Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Justin Wilson]

brightwifi.com

Excellent cloud wifi.


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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Scott Piehn <li...@jcwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
> have a box in our office we maintain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Scott M Piehn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT
> 
> it depends on your budget and on your goal
> 
> there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
> want to pay such a service
> 
> for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution
> 
> there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT
> 
> 
> 
>> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
>> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
>> needs to be replaced
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> -
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>> 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Justin Wilson]

brightwifi.com

Excellent cloud wifi.


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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 8:27 AM, Scott Piehn <li...@jcwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
> have a box in our office we maintain.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Scott M Piehn
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Paolo Di Francesco
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT
> 
> it depends on your budget and on your goal
> 
> there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
> want to pay such a service
> 
> for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution
> 
> there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT
> 
> 
> 
>> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
>> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
>> needs to be replaced
>> 
>> thanks in advance
>> 
>> -
>> Scott M Piehn
>> 
>> 
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> 
> Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale
> 
> Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo
> 
> C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
> Fax : +39-091-8772072
> assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
> web: http://www.level7.it
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Scott Piehn]

Currently we pay $300 for annual maintenance on a custom built system.  We 
have a box in our office we maintain.




-
Scott M Piehn

-Original Message- 
From: Paolo Di Francesco
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:09 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

it depends on your budget and on your goal

there are various around but the main question is how much you think you
want to pay such a service

for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution

there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT



> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for
> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours
> needs to be replaced
>
> thanks in advance
>
> -
> Scott M Piehn
>
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Paolo Di Francesco]

it depends on your budget and on your goal

there are various around but the main question is how much you think you 
want to pay such a service

for small and simple installations radius manager could be a solution

there are also many online "cloud" solutions for MT



> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for 
> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours 
> needs to be replaced
>
> thanks in advance
>
> -
> Scott M Piehn
>
>
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Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Ian Fraser]

Radius Manager 3 or 4

At one time I had a few dozen hotspots on RM3

Ian


On 6/27/2016 9:58 AM, Scott Piehn wrote:
I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for 
MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours 
needs to be replaced


thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Jim Patient]

Have you looked at HSNM?  It actually configures the MT for you.  When you make 
a change in the web interface, it writes a script, sends it to the MT router 
and runs it.  It also integrates with Cisco/Meraki and Rukus. It has third 
party billing for advertising, youtube video integration for the splash pages, 
and social media login.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z48uIP5k1nY

Give me a call if you have questions on it.


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Scott Piehn
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:58 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for MT 
hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours needs to be 
replaced

thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Robert Clark]

I to have been using radius manager
For about 8 years


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Behalf Of Dan Harling
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Scott Piehn <li...@jcwifi.com> wrote:
> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for 
> MT hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours 
> needs to be replaced

We've been using RadiusManager, albeit on a modest scale, for years.

Daniel Harling  <><
Engineering, Cape Ann Communications
183 Main Street, Gloucester, MA  01930
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Dan Harling]

On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 9:58 AM, Scott Piehn  wrote:
> I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for MT
> hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours needs to be
> replaced

We've been using RadiusManager, albeit on a modest scale, for years.

Daniel Harling  <><
Engineering, Cape Ann Communications
183 Main Street, Gloucester, MA  01930
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[WISPA] Hotspot service for MT

[Scott Piehn]

I am looking for recommendations from anyone using a radius server for MT 
hotspot authentication and billing for temporary service.  Ours needs to be 
replaced

thanks in advance

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[ralph]

Julius- from what I heard, they are don’t allow different rates per portal. All 
fees have to be the same, everywhere.

Is that true?   

I have corresponded with them and they seem to only do Email, won’t get on the 
phone, and the communication with them was difficult due to what I perceived as 
a language barrier.

 

 

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Julius Igugu
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 3:31 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

 

Hello,

 

Radius Manager with Mikrotik Hospot should handle multiple portals.

 

Julius Igugu.

 

 

Sent from Samsung tablet


ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org mailto:ralphli...@bsrg.org  wrote:



We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal.

 

Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? 

(I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think 
they used customized portals)

I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let 
me know if you are using it for that.

 

What do you think of them?

Know of any others?

 

 

Ralph

Brightlan.net

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Jerry Richardson]

I used MT with Wireless Orbit. Worked well but had UI limitations and I
still did not have central control of the network.

UniFi now does billing (page 9 on user guide) and the next version will
support limited mass device changes.

On Wednesday, July 17, 2013, Bryce Duchcherer wrote:

  MikroTik with Radius Manager works fairly well.

 You can enable the trial account under the Hotspot in MikroTik and use
 Radius Manager to manage paid users.

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 WWW.NETAGO.CA

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 *On Behalf Of *Chris Fabien
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:59 PM
 *To:* WISPA General List
 *Subject:* [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

 ** **

 I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels of service

 Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day

 Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
 monthly service

 Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
 easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
 is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. 

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
 APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. 

 I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
 made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
 just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
 cost is OK if necessary. 

 So, any suggestions? Thanks!

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Bryce Duchcherer]

MikroTik with Radius Manager works fairly well.
You can enable the trial account under the Hotspot in MikroTik and use Radius 
Manager to manage paid users.

[NETAGO-INTERNET_DNP]
Bryce Duchcherer
bduc...@netago.camailto:bduc...@netago.ca
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Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 7:59 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:
Need to provide two levels of service
Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly 
service
Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be 
easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal is a 
less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.
Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs in 
the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 100-200 
users, maybe 50megs traffic max.
I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open 
source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. Budget is 
ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary.
So, any suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

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Does unifi handle the portal/billing or is it just the wifi ap side of it?
It does seem like a well regarded system.

I found wireless orbit last night, looks like a nice solution for the
radius/billing side of it, coupled with a tik hotspot router.

We do have a vmware box in our NOC that we could use to host unifi
controller or a radius solution. I was trying to avoid that because our
guaranteed income from this project is not much and servers mean
maintenance/upkeep to me.
On Jul 11, 2013 12:42 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:

 I would second recommendations for UniFi APs.  Along with a Mikrotik box
 (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP
 lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to
 headquarters.  That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the
 same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik
 tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller
 lives.  You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP
 code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure.

 UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that
 airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum.

 If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs
 with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment,
 coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud.  This will likely send
 you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and
 I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the
 midst of doing this myself.

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
  wrote:

 Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use
 Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want.
  Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but
 there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it -
 how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in
 those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just
 every aspect is completely customizable.

 If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure
 there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well.  Just
 letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time
 now.  Programming skills required...

 Good luck

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



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 *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software


 I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels of service
 Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
 Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
 monthly service

 Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
 easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
 is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
 APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

 I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
 made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
 just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
 cost is OK if necessary.

 So, any suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Ben West]

UniFi just does AP management, e.g. SSIDs, session length, up/down throttle
speeds.  Integration with a payment processor is done by pointing the APs
to your own hotspot server, which would hand off auth request to the UniFi
controller after authorizing the user and/or collecting payment.

Here's a howto about doing this with Paypal:
http://wiki.ubnt.com/UniFi_and_Paypal_Integration

Indeed there are already complete solutions out there which do handle
payments.  I think UniFi's strength is that it is works reliably for what
it does, and it's provided freely by UBNT.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com wrote:

 Does unifi handle the portal/billing or is it just the wifi ap side of it?
 It does seem like a well regarded system.

 I found wireless orbit last night, looks like a nice solution for the
 radius/billing side of it, coupled with a tik hotspot router.

 We do have a vmware box in our NOC that we could use to host unifi
 controller or a radius solution. I was trying to avoid that because our
 guaranteed income from this project is not much and servers mean
 maintenance/upkeep to me.
 On Jul 11, 2013 12:42 AM, Ben West b...@gowasabi.net wrote:

 I would second recommendations for UniFi APs.  Along with a Mikrotik box
 (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP
 lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to
 headquarters.  That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the
 same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik
 tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller
 lives.  You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP
 code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure.

 UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that
 airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum.

 If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs
 with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment,
 coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud.  This will likely send
 you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and
 I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the
 midst of doing this myself.

 On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo 
 sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use
 Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want.
  Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but
 there is nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it -
 how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in
 those emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just
 every aspect is completely customizable.

 If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure
 there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well.  Just
 letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time
 now.  Programming skills required...

 Good luck

 Scott Carullo
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 855-FLSPEED x102



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 *From*: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
 *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software


 I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels of service
 Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
 Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
 monthly service

 Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
 easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
 is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
 APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

 I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
 made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
 just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
 cost is OK if necessary.

 So, any suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Sam Tetherow]

Just a correction, you do not have to run the UniFi controller on the 
same LAN segment as the APs. Check the UniFi wiki for instructions on 
setting up the controller in Amazon Web Services.  If you are using an 
MT probably the easiest way to do it is make sure that 'unifi' resolves 
to the controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43, instructions again 
found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3) Management


On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote:
I would second recommendations for UniFi APs.  Along with a Mikrotik 
box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to 
manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN 
tunnel back to headquarters.  That is, UniFi requires the java 
controller to sit on the same local network as the APs, so a 
work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to your cloud server 
(or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives. You can also run your 
own hotspot server, and use some example PHP code provided by UBNT to 
integrate into existing infrastructure.


UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with 
that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum.


If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those 
APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease 
assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud.  This 
will likely send you down the the path of building your own system, as 
Scott describes, and I agree about being wary of the scope of such a 
task, from being in the midst of doing this myself.


On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo 
sc...@brevardwireless.com mailto:sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:


Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use
Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios
you want.  Rolling your own system takes a respectable amount of
work and skill but there is nothing like it once done because you
control every aspect of it - how it looks, how it sends emails to
your staff or customers and whats in those emails, how it takes
the money, options for service lengths - just every aspect is
completely customizable.

If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm
sure there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering
as well.  Just letting you know how we do it and it works super
fantastic for a long time now.  Programming skills required...

Good luck

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102




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*Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
*To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
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*Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software


I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

Need to provide two levels of service
Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3
days or monthly service

Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal,
would be easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay
merchant account, paypal is a less desirable option, but we do
have a paypal acct as well.

Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current
wifi APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable
of handling 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable
product and just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware
and some modest monthly cost is OK if necessary.

So, any suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Scott Carullo]

yep, the DHCP option is a life saver

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


From: Sam Tetherow tethe...@shwisp.net
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:58 AM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

Just a correction, you do not have to   run the UniFi controller on the 
same LAN segment as the APs.Check the UniFi wiki for instructions 
on setting up the controller   in Amazon Web Services.  If you are 
using an MT probably the   easiest way to do it is make sure that 
'unifi' resolves to the   controller address via DNS or DHCP option 43, 
instructions again   found in the UniFi FAQ under L3 (Layer 3) 
Management

  On 07/10/2013 11:41 PM, Ben West wrote:
 I would second recommendations for UniFi APs.  Along   with a 
Mikrotik box (I personally like the $60 RB750GL for small   
deployments) to manage DHCP lease assignment, do hotspot stuff,   and 
manage the VPN tunnel back to headquarters.  That is, UniFi   requires 
the java controller to sit on the same local network as   the APs, so a 
work-around is to have the Mikrotik tunnel a VPN to   your cloud server 
(or whatever) where the UniFi controller lives.You can also run 
your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP   code provided by 
UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure.

  UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them   
with that airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support   forum.

  If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing   
those APs with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot   and 
lease assignment, coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in   the 
cloud.  This will likely send you down the the path of   building your 
own system, as Scott describes, and I agree about   being wary of the 
scope of such a task, from being in the midst of   doing this myself.

  On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo 
sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote:
   Make your own web pages to collect money 
however you see fit, use Mikrotik hotspot to handle the magic 
stuff, use whatever radios you want.  Rolling your own system 
takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is 
nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of 
it - how it looks, how it sends emails to your staff or 
customers and whats in those emails, how it takes the money, 
options for service lengths - just every aspect is completely   
  customizable.
 If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to  
 accomplish, I'm sure there are lots of other good  
 suggestions people are offering as well.  Just letting you   
know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long   
time now.  Programming skills required... 
 Good luck

  Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


 From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software   


I need suggestion for a hotspot system for  
 a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels 
of service
 Basic Free Service - lower 
speed, limited MB per   day
 Paid Service - faster speed, 
unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or monthly 
service

 Paid service can be purchased via 
credit card in online portal, would be easiest if it 
could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, 
paypal is a less desirable option, but we do have a 
paypal acct as well. 

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this 
year we will connect to current wifi APs in the park, 
probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 
100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. 

  I would prefer an 
all in one box type system over a home 
made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven 
reliable product and just work. Budget

[WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Chris Fabien]

I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

Need to provide two levels of service
Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
monthly service

Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.

Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs
in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open
source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work.
Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK
if necessary.

So, any suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Sean Heskett]

UBNT unifi

You'll have to replace the APs with unifi APs but they are cheep enough to
stay within your budget.

It has all the features you listed and then some.

Sean

On Wednesday, July 10, 2013, Chris Fabien wrote:

 I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels of service
 Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
 Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
 monthly service

 Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
 easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
 is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
 APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

 I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
 made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
 just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
 cost is OK if necessary.

 So, any suggestions? Thanks!

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[Scott Carullo]

Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik 
hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want.  Rolling 
your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is 
nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it 
looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those 
emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every 
aspect is completely customizable.
If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure 
there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well.  Just 
letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time 
now.  Programming skills required...
Good luck

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


From: Chris Fabien ch...@lakenetmi.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

Need to provide two levels of service
Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or 
monthly service

Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be 
easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal 
is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well. 

Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi APs 
in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling 
100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max. 

I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home made/server/open 
source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and just work. 
Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly cost is OK 
if necessary. 

So, any suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software

[Ben West]

I would second recommendations for UniFi APs.  Along with a Mikrotik box (I
personally like the $60 RB750GL for small deployments) to manage DHCP lease
assignment, do hotspot stuff, and manage the VPN tunnel back to
headquarters.  That is, UniFi requires the java controller to sit on the
same local network as the APs, so a work-around is to have the Mikrotik
tunnel a VPN to your cloud server (or whatever) where the UniFi controller
lives.  You can also run your own hotspot server, and use some example PHP
code provided by UBNT to integrate into existing infrastructure.

UniFi runs just fine on $80 Picostation M2's, if you flash them with that
airos2unifi.bin binary floating around UBNT support forum.

If it's critical to support 'any' APs, maybe look into flashing those APs
with OpenWRT, and then use a Mikrotik for the hotspot and lease assignment,
coupled with a RADIUS server somewhere in the cloud.  This will likely send
you down the the path of building your own system, as Scott describes, and
I agree about being wary of the scope of such a task, from being in the
midst of doing this myself.

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Scott Carullo
sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:

 Make your own web pages to collect money however you see fit, use Mikrotik
 hotspot to handle the magic stuff, use whatever radios you want.  Rolling
 your own system takes a respectable amount of work and skill but there is
 nothing like it once done because you control every aspect of it - how it
 looks, how it sends emails to your staff or customers and whats in those
 emails, how it takes the money, options for service lengths - just every
 aspect is completely customizable.

 If thats beyond the scope of what you are able to accomplish, I'm sure
 there are lots of other good suggestions people are offering as well.  Just
 letting you know how we do it and it works super fantastic for a long time
 now.  Programming skills required...

 Good luck

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



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 *Sent*: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:59 PM
 *To*: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 *Subject*: [WISPA] Hotspot Router/Software


 I need suggestion for a hotspot system for a campground. Requirements:

 Need to provide two levels of service
 Basic Free Service - lower speed, limited MB per day
 Paid Service - faster speed, unlimited use, billed as daily, 3 days or
 monthly service

 Paid service can be purchased via credit card in online portal, would be
 easiest if it could collect payment to our Propay merchant account, paypal
 is a less desirable option, but we do have a paypal acct as well.

 Compatible with any wifi APs, this year we will connect to current wifi
 APs in the park, probably overhaul that next season. Capable of handling
 100-200 users, maybe 50megs traffic max.

 I would prefer an all in one box type system over a home
 made/server/open source solution. Needs to be proven reliable product and
 just work. Budget is ideally 200-300 for hardware and some modest monthly
 cost is OK if necessary.

 So, any suggestions? Thanks!


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[Julius Igugu]

Hello,

Radius Manager with Mikrotik Hospot should handle multiple portals.

Julius Igugu.


Sent from Samsung tabletralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote:We have multiple 
hotspots, each with a customized portal.

 

Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells?

(I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t think 
they used customized portals)

I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please let 
me know if you are using it for that.

 

What do you think of them?

Know of any others?

 

 

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[Paolo Di Francesco]

Hi Ralph

regarding the DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager, it works with just one tariff 
profile.
If you have multiple hotspots or things like that, it's not very flexible.

Also take into account that a customized portal, it's not difficult to 
achieve if you store the portal (the code) on the mikrotik. But 
obviously the plan management would be complex if all those portals have 
different plan (or you have to reverse the revenues on somebody)

Therefore if it's just different portals all with the same tarif plan, 
you can use that product just simply customizing the hotspot html code 
on the mikrotik, but you would have the code spread all over the routers 
which does not sound a good idea

Paolo


 We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal.

 Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

 How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells?

 (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don’t
 think they used customized portals)

 I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but
 please let me know if you are using it for that.

 What do you think of them?

 Know of any others?

 Ralph

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[ralph]

Thanks for that info, Paolo.
One rate plan would never work for us, that is for sure.
And DMA's support seems like it may all be only via Email, and probably from
a time zone well ahead of ours.

Wireless Orbit informed me yesterday that their Version 3 system is almost
ready for release. It has a lot of what we wanted added, so we may wait for
that. 

Ralph
Brightlan

-Original Message-
From: Paolo Di Francesco 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 6:06 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

Hi Ralph

regarding the DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager, it works with just one tariff
profile.
If you have multiple hotspots or things like that, it's not very flexible.

Also take into account that a customized portal, it's not difficult to
achieve if you store the portal (the code) on the mikrotik. But obviously
the plan management would be complex if all those portals have different
plan (or you have to reverse the revenues on somebody)

Therefore if it's just different portals all with the same tarif plan, you
can use that product just simply customizing the hotspot html code on the
mikrotik, but you would have the code spread all over the routers which does
not sound a good idea

Paolo


 We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal.

 Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

 How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells?

 (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I 
 don't think they used customized portals)

 I don't think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but 
 please let me know if you are using it for that.

 What do you think of them?

 Know of any others?

 Ralph

 Brightlan.net


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Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale

Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo

C.F. e P.IVA  05940050825
Fax : +39-091-8772072
assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[ralph]

Thanks for the great comparison, Butch.
You and I talked a couple of years ago about Gatespot.

I did some searching and actually ran across some Gatespot systems in use.  I 
then spoke to the operators of them.
None of them seemed to use it heavily and not really for the type of use we 
have, and to be quite honest, the screens I saw were pretty unimpressive.
Mostly just a blank page with some fill-in blocks in an odd looking font- very 
similar to the Gatespot demo pages.  I don't say that ours (which are a 
template from Wireless Orbit) are works of art, but they aren't bad and they 
are easy to customize ourselves. 

I don't doubt that is can be very customizable and heard lots of great comments 
about Eje and his support and eagerness to help, but also I heard that most 
customization HAD to be done by him.  Maybe that user just didn't want to do 
the php code?  That's OK, as long as Eje's available, but it sort of locks us 
into a corner- especially if we have a need that is more immediate than he can 
support.

I would love to see a Gatespot application where the owner has done some 
customization and has really nice looking screens for the customer side.
Butch, if you can help us find a user who has really got a good example of 
Gatespot in use, please help us make contact.

For those systems who actually put the login templates on the Mikrotik instead 
of redirecting like Wireless Orbit does, I saw some very nice ones on the MT 
forum. Of course no one helps out by sharing their code.  We have one location 
where we provide a public free access 35 AP Tropos Muni-Mesh run by a Mikrotik 
hotspot. It uses the Mikrotik trial login feature with some code change to 
hide the signup part and just require a click acceptance of terms and 
conditions.  I wrote the initial page and embedded the MT secret sauce and 
then gave it to the customer's web designer. They then applied the 
organization's look and feel and the thing came out looking   darn nice! They 
even made a mobile version for phones.  It is a great success.  Incidentally, 
it uses Mikrotik's  cookies to allow the users to revisit with their devices 
up to 30 days later and use the system without having to even see the splash 
page.  Perfect for Cellular data offload for these folks.  At the moment there 
are 2715 cookies issued.

Thanks,

Ralph
Brightlan


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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Butch Evans
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, ralph wrote:
 Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

I have a few customers using that software.  It's decent, but it is a bear to 
install and set up unless you use the precise versions he recommends.  Last 
time I looked, it was an older version of Freeradius, but I seem to recall that 
he has updated to use FreeRadius 2.x.

 How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? 

This is actually software written by Eje of Wisp-Router.  It is by far the most 
flexible system I've ever seen.

 (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I 
 don’t think they used customized portals)

It is up to you how you create the portal.  It's just some php code embedded in 
your web page. It's very flexible.

 I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but 
 please let me know if you are using it for that.

User Manager only allows one web page/portal per installation.

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[WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[ralph]

We have multiple hotspots, each with a customized portal.

 

Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? 

(I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I don't
think they used customized portals)

I don't think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but please
let me know if you are using it for that.

 

What do you think of them?

Know of any others?

 

 

Ralph

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot/Billing/AAA options?

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 20:07 -0400, ralph wrote:
 Anyone using DMA Softlabs RADIUS Manager for their hotspots?

I have a few customers using that software.  It's decent, but it is a
bear to install and set up unless you use the precise versions he
recommends.  Last time I looked, it was an older version of Freeradius,
but I seem to recall that he has updated to use FreeRadius 2.x.

 How about the Gatespot system that Butch sells? 

This is actually software written by Eje of Wisp-Router.  It is by far
the most flexible system I've ever seen.

 (I spoke on the phone to a couple of Gatespot users already but I
 don’t think they used customized portals)

It is up to you how you create the portal.  It's just some php code
embedded in your web page. It's very flexible.

 I don’t think Mikrotik User Manager even does multiple portals, but
 please let me know if you are using it for that.

User Manager only allows one web page/portal per installation.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing management solution

[LTI - Dennis Burgess]

we have ticket printer, that works with MT that you simply hit a button,
like 1 hour, 2 hours, it communcates with user manager and then prints a
username/password :)

On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 I would do Mikrotik and Wireless Orbit.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Nov 3, 2012 9:42 AM, Brian Matthews brian_wi...@splashin.net wrote:

 On 11/3/2012 7:17 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
  I am working with a client who will be offering paid hotspot and PC
  workstation rental in a retail setting. I am looking for a billing and
  management solution to offer them.
 
  Some features they want:
  Counter sale to buy X minutes/hours in one setting, shut off when time
 is up
  Account based, we bill you for what you use (automatically to credit
  card, or deduct from account balance)
  Web filtering on per-user basis (restricted access for kids, less
  restricted for adults)
  Work station - charge for printing per page
  Work station - automatically reset to default configuration when
  session ends, if desired
  Work station - allow user to keep an existing user profile, save their
  documents, installed programs etc.
 
  I really have no idea what's available in this market - just starting
  to research it. Their budget is under $1000, they would be happier
  under $500. A per-seat license would be okay, this will be a fairly
  small installation.
 
  Thanks for your suggestions!
 
  Chris Fabien
  LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing management solution

[Josh Bowsher]

Is that only available for use with user manager? I would be interested in that 
but we don't use the user manager.

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Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
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Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing  management solution

we have ticket printer, that works with MT that you simply hit a button, like 1 
hour, 2 hours, it communcates with user manager and then prints a 
username/password :)
On Sat, Nov 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman 
j...@imaginenetworksllc.commailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:

I would do Mikrotik and Wireless Orbit.

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Office: 937-552-2340tel:937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343tel:937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Nov 3, 2012 9:42 AM, Brian Matthews 
brian_wi...@splashin.netmailto:brian_wi...@splashin.net wrote:
On 11/3/2012 7:17 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 I am working with a client who will be offering paid hotspot and PC
 workstation rental in a retail setting. I am looking for a billing and
 management solution to offer them.

 Some features they want:
 Counter sale to buy X minutes/hours in one setting, shut off when time is up
 Account based, we bill you for what you use (automatically to credit
 card, or deduct from account balance)
 Web filtering on per-user basis (restricted access for kids, less
 restricted for adults)
 Work station - charge for printing per page
 Work station - automatically reset to default configuration when
 session ends, if desired
 Work station - allow user to keep an existing user profile, save their
 documents, installed programs etc.

 I really have no idea what's available in this market - just starting
 to research it. Their budget is under $1000, they would be happier
 under $500. A per-seat license would be okay, this will be a fairly
 small installation.

 Thanks for your suggestions!

 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing management solution

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On Tue, 2012-11-06 at 08:25 -0600, Josh Bowsher wrote:
 Is that only available for use with user manager? I would be
 interested in that but we don’t use the user manager.

I'm not sure what printer they use, but this type of printer is not that
uncommon.  

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing management solution

[Brian Matthews]

On 11/3/2012 7:17 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
 I am working with a client who will be offering paid hotspot and PC
 workstation rental in a retail setting. I am looking for a billing and
 management solution to offer them.

 Some features they want:
 Counter sale to buy X minutes/hours in one setting, shut off when time is up
 Account based, we bill you for what you use (automatically to credit
 card, or deduct from account balance)
 Web filtering on per-user basis (restricted access for kids, less
 restricted for adults)
 Work station - charge for printing per page
 Work station - automatically reset to default configuration when
 session ends, if desired
 Work station - allow user to keep an existing user profile, save their
 documents, installed programs etc.

 I really have no idea what's available in this market - just starting
 to research it. Their budget is under $1000, they would be happier
 under $500. A per-seat license would be okay, this will be a fairly
 small installation.

 Thanks for your suggestions!

 Chris Fabien
 LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot / Internet Cafe billing management solution

[Josh Luthman]

I would do Mikrotik and Wireless Orbit.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 3, 2012 9:42 AM, Brian Matthews brian_wi...@splashin.net wrote:

 On 11/3/2012 7:17 AM, Chris Fabien wrote:
  I am working with a client who will be offering paid hotspot and PC
  workstation rental in a retail setting. I am looking for a billing and
  management solution to offer them.
 
  Some features they want:
  Counter sale to buy X minutes/hours in one setting, shut off when time
 is up
  Account based, we bill you for what you use (automatically to credit
  card, or deduct from account balance)
  Web filtering on per-user basis (restricted access for kids, less
  restricted for adults)
  Work station - charge for printing per page
  Work station - automatically reset to default configuration when
  session ends, if desired
  Work station - allow user to keep an existing user profile, save their
  documents, installed programs etc.
 
  I really have no idea what's available in this market - just starting
  to research it. Their budget is under $1000, they would be happier
  under $500. A per-seat license would be okay, this will be a fairly
  small installation.
 
  Thanks for your suggestions!
 
  Chris Fabien
  LakeNet LLC
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[WISPA] Hotspot Setup

[Carl Shivers]

I'm attempting to set up my second hostpot and I'm finding I'm a bit rusty.
I went through the hotspot setup, but after I finished, upon checking my
files area, I am not seeing the hotspot directory. What am I missing on
getting the files to populate into the files area?

 


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Setup

[Josh Luthman]

I think it's /ip hotspot reset-html

Also a big button on the first tab of the hotspot window.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.netwrote:

 I’m attempting to set up my second hostpot and I’m finding I’m a bit
 rusty. I went through the hotspot setup, but after I finished, upon
 checking my files area, I am not seeing the hotspot directory. What am I
 missing on getting the files to populate into the files area?

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Setup

[Carl Shivers]

Thanks. The reset did it. 

 

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Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 2:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Setup

 

I think it's /ip hotspot reset-html

 

Also a big button on the first tab of the hotspot window.


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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Carl Shivers cshiv...@aristotle.net
wrote:

I'm attempting to set up my second hostpot and I'm finding I'm a bit rusty.
I went through the hotspot setup, but after I finished, upon checking my
files area, I am not seeing the hotspot directory. What am I missing on
getting the files to populate into the files area?

 


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[RickG]

Thats exactly what I told them!

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 That begs the question - why update the firmware on those things?
 Keep it in service for now.  Replace it with Mikrotik as I'm sure
 that's cheaper then Valuepoint.

 I remember hearing they're well over 500 bucks!!!

 On 2/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting enough, I got a firmware upgrade on my last router well
 after it was out of warranty. But I'm looking for those that dont
 charge. Maybe I'm just stupid but spending additional money on
 electronics after the initial purchase is too expensive due to how
 quickly it becomes obsolete. You may as well purchase a new box.
 -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Cisco charges for software.

 I'm guessing Juniper may.

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 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree and will probably replace the valuepoints with mikrotik
 eventually. I did the the reboot issue with the NC1000s so I stuck to
 WC3000's which have worked flawlessly. I just find it hard to believe
 that paying for firmware upgrades is customary. So, I'm looking for
 examples where it is not.
 Thanks! -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to
  3.x
 I
  think.  Maybe 4.x
 
  I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
  NC1000s
 
  Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a
 monthly
  cost, so probably not.
 
  Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue
  that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
  few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
  available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
  their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
  customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
  true for hotspot controllers?
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[WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[RickG]

I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
true for hotspot controllers?
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[Josh Luthman]

Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to 3.x I
think.  Maybe 4.x

I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
NC1000s

Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a monthly
cost, so probably not.

Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
 few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
 available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
 their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
 customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[RickG]

I agree and will probably replace the valuepoints with mikrotik
eventually. I did the the reboot issue with the NC1000s so I stuck to
WC3000's which have worked flawlessly. I just find it hard to believe
that paying for firmware upgrades is customary. So, I'm looking for
examples where it is not.
Thanks! -RickG

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to 3.x I
 think.  Maybe 4.x

 I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
 NC1000s

 Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a monthly
 cost, so probably not.

 Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
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 Troy, OH 45373

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 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
 few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
 available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
 their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[Josh Luthman]

Cisco charges for software.

I'm guessing Juniper may.

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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree and will probably replace the valuepoints with mikrotik
 eventually. I did the the reboot issue with the NC1000s so I stuck to
 WC3000's which have worked flawlessly. I just find it hard to believe
 that paying for firmware upgrades is customary. So, I'm looking for
 examples where it is not.
 Thanks! -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to 3.x
 I
  think.  Maybe 4.x
 
  I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
  NC1000s
 
  Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a
 monthly
  cost, so probably not.
 
  Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue
  that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
  few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
  available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
  their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
  customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
  true for hotspot controllers?
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[RickG]

Interesting enough, I got a firmware upgrade on my last router well
after it was out of warranty. But I'm looking for those that dont
charge. Maybe I'm just stupid but spending additional money on
electronics after the initial purchase is too expensive due to how
quickly it becomes obsolete. You may as well purchase a new box.
-RickG

On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Josh Luthman
j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Cisco charges for software.

 I'm guessing Juniper may.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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 that counts.”
 --- Winston Churchill


 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree and will probably replace the valuepoints with mikrotik
 eventually. I did the the reboot issue with the NC1000s so I stuck to
 WC3000's which have worked flawlessly. I just find it hard to believe
 that paying for firmware upgrades is customary. So, I'm looking for
 examples where it is not.
 Thanks! -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to 3.x
 I
  think.  Maybe 4.x
 
  I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
  NC1000s
 
  Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a
 monthly
  cost, so probably not.
 
  Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
 continue
  that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
  few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
  available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
  their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
  customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
  true for hotspot controllers?
  -RickG
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot firmware upgrades

[Josh Luthman]

That begs the question - why update the firmware on those things?
Keep it in service for now.  Replace it with Mikrotik as I'm sure
that's cheaper then Valuepoint.

I remember hearing they're well over 500 bucks!!!

On 2/12/10, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Interesting enough, I got a firmware upgrade on my last router well
 after it was out of warranty. But I'm looking for those that dont
 charge. Maybe I'm just stupid but spending additional money on
 electronics after the initial purchase is too expensive due to how
 quickly it becomes obsolete. You may as well purchase a new box.
 -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:46 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
 Cisco charges for software.

 I'm guessing Juniper may.

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 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:43 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree and will probably replace the valuepoints with mikrotik
 eventually. I did the the reboot issue with the NC1000s so I stuck to
 WC3000's which have worked flawlessly. I just find it hard to believe
 that paying for firmware upgrades is customary. So, I'm looking for
 examples where it is not.
 Thanks! -RickG

 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Josh Luthman
 j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
  Mikrotik doesn't really.  Anything I've started at 2.8.x can go up to
  3.x
 I
  think.  Maybe 4.x
 
  I quit using Valuepoint because they needed rebooted.  I had a bunch of
  NC1000s
 
  Silver Living (introduced long ago and again at AF this year) has a
 monthly
  cost, so probably not.
 
  Never had to research beyond Mikrotik as it works beautifully.
 
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  Direct: 937-552-2343
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  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
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 continue
  that counts.”
  --- Winston Churchill
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 11:11 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've got a few hotspots that use Valuepoint controllers. They are a
  few years old so I thought I'd check on a firmware upgrade if
  available. Valuepoint told me I must pay for firmware upgrades for
  their devices if I want them. I balked but they say that this is
  customary for professional grade equipment. My question is, is this
  true for hotspot controllers?
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Re: [WISPA] HotSpot

[Mike Hammett]

I'd contact one of the Mikrotik vendor members.


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From: Jory Privett j...@wccs.net
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:04 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] HotSpot

 I am needing to upgrade a HotSpot that has grown out of hand.  I need a 
 solution  that will do both username/password and MAC based 
 authentication.  It needs to handle queuing without degradation to VoIP 
 services.   And finally I would love a unit that I can cluster to increase 
 redundancy.  I need a something that is capable of 4000+ simultaneous 
 users passing over 200mb.  Any thoughts or suggestions  would be greatly 
 appreciated.

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Re: [WISPA] HotSpot

[Mike Hammett]

I'm over a week late, but I'd imagine it's just the box(es) doing the 
hotspot services, not the access services.


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From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 3:14 PM
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] HotSpot

 Jory,

 That makes no sense at all.  No one AP can handle 4000+ users passing over
 200Mb of traffic... did you mean the controller has to be able to support
 that?

 So first question... how many AP's?  Outdoor or indoor?  All in one 
 location
 or spread out over multiple locations.

 What do you mean by cluster  Do you mean having multiple AP's in an area
 so that if one fails the others can pick up the slack so to speak?

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jory Privett
 Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 2:04 PM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] HotSpot

 I am needing to upgrade a HotSpot that has grown out of hand.  I need a
 solution  that will do both username/password and MAC based 
 authentication.
 It needs to handle queuing without degradation to VoIP services.   And
 finally I would love a unit that I can cluster to increase redundancy.  I
 need a something that is capable of 4000+ simultaneous users passing over
 200mb.  Any thoughts or suggestions  would be greatly appreciated.

 Jory Privett
 Partnership Broadband


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] HotSpot

[ccrum]

How are you queing? Simple queues, Trees, PCQ? Are you prioritizing VOIP
traffic? Is this your main network or the Red Moon stuff?

Cameron


 No it cant.  This is what we are currently using  and  although  it can do
 the HotSpot and queuing  it makes VoIP connections very unstable  and does
 not provide any redundancy/failover.  If someone ahs a better way of doing
 it with MikroTik  then please let me know but currently  it cant handle
 the load.

 Jory

 - Original Message -
 From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, November 06, 2009 5:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] HotSpot


A P4 machine running MikroTik can do that easily.

 On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jory Privett j...@wccs.net wrote:

 I am needing to upgrade a HotSpot that has grown out of hand.  I need a
 solution  that will do both username/password and MAC based
 authentication.
  It needs to handle queuing without degradation to VoIP services.   And
 finally I would love a unit that I can cluster to increase redundancy.
 I
 need a something that is capable of 4000+ simultaneous users passing
 over
 200mb.  Any thoughts or suggestions  would be greatly appreciated.

 Jory Privett
 Partnership Broadband



 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Scott Carullo]

I like the NS2loco suggestion...   anyone have a handy little desk mount 
for the radio?  Something with a little weight on bottom and small pipe to 
tie wrap radio to then on desk they can aim it in the direction it works 
best.

Scott Carullo
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321-205-1100 x102




From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:07 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly up...
these things were on the street cheap brand new.

So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

You referring to this?
http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med

ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

Looks like it's well under $100. 

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

Tessco should have good pricing on them.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on 

the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we 

don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less 
then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up 
then most laptops with built in wireless.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Josh Luthman]

If you find them let me know...I have been keeping an eye out myself.

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On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:


 I like the NS2loco suggestion...   anyone have a handy little desk mount
 for the radio?  Something with a little weight on bottom and small pipe to
 tie wrap radio to then on desk they can aim it in the direction it works
 best.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly up...
 these things were on the street cheap brand new.

 So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 You referring to this?

 http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med

 ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

 Looks like it's well under $100.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
 be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

 Tessco should have good pricing on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Olsen
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on

 the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we

 don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
 We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
 then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
 then most laptops with built in wireless.

 Nick Olsen
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106


 

 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[3-dB Networks]

I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly up...
these things were on the street cheap brand new.

So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jason Hensley
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

You referring to this?
http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med
ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

Looks like it's well under $100. 


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

Tessco should have good pricing on them.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on 
the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we 
don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less 
then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up 
then most laptops with built in wireless.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Jason Hensley]

You referring to this?
http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med
ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

Looks like it's well under $100. 


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

Tessco should have good pricing on them.

Daniel White
3-dB Networks
http://www.3dbnetworks.com


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on 
the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we 
don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less 
then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up 
then most laptops with built in wireless.

Nick Olsen
Brevard Wireless
(321) 205-1100 x106




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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Tom DeReggi]

On a side note... Titan stocked these for a while, and then discontinued 
them, I think because they got the newer brand of Dual Pol that supported 
simultaneous use of both Pols.
But I was told by Titan that they would likely order more for someone, if 
they needed them custom ordered.

These weren't good for field maintenance, because like trangos had like 12 
or so small screws to remove, and internal elements, to get to teh radios 
boards. But they are great for the purpose to replicate a trango model, 
where a fix is typically a complete radio replacement.  These cases fit a MT 
433AH with 2 mPCIs radios perfectly. We'd put the primary radio with both 
antenna connectors to each of the polarities.  Then the Second radio we'd 
buy one of the mikrotik radios with a SINGLE antenna port. To that we'd plug 
a pigtail with a bulkhead Nconnetor connected to the case that we drilled. 
These made great Relay radio cases.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client


 If you find them let me know...I have been keeping an eye out myself.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Carullo 
 sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:


 I like the NS2loco suggestion...   anyone have a handy little desk mount
 for the radio?  Something with a little weight on bottom and small pipe 
 to
 tie wrap radio to then on desk they can aim it in the direction it works
 best.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly 
 up...
 these things were on the street cheap brand new.

 So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 You referring to this?

 http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med

 ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

 Looks like it's well under $100.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They 
 will
 be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

 Tessco should have good pricing on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Olsen
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right 
 on

 the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but 
 we

 don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
 We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
 then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
 then most laptops with built in wireless.

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 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106


 

 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Blair Davis]

just use the mounting kit from UBNT.  the suction cup works great on desks.

Scott Carullo wrote:
 I like the NS2loco suggestion...   anyone have a handy little desk mount 
 for the radio?  Something with a little weight on bottom and small pipe to 
 tie wrap radio to then on desk they can aim it in the direction it works 
 best.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly up...
 these things were on the street cheap brand new.

 So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 You referring to this?
 http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med

 ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

 Looks like it's well under $100. 

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
 be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

 Tessco should have good pricing on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Olsen
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on 

 the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we 

 don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
 We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less 
 then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up 
 then most laptops with built in wireless.

 Nick Olsen
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106

 

 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Mike]

Nick,  Don't even stake a portion of your business on USB clients. 
Too many issues make them unreliable in my opinion.


At 12:18 PM 11/5/2009, you wrote:
So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on
the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we
don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
then most laptops with built in wireless.

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Brevard
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Nick Olsen]

Yeah, I think we settled on the loco2's for this purpose.

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From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:32 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com n...@brevardwireless.com, WISPA General 
List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

Nick,  Don't even stake a portion of your business on USB clients. 
Too many issues make them unreliable in my opinion.

At 12:18 PM 11/5/2009, you wrote:
So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right 
on
the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but 
we
don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
then most laptops with built in wireless.

Nick Olsen
Brevard
(321) 205-1100 x106


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[Eje Gustafsson]

The correct list price is $74 for the ECB-3220 set by EnGenius. 
http://store.wisp-router.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=ECB-3220eq=Tp=

/ Eje

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:27 PM
To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

Engenius.

The ECB3220 (you can set them for bridge/router mode and have them ready to
go for the customer!) is pretty good and they're $81 list:
http://www.tessco.com/products/displayHierarchySkus.do?groupId=591subgroupI
d=48showFilterItems=trueeventGroup=4eventPage=1

USB adapter is ok - not a fan of needing drivers on windows.

The end of September (or around there) they were $65 for two (so we paid
around $30 for each device).  Make a Tessco account, make friends with your
account rep, make sure he knows you use these and they will contact you when
the sale shows up.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com wrote:

 So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right
on
 the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but
we
 don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
 We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
 then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
 then most laptops with built in wireless.

 Nick Olsen
 Brevard Wireless
 (321) 205-1100 x106






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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[RickG]

Especially when Microsoft is sending out updates that kill Windows drivers.
I've had several customers loose their drivers to their USB wireless
adapters AFTER updating Windows. Has anyone else experienced this?
-RickG

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote:

 Engenius.

 The ECB3220 (you can set them for bridge/router mode and have them ready to
 go for the customer!) is pretty good and they're $81 list:

 http://www.tessco.com/products/displayHierarchySkus.do?groupId=591subgroupId=48showFilterItems=trueeventGroup=4eventPage=1

 USB adapter is ok - not a fan of needing drivers on windows.

 The end of September (or around there) they were $65 for two (so we paid
 around $30 for each device).  Make a Tessco account, make friends with your
 account rep, make sure he knows you use these and they will contact you
 when
 the sale shows up.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com
 wrote:

  So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right
 on
  the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but
 we
  don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
  We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
  then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
  then most laptops with built in wireless.
 
  Nick Olsen
  Brevard Wireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

[RickG]

You might be able to convert the window mount unit. Put the sucker
(literally) on something heavy. -RickG

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote:


 I like the NS2loco suggestion...   anyone have a handy little desk mount
 for the radio?  Something with a little weight on bottom and small pipe to
 tie wrap radio to then on desk they can aim it in the direction it works
 best.

 Scott Carullo
 Brevard Wireless
 321-205-1100 x102


 

 From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 2:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 I am... my guess is when some of these muni-mesh networks went belly up...
 these things were on the street cheap brand new.

 So its probably new old stock... that's a great price on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jason Hensley
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:56 AM
 To: 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 You referring to this?

 http://www.wlanparts.com/product/MM2211-DZ?meta=FRGutm_source=GBASEutm_med

 ium=CPCutm_content=utm_campaign=

 Looks like it's well under $100.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of 3-dB Networks
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 12:28 PM
 To: n...@brevardwireless.com; 'WISPA General List'
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 Ruckus Metroflex.  That is what most Muni-Wifi deployments use.  They will
 be right at the $100 mark or a little bit more

 Tessco should have good pricing on them.

 Daniel White
 3-dB Networks
 http://www.3dbnetworks.com

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Nick Olsen
 Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 11:19 AM
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot Client

 So it seems that more often then not I run into the person that is right on

 the edge of our hotspot coverage. Normally they hear us pretty well, but we

 don't hear them that great. AP, is stronger then a laptop so it happens.
 We are looking for a client, USB, Ethernet anything. That is cheap (Less
 then about $100) anything that works well and is a little more juiced up
 then most laptops with built in wireless.

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 Brevard Wireless
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[WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Josh Luthman]

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Jason Hensley]

Can't the Mikrotik do LDAP auth?  Haven't done it myself but seems like I
remember seeing that it can.  


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Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:28 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

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Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Dennis Burgess]

As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

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Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

Andy Trimmell
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Josh Luthman]

AD is active directory.  Active directory is Microsoft's bastardization of
LDAP.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote:

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

---
Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
WISPA Vendor Member
Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
Author of Learn RouterOS


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
in with Active Directory.

Andy Trimmell
Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
monthly cost flat rate for their service?

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

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Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet






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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Josh Luthman]

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about 30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
away free wifi somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

 ---
 Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
 WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
 Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
 WISPA Vendor Member
 Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
 LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
 Author of Learn RouterOS


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
 Quick and Simple Internet




 
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

I wonder how they make any money giving it away for free. Maybe I need
to give them a call.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
  PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Josh Luthman]

Turn on the MT hotspot and have it use radius authentication.  The users
that work for the hotspot are in the ip hotspot users db and radius.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
 solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
 away free wifi somewhere.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
 just have the MT look at your radius server.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
  own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
  customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
  all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
 time
  when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
 billing
  and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
  people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
 
  As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?
 
  ---
  Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
  WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
  Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik  WISP Support Services
  WISPA Vendor Member
  Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net
  LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training
  Author of Learn RouterOS
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
 
  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Josh Luthman]

It's like the free version of Dropbox.  Works 100% just has a limitation
here or there to guilt you into paying them.  Costs them little for every
subscriber.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I wonder how they make any money giving it away for free. Maybe I need
 to give them a call.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Andy -

 If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

 1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

 2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
 database,
 not how many are online at a time)

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
 a
  monthly cost flat rate for their service?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of Josh Luthman
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller
 
  Gatespot or WirelessOrbit
 
  Not sure about your AD requirement though...
 
  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373
 
  When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
  improbable, must be the truth.
  --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
 
 
  On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
  atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:
 
   I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
 suggestions
   for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
  hotspots
   and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
  30
   locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
  integrate
   in with Active Directory.
  
   Andy Trimmell
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Mark McElvy]

Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are
you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside
setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the
Mikrotik interface. 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.



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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Jason Hensley]

It's really not that hard to code a web page that will allow someone to sign
up, get their CC info and process it, and then stick their username /
password into either your RADIUS server database or even create an AD user.
Mikrotik can host the page or I think you can have the 'tik forward out to
an external page. 



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

That is true but there still isn't any account creation or billing
solutions but yes pointing the Mikrotiks would work if we were giving
away free wifi somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Correct me if I'm wrong but if your radius server already checks AD then
just have the MT look at your radius server.

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
 own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
 customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
 all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase
time
 when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete
billing
 and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
 people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Dennis Burgess
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:42 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 As in AD will be the radius server? Or you need two radius server?

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 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Andy Trimmell]

MS IAS.

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark McElvy
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:57 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Are you saying you have a RADIUS server that can read AD's users or are
you using Microsoft's IAS as a RADIUS server? You could have Freeside
setup to do your new hotspot users, accounts setup automatically via the
Mikrotik interface. 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 10:46 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

AD doesn't have the ability to create usernames and passwords on its
own. We have a radius server that checks in with AD for current
customers. We want to be able to give current customers access through
all of our hotspots but people that aren't the ability to purchase time
when they're within hotspot range. We're looking for a complete billing
and account creation solution. Very little interaction by us so they
people can just hit a hotspot, pay for time, surf, go home.




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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[ralph]

No % at all.
It is fixed and is not much. They tell about it at
http://www.wirelessorbit.com/

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Andy Trimmell
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
monthly cost flat rate for their service?

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

Not sure about your AD requirement though...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
 for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
hotspots
 and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
30
 locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
integrate
 in with Active Directory.

 Andy Trimmell
 Precision Data Solutions, LLC
 PDSWireless
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[ralph]

2. is not actually correct.

They have a couple of levels of pay service, depending on number of actual
hotspot gateways (routers) you have. The monthly cost is very low.
Their service is great- we have used them since they began and I have
visited their office twice.

They process payments for you through Paypal or Authorize.net (we use this)
and Wireless Orbit does not take a cut of any of your money like all the
others do.

If you want to see what a Mikrotik login portal through Wireless Orbit looks
like, go to one of ours.  Feel free to sign up and buy some Internet if you
want grin 
https://portal.wirelessorbit.com/portal/index.php?portal_id=rewsMlS6KeHyVWVl
pKW-HA,,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

[Dennis Burgess]

We use user manager without issues with Auth.net.

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of ralph
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:10 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

2. is not actually correct.

They have a couple of levels of pay service, depending on number of
actual
hotspot gateways (routers) you have. The monthly cost is very low.
Their service is great- we have used them since they began and I have
visited their office twice.

They process payments for you through Paypal or Authorize.net (we use
this)
and Wireless Orbit does not take a cut of any of your money like all the
others do.

If you want to see what a Mikrotik login portal through Wireless Orbit
looks
like, go to one of ours.  Feel free to sign up and buy some Internet if
you
want grin 
https://portal.wirelessorbit.com/portal/index.php?portal_id=rewsMlS6KeHy
VWVl
pKW-HA,,

Ralph

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:49 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

Andy -

If it hasn't changed they have 2 options

1) Free.  WirelessOrbit sticks a logo on the portal page

2) Monthly cost based on concurrent users (that is users in the
database,
not how many are online at a time)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
improbable, must be the truth.
--- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Andy Trimmell
atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

 Anyone know the % Wirelessorbit takes in revenue per customer or is it
a
 monthly cost flat rate for their service?

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
On
 Behalf Of Josh Luthman
 Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:28 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hotspot controller

 Gatespot or WirelessOrbit

 Not sure about your AD requirement though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however
 improbable, must be the truth.
 --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle


 On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Andy Trimmell
 atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote:

  I'm sure this has been asked before but what are all your
suggestions
  for hotspot controllers? We will be running primarily Mikrotik
 hotspots
  and we already have a RADIUS server in place. We'll be running about
 30
  locations from one central RADIUS server. It will also need to
 integrate
  in with Active Directory.
 
  Andy Trimmell
  Precision Data Solutions, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] HotSpot users and FCC Reporting

[Marlon K. Schafer]

Hi Martha,

I believe that they want the usage reported where it takes place.  Not at 
the billing address.

laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: [WISPA] HotSpot users and FCC Reporting


 Hi,

 I have asked this question before, but I have some new MTU buildings
 that I am setting up more as a hotspot. So people don't have to sign up
 with me and get installed, they just get on if they want to either daily
 or monthly. I have a lot of people who haven't given addresses or have
 given addresses in other states. Probably their billing address.

 So do I make up the jurisdiction they are in? This is not so hard now as
 I don't have that many. But later on (hopefully) it will be harder.

 Perhaps we should entice the FCC to think about this more carefully when
 they want us to report to them?

 Thanks

 Martha
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[WISPA] HotSpot users and FCC Reporting

[Martha Huizenga]

Hi,

I have asked this question before, but I have some new MTU buildings 
that I am setting up more as a hotspot. So people don't have to sign up 
with me and get installed, they just get on if they want to either daily 
or monthly. I have a lot of people who haven't given addresses or have 
given addresses in other states. Probably their billing address.

So do I make up the jurisdiction they are in? This is not so hard now as 
I don't have that many. But later on (hopefully) it will be harder.

Perhaps we should entice the FCC to think about this more carefully when 
they want us to report to them?

Thanks

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Re: [WISPA] HotSpot users and FCC Reporting

[jp]

I would count it as one location; the property location.

You should still be prepared for calea participation though according to my 
understanding of those rules.

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 04:21:34PM -0400, Martha Huizenga wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have asked this question before, but I have some new MTU buildings 
 that I am setting up more as a hotspot. So people don't have to sign up 
 with me and get installed, they just get on if they want to either daily 
 or monthly. I have a lot of people who haven't given addresses or have 
 given addresses in other states. Probably their billing address.
 
 So do I make up the jurisdiction they are in? This is not so hard now as 
 I don't have that many. But later on (hopefully) it will be harder.
 
 Perhaps we should entice the FCC to think about this more carefully when 
 they want us to report to them?
 
 Thanks
 
 Martha
 -- 
 
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 DC Access, LLC
 202-546-5898
 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/
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[WISPA] hotspot data capturing

[Martha Huizenga]

Hi all,

So, we started using hotspot software for some of our MTUs. However, I 
am not wondering, do I input each user into my system (Quickbooks) for 
each payment or do I roll them up some how? I am concerned about 
tracking for the 477. There are different levels of service, so it's not 
just one pot. Also, with the new census tracts the addresses are not all 
going to be in the same tract, so this would need to be captured too.

I'd love to hear thoughts about how others do this. As well as your 
thoughts about how you go about repeat marketing if you don't capture 
this information.

Thanks
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Re: [WISPA] hotspot data capturing

[Joe Miller]

What kind of hotspot software are you using? Some software will give you a 
breakdown on reports.


--- On Mon, 3/2/09, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote:

 From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net
 Subject: [WISPA] hotspot data capturing
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:49 PM
 Hi all,
 
 So, we started using hotspot software for some of our MTUs.
 However, I 
 am not wondering, do I input each user into my system
 (Quickbooks) for 
 each payment or do I roll them up some how? I am concerned
 about 
 tracking for the 477. There are different levels of
 service, so it's not 
 just one pot. Also, with the new census tracts the
 addresses are not all 
 going to be in the same tract, so this would need to be
 captured too.
 
 I'd love to hear thoughts about how others do this. As
 well as your 
 thoughts about how you go about repeat marketing if you
 don't capture 
 this information.
 
 Thanks
 Martha
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[WISPA] Hotspot page

[Josh Luthman]

I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
solution.

The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes
(basically randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably
customizable page in which I can put a few images in.

I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
administering my own Radius server or front end to create the
timecodes.

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

[Charles]

Check out sputnick. 

 
--Original Message--
From: Josh Luthman
Sender: 
To: WISPA General List
ReplyTo: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot page
Sent: Dec 1, 2008 4:11 PM

I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
solution.

The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes
(basically randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably
customizable page in which I can put a few images in.

I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
administering my own Radius server or front end to create the
timecodes.

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

[Jerry Richardson]

We were with Sputnik for a while, but they fell short in many ways. 

We are now with SilverLining http://www.silverliningnetworks.com/

 
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Check out sputnick. 

 
--Original Message--
From: Josh Luthman
Sender: 
To: WISPA General List
ReplyTo: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot page
Sent: Dec 1, 2008 4:11 PM

I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
solution.

The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes (basically
randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably customizable
page in which I can put a few images in.

I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
administering my own Radius server or front end to create the timecodes.

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

--
Sent from my mobile device

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

[Josh Luthman]

If at all possible I would like to stick with Mikrotik - I'm looking for a
replacement hotspot page and radius management frontend rather then
equipment.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Jerry Richardson
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 We were with Sputnik for a while, but they fell short in many ways.

 We are now with SilverLining http://www.silverliningnetworks.com/


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 --Original Message--
 From: Josh Luthman
 Sender:
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 ReplyTo: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot page
 Sent: Dec 1, 2008 4:11 PM

 I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
 gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
 solution.

 The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes (basically
 randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably customizable
 page in which I can put a few images in.

 I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
 administering my own Radius server or front end to create the timecodes.

 Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

 --
 Sent from my mobile device

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

[Matt Jenkins]

You might want to try BlueDotWifi.com. I know the developers since they 
are local to me. I am sure if you have something specific you need added 
or some support that is needed they can provide it.

- Matt

Josh Luthman wrote:
 I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
 gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
 solution.
 
 The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes
 (basically randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably
 customizable page in which I can put a few images in.
 
 I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
 administering my own Radius server or front end to create the
 timecodes.
 
 Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!
 



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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot page

[Mike Delp]

Have you looked at Mikrotik?  User Manager can be set up to handle the
Authentication, and can generate user accounts. ( It will even print cards
with generated user/pass)

We have seen success with User Manager handling PPPOE and Hotspot client
requests (Up to the licens limit for number of users.)  It is a mini Radius
server and works well on a decent Router.  Contact me offline for more
details.

Thanks

Mike

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Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 6:12 PM
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Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot page

I am currently using WirelessOrbit for my hotspots run by Mikrotik
gateways.  For reasons I can't mention here I need to find another
solution.

The only requirements I have is that I can generate timecodes
(basically randomly named users with no passwords) and a reasonably
customizable page in which I can put a few images in.

I have seen several pages that look great but I have no intent in
administering my own Radius server or front end to create the
timecodes.

Thanks in advance for any and all suggestions!

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

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[WISPA] Hotspot Hardware?

[Zachery Wolfinger]

What do you recommend for Hotspot AP's?  We are looking for recommendations
specifically for use with WirelessOrbit.

Thank you,
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Hardware?

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Mikrotik...

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 specifically for use with WirelessOrbit.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Hardware?

[Butch Evans]

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Zachery Wolfinger wrote:

What do you recommend for Hotspot AP's?  We are looking for 
recommendations specifically for use with WirelessOrbit.

For the AP itself, the RB411A platform with whatever radio card 
necessary to provide the needed coverage is fine.  If you are going 
to be running the hotspot controller and the AP on the same board, 
then you can use the RB433.  You can use these in various 
combinations to extend the coverage area, depending on your needs.

I'm assuming you are looking for a Mikrotik Platform for the hotspot 
controller.  MT works extremely well and is very well supported at 
WirelessOrbit.  For other platforms, I don't have a good answer, as 
that's all I've used with WirelessOrbit.

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot solution providers

[Cooper Marcus]

We do this, among other things - http://www.Meraki.com

Or have a look at these providers of various hotspot management  
systems/services - I'm not certain how well any of them match your  
needs, though I think they'd all get you at least part way to what you  
want.

http://www.tomizone.com/

http://www.hotspotsystem.com/

http://www.wifi-cpa.com/

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On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

 Hi,

 What companies are out there that will allow the ISP to partner with
 them on a hotspot solution? I don't want to deal with the customer
 support, billing, etc. but would rather partner with a larger  
 nationwide
 company and just setup the hotspots around our region and get paid  
 based
 on usage, etc. Any suggestions of the good or bad ones?

 thanks,

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot solution providers

[Joe Laura]

Wireless Orbit Rocks. We have been working with them for a couple of years.
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 We do this, among other things - http://www.Meraki.com

 Or have a look at these providers of various hotspot management
 systems/services - I'm not certain how well any of them match your
 needs, though I think they'd all get you at least part way to what you
 want.

 http://www.tomizone.com/

 http://www.hotspotsystem.com/

 http://www.wifi-cpa.com/

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 On Sep 13, 2008, at 9:15 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

  Hi,
 
  What companies are out there that will allow the ISP to partner with
  them on a hotspot solution? I don't want to deal with the customer
  support, billing, etc. but would rather partner with a larger
  nationwide
  company and just setup the hotspots around our region and get paid
  based
  on usage, etc. Any suggestions of the good or bad ones?
 
  thanks,
 
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[WISPA] Hotspot reccomendations?

[Eric Tykwinski]

I'm looking for a simple HotSpot solution that is very end-user friendly.
I'm used to using MikroTiks; however, I don't think that they are the
easiest routers to get around, and we are looking for 0 support for this.
CafeRadius seemed to be an ideal solution, but for some reason I couldn't
get the disk image to load onto the compact flash from either a
Windows machine or an OSX box.  Any other suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.
 

Sincerely,

 

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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot reccomendations?

[Butch Evans]

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Joe Miller wrote:

 Try www.wirelessorbit.com

Ditto...very good, easy to use solution.  You don't have a lot of 
options for customization of the splash page, but it's not a bad 
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[WISPA] HotSpot/HotZone solution

[Martha Huizenga]

Does anyone use a HotSpot/HotZone auto-pay solution that integrates with 
their billing system? We are looking to use a HotSpot solution for MTUs, 
but the ones we've seen don't integrate with any accounting/billing 
systems. We use Quickbooks as our accounting and billing currently.

Thanks

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[WISPA] Hotspot APs

[Patrick Shoemaker]

I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public hotspots. 
These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in restaurants. 
Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just works. Don't want 
to have to worry about rebooting the thing every few weeks when it locks 
up. I also don't need any fancy captive portal pages or logins, but some 
sort of feature to block MAC addresses that stay registered over a 
certain period of time would be nice- it would be good to discourage 
constant freeloading by nearby residents or businesses. Ideas?



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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

[Jeromie Reeves]

If they had not dried up, Buffalo units with openwrt/ddwrt and a
pptp/pppoe tunnel back to a mikrotik. There are a number of other
compatible units. I wold sugest anything that will let you do a tunnel
back to a central hotspot. You can have MT only allow them X time
and/or Y bits.

On 12/10/07, Patrick Shoemaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public hotspots.
 These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in restaurants.
 Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just works. Don't want
 to have to worry about rebooting the thing every few weeks when it locks
 up. I also don't need any fancy captive portal pages or logins, but some
 sort of feature to block MAC addresses that stay registered over a
 certain period of time would be nice- it would be good to discourage
 constant freeloading by nearby residents or businesses. Ideas?


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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

[Butch Evans]

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007, Patrick Shoemaker wrote:

I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public 
hotspots. These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in 
restaurants. Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just 
works. Don't want to have to worry about rebooting the thing every 
few weeks when it locks up. I also don't need any fancy captive 
portal pages or logins, but some sort of feature to block MAC 
addresses that stay registered over a certain period of time would 
be nice- it would be good to discourage constant freeloading by 
nearby residents or businesses. Ideas?


Mikrotik can do this.  Not sure what you mean by inexpensive, but 
you can get a RB133 with a radio card, indoor case and power supply 
for about $150ish.  You can use the trial user feature of the 
hotspot to allow no more than a predetermined amount of time per 
day.


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RE: [WISPA] Hotspot APs

[CHUCK PROFITO]

Meraki

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Providing High Speed Broadband 
to Rural Central California


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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 4:20 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] Hotspot APs


I'm looking for input on a good 802.11 AP to use for public hotspots. 
These hotspots will be free to use for web browsing in restaurants. 
Looking for something simple and inexpensive that just works. Don't want 
to have to worry about rebooting the thing every few weeks when it locks 
up. I also don't need any fancy captive portal pages or logins, but some 
sort of feature to block MAC addresses that stay registered over a 
certain period of time would be nice- it would be good to discourage 
constant freeloading by nearby residents or businesses. Ideas?


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[WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?

[Smith, Rick]

I've asked this question before, never really got a 
response.  Figured I'd try again.

I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide
24x7 support for the users at them.  Generally means
asking the stupid questions like is your wireless
adapter turned on / cable plugged in, etc

I use an answering service now, and they're just not
cutting it.  They have been given a QA sheet by me,
with prescribed answers, and then if none of those
answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my
tech support person in to the call so we can take it
from there.

Well, they're telling customers Sorry, support dept
is closed, let me patch you through to someone else
all the time.   They're now being fired ASAP.

Need someone to replace them.   These calls don't last
long, and it's not too involved a process to support
customers at a hotspot.  

Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ?   

Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the 
other end on supporting stuff like this.  And, it
NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed.

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RE: [WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?

[Mac Dearman]

Rick,


  Give Mike Kasprzk (pronounced - Casperzak) a call. He does hotspots at
hotels and has a company that takes on the phone support for them. He is
located in Buffalo New York and he is a good guy.

Mike Kasprzyk
Thinwires, LLC
Phone: 1.866.736.6851
Web: http://www.thinwires.com/


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 I've asked this question before, never really got a
 response.  Figured I'd try again.
 
 I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide
 24x7 support for the users at them.  Generally means
 asking the stupid questions like is your wireless
 adapter turned on / cable plugged in, etc
 
 I use an answering service now, and they're just not
 cutting it.  They have been given a QA sheet by me,
 with prescribed answers, and then if none of those
 answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my
 tech support person in to the call so we can take it
 from there.
 
 Well, they're telling customers Sorry, support dept
 is closed, let me patch you through to someone else
 all the time.   They're now being fired ASAP.
 
 Need someone to replace them.   These calls don't last
 long, and it's not too involved a process to support
 customers at a hotspot.
 
 Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ?
 
 Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the
 other end on supporting stuff like this.  And, it
 NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed.
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Re: [WISPA] Hotspot Phone Tech Support ?

[George Rogato]

Why would you expect an answering service to do tech suport?

Isn't it out of their league to handle anythng more than taking a name 
number and message?


The problem I see with hotspot tech support, is the cost should be much 
higher than the hotspot internet service costs. A per incident price 
makes more sense to me.


George

Smith, Rick wrote:
I've asked this question before, never really got a 
response.  Figured I'd try again.


I run a number of hotspots, and need to provide
24x7 support for the users at them.  Generally means
asking the stupid questions like is your wireless
adapter turned on / cable plugged in, etc

I use an answering service now, and they're just not
cutting it.  They have been given a QA sheet by me,
with prescribed answers, and then if none of those
answers / procedures work, they're to patch me or my
tech support person in to the call so we can take it
from there.

Well, they're telling customers Sorry, support dept
is closed, let me patch you through to someone else
all the time.   They're now being fired ASAP.

Need someone to replace them.   These calls don't last
long, and it's not too involved a process to support
customers at a hotspot.  

Does anyone subscribe (or offer) such a service ?   

Needs to be courteous people with knowledge on the 
other end on supporting stuff like this.  And, it

NEEDS to be 24x7x365 staffed.

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[WISPA] Hotspot construction

[Mike Hammett]

When building a hotspot type environment, power is needed to cover the whole 
area.  Obviously you have no control over the laptop's abilities.  Does a 
sectorized AP (say 17 dbi 90* sectors) with low power (perhaps XR2 cards with 
output power turned down) match or best the coverage abilities of multiple APs 
with rubber duckies?

My thought is that the increased gain of the sectors helps pull in the laptops, 
allowing for someone to deploy less APs, resulting in a cleaner band.  My 
thought on the XR2s in that they have increased receive sensitivity and cleaner 
reception than other cards, the increased power output would be negated by a 
lowering of the transmit power to not step on my own feet, crowd the spectrum, 
overload close receivers, etc.

I would think to mount on building roofs, with downtilt on the sectors and have 
more than 1 sector cover areas that are likely to have reduced signal due to 
building density and foliage.  Tough areas could just have a smaller AP with a 
ducky.


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