Re: BTS

2012-02-08 Thread GhostlyDeath
I'd recommend SourceForge, I use it for all my projects and they have
everything freely available for Open Source projects.

However, preventing access to those countries isn't much of a big
problem. You can just host the git mirror somewhere else, or someone
could just push them the git mirror anyway.

On 2/7/12, Martin Dietze d...@fh-wedel.de wrote:
 On Tue, February 07, 2012, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:

 Me too. I don't have problems with the current git, and I only request a
 BTS because I think is better for us. But I don't have time to maintain
 a BTS, webpage or git.

 Well, having used SF for a couple of my projects for years now
 I'd say that there is not much to maintain. The git is just as
 git is, i.e. there's no additional maintenance effort involved
 with that.

 The BTS is something we may want. If that is the case, it's
 supposed to save us time. I'm used to working with BTS, and I
 like it better than maintaining BUGS files :)

 With TRAC we'd also get a Wiki which integrates nicely with the
 BTS and - once this is available - with the code in the git. I
 used to work with it for several years while still in my last
 company, and I really like it a great deal, it's simple and
 helps developers organise.

 I'm probably the one here who has contributed the least from all
 of us here. Therefore I don't really want to convince people if
 they feel differently. But as the question was raised, that's
 what I think about it :)

 Cheers,

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Re: BTS

2012-02-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:02:56 -0800, Doug Barton wrote:

On 02/05/2012 07:48, Martin Dietze wrote:

I suggest we move the project to sourceforge. Getting the
project approved will be no problem. Sourceforge does git
hosting, and it has TRAC. I have some of my projects hosted by
them, and I have no reasons for complaints. The only thing that
is missing right now is git integration in TRAC. They've
promised to get this done for long, and so far it hasn't
happened. But even without git integration TRAC is a fair bug
tracking sysem.

This way we'd have the stuff hosted, also if Carlos wants, he
can easily add more developers with repository write acces.


This makes a lot of sense to me.


The idea is good, but, SourceForge (and google code) has countries 
blocked.


We should close the BTS topic :-)



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Re: BTS

2012-02-07 Thread Martin Dietze
On Tue, February 07, 2012, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:

 The idea is good, but, SourceForge (and google code) has countries blocked.

That's interesting, I did not know that. Which countries, and
for what reason?

If that is a blocker (I can't comment on that without more
information), maybe there's another good open source hoster
around with bug tracker integration? I still think that SF is a
good choice..

Cheers,

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Re: BTS

2012-02-07 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 11:43:55 +0100, Martin Dietze wrote:

On Tue, February 07, 2012, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:

The idea is good, but, SourceForge (and google code) has countries 
blocked.


That's interesting, I did not know that. Which countries, and
for what reason?


Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, Syria

http://geek.net/terms-of-use#ProhibitedPersons


If that is a blocker (I can't comment on that without more
information), maybe there's another good open source hoster
around with bug tracker integration? I still think that SF is a
good choice..


No problem for me.

Cheers,
kix



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Re: BTS

2012-02-07 Thread Martin Dietze
On Tue, February 07, 2012, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:

 Me too. I don't have problems with the current git, and I only request a
 BTS because I think is better for us. But I don't have time to maintain
 a BTS, webpage or git.

Well, having used SF for a couple of my projects for years now
I'd say that there is not much to maintain. The git is just as
git is, i.e. there's no additional maintenance effort involved
with that. 

The BTS is something we may want. If that is the case, it's
supposed to save us time. I'm used to working with BTS, and I
like it better than maintaining BUGS files :)

With TRAC we'd also get a Wiki which integrates nicely with the
BTS and - once this is available - with the code in the git. I
used to work with it for several years while still in my last
company, and I really like it a great deal, it's simple and
helps developers organise. 

I'm probably the one here who has contributed the least from all
of us here. Therefore I don't really want to convince people if
they feel differently. But as the question was raised, that's
what I think about it :)

Cheers,

M'bert

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Re: BTS

2012-02-05 Thread Carlos R. Mafra
On Sun,  5 Feb 2012 at 20:01:07 +0800, Paul Harris wrote:
 I vote for something HOSTED so that we don't have to muck about with doing
 all that stuff.
 Noone here seems to have a lot of free time, so the more stuff we
 outsource, the more time can be spent on windowmaker code, which is the
 point of this exercise.

I think this whole discussion is pointless.

Voting for something is a waste of time. Either someone _does_ 
something his own way or nobody does anything and keep voting hoping
that someone else will do something.


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Re: BTS

2012-02-05 Thread Paul Harris
On 5 February 2012 20:15, Carlos R. Mafra crma...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun,  5 Feb 2012 at 20:01:07 +0800, Paul Harris wrote:
  I vote for something HOSTED so that we don't have to muck about with
 doing
  all that stuff.
  Noone here seems to have a lot of free time, so the more stuff we
  outsource, the more time can be spent on windowmaker code, which is the
  point of this exercise.

 I think this whole discussion is pointless.

 Voting for something is a waste of time. Either someone _does_
 something his own way or nobody does anything and keep voting hoping
 that someone else will do something.


I vote that Carlos is right, lets put it to a committee.  We'll need to
vote for who is on the committee and form a tas ..fdajfla jahiu2w' anas
.
.
.
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Paul was slapped by a large trout, and is now out of action


Re: BTS

2012-02-05 Thread Martin Dietze
On Sun, February 05, 2012, Carlos R. Mafra wrote:

 Voting for something is a waste of time. Either someone _does_ 
 something his own way or nobody does anything and keep voting hoping
 that someone else will do something.

I suggest we move the project to sourceforge. Getting the
project approved will be no problem. Sourceforge does git
hosting, and it has TRAC. I have some of my projects hosted by
them, and I have no reasons for complaints. The only thing that
is missing right now is git integration in TRAC. They've
promised to get this done for long, and so far it hasn't
happened. But even without git integration TRAC is a fair bug
tracking sysem. 

This way we'd have the stuff hosted, also if Carlos wants, he
can easily add more developers with repository write acces. 

Some people may not like SF, some may say other open source
hosting providers are better, but this is one that does what we
need, I've used it for long, and I think it will do the job
well.

That's what I think about it.

M'bert

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Re: BTS

2012-02-02 Thread Andreas Tscharner

On 02.02.2012 12:19, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:

What do you think about install bugzilla?

http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/en/html/installation.html


Bugzilla sure is *the* Bug Tracking System. The one and only thing I 
request is:
Use a real nice CSS (or similar) so that the user interface can be 
handled also by non-programmers (see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/)


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Re: BTS

2012-02-02 Thread Carlos R. Mafra
On Thu,  2 Feb 2012 at 13:02:00 +0100, Andreas Tscharner wrote:
 On 02.02.2012 12:19, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:
 What do you think about install bugzilla?
 
 http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/en/html/installation.html
 
 Bugzilla sure is *the* Bug Tracking System. The one and only thing I
 request is:
 Use a real nice CSS (or similar) so that the user interface can be
 handled also by non-programmers (see: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/)

We need volunteers to actually do stuff and make things happen.


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Re: BTS

2012-02-02 Thread Rodolfo kix Garcia
On 02/02/12 19:09, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:

 Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:
 What do you think about install bugzilla?

 http://www.bugzilla.org/docs/tip/en/html/installation.html
 
 I hate bugzilla.

XDD

 That said, I can host a bugzilla instance.

N! I said bugzilla to say something. Bugzilla is well known, but if
you want other, you are welcome.

 Though, to be completely honest, I think I'd rather see something like
 Trac or Redmine where everything is coordinated. Still requires pretty
 CSS.

Ok, I don't have any preference. RFC in the mail list.

 -john
 
 


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Re: BTS

2012-02-02 Thread Martin Dietze
On Thu, February 02, 2012, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:

 Though, to be completely honest, I think I'd rather see something like
 Trac or Redmine where everything is coordinated. Still requires pretty

+1

Also the RCS-integration could be helpful.

Cheers,

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Re: BTS

2012-02-02 Thread Sufrostico
2012/2/2 John H. Robinson, IV jaq...@sbih.org:
 Though, to be completely honest, I think I'd rather see something like
 Trac or Redmine where everything is coordinated. Still requires pretty

+1 TRAC


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