>you can add your own influence to something else. hiphop culture is
>all over the globe now, and it has been mutated and added on to. i
>personally think all of this stuff sucks, but at least it is being
>done by people who live that culture as best as it is done in their
>country. spank rock and
On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
haha you are crazy.
i never said i wasnt.
says who? are you kidding? i didnt even control how i was marketed with
mo'wax/platinum projects, hence, they spelled my name wrong
so you didnt sign with them in the first place? if you wanted to be
mark
On 6/27/07, Magnus Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Tom,
ahem as far as I know, Spank Rock are not all white:
http://www.spankrock.net/
i addressed that point in another post.
Director James Spooner, maker of the Movie afro punk
even devines their music as "Afro Punk" -
and "Afro Punk"
On 6/27/07, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
you've got a massive case of white guilt or self loathing or a bit or both.
the only white people i loathe are those like you, jokers.
tom
>its not cultural politics, its whats right and whats wrong.
hahaha ho-kay
>he should have said "this is wrong, i am not the king of rock and
>roll, this is all nonsense, these are the people who made this music,
>they should be getting paid and be popular". obviously, he never did
>anything of t
its a classic debate here, ain't it?
Elvis, or the Beatles and the Rolling Stones with respect to Rock & Roll and
the Blues, Little Richard, etc. (or even Beastie Boys, Eminem, etc?)
I agree with J.T. comment about blame society not the artist.
if an artists work reflects influence of somet
well good thing you're just some idiot that works at a record store and not
anyone with any influence, because again, you're spewing idiotic nonsense.
you've got a massive case of white guilt or self loathing or a bit or both.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <[EMAIL PROT
On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that's all cultural politics, which concerns me, but it's beside the fact of
whether the
music is good or not, and while i can't say it doesn't affect my opinion of
music if i know
the backstory etc, i don't think it should.
its not cultural politi
I'll look when I get home tonite after work. But I was playing it the
other day so it shouldn't be hard to find. Bought it in like 99-2000
maybe? It's a reggae kinda joint, but not all druggy and delayed out.
Just wobbly bass and some bouncy stabs and that guy going on. Fxcking
great tune too. I'll
Yeah I saw this flyer at Submerge. I got the impression that his
clothes are out of my price range!
You and me both! I couldnt even find a t-shirt for less than $100 when I
was there. You could easily drop $1000 on a few shirts or a couple of
dresses.
The shop is pretty chic. It is all blac
Yeah I saw this flyer at Submerge. I got the impression that his
clothes are out of my price range!
On 6/27/07, John Sokolowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Just got this in my inbox. I signed up for the Gamma Player newsletter when
I was in the shop a few months back…
___
GOOD FOR PARTY PRES
>its not about straight up stealing a sound, its about getting popular
>with a watered down version of something that isnt even his to water
>down. theyre the elvises of club music.
that's all cultural politics, which concerns me, but it's beside the fact of
whether the music is good or not, and
Vetoed? Pah!
Yeah it was quite nice - not what I was expecting really as I though it was
going to be pretty full-on (hence the comments about
looking forward to playing the Delsins).
However it turned out more of a social event (if more twisted than you'd
normally associate with that).
Some pics
Just got this in my inbox. I signed up for the Gamma Player newsletter when
I was in the shop a few months back
___
GOOD FOR PARTY PRESENTS:
LET THERE BE LIGHT
EARTH. AIR. FIRE. WATER.
A demonstration of design, substance, and revealing illumination. A runway
and live mannequin show exhib
Spank Rock: I think "Bump" just owns it in a pitched up +8 nasty like Kelly
Bundy sort of way. Much of the rest of their stuff I could take or leave.
Roots manuva: haven't heard a whole lot but that "Jungle Tings Proper" track
from the Chocolate Industries comp was pretty dope.
Jeff Davis
I think so! it was fresh in my mind 2 weeks ago but now i cna't
remember.. the bass so deep that i can't even hear it very much on the
video!
So what is it? ;)
On 6/26/07, Stoddard, Kamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Did you ever get an answer for this? Just catching up and I think I
might have t
yeah... maybe its a purist thing I guess.
and for myself I do collect the baltimore club stuff with I suppose a purist
mindset sort of too... I definitely get the spank rock / tittsworth / Ayres /
bamabounce stuff but see it as a different creature (offspring) of sorts.
b.t.w. on the "you d
Hi - lurker here - isn't this simply called "appropriation"? And I
don't even mean that in any specific racial context, since I think you
could frame it in terms of generation or even just in terms of
"scenes".
but anyway, yeah, Spankrock and supposed "white scenesters" are doing
their thing and
On 6/27/07, Rob G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I mean, on this board is anyone here still got beef with people in the UK
becoming fans of hey-day late 80's techno from Detroit and Chicago... and
(fake gasp) making their own takes on those styles?
i have no beef, but as with UK emcees and the lik
Space Ape is a really good MC live...
m
On Jun 27, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr. wrote:
usually though, the people who make it
are the ones who break it out. now suddenly, we're seeing hipster
appropriations become the standard while no one else is getting the
props they deserve. its weak.
Not a recent thing unfortunately. S
On 6/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What's the general verdict on Roots Manuva ?
I've not heard any new material from him for a while but I still love Brand
New Second Hand, Run Come Save Me & Dub Come Save Me.
He's the best UK MC that I know of.
i agree, and i like him
On 6/27/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i dunno man, sometimes it's unfair to blame the artist. blame the
hypemachine(s).
everything i've read about him is very humble and straightforward -- and
doesn't even
mention bmore. it's all nyc...i dunno. other bmore stuff can blow up in it's
own
On 6/27/07, Tristan Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Man, I really never got into that stuff when I lived there. It just sounded
like garbage re-hashed hardcore with incredibly tired beat samples to me. It
still eludes me.
its just another variation on the ghetto tech/booty house/miami bass
>Man, I really never got into that stuff when I lived there. It just sounded
>like garbage re-hashed hardcore with incredibly tired beat samples to me. It
there's a lot of that. but it's not all that. there's some gems.
everybody who's really cool is playing kuduru now tho :P
I like him very much but I'm sure in the UK he's considered fairly
mainstream.
I enjoy his low slung delivery.
MEK
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/27/2007 10:11:15 AM:
>
>
>
> What's the general verdict on Roots Manuva ?
>
> I've not heard any new material from him for a while but I still love
What's the general verdict on Roots Manuva ?
I've not heard any new material from him for a while but I still love Brand
New Second Hand, Run Come Save Me & Dub Come Save Me.
He's the best UK MC that I know of.
I'm looking forward to checking out some of these recommendations tho.
Kind rega
check that out - 3 different ways to spell his name
;-)
will the real janiero/jniero/jneiro please stand up!
MEK
"Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/27/2007 07:38:53 AM:
>
>
> >> also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero
> >> jarel)
> >
> > Jniero's music is
> jazzy and hip
funny how "hip" gets associated with jazzy but not with the party stuff -
which has a hip factor that's different but all its own
just sayin'
MEK
On the british tip, any MC that tries to sound American is as weak as
almost all Americans who try to make Drum and Bass. People I have
respect for -- like the Streets, and Goldie Lookin Chains -- aren't
even trying to make real hip hop: they're doing something uniquely
British. They don't hit m
My friend Kirk who has the Record Collector here
(recordcollectorinc.com) has seen the bottom completely drop out of
dance vinyl sales. This corresponds with several local DJs who used
to buy a couple hundred dollars a month in vinyl from him switching to
Serrato or Final Scratch or Tractor Scra
strange strange
it always is the right time for them... !
;-)
On 26/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Liking them and was v. disappointed that the time never seemed right
to drop
them at our party on Sat night.
- Original Message -
From: "J.T." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas D. Cox,Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:55 AM
Subject: Re: (313) Justice
i mean, i dont know how much time youve spent in bmore, but one of the
great things about it is club
On 26/06/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Liking them and was v. disappointed that the time never seemed right to drop
them at our party on Sat night.
How''d the party go? I couldn't make it unfortunately as I got vetoed
by the Missus.
also on the dope instrumental hiphop tip, Dr. Who Dat? (aka janiero
jarel)
Jniero's music is solid - Three Piece Puzzle has been on heavy rotation
here for the last two years
Lex records is a fine label too
MEK
yeah, jneiro jarel does it for me. the instrumental album was 'beat
journey',
>down to it from time to time. it reminds me of a cross between UK
>hardcore and dance mania, combining 2 of my loves.
hehe yep, that's totally what it is, with sloppier sampling
>i mean, i dont know how much time youve spent in bmore, but one of the
>great things about it is club music. they roc
oh yeah, lil uno from the pack is not lil uno the latino mc.
the pack are too short proteges btw, one of them is his nephew.
i mostly just like the slow minimal 808 ones, not the faster electro-rap jams,
they're ok but nothing unique
On 6/26/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
damm why is everybody so defensive today? i don't care how long you've been
down with
it, i just didn't think it was your style.
i actually love club music, its not something i listen to constantly,
but i always bump it in the ride when im in bmore
>because someone else who really does it should, rod lee, technics,
>etc. ive been down with the club music for a long minute now, i never
>heard of them until suddenly it started getting hyped up by other
>white deejays.
damm why is everybody so defensive today? i don't care how long you've been
On 6/26/07, J.T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
representing what? bmore? why shouldn't they?
because someone else who really does it should, rod lee, technics,
etc. ive been down with the club music for a long minute now, i never
heard of them until suddenly it started getting hyped up by other
w
>> i certainly wouldnt call spank rock boring
>nah, but id call them pretty terrible. theyre right up there with
>tittworth and ayres, diplo, etc in that "why are these guys out there
>representing this kind of music?!?!?!" category for me.
representing what? bmore? why shouldn't they? do you not
sign o the times
if someones got an idea, dont blame em
my 2 eur trash
On 26 jun 2007, at 01.31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Big Beat circa 2007
MEK
Philip McGarva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 06/25/2007
06:27:12
PM:
phew, it's not just me then. someone gave me a CDR of the 2nd comp.
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