Re: (313) what's new with REAL Detroit releases?

2009-02-17 Thread darnistle
Matthew Kane wrote: On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 12:19, kent williams wrote: So if you're doing something, speak up! If you just bought a killer Detroit record, let me know. If you know of some crazy kids doing something interesting ... I just got a copy of the new Octave One album which I quit

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread ohanakin ...
Due, you missed my point. I wasnt saying the printing press killed all culture. it begat so much of it. i was making an analogy. i'm against mediocrity. With everyone and their mother getting in on djing, everyone and their mother cant be that good at it, that musical, or devoted. Between dem

Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Joel Gajewski
Sasha is a prime example of a boring dj becoming even more boring with Ableton.  - Original Message From: J.C. To: list 313 <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:08:38 AM Subject: Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire On 17 February 2009, kent williams wrote:

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread David Powers
This would be better discussed on the .microsound mailing list, but suffice it to say that without the printing press we probably wouldn't have Franz Kafka and Italo Calvino, not to mention the Age of Enlightenment and the American Revolution. I don't believe in "democracy" per se, but surely acce

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread Michael . Elliot-Knight
well, as with vinyl - Amazon's "Kindle" has nothing on printed and bound books the details and feeling of the binding, the quality of the paper, the smell of the book, the little joy in slowly turning the page, and the whole culture of bookstores, etc. all missed out by the digital book reader in

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Beddow
> now with the democratization of djing, everyone knows how to dj > supposedly the printing press was indeed an innovation, but the > quality of literary output is surely down in a world where literacy is > epidemic and books are published every day only to be thrown out the > next, where writ

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread ohanakin ...
My take on all this is theres no excuse for a serato dj not to have 20-30 recs on him just in case A dj can do damage for at least a good lil while with that number of records anyways, i still think vinyl always sounds better, unless youre carl craig and you use a radar hard recording sys

Re: (313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread Denise Dalphond
Andrew, that was awesome! > I think the important thing to remember is not process, but results. > So much of this turntables vs software talk has nothing to do with ears, > it is all eyes, to be honest. > At the Shake/Todd Osborn party in Detroit this past Friday, my friend (who is a DJ), said s

(313) DJing & the visual aspect (was Mills interview/Wire mag)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Duke
On 17 February 2009, kent williams wrote: I've seen loads of DJs play boring sets with no consideration for their audience, using good ol vinyl and turntables. To paraphrase the NRA, "Technology doesn't bore a crowd, DJs bore a crowd." Exactly! I think the important thing to remember is not p

Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Martin Dust
On 17 Feb 2009, at 15:55, kent williams wrote: As someone who has embraced Ableton Live as a DJ tool NO not again m

Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Zachary Smith
This is the kind of argument I hear from friends who don't like music made with computers/programmable synths/drum machines at all, much less replayed by computers. For them, there's no feeling or 'mistakes' unless it's played on manually-operated instruments like guitars, drums and Peruvian panfl

Re: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread kent williams
As someone who has embraced Ableton Live as a DJ tool I have two observations: 1) Removing beat matching from the equation means you don't make beat-matching mistakes. Plenty of other surprises and mistakes are possible. 2) a preprogrammed set doesn't interact with the audience. To the extent I su

RE: (313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Yeah, it's a bit of a read but well worth it, really, really interesting stuff he talks about. Funny to read that one of the dj's being on the forefront of technology speaks about the fact that all these technological developments (traktor, ableton and so on) will lead to the fact that dj's might

(313) re: Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Duke
Martijn de Blaauw wrote: Dunno if this was mentioned here already but the feb. issue of the wire has a very good and long interview with mr. Jeff Mills, u can read it online here: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/2035/ Thanks much for the heads-up on this, Martijn. Lengthy, in-depth article a

RE: (313)topic change:Mills interview in the Wire

2009-02-17 Thread Martijn de Blaauw
Dunno if this was mentioned here already but the feb. issue of the wire has a very good and long interview with mr. Jeff Mills, u can read it online here: http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/2035/ -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: m...@m50.net [mailto:m...@m50.net] Verzonden: maandag 16 febr