(313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread kent williams
Not to stir the pot, but I've been practicing making tracks with a computer for 12 years. In that time I've come up with 3 tracks I felt confident about putting on vinyl, and I've had 3 or 4 tracks on Internet comps. Terrence Parker took one of my tracks for his 'Maximum Ice' CD, for which I

(313) Transmat-sponsored picnic at Belle Isle, Detroit (Saturday 9/2/06)

2006-09-02 Thread darnistle
Just saw this on detroitluv.com. Looks like it might be fun... http://www.detroitluv.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=d265e7b0537eb980914b24e224d103f5;topic=35714.0 If your browser mangles the long URL, go to http://www.detroitluv.com/ and scroll down to the section 7 Nights in the D. Click on the Aaron

(313) re: rush

2006-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
all this machinery making modern music can still be open hearted no so coldly charted its really just a question of your honesty one likes to believe in the freedom of music but glittering prizes and endless comprimises shatter the illusion of integrity rush spirit of radio

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
but maybe we haven't seen the Ron Hardy or Derrick May of the laptop yet. But it's silly to argue that computers, in and of themselves, are the problem. no, true. it's the lifeless,stiff, ear-scratching bright sound that is the problem.. it's like a plastic doll,with or without make-up it's

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread kent williams
Record your mixdowns to a reel to reel. Or better yet, cut it to a 78 lacquer. Fetishing old gear is ultimately as irrelevant as fetishing new gear. It sounds like you've been listening to the wrong records. You don't have to convince me that analog recordings sound nice, but anyone who makes

RE: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Ralf Gill \(healthAlliance\)
Is it an analogue or a digital laptop? -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 2 September 2006 1:30 p.m. To: list 313 Subject: (313) The Laptop Debate. Not to stir the pot, but I've been practicing making tracks with a computer for 12 years. In

(313) Teknology September session available !

2006-09-02 Thread Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike
Thanks for the feedback about July/August sessions. This one is more longer and maybe a bit less harder. Peace to all, have a nice weekend. Dimitri Pike 'Techno Digital DJ Mix 03' 01 - Jeff Mills 'Imagine' (Axis) 02 - Jeff Mills 'Systematic' (Axis) 03 - Galaxy 2 Galaxy 'HiTech Jazz'

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Martin Dust
snip And they were doing it before there was anyone telling them how to do it. They had to master an unwieldy, complicated instrument, and make it sing. And there was always that moments of excitement in the track that would be irretrievable if the DA30 ate the DAT. You can still get the

Re: (313) Teknology September session available !

2006-09-02 Thread Martin Dust
Grabbing now, thanks for including some of our tracks D... m - Original Message - From: Wildtek Concept / DJ Dimitri Pike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the feedback about July/August sessions. This one is more longer and maybe a bit less harder. Peace to all, have a nice weekend.

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Neil Wiernik
I agree with martin this whole laptop or computer music is not as warm sounding as analogue gear is a compleatly irrellivent argument. I have ehard tracks made using all sorts of tools and its not the tools that make some thing warm or cool soundings its the maker ... the person behind the

(313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread marina pure sonik
Yep, and it can be more than one too. Mine would be Moulzon's Electric Band - Everybody Get Down, for starters. -m.

RE: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Taylor
Bohannon - Let's Start To Dance - of course! -Original Message- From: marina pure sonik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2006 16:18 To: list 313 Subject: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor??? Yep, and it can be more than one too. Mine would

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread marina pure sonik
A, yeah! Another one that'll make me laugh all the way to the dance floor is Modern Romance - Can You Move -m. On Sep 2, 2006, at 12:23 PM, Robert Taylor wrote: Bohannon - Let's Start To Dance - of course! -Original Message- From: marina pure sonik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
show me a 100% pc-made trak that would sound even close to rod modell's deepchord 14 or rhythm n sound's carrier. speaking of rod - any of his traks on ecchocord. or afx's blue calx or laricheard or mike parker's caesura 1 or andres' LP on mahogani/ kdj 29 either you're all joking..or you

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
and i dont say digital is bad - not at all - i.e. look at convextion..much of his stuff sounds really good. i dont know about his whole audio signal circuitry but i remember he was using a digital jd800 as sound source for many of his track.. it aint deepchord,but still much more ear pleasing

RE: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread Robert Taylor
This laptop debate is very boring - it's too cold and emotionless - it doesn't have enough warmth and crackle :P -Original Message- From: v12 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 September 2006 17:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices. and i

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Brian Prince
it's the lifeless,stiff, ear-scratching bright sound that is the problem.. It's possible to make a digital track sound convincingly analog in any decent software package. Soft saturation on the EQ, tape compression, add a little hiss ... nobody will know the difference. Record an analog track to

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Brian Prince
v12 wrote: the stuff i got on warp cassettes [tri repetae/chiastic slide] appeared to sound miserable on cd and so on blablabla That's because you're listenting to two different mastering pipelines, dude. Record the tapes to CD and they'll sound identical. Otherwise, I've got a $6000 power

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread kent williams
I'd cite some of Lusine's work, and Jan Jellinek, and Fennesz Endless Summer, but you might not like them, or hear the musicality and warmth I do in them. I love the way cassettes sound too -- but then I end up digitizing that sound. Sad fact is everything goes through a computer at some point.

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 9/2/06, marina pure sonik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A, yeah! Another one that'll make me laugh all the way to the dance floor is Modern Romance - Can You Move didnt richie hawtin drop that track recently? sike naw. for me its gotta be class action weekend. that joint always does the

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread Detroit Techno Militia
Seawolf - World Power Alliance On 9/2/06, marina pure sonik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, and it can be more than one too. Mine would be Moulzon's Electric Band - Everybody Get Down, for starters. -m. -- Detroit Techno Militia http://www.detroittechnomilitia.com

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread Jernej Marusic
You should print the thread and read it on paper, that will add some warmth to it :) or even transcribe it down to paper and than read it :)) IMHO it's best to use best of both worlds. For pure sound analog sounds better than software, but software can do some things that no analog hardware

Re: (313) What's the one track that will make you hit the dancefloor???

2006-09-02 Thread Carlos de Brito
moodymann - i can't kick this feelin' when it hits kano - it's a war (serge santiago edit)

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread Dale Lawrence
Don't try too hard to fight the tool you are using. Keyboards came out and people did try to use them to make 'real' sounds, and as the technology progressed they were able to achieve that to some degree-- that's when old-school analog came back into fashion People started to celebrate

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
You should print the thread and read it on paper, that will add some warmth to it :) or even transcribe it down to paper and than read it :)) ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread chthonic streams
Not to stir the pot, stir please, what else are email discussion lists for? That being a lot of my favorite Detroit and Chicago tracks were made in a certain way that I think made them more exciting. Specifically, it's setting up a bunch of gear and recording it live to two track, with one

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread v12
It's possible to make a digital track sound convincingly analog in any decent software package. Soft saturation on the EQ, tape compression, add a little hiss ... nobody will know the difference. nobody? it's all futile attempt - analog devices lacked stability,that meant milions un-copyable

(313) wtf?

2006-09-02 Thread chthonic streams
i sent 2 replies to the laptop thread, one with identical subject line and one changed - and neither has shown up yet. what's going on with this listserver? idm-l is on hyperreal and doesn't have this issue. d. (wondering if this will get through)

(313) The Laptop Debate - 2nd try

2006-09-02 Thread chthonic streams
Not to stir the pot, stir please, what else are email discussion lists for? That being a lot of my favorite Detroit and Chicago tracks were made in a certain way that I think made them more exciting. Specifically, it's setting up a bunch of gear and recording it live to two track, with one

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread Dale Lawrence
^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage.

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate.

2006-09-02 Thread chthonic streams
Not to stir the pot, stir please, what else are email discussion lists for? That being a lot of my favorite Detroit and Chicago tracks were made in a certain way that I think made them more exciting. Specifically, it's setting up a bunch of gear and recording it live to two track, with one

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage. i think he might have been referring

Re: (313) The Laptop Debate/other digital devices.

2006-09-02 Thread Dale Lawrence
At 05:25 PM 9/2/2006, you wrote: On 9/2/06, Dale Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ^guess what - if a post is longer than say 15-20 lines i do print it. unless it's some pointless nonsense by someone i know he couldnt come up with anything relevant) I hate that. Just delete that sewage. i