Re: [WSG] CSS-101
Interesting but not well viewd with android. Happy new year to all readers. Diego Thierry Koblentz ha scritto: >http://www.css-101.org > >Happy New Year! >Bonne Année! > >-- >Regards, >Thierry >@thierrykoblentz >www.tjkdesign.com | www.ez-css.org | www.css-101.org > > > >*** >List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm >Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm >Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org >*** > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
R: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Sorry, again! Diego La Monica _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Brett Patterson Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.22 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Another one? How do we turn off the receipts? On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Dennis Lapcewich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Return Receipt Your R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system document: wasDennis Lapcewich/R6/USDAFS received by: at:10/22/2008 09:11:15 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
I've tested it in FF 3, IE6 and 7, Opera 9.5, Safari 3 for Microsoft Windows and all works fine. Please, can you be more exact? Which links are broken or don't work? Did you some strange operations (eg. disable javascript after load the page)? Cheers, Diego La Monica -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 18.03 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system The jastAslide links dont work in firefox -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diego La Monica Sent: 22 October 2008 16:50 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system Hi Thierry, I solved the keyboard navigation issues, try to take a look now [1], I've uploaded an updated version of the script. Only the active tab got focus while and you can change tab only with left/right arrow... It seems like reasonable way to work for you? ;-) Cheers, Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it P.S. With IE7 the page you've suggested [2] me is broken. [1] http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ [2] <http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-link s.asp> *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.549 / Virus Database: 270.8.2/1738 - Release Date: 21/10/2008 14:10 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Thierry, I solved the keyboard navigation issues, try to take a look now [1], I've uploaded an updated version of the script. Only the active tab got focus while and you can change tab only with left/right arrow... It seems like reasonable way to work for you? ;-) Cheers, Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it P.S. With IE7 the page you've suggested [2] me is broken. [1] http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ [2] <http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/keyboard-friendly_tabbed-panels/jump-link s.asp> *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Matt, It could be a bug of the mailing list software, right, but return receipt is annoing and I beg pardon for the mistake! Regards, Diego La Monica _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Matt Ryall Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 9.01 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:19 PM, Raena Jackson Armitage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Paul Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Lisa, > > On behalf of other list members, any chance of turning return receipts off? The read receipt was requested by the original poster. The software this list uses actually seems pretty bad at filtering out stuff like this. Good list management software strips out read-receipt headers [1] as well as blocking the automated out-of-office messages that seem to plague this list. Regards, Matt [1] For example, this is the mailman bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/mailman/+bug/265220 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Mike, I apreciate a lot your offer, but JAST-a-slide is a client side (x)html+javascript (it uses AJAX, and yes php too, to synchronize more clients with master), so if I need an autorun I will implement it directly in Javascript. ;) Thanks Diego La Monica -Messaggio originale- Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Mike at Green-Beast.com Inviato: mercoledì 22 ottobre 2008 16.04 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system I can offer this, though I'm not sure if it meets your needs. http://green-beast.com/autorun/ Cheers. Mike Cherim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] RE: Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi Dave, Dave: I recommend you check out S5: http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2004/10/18/ssup5sup-10/ I've used them on quite a few occasions and they work very well so long as you're happy playing with HTML markup. Diego: I've seen it, It seem like both HTML Slidy and JAST-A-Slide. Right It's interesting and I will proof the knowledge of it. Thanks for the link. Dave: PS I suggest turning off email receipts on emails to mailing lists :) Diego: Damn! I forgot to turn off it every time I post to any kind of mailing list... but It's necessary to keep in touch with the "clever" customers! ;) Sorry to all the list for the "return receipt" spam :) Diego La Monica Diego La Monica wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'd like to inform you all that I've developed an alternative to > "*HTML Slidy*" that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard > like it. > > The plus is that you can *listen the slides with Assistive Technologies* > and produce a *remote presentation*: Students (Client) listen the slides > while the Teacher (Server) leads them. > > All information regarding *JAST-A-Slide* are available on > http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ . > > I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I'm informing > about a standard and compliant software solution. > > I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality > and the performance of that script! > > > > Cheers! > > > > Diego La Monica > > Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibility > > mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica > > web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it > > > > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** -- Dave Lane = Egressive Ltd = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = m: +64 21 229 8147 p: +64 3 9633733 = Linux: it just tastes better = nosoftwarepatents http://egressive.com we only use open standards: http://w3.org Effusion Group Founding Member === http://effusiongroup.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Accessible and cross browser online slide system
Hi guys, I'd like to inform you all that I've developed an alternative to "HTML Slidy" that claim to be accessible, cross browser and standard like it. The plus is that you can listen the slides with Assistive Technologies and produce a remote presentation: Students (Client) listen the slides while the Teacher (Server) leads them. All information regarding JAST-A-Slide are available on http://jastegg.it/jastASlide/ . I hope that will not be considered as spam, because I'm informing about a standard and compliant software solution. I will appreciate any kind of suggestion aimed to improve the quality and the performance of that script! Cheers! Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibility mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Re: ARIA
Hi Hassan and everybody, I think that we have to take a while of silence and think about what is *necessary* and what is *pointless*. Well. I'm member of W3C PFWG but I'd like to stress that what follows is my opinion and does not reflect necessary the opinion of the whole Group. Well, I think that: 1. If you provide a valid mark-up you don't need to validate it. 2. If you apply ARIA roles, states and properties in your mark-up and HTML Validator does not validate them... what's the problem? Is the Browser does not render the page correctly? Well, the page is correctly rendered. 3. If you put ARIA in your mark-up, after that you validate the page, are you making some mistakes? No After that I suppose that serving a page understandable by AT (Assistive Technology) is much more important of validation of the page... (I'm not flaming but) I'm not saying to serve invalid pages but: valid mark-up (self validation) with gain of ARIA is better than valid mark-up (HTML Validator). In conclusion, ARIA is still a Working Draft. Don't pretend to have all before the time. *NOTE* I want to clarify again that what I wrote reflects exclusively my humble point of view. Cheers. Diego La Monica Member of Protocols and Formats Working Group for IWA/HWG mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it > -Messaggio originale- > Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per > conto di Hassan Schroeder > Inviato: lunedì 11 agosto 2008 17.17 > A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Oggetto: Re: [WSG] Re: ARIA > > David Dorward wrote: > > >> When will the W3C validator support ARIA? > > > > As I said "Now". > > Using your provided DTD, a simple test file results in: > > Errors found while checking this document as -//W3C//DTD XHTML+ARIA > 1.0//EN! > > Validation Output: 13 Errors > > 1. Error Line 2, Column 76: could not get > "/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd" from "www.w3.org" (reason given was "Not > Found"). > >…//www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd"> > >✉ > 2. Error Line 2, Column 76: DTD did not contain element declaration > for document type name. > >…//www.w3.org/MarkUp/DTD/xhtml-aria-1.dtd"> > >✉ > >A DOCTYPE declares the version of the language used, as well as > what the root (top) element of your document will be. For example, if > the top element of your document is , the DOCTYPE declaration will > look like: " >In most cases, it is safer not to type or edit the DOCTYPE > declaration at all, and preferable to let a tool include it, or copy and > paste it from a trusted list of DTDs. > > > > > Perhaps you have an example file that validates? > > -- > Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com > >dream. code. > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Javascript help with Reg Exp required please
Why not use the following?
new RegExp(txt + \s, i);
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Da: Pierre-Henri Lavigne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: lunedì 2 giugno 2008 19.44
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: [WSG] Javascript help with Reg Exp required please
Good day all,
Does anyone already get the following issue ?
var str = "The Foo fooSz Fighers";
var rule = /foo\s/i;
console.log(str.match(rule)); // returns Foo
var str2 = "The Foo fooSz Fighers";
var txt = "foo";
var rule2 = eval('/' + txt + '\s/i');
console.log(str2.match(rule2)); // returns fooSz
or did I miss something ?
Thanks,
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R: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Hi Darren,
did you ever tried:
label{
float:left;
clear:left;
}
It's better than now. :)
Cheers.
Diego La Monica
Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità
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-Messaggio originale-
Da: Darren Lovelock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: lunedì 19 maggio 2008 0.04
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: RE: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Here's a example of what I'm doing http://www.munkyonline.co.uk/test.html
I want the li's to behave the same as table cells set with valign:middle.
I've had to float the li's left instead of displaying them inline otherwise
they stack on top of each other in a mess!
I suppose looking at it I could have used divs instead of a list but either
way, I think it will still behave the same.
Cheers,
Darren
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rahul Gonsalves
Sent: 18 May 2008 13:46
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centering all items in a li
Darren,
On 17-May-08, at 8:09 PM, Darren Lovelock wrote:
> I've been trying to find a solution that will allow me to vertically
> center all the items in a li. The big problems i've got are that the
> li's are a non-fixed height and are floating to the left.
A link to a stripped down test would be helpful.
However, if you can't post a link, perhaps one of the links below will be
helpful to you?
Best,
- Rahul.
[1] http://www.brunildo.org/test/
[2] http://www.brunildo.org/test/vertmiddle.html
[3] http://www.brunildo.org/test/valimid2.html
[4] http://www.brunildo.org/test/va_lineheight.html
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R: [WSG] is display:none inheritance
Hi tee,
simply:
ul#nav li ul li ul{
display: none;
}
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-Messaggio originale-
Da: tee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: sabato 10 maggio 2008 10.24
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: Re: [WSG] is display:none inheritance
On May 10, 2008, at 12:05 AM, Fuji kusaka wrote:
> hi tee,
>
> i would to help you but i need to see your source code and if
> possible the website so that i can be of good help.
>
> you can have a look at some of my drop down menus.
>
Fuji, thanks for the response. I got it working while trying to
explain it to me.
Anyway, this is what I have
first level menu
second level menu 1
second level menu 2
third level menu
If I add display none to :
#menu ul ul or #nav li ul {display: none}
the 'second level menu' is display to none
(http://lotusseedsdesign.com/1.gif
). That works, but I want the second level menu shows, and only wanted
the 'third level menu' and 'fourth level menu (if there is any) be
hiding.
For now, I am just concerning with getting ride of thrid level menu, but
With this:
#menu ul ul ul {display: none;}
All levels show up, and when I hover the menu item that has the sub-
level, for example, if I point my mouse on 'second level menu2', the
thrid level shows up, and the fourth level that is the child of third
level also show. http://lotusseedsdesign.com/3.gif
I don't want that.
With this:
#menu li ul ul li {display: none;}
The third level is gone, but not quite, because I am hiding the 'li',
so it leaves an empty block like so:
#menu ul#nav ul ul{display: none;}
http://lotusseedsdesign.com/2.gif
When trying to articulate my thinking, I came out something
#menu ul#nav ul ul {display: none;}
Vola! all working now
http://lotusseedsdesign.com/4.gif
tee
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R: [WSG] Firefox skips dropdown and multi-select list with tabbing (?)
Hi tee, can you provide an (un)working example? Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it -Messaggio originale- Da: tee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: domenica 4 maggio 2008 13.58 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: [WSG] Firefox skips dropdown and multi-select list with tabbing (?) I'd just noticed that Firefox skips the dropdown and multi-select list with tabbing. Anybody knows if there is a workround? Thanks! tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?
What about ? Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it _ Da: Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: sabato 3 maggio 2008 11.15 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: [WSG] Alternative to align = center? Hi, I know that the align attribute such as is not allowed in XHTML Strict, but it got me thinking on what the possible alternatives are for a dynamic environment such as a forum? For instance if I know the image width or the total width of all the images will be the same I usually put them in a wrapper with a fixed width and use margin: 5px auto as an example. What happens if you will never know the width of the images or how many images someone may post, as happens on a forum I run. Ive resorted to creating a bbcode tag that uses as that is the only way I can think of. Are these scenarios always doomed to use transitional doctypes and deprecated code? Id be interested in your opinions Cheers Simon *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] background image
Remember that the url(
) is relatve to the CSS file and not to the HTML
page.
Cheers.
Diego La Monica
Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità
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Da: Jason Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: lunedì 28 aprile 2008 4.58
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: RE: [WSG] background image
Would be something to do with the url address in your background image.
Check the path in your browser using your site url with
images/images/lets.gif to see if it appears...
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Behalf Of Alexander Uribe
Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 12:37 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] background image
I have a problem with a background image.
When viewing the site on a number of browsers, the background image appears
fine.
However, recently the site went up and the background image has dissapeared.
Any ideas?
This is the CSS
body {
background-color: #A816AD;
margin: 0; padding: 0;
background-image: url(images/images/lets.gif);
background-repeat: repeat-y;
width:1100px;
}
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R: R: [WSG] Scriptaculous pop up over drop downs
Skip Evans:
I think first I'll try a hide and display with JS on the drop downs.
I get the impression that might be the most cross-browser compatible
solution.
Sound about right?
Diego:
Yes! I think it's the more convenient (and compliant) way to get your
application standard.
Diego
Diego La Monica wrote:
> Hi Evans,
> the problem is neither linked both to scriptaculous and your CSS.
> This is a well-known IE bug.
> The only way that you have to render a popup over the items is
> with an iframe (only in IE).
> This is not so clear, and is totally invalid if you have a page XHTML
1.0
> Strict... but it's the only solution.
> Another way you can follow (only if the popup overrides completely the
> select boxes you can hide them when the popup is visible then re-show them
> on the popup close event.
>
> Sorry for my poor and non-understandable English :)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG)
> Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità
> mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica
> web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it
>
> -Messaggio originale-
> Da: Skip Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Inviato: sabato 26 aprile 2008 18.21
> A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Oggetto: [WSG] Scriptaculous pop up over drop downs
>
> Hey all,
>
> I'm using Scriptaculous to create pop up windows
> that sit over the browser to hold forms for user
> input.
>
> I have a really weird situation on one page with
> IE 6 & 7 where the pop up appears over the browser
> content, but two drop downs under the pop up bleed
> right through and look as if they're in the pop
> up. (It works fine in FF, naturally.)
>
> I tried increasing the z-index value in the CSS
> for the pop up, but this had no affect. Here is
> the CSS for the pop up.
>
> .popup_panel {
> position: absolute;
> text-align: left;
> top: 100px;
> left: 180px;
> margin: 0 0 1px 0;
> border: 2px solid #555;
> z-index: 100;
> background-color: #fff;
> color: #999;
> }
>
> And the JS code that displays the pop up looks
> like this:
>
> var url='modules.php?mod=players&req=addplayer';
> displayText('popup_space',url);
> $('popup_space').show();
> return false;
>
> popup_space is set at the top of the header.html,
> main template file:
>
>
>
> I'm baffled at this point, so any advice would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks!
> Skip
>
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R: [WSG] Scriptaculous pop up over drop downs
Hi Evans,
the problem is neither linked both to scriptaculous and your CSS.
This is a well-known IE bug.
The only way that you have to render a popup over the items is
with an iframe (only in IE).
This is not so clear, and is totally invalid if you have a page XHTML 1.0
Strict... but it's the only solution.
Another way you can follow (only if the popup overrides completely the
select boxes you can hide them when the popup is visible then re-show them
on the popup close event.
Sorry for my poor and non-understandable English :)
Cheers.
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-Messaggio originale-
Da: Skip Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inviato: sabato 26 aprile 2008 18.21
A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Oggetto: [WSG] Scriptaculous pop up over drop downs
Hey all,
I'm using Scriptaculous to create pop up windows
that sit over the browser to hold forms for user
input.
I have a really weird situation on one page with
IE 6 & 7 where the pop up appears over the browser
content, but two drop downs under the pop up bleed
right through and look as if they're in the pop
up. (It works fine in FF, naturally.)
I tried increasing the z-index value in the CSS
for the pop up, but this had no affect. Here is
the CSS for the pop up.
.popup_panel {
position: absolute;
text-align: left;
top: 100px;
left: 180px;
margin: 0 0 1px 0;
border: 2px solid #555;
z-index: 100;
background-color: #fff;
color: #999;
}
And the JS code that displays the pop up looks
like this:
var url='modules.php?mod=players&req=addplayer';
displayText('popup_space',url);
$('popup_space').show();
return false;
popup_space is set at the top of the header.html,
main template file:
I'm baffled at this point, so any advice would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Skip
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R: [WSG] Semantic menu implementation suggestions?
Furthermore, to make your life really easy now, you have to do only a cut&paste of the code shown on the following page: <http://diegolamonica.info/test/WSG/menu/menu.htm> - Full xhtml compliat, - works with: firefox 2.0, Safari for Windows, Internet Explorer 7 and Opera. Maybe it will be a good starting point. Regards. Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Diego La Monica Inviato: giovedì 24 aprile 2008 11.54 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: R: [WSG] Semantic menu implementation suggestions? Hi Richard, you can try to make it with something like this: Back home RSS Site map Search: And apply the style by CSS. How? Each black-menu will have a black background, each li item will have the circular black image with each symbol and the input[type=image] will have the Submit image. Hoping the suggestions will be useful to you. Best regards! Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Richard Johnson Inviato: giovedì 24 aprile 2008 10.48 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: [WSG] Semantic menu implementation suggestions? Hi Everyone! I need to build this menu in XHTML 1.0 Strict, See attached... Can anyone suggest a good way to implement this? I have built the search which was quite easy. Cheers, -- Richard Johnson == Landline: +44 (0) 207 183 8877 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Semantic menu implementation suggestions?
Hi Richard, you can try to make it with something like this: Back home RSS Site map Search: And apply the style by CSS. How? Each black-menu will have a black background, each li item will have the circular black image with each symbol and the input[type=image] will have the Submit image. Hoping the suggestions will be useful to you. Best regards! Diego La Monica Web 2.0 - Standards - Accessibilità mobile: +39 3337235382 - skype: diego.la.monica web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Richard Johnson Inviato: giovedì 24 aprile 2008 10.48 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: [WSG] Semantic menu implementation suggestions? Hi Everyone! I need to build this menu in XHTML 1.0 Strict, See attached... Can anyone suggest a good way to implement this? I have built the search which was quite easy. Cheers, -- Richard Johnson == Landline: +44 (0) 207 183 8877 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] == *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
R: [WSG] Form best practice
I usual use the following kind of approach: .. .. I think that as for ol > li it can guarantee a good flexibility. Cheers -- Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG) http://diegolamonica.info http://jastegg.it _ Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Per conto di Matthew Pennell Inviato: lunedì 21 aprile 2008 8.16 A: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Oggetto: Re: [WSG] Form best practice On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 4:36 AM, Jens-Uwe Korff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: we are currently evaluating how we code up forms. In the process I'd like to review form best practices. Please send me any bookmarks you might have of what you consider top of class. I favour this approach: http://www.sitepoint.com/article/fancy-form-design-css form > fieldset > ol > li > label/input I've found that this approach gives you a great deal of flexibility in how you can style the form. -- - Matthew *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] a target=" blank" not part of xhtml
Another solution is http://wili.diegolamonica.info that allow you to open discretional popup windows. That page is in Italian only but in few days it will be translated in more other languages. It doesn't require that you are skilled in javascript, but requires to follow only the instruction that are on the above link and it doesn't ask to add extra markup and if you need you are able to manage popup window with it's settings (toolbar, scrollbars, width, height, etc. etc.). There are some examples on the page in the examples area that will help you to understand how it works. Cheers. Diego On 28/03/2008, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > > Behalf Of Michael Horowitz > > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 8:45 AM > > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > > > Subject: [WSG] a target=" blank" not part of xhtml > > > > I just read how a target="_blank" is not part of xhtml > > > > > Why not. I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with > javascript. > > > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2004/01/02/targetblank-xhtml-10- > > strict-conversion/ > > > If you really need to open a new window, this JS solution may help as it > does not require extra markup: > http://tjkdesign.com/articles/popup_window_with_no_extra_markup.asp > > > -- > Regards, > Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com > > > > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > -- -- Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG) Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 W3C Protocols and Format Working Group member for IWA/HWG Web Skill Profiles WG Member (http://skillprofiles.eu ) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Skype: diego.la.monica mobile +393337235382 - Web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it [ Le uova si sono schiuse! ] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] a target=” blank” not part of xhtml
Because it's against accessibility of a webpage. On 27/03/2008, Michael Horowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just read how a target="_blank" is not part of xhtml > > Why not. I can't imagine its better practice to replace it with > javascript. > > http://weblogtoolscollection.com/archives/2004/01/02/targetblank-xhtml-10-strict-conversion/ > > -- > Michael Horowitz > Your Computer Consultant > http://yourcomputerconsultant.com > 561-394-9079 > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > -- -- Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG) Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 W3C Protocols and Format Working Group member for IWA/HWG Web Skill Profiles WG Member (http://skillprofiles.eu ) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Skype: diego.la.monica mobile +393337235382 - Web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it [ Le uova si sono schiuse! ] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG]
Hi Nancy, the reason for the black outline around the submit button in IE6 and 7 is that IE renders the buttons with the system API, and if you view each Windows interface, the default button that fires the click event with the enter too is outlined black. I think that It would not be at any accessible to make the submit button ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Skype: diego.la.monica mobile +393337235382 - Web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it [ Le uova si sono schiuse! ] On 27/02/2008, Nancy Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone know why in IE6 and 7 there is a black outline around > buttons that use type="button", and is there a work around to rid of the outline? > > Webaim.org suggests using 'submit' or 'reset' instead of 'button' to > define the input type. > http://www.webaim.org/techniques/forms/controls#button > > Would > > Thanks in advance > > Nancy Johnson > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > -- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Definition List appropriate for FAQ?
I think that the most semantic solution would be: ol/li for questions list and dt/dd for questions and answers. But a ol/li would be adequatelly correct. Cheers Diego On 17/01/2008, Jason Pruim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Jan 17, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Christian Snodgrass wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I've been trying to decide which is more semantically correct for an > > FAQ, either 2 paragraph (one for the question, one for the answer), > > a single paragraph (with spans for formating), or a definition list. > > I think the definition list is probably the most appropriate, but at > > the same time you can't really call an FAQ a list of definitions, so > > I'm not really sure. What are your thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks. > > When I setup my FAQ's for my website, I put them in ordered lists... > But I didn't know much about semantics at that point, but to me it > still seems to fit good :) > > > > -- > > Jason Pruim > Raoset Inc. > Technology Manager > MQC Specialist > 3251 132nd ave > Holland, MI, 49424 > www.raoset.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > -- -- Diego La Monica (IWA/HWG) Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 W3C Protocols and Format Working Group member for IWA/HWG Web Skill Profiles WG Member (http://skillprofiles.eu ) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Skype: diego.la.monica mobile +393337235382 - Web: http://diegolamonica.info - http://jastegg.it [ Le uova si sono schiuse! ] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Javascript Dropdown Problems
Hallo James,
James Jeffery:
>
>
> I have a list of links with a nested list within one for the 's. The
> nested listed is hidden
> from view and made visable when the user clicks the parent .
>
> It works fine, apart from for accessibility reasons how should i implement
> this list? Users
> with JS disabled but CSS enabled will see nothing, users with both will
> disabled will see
> the list. If i create the elements and insert into the DOM users without
> JS loose out. Its a
> tough one. I have an idea on how to do it to cover everyone, but it seems
> like a long process
> for something simple.
>
Diego:
well, you should inject CSS using Javascript,
(document.getElementById('foo').style
or document.getElementById('foo').className='fooxxx' or similar aproach).
James Jeffery:
> Also i am using onclick attribute to invoke the function, should i place
> it in the href attribute
> as the href is dead anyway, it does nothing but invoke the function.
> Alternativly because its
> not a link to any resource would it be better to loose the and place
> it in a , personally
> it seems like im missusing an element in this instance.
>
Diego:
If you use a "#" into href there are no problems but is better if the
sub-list is identified with an unique Id and the parent link points to it.
For example:
Item 1
Item 1.1
Item 1.2
Item 1.3
Item 1.4
But, be careful, if you handle the onclick event you should handle the
onkeypress event too to intercept the SPACEBAR and ENTER keys.
Maybe it could help you.
Good luck!
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Re: [WSG] window.event.keycode works for IE, not for firefox
Hi Simom,
change your code as follows:
HTML:
JAVASCRIPT:
function setCmdKeyIE(event) {
if(event==null) event = window.event;
var cmdkeycode = "";
if (event.keyCode != 13 & event.keyCode != 33 &
event.keyCode != 34 & event.keyCode < 112 ) return;
...
}
I solved as described for all my web apps.
Best regards.
On 08/10/2007, Simon Cockayne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> window.event.keycode works for IE to capture key input, not for Firefox.
>
> Firefox throws an error "window.event has no properties".
>
>
> Sowhat code can be used for both?
>
>
> *** My HTML snippet:
>
>
> ...
>
>
>
> *** My Javascript snippet:
>
> function setCmdKeyIE() {
>var cmdkeycode = "";
>if (window.event.keyCode != 13 & window.event.keyCode != 33 &
> window.event.keyCode != 34 & window.event.keyCode < 112 ) return;
>...
> }
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Simon
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Re: [WSG] Calendars and tables
Hi Andrew, few months ago I've made a tutorial[1] on my site (in italian language) to make an experimental calendar totally accessible using (not a table but) a pointed list (ul/li)[2] (Try to disable CSS and try to navigate it. Hope you'll enjoy it). Much people said me to be agree with my ideas much other not. So, IMHO (it's better to put this acronym :) ) , I should make a yearly calendar made as a table with 12 cells: 3 cols x4 (Seasons) rows, and inside each of them I would put my unordered-list-accessible calendar. I hope to be clear and usefull to your issue! Best regards! [1] Tutorial - Lang. ITA: http://diegolamonica.info/tutorials/?id=10<http://diegolamonica.info/tutorials/?id=10> [2] Demo: http://diegolamonica.info/instruments/download.php?id=28 -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified (transcript ID # 6653550) for: RDBMS Concepts; HTML 4.0 W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info On 14/09/2007, Andrew Maben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think there's more or less consensus that a calendar is tabular data. > For one month that seems fine: th for days of the week, td for dates of the > month (+ events on those days). > > So what about an entire year? Is a table of tables permissible? Or should > one somehow cram all the information into a single table? > > I await your opinions with interest... and some trepidation! > > > Andrew > > > > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] lack of 'lang' attribute fails WAI
I suggest to use for the default lang the language which starts the body: the first word is english or chinese? And for each section that is in the other language (that not is the default) you should specify the other language. I hope it will be hopefull. -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified (transcript ID # 6653550) for: RDBMS Concepts; HTML 4.0 W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info On 07/09/07, Tee G. Peng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am working on a bilingual site (chinese/english) that needs to pass > at least WCAG AA, the site is UTF-8 charset and I didn't use lang > attribute in the meta because it's a bilingual site. > > and I am getting this error on Priority 3 Verification Checklist: > > 4.3 Identify the primary natural language of a document. > > * Rule: 4.3.1 - Documents are required to use the META element > with the 'name' attribute value 'language' in the Head section. >o Note: This rule has not been selected to be verified for > this checkpoint. > * Rule: 4.3.2 - The HTML (Root) element must use the 'lang' > attribute. >o Failure - The HTML (Root) element does not use the > 'lang' attribute. > > > What do you propose I should do to make the 'failure' goes away? > > Thanks! > > tee > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > > *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Markup an Address?
Ryan Moore: > > Looking for best practice markup for addresses. > > is it correct to use > > > Main Office > 123 Fake Street > Somewhere, SomeCountry, SomeZip > > > or is there a better practice for this? Diego La Monica: Ryan, I don't think is the correct use for dl+dt/dd because dt is a term while dd is a definition for the term, and in a dictionary it would be the best method (IMHO) because a term could have more than one definition, but in an address, each definition (in your example) is right, but any of them must be omitted. I suppose that the correct way to represent an address is by microformats. Bye. -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified (transcript ID # 6653550) for: RDBMS Concepts; HTML 4.0 W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
Hi Joyce Evans: I always thought it was a good idea to open links to other websites in a separate window, so you don't lose the visitor. If the visitor clicks on a link on your website and it does not open into a separate window, the visitor may stay in the other website for awhile, going to, say, 20 different pages. Most likely, he's not going to click on the back button 20 times to get back to your website, so you've lost the visitor or potential customer. If the link opens up into a separate window, the visitor cannot click on the back button, so he'll need to click on the exit (X) button, and voila, he's back in your website, where you want him to be. Diego La Monica: I wonder: who should decide where open new links you or the visitors of your site? I think they should be the last ones. -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
Hi, Gaspar: But all this examples doesnt still force the users to open a new window!?! Not all, WindowedLinks doesn't force user, but let the user to choose by a common function on the page. So i not use target="blank", it's the somethink, or i have turn off javascript to be forced to open in a new Window!? No, you have to turn on javascript to allow the script to open the desired links in a new window I many times think in this, and think in a way of using a class="" or rel="" to a , this activate a javascript function that take the href="" in question and creat after that element another elemente but with target="_blank" and just a image that everyone use for "new window". It isn't wrong but (IMHO) it's too complex less usable. I know that this will duplicate the code, but just on fly, and the user will not be forced to open in new window, he have the possibility to choose. Or anything of this is wrong? The only thing that results not correct (nothing is wrong ;-) ) to me is that a user whit disabilities that uses Screen Reader to browse the site, finds the first link and could loose the second one or could be bored for the duplicated information. But could be a good idea. See you! -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
On 15/07/07, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Behalf Of Diego La Monica > What i've said is: > to use windowed Links in it's base configuration you need only to insert > into the head block of your page the script element and any element in your > html structure identified (id) as "windowedLinks". That's all. But applying this ID to some element in the document means you're adding extra markup, isn't? ;-) Yes is the only extramarkup, but you don't need really to add it: in the head of the script there is a configuration block that allow you to choose in which element (identified by its "id") you would put the "control for the user to open in same/new window the links". In the last case you don't need to add extra markup to your web page isn't? :-) See you! D. --- Regards, Thierry | http://www.tjkdesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
Thierry, i'm sorry because i haven't jet translated the tutorial and the presentation page, but sure! It is on my ToDo list. :-) What i've said is: to use windowed Links in it's base configuration you need only to insert into the head block of your page the script element and any element in your html structure identified (id) as "windowedLinks". That's all. All other thinks are made by the script. If you need to have any other extended (i'd like to remark extended) functionality, you have to take hand to the class attribute of the desidred link item. You don't miss anything,,, it is my english too poor. :-) Best regards. Diego On 14/07/07, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Behalf Of Diego La Monica >> I wrote an article about this, this solution does not require extra markup. >> http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/popup_window_with_no_extra_markup.asp > Exactly, i wrote the mentioned script in this thread that identify by itself > the external links and leave to the user the choice (remembering it in the future) > try it... It's totally degradable: > - it is not required to add new markup > - it is ready to use > - it allow more extended behavior > - if you want to force to open a link in a new window just add a class name wili-forced. > What should you do to configure it? > Simply add a tag between and with id="windowedLinks" (eg. ). Diego, I'm confused, you say: "it is not required to add new markup", but then mention "class name" and "span". Is the "windowedLinks" ID *necessary* for your solution to work? I didn't read your article (my Italian is not good enough), so it's possible I'm just missing something... --- Regards, Thierry | http://www.tjkdesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
> http://www.accessify.com/features/tutorials/the-perfect-popup/ I wrote an article about this, this solution does not require extra markup. http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/popup_window_with_no_extra_markup.asp As a side note, I believe it is better to apply a simple class name to the links rather than using the script to style them using a bunch of properties. Exactly, i wrote the mentioned script in this thread that identify by itself the external links and leave to the user the choice (remembering it in the future) try it... It's totally degradable: - it is not required to add new markup - it is ready to use - it allow more extended behavior - if you want to force to open a link in a new window just add a class name wili-forced. What should you do to configure it? Simply add a tag between and with id="windowedLinks" (eg. ). End :-) For any support you could contact me in private. --- Regards, Thierry | htt://wwwtjkdesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ******* -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] To target or not
I wrote for a solution few monts ago, that takes interests in some peoples in Italy. I've developed a javascript solution that grant accessibility and leave the user to choose to open all external links (or the ones marked as external) both in a new window and in the same window. Actually the page i've wrote is only in italian language (I'm preparing an English version). In the case, the url to gather this script is: http://wili.diegolamonica.info/ I don't like to make spam and sorry if you consider this message as it. If someone is interested to have a notify when a translation of it is available please send me a private msg so i don't make another spam about that. Bye Diego On 13/07/07, James Jeffery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Id say dont use pop-ups, nobody likes them w! :P On 7/13/07, Maria Solange Siebra Borges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tomorrow see you!! bye solange > > 2007/7/12, Matthew Ohlman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Hello List, > > > > I was curious what others opinions were on this issue... > > > > Since W3C doesn't allow the target attribute in XHTML Strict, which do > > > > you think is better? Having the window opening up with JavaScript or > > just keeping the page in the same window like W3C wants. > > > > I assume the reason for not allowing the target attribute is for > > accessibility--because screen readers can not control pop-ups. > > Therefore it seems logical to me to keep it in the same window--even > > if > > it is an external site, etc. > > > > What does everyone think? > > > > Matthew > > -- > > Matthew Ohlman > > www.ohlman.com > > > > > > *** > > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > *** > > > > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** > *********** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Re: Microformats was [ Is this a good use of dl ]
Hi, I'm new about WSG Mailing List, but i'm thinking that this conversation is really interesting. What about element? D. On 07/07/07, Designer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thierry Koblentz wrote: > [big snip] > If you're willing to go with that many elements, why not using microformats? > http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard > > --- > Regards, > Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com Perhaps I'm being dumb here, but I've looked at Microformats (briefly) and I can't see the advantage over what any decent webby would knock up on his own. The hcard example makes every line a div and just seems, frankly, daft. So what's it all about? HELP! :-) -- Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *********** -- Diego La Monica Web: programmazione, standards, accessibilità e 2.0 Brainbench certified for RDBMS Concepts (transcript ID # 6653550) W3C HTML WG IWA/HWG Member Responsabile liste IWA Italy ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) Web Skill Profiles WG Member ( http://skillprofiles.eu ) phone +390571464992 - mobile +393337235382 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: diego.la.monica - ICQ #: 249-460-264 Web: http://diegolamonica.info *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
