Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[uerusuboyo]

Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for most 
people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found, however, 
that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says nothing 
whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on the breath 
entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better than counting 
because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus away from the body. 
Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality rather than concepts 
(such as numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

[Zen] Peter Owen Jones - Abraxus Hex (part one) - YouTube

[Merle Lester]

interesting story ..part 1... however i nervously think merle..is this zen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJQwZfNr10

[Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[Merle Lester]

lest we forget... 

this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle



Subject: Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu 2o1o.avi - 
YouTube
>
>
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Bill!]

Mike,

Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique, at 
least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
1.  Counting the breath:
   1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
   1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
2.  Following the breath:
   2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
   2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!

...Bill!



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for 
> most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found, 
> however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says 
> nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on the 
> breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better than 
> counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus away from 
> the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality rather than 
> concepts (such as numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail 
> for iPad
>






Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[uerusuboyo]

Bill!,When you put shikantaza into practice, is there a conscious 
decision to drop the following of the breath which leads into shikantaza, or 
does it just naturally cease? When I enter the jhanas/samadhi, I find the 
breath becomes so fine/subtle that it seems to have stopped. This creates a 
very pleasurable sensation and switching focus onto this feeling is what takes 
me into the first jhana. I'm wondering if your shikantaza is anything like 
that? MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad

Re: [Zen] Peter Owen Jones - Abraxus Hex (part one) - YouTube

[Eccentrics.R.US]

Merle

i did listen to the Tube, though i have never heard of the author,
and he does say good things that sound deep and reflective,
in all honesty i find it based in his own church and scripture
beliefs while zen values meditation and intuition rather then
ritual worship or study of scriptures.

There are many practitioners who will say Zen can be anything, or
Zen cannot be pinned down to one way of thinking, but i steer clear
of mainstream church or religion based beliefs.

M


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Merle Lester wrote:

>
>
>
> interesting story ..part 1... however i nervously think merle..is this
> zen?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJQwZfNr10
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Merle Lester]

 nervous nellie...says: what a good idea..merle



  
Bill!,

When you put shikantaza into practice, is there a conscious decision to drop 
the following of the breath which leads into shikantaza, or does it just 
naturally cease? When I enter the jhanas/samadhi, I find the breath becomes so 
fine/subtle that it seems to have stopped. This creates a very pleasurable 
sensation and switching focus onto this feeling is what takes me into the first 
jhana. I'm wondering if your shikantaza is anything like that? 

Mike


Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad 




 From:  Bill! ; 
To:  ; 
Subject:  Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie 
Sent:  Mon, Jul 29, 2013 11:33:57 AM 


  
Mike,

Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique, at 
least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
1.  Counting the breath:
1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
2.  Following the breath:
2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for 
> most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found, 
> however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says 
> nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on the 
> breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better than 
> counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus away from 
> the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality rather than 
> concepts (such as numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail 
> for iPad
>

 
 

Re: [Zen] Peter Owen Jones - Abraxus Hex (part one) - YouTube

[Merle Lester]

 if you care to google rev peter owen jones you will find he is not a fixed 
rigid mind ... open to all... he did a series 80 religions around the 
world..merle
  
Merle
 
i did listen to the Tube, though i have never heard of the author,
and he does say good things that sound deep and reflective,
in all honesty i find it based in his own church and scripture
beliefs while zen values meditation and intuition rather then
ritual worship or study of scriptures.  
 
There are many practitioners who will say Zen can be anything, or
Zen cannot be pinned down to one way of thinking, but i steer clear
of mainstream church or religion based beliefs.
 
M



On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Merle Lester  wrote:


>
>
>
>
>interesting story ..part 1... however i nervously think merle..is this zen?
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJQwZfNr10
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>

 

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Eccentrics.R.US]

re shikantaza,

i have had this experience and when new to sitting meditation i freaked out
a bit and became afraid i would just
stop breathing.  After more practice the realization came that just as i do
not control the blood that courses through
my body or cause my own heart to beat i was safe from the mistaken belief
that my breath would just stop and i
would topple over and die.

i realize you are asking something different then what i posted about my
own practice,
and with my own practice, meditation became and becomes more fluid with
less thinking about form or outcome.

M



On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:01 AM,  wrote:

>
>
> Bill!,
>
> When you put shikantaza into practice, is there a conscious decision to
> drop the following of the breath which leads into shikantaza, or does it
> just naturally cease? When I enter the jhanas/samadhi, I find the breath
> becomes so fine/subtle that it seems to have stopped. This creates a very
> pleasurable sensation and switching focus onto this feeling is what takes
> me into the first jhana. I'm wondering if your shikantaza is anything like
> that?
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>
>  --
> * From: * Bill! ;
> * To: * ;
> * Subject: * Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie
> * Sent: * Mon, Jul 29, 2013 11:33:57 AM
>
>
>
> Mike,
>
> Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique,
> at least as it was taught to me. The full techniques is:
> 1. Counting the breath:
> 1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
> 1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
> 2. Following the breath:
> 2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
> 2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
> 3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!
>
> ...Bill!
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
> >
> > Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter'
> for most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have
> found, however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras
> says nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus
> on the breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much
> better than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our
> focus away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into
> reality rather than concepts (such as
> numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> >
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Peter Owen Jones - Abraxus Hex (part one) - YouTube

[Eccentrics.R.US]

Yes, i just did google peter jones.  i have not heard of the film * *
but have bookmarked wiki page and will look up the info on him this
afternoon.

M





On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Merle Lester wrote:

>
>
>
>  if you care to google rev peter owen jones you will find he is not a
> fixed rigid mind ... open to all... he did a series 80 religions around the
> world..merle
>
> Merle
>
> i did listen to the Tube, though i have never heard of the author,
> and he does say good things that sound deep and reflective,
> in all honesty i find it based in his own church and scripture
> beliefs while zen values meditation and intuition rather then
> ritual worship or study of scriptures.
>
> There are many practitioners who will say Zen can be anything, or
> Zen cannot be pinned down to one way of thinking, but i steer clear
> of mainstream church or religion based beliefs.
>
> M
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>
>
>
>
> interesting story ..part 1... however i nervously think merle..is this
> zen?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYJQwZfNr10
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Eccentrics.R.US]

uerusuboyo replied " I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for
most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found,
however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says
nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on
the breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better
than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus
away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality
rather than concepts (such as numbers)"

i do want to reply that when i started focusing on body sensations during
meditation instead of counting, i felt more successful in my meditation.
it was a brand new concept to me and if i remember correctly from
instruction is that body sensations cause the intrusive or running stream of
thoughts and if a thought does arise during meditation, gently turn away
from thought and see what the body is experiencing, be it tension,
a slumping in the posture, a tightening of the hands or wrists or heaviness
in stomach or chest. i have been using this as my meditation for over
a year now but it is the first time i have heard of someone else that is
familiar with the practice of it.

Thank you

M


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bill!  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique,
> at least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
> 1.  Counting the breath:
>1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
>1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
> 2.  Following the breath:
>2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
>2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
> 3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!
>
> ...Bill!
>
>
>
> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
> >
> > Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter'
> for most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have
> found, however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras
> says nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus
> on the breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much
> better than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our
> focus away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into
> reality rather than concepts (such as
> numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[覺妙精明 （JMJM）]

Hi M,

In Chan practice, instead of noticing "body sensations", we actually ask 
our practitioners to focus on Ten major chakras (acupressure points) 
inside of our body.


This not only redirects our mind, connects to the state of being of our 
body, also rejuvenating our major organs, so that we could eliminate our 
physical hindrances.


If you are interested, we offer free classes of this technique online at 
http://www.chanliving.org


JM
Ordained Teacher of Chan


On 7/29/2013 6:47 AM, Eccentrics.R.US wrote:
uerusuboyo replied " I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' 
for most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I 
have found, however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in 
the sutras says nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. 
Instead, we just focus on the breath entering and leaving the 
nostrils. This works for me much better than counting because counting 
can soon become a mantra taking our focus away from the body. Actual 
bodily sensations are our doorway into reality rather than concepts 
(such as numbers)"
i do want to reply that when i started focusing on body sensations 
during meditation instead of counting, i felt more successful in my 
meditation.
it was a brand new concept to me and if i remember correctly from 
instruction is that body sensations cause the intrusive or running 
stream of
thoughts and if a thought does arise during meditation, gently turn 
away from thought and see what the body is experiencing, be it tension,
a slumping in the posture, a tightening of the hands or wrists or 
heaviness in stomach or chest. i have been using this as my meditation 
for over
a year now but it is the first time i have heard of someone else that 
is familiar with the practice of it.

Thank you
M


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bill! > wrote:


Mike,

Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching
technique, at least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
1.  Counting the breath:
   1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
   1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
2.  Following the breath:
   2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
   2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!

...Bill!



--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and
butter' for most people starting out (and also for seasoned
meditators). I have found, however, that the meditation on the
breath as taught in the sutras says nothing whatsoever about
counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on the breath
entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better
than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our
focus away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway
into reality rather than concepts (such as
numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>






Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read
or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links


zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Eccentrics.R.US]

Hello everyone and thank you for the welcome,
it has been over 10 years since i was in groups
at yahoo.  i belonged to a yahoo sangha group
way back in 2005 that has since closed down.

If you have any suggestions about my posting
correctly, please don't hesitate to let me know.

This is my first foray back into the groups and
i am pleased to meet you

M


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Eccentrics.R.US
wrote:

> uerusuboyo replied " I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for
> most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found,
> however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says
> nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on
> the breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better
> than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus
> away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality
> rather than concepts (such as numbers)"
>
> i do want to reply that when i started focusing on body sensations during
> meditation instead of counting, i felt more successful in my meditation.
> it was a brand new concept to me and if i remember correctly from
> instruction is that body sensations cause the intrusive or running stream of
> thoughts and if a thought does arise during meditation, gently turn away
> from thought and see what the body is experiencing, be it tension,
> a slumping in the posture, a tightening of the hands or wrists or
> heaviness in stomach or chest. i have been using this as my meditation for
> over
> a year now but it is the first time i have heard of someone else that is
> familiar with the practice of it.
>
> Thank you
>
> M
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:33 AM, Bill!  wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique,
>> at least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
>> 1.  Counting the breath:
>>1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
>>1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
>> 2.  Following the breath:
>>2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
>>2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
>> 3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!
>>
>> ...Bill!
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>> >
>> > Hal, Bill!,I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter'
>> for most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have
>> found, however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras
>> says nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus
>> on the breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much
>> better than counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our
>> focus away from the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into
>> reality rather than concepts (such as
>> numbers).MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are
>> reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Zen] Return to Emptiness: from nervous nellie

[Bill!]

Mike,

Shikantaza is like that.  It does seem to be something you 'slide' into, and 
although afterwards you can say that one moment you're not there and the next 
moment you are, there is no awareness of the transition when it happens.

...Bill!

--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Bill!,When you put shikantaza into practice, is there a conscious 
> decision to drop the following of the breath which leads into shikantaza, or 
> does it just naturally cease? When I enter the jhanas/samadhi, I find the 
> breath becomes so fine/subtle that it seems to have stopped. This creates a 
> very pleasurable sensation and switching focus onto this feeling is what 
> takes me into the first jhana. I'm wondering if your shikantaza is anything 
> like that? MikeSent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>






Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[larry maher]

I should watch Zorba again.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> lest we forget...
>
> this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle
>
>
> *Subject: **Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu
> 2o1o.avi - YouTube*
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>



-- 
*Larry Maher*

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[Eccentrics.R.US]

have never seen the movie, having a hard time understanding his words,
maybe i'll look up the book first...

M


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher  wrote:

>
>
> I should watch Zorba again.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> lest we forget...
>>
>> this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle
>>
>>
>> *Subject: **Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu
>> 2o1o.avi - YouTube*
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[Merle Lester]

 film is the way to go..somethings are best in film..and this is one of those 
... merle


  
have never seen the movie, having a hard time understanding his words, maybe 
i'll look up the book first...
 
M



On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher  wrote:


>
>
>I should watch Zorba again.
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester  wrote:
>
> 
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>lest we forget... 
>>
>>
>>this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Subject: Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu 2o1o.avi - 
>>YouTube
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>-- 
>Larry Maher 
>
>
>

 

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[larry maher]

I vaguely remember it. Guess people saw more in it than I did? Seven years
in Tibet wasn't bad. Bunch of others I can't think of.


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Eccentrics.R.US
wrote:

> **
>
>
> have never seen the movie, having a hard time understanding his words,
> maybe i'll look up the book first...
>
> M
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I should watch Zorba again.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> lest we forget...
>>>
>>> this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject: **Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu
>>> 2o1o.avi - YouTube*
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Larry Maher*
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
*Larry Maher*

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[Chris Austin-Lane]

The book "Zorba the Greek" I believe is the origin of the phrase "The Full
Catastrophe" of the Mindfullness-Based Stress Reduction book of that name.
 I never saw the movie or read the book, although I did enjoy the
Kabat-Zinn book "The Full Catastrophe."

--Chris

Thanks,

--Chris
ch...@austin-lane.net
+1-301-270-6524


On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM, larry maher  wrote:

>
>
> I vaguely remember it. Guess people saw more in it than I did? Seven years
> in Tibet wasn't bad. Bunch of others I can't think of.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Eccentrics.R.US <
> halatmothers...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> have never seen the movie, having a hard time understanding his words,
>> maybe i'll look up the book first...
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I should watch Zorba again.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester wrote:
>>>
 **




 lest we forget...

 this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle


 *Subject: **Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu
 2o1o.avi - YouTube*


 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA















>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Larry Maher*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Larry Maher*
>
>
> 
>

Re: [Zen] Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek

[larry maher]

You have read the 'bible' of yoga haven't you? "The Autobiography of a
Yogi." Unbelievably good. Also Julien Jaynes' "The Breakdown of
Conciousness and the Bicameral Brain." Also Zen and the Art of Archery and
Zen and Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" and anything that Yogani from
AYP.com has written. :)

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:

> **
>
>
> The book "Zorba the Greek" I believe is the origin of the phrase "The Full
> Catastrophe" of the Mindfullness-Based Stress Reduction book of that name.
>  I never saw the movie or read the book, although I did enjoy the
> Kabat-Zinn book "The Full Catastrophe."
>
> --Chris
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Chris
> ch...@austin-lane.net
> +1-301-270-6524
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:48 PM, larry maher  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I vaguely remember it. Guess people saw more in it than I did? Seven
>> years in Tibet wasn't bad. Bunch of others I can't think of.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Eccentrics.R.US
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>>  have never seen the movie, having a hard time understanding his words,
>>> maybe i'll look up the book first...
>>>
>>> M
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 12:18 PM, larry maher wrote:
>>>


 I should watch Zorba again.


 On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:02 AM, Merle Lester 
 wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
>   lest we forget...
>
> this in my books is the pure zen zen zen experience..merle
>
>
>  *Subject: **Movie trailer for Zorba the Greek(1964) by Anna Oproiu
> 2o1o.avi - YouTube*
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz7d4i3xWA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


 --
 *Larry Maher*



>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Larry Maher*
>>
>>
>>
>  
>



-- 
*Larry Maher*

[Zen] INJUSTICE FOR AWAKENING

[SURESH JAGADEESAN]

Dear all,

Yesterday night I had a dream. I went with my family to some hill
temple, there I parked my car and went inside the temple, and that
temple appeared very strange way of architect. After worshipping we
came to car there I saw back door of my car appeared broken and stuck
to some glue tape. I was so angry. I asked the other family who is
just getting down the car. One man said, it is happened because of us.
Then I asked him to pay for it, they did not listen, they all climbed
on another tempo and pushing off. I was shouting loud, how can you do
this? I was thinking, if I hit another car or bike, then I need to
pay, now someone damaged my car for that also I need to pay. Why it is
one sided? why this injustice to me always?

Then suddenly I woke up, then realised it is dream only and I am at my
home sleeping in my bedroom and my car is at my home potico safe.Then
a smile came on me,

Then this thinking came, like wise this so called waking life is also
a dream, and all those suffering and injustice is god's trick/play to
wake us up from our dream.

Those who do bad for us actually doing good only, because it is what
makes us to wake up from our dream.

So be thankful to life, whatever it gives.

Best wishes
Suresh




Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
(Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
zen_forum-dig...@yahoogroups.com 
zen_forum-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
zen_forum-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/