[WSG] IE6 Problem (what a surprise)
Hi All, I site I've started at http://entyce.net.au/index1.html looks good in IE7, Firefox etc but am getting a problem with not having a white background in IE6. You'll see what I mean. I've used the Inman position clearing (along with some Andy Clark ideas from his book) to have the footer below the content (whichever content area is taller) but for some reason doesn't work for me in IE6 even though it is supposed to. Must have messed up another setting somewhere. Any ideas on how to best get out of this mess? Thanks Gav... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 Problem (what a surprise)
Hi, I get a white background in my ie6 except a square in the middle... I do however notice that you use a png image, maybe that is the problem.. On 5/28/07, Gav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I site I've started at http://entyce.net.au/index1.html looks good in IE7, Firefox etc but am getting a problem with not having a white background in IE6. You'll see what I mean. I've used the Inman position clearing (along with some Andy Clark ideas from his book) to have the footer below the content (whichever content area is taller) but for some reason doesn't work for me in IE6 even though it is supposed to. Must have messed up another setting somewhere. Any ideas on how to best get out of this mess? Thanks Gav... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com http://www.germworks.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] IE6 Problem (what a surprise)
Thanks, I've tried a few things. Got rid of all pngs Got rid of top navigation no difference (so put them back) I've changed the color of the #content div background-color so have narrowed this down to be the problem container. Will keep looking. Gav... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jermayn Parker Sent: Monday, 28 May 2007 3:18 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 Problem (what a surprise) Hi, I get a white background in my ie6 except a square in the middle... I do however notice that you use a png image, maybe that is the problem.. On 5/28/07, Gav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I site I've started at http://entyce.net.au/index1.html looks good in IE7, Firefox etc but am getting a problem with not having a white background in IE6. You'll see what I mean. I've used the Inman position clearing (along with some Andy Clark ideas from his book) to have the footer below the content (whichever content area is taller) but for some reason doesn't work for me in IE6 even though it is supposed to. Must have messed up another setting somewhere. Any ideas on how to best get out of this mess? Thanks Gav... *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com http://www.germworks.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Hi Susie,
I am not an expert by any means. I joined this group to learn from others
and get some tips. I try to tackle other people's problems because it s a
great way to learn and hopefully I can help someone out in the process. I
have read a number of books on CSS (and other web related topics) and found
the best explanation of the CSS model for me was in CSS Mastery Advanced
Web Standards Solutions by Andy Budd.
A couple of techniques I use when debugging:
1) put a border around the problem area and surrounding or enclosing blocks
using border: solid red 1px;
2) remove HTML and/or CSS chunks to try to isolate the problem. Sometimes by
removing some HTML the problem goes away then that tells me where the issue
lies.
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Kepler
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Hi there Kepler
Thank you!
I believe it's OK now.
I would really like to ask you how you know all this - how you keep it in
your head?!! Do you have pages and pages of stuff like this written down, or
what?!!!
For example: about making nav buttons clickable in IE7: why does the
container div need to be 'position: relative for IE7? And what if there
wasn't a container div? Would that make it not work at all?!
I really need to get a handle on how to keep all these things 'known' to me!
I've got a quite good book - The CSS Anthology, by Rachel Andrews. But it's
pre-IE7 ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be great!
Thanks again ... :)
- susie
On 15/5/07 6:37 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you define
It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited { /* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited {/* instead of #level2nav li
a */
Regards,
Kepler
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
There is also an abundance of information left from those who initially
discovered and tried to squash the IE family rendering bugs. Any google
search for IE6 box model bugs or anything of the like will return a
complete education's worth of material.
In the long run its all experiencing each bug and understanding what
caused it and knowing that ahead of time, next time you begin marking up
a layout.
When I first started doing layouts with CSS, I thought IE had it right
and the other browsers were wrong!
Slowly I learned through trial and error, and for a time even did
hybrid layouts using minimal tables as I got a stronger grasp of the
issues I was facing.
The most important things you can do as you create layouts are to:
* Make sure you're using strict document types and validate your
code before anything else
* Test everything in browsers that work first
* Set up separate stylesheets for IE so you don't have to use hacks
Those points make life much easier in the battle against IE's rendering
issues.
*Joseph R. B. Taylor*
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Custom Web Design Development/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
www.sitesbyjoe.com http://www.sitesbyjoe.com
Kepler Gelotte wrote:
Hi Susie,
I am not an expert by any means. I joined this group to learn from
others and get some tips. I try to tackle other people’s problems
because it s a great way to learn and hopefully I can help someone out
in the process. I have read a number of books on CSS (and other web
related topics) and found the best explanation of the CSS model for me
was in “CSS Mastery Advanced Web Standards Solutions” by Andy Budd.
A couple of techniques I use when debugging:
1) put a border around the problem area and surrounding or enclosing
blocks using “border: solid red 1px;”
2) remove HTML and/or CSS chunks to try to isolate the problem.
Sometimes by removing some HTML the problem goes away then that tells
me where the issue lies.
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Kepler
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Susie Gardner-Brown
*Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 7:07 PM
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Hi there Kepler
Thank you!
I believe it’s OK now.
I would really like to ask you how you know all this – how you keep it
in your head?!! Do you have pages and pages of stuff like this written
down, or what?!!!
For example: about making nav buttons clickable in IE7: why does the
container div need to be ‘position: relative” for IE7? And what if
there wasn’t a container div? Would that make it not work at all?!
I really need to get a handle on how to keep all these things ‘known’
to me! I’ve got a quite good book – The CSS Anthology, by Rachel
Andrews. But it’s pre-IE7 ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be great!
Thanks again ... :)
- susie
On 15/5/07 6:37 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you
define It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited { /* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited { /* instead of #level2nav li a */
Regards,
Kepler
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RE: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:36:17 -0400, Kepler Gelotte wrote:
1) put a border around the problem area and surrounding or enclosing blocks
using
border: solid red 1px;
But be aware that a border can alter the layout. (By trapping margins
that normally escape for example.)
My preference is to add colored backgrounds to the main blocks.
Viz:
#content {background: #ccf;}
#header {background: #fcf;}
#sidebar {background: #ffc;}
I put these at the end of the main style sheet where I can delete
them easily when done.
Of course, this is just for IE, which I test last. When developing
the layout I find Firebug invaluable. It is the only tool I know that
shows you where the margins are. (Negative margins excepted.)
Cordially,
David
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:36:17 -0400, Kepler Gelotte wrote:
1) put a border around the problem area and surrounding or enclosing blocks
using
border: solid red 1px;
But be aware that a border can alter the layout. (By trapping margins
that normally escape for example.)
My preference is to add colored backgrounds to the main blocks.
Viz:
#content {background: #ccf;}
#header {background: #fcf;}
#sidebar {background: #ffc;}
I put these at the end of the main style sheet where I can delete
them easily when done.
Of course, this is just for IE, which I test last. When developing
the layout I find Firebug invaluable. It is the only tool I know that
shows you where the margins are. (Negative margins excepted.)
Cordially,
David
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem
Have just checked. Its not clickable at moment. I have deleted and cleared the cache etc. On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys! You are wonderful!! I would never have thought of that – and still have no idea why that would make a difference! I've changed it on the site and it's fine in IE7. If you want to give it one last look in IE6 that'd be wonderful (but I am sure I can find someone somewhere here at UQ with IE6 if you can't!) Thank you so much!! - susie On 14/5/07 1:43 PM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, for me too. sorry to say. However other pages are ok. also removing the image (for me in ie6) gets the first link (and not the others) working. and I'd have to say that that has me beat. and after further investigation removing the margin-bottom: -10px gets it working - S On 14/05/07, *John Faulds* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the links on the calendar that don't work - it's the links in the left nav. Not sure why but it's something to do with the h2 because taking it out fixes the problem. On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 +1000, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn't starting till after the end of the leftnav div – ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don't use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [WSG] IE6 problem
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you define
It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited {/* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited {/* instead of #level2nav li
a */
Regards,
Kepler
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Hi there Kepler
Thank you!
I believe it¹s OK now.
I would really like to ask you how you know all this how you keep it in
your head?!! Do you have pages and pages of stuff like this written down, or
what?!!!
For example: about making nav buttons clickable in IE7: why does the
container div need to be position: relative² for IE7? And what if there
wasn¹t a container div? Would that make it not work at all?!
I really need to get a handle on how to keep all these things known¹ to me!
I¹ve got a quite good book The CSS Anthology, by Rachel Andrews. But it¹s
pre-IE7 ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be great!
Thanks again ... :)
- susie
On 15/5/07 6:37 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you define
It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited { /* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited {/* instead of #level2nav li a
*/
Regards,
Kepler
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Hi,
I am like you merely trying to keep a grasp of the situation
I have glanced over this article today
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/10/70-expert-ideas-for-better-css-coding/
featuring some ideas from Rachel Andrews.
and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but its still not clickable in IE6
- S
On 15/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there Kepler
Thank you!
I believe it's OK now.
I would really like to ask you how you know all this – how you keep it in
your head?!! Do you have pages and pages of stuff like this written down, or
what?!!!
For example: about making nav buttons clickable in IE7: why does the
container div need to be 'position: relative for IE7? And what if there
wasn't a container div? Would that make it not work at all?!
I really need to get a handle on how to keep all these things 'known' to
me! I've got a quite good book – The CSS Anthology, by Rachel Andrews. But
it's pre-IE7 ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be great!
Thanks again ... :)
- susie
On 15/5/07 6:37 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you
define It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited { /* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited {/* instead of #level2nav
li a */
Regards,
Kepler
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem - more general
Sigh ... !!!
Well, apart from that -
Thanks for the link. That looks really useful!
Cheers
susie
On 15/5/07 9:32 AM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
I am like you merely trying to keep a grasp of the situation
I have glanced over this article today
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/10/70-expert-ideas-for-better-css-codi
ng/
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/05/10/70-expert-ideas-for-better-css-cod
ing/
featuring some ideas from Rachel Andrews.
and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but its still not clickable in IE6
- S
On 15/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there Kepler
Thank you!
I believe it's OK now.
I would really like to ask you how you know all this how you keep it in
your head?!! Do you have pages and pages of stuff like this written down, or
what?!!!
For example: about making nav buttons clickable in IE7: why does the
container div need to be 'position: relative for IE7? And what if there
wasn't a container div? Would that make it not work at all?!
I really need to get a handle on how to keep all these things 'known' to me!
I've got a quite good book The CSS Anthology, by Rachel Andrews. But it's
pre-IE7 ...
Any thoughts, suggestions would be great!
Thanks again ... :)
- susie
On 15/5/07 6:37 AM, Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Susan,
To make the navigation buttons clickable in IE7 you need to define the
container as position: relative:
#container {
position: relative;
}
Also the pseudo links should be defined for :link and :visited if you define
It for :hover. Try using these for the navigation definitions:
#leftNav a:link, #leftNav a:visited { /* instead of #leftNav a */
#level2nav a:link, #level2nav a:visited {/* instead of #level2nav li
a */
Regards,
Kepler
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[WSG] IE6 problem
Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 problem
Hi,
something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!)
and always when you least need it :)
you could try
textarea {
margin-left: -200px; /* though this would be best in an
IE-fixit.cssstylesheet using ie conditional comments */
width: 70%;
height: 12em;
font-family: helvetica, arial, geneva, sans-serif;
}
and the calendar is clickable for me in both firefox and inferior explorer
of course - someone may propose a more appropriate solution.
- S
On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and
that's what she said. Obviously something else for her!
And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!)
However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the
textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!)
Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I
may
I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong?
And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not
clickable?
- susie
On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the
same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems
in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and
not
with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in
the left nav are clickable.
You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend
per
fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each
textarea should be in a label tag instead.
On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi again
Still on the same website ...
Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting
till
after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is
fine
in
IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages
concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top
of
the content area.
Example pages:
http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html
Or
http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html
Anyone know what the fix is for this?
I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the
individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget
them
if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!!
Cheers
susie
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OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 problem
Thanks Sam ...
I guess I'll leave my (br clear all) fix on the page but hopefully will
remember about your suggestion for another time!
Calendar is clickable for me too on Mac (Firefox and Safari) and PC (IE7).
Not sure about IE6 though ... I feel sure there must be some conditional
comments fix for that, but god knows what!!
Thanks for your response ... :)
Cheers
susie
On 14/5/07 12:39 PM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!)
and always when you least need it :)
you could try
textarea {
margin-left: -200px; /* though this would be best in an IE-fixit.css
stylesheet using ie conditional comments */
width: 70%;
height: 12em;
font-family: helvetica, arial, geneva, sans-serif;
}
and the calendar is clickable for me in both firefox and inferior explorer
of course - someone may propose a more appropriate solution.
- S
On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and
that's what she said. Obviously something else for her!
And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!)
However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the
textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!)
Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may
I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong?
And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not
clickable?
- susie
On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the
same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems
in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not
with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in
the left nav are clickable.
You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per
fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each
textarea should be in a label tag instead.
On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi again
Still on the same website ...
Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting
till
after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine
in
IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages
concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top
of
the content area.
Example pages:
http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html
Or
http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html
Anyone know what the fix is for this?
I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the
individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget
them
if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!!
Cheers
susie
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Re: [WSG] IE6 problem
works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE6 problem
No, sorry, that wasn¹t what I meant. (Unclear I know!) When you¹re on the calendar pages there are links in a level 2 menu GIFs, TIPs and Cultural Calendar. I think that John was meaning that those links weren¹t clickable. (But maybe I¹m wrong?!) They work for me as I said, but ... http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html - susie On 14/5/07 12:58 PM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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It's not the links on the calendar that don't work - it's the links in the left nav. Not sure why but it's something to do with the h2 because taking it out fixes the problem. On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 +1000, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Yep, for me too. sorry to say. However other pages are ok. also removing the image (for me in ie6) gets the first link (and not the others) working. and I'd have to say that that has me beat. and after further investigation removing the margin-bottom: -10px gets it working - S On 14/05/07, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the links on the calendar that don't work - it's the links in the left nav. Not sure why but it's something to do with the h2 because taking it out fixes the problem. On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 +1000, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Guys! You are wonderful!! I would never have thought of that and still have no idea why that would make a difference! I¹ve changed it on the site and it¹s fine in IE7. If you want to give it one last look in IE6 that¹d be wonderful (but I am sure I can find someone somewhere here at UQ with IE6 if you can¹t!) Thank you so much!! - susie On 14/5/07 1:43 PM, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, for me too. sorry to say. However other pages are ok. also removing the image (for me in ie6) gets the first link (and not the others) working. and I'd have to say that that has me beat. and after further investigation removing the margin-bottom: -10px gets it working - S On 14/05/07, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not the links on the calendar that don't work - it's the links in the left nav. Not sure why but it's something to do with the h2 because taking it out fixes the problem. On Mon, 14 May 2007 12:58:37 +1000, Sam Sherlock [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: works fine in ff, opera ie on windows 2000 I click the beige links and get pdf's - S On 14/05/07, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I've sorted out the textarea problem! Now it's just the links on the calendar page that aren't clickable ... ?! - susie On 14/5/07 12:04 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks again John. I had to rely on someone else to tell me about IE6 and that's what she said. Obviously something else for her! And thanks for your info on my incorrect use of forms (!) However ...Now that I've changed the tags, and hopefully aligned the textareas, something else has cropped up. (Doesn't it always?!) Now the last textarea on the form page is aligning right, and try what I may I can't bring it back. Can you see where I'm doing something wrong? And re the links on the calendar page - any thoughts on why they're not clickable? - susie On 14/5/07 11:05 AM, John Faulds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not seeing the problems as you describe - the content appears in the same place in FF IE6 on both pages. There are couple of other problems in IE6 though: on the form page, your textareas are aligned right and not with the text above them and on the calendar page, none of the links in the left nav are clickable. You're also using legends incorrectly. There should only be one legend per fieldset which describes all the fields. The text associated with each textarea should be in a label tag instead. On Mon, 14 May 2007 10:27:46 +1000, Susie Gardner-Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again Still on the same website ... Apparently on a couple of pages in IE6, the main content isn¹t starting till after the end of the leftnav div ie. Further down the page. It is fine in IE7 and Firefox. And fine on Firefox and Safari on the Mac. The pages concerned have either got a form, or else a large graphic near the top of the content area. Example pages: http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/feedback.html Or http://www.tedi.uq.edu.au/CDIP/calendar/January.html Anyone know what the fix is for this? I wish there was one website where you could go and look up all the individual fixes for things ... I tend to learn things, and then forget them if I don¹t use them again quickly, so have to keep asking!! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Tyssen Design
