, Propay, etc. for current quotes.
> Stripe absolutely is more expensive.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http:/

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Richesin]

Agreed!


Josh Richesin
Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>
www.surelinebroadband.com<http://www.surelinebroadband.com>
596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
Madras, OR 97741


From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Brett A Mansfield 
<li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 2:20 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier to 
configure, manage, use, etc.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Only 50% higher, geez.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Brett A Mansfield" 
<li...@silverlakeinternet.com<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe includes 
free ACH now.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Richesin" 
<j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that with 
tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information from all 
of the customers again.  The first point being more important than the second.


Josh Richesin
Phone: (541) 699-0030<tel:(541)%20699-0030>  |  Fax (541) 
526-0988<tel:(541)%20526-0988>
j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>
www.surelinebroadband.com<http://www.surelinebroadband.com>
596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
Madras, OR 97741


From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>> on behalf 
of Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>
Reply-To: WIS

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Can't remember that far back but wouldn't be surprised we were 100 when we
signed up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 17, 2018 6:06 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
wrote:

> They must have quoted you much better rates than they quoted me then.
>
> Also, when I got my initial quote with them I had fewer than 100 subs. As
> I’ve added it will naturally cost less per sub because it offsets the
> monthly cost. It may be cheaper now.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> My bill disagrees with you but it's up to you.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 17, 2018 5:43 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yes, I did a long time ago. After the monthly cost including the
>> processing fees it was more expensive.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> You didn't talk to IPPay then.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
>> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier
>>> to configure, manage, use, etc.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Only 50% higher, geez.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> --
>>>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>>
>>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
>>>> includes free ACH now.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <ht

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

My bill disagrees with you but it's up to you.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jan 17, 2018 5:43 PM, "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
wrote:

> Yes, I did a long time ago. After the monthly cost including the
> processing fees it was more expensive.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:24 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> You didn't talk to IPPay then.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
> li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>
>> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier
>> to configure, manage, use, etc.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Only 50% higher, geez.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>
>>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
>>> includes free ACH now.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>
>>> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on
>>> that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card
>>> information from all of the customers again.  The first point being more
>>> important than the second.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Richesin
>>>
>>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>>
>>> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>>>
>>&

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

You didn't talk to IPPay then.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Brett A Mansfield <
li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:

> Still lower than the quotes I got from all the others. Plus, it’s easier
> to configure, manage, use, etc.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Only 50% higher, geez.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
>> includes free ACH now.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on
>> that with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card
>> information from all of the customers again.  The first point being more
>> important than the second.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Richesin
>>
>> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>>
>> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>>
>> www.surelinebroadband.com
>>
>> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>>
>> Madras, OR 97741
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
>> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
>> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>>
>>
>> Why would you use Stripe?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Interne

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Only 50% higher, geez.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

> Stripe's published pricing is way above the ISP-focused providers.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:56:49 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> I pay less with Stripe than I would with all of those. Plus, stipe
> includes free ACH now.
>
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
>
> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
> Less than IP Pay, Pro Pay, etc.? ISP-specific payment systems?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that
> with tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information
> from all of the customers again.  The first point being more important than
> the second.
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Richesin
>
> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>
> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>
> www.surelinebroadband.com
>
> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>
> Madras, OR 97741
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *<wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett <
> wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
> *To: *WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
>
>
> Why would you use Stripe?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
>
> *From: *"Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> If only they had stripe integration.
>
>
>
>
>
> Josh Richesin
>
> Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
>
> j...@surelinebroadband.com
>
> www.surelinebroadband.com
>
> 596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
>
> Madras, OR 97741
>
>
>
>
>
> *Fro

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Richesin]

Lower cost on the CC processing, also, our current system is built on that with 
tokens, so it would avoid us having to collect credit card information from all 
of the customers again.  The first point being more important than the second.


Josh Richesin
Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>
www.surelinebroadband.com<http://www.surelinebroadband.com>
596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
Madras, OR 97741


From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 12:05 PM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Why would you use Stripe?


-
Mike Hammett
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The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
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From: "Josh Richesin" <j...@surelinebroadband.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:01:30 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
If only they had stripe integration.


Josh Richesin
Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>
www.surelinebroadband.com<http://www.surelinebroadband.com>
596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
Madras, OR 97741


From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first 
place.


-
Mike Hammett
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From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.  Everyone 
else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending their time on 
other things instead of replacing what's already working.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that fashion.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/com

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Richesin]

If only they had stripe integration.


Josh Richesin
Phone: (541) 699-0030  |  Fax (541) 526-0988
j...@surelinebroadband.com<mailto:j...@surelinebroadband.com>
www.surelinebroadband.com<http://www.surelinebroadband.com>
596 SW 4th Street  |  Mail: 380 SW 5th Street
Madras, OR 97741


From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM
To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the first 
place.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
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The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.  Everyone 
else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending their time on 
other things instead of replacing what's already working.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett 
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that fashion.


-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/googleicon.png]<https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
Midwest Internet Exchange<http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/linkedinicon.png]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/twittericon.png]<https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
The Brothers WISP<http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
[http://www.ics-il.com/images/fbicon.png]<https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>[http://www.ics-il.com/images/youtubeicon.png]<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>

From: "Josh Luthman" 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM

Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using the 
Powercode BMU.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:(937)%20552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:(937)%20552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart 
<t...@nwohiobb.com<mailto:t...@nwohiobb.com>> wrote:
Brian
Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
was using iwisp.gr<http://iwisp.gr> I just switched to powercode about week ago 
and my
powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime I
call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.

Tim

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
Behalf Of Alan Luelf
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Oh it was very much a solution!!!  Mikrotik didn't have an API back then
and the command structure has even changed a bit since those days.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

> Seems like the BMU was a solution to a problem that didn't exist in the
> first place.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:26:40 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.
> Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending
> their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> wrote:
>
>> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that
>> fashion.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using
>> the Powercode BMU.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Brian
>>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
>>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
>>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and
>>> everytime I
>>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
>>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
>>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>>
>>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
>>> > working out.  I've been using Freesid

Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

I imagine it's for new customers or customers stuck in their ways.
Everyone else running Powercode is already running the BMU and spending
their time on other things instead of replacing what's already working.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:24 PM, Mike Hammett <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
wrote:

> It amazes me that it has taken them t his long to support MT in that
> fashion.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:23:15 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using
> the Powercode BMU.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:
>
>> Brian
>> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
>> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
>> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and
>> everytime I
>> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
>> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
>> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>>
>> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
>> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
>> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
>> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
>> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
>> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
>> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
>> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
>> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
>> > dislike about it?
>> >
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution

[Josh Luthman]

Mikrotik BMU is still in beta.  Pretty much everyone is currently using the
Powercode BMU.


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On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:21 PM, Tim Reichhart <t...@nwohiobb.com> wrote:

> Brian
> Your still around the business? I haven't spoken to you in long while.. I
> was using iwisp.gr I just switched to powercode about week ago and my
> powercode isn't working due to miktroik bmu is still in beta and everytime
> I
> call into support I get excuses it just seems like powercode lacks the
> support for there software. If powercode doesn't get there act together I
> might be looking to switch to ubnt crm or sonar.
>
> Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Alan Luelf
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing Solution
>
> We use Sonar. There is also powercode, Azotel, visp.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:22 AM, Brian Rohrbacher <br...@reliableinter.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > What do we got out there for billing solutions?  My current one is not
> > working out.  I've been using Freeside for a number of years now and I
> > liked it but they don't have any support staff left and seem to be
> > falling apart.  I've been constantly requesting an SSL renewal for 45
> > days and they just can't get it done.  It's beyond frustrating, time
> > consuming and embarrassing try to explain to hundreds of customers why
> > my payment site is not secure.  I can't take it anymore.  I need some
> > recommendations on whats out there.  I want good support.  I need a
> > solution with support.  What's everybody using?  What do you like and
> > dislike about it?
> >
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
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Re: [WISPA] [Mikrotik Users] FS: Easy pass thru RJ45s heavy gold plated

[Josh Luthman]

None of these lists are for spamming ads...

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On Dec 23, 2017 9:51 PM, "TJ Trout via Mikrotik-users" <
mikrotik-us...@wispa.org> wrote:

> Easy to install RJ45 connectors, plated in rare 50 micron GOLD, most
> connectors are only plated with 3 micron of gold.
>
> Rated for CAT5E but CAT6 seems to fit and work well. Thousands deployed in
> the field over the last 12 months prior to offering these for sale. Fits
> tough cable carrier.
>
> Pics;
>
> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxHZtFLNWX_OWU9QTzY5bkNSNzg
>
> $40 / 100 sheilded
> $350 / 1000 shielded (Free Shipping)
>
> $30 / 100 unshielded
> $250 / 1000 unshielded (Free Shipping)
>
> contact offlist / paypal t...@pcguys.us
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Re: [WISPA] Hard hat class

[Josh Luthman]

I've heard there are different classes but if you get the good Petzl chin
straps one you should be set entirely.


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On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> I’ve never heard that.  Climbers do need one with a chin strap though.
>
> Check with a supplier like GME or check with whoever you use to certify
> your climbers.
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2017 at 12:42 PM Scott Piehn <li...@jcwifi.com> wrote:
>
>> We are getting new hard hats for our ground people when around a tower.
>> I seem to remember the standard helmet class is not enough even if the
>> person is just a ground person.  they still need a different class hard
>> hat.  Does this ring a bell with anyone and if so, what class hard hat am I
>> looking for
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

[Josh Luthman]

Legally there is.

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On Dec 16, 2017 12:17 PM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There is nothing wrong with prioritizing one type of service over another
> (VOIP vs FTP).  It leads to a better quality of service for the end user.
> Where this was going sideways earlier was when the big ISP companies were
> going to charge Netflix and Hulu directly if they wanted priority on their
> backbones.
>
> On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 7:48 PM, Sean Heskett <s...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>
>> Yes but do you prioritize vonage over ooma???
>>
>> -Sean
>>
>> [Sent from mobile]
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2017, at 6:33 PM, James Wilson <ja...@ridgecomms.com> wrote:
>>
>> Don't we prioritize VoIP?
>>
>> On Dec 15, 2017 4:04 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is fantastic.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
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>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
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>>>
>>> On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For your use, re-posted from last week:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet
>>>> Freedom” *
>>>>
>>>> December 2017
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Overview for WISPA Members *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   These talking points are *not* intended to be used
>>>> proactively. WISPA is not taking a proactive role in advocacy on this
>>>> issue, and we do not recommend that you do.
>>>>
>>>> ·   The intent is to help you be prepared for media and public
>>>> inquiries if they do come in.
>>>>
>>>> ·   If you receive a query about your company’s position on net
>>>> neutrality, or WISPA’s position, we encourage you to refer it to us to
>>>> handle. Please send it to:
>>>>
>>>> o   Dale Curtis, WISPA Communications Support,
>>>> d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com
>>>>
>>>> ·   If you do choose to answer a media or public query:
>>>>
>>>> o   Please let us know, preferably in advance; and
>>>>
>>>> o   Please stick to this script; going off script could create
>>>> problems for you and your business.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *General Tips *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   Any statements you make must be 100% truthful and backed-up
>>>> with facts; so please don’t say anything that is untrue or unsupportable
>>>> with facts.
>>>>
>>>> ·   If you don’t know the answer to a question, just say so. A
>>>> convenient way to say it is: “I don’t know about *that*, but what I do
>>>> know is …”
>>>>
>>>> ·   Don’t bring up other issues.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Talking Points *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   *Let’s be clear: We support a free and open internet. *
>>>>
>>>> o   We don’t block, throttle, or prioritize any content.
>>>>
>>>> o   We disclose our terms of service in plain English.
>>>>
>>>> o   We support robust privacy protections for our customers.
>>>>
>>>> o   Those are the core elements of “net neutrality,” and we support
>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   *We believe you can have a free and open internet without
>>>> heavy-handed regulation and enforcement that is ill-suited for small
>>>> providers. *
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   What was wrong with the way the internet was regulated up
>>>> until two years ago? It worked well then, and it will again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   FCC regulations designed to treat all internet providers like
>>>> large monopoly utilities – with open-ended and vaguely worded requirements,
>>>> all subject to bureaucratic whim – are taking resources away from
>>>> investment in under-served areas and diverting them instead toward lawyers
>>>> and compliance consultants.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ·   When our compliance costs go up because of government action,
>>>> we either have to reduce investment in our business or pass those costs on
>>>> to our customers.
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] W9 Needed

[Josh Luthman]

To who??

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On Dec 15, 2017 8:29 PM, "Alan Belvo" <a...@zirkel.us> wrote:

> Greetings, We need a W-9 completed for our payments to you.  Please let me
> know if you have any questions.
>
>
> You can use our bookkeeper's secure online form at https://www.
> singletrackbookkeeping.com/w9/
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> *Alan Belvo*
> *ZIRKEL Wireless *
>
> *Internet for Northwest Colorado*970-871-8500 x101 <(970)%20871-8500>
>  office
> 970-846-8060 <(970)%20846-8060>  mobile
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Re: [WISPA] Network Neutrality talking points

[Josh Luthman]

This is fantastic.

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On Dec 15, 2017 3:53 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> For your use, re-posted from last week:
>
>
> *Talking Points for WISPA Members on “Net Neutrality” and “Internet
> Freedom” *
>
> December 2017
>
>
>
> *Overview for WISPA Members *
>
>
>
> ·   These talking points are *not* intended to be used proactively.
> WISPA is not taking a proactive role in advocacy on this issue, and we do
> not recommend that you do.
>
> ·   The intent is to help you be prepared for media and public
> inquiries if they do come in.
>
> ·   If you receive a query about your company’s position on net
> neutrality, or WISPA’s position, we encourage you to refer it to us to
> handle. Please send it to:
>
> o   Dale Curtis, WISPA Communications Support,
> d...@dalecurtiscommunications.com
>
> ·   If you do choose to answer a media or public query:
>
> o   Please let us know, preferably in advance; and
>
> o   Please stick to this script; going off script could create problems
> for you and your business.
>
>
>
> *General Tips *
>
>
>
> ·   Any statements you make must be 100% truthful and backed-up with
> facts; so please don’t say anything that is untrue or unsupportable with
> facts.
>
> ·   If you don’t know the answer to a question, just say so. A
> convenient way to say it is: “I don’t know about *that*, but what I do
> know is …”
>
> ·   Don’t bring up other issues.
>
>
>
> *Talking Points *
>
>
>
> ·   *Let’s be clear: We support a free and open internet. *
>
> o   We don’t block, throttle, or prioritize any content.
>
> o   We disclose our terms of service in plain English.
>
> o   We support robust privacy protections for our customers.
>
> o   Those are the core elements of “net neutrality,” and we support them.
>
>
>
>
> ·   *We believe you can have a free and open internet without
> heavy-handed regulation and enforcement that is ill-suited for small
> providers. *
>
>
>
> ·   What was wrong with the way the internet was regulated up until
> two years ago? It worked well then, and it will again.
>
>
>
> ·   FCC regulations designed to treat all internet providers like
> large monopoly utilities – with open-ended and vaguely worded requirements,
> all subject to bureaucratic whim – are taking resources away from
> investment in under-served areas and diverting them instead toward lawyers
> and compliance consultants.
>
>
>
> ·   When our compliance costs go up because of government action, we
> either have to reduce investment in our business or pass those costs on to
> our customers.
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

[Josh Luthman]

Lucky you!!!


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On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 12/15/17 09:40, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Do you not have a DMCA contact?  I get these things daily and I have a
> > pretty small customer count with a geographic that I would suspect is
> > minimally using Bittorrent.
> >
>
>
> Not daily, no. Maybe once or twice a month for me.
>
> ~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

[Josh Luthman]

Do you not have a DMCA contact?  I get these things daily and I have a
pretty small customer count with a geographic that I would suspect is
minimally using Bittorrent.


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On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 12/13/17 9:04 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
> > I want to be able to throttle torrent users.  Beyond that, I don't think
> it will affect us much in areas of high-competition.
>
>
> I don't really see torrents as a major thing anymore, not like what it
> used to be anyway.
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Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers

[Josh Luthman]

Damn DMCA notices!

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On Dec 15, 2017 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Why?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 13, 2017 11:04:43 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers
>
> I want to be able to throttle torrent users.  Beyond that, I don't think
> it will affect us much in areas of high-competition.
>
> Rory
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Seth Mattinen
> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 6:57 PM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Net neutrality & bandwidth providers
>
> On 12/10/17 2:44 PM, Chadwick Wachs wrote:
> > What are the current thoughts on the effects of net neutrality being
> > over turned on our bandwidth providers? I understand how the cable and
> > DSL companies may react but as a small WISP, I've been thinking this
> > will have little impact on us and our customers (since we don't intend
> > on changing our policies) but I may not be thinking about the bigger
> > picture enough. Perhaps my bandwidth and upstream fiber providers will
> > raise rates or charge premium fees for fast lanes to middle mile access.
>
>
> Nothing. It wasn't mayhem in the decades before 2015 and it won't suddenly
> become a problem now. The big guys are always going to try some crap until
> someone calls them on it, "net neutrality" or not.
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Re: [WISPA] CBRS cliff notes

[Josh Luthman]

That would be a lot of cliff notes if you want all things CBRS...


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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Jill Schumacher <jschumac...@aristotle.net>
wrote:

> Has anyone generated a cliff notes document of all things CBRS?
>
>
>
> I don’t have my mind wrapped around all the details and haven’t had a
> chance to sit down with all of the FCC documents to create one.
>
>
>
> Jill
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?

[Josh Luthman]

Money...

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On Dec 8, 2017 12:19 PM, "CBB - Jay Fuller" <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
wrote:

>
> Why do you want to buy a WISP?
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* t...@steelinternet.com
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 7, 2017 9:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?
>
> Good question,
>
>
>
> Bill, my name is Timothy Steele we have met before.  I am in the market
> for purchasing a WISP. No idea where to begin.  Could I get your email
> address? Mine is t...@fiberxstream.com and anyone else on this list aware
> of a WISP selling or any brokers etc. also please let me know.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> -TJ
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Bill MacNamara
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 5:35 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Broker Recommendations to Sell WISP?
>
>
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> Would be happy to talk with you offline, I have been a lender to the WISP
> space for over 12 years and have financed dozens of tranactions. Best way
> to reach me would be by phone (928) 970-1340.
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
>
>
>
> Bill MacNamara
>
>
>
>
> Bill MacNamara
>
> (928) 970-1340
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 5:33 PM, <jfrank...@brightlinetechsolutions.com>
> wrote:
>
> Please share your recommendations and/or experiences with business brokers
> or other suggestions for selling a WISP.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> Jeffrey A. Franklin, Esq.
>
> Principal Consultant
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum

[Josh Luthman]

Your NN expires.

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1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373

On Dec 6, 2017 6:38 PM, "Jan Van Kort" <j.vank...@oregononline.net> wrote:

> I use that now, where does CBRS get tied to 3.6 equipment?  I read the fcc
> blurb on cbrs and they didn't cover 3.6, only mentioned cb radios and 40
> channels.  Didn't know anybody still used that stuff, grew out of that 40
> years ago.
>
> On 2017-12-06 03:05 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>
> CBRS is the 3.55-3.7GHz band (not 2.6-2.7)
>
> and yes there’s lots of equipment ready to use the band.  cambium canopy
> and all the LTE vendors have product.
>
> *Sean Heskett*
>
> *ZIRKEL Wireless *
> *High-Speed Internet for NW Colorado*
> 970-871-8500 x100 <(970)%20871-8500> - Office
> 970-846-8065 <(970)%20846-8065> - mobile
> 866-903-4628 <(866)%20903-4628> - Fax
> Website <http://www.zirkelwireless.com/> | Facebook
> <http://www.facebook.com/zirkelwireless>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 3:58 PM, Jan Van Kort <j.vank...@oregononline.net>
> wrote:
>
> CBRS? is there any wisp equipment available in the 2.6-2.7Mhz band?  Do
> you really think a Verizon schill in charge of the FCC is going to give a
> crap about what the citizens/tax-payers need or want?  The only thing he
> might respect is a law-suit.  Protests would only help him laugh.
>
> On 2017-12-06 02:12 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
>
> Too many mailing lists, and it doesn’t help that most of mine sort into
> the same folder so it’s hard to tell which list a given posting is on.
>
> I sent it to members just now.
>
> Mark
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 4:12 PM, Rick Harnish <rick.harn...@baicells.com>
> wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Just curious, why was this not posted to memb...@wispa.org.  My
> experience tells me that this list is not populated with near as many
> people as the members list is.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> --
> Rick Harnish
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 4:11 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW,
> and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum
>
>
>
> The feedback we are getting back from DC is that certain parties at the
> FCC noticed our #CBRS tags but didn’t think it was getting much traction.
>  So… time to ramp it up.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
> Do you really think this is going to do anything though? It's very easy to
> post something like this on Facebook, but I feel like it really doesn't
> have any actual affect.
>
> Kind of like some of the protesters we've seen in recent months and years
> where you have to ask yourself it's great that you have an opinion but is
> your protest really doing anything.
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 09:02, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> *You all screamed a month ago when the CBRS order came out and wanted to
> do something about it.   NOW IS THE TIME, and very few of you are
> participating.   Please follow the instructions below.   *
> This isn’t that difficult.  If you can’t figure it out, ask the youngest
> person on your staff.
>
>   The FCC is laughing at us - they know they sucked all the
> air out of the room with Network Neutrality and they intentionally timed
> the publication and comment deadlines for CBRS to bury them in the NN
> controversy and the holidays.   And it’s working for them.
>
> *PLEASE post comments on your business and/or personal accounts on
> Twitter, Facebook, and/or LinkedIn in support of CBRS.   *
>
>
> 1)*Be part of our Twitter campaign:* Take a clear picture of a rural
> or small-town location near you that could be better served with fixed
> wireless and CBRS spectrum. Upload it to your social media account with
> language like the following. Be sure to tag WISPA, your Members of
> Congress, and the White House.
>
> Please keep it professional and *do not* *criticize *any FCC
> commissioners or other government officials; we need their support! You can
> identify your Members of Congress by visiting www.House.gov
> <http://www.house.gov/> or www.Senate.gov <http://www.senate.gov/>, and
> their social media links

Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum

[Josh Luthman]

wireless would have to be more than members, no?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Rick Harnish <rick.harn...@baicells.com>
wrote:

> Mark,
>
>
>
> Just curious, why was this not posted to memb...@wispa.org.  My
> experience tells me that this list is not populated with near as many
> people as the members list is.
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> -[image: BaiCells_Tiny3]-
>
> Rick Harnish
>
>
>
> Director of WISP Markets
>
>
>
> Baicells Technologies North America, Inc. <https://na.baicells.com/>
>
> Mobile:  (972) 922-1443
>
>
>
> rick.harn...@baicells.com
>
> www.facebook.com/baicells
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 6, 2017 4:11 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW,
> and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> The feedback we are getting back from DC is that certain parties at the
> FCC noticed our #CBRS tags but didn’t think it was getting much traction.
>  So… time to ramp it up.
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 9:25 AM, Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Do you really think this is going to do anything though? It's very easy to
> post something like this on Facebook, but I feel like it really doesn't
> have any actual affect.
>
> Kind of like some of the protesters we've seen in recent months and years
> where you have to ask yourself it's great that you have an opinion but is
> your protest really doing anything.
>
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 09:02, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> *You all screamed a month ago when the CBRS order came out and wanted to
> do something about it.   NOW IS THE TIME, and very few of you are
> participating.   Please follow the instructions below.   *
>
> This isn’t that difficult.  If you can’t figure it out, ask the youngest
> person on your staff.
>
>
>
>   The FCC is laughing at us - they know they sucked all the
> air out of the room with Network Neutrality and they intentionally timed
> the publication and comment deadlines for CBRS to bury them in the NN
> controversy and the holidays.   And it’s working for them.
>
>
>
> *PLEASE post comments on your business and/or personal accounts on
> Twitter, Facebook, and/or LinkedIn in support of CBRS.   *
>
>
>
> 1)*Be part of our Twitter campaign:* Take a clear picture of a rural
> or small-town location near you that could be better served with fixed
> wireless and CBRS spectrum. Upload it to your social media account with
> language like the following. Be sure to tag WISPA, your Members of
> Congress, and the White House.
>
>
>
> Please keep it professional and *do not* *criticize *any FCC
> commissioners or other government officials; we need their support! You can
> identify your Members of Congress by visiting www.House.gov
> <http://www.house.gov/> or www.Senate.gov <http://www.senate.gov/>, and
> their social media links will be listed on their websites.
>
>
>
> *Twitter (no more than 280 characters):*
>
>
>
> Dear @FCC: Here’s another area at risk of never getting broadband service
> if you change the #CBRS rules to favor big mobile carriers. Insert rural
> photo https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member of Congress’s Twitter
> name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
>
> Calling all WISPA members, WISP customers, and allies: Help us tell @FCC
> that the current #CBRS rules are helping to close the rural broadband gap
> and should not be tinkered with! https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your
> member of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
>
> Dear @FCC: Don’t sink our hopes for rural broadband; keep the #CBRS rules!
> https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member of Congress’s Twitter name here] 
> @WhiteHouse
> @WISPANews
>
>
>
> Attention @FCC: Don't take away rural consumers' best hope for finally
> closing the broadband gap! Keep the #CBRS
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBRS?src=hash> rules! https://goo.gl/TKczyK 
> [insert
> your member of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
>
> Hey @FCC -- Don’t leave rural areas behind by changing the #CBRS rules to
> favor the big mobile companies! https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member
> of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse

Re: [WISPA] CBRS Spectrum - PLEASE DO THIS TODAY, TOMORROW, and every day next week. It's time to ACT to save CBRS spectrum

[Josh Luthman]

In the other thread I think we came to the conclusion Twitter is better
than Facebook.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Do you really think this is going to do anything though? It's very easy to
> post something like this on Facebook, but I feel like it really doesn't
> have any actual affect.
>
> Kind of like some of the protesters we've seen in recent months and years
> where you have to ask yourself it's great that you have an opinion but is
> your protest really doing anything.
>
> On Dec 6, 2017, at 09:02, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> *You all screamed a month ago when the CBRS order came out and wanted to
> do something about it.   NOW IS THE TIME, and very few of you are
> participating.   Please follow the instructions below.   *
>
> This isn’t that difficult.  If you can’t figure it out, ask the youngest
> person on your staff.
>
> The FCC is laughing at us - they know they sucked all the air out of the
> room with Network Neutrality and they intentionally timed the publication
> and comment deadlines for CBRS to bury them in the NN controversy and the
> holidays.   And it’s working for them.
>
>
> *PLEASE post comments on your business and/or personal accounts on
> Twitter, Facebook, and/or LinkedIn in support of CBRS.   *
>
>
> 1)*Be part of our Twitter campaign:* Take a clear picture of a rural
> or small-town location near you that could be better served with fixed
> wireless and CBRS spectrum. Upload it to your social media account with
> language like the following. Be sure to tag WISPA, your Members of
> Congress, and the White House.
>
>
> Please keep it professional and *do not* *criticize *any FCC
> commissioners or other government officials; we need their support! You can
> identify your Members of Congress by visiting www.House.gov
> <http://www.house.gov/> or www.Senate.gov <http://www.senate.gov/>, and
> their social media links will be listed on their websites.
>
>
> *Twitter (no more than 280 characters):*
>
>
> Dear @FCC: Here’s another area at risk of never getting broadband service
> if you change the #CBRS rules to favor big mobile carriers. Insert rural
> photo https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member of Congress’s Twitter
> name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
> Calling all WISPA members, WISP customers, and allies: Help us tell @FCC
> that the current #CBRS rules are helping to close the rural broadband gap
> and should not be tinkered with! https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your
> member of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
> Dear @FCC: Don’t sink our hopes for rural broadband; keep the #CBRS rules!
> https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member of Congress’s Twitter name here] 
> @WhiteHouse
> @WISPANews
>
>
> Attention @FCC: Don't take away rural consumers' best hope for finally
> closing the broadband gap! Keep the #CBRS
> <https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBRS?src=hash> rules! https://goo.gl/TKczyK 
> [insert
> your member of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
> Hey @FCC -- Don’t leave rural areas behind by changing the #CBRS rules to
> favor the big mobile companies! https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member
> of Congress’s Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews
>
>
> In the #CBRS <https://twitter.com/hashtag/CBRS?src=hash> spectrum band, 
> census-tract-sized
> PAL licenses are crucial for bringing broadband internet to rural
> customers. https://goo.gl/TKczyK [insert your member of Congress’s
> Twitter name here] @WhiteHouse @WISPANews @FCC
>
>
> *Facebook and LinkedIn:*
>
>
> Dear @FCC: Don’t leave rural areas like mine behind by changing the #CBRS
> rules to favor the big mobile companies! @Your-member-of-Congress: Please
> let FCC know your views! More info at WISPA.org: https://goo.gl/TKczyK
>
>
> Any of the above options will work as well.
>
>
>
> 2)*The “easy way”:*  Follow WISPA on these networks, watch for our
> posts, and then “like,” “retweet,” “share,” etc. We will be using the
> hashtag #CBRS.
>
>
>
>
>
> 3)Down the road, we will ask you to contact your U.S. House and U.S.
> Senate members; be prepared to draft your company’s official comments to
> the FCC; and sign on to WISPA’s industry letters to the FCC and/or
> Congress. Stay tuned!
>
>
>
>
> *FOR MORE INFORMATION: *
>
> · Jimmy Carr, Chair of WISPA’s Legislative Committee,
> jc...@wispa.org
>
> · Mark Radabaugh, Chair of WISPA’s FCC Committee, m...@amplex.net
>
>
>
&g

Re: [WISPA] video stream rate limiting

[Josh Luthman]

Procera.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> What's the best way to limit video streaming speeds.  Short term on Linux
> Firewall, long term on Microtik.
>
> thanks
>
>
>
>
> --
> Marco C. Coelho
> Argon Technologies Inc.
> POB 875
> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> 903-455-5036 <(903)%20455-5036>
>
> ___
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> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance

[Josh Luthman]

FEMA is booking the hotel rooms but not helping.  That makes it rough.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Sep 29, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
wrote:

> Lol similar situation here… all hotels booked by FEMA/DHS staff… little
> action
>
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Michael Meluskey <
> m...@broadband.vi>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Friday, September 29, 2017 at 12:50 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Cc: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: Puerto Rico assistance
>
> As are US Virgin Islanders.
> We have seen FEMA / DHS talk a big game in the VI, but they have
> accomplished very little.  They did send the marines to clear a remote road
> on St. John.  No fuel help, no transport help.  But they have filled all
> our hotel rooms and are enjoying room service and air conditioning.
> Mike - going on a diesel fuel run to a remote tower site
>
> On Sep 29, 2017, at 12:16 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>
> Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens.
>
> The Internet is "critical infrastructure".
>
> Is there anything that WISPA can do in Washington D.C. to "remind" the
> FCC, FEMA and DHS of these facts and light a fire under their butts?
>
> jack
>
> On 9/27/2017 7:20 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> We are in touch with FEMA and DHS… but no help…
>
> From: <members-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Michael Meluskey <
> m...@broadband.vi>
> Reply-To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Date: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 3:41 PM
> To: "memb...@wispa.org" <memb...@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA Members] Fwd: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
> Hi Guys,
> Broadband VI is in a similar predicament as Gino.  We had double the
> pleasure, Irma for St. Thomas and St. John, Maria for St. Croix.
> We are taking advantage of private relief aircraft for our critical
> material.
>
> Since Aeronet is critical infrastructure, FEMA and DHS have people
> dedicated to helping Telcos.  Gino needs to find these people and have them
> ship down the gear he needs.
>
> Mike Meluskey
> Broadband VI
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
> On Sep 27, 2017, at 3:31 PM, Jack Unger <jun...@ask-wi.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 23:03:07 -0400
> From: Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> <i...@wirelessmapping.com>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
> To: 'WISPA General List' <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
>
> Daniel,
> I am heading up the WECAT response for this. Please send
> me an email to bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com. Gino Villarini is a large
> WISP on the island who has requested help. The problem is logistics right
> now. His replacement equipment is still stateside and we are working on
> ways to get it to him. He has asked that I coordinate the manpower
> resources and response. There are no scheduled commercial flights to the
> island yet. Until he gets the equipment there,. Having people show up is
> not prudent. He is working on a detailed manpower list for me once that
> equipment hits the island.
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] *On Behalf Of *Daniel K
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:10 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Puerto Rico assistance
>
> Back in 2005 Mac Dearman had organized some relief for the gulf coast
> after Hurricane Katrina -- I believe it was under an organization called
> RadioResponse, which I'm not finding much on now.
>
> I spent several weeks with them in Mississippi helping set up phones,
> communications, and computers for several of the shelters and helping some
> of the local WISPs get back on their feet.
>
> Does anyone know of anything similar for Puerto Rico? I don't have much
> for resources but do have an authorized climber certification and a strong
> electrical, mechanical, network, and WISP background that I'm sure could
> benefit any similar effort if there is one

Re: [WISPA] snowbird - seasonal packages & pricing

[Josh Luthman]

With Powercode we take off the "montly internet service" which enables them
to have Internet, speed rating, etc and then add a "monthly service" which
does all the normal billing stuff but doesn't add any Internet speed
plan/allow them to get online.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Jeff Evans <jev...@pennwisp.com> wrote:

> For those of you who offer this service, how are your packages
> structured?  I can see 2 packages, one where the internet is actually
> not available at all and one where there is a minimal connection for
> home monitoring.  I am interested in minimum terms of full package
> pricing and if you charge a minimum for the inactive period.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --
> Jeff Evans, Managing Member
> PennWisp, LLC
> www.pennwisp.com
>
> ___
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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Accounting Software to Replace PC Based Quickbooks

[Josh Luthman]

My accountant(s) practice on Quickbooks.  Because of this, Quickbooks.  The
only thing I do every month is download transactions from checking accounts
to Quickbooks and manual bill pay.  The latter could easily be done via the
bank, but it's a legacy thing.  I'll move some day.

What does your accountant want you to use?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:15 AM, Tom Fadgen via WISP <w...@wispa.org>
wrote:

>
> Every 3 years I replace my Quickbooks software with the new version
> since they will no longer support some features with the old versions.
> This year I lost my part time bookkeeper that would come in once a
> week and all the new part-timers want to work remote which makes an
> online service the best choice. I use ADP for payroll and integrated
> time keeping and I use Powercode for receivables. I am looking at the
> following:
>
> Quickbooks Online
> Freshbooks
> Zoho
>
> I am sure I am not the only one that has made or is looking into this.
> What is everyone else using. I believe that Quickbooks is the dominant
> player here and but I am not quite sure they are the best for me
> needs.
>
> What is everyone else using?
>
> Tom Fadgen
> coastinet.com
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450i Repair Paul McCall

[Josh Luthman]

Things to fix.  One tower down.  Sounds like he's got a handle on it thanks
to some bama guys.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sep 12, 2017 10:56 AM, "Jay Weekley" <par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

> Speaking of Pdmnet.  I wonder how did Paul during the storm.
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> > SWG or after a while Pdmnet (Florida)
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Sep 12, 2017 10:49 AM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:coelh...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Suggestions for who to send a 450i for repair?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Marco C. Coelho
> > Argon Technologies Inc.
> > POB 875
> > Greenville, TX 75403-0875
> > 903-455-5036 <tel:%28903%29%20455-5036>
> >
> > ___
> > Wireless mailing list
> > Wireless@wispa.org <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org>
> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> > <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless>
> >
> >
> > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email;
> utm_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient>
> >   Virus-free. www.avg.com
> > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email;
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450i Repair

[Josh Luthman]

SWG or after a while Pdmnet (Florida)

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On Sep 12, 2017 10:49 AM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Suggestions for who to send a 450i for repair?
>
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Re: [WISPA] PSA: BGP broke 650k routes

[Josh Luthman]

Lol...that's what I had on one peer.  What a kick in the nuts.


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On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Mike Francis <mfran...@jmfsolutions.net>
wrote:

> I pulled our graphs real quick and the max IPV4 prefixes I am seeing on
> any carrier over the past 4 weeks is 650.67k routes.
> John Michael Francis II
> JMF Solutions, Inc
> Wavefly - Internet | Voip | Cloud
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> If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway.
> If you are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed
> anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway.
> Honesty and transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent
> anyway. What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build
> anyway. People who really want help may attack you if you help them. Help
> them anyway. Give the world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give
> the world your best anyway." By: Mother Teresa
> On 9/11/2017 11:43 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Do you by chance graph and know what that peak number was?
>
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> On Sep 11, 2017 12:36 PM, "Nick Bright" <nick.bri...@valnet.net> wrote:
>
>> This has happened a few times before when big Tier 1's like Verizon or
>> Level 3 make an aggregation or filter mistake. Usually they correct it
>> within a few hours.
>>
>> On 9/8/2017 6:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> I'm not sure where the 650k max-prefix-limit came from - consultant or I
>> thought it was plentiful - but both of my peers just hit 650.6k and 651.2k
>> routes which caused all kinds of fun this morning.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <%28937%29%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <%28937%29%20552-2343>
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Re: [WISPA] PSA: BGP broke 650k routes

[Josh Luthman]

Do you by chance graph and know what that peak number was?

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On Sep 11, 2017 12:36 PM, "Nick Bright" <nick.bri...@valnet.net> wrote:

> This has happened a few times before when big Tier 1's like Verizon or
> Level 3 make an aggregation or filter mistake. Usually they correct it
> within a few hours.
>
> On 9/8/2017 6:26 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I'm not sure where the 650k max-prefix-limit came from - consultant or I
> thought it was plentiful - but both of my peers just hit 650.6k and 651.2k
> routes which caused all kinds of fun this morning.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
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Re: [WISPA] PSA: BGP broke 650k routes

[Josh Luthman]

Well I have filters in place but I thought someone put it there for a
reason.  Sure doesn't seem to be providing any value but obviously
introduces problems...


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On Fri, Sep 8, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
wrote:

> hmmm not a good ideal on setting up prefix limit on your Full Table IP
> Transit BGP Connections..
> setting prefix limits on your Peering BGP connections is an excellent idea.
> Using ACL Filters to explicitly accept prefixes from your down-stream, and
> what you advertise to your upstream is best practices.
>
>
> Regards.
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
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> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *To: *a...@afmug.com, "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Sent: *Friday, September 8, 2017 7:26:00 AM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] PSA: BGP broke 650k routes
>
> I'm not sure where the 650k max-prefix-limit came from - consultant or I
> thought it was plentiful - but both of my peers just hit 650.6k and 651.2k
> routes which caused all kinds of fun this morning.
>
> Josh Luthman
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[WISPA] PSA: BGP broke 650k routes

[Josh Luthman]

I'm not sure where the 650k max-prefix-limit came from - consultant or I
thought it was plentiful - but both of my peers just hit 650.6k and 651.2k
routes which caused all kinds of fun this morning.

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Re: [WISPA] Ping

[Josh Luthman]

Pong

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On Sep 4, 2017 1:24 PM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Is anyone out there?


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Re: [WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list

[Josh Luthman]

Email adm...@wispa.org

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On Aug 3, 2017 2:29 PM, "Paul Pazzaglini" <pa...@pliinc.us> wrote:

> I did already.!
>
>
> --
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf
> of Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:27 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list
>
> Go to the website and unsubscribe from the list/s you want off.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Aug 3, 2017 2:26 PM, "Paul Pazzaglini" <pa...@pliinc.us> wrote:
>
>> remove me from this list
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on
>> behalf of Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:20 PM
>> *To:* sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list
>>
>> Scott did you find what you needed for these locations?  I have an MSA
>> with Comcast.  We can deliver fiber to many metro areas with SLA.
>>
>> I'd be happy to see what areas we could deliver and at what cost.
>>
>> If you're interested, get me a list of addresses and I'll get my guy on
>> it ASAP.
>>
>> Judd Dare
>> Massive Data Networks LLC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2017 9:29 PM, "Scott Carullo" <sc...@flhsi.com> wrote:
>>
>> OMG - you guys sure wine a lot I'm trying to send you business lol
>>
>> Due to popular demand, and because I don't want to have a price on my
>> head, here is the complete list in one email.
>>
>> I figured it was easier for someone to only read my email if the subject
>> was in their area.  I won't make that mistake again...
>>
>> If you can service these just send me the install fee, MRC and any terms.
>>   Prefer wireless but in the end they need service at these locations so if
>> you can servie the location tell me what you provide need 10Mb service.
>> DOes it have to be dedicated, no but needs static IP and minimum 5Mb up.  I
>> have not decided whether I am managing all these locations for my customer
>> or if I will simply refer them to you.  So assume I'm the customer for now
>> so you have to be sweet to me
>>
>> Thanks  appreciate your time and SORRY for the mass individual emails
>> the other day :)
>>
>> *Location* *Address*
>> ATL - Atlanta
>> 1000 Toffee Terrace
>>  Atlanta, GA 30354
>> ATL-P - Atlanta
>> 1000 Toffee Terrace
>>  Atlanta, GA 30354
>> BOS - Boston
>> 152 Harborside Drive
>>  Building 56
>>  East Boston, MA 02128
>> BUR - Burbank
>> 4209 West Empire Drive
>>  Burbank, CA 91505
>> CLT - Charlotte
>> 4732 West Blvd.
>>  Suite H
>>  Charlotte, NC 28208
>> DCA - Washington,DC
>> 106 Air Cargo Road
>>  Washington, DC 20001
>> DEN - Denver
>> 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway
>>  Denver, CO 80249
>> DFW - Dallas Fort Worth
>> 1910 W. Airfield Drive
>>  Bldg. B Suite 200
>>  DFW Airport, TX 75261
>> DTW - Detriot
>> 31705 East Service Drive
>>  Building 530
>>  Detroit, MI 48242
>> DTW-P - Romulus
>> Detroit Metro Airport
>>  Building 514 Door 14
>>  Romulus, MI 48174
>> EWR - Newark
>> Newark Liberty International Airport
>>  3 Brewster Road
>>  Terminal A, Ramp 18
>>  Gate 30
>>  Newark, NJ 07114
>> HPN - White Plains
>> 240 Airport Road
>>  Hanger  C1, 2nd Floor
>>  White Plains, NY 10604
>> JFK - Jamaica
>> JFK International Airport
>>  Building 151
>>  East Hangar Road Room 283
>>  Jamaica, NY 11431
>> LGA - Flushing
>> Hangar 7 North Drive
>>  Bowery Bay Blvd
>>  Flushing, NY 11371
>> MCI - Kansas City
>> 716 Mexico City Ave.
>>  Kansas City, MO 64154
>> MDW - Chicago
>> 5923 S. Central Ave
>>  Signature Flight Support Bldg.
>>  Chicago, IL 60638
>> MSP - St Paul
>> 4300 Glumack Drive
>>  Terminal 1 - Lindbergh
>>  Suite E-1380
>>  St. Paul, MN 55111
>> MSP-P - Minneapolis
>> Hangar Front Desk
>>  7500 Airline Dr.
>>  Building C
>>  Minneapolis, MN 55450
>> MSY - New Orleans
>&

Re: [WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list

[Josh Luthman]

Go to the website and unsubscribe from the list/s you want off.

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On Aug 3, 2017 2:26 PM, "Paul Pazzaglini" <pa...@pliinc.us> wrote:

> remove me from this list
>
>
> --
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf
> of Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 3, 2017 3:20 PM
> *To:* sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] If you can service any of these hit me off list
>
> Scott did you find what you needed for these locations?  I have an MSA
> with Comcast.  We can deliver fiber to many metro areas with SLA.
>
> I'd be happy to see what areas we could deliver and at what cost.
>
> If you're interested, get me a list of addresses and I'll get my guy on it
> ASAP.
>
> Judd Dare
> Massive Data Networks LLC
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2017 9:29 PM, "Scott Carullo" <sc...@flhsi.com> wrote:
>
> OMG - you guys sure wine a lot I'm trying to send you business lol
>
> Due to popular demand, and because I don't want to have a price on my
> head, here is the complete list in one email.
>
> I figured it was easier for someone to only read my email if the subject
> was in their area.  I won't make that mistake again...
>
> If you can service these just send me the install fee, MRC and any terms.
>   Prefer wireless but in the end they need service at these locations so if
> you can servie the location tell me what you provide need 10Mb service.
> DOes it have to be dedicated, no but needs static IP and minimum 5Mb up.  I
> have not decided whether I am managing all these locations for my customer
> or if I will simply refer them to you.  So assume I'm the customer for now
> so you have to be sweet to me
>
> Thanks  appreciate your time and SORRY for the mass individual emails
> the other day :)
>
> *Location* *Address*
> ATL - Atlanta
> 1000 Toffee Terrace
>  Atlanta, GA 30354
> ATL-P - Atlanta
> 1000 Toffee Terrace
>  Atlanta, GA 30354
> BOS - Boston
> 152 Harborside Drive
>  Building 56
>  East Boston, MA 02128
> BUR - Burbank
> 4209 West Empire Drive
>  Burbank, CA 91505
> CLT - Charlotte
> 4732 West Blvd.
>  Suite H
>  Charlotte, NC 28208
> DCA - Washington,DC
> 106 Air Cargo Road
>  Washington, DC 20001
> DEN - Denver
> 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway
>  Denver, CO 80249
> DFW - Dallas Fort Worth
> 1910 W. Airfield Drive
>  Bldg. B Suite 200
>  DFW Airport, TX 75261
> DTW - Detriot
> 31705 East Service Drive
>  Building 530
>  Detroit, MI 48242
> DTW-P - Romulus
> Detroit Metro Airport
>  Building 514 Door 14
>  Romulus, MI 48174
> EWR - Newark
> Newark Liberty International Airport
>  3 Brewster Road
>  Terminal A, Ramp 18
>  Gate 30
>  Newark, NJ 07114
> HPN - White Plains
> 240 Airport Road
>  Hanger  C1, 2nd Floor
>  White Plains, NY 10604
> JFK - Jamaica
> JFK International Airport
>  Building 151
>  East Hangar Road Room 283
>  Jamaica, NY 11431
> LGA - Flushing
> Hangar 7 North Drive
>  Bowery Bay Blvd
>  Flushing, NY 11371
> MCI - Kansas City
> 716 Mexico City Ave.
>  Kansas City, MO 64154
> MDW - Chicago
> 5923 S. Central Ave
>  Signature Flight Support Bldg.
>  Chicago, IL 60638
> MSP - St Paul
> 4300 Glumack Drive
>  Terminal 1 - Lindbergh
>  Suite E-1380
>  St. Paul, MN 55111
> MSP-P - Minneapolis
> Hangar Front Desk
>  7500 Airline Dr.
>  Building C
>  Minneapolis, MN 55450
> MSY - New Orleans
>  900 Airline Drive
>  Room C102-130 Gate C2
>  Kenner, LA 70062
> NAS - Nassau
> Lynden Pindling Int'l Aiport
>  Windsor Field Road
>  Suite B1-519
>  Nassau, BS
> OMA - Omaha
> 1817 Fort Ct.
>  Omaha, NE 68110
> PHL - Philadelphia
> 10 Tinicum Island Road
>  Cargo City, Building C2 Suite 10
>  Philadelphia, PA 19153
> PHX - Phoenix
> 1301 S 27th Street
>  Bay 6
>  Phoenix, AZ 85034
> RNO - Reno
> 2890 Vassar Street
>  Suite 15A
>  Reno, NV 89502
> RSW - Fort Myers
> 1100 Terminal Access Road
>  Room 1D49
>  Fort Myers, FL 33913
> SLC - Salt Lake City
> 3431 South 500 West
>  Suite C
>  South Salt Lake City, UT 84115
> TTN - Trenton
> 150 Control Tower Road
>  Hanger C5
>  Trenton, NJ 08628
>
> *Scott Carullo*
> Technical Operations
> Florida High Speed Internet
> (321) 205-1100 x102 <(321)%20205-1100>
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[WISPA] News from Athena

[Josh Lynch]

http://mailchi.mp/fdf721b7ad22/united-communications-announces-acquisition-of-athena-broadband?e=%5BUNIQID%5D
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Re: [WISPA] Need 10Mb service Denver, CO

[Josh Luthman]

21 wtf lol

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On Jul 18, 2017 9:39 PM, <d...@trcemail.com> wrote:

> I got 9 so far…
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:37 PM
> *To:* sc...@flhsi.com; WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need 10Mb service Denver, CO
>
>
>
> 6 separate emails dude?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2017 9:36 PM, "Scott Carullo" <sc...@flhsi.com> wrote:
>
> Hit me off list if you can service thanks
>
>
>
> 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway
> Denver, CO 80249
>
>
>
> *Scott Carullo*
>
> Technical Operations
>
> Florida High Speed Internet
>
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>
> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>
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Re: [WISPA] Need 10Mb service Denver, CO

[Josh Luthman]

6 separate emails dude?

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On Jul 18, 2017 9:36 PM, "Scott Carullo" <sc...@flhsi.com> wrote:

> Hit me off list if you can service thanks
>
> 7850 Henry B. Combs Parkway
> Denver, CO 80249
>
> *Scott Carullo*
> Technical Operations
> Florida High Speed Internet
> (321) 205-1100 x102 <(321)%20205-1100>
> <http://twitter.com/flhsi>
>
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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Baicells question

[Josh Luthman]

I think bridging is in beta.  Right now officially it's NAT only.

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On Jul 5, 2017 1:36 AM, "mike.lyon--- via WISP" <w...@wispa.org> wrote:

> When deploying a Baicells eNb and Baicells CPE, is it possible to route a
> subnet to a specific CPE without it getting NAT'd at the CPE or eNb?
>
> Thanks in advance.
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Re: [WISPA] Potential customer in Ohio

[Josh Luthman]

I think there is a WISP in nearby Mt Vernon

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On Jun 26, 2017 5:06 PM, "Zach Mann" <zma...@gmail.com> wrote:

> WARSAW OH 43844
>
> Any WISPs in Warsaw?  Please contact me offlist
>
> Thanks
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[WISPA] Toughbox and epmp force 110/200

[Josh Luthman]

I've got a site where we force a Poe port on to port a 110.  It works for
days or weeks and then the board thinks there's a short (auto power thinks
the same).

Is there a way to disable this safety function?

Has anyone else tried this?  Thinking it may be time to replace it to a 200
and correct the power pinout, but I wasn't sure if that would actually fix
the underlying problem.

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for opinions on a proposal for PTMP in 6Ghz Part 101 spectrum

[Josh Luthman]

I would rather have more unlicensed spectrum.

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On Jun 2, 2017 5:13 PM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

> WISPA has been asked to participate in a wireless industry push to explore
> unlicensed use in the current Part 101 6Ghz spectrum.The idea is to
> increase the current Part 15 allowed power limits and to bring in UNII
> rules, along with additional mitigations currently under study (e.g.,
> sensing, database) to protect incumbents.  As there are no federal users
> (other than PTP) this would not require the ESC system of CBRS and is
> potentially considerably simpler to implement.
>
> The upside is significantly more spectrum availability in a high
> power/capacity/range band.   The downside is some potential loss of
> geographic exclusivity and availability of new 6GHz Part 101 PTP links in
> exchange for greater reliance on the use of spectrum sharing mechanisms
> over time.
>
> I’m interested in opinions on how important 6Ghz PTP links are to the
> membership and for those who use them if there would be significant
> opposition to using the spectrum for Point to Multipoint.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

[Josh Luthman]

B not covered
4 installation of communications equipment

I'm reading it same as Matt...


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On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> Ummm. We are exclusively  excluded. You even highlighted it.
>
> On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians
> for everything and anything that connects to a power source
> Am I reading wrong?
>
>
> NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE
>
> 90.2 Scope.
> (A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical
> conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and communications
> conductors, equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and raceways
> for the following:
> (1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures, mobile
> homes, recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
> (2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
> (3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the supply
> of electricity
> (4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office buildings,
> warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational buildings, that are
> not an integral part of a generating plant, substation, or control center
> *(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:*
> (1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating buildings,
> railway rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive vehicles other than mobile
> homes and recreational vehicles
> Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates that the
> Code does not cover installations in ships, portions of this Code are
> incorporated by reference into Title 46, Code of
> Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
> (2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile surface
> mining machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
> (3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of power used exclusively for
> operation of rolling stock or installations used exclusively for signaling
> and communications purposes
> *(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control
> of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used
> exclusively for such installations*
> (5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric utility where
> such installations
> a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated metering,
> or
> b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for the purpose
> of communications, metering, generation, control, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of electric energy, or
> c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
> d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by or
> recognized by public service commissions, utility commissions, or other
> regulatory agencies having jurisdiction for such installations. These
> written agreements shall be limited to installations for the purpose of
> communications, metering, generation, control, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of electric energy where
> legally established easements or rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These
> installations shall be limited to federal lands, Native American
> reservations through the U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Indian
> Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port authorities and state
> agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
> *Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include
> those entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental
> law or regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install,
> operate, and maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or
> distribution systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,*
> *Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to
> compliance with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as
> adopted under governmental law or regulation.*
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> appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the
> Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications
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Re: [WISPA] LinkNYC

[Josh Reynolds]

We did something similar in KCMO recently:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article64547422.html


- Josh

On Apr 28, 2017 12:47 PM, "Benjamin Huang" <benhuang21...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Gino:
>
> Yes it's part of Google's Sidewalk lab company name Intersection
>
> https://www.intersection.com/
>
> Rumors are, they are working on rolling this out to more cities with
> Dallas and Chicago being the front runner
>
> On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Anyone has info on this project? Specially who is the fiber provider ?
>>
>> Visited NYC last week and was able to see how the project is advancing,
>> saw more than 40+ kiosks, all providing free-no holds barred Wifi, several
>> speedtests I ran were in the 100 Mbps+
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> From: Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> Date: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 10:58 AM
>> To: Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
>> Subject: Dd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino A. Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
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Re: [WISPA] TDWR Interference screenshot

[Josh Luthman]

Any info on it?  I can search my email if there's a unique string.

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On Apr 20, 2017 7:49 PM, "ralph" <ralphli...@bsrg.org> wrote:

> Probably so- At least I know PR had lots of problems a while back.
>
> But I really wanted a screen shot from the LV one, since I can relate the
> entire story in my narrative.  I’ve even located their violation notice.
>
> Somebody’s got to have that photo still.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 20, 2017 6:00 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] TDWR Interference screenshot
>
>
>
> Check the PR station, I'm pretty sure it happens there very regularly.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:51 PM, ralph <ralphli...@bsrg.org> wrote:
>
> Back a few years ago the Las Vegas TDWR was affected by what turned out to
> be a video link or something about 40 miles away. WISPA helped locate the
> interference and for a good while images of the RADAR screen showing the
> interference were floating around.
>
>
>
> I used to Google for it all the time when I needed an example. I can no
> longer locate it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a copy of that image they could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Ralph
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Re: [WISPA] TDWR Interference screenshot

[Josh Luthman]

Check the PR station, I'm pretty sure it happens there very regularly.


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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:51 PM, ralph <ralphli...@bsrg.org> wrote:

> Back a few years ago the Las Vegas TDWR was affected by what turned out to
> be a video link or something about 40 miles away. WISPA helped locate the
> interference and for a good while images of the RADAR screen showing the
> interference were floating around.
>
>
>
> I used to Google for it all the time when I needed an example. I can no
> longer locate it.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have a copy of that image they could send me?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Ralph
>
> Brightlan
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Harness

[Josh Luthman]

If you don't get a DBI exofit you bought the wrong one.

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On Apr 20, 2017 12:57 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Miller, Petzl, DBI.
>
> - Josh
>
> On Apr 20, 2017 11:15 AM, "Kevin Melson" <e...@e1w.com> wrote:
>
>> My tower climber is asking for a new climbing harness. All we've ever had
>> is what came with the company when we bought it in 2010. What brands do you
>> recommend?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Melson
>>
>> Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
>>
>> 1801 S Harper Rd
>>
>> Suite 4A
>>
>> Corinth, MS 38834
>>
>> 662-287-1722 <(662)%20287-1722>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Harness

[Josh Reynolds]

Miller, Petzl, DBI.

- Josh

On Apr 20, 2017 11:15 AM, "Kevin Melson" <e...@e1w.com> wrote:

> My tower climber is asking for a new climbing harness. All we've ever had
> is what came with the company when we bought it in 2010. What brands do you
> recommend?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Kevin Melson
>
> Eagle One Wireless\PC Station
>
> 1801 S Harper Rd
>
> Suite 4A
>
> Corinth, MS 38834
>
> 662-287-1722 <(662)%20287-1722>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for a switch...

[Josh Luthman]

AFAIK your options on ports are 24 and 48.  I don't think they do 36 copper
port switches.  If you need 30 ports in one piece of hardware, it's simply
48 port only.

I think you'd be better off with an SFP port.  SPF is typically a DNS thing.


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On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
wrote:

> Edgeswitch lite especially if you like vlans. Or netonix
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> > On Apr 17, 2017, at 9:47 PM, Blair Davis <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:
> >
> > Looking for a good rack mount unmanaged switch with at least thirty (30)
> > 10/100/1000 ports and at least 1 SPF optical port for 1G.
> >
> > Don't need or want POE or any special features not listed above.
> >
> > Vendors, feel free to email me a link...
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Re: [WISPA] And yet another try...

[Josh Luthman]

Check your delivery logs?

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On Apr 5, 2017 7:31 PM, "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:

I know mine are getting to the list, trying to figure out why none of
them are making it back to me...


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Re: [WISPA] Yet another test

[Josh Luthman]

This worked.

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On Apr 5, 2017 6:33 PM, "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:

> Seems I am getting nothing from any @wispa.org mailing list...
>
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450, 450m, and epmp in 5.X GHz Comparison

[Josh Luthman]

But they'll listen at the same time, too, from CPEs on the other AP.


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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 12:38 PM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 3/21/17 09:31, Marco Coelho wrote:
> > Those using the 450m, are you having to put anything behind the to
> > increase the F/B ratio instead of physical separation?
> >
>
>
> The sectors hearing each other isn't really an issue with GPS sync since
> they will all TX at the same time.
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Re: [WISPA] Cambium 450, 450m, and epmp in 5.X GHz Comparison

[Josh Luthman]

450m if revenue supports it.

Epmp if not.

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On Mar 21, 2017 12:12 PM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anyone want to offer a comparison of the different equipment listed.
> Cost, real throughput, Reliability, Customer Satisfaction,
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Re: [WISPA] VoIP Vendor Recommendation

[Josh Reynolds]

VoIP.ms has been great

On Mar 13, 2017 10:17 AM, "Chris Fabien"  wrote:

> We have been happy with VOIP Innovations. They did have some problems a
> year or two ago with DOS attacks but I think they handled it well and made
> several key network improvements to prevent it happening agian.
>
> On Mar 13, 2017 11:07 AM, "Joey Craig"  wrote:
>
>> Yes, this is a serious problem. Not only is our office down, but also to
>> the residential  and business companies we resale too.
>>
>> We currently use Momentum are they claiming routed issues from their
>> Atlanta switch. Sure, I can understand, but no word since Friday and
>> ongoing since then?
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2017 9:54 AM, "Mike Francis" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Joey,
>>
>> We provide a lot of enterprise and wholesale voip for other carriers and
>> ISPs. In fact we are also the VOIP provider for the WISPA offices. I can
>> connect you with one of our sales engineers if you would like to discuss.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> John Michael Francis II
>> JMF Solutions, Inc
>> Wavefly - Internet Voip Cloud
>> INC 5000 #2593
>> CRN Fast Growth #105
>> 251-517-5069 <(251)%20517-5069>
>> http://jmfsolutions.net
>> http://wavefly.com
>>
>> "People are unreasonable, illogical, and self-centered. Love them anyway.
>> If you do good, people may accuse you of selfish motives. Do good anyway.
>> If you are successful, you may win false friends and true enemies. Succeed
>> anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway.
>> Honesty and transparency make you vulnerable. Be honest and transparent
>> anyway. What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build
>> anyway. People who really want help may attack you if you help them. Help
>> them anyway. Give the world the best you have and you may get hurt. Give
>> the world your best anyway." By: Mother Teresa
>> On 3/13/2017 9:50 AM, Joey Craig wrote:
>>
>> We are having  many problems with our current VoIP vendor and would like
>> any recommendations that anyone would have.
>>
>>
>>
>> Currently, our phone service for in our office is not working and hasn’t
>> since last Friday.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please make any recommendations ASAP. Please use my mobile number listed
>> below with any phone calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Re: [WISPA] Preferred RADIUS Setup

[Josh Luthman]

Isn't that what UserManager is..?


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On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Scott Reed <sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com>
wrote:

> A server at the NOC or in the cloud, 2 for redundancy if needed.
>
> MT doesn't run a RADIUS server on the router, just a client.
>
> On 3/9/2017 3:45 PM, Sam Morris wrote:
>
> A simplified overview of this configuration is a MikroTik CCR at the two
> PoPs (one on each end of a service area, running BGP), and MikroTik 1009
> routers at each tower in the service area.
>
> We're in the process of setting up our first RADIUS installation. For
> those of you who have set this up before, do you prefer to run a
> standalone FreeRadius server at each PoP, or would you run RADIUS on the
> CCR routers at each PoP? (Hopefully this isn't too ambiguous of a
> question...) If load matters, the most data that could be coming into
> the CCRs is less than 1 Gbps - and more-likely to be closer to 300 Mbps
> than 1 Gbps.
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Re: [WISPA] epmp 1000 in noisy environment

[Josh Luthman]

If you're in a noisy area spend the extra bucks to get the uplink
improvements of the epmp 2000.  It'd be a big mistake to not.

I don't believe they do epmp2000 in 120*, so while your point is valid, I
don't think this mistake can be made =)


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On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Chadwick Wachs <c...@auwireless.net> wrote:

> 2000 performs better than 1000. We have both deployed on a noisy tower and
> the 2000 has better performance - but the 1000 is working. Get your antenna
> width as small as possible. A 120 degree sector is not your friend in a
> noisy environment. We are using 60 degree horns and that has really helped
> with the noise as well since the radio can’t hear as much.
>
> On Mar 6, 2017, 10:46 AM -0700, Marco Coelho <coelh...@gmail.com>, wrote:
>
> I was checking to see if anyone has some epmp 1000 experience in noisy
> environments.
> What have your experiences been?
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Re: [WISPA] Lost the ad!

[Josh Luthman]

Forwarded

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On Mar 1, 2017 7:09 AM, "Blair Davis" <the...@wmwisp.net> wrote:

I was looking at an ad from Link Tech on the list here and lost it
About enclosures...

Could somebody who still has it forward it to me?

Thanks


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Re: [WISPA] Legal aid

[Josh Luthman]

For what?  Some telecom stuff needs to be a DC lawyer...

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On Feb 25, 2017 8:18 PM, "Grand Avenue Broadband" <grandav...@grandavebb.com>
wrote:

> When I asked WISPA for a legal referral, they gave me the names of a pair
> of high-powered firms inside the Beltway.  For what I need, this is
> overkill and a bit out of my budget.  Has anyone had good experiences with
> more modest telecom law firms that they would be willing to recommend?
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

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Re: [WISPA] FCC 477 reminder

[Josh Luthman]

Coverage I would

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On Feb 17, 2017 5:39 PM, "William C Bardwell" <cbardwel...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have to file 477 if not currently operating with customers? I'm
> building network but only using personally.
>
> On Feb 17, 2017 1:48 PM, "Jim Patient" <jpati...@linktechs.net> wrote:
>
>> 11 days, 11 hours,  11 minutes, and 11 seconds from now your 477
>> submission is due.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: JimPatientSignatureV2]
>>
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>> www.LinkTechs.net <http://www.linktechs.net/> *| *www.TowerCoverage.com
>> <http://www.towercoverage.com/>
>>
>> [image: usa_flag] *Phone:* 314-735-0270 <(314)%20735-0270>  *FAX*:
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Re: [WISPA] FCC 477 reminder

[Josh Luthman]

You sent that email 11 milliseconds early =/


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> 11 days, 11 hours,  11 minutes, and 11 seconds from now your 477
> submission is due.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??

[Josh Reynolds]

Same thing happens with the content aggregators to feed IPTV headends.

On Feb 14, 2017 5:56 PM, "Sean Heskett"  wrote:

> on our demo account everything has been streaming HD.
>
> the transport can be a deal breaker for sure but if you can meet them in
> chicago (or a lot of other cities) for a layer 2 cross connect you are good
> to go.
>
> by the way, it's the content providers that are requiring the layer 2
> connection instead of a layer 3.  they are trying to prevent leakage of
> their content i guess.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Matt Hoppes  rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> The deal killer so far for us has been needing transport to real choice
>> instead of being able to use the Internet to deliver.
>>
>> Also the quality has not been the greatest in the demos we've seen.
>>
>> On Feb 14, 2017, at 17:41, Brian Young  wrote:
>>
>> Jan, CTI is an acronym for ConVergence Technologies, Inc.  I will have an
>> account manager reach out off list.
>>
>> thank you
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S7 edge.
>>
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Jan-OOLLC 
>> Date: 2/14/17 5:20 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bundle With Dish Network TV??
>>
>> Been trying to make contact with Real Choice, they don't seem to call
>> back.  It's a matter of adding 5-6Mbps to the client?  Is an additional
>> server needed?  Who is CTI?
>>
>> Jan Van Kort
>>
>> Manager: Oregon Online, LLC
>>
>> PO Box 71, Coquille, OR 97423
>>
>> Office: 541-435-0509 <(541)%20435-0509>, Cell: 541-404-7001
>> <(541)%20404-7001>
>>
>> 
>>
>> On 02/14/2017 01:31 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>
>> They just can't stop marketing to your customers.  Once you give them
>> Dish Satellite, they will bundle in other services in the bills and
>> continually blast them with commercials on all the channels they serve,
>> including gift card offers, etc.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:
>>
>>> The price includes support with server plus...so them.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 11:41 AM RickG  wrote:
>>>
 Who supports it, you or them?

 On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:37 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

 Hi William,

 The HD stream on realchoicetv uses about 5-6mbps which is about the
 same as Netflix and Hulu.  We really didn't need to "budget" any more
 bandwidth capacity because our clients are already streaming video.

 As for costs contact CTI they are doing the sales for realchoice and
 they can give you their pricing.

 We figure we'll be able to add at least $25 more/mo net revenue per sub
 to our bottom line.

 -Sean

 On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 4:14 AM William C Bardwell <
 cbardwel...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Sean,

 I have given this some thought for our network. What type of speeds and
 network capacity have to penciled in for your network? What is the cost?

 On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 4:53 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

 Other operators have complained that the harvest your client list and
 advertise heavily to get them to use DSL.  I've personally never sold
 satellite tv so I can't say that is true myself.

 We are about to deploy RealchoiceTV which is Over the top (OTT) live
 streaming TV with local channels.  They are a WISPA member.

 -Sean



 On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 3:34 PM Scott Pope 
 wrote:

 Hello All,

 We have been contacted by Dish Network TV regarding the "Opportunity"
 to bundle with them and their Satellite TV product.  The representative has
 told me that they have partnered with many other WISP's in other areas of
 the country.  I was wondering if any other Operators had any success or
 failure stories to share?  I am cautiously optimistic of the idea.  I am
 just looking for feedback.

 Thank You in Advance!

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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Rooms for Memphis show

[Josh Luthman]

26/night for valet

But there is a church parking lot across the street


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On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Paul McNary <pmcn...@cameron.net> wrote:

> Trina does the Sheraton have free parking?
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul McNary
>
> pmcn...@cameron.net
>
> On 2/13/2017 3:44 PM, Trina Coffey, Director of Operations via WISP wrote:
>
> The room block is currently full.  The Sheraton is also sold out on
> Tuesday night, March 14th.
>
>
>
> I am currently trying to secure an additional block at another hotel close
> by.  If you have not booked your room yet please be patient, I should have
> something later today or tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Please check back to the website for updates.
> http://www.wispa.org/events/WISPAmerica/addl_info/hotel
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
> Trina Coffey
>
> Director of Operations
>
> WISPA
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Re: [WISPA] [Wisp] Rooms for Memphis show

[Josh Luthman]

I booked last week, here I thought I was booking last minute...


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WISP <w...@wispa.org> wrote:

> The room block is currently full.  The Sheraton is also sold out on
> Tuesday night, March 14th.
>
>
>
> I am currently trying to secure an additional block at another hotel close
> by.  If you have not booked your room yet please be patient, I should have
> something later today or tomorrow.
>
>
>
> Please check back to the website for updates.
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>
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Wireless Digest, Vol 61, Issue 2

[Josh Luthman]

Attend Wispamerica and talk to people.

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On Feb 2, 2017 4:13 PM, "Scott Reed" <sc...@sbrconsulting-llc.com> wrote:

> WISPA has at least 7 hardware brand  specific lists.  In addition the
> general lists have folks from many backgrounds and network topological that
> are most willing to answer questions.
>
> There are also several general topic lists such as IPv6, Fiber, TVWS, etc.
>
> Some of the lists are member only.  The best way to find them is to login
> to WISPA.org and then manage your account.  One of the choices is mail
> lists.
>
> Many of the vendor also run a maillist or forum.  Check the vendor sites
> to see how to sign up for them.
>
> If you ask a question here that might have more answers on another list,
> someone will usually refer you to the other list.
>
> On 2/2/2017 2:03 PM, OOLLC-Support wrote:
>
> Is there a users group that post about mixed hardware networks? and what
> would be there name for postings?
>
> I use Ubiquiti and am looking for other hardware that would function
> well with or better than what I have
>
> Jan
>
> On 02/02/2017 07:33 AM, wireless-requ...@wispa.org wrote:
>
> Send Wireless mailing list submissions to
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> than "Re: Contents of Wireless digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Brad Belton)
> 2. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Simon Westlake)
> 3. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net)
> 4. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Bryce Duchcherer)
> 5. Re:  Static IP Pricing (Colton Conor)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2017 09:24:48 -0600
> From: "Brad Belton" <b...@belwave.com> <b...@belwave.com>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
> Message-ID: <17be01d27d68$7d5ec7c0$781c5740$@belwave.com> 
> <17be01d27d68$7d5ec7c0$781c5740$@belwave.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> If they are able to legitimately justify a /26 in IP space then it?s possible 
> you aren?t charging enough for your service.
>
>
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On Behalf Of Tim Way
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 9:14 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>
>
>
> Life in IPv4 is getting more expensive as scarcity increases.
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2017 9:13 AM, "Colton Conor" <colton.co...@gmail.com> 
> <colton.co...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you 
> would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would 
> then cost more than the actual service?
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope <sp...@arbucklecomm.com> 
> <sp...@arbucklecomm.com> wrote:
>
> We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses.  This has been 
> our pricing for 10+ years.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net <t...@byhalia.net> 
> <t...@byhalia.net> wrote:
>
> $5/month/IP
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com> <judd.d...@gmail.com>
>
> Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>
>
>
> Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various fib

Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

[Josh Luthman]

Yup - http://www.ipv4auctions.com


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On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:

> On 2/2/17 7:33 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
> > Let me ask this a different way. If I ran out of IP space today, and had
> > to go buy a /24 for someone how much would that cost on the open market?
>
> Probably $4k for a /24.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

[Josh Luthman]

$500/year for ARIN


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On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Seth,
>
> Looks like you are right based on this http://www.ipv4auctions.
> com/previous_auctions/
>
> So that comes out to $15 per IP, but that's a one-time cost to me right?
> The I assume I have to pay ARIN fees on the block I would buy once
> transferred to me. So on a monthly basis, how do you calculate the cost of
> the IP?
>
> So most of you would pay for the actual cost of the IP within the 1st
> month or two of monthly service to the customer?
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 9:36 AM, Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>
>> On 2/2/17 7:33 AM, Colton Conor wrote:
>> > Let me ask this a different way. If I ran out of IP space today, and had
>> > to go buy a /24 for someone how much would that cost on the open market?
>>
>> Probably $4k for a /24.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing

[Josh Luthman]

If they want a /26 they're paying way more than $600 for service.


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On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> So a /26 has 64 total IPs, but only 62 are useable. So you are saying you
> would charge $5 - $10 per IP times 62 IPs? The cost of their statics would
> then cost more than the actual service?
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 8:44 AM, Scott Pope <sp...@arbucklecomm.com> wrote:
>
>> We charge $8.50 per month/per IP for our Static IP addresses.  This has
>> been our pricing for 10+ years.
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Network and Operations Officer
>> Arbuckle Communications, LLC
>> Office: 580-226-1234 <(580)%20226-1234>
>> Mobile: 580-277-1108 <(580)%20277-1108>
>> sp...@arbucklecomm.com
>> www.arbucklecomm.com
>>
>> *"We Are Built For Business"*
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 7:16 AM, Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net <
>> t...@byhalia.net> wrote:
>>
>>> $5/month/IP
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>>
>>>  Original message 
>>> From: Judd Dare <judd.d...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: 2/1/17 9:28 PM (GMT-05:00)
>>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Static IP Pricing
>>>
>>> Typical cost is around $1-2/IP/Month with various fiber providers.
>>>
>>> I've been planning to charge something like $10-20/IP/Mo for commercial
>>> in order to only sell to people who really need it.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Colton Conor <colton.co...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How much do you charge business customers for static IPs?
>>>>
>>>> Comcast Business class cable internet charges
>>>>  *1 - $14.95/mo.*
>>>> * 5 - $19.95/mo*
>>>> * 13 - $34.95/mo*.
>>>>
>>>> What do fiber providers charge?
>>>>
>>>> I have a potential client that currently has a /27 with his current
>>>> provider, and would like at least a /27 or preferably a /26 from us.
>>>>
>>>> We only have a /21 worth of space from ARIN.
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

[Josh Luthman]

Well if you get a -70 from 3 feet away I think that would make it obvious.


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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Christian Palecek <christ...@cybernet1.com
> wrote:

> Itd be hard to tell if the transmit is damaged on a bench test unless you
> had a reference for comparison.  Same signal on either side?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>
>  Original message 
> From: Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> Date: 1/31/17 10:36 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>
> Expected signals?  Something like -10 if they're a box of paper apart?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So we took the radios down, turn them up on the bench, They link up
>> perfectly..
>>
>> What the heck!
>>
>> Im at loss
>>
>> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Gino Villarini <
>> g...@aeronetpr.com>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:47 AM
>>
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>>
>> Its slotted.  We are doing SISO on this link
>>
>> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Jon Langeler <
>> jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:59 PM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>>
>> Dual pol antennas? Make sure you have the hollow or circular waveguide as
>> opposed to slotted. Not sure..
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>
>> 8.7
>>
>> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Jon Langeler <
>> jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 1:44 PM
>> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>>
>> Firmware version?
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have:
>>
>> Radio 1, Admin UP , Operational UP
>> Radio 2, Admin UP , Operational Down
>>
>> Funny thing is, we used 1 script for alignment ( 5 mhz channel, low
>> modulation), Aligned, got target, changed script to bigger channelŠ
>> kaputt!
>>
>> On 1/29/17, 11:50 AM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Seth
>> Mattinen" <wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of se...@rollernet.us>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>> >On 1/29/17 2:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
>> >> This is what I have
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Platform -> Manager -> Interface Manager
>> >Check for admin up.
>> >
>> >Did you check the stickers to make sure you didn't get shipped two of
>> >the same unit instead of a high/low pair? I don't know if the UI would
>> >let you configure the frequencies backwards, can't say I've tried that
>> >on any of mine.
>> >
>> >~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S

[Josh Luthman]

Expected signals?  Something like -10 if they're a box of paper apart?


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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:

> So we took the radios down, turn them up on the bench, They link up
> perfectly..
>
> What the heck!
>
> Im at loss
>
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Gino Villarini <
> g...@aeronetpr.com>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:47 AM
>
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>
> Its slotted.  We are doing SISO on this link
>
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Jon Langeler <
> jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 10:59 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>
> Dual pol antennas? Make sure you have the hollow or circular waveguide as
> opposed to slotted. Not sure..
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:51 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> 8.7
>
> From: <wireless-boun...@wispa.org> on behalf of Jon Langeler <
> jon-ispli...@michwave.net>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date: Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 1:44 PM
> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Issues turning up Cambium 820S
>
> Firmware version?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
>
> I have:
>
> Radio 1, Admin UP , Operational UP
> Radio 2, Admin UP , Operational Down
>
> Funny thing is, we used 1 script for alignment ( 5 mhz channel, low
> modulation), Aligned, got target, changed script to bigger channelŠ
> kaputt!
>
> On 1/29/17, 11:50 AM, "wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of Seth
> Mattinen" <wireless-boun...@wispa.org on behalf of se...@rollernet.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
> >On 1/29/17 2:38 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:
> >> This is what I have
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >Platform -> Manager -> Interface Manager
> >Check for admin up.
> >
> >Did you check the stickers to make sure you didn't get shipped two of
> >the same unit instead of a high/low pair? I don't know if the UI would
> >let you configure the frequencies backwards, can't say I've tried that
> >on any of mine.
> >
> >~Seth
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Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about

[Josh Reynolds]

Crownception.

On Jan 26, 2017 9:23 PM, "Robert"  wrote:

> Department of redundancy department?
>
> On 1/26/17 6:55 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> > Crown is just the latest in a series of fiber-related acquisitions Crown
> > has done.
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Mike Hammett
> >
> > Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> >  IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> >
> > Midwest Internet Exchange 
> >  linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> twitter.com/mdwestix>
> >
> > The Brothers WISP 
> >  youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> > 
> > *From: *"Faisal Imtiaz" 
> > *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> > *Sent: *Thursday, January 26, 2017 8:40:46 AM
> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
> >
> >
> >
> > Just to add to that
> >
> > a) Take all what Brian said below, and add to it the fact that, in many
> > cities they are very quietly installing Micro-Pops, every few blocks,
> > fiber feed (essentially replacing street light poles with, poles which
> > are light poles and micropops).
> >
> > b) The noise and developments in LTE-U
> >
> > c) The very strange, over-priced acquisition of FPL-Fibernet by Crown
> Castle
> >
> > d) Relatively quite conversion, installation of GPON system on every
> > building that ATT had a Metro Ethernet presence in.
> >
> > e) Hype and noise about Gigabit fiber delivery, installation of fiber
> > based service in select areas, ATT Conversion of their select IFTL
> > neighborhoods to Gigabit fiber..
> >
> > f) The rumblings about Cable Co's moving over the Docsis 3
> >
> > Granted that this is not ubiquitous across the nation.. but I can see
> > the competitive service providers could easily be starved out by the
> > choke hold on being able to deliver/buy/have access to  fat pipe
> > especially in the middle mile.
> >
> > I think in most major metro areas the perceived minimum base level of
> > service offering is going to hit high triple digit numbers in terms of
> > bandwidth i.e. 200meg,300meg,500meg etc... we are already seeing
> > customer expectations  /  perceptions around 100meg.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> > 7266 SW 48 Street
> > Miami, FL 33155
> > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
> >
> > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
> >
> > - Original Message -
> >> From: "Brian Webster" 
> >> To: "WISPA General List" 
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 11:46:38 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
> >
> >> Remember, Verizon bought XO Communications. XO has 24 GHz and 39 GHz
> >> spectrum over most of the country, so now Verizon owns that spectrum.
> They
> >> seem to be taking the same approach Windstream and Google are for last
> > mile
> >> connectivity, but Verizon owns the spectrum. Windstream is leasing
> > spectrum
> >> in these same bands from Straightpath (http://straightpath39.com/) and
> >> Google is looking to build in 70 and 80 GHz with E-Band licenses.  All
> of
> >> the sudden the WISP industry looks good enough for the big boys to do it
> >> too. Cambridge Networks has PTMP radios for these bands already, 600
> > meg per
> >> sector. Hang them on the fiber at the pole and create a very small
> > cell type
> >> system. This will work great for backhaul on their Pico cellular network
> >> expansion for LTE/Cellular as well as a good tool for FTTH and Business
> >> class circuits.
> >>
> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-600
> >>
> >> http://cbnl.com/vectastar-platform-introduction
> >>
> >>
> >> Thank You,
> >> Brian Webster
> >> www.wirelessmapping.com
> >> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Fred Goldstein
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 3:19 PM
> >> To: wireless@wispa.org
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
> >>
> >> On 1/25/2017 11:58 AM, Marco Coelho wrote:
> >>> Some of my friends at Verizon are talking a major shift in their Fiber
> >>> Deployment.
> >>> They have decided Fiber to the Home is non practical.  They have
> >>> adopted a fiber to the pedestal scheme with the last part of the
> >>> connectivity being wireless to the home.  Details on bands used have
> >>> not been provided, but that is apparently their new model. They have
> >>> sold their copper plant in Texas to Frontier as a part of this plan.
> >>> Interesting times.
> >>
> >> 

Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about

[Josh Reynolds]

Verizon is in talks to merge with Charter. Stopping their build out over
the past couple of years probably allowed them to have more cash on hand.

On Jan 26, 2017 8:48 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz"  wrote:

> Think  short distance, few meters to few hundred meters ...
> Think fat pipes..
> Think small CPE mounted out side the house...
>
> Fiber drop to a home might be cheaper under certain specific settings...
> buy mounting outdoor small cpe is going to win in most urban and major
> metro areas.
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Thursday, January 26, 2017 9:40:29 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] What my spies are talking about
>
> I'm a bit at a loss. These are line of sight frequencies. How is this
> easier than running a cheapfiber drop to the customer home?
>
> Isn't most of the cost on FTTH related to getting he fiber to the street
> and on the poles?
>
> On Jan 25, 2017, at 23:49, Clay Stewart  stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>
> Put my money on microcells, all,the rage for cities.
>
> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 11:58 AM Marco Coelho  wrote:
>
>> Some of my friends at Verizon are talking a major shift in their Fiber
>> Deployment.
>> They have decided Fiber to the Home is non practical.  They have adopted
>> a fiber to the pedestal scheme with the last part of the connectivity being
>> wireless to the home.  Details on bands used have not been provided, but
>> that is apparently their new model.  They have sold their copper plant in
>> Texas to Frontier as a part of this plan.   Interesting times.
>>
>> --
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>> POB 875
>> Greenville, TX 75403-0875
>> 903-455-5036 <(903)%20455-5036>
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Re: [WISPA] crimper that crimps ground drain wire

[Josh Luthman]

RFArmor...or Arc or Ubnt


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On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> Use the RFArmor version of toughconnectors and don't solder them.
>
> On Jan 24, 2017 11:24 AM, "Marco Coelho" <coelh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are there any cat5/6/7 crimpers out there that also crimp the drain wire
>> for the shielded cat 5 lines?  It would save us a lot of time soldering the
>> drain wires.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [WISPA] crimper that crimps ground drain wire

[Josh Reynolds]

Use the RFArmor version of toughconnectors and don't solder them.

On Jan 24, 2017 11:24 AM, "Marco Coelho"  wrote:

> Are there any cat5/6/7 crimpers out there that also crimp the drain wire
> for the shielded cat 5 lines?  It would save us a lot of time soldering the
> drain wires.
>
> Thanks
>
> --
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

[Josh Luthman]

Because no SFP bro

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On Jan 18, 2017 3:17 PM, "Clay Stewart" <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> We use UBNT Carrier. We have attached it to 1/8 cable for support. You do
> have to be careful not to tear the outer shield, as otherwise you will have
> water go into the cabinet.
>
> We now do not use cat5 on commercial towers, and have opted to a power
> cable with fiber. Why run 10-12 strands of cat5 when one strand of fiber
> does the job, with ESD?
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:
>
>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Chris Fabien
>> LakeNet LLC
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Best cat5 for a monopole

[Josh Luthman]

You cut off the outer most plastic.  Then it's "normal size" cat5.  I
believe I used regular rj45 from a local supply back then.


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On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com> wrote:

> Tips on what connectors to use? That looks like a very thick cable. Also
> how to hang it at the top?
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 2:31 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>
>> bbdge or bbdg6
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 11:25 AM, Chris Fabien <ch...@lakenetmi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We are doing a deployment on a 90ft steel monopole where our cable will
>>> hang inside the pole. It seems like we should be using a better grade of
>>> cable than the Primus shielded cat5 we usually use for towers where it is
>>> taped to the leg. Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Chris Fabien
>>> LakeNet LLC
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?

[Josh Reynolds]

Unless the customer bought the equipment, there is still a monthly charge
for "rental" of the hotspot.

Something to think about.

On Jan 17, 2017 9:28 AM, "Eric Tykwinski"  wrote:

> Jon,
>
> Verizon, T-Mobile, et al usually charge per MB.
> I could only find Verizon's pricing guide online from a third party.
> http://www.suburbanexpress.com/verizon_m2m_rates.pdf
>
> I've used it for OOB before, and I remember some sort of setup fees as
> well.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Eric Tykwinski
> TrueNet, Inc.
> P: 610-429-8300
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Jon Langeler
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 10:19 AM
> To: wireless@wispa.org
> Subject: [WISPA] Charge for remote thermostat?
>
> Customer wants to have control of their thermostat and heading south for
> 3-6
> months. I'm guessing they want a $5/mo connection. Suggestions on how to
> handle or charge for this?
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
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