Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
Jim Fulton escribió: ZClasses are a feature that support through-the-web development. Many people have found them useful in the past, but they have some significant deficiencies, including: - They can't be managed with file-system tools, especially revision control systems like CVS and subversion. - They don't work well with Python development tools, like profilers and debugger. - They aren't being actively maintained. Most serious Zope developers stopped using them a long time ago and are frustrated that we still expend resources keeping them around. For example, the release of Zope 2.8 has been delayed by the requirement of getting ZClasses working with Zope 2.8. We could choose to deprecate ZClasses. If we deprecated them in Zope 2.8, they would still work in Zope 2.8 and Zope 2.9, but their support would be removed in Zope 2.10. Would anyone be upset if this happened? Jim My +1 for ZClasses deprecation And +1 for DTML deprecation Try to keep Zope simple Simple = GOOD Simple = EASY Simple = BUGLESS Simple = QUICK ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Get all user folder instances
Hi
I'm try to know the complet list of users in a Zope point with this
structure:
root
acl_users (user folder)
Folder1
acl_users (Pluggable user folder)
Folder2
acl_users (Another user folder)
Object1
Object2
how could I retrive the list of user folders (in this case: /acl_users,
/Folder1/acl_users and /Folder1/Folder2/acl_users)
It would be perfect something like: Object1.superValues('User Folder')
But this only retrive User Folder's not Pluggable user folder's nor
Another user folder's
Is there any kind of method to query for security list of users?
Thanks a lot!!
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Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
Chris Withers escribió: Well, you know what I'm gonna say... +1 for their demise. +1 for DTML going too, oops, wait, Andreas said not to bring that up ;-) cheers, Chris Jim Fulton wrote: ZClasses are a feature that support through-the-web development. Many people have found them useful in the past, but they have some significant deficiencies, including: - They can't be managed with file-system tools, especially revision control systems like CVS and subversion. - They don't work well with Python development tools, like profilers and debugger. - They aren't being actively maintained. Most serious Zope developers stopped using them a long time ago and are frustrated that we still expend resources keeping them around. For example, the release of Zope 2.8 has been delayed by the requirement of getting ZClasses working with Zope 2.8. We could choose to deprecate ZClasses. If we deprecated them in Zope 2.8, they would still work in Zope 2.8 and Zope 2.9, but their support would be removed in Zope 2.10. Would anyone be upset if this happened? Jim Yep! Don't talk about DTML or you will be punished (sorry Andreas I can't resist myself, hehe, obviously I'm joking) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
AM Thomas escribió: I agree that ZClasses are not good to use. However, I have a product based on ZClasses that I wrote several years ago (after reading the printed Zope book - doh!), and it's working well for several of my clients. If future versions of Zope were to not support it, that would be a huge problem for me... unless there were some utility that would allow me to export my ZClasses to a regular file-system product. Thanks, AM ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Perhaps will be a good choice to make ZClasses as an installable product (I don't know if this is possible or not ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate ZClasses?
Arenz, Ralph escribió: SOS This would mean a disaster for us. We've created a lot products using ZClasses in production environment (internet,intranet,eai and so on) since zope-2.1.4. In short our complete developement in Zope is heavily based on ZClasses. We plan to use ZClasses in the future, too. For us ZClasses are a essential part of zope and they works very well. It is quite impossible for us to migrate all our Products to python-products or somethong else and i guess that this is not wanted by you!? I think that going away from ZClasses will let many other people with legacy-software running in the same problems. regards ralph ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Hi Can you explain why you can't migrate from ZClasses to python-products? Perhaps the best solution will be create a machinery to migrate ZClasses Thanks! ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Does anyone care whether we deprecate
David H escribió: Andrew Milton wrote: I think people on this list need to realize that eventually, the direction of any significantly large Open Source project is hijacked by the relatively small number of people actually doing the work. The reasons for this are many-fold, but, normally come down to a lack of communication between the developers and the users, which is realized in a lack of understanding by the developers of what the users want. This for the most part isn't generally a problem, until, the developers start to do things "for the user's own good", like remove features that are "kludgey", or a "hack", or , which generally means either noone wants to work on it, or some other change caused it to break, and noone wants to fix it. Now to the credit of the Zope guys, they actually poll the users to find out, rather than just announce the demise of something. However, in general once you add a feature, you can be guaranteed, that somewhere, someone is using it, so removing it will always cause a problem. So there will always be an uproar when you poll. You're never going to be able to reduce the feature set between point releases without upsetting some group of people. So why don't we stop all this nonsense now, and just agree, that you're never going to do that d8) You have Zope 3 to remove all the stuff you hate d8) In my opinion if you change something, it's your responsibility to fix the resulting breakage. That's part of your responsibiliity to the rest of the community (i.e. the [mostly non-paying] customers). If you don't think you have this responsibility to us, then you should work on your own version of Zope, where you're not impacting anyone else. For the record, I hate ZClasses... d8) I wish Terri Shiavo had as much compassion as ZClasses. ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Perhaps a unfortunated comment ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Keyword index search
Hi all
I have a ZCatalog object with a keywordindex called keywords
I would like to search some objects with keywords ['k1', 'k2', k3',
'k4'] for that I use:
return context.catalog({'keywords': {'query': ['k1', 'k2', k3', 'k4'],
'operator': 'and'}})
but these query returns objects with keyword = ['k2', 'k3'] (for me
incorrect, I would like to find objects with *all* keywords
How can I make these kind of querys?
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Re: [Zope] Keyword index search
Dieter Maurer escribió:
Garito wrote at 2005-5-20 12:41 +0200:
...
I have a ZCatalog object with a keywordindex called keywords
I would like to search some objects with keywords ['k1', 'k2', k3',
'k4'] for that I use:
return context.catalog({'keywords': {'query': ['k1', 'k2', k3', 'k4'],
'operator': 'and'}})
but these query returns objects with keyword = ['k2', 'k3'] (for me
incorrect, I would like to find objects with *all* keywords
How can I make these kind of querys?
A long standing bug in "KeywordIndex"...
Maybe, you give my "Managable KeywordIndex" a try
(part of "ManagableIndex").
I cannot promiss you that
"ManagableIndex" is free of bugs but I definitely can
promiss you that a bug resulting in wrong search results
is fixed much much more quickly than in the Zope core :-)
<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>
Hi Dieter!
I can't understand the lack of concern you talk about unresolved bugs in
Zope
It seems Zope is not a serious tool. Imagine you want to buy a car but
the seller says: in these model there are a bug on the brake system but
I you put these extra no problem
How can I convince my customers to use Zope with these kind of
searchable information?
I think the bigger problem of applications like SO, Application servers
and so on are they only think to put more and more funcionality rather
that make it's code better and simple
Zope has a very good plug-in machinery. Why don't we use it instead of
put more and more funcionality? Why I need, for example, five on 2.8 if
I don't use it?
I know that five is on 2.8 because you need to integrate it on zope to
migrate to Z3 but I think its better for all us if zope still remain
simple, quickly and bugs free instead of a very big application server
with a lot of features and a lot of lines of code (that they can fail)
Do you know basecamp? They build simple applications that work
del.icio.us? The same rules
Flirck? idem, and so on
Less is more
Thanks a lot
PD: sorry but these mail is only an opinion. Zope development team could
do what they want, logically
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Re: [Zope] Keyword index search
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2005-5-21 13:29 +0200: ... Dieter Maurer escribió: ... A long standing bug in "KeywordIndex"... Maybe, you give my "Managable KeywordIndex" a try (part of "ManagableIndex"). ... I can't understand the lack of concern you talk about unresolved bugs in Zope I am a big Zope user who also files occational bug reports and patches. However, I cannot fix bugs in Zope directly (due to excessive demands with respect to patents, I am not willing to sign the contributors agreement). I am not very concerned about unresolved bugs because: * Zope is open source. I can fix any bug which seriously hampers my work -- not in the public Zope sources but in our sources of Zope. To keep upgrades possible despite local modifications, we maintain Zope in a source code control system (CVS currently). Poor. 1 Zope developer, 1 Zope version, 1000 Zope developers, 1000 Zope versions? * I am a pragmatist. When I know there is a problem and I know how to avoid it, I just avoid it. If I know where the problem is I report it to fix the bug Especially, I am no longer concerned with bugs in Zope's indexes since I have "ManagableIndex". I believe "ManagableIndex" it is more flexible, more efficient and has less bugs than the stock Zope indexes. Why 2 ways?: 1.- Official one doesn't work 2.- Unofficial one who needs some duplicated dependency (OFolder seem very similar to Ordered folder don't you thing?) If I can't maintain my system clear and simple I change my application server: easy It seems Zope is not a serious tool. Imagine you want to buy a car but the seller says: in these model there are a bug on the brake system but I you put these extra no problem The keyword index bug is far less serious than a bug in the brake system of a car. I think, I wrote about 5 times "a long standing bug" in the last two to three years. There are apparently not that many people concerned about this bug. Perhaps but *your product doesn't work properly* any diference if you was a brake system producer (here I'm talking with the keyword index original developer) How can I convince my customers to use Zope with these kind of searchable information? You tell them that you can fix serious problems yourself because Zope is open source -- if there is not already a fix around (I told you that "Managable KeywordIndex" does not have this problem). Anyway (I see I can't do anything to change your way of life) Another question for the main Zope developers group Did you plan to make some make-up to simplify Zope? In my opinion Zope has at least one competitive advantage: the fresh concept about objects but these kind of advantage is lost when the code grows and grows Thanks PD: I don't want to create controversy. I'm developing some code and the *MAIN* feature is **MINIMUM** -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Keyword index search
Andreas Jung escribió: --On Sonntag, 22. Mai 2005 16:54 Uhr +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Poor. 1 Zope developer, 1 Zope version, 1000 Zope developers, 1000 Zope versions? People do often backport port from their private repository back to the official one. This is true for Dieter, myself and other developers. But not every extension from private repositories will make it back into the official repository either because the extensions are too specific or just because people don't have time (and interest) to perform backporting work. If I know where the problem is I report it to fix the bug As I wrote this bug is already in the Zope collector. Anyway (I see I can't do anything to change your way of life) Another question for the main Zope developers group Did you plan to make some make-up to simplify Zope? What do you have in mind with "make-up to simplify Zope"? -aj Identify and acotated the duplicate classes (I know you are a fan of DTML, for example, but I think they aport a duplicate functionality with python scripts and page templates) to unify in one Change obsolete classes to the new and better builds (For example, Dieter says Managable Index is better for keyword index. Why don't change it and put on the main distribution?) Those kind of things In my opinion, I persist, Zope has a main advantage: the OOP paradigm is implemented in a very fresh way and it's very simple but If it lost these advantages we have nothing to defend Why don't use Ruby for example (with Ruby on Rails or without it)? It's modern (if you compare it with python) and clear I need simple things because less code means less failure posibility and means quick code Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Keyword index search
Tres Seaver escribió:
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Garito wrote:
Dieter Maurer escribió:
Garito wrote at 2005-5-20 12:41 +0200:
...
I have a ZCatalog object with a keywordindex called keywords
I would like to search some objects with keywords ['k1', 'k2', k3',
'k4'] for that I use:
return context.catalog({'keywords': {'query': ['k1', 'k2', k3',
'k4'], 'operator': 'and'}})
but these query returns objects with keyword = ['k2', 'k3'] (for me
incorrect, I would like to find objects with *all* keywords
How can I make these kind of querys?
A long standing bug in "KeywordIndex"...
Maybe, you give my "Managable KeywordIndex" a try
(part of "ManagableIndex").
I cannot promiss you that
"ManagableIndex" is free of bugs but I definitely can
promiss you that a bug resulting in wrong search results
is fixed much much more quickly than in the Zope core :-)
<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope>
Hi Dieter!
I can't understand the lack of concern you talk about unresolved bugs in
Zope
It seems Zope is not a serious tool. Imagine you want to buy a car but
the seller says: in these model there are a bug on the brake system but
I you put these extra no problem
How can I convince my customers to use Zope with these kind of
searchable information?
The bug you encountered is sufficiently an "edge case" that it has not
gotten any attention from the people who could fix it. Agitating for it
on the list is likely to be less productive than contributing:
- Write one or more unit tests which demonstrates the failure (e.g.,
they fail with the current implementation).
- Implement the fix, such that the new tests pass without causing any
others to fail.
- Submit the patch, including both the test and the patched
implementation, as an attachment to the collector issue Andreas
pointed to: http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/889
Such bug reports get quicker attention, because:
- they demand less effort from the person with commit access to
understand the problem (even without the fix, writing the test case
would be valuable here).
- they show that the bug matters enough to somebody to have invested
the effort.
I have checked in a number of patches from Dieter in this way, which
means that Dieter is contributing to the "core" Zope code, even without
checkin access (which Dieter doesn't want to obtain).
Tres.
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All you say (Andreas, Dieter, Tres and Lennart) is very reasonable, in
my opinion with all your choices, I prefer try to solve the bug
I don't know if my python/zope skill is enought but if I don't try it I
never know my real skill
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Re: [Zope] DTML in Zope 2 vs Zope 3
Ismet Dere escribió: On 5/27/05, Hugo Ramos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 5/27/05, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AT? As in ArcheTypes? You ARE kidding right? I've never seen such bad code, and in particular, abuse of ZPT in my entire life... And DTML sux, you wanna use it, fine, that says something about you. Use ZClasses, Plone, AT and XUF at the same time while you're at it. Why not dig out LoginManager and ZPatterns too, just for good measure? Hell, why not just do us all a favour and switch to using Perl where you'll be s much happier, and everyone in the community will agree with you rather than trying to help you not shoot yourself in the foot ;-) Is it me or are you really pissed??? :-) At least give DTML some credit... It's what made Zope so popular in the first days because of easy and fast learning curve!!! Regards Hugo Yup, I completely agree with Hugo, dtml what made zope, zope. Chris probably has a point as an advanced user but zope still needs a lot of joe-beginners and their needs to be considered too. ismet -- Hugo Ramos - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Sorry but, in my opinion, acquisition make zope, zope, products make zope zope, python make zope, zope but DTML, in my opinion, remember, is only a product See ya -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Debugging a python routine
Dieter Maurer escribió: John Poltorak wrote at 2005-6-27 16:45 +0100: Can anyone suggest how I would go about debugging a Python routine like this through Zope? It depends what type of object you want to debug, how much money you are ready to invest and how much comfort you need. At one endpoint is "pdb" (the Python debugger): * part of Python's runtime libary (no costs) * archaic user interface, (almost) without any comfort * after code changes able to debug trusted code (and untrusted Python Scripts once you used the appropriate "allow_module" and "allow_class") if Zope runs in the foreground. The code change is adding a import pdb; pdb.set_trace() At another endpoint is e.g. the commercial (!) WingIDE: * costs money, needs installation * comfortable, menu driven user interface * debugging of trusted code and untrusted PythonScripts * no code changes necessary Hi all! Dieter: can you send us some info about debug PythonScripts with WingIDE? All: WingIDE is free if you develop open source. Rencently I ask them for some licences but I can't demostrate I'm working on open source and they send me 2 180 days licences (I have windows and mac plataforms). If you can demostrate you are developing open source (they only ask for the project's url) they send you permanent licences Cheers -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] A function like a FTP Object
Hi all I would like to create a product with a function called struct.xml I would like if I could access it via FTP because I would like editor integration I open the file via FTP and I save it via FTP and PUT_factory mechamism Can I make struct.xml accesible via a FTP file? Thanks!!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] A function like a FTP Object
Peter Bengtsson escribió:
Sure you can. Any object/method that is in Zope becomes available via FTP.
Some example code::
class MyProduct(Folder):
def struct_xml(self):
return "1"
def PUT(self, REQUEST, RESPONSE):
if not REQUEST.get('BODY'):
get_transaction.abort()
RESPONSE.setStatus(405)
else:
body = REQUEST.get('BODY')
self._save_struct_body(body)
RESPONSE.setStatus(204)
return RESPONSE
setattr(MyProduct, 'struct.xml', MyProduct.struct_xml)
On 7/3/05, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all
I would like to create a product with a function called struct.xml
I would like if I could access it via FTP because I would like editor
integration
I open the file via FTP and I save it via FTP and PUT_factory mechamism
Can I make struct.xml accesible via a FTP file?
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Hi!
does this work on a folder?
The struct.xml function is on a folder object and I would like
struct.xml as an object contained by the folder one
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[Zope] Why don't work?
Hi all!
I create a ZPT with this result:
action="http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar/";>
value="Links1" />
href="http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Editar/Links1";>Mis Cosas
href="http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/";>http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/
The original result has more with id="Links2", etc
that I delete for your confort (I think this don't modify the problem)
My question is why If I push Eliminar button don't submit the form to
the correct url (http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar)?
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Re: [Zope] A function like a FTP Object
Peter Bengtsson escribió: Hi! does this work on a folder? Sure it does. Did you understand any of my code? I subclassed it on the folder class. The struct.xml function is on a folder object and I would like struct.xml as an object contained by the folder one This is completely outside the zope management interface. Perhaps it is possible to override the PUT() function inside Zope but I doubt it. Look into writing your own python product. Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Yes, I think I understand your code but correct me if I get wrong: this code converts your folder in a file on the FTP server But what I need is to see the method like a file on the folder not the folder itself Did your code works like I need? THANKS!!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Why don't work?
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 6. Juli 2005 10:29:45 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My question is why If I push Eliminar button don't submit the form to the correct url (http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar)? What happens instead? Look at your Z2.log to figure out what is requested. -aj Hi Aj! this is the Z2.log modification after submit the form *192.168.0.129 - Garito [06/Jul/2005:10:38:03 +0200] "POST /Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar/ HTTP/1.1" 302 383 "http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Ver"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-ES; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4" 192.168.0.129 - Garito [06/Jul/2005:10:38:03 +0200] "GET /Papeles/Yanged/Links/Ver HTTP/1.1" 200 3434 "http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Ver"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-ES; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4" 192.168.0.129 - Garito [06/Jul/2005:10:38:03 +0200] "GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1" 404 1266 "" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; es-ES; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4"* Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Why don't work?
Lennart Regebro escribió: A wild guess: Your post works, but returns a redirect to a nother page, which returns nothing. This will look exactly like notyhing happened at the browser side. Yes, looking at Z2.log it seems it but If I execute the action url manually it works like I expect Any idea? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Why don't work?
bruno modulix escribió: Garito wrote: Lennart Regebro escribió: A wild guess: Your post works, but returns a redirect to a nother page, which returns nothing. This will look exactly like notyhing happened at the browser side. Yes, looking at Z2.log it seems it but If I execute the action url manually it works like I expect Any idea? Since we're not able to guess what your code is doing (well, I, at least, am not able to...), you could perhaps post it ? One thing that strikes me is the final slash in "POST /Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar/" What is "Eliminar", exactly ? Links/Eliminar is the execution path (using traverse_subpath) But if I execute the action URL directly on the browser it works fine -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Why don't work?
bruno modulix escribió: Garito wrote: bruno modulix escribió: Garito wrote: Lennart Regebro escribió: A wild guess: Your post works, but returns a redirect to a nother page, which returns nothing. This will look exactly like notyhing happened at the browser side. Yes, looking at Z2.log it seems it but If I execute the action url manually it works like I expect Any idea? Since we're not able to guess what your code is doing (well, I, at least, am not able to...), you could perhaps post it ? One thing that strikes me is the final slash in "POST /Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar/" What is "Eliminar", exactly ? Links/Eliminar is the execution path Oh yes ? Really ? I sure wouldn't have guessed (using traverse_subpath) But if I execute the action URL directly on the browser it works fine Garito, if you expect anyone here to be of any help, please provide *useful* informations. When I ask ">> What is "Eliminar", exactly ?", I of course mean "what kind of object is it" (ie: a dtml method, a python script, etc...). PS: You may want to read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Hi Bruno http://yanged:8280/Papeles/Yanged/Links/Eliminar is an url that if I call it from my browser executes some python scripts that I define in a XML file Then Eliminar is a string not an object nor a method because, as I told you some mails ago, I has it via traverse_subpath The real Object (travesed) is Yanged that is a mixed object with a ZCatalog and a folder (like plone portal_catalog) When I ask for Yanged/Links/Eliminar I ask to the XML file to see what Python Scripts or Page Templates give back to me and the I execute them But, I think its very interesting for me that an action url don't work if I submit the form but works if I call it directly from the browser. Interesant, no? Thanks PD: thanks for the smart-questions page, very interessant! PD2: sorry for the personal mail I send you (2 mails) but if you push reply button only the personal email is used. It's necesary to push reply all one, sorry! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] PUT_factory fight
Hi all
I fighting with these PUT_factory
def PUT_factory(self, name, typ, body):
from Products.Yanged.FicheroYanged import FicheroYanged
if name.endswith('.mm'):
ob = FicheroYanged(name, 'Fichero de estrucutra de ' +
self.getId(), body, 'LanzarProcesarFreeMind', self.getId(), typ)
return ob
return None
It's curious because these function (put on the same container) works
perfectly:
def CrearFicheroYanged(self):
""" """
from Products.Yanged.FicheroYanged import FicheroYanged
ob = FicheroYanged('Fichero', 'Fichero de pruebas de ' +
self.getId(), '', '', self.getId(), 'text/plain')
self._setObject('Fichero', ob)
return ob.getId()
Could anyone find the mistake?
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Re: [Zope] PUT_factory fight
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2005-8-2 12:34 +0200: ... Could anyone find the mistake? You forgot to tell us what problem you observe... You say "you were fighting" but that is not enough. What happened precisely? Sorry Dieter It seems it's a problem with PUT_factory and __bobo_traverse__ (at least in the way I override them) When I try to create an object FicheroYanged via FTP/WebDAV the object is not created and __bobo_traverse__ returns the default object and overrides its content I think there are another part on zope to do traversed url's like I want: __bobo_before_publish__ or something like these (i need to search on the list because I know we talk about these in the past) If you prefer, forget it at these moment and I make a better question later Thanks Dieter and sorry for the void thread -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] (1 conflicts since startup at 2005-08-04T14:45:39)
Hi all! We have: Zope Version (Zope 2.7.4-0, python 2.3.4, linux2) Python Version 2.3.4 (#1, May 19 2005, 17:40:30) [GCC 3.3.5-20050130 (Gentoo 3.3.5.20050130-r1, ssp-3.3.5.20050130-1, pie-8.7.7. System Platform linux2 and Archetypes 1.3.2-final CMF 1.4.7 Epoz 0.9.0 Our problem is we create some archetypes and in some parts of our structure if we try to create some object the computer cpu grows to 100% and raises 2005-08-04T15:01:02 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /VirtualHostBase/<>/createObject (1 conflicts since startup at 2005-08-04T14:45:39) Has someone any idea to solve these issue? On development time nothing of these occurs and when we go to production time these problem begins (for that these question is, for us, urgent) Thank you very much -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] (1 conflicts since startup at 2005-08-04T14:45:39)
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2005-8-4 14:11 +0200: Our problem is we create some archetypes and in some parts of our structure if we try to create some object the computer cpu grows to 100% and raises 2005-08-04T15:01:02 INFO(0) ZODB conflict error at /VirtualHostBase/<>/createObject (1 conflicts since startup at 2005-08-04T14:45:39) Has someone any idea to solve these issue? Not directly an idea but some hint: A long time ago (months, maybe even a year), I posted a patch that gives more informative error messages for "ConflictError". Search the archive, apply the patch and come back with the better message. A search for "ConflictError" will give you hundreds of posts. Many of them explain that "ConflictError" are a normal artefact of the ZODB. Nothing to worry about, unless you get too many... Hi Dieter and thank you again The problem that produce these error was a method acquired by an archetype but the data to calculate de algorithm is not acquirable by these archetype (I hope I explain myself) Thanks a lot! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Hi all!
Yesterday I install Zope 2.8.1 on a Mac OS X tiger Server and all goes ok
The only question I can't configure is the automatic boot up
I read some how-to's but they don't work
At /System/Library/StartupItems I create a folder called Zope with 2 files:
Zope with these contents:
#!/bin/sh
##
# Zope Web Application Server
##
. /etc/rc.common
StartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Starting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start
fi
}
StopService ()
{
ConsoleMessage "Stopping Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl stop
}
RestartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Restarting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl restart
fi
}
RunService "$1"
and StartupParameters.plist with these content:
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>
Description
Zope web application server
OrderPreference
None
Provides
Zope Server
Requires
Web Server
With these 2 files zope doesn't start at boot time. For that question I
try another StartupParameters.plist:
{
Description = "Zope WebServer";
Provides= ("Zope WebServer");
Requires= ("Web Server");
OrderPreference = "None";
Messages =
{
start = "Starting Zope WebServer Service";
stop = "Stopping Zope WebServer Service";
};
}
but It doesn't work too
Can anyone help me?
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Bernd Dorn escribió:
the following 3 problems
this line must be in /etc/hostconfig
ZOPESERVER=-YES-
Sorry I put these but I don't tell you
On 17.08.2005, at 13:03, Garito wrote:
Hi all!
Yesterday I install Zope 2.8.1 on a Mac OS X tiger Server and all
goes ok
The only question I can't configure is the automatic boot up
I read some how-to's but they don't work
At /System/Library/StartupItems I create a folder called Zope with 2
files:
Zope with these contents:
the 'Zope' file must be executable in order to work
chmod +x Zope
Perfect, perhaps this is the problem
#!/bin/sh
##
# Zope Web Application Server
##
. /etc/rc.common
StartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Starting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start
typo? sistes == sites
no, hehe, my company's name (sistes)
fi
}
StopService ()
{
ConsoleMessage "Stopping Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl stop
}
RestartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Restarting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl restart
fi
}
RunService "$1"
and StartupParameters.plist with these content:
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>
Description
Zope web application server
OrderPreference
None
Provides
Zope Server
Requires
Web Server
With these 2 files zope doesn't start at boot time. For that
question I try another StartupParameters.plist:
{
Description = "Zope WebServer";
Provides= ("Zope WebServer");
Requires= ("Web Server");
OrderPreference = "None";
Messages =
{
start = "Starting Zope WebServer Service";
stop = "Stopping Zope WebServer Service";
};
}
but It doesn't work too
Can anyone help me?
Thanks a lot!
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Thank you Bernd
If these doesn't work I tell you
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Bernd Dorn escribió:
the following 3 problems
this line must be in /etc/hostconfig
ZOPESERVER=-YES-
On 17.08.2005, at 13:03, Garito wrote:
Hi all!
Yesterday I install Zope 2.8.1 on a Mac OS X tiger Server and all
goes ok
The only question I can't configure is the automatic boot up
I read some how-to's but they don't work
At /System/Library/StartupItems I create a folder called Zope with 2
files:
Zope with these contents:
the 'Zope' file must be executable in order to work
chmod +x Zope
#!/bin/sh
##
# Zope Web Application Server
##
. /etc/rc.common
StartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Starting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start
typo? sistes == sites
fi
}
StopService ()
{
ConsoleMessage "Stopping Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl stop
}
RestartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Restarting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl restart
fi
}
RunService "$1"
and StartupParameters.plist with these content:
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>
Description
Zope web application server
OrderPreference
None
Provides
Zope Server
Requires
Web Server
With these 2 files zope doesn't start at boot time. For that
question I try another StartupParameters.plist:
{
Description = "Zope WebServer";
Provides= ("Zope WebServer");
Requires= ("Web Server");
OrderPreference = "None";
Messages =
{
start = "Starting Zope WebServer Service";
stop = "Stopping Zope WebServer Service";
};
}
but It doesn't work too
Can anyone help me?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi again!
Sorry but Zope is executable, perhaps another thing?
Any idea?
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Bernd Dorn escribió:
On 17.08.2005, at 20:22, Garito wrote:
Bernd Dorn escribió:
the following 3 problems
this line must be in /etc/hostconfig
ZOPESERVER=-YES-
On 17.08.2005, at 13:03, Garito wrote:
Hi all!
Yesterday I install Zope 2.8.1 on a Mac OS X tiger Server and all
goes ok
The only question I can't configure is the automatic boot up
I read some how-to's but they don't work
At /System/Library/StartupItems I create a folder called Zope
with 2 files:
Zope with these contents:
the 'Zope' file must be executable in order to work
chmod +x Zope
#!/bin/sh
##
# Zope Web Application Server
##
. /etc/rc.common
StartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Starting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start
typo? sistes == sites
fi
}
StopService ()
{
ConsoleMessage "Stopping Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl stop
}
RestartService ()
{
if [ "${ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then
ConsoleMessage "Restarting Zope"
/var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl restart
fi
}
RunService "$1"
and StartupParameters.plist with these content:
http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd";>
Description
Zope web application server
OrderPreference
None
Provides
Zope Server
Requires
Web Server
With these 2 files zope doesn't start at boot time. For that
question I try another StartupParameters.plist:
{
Description = "Zope WebServer";
Provides= ("Zope WebServer");
Requires= ("Web Server");
OrderPreference = "None";
Messages =
{
start = "Starting Zope WebServer Service";
stop = "Stopping Zope WebServer Service";
};
}
but It doesn't work too
Can anyone help me?
Thanks a lot!
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Hi again!
Sorry but Zope is executable, perhaps another thing?
Any idea?
hm, have you set the effective user in zope.conf? you need this if
you run zopectl as root
as root try to execute
/System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope
from the commandline
and have a look what if something is looged into your event.log
without any messages i have no clue
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Sorry but my Mac OS X skill are null
I try:
sudo /System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope
but raises line 31: $1: unbound variable
now I supouse $1 will be StartService/StopService/RestarService
then I try:
sudo /System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope StartService
but raises unknown argument: StartService
I another hand at Console there aren't any message about Zope on it
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Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Andrew Langmead escribió: On Aug 18, 2005, at 1:19 PM, Garito wrote: Sorry but my Mac OS X skill are null I think you are in the unfortunate spot of of OS X where you are confronted with the ease of use of Unix and the ubiquity of the Macintosh. I try: sudo /System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope but raises line 31: $1: unbound variable now I supouse $1 will be StartService/StopService/RestarService You might want to take a look at some of Apple's documentation for creating its startup items, since it is significantly different than either the traditional Unix styles (both BSD and SysV) <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/MacOSX/Conceptual/ BPSystemStartup/Articles/StartupItems.html> Also, I would recommend against putting your startup items in /System/ Library/StartupItems, and suggest to use /Library/StartupItems instead. Everything in /System can be overwritten by OS upgrades, / Library is for a machine's local customizations. What I believe you want in order to test your script is: sudo /Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope start the RunService function will take the argument "start" , "stop", or "restart", and based on that, run either the function "StartService", "StopService", or "RestartService". All three functions need to exist, whether they are used or not. Once you get that to succeed, you might want to try to see if this succeeeds: sudo /sbin/SystemStarter restart "Zope WebServer" (or maybe "Zope Server", you seem to have changed it between plist revisions.) Hi I try sudo /System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope start but nothing happend (nor on console) but if I launch /var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start it works perfectly I try to comment the if and fi lines but don't work any idea? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope 2.8.1 on Mac OS X tiger Server
Andrew Langmead escribió:
On Aug 23, 2005, at 6:24 AM, Garito wrote:
I try sudo /System/Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope start but nothing
happend (nor on console)
but if I launch /var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start it works perfectly
I try to comment the if and fi lines but don't work
I just want to make sure I point out to you, that little of this has
to do with Zope itself, and most of the audience of this list knows
little or cares little about the peculiarities of the MacOSX/Darwin
init environment.
One piece of information that I now realize that I forgot to put in
the previous message was that if you have the section "if [ "$
{ZOPESERVER=-NO-}" = "-YES-" ]; then" in your startup script, then
you probably have to put a line in your /etc/hostconfig that says
ZOPESERVER=-YES-. The bundles in /System/Library/StartupItems and /
Library/StartupItems tell the machine how to start services and in
what order, but the /etc/hostconfig file specifies which services are
desired for a particular machine.
If you want to diagnose the shell script in /Library/StartupItems/
Zope/Zope, you might want to try to run it with the bourne shell's
trace option, specified by the "-x" parameter.
sh -x /Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope start
Sorry for the inconvenience but I don't know where to ask for these kind
of problems
If I search on Google about these there are few responses and very vague
I type your sh -x /Library/StartItems/Zope/Zope start with these response:
macmini:~ garito$ sh -x /Library/StartupItems/Zope/Zope start
+ . /etc/rc.common
++ set -u
++
PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/libexec:/System/Library/CoreServices
++ export PATH
++ . /etc/hostconfig
+++ AFPSERVER=-NO-
+++ AUTHSERVER=-NO-
+++ AUTOMOUNT=-YES-
+++ CUPS=-AUTOMATIC-
+++ NFSLOCKS=-AUTOMATIC-
+++ NISDOMAIN=-NO-
+++ TIMESYNC=-YES-
+++ QTSSWEBADMIN=-NO-
+++ WEBSERVER=-YES-
+++ SMBSERVER=-YES-
+++ SNMPSERVER=-NO-
+++ SPOTLIGHT=-YES-
+++ QTSSRUNSERVER=-NO-
+++ TIMESERV=-NO-
+++ WEBPERFCACHESERVER=-NO-
+++ ARDAGENT=-YES-
+++ SOFTWAREUPDATESERVER=-NO-
+++ HOSTNAME=www.sistes.net
+++ IPFILTER=-NO-
+++ MAILMAN=-YES-
+++ CRASHREPORTER=-YES-
+++ ZOPESERVER=-YES-
+ RunService start
+ StartService
+ '[' -YES- = -YES- ']'
+ ConsoleMessage 'Starting Zope'
you must be root to run ConsoleMessage
+ /var/zope/sistes/bin/zopectl start
. daemon process started, pid=22593
the pid is asigned but Zope doesn't work even if I delete the
ConsoleMessages
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[Zope] I still can't load Zope at start up on a Mac OS X Server
Hi all Now I'm trying launchd method I have: lanunchd[309]: ZopeSistes: respawning too quickly! throtting or exits with exit code: 1 errors at system.log (it depends how I launch zope) any idea? Thanks!!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 04.00/04.00] Re: [Zope] I still can't load Zope at start up on a Mac OS X Server
Chris Withers escribió: Hi, Garito wrote: Hi all Now I'm trying launchd method I have: lanunchd[309]: ZopeSistes: respawning too quickly! throtting or exits with exit code: 1 errors at system.log (it depends how I launch zope) Yep, your Zope is dying. Try just using runzope with debug-mode on in zope.conf and maybe it'll give you an idea of what's failing... cheers, Chris Sorry but if I launch it manually (zopectl start) it works fine cheers! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Parse a XML file in Zope, zopeXMLmethods Product not working in Zope 2.8.1
Martin Koekenberg escribió: Hello, I've a xml file on the file system (the source is on an other webserver and the download is scheduled). How ca I parse this file with a xslt in Zope. ZopeXMLmethods isn't working annymore in Zope 2.8.1. Does annyone knows a Product of method to parse xml in Zope without the zopeXMLmethods product ? Regards, Martin Koekenberg ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Hi! I use xml.dom.minidom Alternatives? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Hi all
I try to read an xml file using
from xml.dom.minidom import parseString
It works fine but when I push the reload button raise these error
Error Type: ExpatError
Error Value: no element found: line 1, column 0
These error is intermittence
These is the trace back any idea?
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish
111 | missing_name,
112 | dont_publish_class,
113>| request, bind=1)
114 |
115 |if result is not response:
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
086 |
087 |args=tuple(args)
088>|if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context)
089 |else: return object(*args)
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
038 |
039 |def call_object(object, args, request):
040>|result=apply(object,args) # Type s to step into published object.
041 |return result
042 |
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
309 |def __call__(self, *args, **kw):
310 |'''Calls the script.'''
311>|return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None)
312 |
313 |def __render_with_namespace__(self, namespace):
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
346 |exec bindcode
347 |bound_data = bound_data[0]
348>|return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw)
349 |finally:
350 |security.removeContext(self)
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
321 |f = new.function(fcode, g, None, fadefs)
322 |
323>|result = f(*args, **kw)
324 |if keyset is not None:
325 |# Store the result in the cache.
Module None, line 9, in Lanzar
-- Line 9
006 |if 'Camino' not in args: args['Camino'] = traverse_subpath
007 |if 'Usuario' not in args: args['Usuario'] = str(context.Dame('usuario'))
008>|args = context.ObtenerNodo(args)
009 |
010 |if args is None:
Module Products.Yanged.SitioYanged, line 268, in ObtenerNodo
266 |
267 | if 'NodoRaiz' not in args:
268>|args['NodoRaiz'] =
parseString(self.Dame({'nombre': self.getId() + '.mm'}).index_html(self.REQUEST,
self.REQUEST.RESPONSE))
269 | if 'Nodos' not in args: args['Nodos'] =
args['NodoRaiz'].childNodes
270 | if 'Nivel' not in args: args['Nivel'] = 0
Module xml.dom.minidom, line 1929, in parseString
1927 |if parser is None:
1928 |from xml.dom import expatbuilder
1929>|return expatbuilder.parseString(string)
1930 |else:
1931 |from xml.dom import pulldom
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 940, in parseString
938 |else:
939 |builder = ExpatBuilder()
940>|return builder.parseString(string)
941 |
942 |
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 223, in parseString
221 |parser = self.getParser()
222 |try:
223>| parser.Parse(string, True)
224 |self._setup_subset(string)
225 |except ParseEscape:
ExpatError: no element found: line 1, column 0
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Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Chris Withers escribió:
Get a packet sniffer going, looks like something is missing from the
request when you hit reload!
cheers,
Chris
Garito wrote:
Hi all
I try to read an xml file using
from xml.dom.minidom import parseString
It works fine but when I push the reload button raise these error
Error Type: ExpatError
Error Value: no element found: line 1, column 0
These error is intermittence
These is the trace back any idea?
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish
111 | missing_name,
112 | dont_publish_class,
113>| request, bind=1)
114 |
115 |if result is not response:
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
086 |
087 |args=tuple(args)
088>|if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context)
089 |else: return object(*args)
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
038 |
039 |def call_object(object, args, request):
040>|result=apply(object,args) # Type s to step into
published object.
041 |return result
042 |
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
309 |def __call__(self, *args, **kw):
310 |'''Calls the script.'''
311>|return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None)
312 |
313 |def __render_with_namespace__(self, namespace):
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
346 |exec bindcode
347 |bound_data = bound_data[0]
348>|return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw)
349 |finally:
350 |security.removeContext(self)
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
321 |f = new.function(fcode, g, None, fadefs)
322 |
323>|result = f(*args, **kw)
324 |if keyset is not None:
325 |# Store the result in the cache.
Module None, line 9, in Lanzar
-- Line 9
006 |if 'Camino' not in args: args['Camino'] = traverse_subpath
007 |if 'Usuario' not in args: args['Usuario'] =
str(context.Dame('usuario'))
008>|args = context.ObtenerNodo(args)
009 |
010 |if args is None: Module Products.Yanged.SitioYanged, line 268,
in ObtenerNodo
266 | 267 |if 'NodoRaiz' not in args:
268>|args['NodoRaiz'] = parseString(self.Dame({'nombre':
self.getId() + '.mm'}).index_html(self.REQUEST, self.REQUEST.RESPONSE))
269 |if 'Nodos' not in args: args['Nodos'] =
args['NodoRaiz'].childNodes
270 |if 'Nivel' not in args: args['Nivel'] = 0
Module xml.dom.minidom, line 1929, in parseString
1927 |if parser is None:
1928 |from xml.dom import expatbuilder
1929>|return expatbuilder.parseString(string)
1930 |else:
1931 |from xml.dom import pulldom
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 940, in parseString
938 |else:
939 |builder = ExpatBuilder()
940>|return builder.parseString(string)
941 |
942 |
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 223, in parseString
221 |parser = self.getParser()
222 |try:
223>|parser.Parse(string, True)
224 |self._setup_subset(string)
225 |except ParseEscape:
ExpatError: no element found: line 1, column 0
Thanks!
Hi Chris!
Could you be a little more concrete?
Thanks!
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Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Alan Milligan escribió:
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Garito wrote:
Chris Withers escribió:
Get a packet sniffer going, looks like something is missing from the
request when you hit reload!
cheers,
Chris
Garito wrote:
Hi all
I try to read an xml file using
from xml.dom.minidom import parseString
It works fine but when I push the reload button raise these error
Error Type: ExpatError
Error Value: no element found: line 1, column 0
These error is intermittence
These is the trace back any idea?
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 113, in publish
111 | missing_name,
112 | dont_publish_class,
113>| request, bind=1)
114 |
115 |if result is not response:
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
086 |
087 |args=tuple(args)
088>|if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context)
089 |else: return object(*args)
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 40, in call_object
038 |
039 |def call_object(object, args, request):
040>|result=apply(object,args) # Type s to step into
published object.
041 |return result
042 |
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 311, in __call__
309 |def __call__(self, *args, **kw):
310 |'''Calls the script.'''
311>|return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None)
312 |
313 |def __render_with_namespace__(self, namespace):
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 348, in _bindAndExec
346 |exec bindcode
347 |bound_data = bound_data[0]
348>|return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw)
349 |finally:
350 |security.removeContext(self)
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
321 |f = new.function(fcode, g, None, fadefs)
322 |
323>|result = f(*args, **kw)
324 |if keyset is not None:
325 |# Store the result in the cache.
Module None, line 9, in Lanzar
-- Line 9
006 |if 'Camino' not in args: args['Camino'] = traverse_subpath
007 |if 'Usuario' not in args: args['Usuario'] =
str(context.Dame('usuario'))
008>|args = context.ObtenerNodo(args)
009 |
010 |if args is None: Module Products.Yanged.SitioYanged, line 268,
in ObtenerNodo
266 | 267 |if 'NodoRaiz' not in args:
268>|args['NodoRaiz'] = parseString(self.Dame({'nombre':
self.getId() + '.mm'}).index_html(self.REQUEST, self.REQUEST.RESPONSE))
269 |if 'Nodos' not in args: args['Nodos'] =
args['NodoRaiz'].childNodes
270 |if 'Nivel' not in args: args['Nivel'] = 0
Module xml.dom.minidom, line 1929, in parseString
1927 |if parser is None:
1928 |from xml.dom import expatbuilder
1929>|return expatbuilder.parseString(string)
1930 |else:
1931 |from xml.dom import pulldom
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 940, in parseString
938 |else:
939 |builder = ExpatBuilder()
940>|return builder.parseString(string)
941 |
942 |
Module xml.dom.expatbuilder, line 223, in parseString
221 |parser = self.getParser()
222 |try:
223>|parser.Parse(string, True)
224 |self._setup_subset(string)
225 |except ParseEscape:
ExpatError: no element found: line 1, column 0
Thanks!
Hi Chris!
Could you be a little more concrete?
Thanks!
You do realise that pyexpat has a limitation of 8192 bytes between xml
tags - if your parse string is longer than this, it will fail. You can
recompile your expat parser to accept larger sizes, but this drastically
affects performance.
ALan
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Buff! Complicate
There are any out-of-the-box solution on Zope?
I mean: there are any other xml library on a standard Zope installation?
Thanks!
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Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Fred Drake escribió: On 10/12/05, Alan Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And you are allowed to be. It is a bit strange in an XML-RPC dialog to drop out to http occasionally ... Actually, I'd expect large files over XML-RPC to be handled by sending a URL, and have the client GET the file separately. But then, I have weird ideas sometimes. This has absolutely nothing on them actually implementing a lot of their XML-RPC using HTTP GET, when the protocol clearly states it must be an HTTP POST ... (I imagine this is a performance enhancement in that you needn't xml-parse the payload ...) Unless you can make the server a simple front-end to a pile-o-files on disk, I don't see any benefit. There's no issue for the client, only the server, since they want to limit the number of machines they stick behind the load-balancer. Ok, I think we've agreed this isn't an Expat issue, but a bug in RedHat code that's unrelated to using XML in Zope. The Expat-based minidom-builder in recent versions of Python is pretty well tested in practice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless." --B.F. Skinner ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Hi all! I use an XML file because I like to use freemind like editor I think perhaps could be better if I could transform it to a good Zope object instead of XML but I don't know how to make zope ftp server serve this file like a method I know how to read the file (PUT_factory method) but I want freemind to read a created file Some idea? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Fred Drake escribió:
On 10/12/05, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Alan Milligan escribió:
You do realise that pyexpat has a limitation of 8192 bytes between xml
tags - if your parse string is longer than this, it will fail. You can
recompile your expat parser to accept larger sizes, but this drastically
affects performance.
Ok, I don't know just where this assertion comes from; I can't
reproduce this at all with the pyexpat in Python 2.3.5 or 2.4.2. I've
attached a short test program that verifies pyexpat's behavior.
-Fred
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"""Test asserted size limitation of text between tags for pyexpat.
"""
__docformat__ = "reStructuredText"
from xml.parsers import expat
COUNT = 8192 * 10
SAMPLE_TEXT = "abc" + ("-" * COUNT) + "xyz"
buffer = []
def characters(text):
buffer.append(text)
p = expat.ParserCreate()
p.CharacterDataHandler = characters
p.Parse(SAMPLE_TEXT, True)
text = u"".join(buffer)
assert len(text) == (COUNT + 6)
assert text.startswith(u"abc---")
assert text.endswith(u"---xyz")
# This is expected to print "abc--- ---xyz"
print text[:6], text[-6:]
I run your test but no error was raised
I attach an xml file like I use and who raise the error, perhaps these
could help to reproduce the error
This file is generated by freemind
(http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page)
Thank you very much for your help
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Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Alan Milligan escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garito wrote: Fred Drake escribió: On 10/12/05, Alan Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And you are allowed to be. It is a bit strange in an XML-RPC dialog to drop out to http occasionally ... Actually, I'd expect large files over XML-RPC to be handled by sending a URL, and have the client GET the file separately. But then, I have weird ideas sometimes. This has absolutely nothing on them actually implementing a lot of their XML-RPC using HTTP GET, when the protocol clearly states it must be an HTTP POST ... (I imagine this is a performance enhancement in that you needn't xml-parse the payload ...) Unless you can make the server a simple front-end to a pile-o-files on disk, I don't see any benefit. There's no issue for the client, only the server, since they want to limit the number of machines they stick behind the load-balancer. Ok, I think we've agreed this isn't an Expat issue, but a bug in RedHat code that's unrelated to using XML in Zope. The Expat-based minidom-builder in recent versions of Python is pretty well tested in practice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless." --B.F. Skinner ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Hi all! I use an XML file because I like to use freemind like editor I think perhaps could be better if I could transform it to a good Zope object instead of XML but I don't know how to make zope ftp server serve this file like a method I know how to read the file (PUT_factory method) but I want freemind to read a created file Some idea? Thanks! I've no idea what freemind is, but have you installed ExternalEditor?? With this you should be able to connect any editor you require. It works by overriding the PUT method, popularised with both ftp and web-dav. Alan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDTUosCfroLk4EZpkRAnfkAKC0BFcz3QFO1T/Uc2kpurKjNnKenACgv6vd Q2rEdQfogS5EA9CE0w8sAf8= =N+ql -END PGP SIGNATURE- Sorry for my english I would like to create a method on my container that will be a file by FTP With these I could transform XML to a Zope object better than XML I will use PUT_factory to read the XML file but I don't know the write method Could any one put an example (if these is possible)? If these FTP behaviour is not possible I think the better solution is maintain the XML file. isn't it? Thanks PD: freemind link: http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Alan Milligan escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Garito wrote: Alan Milligan escribió: Garito wrote: Fred Drake escribió: On 10/12/05, Alan Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And you are allowed to be. It is a bit strange in an XML-RPC dialog to drop out to http occasionally ... Actually, I'd expect large files over XML-RPC to be handled by sending a URL, and have the client GET the file separately. But then, I have weird ideas sometimes. This has absolutely nothing on them actually implementing a lot of their XML-RPC using HTTP GET, when the protocol clearly states it must be an HTTP POST ... (I imagine this is a performance enhancement in that you needn't xml-parse the payload ...) Unless you can make the server a simple front-end to a pile-o-files on disk, I don't see any benefit. There's no issue for the client, only the server, since they want to limit the number of machines they stick behind the load-balancer. Ok, I think we've agreed this isn't an Expat issue, but a bug in RedHat code that's unrelated to using XML in Zope. The Expat-based minidom-builder in recent versions of Python is pretty well tested in practice. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless." --B.F. Skinner ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Hi all! I use an XML file because I like to use freemind like editor I think perhaps could be better if I could transform it to a good Zope object instead of XML but I don't know how to make zope ftp server serve this file like a method I know how to read the file (PUT_factory method) but I want freemind to read a created file Some idea? Thanks! I've no idea what freemind is, but have you installed ExternalEditor?? With this you should be able to connect any editor you require. It works by overriding the PUT method, popularised with both ftp and web-dav. Alan Sorry for my english Heh, I still don't quite understand what you want ... I would like to create a method on my container that will be a file by FTP With these I could transform XML to a Zope object better than XML You are aware that you can save arbitrary XML as ZPT with a content-type of 'text/xml' ... If you install ExternalEditor, you can edit it with whatever tool you want. I will use PUT_factory to read the XML file but I don't know the write method Don't you mean GET here - PUT is the write method. Alan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFDTVTUCfroLk4EZpkRAnzkAJ4ofhPS1vCRwInPdMtMoNZbW55xeQCfYRqW K0F3qROSptQ9EE8u9aws2/Q= =dMcF -END PGP SIGNATURE- Can you put here an example about how to do what I need to do with the PUT method? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Fred Drake escribió: On 10/12/05, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I run your test but no error was raised Right. I attach an xml file like I use and who raise the error, perhaps these could help to reproduce the error If you replaced SAMPLE_TEXT in the test script with this data, an error would indeed be raised, because it's testing that it got the data from the sample text. The test was intended to demonstrate that pyexpat can handle more than 8192 characters of data between tags, and does so. I was able to verify well-formedness of your document, and load it into minidom from a file without problems, using Python 2.3.5 and 2.4.2. I need more information about what went wrong for you before I can help with that; the error you received suggests that there was no input at all. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless." --B.F. Skinner Hi again Fred! What do you need? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Fred Drake escribió:
On 10/12/05, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What do you need?
In this bit of code:
Module Products.Yanged.SitioYanged, line 268, in ObtenerNodo
266 |
267 | if 'NodoRaiz' not in args:
268>| args['NodoRaiz'] =
parseString(self.Dame({'nombre': self.getId() +
'.mm'}).index_html(self.REQUEST, self.REQUEST.RESPONSE))
269 | if 'Nodos' not in args: args['Nodos'] =
args['NodoRaiz'].childNodes
270 | if 'Nivel' not in args: args['Nivel'] = 0
The expression
self.Dame({'nombre': self.getId() + '.mm'})
is providing something that's being passed to the XML parser (the
parseString() function). That string is the data that's in question;
if you can get that string and send it to me (as a file attachment,
preferably), I'll try to figure out what's happening. The "Yanged"
product I've never heard of, and don't know anything about its code.
But I know something about the XML parser being used. :-)
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Hi again!
self.Dame({'nombre': self.getId() + '.mm'})
Dame is a function that returns a ZCatalog query where nombre is an index
Then this function return a modified File object (the modification
constist make File CatalogAware)
This File object returns the text of the last attachment I send you some
mails ago
Yanged is the product I'm developing
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Re: [Zope] Error Type: ExpatError
Fred Drake escribió:
On 10/13/05, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
self.Dame({'nombre': self.getId() + '.mm'})
Dame is a function that returns a ZCatalog query where nombre is an index
...
This File object returns the text of the last attachment I send you some
mails ago
The index_html() method returns the freemind XML? Interesting.
What version of Python are you using? Do you have PyXML installed?
If so, what version are you using?
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A File object returns the content of the file if you call index_html() I
don't know if is the best way (if not please point me!)
My development systems is:
Windows XP Pro
Python 2.3.5
Zope 2.8.0
I'm not conscious about install PyXML then I reply No to your question
about it
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[Zope] [OT] ParsedXML dev mail list
Hi all Sorry for the off topic but I try to subscribe to ParsedXML dev mail list but I can't (mail list doesn't exists) Anyone knows where is it? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] [OT] ParsedXML dev mail list
Fred Drake escribió: On 10/21/05, Chris Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garito wrote: Sorry for the off topic but I try to subscribe to ParsedXML dev mail list but I can't (mail list doesn't exists) Doesn't look like it. Is ParsedXML an Infrae or a Zope Corp product? You could always try asking about your problem on this list... It was originally a Zope Corp product, and still lives in the zope.org CVS. I don't think anyone here is currently using it for anything, though. There is a zope-xml list that came into existance back when we were developing that, but its been nothing but spambait for the past couple of years. It should probably be retired. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless." --B.F. Skinner Ok! My question is: How can I create a ElementAttributePath class? In ElementIdPath I see how ParsedXML transform http://server:port/XmlObject/0/1/2 into a path to DOM but I need the same behaviour but with another attributes How can I make these? Thanks!!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
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Re: [Zope] TinyMCE
Peter Bengtsson escribió: Hi all, Are there any open source efforts in integrating TinyMCE with Zope similar to Kupu? If not, I might actually give it a go. -- Peter Bengtsson, work www.fry-it.com home www.peterbe.com hobby www.issuetrackerproduct.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) If you create a easy to install and use product and we could use it like epoz (as easy) I will use it Don't like kupu because is very difficult to install and very very difficult to use Don't like epoz because is incomplete Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] TinyMCE
Chris Withers escribió: Garito wrote: Don't like kupu because is very difficult to install and very very difficult to use I find that a suprising statement... What problems did you experience? cheers, Chris Hi, Chris! I ask to the list some months ago but no solution was proposed (at least not a good one for me) I try to install it and use but the behavior of kupu is, in my opinion, unacceptable for my needs I'm working on a framework where the most important question is easyness and kupu doesn't meet these condition I need a WYSIWYG editor to override some TextAreaField from Formulator to render WYSIWYG Kupu is hard to install and hard to configure like I need For that, I'm waiting for someone who need something like me or do it for myself when I have a moment free Sorry -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] TinyMCE
J Cameron Cooper escribió: Garito wrote: Chris Withers escribió: Garito wrote: Don't like kupu because is very difficult to install and very very difficult to use I find that a suprising statement... What problems did you experience? cheers, Chris Hi, Chris! I ask to the list some months ago but no solution was proposed (at least not a good one for me) I try to install it and use but the behavior of kupu is, in my opinion, unacceptable for my needs I'm working on a framework where the most important question is easyness and kupu doesn't meet these condition I need a WYSIWYG editor to override some TextAreaField from Formulator to render WYSIWYG Kupu is hard to install and hard to configure like I need For that, I'm waiting for someone who need something like me or do it for myself when I have a moment free I think they'd really like details. What problems do you encounter on install? What sort of configuration do you want to do that is difficult? I'm afraid "easiness" is not set explicitly. --jcc I have some problems to create a data-centric kupu The default behaviour is to edit a page with the editor but I need to use kupu on a form, perhaps with more than one editor per form I think I can use kupu data-centered instead of page-centered isn't it? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] TinyMCE
Chris Withers escribió: Garito wrote: The default behaviour is to edit a page with the editor but I need to use kupu on a form, perhaps with more than one editor per form I think I can use kupu data-centered instead of page-centered isn't it? Try looking at how kupu is used in Plohn, where there can be more than one editor per form... cheers, Chris Yeah! I read the documentation of the new version Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Force ZCatalog to UTF-8
Hi all! How can I force ZCatalog to use only unicode strings (UTF-8)? I'm trying to change all zope to use these charset. For that I install Zope 2.9.1 and I change on zope.conf: rest-input-encoding utf-8 rest-output-encoding utf-8 default-zpublisher-encoding utf-8 but ZCatalog don't catalog unicode if the string is not an unicode string (at least I think so) Any idea? Thanks a lot! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] kupu drawers
Hi! I try to create a image library for the image drawer but when I click on the drawer button an error is raise: this.shared.xmldata.setProperty is not a function I supouse that the error is raised because the xml is incorrect but I can't see where Can you help me? This is the XML: http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta Imagenes/Ver/Galeria Galeria de fotos http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta Imagenes/Ver/Galeria http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Imagenes/CarpetaImagenes.png http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta Imagenes/Ver/Imagenes Imagenes de la web http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta Imagenes/Ver/Imagenes http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Imagenes/CarpetaImagenes.png Thanks a lot! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: kupu drawers
Duncan Booth escribió:
Garito wrote:
this.shared.xmldata.setProperty is not a function
I supouse that the error is raised because the xml is incorrect but I
can't see where
I think this could happen if you gave the wrong content-type for your XML.
If the browser doesn't realise that it is supposed to be XML then it won't
bother parsing it. Kupu trunk has code to check for this and build a DOM if
the browser hasn't bothered, but earlier releases (such as 1.3.x) don't.
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Hi Duncan!
Thank you for your interest
I use Firefox with FireBug and this is the result of the try to load
the XML file on kupu (after that is when the error is raised):
onreadystatechange
[xpconnect wrapped nsIOnReadyStateChangeHandler]
channel
[xpconnect wrapped nsIChannel]
readyState
4
status
200
responseXML
[object
XMLDocument]
responseText
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta
Imagenes/Ver/Galeria Galeria de
fotos
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta
Imagenes/Ver/Galeria
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Imagenes/CarpetaImagenes.png
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta
Imagenes/Ver/Imagenes Imagenes de la
web
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Carpeta
Imagenes/Ver/Imagenes
http://yanged:9180/EspaciosYanged/Huete/huete.cc/Imagenes/CarpetaImagenes.png
statusText
OK
multipart
false
onload
null
onerror
null
onprogress
null
send
function send() { [native code]
}
open
function (method, url, sync) {
FireBug.httpOpenWrapper(this, context, win, method, url, sync);
}
addEventListener
function addEventListener() { [native code]
}
removeEventListener
function removeEventListener() { [native code]
}
abort
function abort() { [native code]
}
getAllResponseHeaders
function getAllResponseHeaders() { [native
code]
}
getResponseHeader
function getResponseHeader() { [native code]
}
setRequestHeader
function setRequestHeader() { [native code]
}
overrideMimeType
function overrideMimeType() { [native code]
}
dispatchEvent
function dispatchEvent() { [native code]
}
getInterface
function getInterface() { [native code]
}
I think Zope is returning XML isn't it?
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[Zope] Css product
Hi all! Do you know any product for css that works with zope 2.9.1? I try to use ZStyleSheet product but seems doesn't work on this version of Zope What I'm trying to know is all the styles on my css objects (or files) to pass them to the WYSIWYG editor Is this possible? Thanks in advance! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Ajax Upload
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[Zope] Override members values
Hi all! I need to override the value of some members of my product I think the correct way was __getattr__ function but I read some list's messages telling to use __getattr__ only if you don't have other way How can I override only the value of some dynamic members? I call dynamic members to the members that the user adds (with a property or an object) Why? Because I would like things like: Object.member1 -> 1 (if you are a manager) Object.member1 -> 2 (if you are a normal user) or Object.member1 -> 1 (for firefox users) Object.member1 -> 2 (for ie users) Where member1 is a property at property manager (for example) Thank so much! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Override members values
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 10. Juli 2006 08:38:15 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! I need to override the value of some members of my product I think the correct way was __getattr__ function but I read some list's messages telling to use __getattr__ only if you don't have other way The standard Zope users objects don't provide an API for additional attributes. CMF/Plone provide such support through portal_memberdata. How can I override only the value of some dynamic members I call dynamic members to the members that the user adds (with a property or an object) What are dynamic members? This is not a term used in the Zope world. -aj I would like to pre-process the member. A dynamic member (sorry for the term) is pre-processed member I would like to create some properties like: object.member1 = "[/some/path]" but I would like to retrive the content of /some/path when I'm asking for object.member1 -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Override members values
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 10. Juli 2006 09:07:58 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 10. Juli 2006 08:38:15 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! I need to override the value of some members of my product I think the correct way was __getattr__ function but I read some list's messages telling to use __getattr__ only if you don't have other way The standard Zope users objects don't provide an API for additional attributes. CMF/Plone provide such support through portal_memberdata. How can I override only the value of some dynamic members I call dynamic members to the members that the user adds (with a property or an object) What are dynamic members? This is not a term used in the Zope world. -aj I would like to pre-process the member. A dynamic member (sorry for the term) is pre-processed member pre-process? I would like to create some properties like: object.member1 = "[/some/path]" members? In the Zope context we talk of "users". "members" are a CMF term. And users aren't attributes of objects. Really no idea what you want to achive... -aj Hi again! Sorry for my vocabulary I try again: I have a property on the property manager called member1 with a value of "[/some/path]" User1 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for /some/path for these user: 1 User2 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for /some/path for these user: 2 I have a property on the property manager called member2 with a value of "[a reference to the calculator]" A user ask for this property from his firefox. We calculate the real value for the reference for this browser: Another user ask for this property from his ie. We calculate the real value for the reference for this browser: I would like to change the "accessor" for any property in my Zope product How can I? Thank you and sorry for my poor english expression -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Override members values
Jonathan escribió:
- Original Message - From: "Garito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I try again:
I have a property on the property manager called member1 with a value
of "[/some/path]"
User1 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 1
User2 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 2
I have a property on the property manager called member2 with a value
of "[a reference to the calculator]"
A user ask for this property from his firefox. We calculate the real
value for the reference for this browser:
Another user ask for this property from his ie. We calculate the real
value for the reference for this browser:
I would like to change the "accessor" for any property in my Zope
product
How can I?
If I understand what you are trying to accomplish (of which I am not
completely sure)...then you could create a script that accesses the
object and returns a value based on the user agent string:
eg.
import string
REQUEST = container.REQUEST
targetObject = context.restrictedTraverse('/some/path/objId')
if string.find(REQUEST['HTTP_USER_AGENT'], 'Firefox') != -1:
Good Jonathan, something like this is on my mind but where I need to put
a piece of code like this?
__getattr__?
__bobo_traverse__?
another place?
I work with __bobo_traverse__ for some purposes but I would like a place
like __getattr__ because is where I go when I need an object's member
(__hasattr__ too) and __bobo_traverse__ need to returns an object not a
value
__getattr__ some of you (I don't remember how exactly, sorry) have said
is a member to use only if there are no other way and I'm a little
scared for that
What do you thing about?
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Re: [Zope] Override members values
Jonathan escribió:
- Original Message - From: "Garito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lista Zope Internacional"
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Override members values
Jonathan escribió:
- Original Message - From: "Garito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I try again:
I have a property on the property manager called member1 with a
value of "[/some/path]"
User1 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 1
User2 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 2
I have a property on the property manager called member2 with a
value of "[a reference to the calculator]"
A user ask for this property from his firefox. We calculate the
real value for the reference for this browser:
Another user ask for this property from his ie. We calculate the
real value for the reference for this browser:
I would like to change the "accessor" for any property in my Zope
product
How can I?
If I understand what you are trying to accomplish (of which I am not
completely sure)...then you could create a script that accesses the
object and returns a value based on the user agent string:
eg.
import string
REQUEST = container.REQUEST
targetObject = context.restrictedTraverse('/some/path/objId')
if string.find(REQUEST['HTTP_USER_AGENT'], 'Firefox') != -1:
users)
else:
Good Jonathan, something like this is on my mind but where I need to
put a piece of code like this?
__getattr__?
__bobo_traverse__?
another place?
I work with __bobo_traverse__ for some purposes but I would like a
place like __getattr__ because is where I go when I need an object's
member (__hasattr__ too) and __bobo_traverse__ need to returns an
object not a value
__getattr__ some of you (I don't remember how exactly, sorry) have
said is a member to use only if there are no other way and I'm a
little scared for that
I have no idea how your application is designed/structured, but one
possible solution is to create a python script and place it in the
path to the object you want to access. For example, if the python
script is called pScript then:
/some/path/pScript/objectId
the python script 'pScript' will get executed and can access a
variable in REQUEST called 'traverse_subpath' - which is a list, and
in the above case has only 1 element which is a string containing
'objectId'. You can then use this string in the restrictedTraverse
command to get access to the object:
REQUEST = container.REQUEST
targetObject = context.restrictedTraverse('/some/path/some/folder/'+
REQUEST['traverse_subpath'][0])
Jonathan
Sure, but I would like to put it to act like
print Object.member
and the value is the result of your code
Where I put the code?
If I want to override the () member of a object I override __call__, if
I want to override the str(object) I override __str__, right?
How can I override the object. ?
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Re: [Zope] Override members values
Garito escribió:
Jonathan escribió:
- Original Message - From: "Garito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lista Zope Internacional"
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Zope] Override members values
Jonathan escribió:
- Original Message - From: "Garito" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I try again:
I have a property on the property manager called member1 with a
value of "[/some/path]"
User1 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 1
User2 ask for this property. We calculate the real value for
/some/path for these user: 2
I have a property on the property manager called member2 with a
value of "[a reference to the calculator]"
A user ask for this property from his firefox. We calculate the
real value for the reference for this browser:
Another user ask for this property from his ie. We calculate the
real value for the reference for this browser:
I would like to change the "accessor" for any property in my Zope
product
How can I?
If I understand what you are trying to accomplish (of which I am
not completely sure)...then you could create a script that accesses
the object and returns a value based on the user agent string:
eg.
import string
REQUEST = container.REQUEST
targetObject = context.restrictedTraverse('/some/path/objId')
if string.find(REQUEST['HTTP_USER_AGENT'], 'Firefox') != -1:
users)
else:
Note: 'attribute' is whatever property you have defined for the
object.
hth
Jonathan
Good Jonathan, something like this is on my mind but where I need to
put a piece of code like this?
__getattr__?
__bobo_traverse__?
another place?
I work with __bobo_traverse__ for some purposes but I would like a
place like __getattr__ because is where I go when I need an object's
member (__hasattr__ too) and __bobo_traverse__ need to returns an
object not a value
__getattr__ some of you (I don't remember how exactly, sorry) have
said is a member to use only if there are no other way and I'm a
little scared for that
I have no idea how your application is designed/structured, but one
possible solution is to create a python script and place it in the
path to the object you want to access. For example, if the python
script is called pScript then:
/some/path/pScript/objectId
the python script 'pScript' will get executed and can access a
variable in REQUEST called 'traverse_subpath' - which is a list, and
in the above case has only 1 element which is a string containing
'objectId'. You can then use this string in the restrictedTraverse
command to get access to the object:
REQUEST = container.REQUEST
targetObject = context.restrictedTraverse('/some/path/some/folder/'+
REQUEST['traverse_subpath'][0])
Jonathan
Sure, but I would like to put it to act like
print Object.member
and the value is the result of your code
Where I put the code?
If I want to override the () member of a object I override __call__,
if I want to override the str(object) I override __str__, right?
How can I override the object. ?
Perhaps like this? (the __get__ member?)
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/408713
This will be the best solution?
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Re: [Zope] Override members values
knitti escribió: On 7/10/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: __getattr__ some of you (I don't remember how exactly, sorry) have said is a member to use only if there are no other way and I'm a little scared for that I think there's no "official" (as in "provided by the framework") support for what you want. If you are too scared to implement some proof-of-concept which involves good testing covering your use case, you should think about another way to implement what you need. you could also use __getattribute__(), this way you can also have "dynamic" methods. http://docs.python.org/ref/new-style-attribute-access.html don't know how ZODB copes with this. or whether one needs to worry about that. --knitti Hi knitti! __getattribute__ could be good (I test it and I like the way if there are anyone with a better one) Now my question is: There are any way to distinguish when the property is called by ZMI or FTP or another "system" call (about Zope) from the property when is called outside ZMI? Now I have a property like: object.Property1 = '[/some/path]' with the __getattribute__ override I can do print object.Property1 and the result is ok (the result of /some/path) but now if I go to property tab of the object I can't see ['/some/path'] or raise an error telling Property1 is not a member What I would like to create is an object that in the ZMI has some property values but when this properties are called the returns the execution of the path (like macro expansion or similar) Is this possible to do? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] absolute_url is empty in __getattribute__?
Hi In the line to test __getattribute__ to override some properties I try to access to the object's absolute_url but it's empty How can I have the absolute_url at object's __getattribute__? Thanks again -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Override members values
knitti escribió: On 7/10/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: knitti escribió: There are any way to distinguish when the property is called by ZMI or FTP or another "system" call (about Zope) from the property when is called outside ZMI? not that I'm aware of. Now I have a property like: object.Property1 = '[/some/path]' with the __getattribute__ override I can do print object.Property1 and the result is ok (the result of /some/path) but now if I go to property tab of the object I can't see ['/some/path'] or raise an error telling Property1 is not a member because a property of a 'Zope object' (for the lack of better terms) is actually an entry in a PropertySheet instance. You _really_ want to use manage_addProperty() / manage_changeProperties() for those. What I would like to create is an object that in the ZMI has some property values but when this properties are called the returns the execution of the path (like macro expansion or similar) Is this possible to do? I don't understand this question --knitti Sure. At the spanish list someone has a private (his costumer don't want to share it) PropertyManagerWithTALES In this class the properties are TALES expressions I need something like it I put the TALES expression in the Property Sheet tab but the data retrieved is the execution of the TALES expression Any idea? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] absolute_url is empty in __getattribute__?
knitti escribió: On 7/11/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the line to test __getattribute__ to override some properties I try to access to the object's absolute_url but it's empty its not a property, ist a method: ObjectManagerItem.absolute_url() --knitti I know but if you call it returns ""? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] absolute_url is empty in __getattribute__?
Lennart Regebro escribió: On 7/11/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi In the line to test __getattribute__ to override some properties I try to access to the object's absolute_url but it's empty __getattr__ is always called on the non-acquicision wrapped object. Hence, __getattr__ doesn't know anything about it's surroundings. How can I have the absolute_url at object's __getattribute__? You can't, unless you bend over backwards, and there are surely easier ways to do whatever you are trying to do. What are you trying to achieve? Hi Lennart! Did you read the thread "Override members value"? I'm trying to do something like a TALES property or similar -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] absolute_url is empty in __getattribute__?
Garito escribió: Hi In the line to test __getattribute__ to override some properties I try to access to the object's absolute_url but it's empty How can I have the absolute_url at object's __getattribute__? Thanks again Hi all! I rethink my problem and I solve all my questions with the new approach Thank you so much -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Hi all! Please, look at this code: def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): obj = getattr(self, name, None) if obj is not None: return obj else: obj = self.Dame(name) if obj is not None: return obj else: if 'Parametros' in self.REQUEST: self.REQUEST['Parametros'] = self.REQUEST['Parametros'] + [name] else: self.REQUEST['Parametros'] = [name] return self self.Dame is a function that seeks for an object with the name "name" I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: because zope raises an unauthorized error How can I solve this point? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Garito escribió: Hi all! Please, look at this code: def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): obj = getattr(self, name, None) if obj is not None: return obj else: obj = self.Dame(name) if obj is not None: return obj else: if 'Parametros' in self.REQUEST: self.REQUEST['Parametros'] = self.REQUEST['Parametros'] + [name] else: self.REQUEST['Parametros'] = [name] return self self.Dame is a function that seeks for an object with the name "name" I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: because zope raises an unauthorized error How can I solve this point? Thanks! Anyone can tell me what is happening here? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 14. Juli 2006 17:17:51 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garito escribió: Anyone can tell me what is happening here? The Zope mailing list is not a helpdesk with a guaranteed response time. No need to grouch! -aj Sorry I don't pretend to be rude! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2006-7-14 07:04 +0200: ... def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): obj = getattr(self, name, None) ... I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: because zope raises an unauthorized error How can I solve this point? You can wait for the next Zope release (2.10) where this is fixed. The reason: security for "__bobo_traverse__" is much stricter than for attribute lookup: In the latter case, the security machinery knows that the value was obtained by attribute lookup and can apply the security declarations of the accessed object. In the former case, the security machinery does not know which object was really accessed and therefore refuses to look at the accessed object. This often leads to an "Unauthorized". The hack in Zope 2.10 checks in this case whether the value could as well have been obtained by attribute lookup and then checks along this route. If waiting is not an option for you, you can also backport the fix to your Zope version. Hi Dieter! In fact all my work depends on this question (this is the reason behind my nervous. Sorry again Andreas and the rest of people) Do you know how can I find information to backport the fix? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2006-7-14 07:04 +0200: ... def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): obj = getattr(self, name, None) ... I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: because zope raises an unauthorized error How can I solve this point? You can wait for the next Zope release (2.10) where this is fixed. The reason: security for "__bobo_traverse__" is much stricter than for attribute lookup: In the latter case, the security machinery knows that the value was obtained by attribute lookup and can apply the security declarations of the accessed object. In the former case, the security machinery does not know which object was really accessed and therefore refuses to look at the accessed object. This often leads to an "Unauthorized". The hack in Zope 2.10 checks in this case whether the value could as well have been obtained by attribute lookup and then checks along this route. If waiting is not an option for you, you can also backport the fix to your Zope version. Do you refer this Collector? http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2072 -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Garito escribió: Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2006-7-14 07:04 +0200: ... def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): obj = getattr(self, name, None) ... I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: because zope raises an unauthorized error How can I solve this point? You can wait for the next Zope release (2.10) where this is fixed. The reason: security for "__bobo_traverse__" is much stricter than for attribute lookup: In the latter case, the security machinery knows that the value was obtained by attribute lookup and can apply the security declarations of the accessed object. In the former case, the security machinery does not know which object was really accessed and therefore refuses to look at the accessed object. This often leads to an "Unauthorized". The hack in Zope 2.10 checks in this case whether the value could as well have been obtained by attribute lookup and then checks along this route. If waiting is not an option for you, you can also backport the fix to your Zope version. Do you refer this Collector? http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2072 I use Zope 2.9.2 -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] __bobo_traverse__ and a no-object
Alec Mitchell escribió: On 7/14/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Garito escribió: > Dieter Maurer escribió: >> Garito wrote at 2006-7-14 07:04 +0200: >> >>> ... >>> def __bobo_traverse__(self, REQUEST, name): >>>obj = getattr(self, name, None) >>> ... >>> I wonder why I can do this on a Page Template: >>> >>> >>> >>> Where Texto is a adquired property, but not this: >>> >>> >>> >>> because zope raises an unauthorized error >>> >>> How can I solve this point? >>> >> >> You can wait for the next Zope release (2.10) where this is fixed. >> >> The reason: security for "__bobo_traverse__" is much stricter >> than for attribute lookup: >> >>In the latter case, the security machinery knows that the value >>was obtained by attribute lookup and can apply the security >>declarations of the accessed object. >> >>In the former case, the security machinery does not know >>which object was really accessed and therefore refuses >>to look at the accessed object. This often leads to >>an "Unauthorized". >> >> The hack in Zope 2.10 checks in this case whether the value >> could as well have been obtained by attribute lookup and >> then checks along this route. >> >> >> If waiting is not an option for you, you can also backport >> the fix to your Zope version. >> >> >> >> > Do you refer this Collector? > > http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/2072 > I use Zope 2.9.2 Use 2.9.3 and watch your problem disappear (hopefully). Alec Completely disappeared!!! Thank you so much!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Catalog aware
Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Any Idea? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Juli 2006 15:14:54 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? Look at the CatalogAware mixin class. But with this class I could create a new class of PT Catalog aware, isn't it? I would like to convert a normal PT is this possible? I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Because Zope is not CMF and Zope is not Plone. Because you need this feature it does not mean that everyone needs this feature by default. -aj Sure but Is the cost so big? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 19. Juli 2006 09:34:58 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Juli 2006 15:14:54 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? Look at the CatalogAware mixin class. But with this class I could create a new class of PT Catalog aware, isn't it? I would like to convert a normal PT is this possible? It makes little sense to index the contents of PTs. PTs are used to present a view on a particular instance of your class but not for providing content itself. I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Because Zope is not CMF and Zope is not Plone. Because you need this feature it does not mean that everyone needs this feature by default. -aj Sure but Is the cost so big? This is not the question. If you need catalog awareness, either implement it as stated above or use one of the frameworkslittle need to discuss the pros and cons...by default Zope default content-types don't depend on the catalog. CMF and Plone depend on the catalog for various reasons. If you have the requirement to use a catalog you have the mentioned options. -aj Yes but what about something like if self.default_catalog != '': self.reindex_object() ? I think it's a question of preferences Then can I "inject" Catalog awarness to an object? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 19. Juli 2006 09:34:58 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Juli 2006 15:14:54 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? Look at the CatalogAware mixin class. But with this class I could create a new class of PT Catalog aware, isn't it? I would like to convert a normal PT is this possible? It makes little sense to index the contents of PTs. PTs are used to present a view on a particular instance of your class but not for providing content itself. I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Because Zope is not CMF and Zope is not Plone. Because you need this feature it does not mean that everyone needs this feature by default. -aj Sure but Is the cost so big? This is not the question. If you need catalog awareness, either implement it as stated above or use one of the frameworkslittle need to discuss the pros and cons...by default Zope default content-types don't depend on the catalog. CMF and Plone depend on the catalog for various reasons. If you have the requirement to use a catalog you have the mentioned options. -aj Yes but what about something like if self.default_catalog != '': self.reindex_object() ? I think it's a question of preferences Then can I "inject" Catalog awarness to an object? Yes you can. Its possible with so called monkeypatching. However if you can do that, you better just write a product w/ subclasses of the standard zope objects and your CatalogAwareness. Its easy and clean and you dont interfere with further development of zope. Regards Tino Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Can you say more about monkeypatching? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 19. Juli 2006 09:34:58 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Juli 2006 15:14:54 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! Is possible to create an object (for example a Page Template) and make it catalog aware? Look at the CatalogAware mixin class. But with this class I could create a new class of PT Catalog aware, isn't it? I would like to convert a normal PT is this possible? It makes little sense to index the contents of PTs. PTs are used to present a view on a particular instance of your class but not for providing content itself. I wonder why the objects aren't catalogable by default (I need all my object catalogables) Because Zope is not CMF and Zope is not Plone. Because you need this feature it does not mean that everyone needs this feature by default. -aj Sure but Is the cost so big? This is not the question. If you need catalog awareness, either implement it as stated above or use one of the frameworkslittle need to discuss the pros and cons...by default Zope default content-types don't depend on the catalog. CMF and Plone depend on the catalog for various reasons. If you have the requirement to use a catalog you have the mentioned options. -aj Yes but what about something like if self.default_catalog != '': self.reindex_object() ? I think it's a question of preferences Then can I "inject" Catalog awarness to an object? Yes you can. Its possible with so called monkeypatching. However if you can do that, you better just write a product w/ subclasses of the standard zope objects and your CatalogAwareness. Its easy and clean and you dont interfere with further development of zope. Regards Tino Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Yes you can. Why not? I mean you are using them - so you can use your products instead as well. Yes but what if tomorrow you create a product? need work to times: you first, me later In my opinion (is only an opinion) these is not the best situation in a future Sorry but is not so acceptable for me Can you say more about monkeypatching? If you cant figure out (google, imagination) you better dont do it :-) The code to monkey-patch is roughly the same as subclassing. So you better just subclass and use your products. Hint: you can use loops in python too .-) Kind regards Tino A! sure, I'll searched at google! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: ... Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Yes you can. Why not? I mean you are using them - so you can use your products instead as well. Yes but what if tomorrow you create a product? need work to times: you first, me later Who says you have a use for the product I create? Or if it makes sense to catalog it? If you want a cataloguing framework, why dont you use CMF or something? I want to make every class catalogable only if I point a zcatalog id (with self.default_catalog) but If I point it I want to catalogue the object Now is a search era, isn't it? Use another framework only to do the objects catalogable? I love simple things In my opinion (is only an opinion) these is not the best situation in a future Sorry but is not so acceptable for me The point is, it makes no sense to catalog Pagetemplates, Python Scripts, Folders and ZSQL Methods, Mailhosts and Database connections. These are all standard zope objects, yet they make catalogable content only in derived work or when they play together - which is a custom solution anyway. There you can add whatever cataloguing awareness you want. And if I use them dinamically (a user with the role1 use the template Ver but a user with the role2 use the template Ver1 for the same context)? (I'm not sure if I understand you clear, sorry If I make a mistake, please Can you say more about monkeypatching? If you cant figure out (google, imagination) you better dont do it :-) The code to monkey-patch is roughly the same as subclassing. So you better just subclass and use your products. Hint: you can use loops in python too .-) Kind regards Tino A! sure, I'll searched at google! great :-) Regards Tino -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: ... Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Yes you can. Why not? I mean you are using them - so you can use your products instead as well. Yes but what if tomorrow you create a product? need work to times: you first, me later Who says you have a use for the product I create? Or if it makes sense to catalog it? If you want a cataloguing framework, why dont you use CMF or something? I want to make every class catalogable only if I point a zcatalog id (with self.default_catalog) but If I point it I want to catalogue the object And what of the object do you want to catalog? Which kind of indexes do you want it to support? What kind of questions do you expect your ZCatalog (hypothetically) answered? Could you give examples? Is not important what I want to catalog, for me is important that the object *was* in the catalog (some catalogs indexes some properties some others other properties) Now is a search era, isn't it? Yes, search for what and by whom is the question here. I don't thing so. The question is who is in the catalog Use another framework only to do the objects catalogable? I love simple things So why are you trying to make standard zope objects more complicated? :) More complicated? Sure, but I don't understand the cost to make every object in Zope catalogable. A class and a variable I don't thing is a big cost And I thing in Zope when I thing in keep it simple In my opinion (is only an opinion) these is not the best situation in a future Sorry but is not so acceptable for me The point is, it makes no sense to catalog Pagetemplates, Python Scripts, Folders and ZSQL Methods, Mailhosts and Database connections. These are all standard zope objects, yet they make catalogable content only in derived work or when they play together - which is a custom solution anyway. There you can add whatever cataloguing awareness you want. And if I use them dinamically (a user with the role1 use the template Ver but a user with the role2 use the template Ver1 for the same context)? (I'm not sure if I understand you clear, sorry If I make a mistake, please This would not be supported by just adding indexing to the standard objects anyway. You would write a container which supports the bahavior you want - and while you are at it you can easily add catalogawareness to that - exactly where and in the way _you_ need it :-) Individual objects cataloguing themself would get in your way. Regards Tino Wildenhain Yes, I'm creating a specific container that works in a curious way. In that container I could catalog a Page Template when I'm adding it but perhaps sometimes I want to track its changes an so on -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: ... Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Yes you can. Why not? I mean you are using them - so you can use your products instead as well. Yes but what if tomorrow you create a product? need work to times: you first, me later Who says you have a use for the product I create? Or if it makes sense to catalog it? If you want a cataloguing framework, why dont you use CMF or something? I want to make every class catalogable only if I point a zcatalog id (with self.default_catalog) but If I point it I want to catalogue the object And what of the object do you want to catalog? Which kind of indexes do you want it to support? What kind of questions do you expect your ZCatalog (hypothetically) answered? Could you give examples? Is not important what I want to catalog, for me is important that the object *was* in the catalog (some catalogs indexes some properties some others other properties) Please read the catalog section again: there isnt the object in the catalog! Again: The object is _not_ in the catalog. Its all about usefull indexes and maybe object metadata. So again: _what_ actually do you expect to find? When I talk about was in the catalog I mean the object is catalogued I expect to find *the object* in the catalog For example: How do you know how many cousins you have? Because you are a catalog that catalog the number of cousins you have Another example: how much skills about computing do you have? Again your skills are objects that you need (as a catalog you are) to catalog Like an entity (a thing, and object) you need to know some data stored in your life added to you Now is a search era, isn't it? Yes, search for what and by whom is the question here. I don't thing so. The question is who is in the catalog Use another framework only to do the objects catalogable? I love simple things So why are you trying to make standard zope objects more complicated? :) More complicated? Sure, but I don't understand the cost to make every object in Zope catalogable. A class and a variable I don't thing is a big cost And I thing in Zope when I thing in keep it simple Yes, but its nonsense. You cant do anything more with the objects in Zope if they are catalogued. Are you sure? I can find them!!! Then if I can find them I can count them, give to you (even if its don't depend on me, remember your skills or your cousins?) I want to create an object that acts like an entity (like a human or a mortage or a paper or a product -that you can sell) These entity need to know how is it (its properties, its characteristics) I ask myself if I know myself but I only know about myself all I can catalogue In my opinion (is only an opinion) these is not the best situation in a future Sorry but is not so acceptable for me The point is, it makes no sense to catalog Pagetemplates, Python Scripts, Folders and ZSQL Methods, Mailhosts and Database connections. These are all standard zope objects, yet they make catalogable content only in derived work or when they play together - which is a custom solution anyway. There you can add whatever cataloguing awareness you want. And if I use them dinamically (a user with the role1 use the template Ver but a user with the role2 use the template Ver1 for the same context)? (I'm not sure if I understand you clear, sorry If I make a mistake, please This would not be supported by just adding indexing to the standard objects anyway. You would write a container which supports the bahavior you want - and while you are at it you can easily add catalogawareness to that - exactly where and in the way _you_ need it :-) Individual objects cataloguing themself would get in your way. Regards Tino Wildenhain Yes, I'm creating a specific container that works in a curious way. In that container I could catalog a Page Template when I'm adding it but perhaps sometimes I want to track its changes an so on Yes, but who should know what _you_ want your objects to do? You cannot expect all people (especially the ones writing zope core) to guess your needs - you are the one to express your wishes in the form of code :-) If you end up having a general solution (like these frameworks are) you can share them with others. Regards Tino I don't expect anyone guess my needs (is for that I need to develop the class) :) I only ask if I can add some super classes to an object when I create it :) I know my needs are so particular but I want to create something new with a new perspective. If I can the result will be very curious (I suppose, I expect even) I choose Zop
Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 04.00/04.00] Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: Tino Wildenhain escribió: Garito wrote: ... Sure, but I can't create a new product for every product I'll use only to do it catalog aware, isn't it? Yes you can. Why not? I mean you are using them - so you can use your products instead as well. Yes but what if tomorrow you create a product? need work to times: you first, me later Who says you have a use for the product I create? Or if it makes sense to catalog it? If you want a cataloguing framework, why dont you use CMF or something? I want to make every class catalogable only if I point a zcatalog id (with self.default_catalog) but If I point it I want to catalogue the object And what of the object do you want to catalog? Which kind of indexes do you want it to support? What kind of questions do you expect your ZCatalog (hypothetically) answered? Could you give examples? Is not important what I want to catalog, for me is important that the object *was* in the catalog (some catalogs indexes some properties some others other properties) Please read the catalog section again: there isnt the object in the catalog! Again: The object is _not_ in the catalog. Its all about usefull indexes and maybe object metadata. So again: _what_ actually do you expect to find? When I talk about was in the catalog I mean the object is catalogued I expect to find *the object* in the catalog For example: How do you know how many cousins you have? Because you are a catalog that catalog the number of cousins you have So you want to count objects based on their meta_type? Of what use would be such an information? What if you know how many pagetemplates you have? :-) Why not? It depends on the nature of the entity If I know now many pagetemplates has an entity I could show it to the user Because I make some curious use of the objects of Zope, for me every object will be a functionality, something the object can do, then I want to know everything about the entity Another example: how much skills about computing do you have? Again your skills are objects that you need (as a catalog you are) to catalog We have a skills object in plain zope now? Thats news for me. not now but I can develep it if I need Like an entity (a thing, and object) you need to know some data stored in your life added to you Yes, but a zcatalog cannot work with "some data" - you need to specify exactly _which_ data you want to find. So what exacly is this on standard Zope objects? My entity has some default indexes like meta_type or owner, etc but you could be creative in order to create new ones. It only depends on your needs .. Yes, but its nonsense. You cant do anything more with the objects in Zope if they are catalogued. Are you sure? I can find them!!! Then if I can find them I can count them, give to you (even if its don't depend on me, remember your skills or your cousins?) Ah yes, which zope product stores cousin data? Do you want to store cousins data? you need to create an object that stores cousin data I want to create an object that acts like an entity (like a human or a mortage or a paper or a product -that you can sell) Yes, you crate it - you define its cataloguing. So what is your business with standard zope objects here? They are funcionality to my entity. If the entity has a functionality that sends mails the entity need to has a mail host object but It's not important where do you create it if the entity catalogue it (you can always find it if you ask to the entity catalog) These entity need to know how is it (its properties, its characteristics) You cant barely catalog all properties - the catalog would not even know if this property is meant as keyword or fulltext or whatever... don't worry! I want to find them. It's not important what they are or where they are I ask myself if I know myself but I only know about myself all I can catalogue ... Regards Tino I don't expect anyone guess my needs (is for that I need to develop the class) :) I only ask if I can add some super classes to an object when I create it :) You can, you just add it. Its there and you even know its name. So what was your problem again? :-) They way to add it (but you point me to find at google monkeypatch isn't it? Thanks again) I know my needs are so particular but I want to create something new with a new perspective. If I can the result will be very curious (I suppose, I expect even) I choose Zope because is the most near to my finall result Exactly :-) Regards TIno -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encod
Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 04.00/04.00] Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Martijn Pieters escribió: Please don't email me personally; let's keep this discussion on the list. Garito wrote: Yes, the indexes depends on the entity (I don't know what indexes I use until I define the entity but I need to catalog every characteristic of the entity) For example if I have a entity with a container where to put my cousins information I will catalog a keyword index called (is an example, remeber) HowMuch that counts the number of the objects stored in the container Or if I talk about skills I will catalogue the marks or the way to print the certificate of excelence (again an example) But then you can create specific subclasses that are catalog aware. What standard objects would you use to implement this? You have a specific, non-generic use-case that has already been catered for by the framework. I can't subclass every class I need. These will need to reajust (subclass) every new case For example: Now I know I need Page Templates and Script Python catalogaware, then I subclass them and I finish the work, good But tomorrow I need a Mail host catalogaware, begin again and create a subclass for Mail host I would like if there are a generic way to add catalogawareness by code. If there are my problem about catalogawareness finish Making all Zope objects catalog aware by default makes no sense though. You have yet to come with a compelling generic use-case, let alone with one that convinces me. Why catalog database connectors for example? What kind of search are you performing? Please, don't think in a particular case, think a way to do that if you need No, we need a use-case. Otherwise you have what we call a YAGNI, a "You aint gonna need it" feature that noone will maintain because noone uses it. A vague notion that you'd like to see this for your application is not a use-case. I use these feature then YAGNI converts to AGUT (at least Garito use these) ;) Again I know these way is a very particular way, nothing more When Zopers define what Zope will be they thing in a particular use case? Or Ploners or CMFers? I don't think so I have a very clear model on my brain that is possible with more or less code What I'm trying is to reduce the length of the code I need to put these model at Zope Have you thought about the potential problems of making all objects catalog-aware by default, like potential conflicts and side-effects? What kind of side-effects or conflicts (put an example to understand, please) Catalog indexes retrieve their infomation from the object, through a named attribute. If that attribute is callable, the index calls it, so it executes the code. That may have side effects not originally forseen because the original code never anticipated being indexed. This can happen when the attribute name can mean different things in different contexts. Zope is a complex beast, and the idea of making everything catalog aware is not going to play well. Sure but Zopers don't stops these way only because someone could use it in a wrong way But I can understand the side effects (thanks for the example, it clears my doubt) Why making everything catalog aware is not going to play well? I only want catalog aware what is on my products area (sometimes bigger than others) I say a big -infinity from me on the whole idea. I can't understand the last sentence (my english is a kid english, sorry again!) It means I say no to the idea. A big no. Well, sorry for that! Martijn Pieters -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [***SPAM*** Score/Req: 04.00/04.00] Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Martijn Pieters escribió: On 7/20/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, we need a use-case. Otherwise you have what we call a YAGNI, a "You > aint gonna need it" feature that noone will maintain because noone uses it. > > A vague notion that you'd like to see this for your application is not a > use-case. > I use these feature then YAGNI converts to AGUT (at least Garito use these) ;) Again I know these way is a very particular way, nothing more So, one isolated case doesn't make a generic use case. You still haven't given us your particular application, only vague handwaving about how the way you are implementing your ideas needs a catalog. Until there is a clearly described general need for a feature like generic catalog-awareness, there is no case for such a feature to go into the core of Zope. I must say that of what I have been able to understand of what you are doing, it sounds to me as if you are approaching your problem in the wrong way. Page Templates and Python Scripts are there to implement application code and presentation, not store application data. The catalog is a means to find application data based on various aspects of that data. So Zope provides you with framework code that makes it easy for your data objects to re-catalogue themselves on changes, but all the application support objects don't implement this because they don't, normally, contain data. If your implementation relies on Python Scripts or Page Templates to contain application data, you are using the framework in a way it was not designed to do (for a good reason)! If so, rethink your application, instead of trying to make the framework fit. Ok, a real case: I'm working on a data system (I like the concept data system) for a friend He is Dj for that I want to create a concept like Session Form -> A formulator See -> Used to view the session on its default view Ask -> Used to view the session to change it data (to modify the object) Edit -> Used to change the properties (via Ask view) ... Ask will be something like As you can see a lot of entities will use the same Ask I will create a container to store all these kind of functionality to use is as a generic Ask In a normal way I can use adquisition to make these way but I want to store things with some kind of order then I define something like MyFriendsWeb (this is an entity) Forms (is not an entity but I use the same product to create it) Session -> Formulator Production -> Formulator Functionality (is not an entity but I use the same product to create it) Ask See Edit Session (this is an entity) Form -> points to MyFriendsWeb/Forms/Session See -> Will use the generic one Ask -> this one too (the generic one) ... Production (this is an entity) Form -> points to MyFriendsWeb/Forms/Production See -> Will use the generic one Ask -> this one too (the generic one) MyFriendsWeb is an entity for that reason catalog everything that not in another entity like Session Session is another entity for that catalog See (the pointer one not the real See), Ask (like See is a pointer) and so on What I want is semantic structure not only usefull structure that makes that every entity will know everything it can do or be With my model I use my product for every container, formulators/page templates/script pythons like functionality an so on My product is about 300 lines of code but I can describe everything I need Is like Plone but with 300 lines of code My model works but I would like if its possible to use something like or instead of It works, its only a question of use it as simple as I can For that my product is a ZCatalog with a property Entity (boolean) If you mark Entity as true for an object every objects below these one are catalogued by my product I use an override of __bobo_traverse__ and __call__ What do you think? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Catalog aware
Lennart Regebro escribió: On 7/19/06, Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at the CatalogAware mixin class. But with this class I could create a new class of PT Catalog aware, isn't it? Yup. I would like to convert a normal PT is this possible?' Yes, with monkeypatches, but really, you don't want to go that way. This feels to me as a case of you asking the question you THINK is the problem, because thats the problem you have right now. But often when that happens you have been running in the wrong direction for a while. It's like somebody asking how to break down a wall to get to the mall on the other side, when the best way to get to the wall is to get out of the dead-end street and then take left. :) So in short: Why on earth would you want page templates to be catalogaware? :) Sure but Is the cost so big? Yes. Ok, I'll rethink the question and try another aproach Thanks by now! (I'll ask you later if needed) -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Acquisition question
Ferhat Ayaz escribió: Hi list, I'm a newby to zope. Sorry if the question is to dummy. Here my question: You can do acquisition on URL like http://localhost:8080/employee_by_id/emp_id/2/viewEmployee here the result of employee_by_id (param is emp_id=2) is used by viewEmployee. But I want to use it in a page template like Unfortunatly this will not work like the above example. Is it possible to do acquisition in this way, or is there a way to this? Thanks, Ferhat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) At this point if employee_by_id is the first param then all are on traverse_subpath list like: ['employee_by_id', 'emp_id', 2, 'viewEmployee'] then you could use this list to know what your user is asking for Sorry for my poor english -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] manage_beforeDelete
Hi all! I have a class like these: class Test(CatalogAware, , OrderedFolder): def manage_beforeDelete(self, item, container): CatalogAware.manage_beforeDelete(item, container) OrderedFolder.manage_beforeDelete(item, container) I only put the relevant code If I delete de hook to manage_beforeDelete the class works fine (the objects disappear from the catalog) but if I put the function the catalog don't delete the objects any idea? Thanks!! ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] How to do...
Hi all! How can I control the way an attribute of a product is readed? __getattr__? __getattribute__? I try the __getattribute__ way but it modifies the property pages Example: I create an object instance of the product and like: Property1 = 'Some text' Property2 = 2006-10-18 I would like to call Property2 like object.Property2 and retrieve the data with the current locale For spanish locale I would like to retrieve 18-10-2006 But if I read the property pages of this object I would like to conserve the given data Is this possible? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Oktober 2006 16:15:37 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! How can I control the way an attribute of a product is readed? __getattr__? __getattribute__? I try the __getattribute__ way but it modifies the property pages Example: I create an object instance of the product and like: Property1 = 'Some text' Property2 = 2006-10-18 I would like to call Property2 like object.Property2 and retrieve the data with the current locale Don't do that. Make a clear separation between the storage layer and any kind of presentation issues. If you need your internal data represented in a fancy way, write a dedicated accessor method and use this one inside your templates (or whatever) instead of accessing the data directly. -aj Then I can't create a property that stores a tal expression for example? I would like to write things like: object.property = 'here/anotherproperty' object.anotherproperty = 'Barcelona' and ask it like: print object.property -> 'Barcelona' or -> 'Barcelona' Is this possible? Thanks!!! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Oktober 2006 18:53:05 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Oktober 2006 16:15:37 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all! How can I control the way an attribute of a product is readed? __getattr__? __getattribute__? I try the __getattribute__ way but it modifies the property pages Example: I create an object instance of the product and like: Property1 = 'Some text' Property2 = 2006-10-18 I would like to call Property2 like object.Property2 and retrieve the data with the current locale Don't do that. Make a clear separation between the storage layer and any kind of presentation issues. If you need your internal data represented in a fancy way, write a dedicated accessor method and use this one inside your templates (or whatever) instead of accessing the data directly. -aj Then I can't create a property that stores a tal expression for example? I would like to write things like: object.property = 'here/anotherproperty' object.anotherproperty = 'Barcelona' and ask it like: print object.property -> 'Barcelona' or -> 'Barcelona' This posting is totally weird. Sorry, but I have really no idea what you're trying to do. It makes absolutely no sense. -aj I only try to create a model but I'm searching the best way to create it I try to create properties "like" this is (in the last example): object.property "is like" object.anotherproperty Is this possible? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Oktober 2006 19:17:42 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I only try to create a model but I'm searching the best way to create it I try to create properties "like" this is (in the last example): object.property "is like" object.anotherproperty You got already multiple advices. Write a method "anotherproperty()" and do whatever you like with in this method. You can call it from TALES as here/anotherproperty. TALES bascially deals with attributes and methods in the same way. -aj Sure! But I need to write a method for every "like" property but I would like (if is possible) a way to evaluate if a property is a TALES property automatically Perhaps the property could begin like "tal:http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 18. Oktober 2006 19:41:07 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You got already multiple advices. Write a method "anotherproperty()" and do whatever you like with in this method. You can call it from TALES as here/anotherproperty. TALES bascially deals with attributes and methods in the same way. -aj Sure! But I need to write a method for every "like" property but I would like (if is possible) a way to evaluate if a property is a TALES property automatically Do you *really*, *really*, *really* need this feature? You can of course implement your own __getattr__() methodbut every Python programmer would likely slap you left and right...these are the last comments on this issue.. it's still to weird in my opinion. -aj Yes I think about __getattr__() method but I don't have any idea about how to retrive the original property And another question about this is if implementing __getattr__ method the property manager works ok or not (for me works ok if property manager displays the tal expression instead of the process of the expression will __getattr_ be the method I'm looking for? Thanks Aj and sorry for my weird questions -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Dieter Maurer escribió:
Garito wrote at 2006-10-18 16:15 +0200:
...
How can I control the way an attribute of a product is readed?
__getattr__? __getattribute__?
A "product" is an extension mechanism for Zope. Usually, a
"product" does not have attributes (you are interested in).
But inside your product you may have defined classes
instances of which you place into the Zope hierarchy
(<http://www.dieter.handshake.de/pyprojects/zope/book/chap3.html>
speaks about site building objects).
The standard Python way to access their attributes ("__getattr__"
and "__getattribute__") will work but has caveats: It is *very* easy
to create infinite loops with it and their "self" with not be
acquisition wrapped.
The Zope specific safer way is to implement "__bobo_traverse__".
Both the publisher as well as "[un]restrictedTraverse" (which
is internally used by TALES path expressions) use "__bobo_traverse__"
when defined. However, Python's "getattr" will not use it.
Hi, Dieter!
How can I create an accessor to read (not to write) and preprocess all
properties?
Thanks!
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Re: [Zope] How to do...
Chris Withers escribió: Garito wrote: object.Property2 and retrieve the data with the current locale For spanish locale I would like to retrieve 18-10-2006 Rather than torturing yourself with all this weirdness, maybe you should look at using Zope 3's locale support in your app, whether it's zope 2 or zope 3... cheers, Chris Sure, but I don't need only localization, I need to preprocess the properties before read them Is this possible? -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Dieter Maurer escribió: Garito wrote at 2006-10-18 20:27 +0200: How can I create an accessor to read (not to write) and preprocess all properties? If you are only willing to write a single method that should do for all properties, then you will need to use "__getattr__". You remember I have warned you: "__getattr__" is difficult and error prone! Even me, I have spend hours to understand why I get occasional "__getattr__" infinite loops... And I know, in principle, all the potential caveats... Can you point me to some example/product to try to avoid this kind of errors? Thanks a lot! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 20. Oktober 2006 14:20:51 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And I know, in principle, all the potential caveats... Can you point me to some example/product to try to avoid this kind of errors? You got already multiple useful advices how to proceed. Take one! Follow the road that almost all reasonable Zope developers would use: write your own accessor methods or use ComputedAttribute or work with Python properties. But you should forget your (weird) idea. Get it out of your head. Now! -aj Sorry but you don't know the whole project If there are a test to do I'll do it because I need to evaluate if Zope is my solution or not There are things on Zope that I like a lot but there are things I don't If Zope is not my solution I need to found the right solution No weird anything: Zope could do the work or not, easy, don't you thing so? Perhaps Zope 3? I don't know (I'm asking to you) But, please, don't tell me to forget my idea is like if I tell you what I think about the things I don't like about Zope and the I says: Zopers, forget Zope because I don't like ZClass or DTML Sorry again (for my expressions fault) -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 20. Oktober 2006 14:41:58 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -aj Sorry but you don't know the whole project No project can be as scary as your requirements of your original posting :-) If there are a test to do I'll do it because I need to evaluate if Zope is my solution or not Zope and Python are likely a prefect choice to your (unknown) problem but you need to understand some basic principles of both. But, please, don't tell me to forget my idea is like if I tell you what I think about the things I don't like about Zope and the I says: Zopers, forget Zope because I don't like ZClass or DTML So why don't you follow the "standard" way? Dieter pointed you using __getattr__() but I doubt that it is the right choice for you because you with your small Python background you will definitely run into problems that will be hard for you to be resolved on your own. So take the common road. This is less painful. -aj I agree with you: my Python background is uncompleted but I'll learn Python/Zope as deep as I need to create the product I'm looking for There are some Zope standard ways to do the job but my experience tells me to avoid some programmers responsability because programmers make mistakes (I know it because I make mistakes ;-) ) The requieriment of my product is to be simple to use even if the morphology of this product is a little hard or weird The simplest way is to implement the "general accessor" as I thing but I don't know if Zope do it possible If not I can find another way to do the same but the accessor way seems the *simplest* one I try to find the mother cell to describe *every* entity. Is that goal what is weird but, boys, weird problems wants weird solutions Perhaps new ways begins as weird projects If you thing __getattr__ will be the solutions perhaps I could try it but if you point me to avoid the recursive problems I could do the job Can you point me to a product or a paper to understand the __getattr__ problems? Thanks! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to do...
Andreas Jung escribió: --On 20. Oktober 2006 15:08:26 +0200 Garito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you thing __getattr__ will be the solutions perhaps I could try it but if you point me to avoid the recursive problems I could do the job Can you point me to a product or a paper to understand the __getattr__ problems? Dieter told you already that you will into infinite recursions when accessing attrs of the same instance within __getattr__(). You should be able to find about related threads by using Google. I hope you can extract the magic Google words from this thread. -aj A, ok! Sure I'll search at google and I'll be back with more explicit questions Thanks a lot! -- Mis Cosas http://blogs.sistes.net/Garito ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
