Mmm - very nice indeed.
Moments in Rhythm - Vol 1 on Aesthetic Audio
Main track seems to be Lost in Sound which start off like Pepe Bradock
and ends up like Basic Channel - really brilliant spaced out metallic
percussion over a deep as hell thudding Bass Drum then back into some
sweeping
Quoting Andrew Beddow andrew.bed...@gmail.com:
A bunch of KMS 'represses' have turned up in Juno over the past few
days, some rare (KMS 49), some not so rare (E Dancer - Pump The Move).
Anyone know if these are legitimate?
Andrew
Apparently they are 100% legit according to juno
lerato
Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail. Anyhow. . .
Interview with DJ Bone
Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and haterz.
http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html
mean I could easily wake up tomorrow and say, “You know
Hi folks
apologies for the spam . just thought that this might be of interest to some .
Süd Electronic - 9th Year birthday - 3rd October 2009
Berghain/Panorama/Ostgut Special With
Prosumer : (Panorama Bar , Ostgut Ton , Running Back , Playhouse )
Tama Sumo : ( Panorama Bar , Ostgut Ton )
Dj
would Juno admit if they weren't? they've sold plenty of bootlegs in
the past without saying they're boots
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM, lak...@sudelectronic.com wrote:
Quoting Andrew Beddow andrew.bed...@gmail.com:
A bunch of KMS 'represses' have turned up in Juno over the past few
days,
they're real, according to Hardwax (who I'd trust over Juno.)
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:40 AM, gavin morrissey gavinmorris...@gmail.com
wrote:
would Juno admit if they weren't? they've sold plenty of bootlegs in
the past without saying they're boots
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM,
where can you get these.. need an 049 badly
p
Andrew Beddow wrote:
they're real, according to Hardwax (who I'd trust over Juno.)
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:40 AM, gavin morrissey gavinmorris...@gmail.com
wrote:
would Juno admit if they weren't? they've sold plenty of bootlegs in
the past
just Juno for now in the UK, as far as I'm aware (they've already sold
out of 49, but imagine it will come back in stock soonish.) Hardwax
has them but they're not on the website yet.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Placidpla...@acid-house.net wrote:
where can you get these.. need an 049 badly
On 8 Sep 2009, at 08:43, Ravinder S Mann wrote:
Im having problems with my usual account so turning to Gmail.
Anyhow. . .
Interview with DJ Bone
Discussing American attitudes to techno, Detroit, Berlin, lovers and
haterz.
http://www.smartshanghai.com/blog/1353/Interview:_DJ_Bone.html
Plenty of DJs play there. Israel, Indonesia, Britain and the US too. ;)
Rob Taylor
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 10:20
To: Ravinder S Mann
Cc: list 313
Subject:
Right then I'm getting in!
Too bad about 049, but still a lot to go for.
Thanks Andrew.
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Beddow [mailto:andrew.bed...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:42 AM
To: gavin morrissey
Cc: lak...@sudelectronic.com; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject:
Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play there
nowadays.
Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from overseas because
of the repressive State regime? I don't see the logic of that.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor
When Surgeon played out there, it was largely to an ex-pat crowd, rather
than 'the people'
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-Original Message-
From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 11:14
To: Robert Taylor;
Its a tricky one. Bringing the music to a potentially huge market v.
playing insert oppressive state but I doubt he got paid loads or
paid any money to sponsor the said oppressive state. It might even
inspire listeners to chanllenge the status quo.
Ravinder.
2009/9/8 Martin Dust
Fair enough.
That still doesn't make it a bad thing, in my view.
And it's still a move toward liberalization rather than the other way round.
Ken
-Original Message-
From: Robert Taylor [mailto:rdtay...@channel4.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:16 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; Martin
On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can*
play there nowadays.
Why should the people be deprived of creative influences from
overseas because of the repressive State regime? I don't see the
logic of that.
As Rob
So when anyone visits China and goes to a DJ Bone or Surgeon gig, they're a
bourgeois expat milking the fcuk out of everyone.
Blimey!
-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 11:27 AM
To: Odeluga, Ken; list 313
Subject: Re:
On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:24, Ravinder S Mann wrote:
Its a tricky one. Bringing the music to a potentially huge market v.
playing insert oppressive state but I doubt he got paid loads or
paid any money to sponsor the said oppressive state. It might even
inspire listeners to chanllenge the status
@Ken
So when anyone visits China and goes to a DJ Bone or Surgeon gig,
they're a bourgeois expat milking the fcuk out of everyone.
I just find it hard to support a totalitarian theocracy Ken.
m
So do I Martin.
The crux of it is that we seem to believe in different ways and means
China is very much a secular state Martin!
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 12:21
To: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) Playing In China
I just find it hard
On 8 Sep 2009, at 12:28, Robert Taylor wrote:
China is very much a secular state Martin!
Go tell that to Tibet Rob!
But I think the statement of Totalitarianism is correct as China was
still a communist last time I checked.
m
State capitalist/social imperialist really ;)
This is way way OT now :)
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-Original Message-
From: Martin Dust [mailto:mar...@dustscience.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 12:36
To: Robert Taylor
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re:
i´ve since asked other people in record shops and they seem to be legit .
my source at juno is a close friend and would tell me straight up if
they were bootlegs . anyhow enjoy !!
would Juno admit if they weren't? they've sold plenty of bootlegs in
the past without saying they're boots
On
cool, I just know virtually every retailer stocks boots these days, so
its hard to be sure
cheers!
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM, lak...@sudelectronic.com wrote:
i´ve since asked other people in record shops and they seem to be legit .
my source at juno is a close friend and would tell me
noticed there's also a couple of Metroplex ones on juno too
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:31 PM, gavin morrisseygavinmorris...@gmail.com wrote:
cool, I just know virtually every retailer stocks boots these days, so
its hard to be sure
cheers!
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM,
To be fair: The film wasn't reviewd because the author of the post had not
seen the film at the time. He was basing all of his conclusions off of the
trailer that was out at the time... Im a big big fan of the ISM blog, and
I generaly steer clear of the minimal...But it's exactly this
general-ness
I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad as
China. By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all!
~David
Martin Dust wrote:
On 8 Sep 2009, at 11:13, Odeluga, Ken wrote:
Indeed, it's arguably progressive that a Detroit techno DJ *can* play
there nowadays.
Why should
Not quite as repressive - they don't tend to lock people up for speaking
their mind in the US and the UK - well, only a few
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-Original Message-
From: David Powers [mailto:cybo...@gmail.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009
It's hard to respond to your post when you seem to be replying to things
I never said.
I didn't claim to understand politics there and neither did I say that
real Chinese people wouldn't appreciate outside culture.
Maybe you're replying to the wrong person - it's hard to tell as you
haven't quoted
this echoes my sentiments also. Having issues with China's politics is one
thing, but the place is huger than Europe... who is to say what some fella
in Bejing would make of a dj with three turn tables who calls himself
Bone.
;-)
$0.02
China is a big country. In some places people are
On 8 Sep 2009, at 17:31, JT Stewart wrote:
Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in
generalities.
But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as
per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to
represent a larger point.
That was me JT, I
The man himself said he played to a mostly ex-pat crowd when he posted the set
he played in Shanghai to his site
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-Original Message-
From: JT Stewart [mailto:etmach...@gmail.com]
Sent: 08 September 2009 17:32
To:
there is also the issue of 'accepting elitist techno' into Chinese
territory too, no? I was surprised that he was even allowed to play at
all...
C
The man himself said he played to a mostly ex-pat crowd when he posted the
set he played in Shanghai to his site
Rob Taylor
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The UK may not as bad, but objectively, the US is the world leader in
repression as evidenced by the US incarceration rate. Note I'm not
arguing whether such is repression is right or wrong, nor am I
presenting causal factors; I am merely stating that we imprison more
people here than anywhere
Oh for f's sake. Replace you with we. I'm speaking in generalities.
But you did seem to insinuating that only ex-pats would come out, as
per your Surgeon example. Perhaps I read into that? It seemed to
represent a larger point.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Robert
On 8 Sep 2009, at 16:20, David Powers wrote:
I would argue that the USA and UK have regimes that are just as bad
as China.
And you'd be wrong but do you really believe that David?
By your logic DJ's shouldn't play at all!
Most shouldn't anyway ;)
m
I think techno is quite popular over there - didn't Technasia have a
radio show that broadcasted all over techno?
But I think the clubs are prohibitively expensive to all but the richest
people, much like in Russia.
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China is a big country. In some places people are persecuted for
things they are not elsewhere. It's a very complex country and as
everyone knows it's in the midst of a rapid transformation. Who are
you, as an uninformed foreigner, to presume you understand the
politics there...and to then make
I think it's accurate to say that if the Chinese government thought
techno music represented a threat to their continued control of China,
techno DJs would not be allowed in.
Personally, I work with a lot of Chinese people, and have friends
working in China, and as with the USA, it's important to
Depends what you mean by clubs. The swank high-roller set has one
type of club but there are scattered more underground things happening
from what I can tell, mostly hip hop and punk. Zachary Mexico is the
pen name of a writer and musician who wrote an interesting book last
year called Shanghai
http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/
Let the beatport hating begin ;-)
Any list like this is subjective, of course. But while Detroit is
represented on this list, it sure tilts towards the european idea of
what comprises techno. Not to put too fine a point
I think that is a capital idea. Since Beatport is riddled with
current and former 313 subscribers, I bet they'd put it on their blog.
A chance to educate all those kids with their
cracked copies of Traktor out there...
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Christiaan
Macdonaldchristi...@rushhour.nl
I think we can all agree that the inclusion of several Hawtin or at
least Hawtin related (lots of Probe on there!) tracks at the exclusion
of anything by any of the Belleville Three is laughable at best,
disgusting at worst. Though kudos to UR's inclusion on the list. My
top 20 to follow.
On
Strings of Life was bigger than many of those tracks combined, even in Europe.
--Original Message--
From: Frank Glazer
To: kent williams
Cc: list 313
Subject: Re: (313) beatportal 20 tracks every techno fan should know
Sent: Sep 8, 2009 10:37 PM
I think we can all agree that the
I think this is a fantastic idea. How could we handle voting/compiling?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:35 PM, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that is a capital idea. Since Beatport is riddled with
current and former 313 subscribers, I bet they'd put it on their blog.
A chance
While debatable, the list was better than I expected. 25% Detroit is
pretty good considering it's only one city in the world.
If I was doing the list I would put in No UFO's or Cosmic Cars and
something by Derrick May.
~DP
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed, No UFOs or at least Cybotron's Techno City should be on this. WTF.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:42 PM, David Powerscybo...@gmail.com wrote:
While debatable, the list was better than I expected. 25% Detroit is
pretty good considering it's only one city in the world.
If I was doing the list
The problem is Beatport doesn't have the latter and their download of the
former sounds like crap! I don't know why Juan gave them poor vinyl rips
when there's that Tresor double-CD comp.
J
Lori Draper wrote:
Agreed, No UFOs or at least Cybotron's Techno City should be on this. WTF.
On Tue,
You're exactly right Lori. I mean even if the idea was to list stuff
that isn't already widely known (and it appears to have been; do note
the exclusion of Jaguar, or Strings, or Bells, or Good Life) at least
pick SOMETHING by Juan, Kevin, or Derrick! JEESH.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Lori
I think the populace would be better served with a list of 20 tracks
you missed!
I'll cite an example to prove my point.
Jeff Mills - Kat Moda EP - everyone with a pulse would tell you that
the bells is best cut on this record. In fact it isn't. Skip over
the hit and drop Kat Race, as I've done
Jacob makes a very good point. Whatever list we come up with it's
useless unless they sell the mp3, isn't it?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:52 PM, Jacob Arnoldja...@gridface.com wrote:
The problem is Beatport doesn't have the latter and their download of the
former sounds like crap! I don't know
I think the Beatportal list reflects an idea of techno as strictly
having the 4 to the floor beat. A lot of the early tracks had more of
an Electro beat.
I have a friend in Seattle who was an old school raver, was (and is) a
good techno producer, and he'd didn't know Strings Of Life and
we do not claim to come even close with this list.
then why bother?
then again, it's not a top 20 list - as in the best examples of the field
just a list of tunes they think every techno fan should know
imo, I don't see, even with their explanation, why it's essential to know
Damon Wild's 2112
I've come across a few people who consider themselves techno producers who
don't like anything having to do with Detroit
(and, being good little ignorant idiots, they've played at afterhours
parties @ Movement)
MEK
kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote on 09/08/2009 01:55:09 PM:
I
Good point about Strings... Kent. To wit - the first time I heard
Jaguar I didn't know much about Rolando, didn't know it was his track,
and hastily labeled it progressive trance. Hahaha.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:55 PM, kent williamschaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the Beatportal list
As regards the dreaded 'Progressive' label -- any techno that is at
all melodic and builds, ends up getting picked up by the Progressive
DJs. The problem with Progressive DJs and producers is they don't
know where the line is -- while they'll drop some quality tracks,
they'll also drop incredibly
Ah found it! Long live archives, here are the results from
waayy back (damn twoplayer, almost forgot all about that):
-Original Message-
From: marsel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:00 PM
To: nort-tedra.net; 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: [313] all time 313
As much as i'd love to join the pisstaking, i have to remind you that
they're not talking about 20 detroit techno tracks every fan should know.
Apart from that, those lists are always purely subjective and will cause
mayhem
and havoc whenever and whereever they appear. Still think there are
On 8 sep 2009, at 20:11, kent williams wrote:
http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/20-tracks-every-techno-fan-should-know/
Let the beatport hating begin ;-)
Oh hating beatport, now come on Kent, give me a real challenge ;-) I
dont think my personal views on beatport will pass the 313
Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub
supergroup? musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble were
with them I'd be THERE, but as it stands I'm hesitating. But with so
many virtuousos I feel like I should maybe not miss it? Or is it
mere sonic
Custard Traxx by Neil
Landstrumm? It is my personal favorite, but I have met
no one else that likes it even remotely close to as much as
I do.
Some of the tracks there are really good, but the Jeff
Mills, Rob Hood, Sterac, Cari Lekebusch and Carl Craig's
selections are not their best.
So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he just presenting the
Method of Defiance group?
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:06 PM, Frank Glazercpe1704...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anybody seen this go round of Bill Laswell's ambient dub supergroup?
musichallofwilliamsburg.com/event/3176 If Jah Wobble
http://www.myspace.com/methodofdefiance
btw - sounds like drum n bass jazz sample freakout ambient dub
supergroup material.
Sounds pretty cool, and it's in Brooklyn.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:25 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.comkuszyn...@gmail.com wrote:
So is bill laswell one of the performers or is he
Looking to get a couple tracks IDed see my most recent blog entry for details
http://www.deejaycountzero.com/blog/?p=161
--
peace,
frank
dj mix archive: http://www.deejaycountzero.com
Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell:
http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx
- Greg
Throw gets two plays. Hahaha.
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Greg Earleea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote:
Oh yes ... I am liking this new one from Mr. Mitchell:
http://soundcloud.com/loshermanosdetroit/los-mixx
- Greg
--
peace,
frank
dj mix archive:
Rewind!!
I'd do that with Throw. Which reminds me, why wasn't -that-
on that must know Beatport list?
fh
-- mail forwarded, original message follows --
To: 313@hyperreal.org
From: cpe1704...@gmail.com Frank Glazer
Subject: Re: (313) Los Hermanos mix on SoundCloud
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009
Why even waste time wondering? There were a fair number of Huh? and WTF?
choices rendered. Some were artists worthy of attention, though the
choice of track was Huh? yet again. In a field as vast as techno, I
would refuse to narrow a list like that down to 20 choices, unless it
was a sort of
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